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An important historical letter by His Grace Ravindra Svarupa dasa ACBSP meant to protect ISKCON from outside influences.

An important historical letter by His Grace Ravindra Svarupa dasa ACBSP meant to protect ISKCON from outside influences.

16 July, 1998



By His Grace Ravindra Svarupa dasa ACBSP.

In 1990 I was persuaded by some who were then taking siksa from Narayana Maharaja to visit him. In the course of our discussion, the invocation of Sri Isopanisad somehow came up, and I rendered the meaning and purport the way it was presented by Srila Prabhupada,mentioning that this world (‘idam’), as an emanation from the ‘purnam’, is also ‘purnam’.

Narayana Maharaja immediately cut me off, and pronounced (in quite an ex cathedra manner) that I understood the text incorrectly. “No!” he said.

“The material world is not purnam.”‘Idam’ did not refer to this material world, which cannot be purnam. Rather, he said, ‘idam’ refers to Visnu-tattva expansions like Balarama. They are purnam.

I was a bit shocked. Here I was Prabhupada’s disciple, yet he was telling me Prabhupada was in error in his books.

Of course, I understood at once that Narayana Maharaja had to be ignorant of Prabhupada’s books. He had not been enlightened by Prabhupada’s brilliant account of just what it meant for this material world to be realized as a complete whole.

It seemed weird to give an interpretation that ignored the context of the invocation, and to ignore the fact that everywhere in the Upanisads and the Bhagavatam ‘idam‘ is conventionally used to stand for ‘this world’; and how strange it is to use a neuter singular pronoun to refer to Balarama and other expansions.

To give him the benefit of the doubt, I assume he had some authority for his gloss of the sruti mantra. At any rate, Prabhupada’s understanding is clearly far more profound.

I actually felt sorry for Narayana Maharaja that he had not received the benefit of Prabhupada’s teaching.

Although during our meeting Narayana Maharaja showed himself skillful at managing statusrelations, adroit in assuming the role of the teacher and putting me in the position of a pupil, he blew it (as far as I was concerned), and I decided to keep my distance. I had premonitions of trouble.

When, a few years later, it became known that Narayana Maharaja was claiming to be Prabhupada’s (first, senior-most) disciple, and even his designated successor and therefore our own authorized siksa guru, I remembered our 1990 meeting, and I could not accept this claim at all!

Didn’t Prabhupada emphasize the importance of his books for us?

Didn’t he tell us that association with him via his books was better than his personal association?

Now, how is a person who has never even bothered to read Prabhupada’s books to be considered his siksa disciple? How is he to represent Prabhupada to us?

I’ve been told that the claim Narayana Maharaja makes for himself has inflated over time. At first, he seemed to present himself simply as a friend, a benign siksa guru. By now, however, he has announced himself as the successor-acarya to Prabhupada, the authorized acarya of ISKCON.

And he tells the disciples of Prabhupada, “I know your guru better than you do!” And one-time followers of Prabhupada, like Yadurani dasi, proclaim the obvious conclusion: ”We can’t know Prabhupada unless we go through Narayana Maharaja!”

She says, “Only an uttama adhikari can understand an uttama adhikari,” which does makeone wonder how she is supposed to be able to understand Narayana Maharaja.

Two years ago, Lokanatha Swami brought ISKCON’s parikrama party to Kesavji Gaudiya Math in Mathura, where Narayana Maharaja addressed them.

It became quite emotional. He said that he used to “lie under the Tamal tree” and to “rest his head in the lap of Giriraja.” He said that even Lokanatha Swami used to be his friend. But all of them left him. They deserted him.

And then, when the parikrama party had left, Narayana Maharaja turned to his disciples and said,

“Not one of these is a true follower of Srila Prabhupada! I am the only true follower of Srila Prabhupada!”

Other witnesses have heard him voice the same idea still more recently: “I am the successor to Srila Prabhupada,” he says. Even: “I am ISKCON.”

I find it strange indeed that Prabhupada, who was so careful to explain things to us, revealed nothing of this occult plan for succession.

It seems he transmitted it, in private code, to Narayana Maharaja. For example, Narayana Maharaja explains that Prabhupada’s statement that Narayana Maharaja could show Prabhupada’s disciples how to put their spiritual master in his samadhi, has an esoteric meaning.

To us, it may have seemed that Prabhupada was speaking about funeral services, but it is revealed to Narayana Maharaja the deep meaning, that samadhi is Prabhupada’s eternal absorption and participation in Radha-Krishna lila, and so on. (Well, “only an uttama-adhikari can understand an uttama adhikari.”)

These so-called “instructions” are cited to establish Narayana Maharaja’s authority over us. In fact they will be persuasive only to those who have already accepted his authority, and so believe in the validity of his personal “realizations” about Prabhupada’s intentions.

On his authority you accept that this statement of Prabhupada (and maybe every statement?) bears an esoteric meaning in addition to an exoteric one, and you accept Narayana Maharaja as the authoritative interpreter of that esoteric meaning.

I fear we are being led down the primrose path of deviation. If we were to accept Narayana Maharaja’s claims, we would be disregarding Prabhupada’s explicit directions to us, and, in so doing, reenacting the error of the Gaudiya Matha in disobeying the orders of its founder-acarya.

While Prabhupada’s alleged directions to Narayana Maharaja are known only to him and depend upon our accepting his authority as an explicator of Prabhupada to us, Prabhupada’s instructions to us are clear and open and direct, and he has WARNED us of the folly of deviating from them:

Srila Prabhupada - "Why this Gaudiya Matha failed? Because they tried to become more than guru. He, before passing away, he gave all direction and never said that ‘This man should be the next acarya.’

But these people, just after his passing away they began to fight, who shall be acarya. That is the failure. They never thought, ‘Why Guru Maharaja gave us instruction so many things, why he did not say that this man should be acarya?’

They wanted to create artificially somebody acarya and everything failed. They did not consider even with common sense that if Guru Maharaja wanted to appoint somebody as acarya, why did he not say? He said so many things, and this point he missed? The real point? And they insist upon it. They declared some unfit person to become acarya.

Then another man came, then another, acarya, another acarya. So better remain a foolish person perpetually to be directed by Guru Maharaja. That is perfection. (Room conversation, Bombay: August 16, 1976)

As Prabhupada’s disciple, do you wonder what it would be like to stand before him and explain why you promoted Narayana Maharaja as ISKCON’s next acarya? And on whose authority?

Well, as it turns out on inspection, strictly on Narayana Maharaja’s. Because you blindly believe Narayana Maharaja when he proclaims, “I understand your Guru Maharaja better than you do.”

This is my doubt: That my God-brothers and sisters who are following Narayana Maharaja are doing so blindly, and they have been beguiled into accepting a pretender.

Narayana Maharaja as deviating from Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada radically reformed the Gaudiya Tradition, transforming it into a global preaching mission for the modern world. His work was not much appreciated by many, prominent among them the babajis of Vraja, who felt that he was deviating by his emphasis on vigorous preaching rather than the esoteric cultivation of raga-marga.

His disciples were constantly assailed by the charge that their Guru Maharajawas a deviant who could not offer them the “real thing.”

As you know, a number of them succumbed, most prominently the unauthorized “successor-acarya” Ananta Vasudeva dasa (later reinitiated in the babaji community as Puri Goswami).

A number of our own God-brothers also fell prey to the same attack, even while Prabhupada was present.

And the attack continues to this day. My doubt here is whether Narayana Maharaja has become an instrument of this attack against the mission of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura.

What he is now preaching and delivering clearly comes from outside the line of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura.

He did NOT get this from Bhakti Prajnan Kesava Maharaja, his diksa guru. Narayana Maharaja has acknowledged that there was no practice of raga marga in that matha, no “rasa-katha” but rather discourse about Prahlada Maharaja, Dhruva Maharaja, and so on.

Narayana Maharaja was apparently not satisfied with this, for, as he once confessed, he left his spiritual master’s temple without permission, and he went to Govardhana. In great distress, crying, Bhakti Prajnan Kesava Maharaja came and brought him back.

But later, after the departure of his Guru Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja returned to the babajis of Govardhana, and from among them he accepted a rasika guru, supposedly the one who “pushed the switch” which made the “current of bhava flow.”

It troubles me greatly that after his guru’s departure Narayana Maharaja did something his guru had forcibly prohibited in his presence.

This babaji, then, is Narayana Maharaja’s siksa guru — a personage, as you yourself argue, who often can be more prominent than the diksa guru. Whatever it is that Narayana Maharaja is giving comes from this babaji. This is his lineage.

It is clearly not the lineage from Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura. I don’t know anything about this babaji, but given the judgment about Radha-Kunda babaji by our recent acaryas, we have the obligation to be doubtful.

