Karanodakasayi-Visnu (Maha-Visnu) is an expansion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa and creates the mysterious material world with His dreaming. This is difficult to comprehend for most because it is only understood correctly by Krsna's (God's) dear devotees.
Only a small percentage of individual
jiva-souls (less than 10%) leave the perpetual spiritual world and enter the
temporary material world, where they enter a material bodily vessel and
experience the repeated cycle of birth and death of that material bodily
container.
The individual life force (living units of anti-matter) who enters
the material world from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the
spiritual world), are known as individual jiva-souls who become housed in a
material bodily vessel (decaying matter) provided by Krsna's expansion
Maha-Visnu (hired from Him) so they can pursue their desires in the material
world without Kṛṣṇa or Visnu.
As said above, Maha-Visnu is an expansion of the Supreme
Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa and creates the mysterious temporary material
world (lifeless matter), including all material bodily vessels that the
visiting individual jiva-souls become passengers in.
The Spiritual Sky means all that there is, which is both the
"living" spiritual world, and the "dead" material world. The
individual jiva-souls are naturally part of the spiritual world that is their home
and only visit the temporary material world, and can further fall down to the
"inactive" (dormant) impersonal brahmajyoti where they unnaturally temporarily
appear as a bodiless “spiritual spark.”
All activities in the decaying material world (dead matter) are
the dreams of Maha-Visnu that takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky. The spiritual
world (active living eternal individual units of anti-matter) takes up 75% of
the Spiritual Sky that includes Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and
cause of all causes, and His Visnu-tattva expansions.
This is difficult to comprehend for most because it is only understood correctly by Krsna's (God's) representatives (devotees) and never through mental speculation, or from those who foolishly believe all individual jiva-souls originate from a nonsense impersonal origin known as an all-pervasive “oneness” of consciousness, who foolishly believe God (Krsna) is not ultimately an individual Person as a spiritual bodily form, but only as an all-pervasive oneness of consciousness.
The
fact is Krsna is both an individual unique Person and all-pervasive (all-one)
with His creation.
All material bodily vessel's
pathways (decaying matter) are "hired" to the individual jiva-souls
(living units of anti-matter) by Maha-Visnu to those who enter the material
world after falling down (or choosing to leave) their original home in the
spiritual world (the Kingdom of God).
Once entering the temporary
material world, the individual jiva-souls become a passengers in a material
bodily vessel provided for their journey through the temporary material world
by Maha-Visnu. He facilities those individual jiva-souls (devotees) who had
previously rejected Krsna or Visnu in the spiritual world.
All individual life originates
from the spiritual world’s of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, this
means no life originates from the material world, the impersonal brahmajyoti,
or from the Body of Maha-Visnu (Krsna's expansion who creates the material
world).
Maha-Visnu is Krsna's direct
expansion, who also expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu and as Ksirodakasayi Visnu
(Paramatma or Supersoul) who have their roles to play in the management and maintenance
of the temporary material world.
For example, Ksirodakasayi Visnu
known as the 4 armed Supersoul or Paramatma Form of God, accompanies every
individual jiva-soul who enters the material world. In Gaudiya Vaisnava
theology the Paramatma does not accompany the individual jiva-souls when they
enter or merge into the impersonal brahmajyoti (the spiritual effulgence of Krsna)
The role of Ksirodakasayi Visnu (Paramātmā
or Supersoul):
The Paramātmā (an expansion of Viṣṇu/Kṛṣṇa)
accompanies and resides in the heart alongside the individual jīva-soul specifically
within the material world (and within material bodies) to witness, sanction,
and guide the jiva-soul's material experiences and desires.
State in the brahmajyoti:
When a individual jīva-soul attempts to end
material suffering by extinguishing its active individuality and merging into
the impersonal brahmajyoti, it enters a dormant, inactive state. Because this
state is devoid of personal loving service or relational interaction with the
Supreme Lord, it is viewed by Vaisnava devotees as a form of spiritual
stagnation rather than true liberation (mukti). The personal presence of
the Ksirodakasayi Visnu (Paramātmā) as an
active guide does not operate within that impersonal merging in the dormant
brahmajyoti.
The Srimad Bhagavatam explains
that even in the material atom exists a dormant (inactive) individual jiva-soul
accompanied by the Supersoul or Paramatma.
As said above, no individual
jiva-soul (marginal living entity) originates from Maha-Visnu, they all enter
His material world after choosing to leave or fall down from their original
natural position and home in the spiritual world.
All material bodily vessels and
their pathways through the material world that house the "individual
jiva-souls" as the passenger, enter from outside the lifeless material
world, meaning they originally came from the Vaikuntha planets and
Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God)
Once in the temporary material
world, the individual jiva-souls "hire" a material bodily vessel and
its pathway from Maha-Visnu (from His dreaming) the creator of the temporary
material world.
The material world is visited by
only a minority of individual jiva-souls (less than 10% from the spiritual
world, voluntarily enter the material world) whose original natural position
and home is always the spiritual world.
As said above, no individual
jiva-souls originates from the temporary decaying lifeless material world where
the individual jiva-souls are only a visitor housed in a material bodily
vessel.
So clearly, the individual
jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) never originated from the
lifeless temporary material world, from Maha-Visnu, or from the impersonal
inactive brahmajyoti (Krsna's Bodily effulgence).
In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4
Chapter 28 text 53 and text 54/5 is explained that the individual jiva-soul's
original home is with Visnu or Krsna in either the Vaikuntha planets where
Visnu resides, or in Krsna's Personal Abode known as Goloka-Vrindavana.
The individual jiva-souls (living
individual units of anti-matter) are not suppose to be in the decaying material
world covered by a decaying material bodily vessel housed as the passenger, or
after becoming frustrated with material life within those material bodily
vessel as a passenger, artificially escaping from that painful bodily cycle of
repeated birth and death, by attempting to enter the dormant
"inactive" (impersonal) brahmajyoti effulgence (Krsna's Bodily
effulgence).
In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 text
28, Krsna in the disguise of a Brahmana, asks the individual jiva-soul, now
trapped in the material world,
"Do you remember
Me?"
So, how is it possible to
remember what you never previous knew? This clearly means we originate from
Goloka Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets, and from there have entered the
temporary material world.
Only the uneducated believe the individual jiva-souls originate from the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti, or the Body of Maha-Visnu.
The individual jiva-souls do not originate from the inactive (dormant) impersonal brahmajyoti, or the Body of Maha-Visnu. In fact life (anti-matter) only exists in the material world after coming from the spiritual world.
In other words, all life that enters the material world comes under the jurisdiction of Maha-