Don’t we have to ask a few questions about this babaji, and whoever else in that community Narayana Maharaja may have learned from? What did Narayana Maharaja actually get? Is it the real thing?

As you know, there is a shadow or simulacrum of authentic spiritual emotion that can fool even an experienced devotee.

At any rate, we know that Narayana Maharaja, against the order of his spiritual master, went to the babajis for spiritual instruction. (I am sure he can offer a clever rationalization for this. Indeed, it is surely the same one he provides Prabhupada’s disciples to justify our own disobedience of Prabhupada’s instructions in order to surrender to him. History repeats itself.)

My misgiving is that, in taking siksa from Vrindavan babajis, Narayana Maharaja is acting contrary to the desires of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasavati Thakura, and as a result is undermining the great acarya’s achievements.

There are some particulars that support this misgiving. Let me present one glaring instance.

Narayana Maharaja, of course, finds a great difference between preaching activities of the sankirtana movement on the one hand and activities of solitary bhajana on the other.

He dismisses book distribution as an inferior activity, as karma-yoga (at best). It is not actual bhakti, but bhaktyabhasa, bhaktyaropya.

On one occasion, when the accomplishments of a great ISKCON book distributor were extolled, Narayana Maharaja was quite dismissive, and he said that the result would be that in his next life the book distributor might qualify for advanced association (of a rasika bhakta), but that was all. LOL

Yet Srila Prabhupada, as you may still recall, did not recognize such a dichotomy between Gauranga’s seva and Gopijanavallabha’s seva, for, as he famously commented:

“Book distribution is in the mood of the gopis.”

Srila Prabhupada tells us that he attained this realization from his Guru Maharaja:

Srila Prabhupada - "In Vrndavana there are prakrta-sahajiyas who say that writing books or even touching books is taboo. For them, devotional service means being relieved from these activities.

Whenever they are asked to hear a recitation of Vedic literature, they refuse, saying, “What business do we have reading or hearing transcendental literatures? They are meant for neophytes.”

They pose themselves to be too elevated to exert energy for reading, writing and hearing. However, pure devotees under the guidance of Srila Rupa Gosvami reject this sahajiya philosophy.

It is certainly not good to write literature for money or reputation, but to write books and publish them for the enlightenment of the general populace is real service to the Lord. That was Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati’s opinion, and he specifically told his disciples to write books.

He actually preferred to publish books rather than establish temples. Temple construction is meant for the general populace and neophyte devotees, but the business of advanced and empowered devotees is to write books, publish them and distribute them widely.

According to Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, distributing literature is like playing on a great mrdanga.

Consequently we always request members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness to publish as many books as possible and distribute them widely through out the world.

By thus following in the footsteps of Srila Rupa Gosvami, one can become a rupanuga devotee".
(Madhya 19.132, purport)

This understanding of the unity of Lord Caitanya and Lord Krsna, and their seva — so fully realized and implemented by Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura to form his revolutionary, dynamic sankirtana movement—seems to have eluded Narayana Maharaja.

Why should service to the sankirtana mission of Lord Caitanya be seen by Narayana Maharaja as something quite different from service to Krishna in Vraja? How has that happened? Has some contamination entered?

In this connection, I am enclosing an exact (unedited) typescript of Prabhupada’s preface to the original edition of the second volume of Srimad Bhagavatam (1964). Here, Prabhupada replies to criticisms of his activity. These very same criticisms of “brhat-mrdanga preaching,” voiced by the sahajiya babajis of Vraja, are unfortunately being recycled by Narayana Maharaja.

Prabhupada begins by saying:

Srila Prabhupada  - "The path of fruitive activities i.e. to say the path of earn money and enjoy life as it is going on generally, — appears to have become also our profession although we have renounced the order of worldly life!

They see that we are moving in the cities, in the Government offices, banks and other business places for promoting the publication of Srimad Bhagwatam. They also see that we are moving in the press, paper market and amongst the book binders also away from our residence at Vrindaban and thus they conclude sometimes mistakenly that we are also doing the same business in the dress of a mendicant!"

And Srila Prabhupada winds up by voicing his heart-felt conviction:

Srila Prabhupada - "Even though we are not in the Himalayas, even though we talk of business, even though we deal in rupees and n.P. still, simply because we are 100 per cent servants of the Lord and are engaged in the service of broadcasting the message of His glories, — certainly we shall transcend and get through the invincible impasse of Maya and reach the effulgent kingdom of God to render Him face to face eternal service, in full bliss and knowledge.

We are confident of this factual position and we may also assure to our numerous readers that they will also achieve the same result simply by hearing the glories of the Lord. (Jannama sruti matrena puman bhavati nirmala.)

Narayana Maharaja explains Prabhupada’s high praise for book distribution and book distributors a mere tactic to encourage those of us without the samskara for raga-marga.Therefore it is worth noting that this preface was written about his own activities and some years before he had any neophytes to encourage.

To recapitulate: In differing from Srila Prabhupada’s teachings, Narayana Maharaja also differs from Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura’s teachings. As it turns out, Narayana Maharaja went outside the Sarasvata community to take instructions from babajis, and nowhere brings back into that community opinions that are characteristic of sahajiya babajis and that are anathema to Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada.

This misgiving leads me to a fuller explication of a related doubt.

Narayana Maharaja and certain sahajiya symptoms

Lord Caitanya says (CC. Madhya. 156-157):

bāhya, antara, — ihāra dui ta’ sādhana
‘bāhye’ sādhaka-dehe kare śravaṇa-kīrtana
‘mane’ nija-siddha-deha kariyā bhāvana
rātri-dine kare vraje kṛṣṇera sevana

“There are two processes by which one may execute this raganuga bhakti– external and internal. When self-realized, the advanced devotee externally remains like a neophyte and executes all the Sastric injunctions, especially hearing and chanting. However, within his mind, in his original purified self-realized position, he serves Krsna in Vrndavana in his particular way. He serves Krsna twenty-four hours, all day and night.”

And Rupa Gosvami says in Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu (1.2.295)

seva sadhaka-rupena siddha-rupena catra hi
tad-bhava-lipsuna karya vraja-lokanusaratah

“The advanced devotee who is inclined to spontaneous loving service should follow the activities of a particular associate of Krsna in Vrndavana. He should execute service externally as a regulative devotee as well as internally from his self-realized position. Thus he should perform devotional service both externally and internally.”

I understand that it is characteristic of the sahajiya to transgress this injunction to keep the activities of the siddha-deha and the sadhaka-deha separate. The sahajiya is known for displaying in his mundane body and relationships actions that belong only to the spiritual body and its relationships.

There are several habitual actions of Narayana Maharaja that give the appearance of such an improper conflation.

The first I may call as witness is his well-known disposition to crookedness. He is extremely cavalier with the truth. For instance, he often lies outright about what transpired when he visits some ISKCON temple. (His claim that he was “locked out” of the Houston temple is a notable example.)

Even some of his own followers have found his disposition to dissimulate hard to reconcile themselves to. However, they have been told that it is a symptom of his transcendental position, and they have acquiesced to it.

Narayana Maharaja himself justifies his behavior on these grounds: “Unless you learn to be crooked, you cannot qualify for Vrindavan.” He points out that the Yamuna is crooked, that Krishna’s staff is crooked, and so on.

In effect, he has announced to his own followers that he is free to deceive them, and that they should, as part of their surrender, agree to be deceived. In this matter, Narayana Maharaja reminds me greatly of Kirtanananda, who used to do something similar.

If you found that he has lied to you or cheated you, and you call him on it, he would preach that dishonesty in Krishna service was a virtue, and ask, after all, for Whom were you cheated?

If you were persuaded by this, he felt free to cheat you again and again.

During Kartika in 1997, Narayana Maharaja was holding a darsana in which a number of disciples of Gaura Govinda Maharaja were present. He announced that last night Gaura Govinda Maharaja had appeared to him in a dream, and after speaking some words (I can’t recall the matter of it), Gaura Govinda Maharaja merged into Narayana Maharaja’s body.

Is this a true dream? Or, in the mood of crookedness, is it the opportunistic psychological manipulation of susceptible people.

Yet if he has a (transcendental) license to be crooked, why should we take as truthful all those accounts of his deep relation with Prabhupada, his reported dreams of Prabhupada, and even his effusive public glorification of Srila Prabhupada?

There was a time when Narayana Maharaja criticized Prabhupada in public. He pointed out ”mistakes” in his books and “mistakes” in naming of certain Deities.

Now, however, he claims that he never said these were Prabhupada’s mistakes but those of his followers, and he never criticized Prabhupada.

This is not true.

The truth (if it matters) is that in private Narayana Maharaja still belittles or criticizes Prabhupada, while praising him in public: a crooked course. And of course, if the private is made public he simply denies it happened.

In Srimad Bhagavatam we have read that in Kali-yuga truthfulness is the last leg of dharma; it now seems that Narayana Maharaja is intent on establishing crookedness as the last leg of dharma.

In fact, truthfulness is required always of the sadhaka, and to supplant it with the”crookedness” of the siddha is a perfect illustration of sahajiya contamination.

The other area in which Narayana Maharaja seems to conflate the mundane and the transcendent realms is in his relationship with women. Here he outrageously transgresses the behavior proper to a sannyasi.

Many have witnessed the ritual in which a group of dreamy-eyed women massage his feet. Narayana Maharaja’s spokesmen deny this, but we can dismiss their denial.

Like him, they are acolytes of the higher crookedness, and there is ample testimony from those still bound by mundane honesty. One well-brought-up European lady reports encountering Narayana Maharaja during his tour of the Continent.

Women sat at his feet, stroking and massaging his lower limbs. One lady was languorously caressing the soles of his feet with her fingertips.The observer found this tableau charged with eroticism. Beckoned to join the group, she could not bring herself to do it. Instinctively, she felt repelled.

He also forms relationships with women by unabashedly using the language of carnal courtship and seduction. “Now you belong completely to me,” he will tell one girl. Or: “Now your heart is mine forever,” “I have captured you and will keep you.” And so on.

Given the above public actions, the following, less public, conduct needs, I think,investigation. I have it on reliable authority that in addition to his personal servant Naveen, Narayana Maharaja is attended in Mathura by two “kumaris” — two unmarried girls in their twenties. He often spends time alone with them, behind closed doors.

You may remember when certain acaryas in ISKCON indulged in similarly questionable behavior, and yet misgivings and criticisms became suppressed or repressed by the notion that the “acaryas” were advanced beyond the regulative principles.

Although deluded followers had been convinced by this teaching, the truth at last came out. Could this be happening again?

In my time, I have seen how many remained convinced that, say, Kirtanananda Swami, was an uttama-adhikari (whose acts were beyond judgment of the lower), and how otherwise quite intelligent men swore he was pure and fair and bright. You ignore the warnings of Srila Prabhupada and of Rupa Goswami at your peril.

Indeed, it seems to me that something eerie has happened to the intelligence of those disciples of Prabhupada who have become followers of Narayana Maharaja.

There is a mystery about this that needs solving. How it is that many disciples of Prabhupada have been able to so thoroughly neglect Prabhupada’s instructions with an apparently good conscience?

For example, they hear Narayana Maharaja say—within the smaller circle—that he has no taste for Bhagavad-gita, no attraction for Puri or Dvaraka, no interest in Rama or Narasingha.

What has happened to them, that their memory has become corrupted, so that they can’t recall Prabhupada’s unequivocal judgment about those who make such statements?

To cite one example:

Srila Prabhupada - "Therefore those who are sahajiyas, they simply go to the pastimes of Lord Krsna with the gopis. Other things: “Oh, no, no. That is not Krsna’s pastimes. That is not Krsna’s pastimes.” That is, they differentiate the absolute activities of the Absolute. That is called sahajiya.

The sahajiyas will never read Bhagavad-gita, will never read. [Sarcastically:] Because they have been elevated to the mellows of conjugal love. Therefore they have no interest in Bhagavad-gita. (Lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.3.20-23; Gorakhpur, February 14, 1971)

What influence does Narayana Maharaja exercise to make us disobey Srila Prabhupada? We can begin to understand it, I think, by looking at the reason Satsvarupa Maharaja stopped hearing from Narayana Maharaja.

He was the first of ISKCON leaders to reject Narayana Maharaja as a teacher. When a crisis arose concerning the others who continued under his tutelage, I asked Satsvarupa Maharaja what made him decide to quit.

He told me, “I discovered that I was reading Srila Prabhupada through the eyes of Narayana Maharaja. And I decided I had better take my Srila Prabhupada straight.”

To be sure, Narayana Maharaja has his own interpretation of why Satsvarupa Goswami left. He took it that Satsvarupa Maharaja was afraid of losing his disciples to Narayana Maharaja;out of fear and possessiveness, Satsvarupa Goswami stopped associating with Narayana Maharaja and forbade his disciples from doing so.

Now, I accept Satsvarupa Maharaja’s account. He is by nature transparently honest — even, some say, to a fault. His own account is characteristically direct, simple and guileless.

Narayana Maharaja’s interpretation inadvertently reveals much about Narayana Maharaja’s mentality (it is offensive), but nothing of Satsvarupa Maharaja’s.

Satsvarupa Maharaja noticed how some subtle and powerful change was happening in his hearing of Prabhupada, and Prabhupada was now coming to him in a distorted or crooked manner. He was hearing Prabhupada differently, and this gave him such qualms that he took remedial measures.

Such a change indicates the level on which Narayana Maharaja was able to act. What Narayana Maharaja is able to do is to corrupt one’s buddhi, intelligence. As devotees, our intelligence has been formed through our assimilation of Srila Prabhupada.

To keep our intelligence chaste (vyavasayatmika-buddhi), Prabhupada left us his instructions and directions, particularly in his books.

Repeatedly, he stressed that “the secret of success in spiritual life is to take the order of the spiritual master as one’s life and soul.”

It is clear enough that that Narayana Maharaja differs greatly from Srila Prabhupada, but the deviation is explained away by claiming that Prabhupada was, in effect, a lower-level guru (a teacher of vaidhi-bhakti only) while Narayana Maharaja is a higher-level guru (a giver of raga-marga).

In essence, then, those who follow him may set aside significant parts of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings and directions as a kind of outgrown elementary instruction. In effect, Narayana Maharaja gives them the way to (respectfully) disregard Srila Prabhupada’s teachings without suffering the pang of conscience.

Although Prabhupada sought to keep us from being misguided by stressing, over and over,the virtue of strict fidelity to the instruction of the guru, Narayana Maharaja has circumvented this safeguard by sabotaging the denotation of “guru.”

While all of us thought that “fidelity to the guru” meant simply “fidelity to Prabhupada,” Narayana Maharaja has enabled some to now understand it as “fidelity to Narayana Maharaja.” This is an instance of “corruption of intelligence.”

How has Narayana Maharaja been so effective in thus replacing Srila Prabhupada with himself? A large part of it rest upon his ability to convince some of us that he was Prabhupada’s first and most intimate disciple, that Prabhupada handed us over to him, that he knows Prabhupada better than we do, and so on.

Yet all these claims turn out to have no evidentiary basis. They are accepted simply on Narayana Maharaja’s authority. Having been accepted, they are then used to establish his authority.

To me, this is smacks of blind or sentimental following. I am afraid you have been fooled.

I have given further reasons for doubting Narayana Maharaja’s claims to be Prabhupada’s follower or designated successor and an advanced Vaisnava. He acts in an envious manner to Vaisnavas and seems to be driven by a competitive spirit of domination.

He is unacquainted with Prabhupada’s teachings and he differs from them in many ways. He has gone outside the line of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura for instruction, and he does not follow the directions given by Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura.

He receives teachings on his “raga-marga” from babajis, and gives evidence having absorbed, in the process, sahajiya contamination.

All these things make me seriously doubt his claim to be an advanced rasika Vaisnava and successor to Srila Prabhupada. Instead he seems to be some kind of talented pretender or imposter, who has seduced, beguiled and misled many people.

Before we accept someone as a guru, we should examine that person with critical intelligence. I have done so, and I cannot accept Narayana Maharaja.

From what I have seen, most of my God-brothers and -sisters choosing to follow Narayana Maharaja have not used their intelligence in this matter. Instead, they have surrendered their intelligence and let it become corrupted. They have accepted Narayana Maharaja improperly.

For a start, you might read Prabhupada’s Cc. Madhya-lila 19.159 and purport.

There different kinds of unsaintly behavior (nisiddha-acara) are described, such as kuTinaTi (duplicity), jiva-himsana (killing the soul), labha (desire for profit), puja (desire for adoration)and pratisTha (desire for distinction)

These are all weeds that kill the true creeper of bhakti. I have claimed to find some of these weeds quite evident in the person of Narayana Maharaja. If I am right,then you may ask, why do so many apparently intelligent, well-intentioned, and perceptive people follow him?

There is an answer in that purport. “Sometimes these unwanted creepers look exactly like the bhakti-lata creeper.

They appear to be of the same size and the same species when they are packed together with the bhakti-lata creeper, but in spite of this, the creepers are calledupa Sakha [unwanted].

A pure devotee can distinguish between the bhakti-lata creeper and amundane creeper, and he is very alert to distinguish them and keep them separate.”

There is a counterfeit creeper that can fool even otherwise discerning people. I fear that just such a counterfeit is present in this case. I have taken some pains to try to tell you why.

Please consider what I have presented. It is not too late to return to the service of Srila Prabhupada, who saved you and who will save you still.

I hope you are well,

Your servant in the service of Srila Prabhupada,
Ravindra Svarupa dasa ACBSP.
7th Aug 1998











Friday, March 22, 2019

Srila Prabhupada comments on his own possible past life as a sinless doctor.

If it is true that Srila Prabhupada said he came directly from Goloka (nothing like that is mentioned by Prabhupada on Vaniquotes), then Srila Prabhupada has said both, including he had a previous birth in this material world.

So why just except he came directly from Goloka when he also suggested he had a past life time in this material world?

There is even a book, called Bhṛgu-saṁhitā, which reveals information about one's past, present and future lives according to astrological calculations.

Srila Prabhupada comments on his own possible past life.

Srila Prabhupada - "So far I am concerned, I cannot say what I was in my previous life, but one great astrologer calculated that I was previously a physician and my life was sinless." (Letter to Tamala Krsna - Los Angeles 21 June, 1970)

Lecture on SB 2.9.1 -- Tokyo, April 20, 1972:

Srila Prabhupāda - "From Bhṛgu-saṁhitā it was ascertained that I was a big physician in my last life, very spotless character, no sins, like that.

So it may be. But actually I have no remembrance that I was a physician. So what do we know? I might have been a very big physician, influential physician, having a good practice, but where is all...? All gone.

So this situation, our contact with matter, is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

As soon as we understand that, "I have nothing to do with. I am simply Kṛṣṇa's servant. Eternal servant. That's all," immediately he becomes liberated.

Exactly like that: as soon as you... Sometimes we do that. When the fearful dreaming becomes too much intolerable, we break the dream. We break the dream when it becomes intolerable.

Similarly, we can break this material connection at any moment as soon as we come to the point of Kṛṣṇa conscious.

"Oh, Kṛṣṇa is my eternal master. I am His servant." That's all. This is the way.

Actually we are not fallen. There cannot be any fallen. The same example: Actually there is no tiger; it is dreaming. Similarly, our fallen condition is also dreaming. We are not fallen.

We can simply give up that illusory condition at any moment. At any moment.

So if you study all these verses very nicely, you get all this knowledge quickly". Lecture on SB 2.9.1 -- Tokyo, April 20, 1972.

As explained above, Prabhupada does mention a possible past life recorded on Vaniquotes.

However, this idea that He specially came from Goloka to write Books has no reference in Vaniquotes.

This means we are not getting direct information like the recorded lecture given above.

Therefore the discussion with Upendra and Bhavananda is just heresy, not saying it's not true, but are saying there is no clear recorded reference to prove it.

This means someone sentimentally could add their speculation to it as well.

As Srila Prabhupada suggested himself, he also could of come from a previous life in this material world to write Books directed by his Spiritual Master and Lord Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.













Thursday, March 21, 2019

And who knows what each of us have done over millions of life times? Each soul (jivatma) is beginningless and will never cease to be.

And who knows what each of us have done over millions of life times?


We must never forget, as devotees, the reason for a sinful human being's server hash punished.

All punishment by material nature is for the purpose of rehabilitation so that the soul within the decaying material body is again rewarded the opportunity and take birth in a material human body so that they can again attempt to realize their "original perpetual position" as the servant of the servant of Lord Krishna.

Lord Krishna Chaitanya is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, His universal material creation is set up to rehabilitate the fallen souls who enter this material creation and NOT annihilate them which is not possible anyway.

As the Bhagavad Gita tells us, the jiva soul is beginningless and endless and CANNOT be destroyed when the gross material bodily vessel is destroyed, no matter WHAT sinful horrible acts one has performed as a human being!!

Karma good and bad pious or impious is only created by human beings in the middle planetary system out of the 14 different ones.

Karma is also NEVER created on the higher material heavenly planets or on the lower hellish planets.

Nor is karma created in the lower species of life that is dominated by instincts not Karma.

Of course impious karma put them in this condition of lower life forms in the first place but the progress of getting out  of the lower species is evolving from a lower species to to the next one on the ladder.

This takes millions of years until again it leads to the soul again takes birth as a human being.

1 - Coming via the monkey is the mode of ignorance.
2 - Coming through a Lion or Tiger is the mode of passion.
3 - Coming through a Cow or Bull is the mode of Goodness

In all three conditions below, karma is NOT created -

1 - Heavenly planets.
2 - Hellish planets.
3 - Lower species of life.

 This means all "good and bad" actions (Karma) are only possible while in a human body on Bhuloka the middle planetary system.

All karma goes on until what has been accumulated is exhausted then from the heavenly, hellish and lower species, one again takes birth in the middle planetary system and "again" given a human form where they are again responsible for their good and bad actions.

Only the human species in the Bhurloka Planetary System it karma created.

In this way, everyone, even Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, Bundy, Dharma, EVERYONE gets unlimited chances.

This is because there is no such thing as "ETERNAL DAMNATION" in Vedic teachings. Karma is NOT eternal, eventually even the most opulant and hellish karma comes to an end.

The fact is, all of us in previous lives have done horrible nasty unspeakable things, otherwise how else have we ended up in this degrading age of Kali-yuga of hypocrisy, quarrel?

Kali-yuga is the most degraded Godless age where man is trying to build the Kingdom of God WITHOUT God.

Kali-yuga is also an age where man believes the material body they are in, is them, they deny the existence of the soul (jivatma) or individual life force that moves from material bodily container to another material body when the material body expires (dies)

Srila Prabhupada once said "demons" in Satya yuga take birth in Kali-yuga as sinful lusty meat eaters who foolishly think they are the material body they are getting around in" (Conversation with devotees in room Febuary 1973 Sydney Australia)

Only in the human form can the jivatma or soul try again to find a path way to ventuall finnish up all material activity.

THE STAGE IN ENDLESS

But some punishments CAN seem like an almost eternity, so be careful!!

Stop being sinful by exploiting and using others.

There is no such thing as a permanent hell, NOTHING is forever in the material creation.

The fallen jiva HAS to pay dearly for their sins of abuse, exploitation, arrogent pride and patronizing others.

The nonsense Christian concept of "Eternal Damnation" is total fantasy to a devotee of Krishna,
everyone gets UNLIMITED CHANCES "once" their sins are paid for.

Any God who teaches "Eternal Damnation" is a cruel uncaring nonsene God.

The endeavour of seeking perfection will always continue no matter what one has done.

This endevour of seeking perfection may take a long, long time as Gita tells us, taking many, many births before one AGAIN becomes sinless, a pure devotee of Krishna and reaching their ORIGINAL possition from where they fell from.

So in this life, if one takes genuinely to Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement, then even the biggest SINNER WILL be saved!! 🎩


Compiled by Gauragopala dasa Acbsp

Are you trying to figure out what's going on in this material universe?

Trying to figure out what's going on?

Ultimately we are eternal servants of Krishna Lord the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

What does the implicationcation of foolishly coming to this mundane material creation and accepting different material counterfeit identities mean?

A old yogi at Rishikesh told me that we have all been here for so, so long that we, long long ago, in another time and place, like now, also occupied the many material bodies around us over an enormous amount of time

This is because time and space is not fixed and flowing in one forward direction.

Time and space flows in all directions and dimensions.

Like the lotus flower Brahma sits on, each petal represents it own movement of time.

Ultimately this means past, present and future all exist at the same time.


This further means at death of the gross material vessel, the subtle body carrying the soul does not only move forward, one can take birth back in 1938 or 1974 or anytime in the future.

Time does NOT flow in one direction just forward, no it flows in ALL directions past, present and future in different dimensions simultaneously.

The implications relate to the material body ONLY, not the individual soul.

We are all individual spiritual beings originally Krishna Conscious servants of the Lord.

This only relates to the outward "material bodies" which are the projected material mundane dreams of the individual soul (jivatma) when ignoring Krishna

And we are given all material facilities while in the material creation by Maha Vishnu as He sleeps and dreams the entire material creation made up with billions of Brahmanda universes all coming from Maha Vishnu's Body.

We therefore simply get all material bodies and fascilities from Maha Vishnu.

The spiritual person or jivatma is ALWAYS an individual  however, the material energy is what is really all one.

And yes, with the right qualifications and being trained up by material nature for many births to acquire the ksrma, you can experience of material life of ANY of those material bodies throughout history.

Scary because that means Stalin, Hitler and the Walrus.

This is how the impersonal material energy works, it is all moved by the desires of the individual jivatma trapped in this bizarre material creation and it's unlimited material bodily containers  it offers.

Think about it.








Wednesday, March 20, 2019

The history of Lord Chaitanya and the Renaissance of Devotion.

Lord Chaitanya and the Renaissance of Devotion

By His Grace Ravindra-svarupa dasa ACBSP.

While Europe, as if weary of its medieval concepts of God, turned with new interest toward man and the mundane, a spiritual revolution in India—destined to spread worldwide—was revealing the dynamic nature of the Absolute Truth.

Europe in the fifteenth century was undergoing that awesome social and cultural transformation that the historian Jules Michelet, looking back in reverence, named the Renaissance, the “rebirth.”

That long medieval period, with its vision so entranced by splendid images of the eternal that it could hardly spare a glance for this fleeting world, with its mind so obsessed by last things—Death, Judgment, Heaven and Hell—that it endured this life only as a hard trial and preparation, with its social body constructed of rigid hierarchies and maintained by a plodding economy—all that was finished.

Like a man awakening from sleep and shaking fuzzy images of dreams from his head, Europe came alive to the senses and beheld as if for the first time the whole vast world that lay so enchantingly before it, rich with mysterious promise, beckoning with limitless possibilities.

Pico della Mirandola composed an Oration on the Dignity of Man. Still depicting pious subjects, Michelangelo carved in rock the grace and strength of a perfectly proportioned, smoothly muscled David and shaped a hymn in glorification of the male body, while everywhere painters adorned walls with the supple limbs and lustrous complexions of ripely rounded, exquisitely charming Madonnas.

Bold navigators turned their prows into uncharted seas and found new worlds for exploration and exploitation.

In the grip of a relentless fascination, Leonardo da Vinci limned in notebooks painstaking studies that delved into the intricacies of human anatomy and the mechanics of birds in flight.

Based on a new, man-made kind of wealth, a new, self-made aristocracy arose—“merchant princes” who created far-flung empires of trade, banking, and manufacture. And so it happened that in a great shift of human vision from God to man and matter, the modern world was born.

India in the fifteenth century was also undergoing a renaissance—of a quite different sort. It was indeed almost the opposite of the European one; scholars have called it the “bhakti renaissance,” a great rebirth of devotion to God. The preeminent figure of this powerful religious upsurge was Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.


When modern researchers explain historical changes, they, of course, consider only mundane causes—social, political, economic, and other such factors. However, I want to explore here another kind of cause: the divine. The Bhagavad-gita explains briefly how and why God periodically intervenes in human history:

“Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice,” Krishna declares, “and a predominant rise of irreligion—at that time I manifest Myself. To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of religion, I Myself appear, millennium after millennium” (Bg. 4.7-8).

As an introductory text, the Bhagavad-gita succinctly presents general principles. More advanced texts, like the Srimad-Bhagavatam, furnish further information. Drawing on such works, Srila Prabhupada comments on the statement of the Bhagavad-gita:

“It is not a fact that the Lord appears only on Indian soil. He can manifest Himself anywhere and everywhere, and whenever He desires to appear. In each and every incarnation, He speaks as much about religion as can be understood by the particular people under their particular circumstances.

But the mission is the same—to lead people to God consciousness and obedience to the principles of religion. Sometimes He descends personally, and sometimes He sends His bona fide representative in the form of His son, or servant, or Himself in some disguised form.”

Why should God have to appear over and over again? After all, if God is perfect, shouldn’t He be able to establish religion perfectly? Shouldn’t once suffice for all?

It is, however, the nature of the material world that all things decay in time, and while God is infallible, the human beings who receive and transmit God’s instructions are fallible.

Consequently, the religious traditions God establishes become compromised and undermined by a worldly spirit, and so in time they disintegrate.

When religion thus declines, and irreligion consequently rises, God descends to rectify the imbalance and restore the principles of righteousness. God’s periodic intervention is crucial. Krishna notes in the Bhagavad-gita that if He did not act in this way, “all these worlds would be put to ruination” (Bg. 3.24),

The Renaissance in Europe offers a clear instance of the decline of religion. Fifteen hundred years earlier, Jesus Christ, the son of God, had appeared in a remote corner of the Roman Empire and had taught, as far as possible, the principles of religion.

His followers, adopting and transforming the philosophical heritage of the Greeks and the practical and material legacy of the Romans, had eventually created in Europe a God-centered civilization. But the Renaissance, as a great movement of secularization, signaled the destruction of that civilization.

Priestly worldliness and corruption had vitiated the spiritual power of the Church (as anyone familiar with the history of the Renaissance popes can attest).

Although Martin Luther and other reformers attempted to restore the purity of Christianity, they unintentionally provided the means for European rulers to break loose from religious control. Thus the Reformation greatly contributed to the dismantling of the medieval God-centered civilization.

If Europe during the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries illustrates the sort of religious decline described in the Bhagavad-gita, India in the same period illustrates the divine restoration.

The transcendental agent in this case was Sri Caitanya, who appeared in what is now West Bengal in 1486, just four years after Luther’s birth in Germany.


A person should be accepted as an incarnation of God only if He is referred to in scriptures. Many scriptures foretell the advent of Lord Caitanya. The Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.5.32) says:

“In the age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the name of Krishna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krishna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, His servants, His weapons, and His confidential companions.”

This verse identifies Lord Caitanya as a special kind of incarnation called a “yuga-avatara.” Vedic literature describes history as cyclical, progressing through repeated revolutions of four great ages called yugas.

The first age of the cycle, satya- yuga, is a golden age of immense spiritual and material well-being; each subsequent age ushers in a decline.

We are now five thousand years into Kali-yuga, the final and most debased age. “In this iron age of Kali,” the Bhagavatam says, “men have but short lives. They are quarrelsome, lazy, misguided, unlucky, and, above all, always disturbed” (Bhag. 1.1.10).

Religious practice has to be tailored to fit the particular characteristics of each of the yugas. The meditational practices suitable for Satya-yuga, for example, will be ineffective in the Kali-yuga.

People no longer have the time, the determination, and the peace of mind to meditate properly. The Lord therefore descends in each yuga—as the yuga-avatara—in order to establish the appropriate form of religion.

According to the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Lord Caitanya is the yuga-avatara for this age of Kali.



The Bhagavatam also notes the specific religious practice Lord Caitanya will propagate: sankirtana, the congregational chanting of the name of God. Sankirtana is especially suitable for Kali-yuga, because it is both easy to do and extremely powerful.

In this age we are in such a morbid condition of soul that only the strongest of remedies can heal us. And we will refuse the medicine unless it is sweet and easy to take. Therefore, Lord Caitanya disseminated the holy name.

No matter how quarrelsome, lazy, misguided, unlucky, and disturbed we may be, we can easily chant Hare Krishna with perceptible spiritual results. We will at once have a taste of transcendental bliss and feel lust, greed, and anger diminish. The immeasurable potency of the divine name will rid even the most polluted mind of the putrefaction of material existence.

Lord Caitanya possessed such immense spiritual power that waves of devotion spread out from Him and inundated all of India with love of God. His life and teachings have been expertly recounted by Krishnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami in Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, universally recognized as a classic of Bengali literature. We can get some idea of Lord Caitanya’s potency from this description of the Lord’s impact on people during His tour of South India:

Whenever Lord Caitanya met anyone, Krishnadasa Kaviraja says, He would ask them to chant Hare Krishna. “Whoever heard Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu chant ‘Hari, Hari,’ also chanted the holy name of Lord Hari and Krishna.

In this way, they all followed the Lord, very eager to see Him. After some time, the Lord would embrace these people and bid them to return home, after investing them with spiritual potency. Being thus empowered, they would return to their own villages, always chanting the holy name of Krishna and sometimes laughing, crying, and dancing.

These empowered people used to request everyone and anyone—whomever they saw—to chant the holy name of Krishna. In this way all the villagers would also become devotees of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. And simply by seeing such empowered individuals, people from different villages would become like them by the mercy of their glance.

When these individuals returned to their villages, they also converted others into devotees. When others came to see them, they were also converted. In this way, as those men went from one village to another, all the people of South India became devotees. Thus many hundreds of people became Vaishnavas [devotees of Krishna] when they passed the Lord on the way and were embraced by Him” (Cc. Madhya 7.98-105).

A unique feature of Krishna’s appearing as Lord Caitanya is that although Lord Caitanya is Krishna Himself, He does not appear as God but rather as a devotee of God. There are two reasons why God assumes the role of His own devotee, one of them external and public, the other internal and private.

The public reason God comes as a devotee is to teach the chanting of the names of God in the most attractive and powerful way. By playing the part of His own devotee—the greatest devotee of all—Krishna is able to show by His own peerless example the splendor of pure devotional service. Since Lord Caitanya is God Himself revealing to us how He wishes to be served, the teachings of Lord Caitanya are most authorized.


God’s private reason for descending as Lord Caitanya is more difficult to grasp, and to understand it we will have to enter into some of God’s confidential, internal affairs. Indeed, it is principally through Lord Caitanya that these matters have become known to us at all. (They are, to be sure. described in ancient scriptures, but Lord Caitanya illuminated the meaning of those texts and made their importance shine forth.)

Krishna’s appearance as Lord Caitanya is really Krishna’s own tribute and testament to the overwhelming attractiveness of pure devotional service and, especially, of His pure devotee. Moreover, when Krishna assumes the features of His own greatest devotee, He has, in fact, a particular devotee in mind: His highest and most intimate devotee. Srimati Radharani.

You may have seen paintings that depict Radha and Krishna together; Lord Krishna appears as a beautiful young man with a dark-blue complexion that glows like a newly formed rain cloud illuminated within by lightning.

Srimati Radharani is an equally beautiful young girl; Her complexion is lustrous like molten gold. Krishna plays on His flute, and Radharani, Her hand resting lightly on Krishna’s shoulder, listens in enchantment. It is clear from Their posture and from the way They glance at each other that They are deeply in love.

Westerners often misunderstand Radha and Krishna. An earlier, puritanical generation was appalled at the notion that God should have a consort and enter into a conjugal relationship.

Nowadays, one encounters people from a younger generation who are very much “into” sex and are delighted to think that God is too. Both groups radically misunderstand Radha and Krishna, because both share in a common error: that the relationship between Radharani and Krishna is like a mundane sexual relationship.

Male and female and the attraction between them are found in this world only because sexual polarity and attraction exist originally in God, in Radha-Krishna. As above, so here below. But there is a difference also. Worldly sexual relationships are merely perverted reflections of the original and transcendental conjugal relationship between Radha and Krishna, which is pure and spiritual and devoid of any tinge of lust.

As long as Our materially besmirched minds are conditioned by worldly desire, we are unable to conceive of the immaculate love between Radha and Krishna. We project our own unwholesome relationships and unholy loves onto God.

This is surely a mistake. A person can understand the conjugal love of Radha and Krishna as it is only if he himself becomes free from lust. Lord Caitanya was able to make an unprecedented disclosure of the confidential relationship between Radharani and Krishna because He also taught the chanting of Hare Krishna, which destroys lust and other material impurities with unrivaled efficacy.

We can understand the position of Srimati Radharani by means of the ideas of “potency” (shakti) and the “potent” (shaktiman), that is, of power or energy, on the one hand, and of the possessor of the power, the energetic source, on the other.

To use an illustration, fire is the potent, and heat and light are the fire’s potency. But the supremely potent, the ultimate source of all energies, is Krishna; everything else, material or spiritual, is His potency, emanating from Him as heat and light emanate from a fire. (Heat and light are potency in relation to the potent fire; fire, potency in relation to the potent sun; the sun, potency in relation to Krishna, the supremely potent.) The entire content of what is can be exhaustively described as Krishna and His energies.

Three of Krishna’s multitudinous potencies are prominent. One of them manifests the whole material world; another, the innumerable spiritual souls.

The third—called the internal potency—manifests the transcendental kingdom of God.

This internal potency has three further subdivisions. By one of these transcendental potencies, Krishna maintains His existence and that of the eternal kingdom of God; by another, He knows Himself and causes others to know Him. And by the third internal potency He enjoys transcendental bliss and causes His devotees to feel bliss.

This internal potency of bliss, called hladini- shakti, is Srimati Radharani.



As the embodiment of Krishna’s transcendental pleasure-giving potency, Srimati Radharani is Krishna’s most perfect devotee; She lives only for satisfying Him with Her pure devotional love.

All devotional service falls under the auspices of Srimati Radharani, and only by Her mercy and care are the devotees able to please Her beloved Krishna. She is the ideal devotee, the exemplar of unconditioned love.

Krishna and Radha are simultaneously one and yet different, just as a fire and its light are one and yet different at the same time. Thus, although Radharani and Krishna are one in Their identity, They have separated Themselves eternally.

Radha and Krishna together exemplify the simultaneous oneness and difference of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His energy, constituting the whole of the Absolute Truth. Thus they illustrate the most profound metaphysical principle.

Radharani and Krishna show that the ultimate nature of God contains internal varieties, and Their endless reciprocation of love is the basis of an internal transcendental dynamic by which Krishna is eternally increasing in beauty and bliss.

Although Radha has no desire for her own enjoyment, when She sees Krishna, Her joy increases without bound. Because Her joy increases, Her sweetness and beauty also increase. When Krishna sees Radha becoming more and more beautiful, His joy also becomes greater, making His beauty and His sweetness grow.

When Radha sees that She has pleased Krishna, She becomes overjoyed, and as Her joy multiplies, She becomes even more beautiful and sweet. This again increases Krishna’s own joy, beauty, and sweetness… . And so the reciprocation goes on and on, without limit or end.

The name Krishna means “all-attractive,” and knowing the reciprocation of ever-increasing love between Radha and Krishna allows us to appreciate how attractive God is—much more attractive than anything in this world.

When God is misconceived as static and without variegatedness, it makes the material world seem more interesting and alluring by comparison. Just this sort of static conception was borrowed by Christian philosophers from Aristotle and enshrined in medieval theology; and this is one reason why the Renaissance turned to the material world for a sense of promise, adventure, and expanding possibilities.

For God was philosophically understood as actus purus, which meant that He was everything that He could ever be; He was entirely static, a kind of crystalized, frozen perfection.

It was thought that if God possesses the fullness of infinite perfection, then the divine perfection would be at an absolute maximum and could not increase. But Krishnadasa Kaviraja says that although God is at the fullness of perfection, He still does increase.

The apparent paradox may be easier to accept if you consider a similar “paradox” discovered by modern mathematicians in their investigation of the properties of infinite sets. Let us consider, for example, a hotel with infinite rooms, all of which are occupied.

Although the hotel is full, you can always add more guests—in fact, an infinite number of guests. Let us imagine that the desk clerk wants to check in a new guest. He blows a whistle, and all the doors open. The occupant of room 1 moves to room 2, of 2 to room 3, … and so on, ad infinitum. The new guest enters the now- empty room 1.

Similarly, even though an infinite number of guests check out of the hotel, it will retain full occupancy. The Ishopanishad makes a similar point about the Supreme Personality of Godhead: He is so complete that even though countless energies emanate from Him, He remains complete and wholly undiminished. And although Krishna is full and complete, yet, through His loving reciprocation with Radha, He eternally increases without limit.

Lord Caitanya also embodies another phase in the transcendental psychology of the loving reciprocation between Radha and Krishna. We have already seen how Krishna is ceaselessly fascinated and attracted by Radha. He finds Her love for Him equally amazing. Its selfless purity and its intensity fill Him with wonder.

Krishnadasa Kaviraja tells us that Krishna thinks to Himself, “Whatever pleasure I get from tasting My love for Srimati Radharani, She tastes ten million times more than Me by Her love” (Cc. Adi 4.126).

Krishna is the supreme enjoyer, but He realizes that Srimati Radharani, by Her love for Him, enjoys even more bliss than He does. Thus Krishna becomes eager to experience for Himself the flavor of Srimati Radharani’s love for Him.

Krishna’s beauty and sweetness are so limitless that they attract the whole universe. Krishnadasa Kaviraja says: “The beauty of Krishna has one natural strength: it thrills the hearts of all men and women, beginning with Lord Krishna Himself.

All minds are attracted by hearing his sweet voice and flute, or by seeing His beauty. Even Lord Krishna Himself makes efforts to taste that sweetness” (Cc. Adi 4.147-48). But the one who relishes Krishna’s beauty and sweetness the most is Srimati Radharani.

Her immaculate love is like a flawless mirror, and in that mirror Krishna’s own beauty and sweetness shine with ever greater brightness. Thus Krishna desires to experience His own attractiveness in the way that Srimati Radharani does.

For these reasons, then, Krishna desires to take the position of Srimati Radharani. That desire is eternally fulfilled in the person of Lord Caitanya. In His form as Lord Caitanya, Krishna assumes the golden complexion and the devotional feelings of Radha, and tastes for Himself the unlimited bliss of devotional service.

Krishnadasa Kaviraja sets down two verses in which he summarizes the nature of Lord Caitanya: “The loving affairs of Sri Radha and Krishna are transcendental manifestations of the Lord’s internal pleasure-giving potency.

Although Radha and Krishna are one in Their identity, They separated Themselves eternally. Now these two transcendental identities have again united in the form of Sri Krishna Caitanya. I bow down to Him, who has manifested Himself with the sentiment and complexion of Srimati Radharani although He is Krishna Himself.

Desiring to understand the glory of Radharani’s love, the wonderful qualities in Him that She alone relishes through Her love, and the happiness She feels when She realizes the sweetness of His love, the Supreme Lord Hari, richly endowed with Her emotions, appeared from the womb of Srimati Sacidevi, as the moon appeared from the ocean” (Cc. Adi 1.5-6).

The three transcendental personalities of Radha, Krishna, and Caitanya together manifest the eternal dialectics of divine love, the timeless dynamics of the ever-expanding ocean of transcendental bliss.

Lord Caitanya descended to flood the world with that ocean of love by distributing to everyone the chanting of the names of God. Simply by chanting Hare Krishna, anyone can enter into that limitless ocean of the nectar of devotion.

Lord Caitanya inaugurated a bhakti renaissance and turned people’s vision to God at the same time that the Renaissance in Europe turned people’s vision to man and the world.

Men like da Vinci, fascinated by the marvelous and cunning complexities of material nature, began to delve into her secrets with an insatiable curiosity and were rewarded with discovery.

At the same time, as if in counterbalance, Lord Caitanya, through the renaissance of bhakti, gave to the world an unprecedented view into the inner dynamics of infinite love in the all-attractive Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Just as men of the Renaissance tried to open up the world and unlock the secrets of nature, Lord Caitanya and His associates opened up the kingdom of God and unlocked the secrets of love of God.

To the people of the Renaissance, the world and man seemed imbued with limitless possibility and promise. Western civilization to the present day has been following up on that vision, and it becomes more and more apparent that the world and man have not lived up to their promise.

The Renaissance shift of vision from God to man and matter has cut people off from any transcendent source of meaning and value, and the resultant relativism and nihilism—the ripened fruit of the Renaissance—have released demonic energies that have devastated the earth in our time. And there is more to come.

Therefore, Lord Caitanya’s appearance was most timely. The civilization born in Europe during the Renaissance has grown to straddle the earth. But there has been a most fortunate counterflux, as the sankirtana movement of Lord Caitanya has also spread over the globe, in fulfillment of Lord Caitanya’s own prophecy.

By showing how Krishna is supremely loving and all-attractive, and by making Krishna easily accessible through the chanting of His names. Lord Caitanya has made it possible for us to shift our vision back to God once more.

This is necessary. Man and the world cannot answer to the demand we have placed upon them. Only Krishna and His transcendental kingdom, where He eternally revels in pastimes of love, can do that. This alone is the realm that is rich with infinite promise, beckoning to us with limitless possibilities.




The Islamic invasion of India and Afghanistan 1000 years ago. Either choose the Quran in one hand or get punished by the sword in the other!! (Choose life or be killed)

The sad "honest" history of Islam's invasion of the Indian subcontinent and forcible conversions to Islam that began almost 1000 years ago.

This is an important history lesson about Islams violent invasion and forcible conversions of India, South East Asia and Indonesia.

It was not until the end of the 13th century that the spread of Islam began in Indonesia

Primitive fundamentalist Islamic invaders from the middle East lead to India's division into there countries based on Religion today, India (Mostly Hindu), Pakistan (Muslim) and Bangladesh (Muslim).

When India was invaded in the 9th Century AD by fundamentalist Muslims, the Muslims went on violent murderous rampage from Village to Village fanatically preaching the Quran in one hand and the sword in the other, demanding that the Indian Hindu and Buddhist population choose the Quran.


Either choose the Quran in one hand or sword in the other!! (Life or death)

In this way sadly Millions of Hindus were forcibly converted to Islam and many more Hindu men, women and children and Buddhists were slaughtered over a period of 500 years.

Many Deities from the Vedic religion showing Lord Krishna and Narayana's form as the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, were smashed and destroyed because in Islam it is punishable by death to suggest God has a form.

Many Vedic scriptures were also destroyed by these fanatical sub-human barbarians from the Middle East with their hateful religion.

PHOTO - Young boy with Quran in one hand and dagger in the other that demands the people to ONLY choose one.

Tuesday, March 19, 2019

‘The Orbits of the Planets’ from Srimad Bhagavatam's 5th Canto by His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

The Orbits of the Planets

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 22

‘The Orbits of the Planets’ text 1 to text 17

By His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

In this chapter the orbits of the planets are described.

According to the movements of the moon and other planets, all the inhabitants of the universe are prone to auspicious and inauspicious situations. This is referred to as the influence of the stars.

The sun-god, who controls the affairs of the entire universe, especially in regard to heat, light, seasonal changes and so on, is considered an expansion of Nārāyaṇa. He represents the three Vedas —

Ṛg,
Yajur,
Sāma,

And therefore he is known as Trayīmaya, the form of Lord Nārāyaṇa.

Sometimes the sun-god is also called Sūrya Nārāyaṇa. The sun-god has expanded himself in twelve divisions, and thus he controls the six seasonal changes and causes winter, summer, rain and so on.

Yogīs and karmīs following the varṇāśrama institution, who practice haṭha or aṣṭāṅga-yoga or who perform agnihotra sacrifices, worship Sūrya Nārāyaṇa for their own benefit.

The demigod Sūrya is always in touch with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa.

Residing in outer space, which is in the middle of the universe, between Bhūloka and Bhuvarloka, the sun rotates through the time circle of the zodiac, represented by twelve rāśis, or signs, and assumes different names according to the sign he is in. For the moon, every month is divided into two fortnights.


Similarly, according to solar calculations, a month is equal to the time the sun spends in one constellation; two months constitute one season, and there are twelve months in a year.

The entire area of the sky is divided into two halves, each representing an ayana, the course traversed by the sun within a period of six months. The sun travels sometimes slowly, sometimes swiftly and sometimes at a moderate speed.

In this way it travels within the three worlds, consisting of the heavenly planets, the earthly planets and outer space. These orbits are referred to by great learned scholars by the names Saṁvatsara, Parivatsara, Iḍāvatsara, Anuvatsara and Vatsara.

The moon is situated 100,000 yojanas above the rays of the sunshine. Day and night on the heavenly planets and Pitṛloka are calculated according to its waning and waxing.

Above the moon by a distance of 200,000 yojanas are some stars, and above these stars is Śukra-graha (Venus), whose influence is always auspicious for the inhabitants of the entire universe.

Above Śukra-graha by 200,000 yojanas is Budha-graha (Mercury), whose influence is sometimes auspicious and sometimes inauspicious.

Next, above Budha-graha by 200,000 yojanas, is Aṅgāraka (Mars), which almost always has an unfavorable influence.

Above Aṅgāraka by another 200,000 yojanas is the planet called Bṛhaspati-graha (Jupiter), which is always very favorable for qualified brāhmaṇas.

Above Bṛhaspati-graha is the planet Śanaiścara (Saturn), which is very inauspicious, and above Saturn is a group of seven stars occupied by great saintly persons who are always thinking of the welfare of the entire universe.

These seven stars circumambulate Dhruvaloka, which is the residence of Lord Viṣṇu within this universe.

SB 5.22.1

Translation:

King Parīkṣit inquired from Śukadeva Gosvāmī: My dear lord, you have already affirmed the truth that the supremely powerful sun-god travels around Dhruvaloka with both Dhruvaloka and Mount Sumeru on his right.

Yet at the same time the sun-god faces the signs of the zodiac and keeps Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on his left. How can we reasonably accept that the sun-god proceeds with Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on both his left and right simultaneously?

SB 5.22.2

Translation:

Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī clearly answered: When a potter’s wheel is moving and small ants located on that big wheel are moving with it, one can see that their motion is different from that of the wheel because they appear sometimes on one part of the wheel and sometimes on another.

Similarly, the signs and constellations, with Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on their right, move with the wheel of time, and the antlike sun and other planets move with them.

The sun and planets, however, are seen in different signs and constellations at different times. This indicates that their motion is different from that of the zodiac and the wheel of time itself.

SB 5.22.3

Translation:

The original cause of the cosmic manifestation is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa.

When great saintly persons, fully aware of the Vedic knowledge, offered prayers to the Supreme Person, He descended to this material world in the form of the sun to benefit all the planets and purify fruitive activities.

He divided Himself into twelve parts and created seasonal forms, beginning with spring. In this way He created the seasonal qualities, such as heat, cold and so on.

SB 5.22.4

Translation:

According to the system of four varṇas and four āśramas, people generally worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa, who is situated as the sun-god.

With great faith they worship the Supreme Personality as the Supersoul according to ritualistic ceremonies handed down in the three Vedas, such as agnihotra and similar higher and lower fruitive acts, and according to the process of mystic yoga. In this way they very easily attain the ultimate goal of life.

SB 5.22.5

Translation:

The sun-god, who is Nārāyaṇa, or Viṣṇu, the soul of all the worlds, is situated in outer space between the upper and lower portions of the universe.

Passing through twelve months on the wheel of time, the sun comes in touch with twelve different signs of the zodiac and assumes twelve different names according to those signs.

The aggregate of those twelve months is called a saṁvatsara, or an entire year. According to lunar calculations, two fortnights — one of the waxing moon and the other of the waning — form one month.

That same period is one day and night for the planet Pitṛloka. According to stellar calculations, a month equals two and one quarter constellations. When the sun travels for two months, a season passes, and therefore the seasonal changes are considered parts of the body of the year.

SB 5.22.6

Translation:

Thus the time the sun takes to rotate through half of outer space is called an ayana, or its period of movement [in the north or in the south].

SB 5.22.7

Translation:

The sun-god has three speeds — slow, fast and moderate. The time he takes to travel entirely around the spheres of heaven, earth and space at these three speeds is referred to, by learned scholars, by the five names

Saṁvatsara,
Parivatsara,
Iḍāvatsara,
Anuvatsara,
Vatsara.

Purport:

According to solar astronomical calculations, each year extends six days beyond the calendar year, and according to lunar calculations, each year is six days shorter.

Therefore, because of the movements of the sun and moon, there is a difference of twelve days between the solar and lunar years.

As the Saṁvatsara, Parivatsara, Iḍāvatsara, Anuvatsara and Vatsara pass by, two extra months are added within each five years. This makes a sixth saṁvatsara, but because that saṁvatsara is extra, the solar system is calculated according to the above five names.

SB 5.22.8

Translation:

Above the rays of the sunshine by a distance of 100,000 yojanas [800,000 miles] is the moon, which travels at a speed faster than that of the sun.

In two lunar fortnights the moon travels through the equivalent of a saṁvatsara of the sun, in two and a quarter days it passes through a month of the sun, and in one day it passes through a fortnight of the sun.

Purport:

When we take into account that the moon is 100,000 yojanas, or 800,000 miles, above the rays of the sunshine, it is very surprising that the modern excursions to the moon could be possible.

Since the moon is so distant, how space vehicles could go there is a doubtful mystery.

Modern scientific calculations are subject to one change after another, and therefore they are uncertain. We have to accept the calculations of the Vedic literature.

These Vedic calculations are steady; the astronomical calculations made long ago and recorded in the Vedic literature are correct even now.

Whether the Vedic calculations or modern ones are better may remain a mystery for others, but as far as we are concerned, we accept the Vedic calculations to be correct.

SB 5.22.9

Translation:

When the moon is waxing, the illuminating portions of it increase daily, thus creating day for the demigods and night for the pitās.

When the moon is waning, however, it causes night for the demigods and day for the pitās.

In this way the moon passes through each constellation of stars in thirty muhūrtas [an entire day].

The moon is the source of nectarean coolness that influences the growth of food grains, and therefore the moon-god is considered the life of all living entities. He is consequently called Jīva, the chief living being within the universe.

SB 5.22.10

Translation:

Because the moon is full of all potentialities, it represents the influence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The moon is the predominating deity of everyone’s mind, and therefore the moon-god is called Manomaya.

He is also called Annamaya because he gives potency to all herbs and plants, and he is called Amṛtamaya because he is the source of life for all living entities.

The moon pleases the demigods, pitās, human beings, animals, birds, reptiles, trees, plants and all other living entities. Everyone is satisfied by the presence of the moon. Therefore the moon is also called Sarvamaya [all-pervading].

SB 5.22.11

Translation:

There are many stars located 200,000 yojanas [1,600,000 miles] above the moon.

By the supreme will of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they are fixed to the wheel of time, and thus they rotate with Mount Sumeru on their right, their motion being different from that of the sun.

There are twenty-eight important stars, headed by Abhijit.

Purport:

The stars referred to herein are 1,600,000 miles above the sun, and thus they are 4,000,000 miles above the earth.

SB 5.22.12

Translation:

Some 1,600,000 miles above this group of stars is the planet Venus, which moves at almost exactly the same pace as the sun according to swift, slow and moderate movements. Sometimes Venus moves behind the sun, sometimes in front of the sun and sometimes along with it.

Venus nullifies the influence of planets that are obstacles to rainfall. Consequently its presence causes rainfall, and it is therefore considered very favorable for all living beings within this universe. This has been accepted by learned scholars.

SB 5.22.13

Translation:

Mercury is described to be similar to Venus, in that it moves sometimes behind the sun, sometimes in front of the sun and sometimes along with it. It is 1,600,000 miles above Venus, or 7,200,000 miles above earth.

Mercury, which is the son of the moon, is almost always very auspicious for the inhabitants of the universe, but when it does not move along with the sun, it forbodes cyclones, dust, irregular rainfall, and waterless clouds. In this way it creates fearful conditions due to inadequate or excessive rainfall.

SB 5.22.14

Translation:

Situated 1,600,000 miles above Mercury, or 8,800,000 miles above earth, is the planet Mars.

If this planet does not travel in a crooked way, it crosses through each sign of the zodiac in three fortnights and in this way travels through all twelve, one after another.

It almost always creates unfavorable conditions in respect to rainfall and other influences.

SB 5.22.15

Translation:

Situated 1,600,000 miles above Mars, or 10,400,000 miles above earth, is the planet Jupiter, which travels through one sign of the zodiac within the period of a Parivatsara.

If its movement is not curved, the planet Jupiter is very favorable to the brāhmaṇas of the universe.

SB 5.22.16

Translation:

Situated 1,600,000 miles above Jupiter, or 12,000,000 miles above earth, is the planet Saturn, which passes through one sign of the zodiac in thirty months and covers the entire zodiac circle in thirty Anuvatsaras. This planet is always very inauspicious for the universal situation.

SB 5.22.17

Translation:

Situated 8,800,000 miles above Saturn, or 20,800,000 miles above earth, are the seven saintly sages, who are always thinking of the well-being of the inhabitants of the universe. They circumambulate the supreme abode of Lord Viṣṇu, known as Dhruvaloka, the polestar.

Purport:

Śrīla Madhvācārya quotes the following verse from the Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa:

jñānānandātmano viṣṇuḥ
śiśumāra-vapuṣy atha
ūrdhva-lokeṣu sa vyāpta
ādityādyās tad-āśritā

“Lord Viṣṇu, who is the source of knowledge and transcendental bliss, has assumed the form of Śiśumāra in the seventh heaven, which is situated in the topmost level of the universe.

All the other planets, beginning with the sun, exist under the shelter of this Śiśumāra planetary system.”

Bhaktivedanta purports of the Fifth Canto, Twenty-second Chapter, of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled “The Orbits of the Planets.”




Monday, March 18, 2019

Maybe the single material Universe we are in size is like a ''HALL OF MIRRORS'' a universe made bigger by reflecting it's own universal bodies like putting mirrors on the walls, roof and floor around a small room that makes the room look huge and endless.

This single Material Universe we are in maybe like a ''hall of mirrors''

According to Srimad Bhagavatam we cannot see other Brahmandas or material universe through the different layers of earth or solid rock, fire, air, water, etc that are Quadrillions of miles thick making up our own Brahmanda or universe.

Srila Prabhupada explains we cannot see other universe or Brahmandas from so deep within our Brahmanda (large universe coming fron the body of Maha Vishnu seen below in painting).

Some have speculated that our small Bhu-Mandala universe with its 14 different Planetary Systems deep within the surrounding Brahmanda that is 4 billion miles in diameter and 12 billion 340 million miles in circumference is maybe having a ”hall of mirrors” effect within our own Bhu-Mandala universe or like seeing a mirage in a desert that is an illusion.

Many ask how does Bhagavatam explain the Hubble Telescopes view of the universe that modern science claims expands to about 90 billion light years when Bhagavatam says it is a mere 4 billion miles in diameter and at the speed of light is traveled through in 90 minutes.

The suggestion is all the various so called galaxies maybe simply reflections of our own universe's Planetary Systems like in a ”hall of mirrors” that make the room look a lot bigger than what it is when the floor, roof and walls are all mirrors.

After all no one has traveled deep within space, according to NASA the furthest man has traveled is 238,000 miles away from earth when they apparently went to the Moon that many devotees question, but that is another story.

Modern sciences exploration of Space and understanding comes from telescopes and space probes and Satellites.

It is suggest that many clusters of galaxies seen are reflections of this solar system we are in, the fact is no one knows.

Other devotees like Danavir Maharaj, Sadaputa dasa, Mayesa Dasa, Rajasekhara Das Brahmachari, Richard Cole Radhamohan have all tried to answer this but they also do not know and only have an opinion.

Nothing in sastra will explain why we see other galaxies that make this universe so large when it is only 4 billion miles in diameter and 12 billion 340 million miles in circumference.

Maybe the ”Hall of mirrors” is the best answer.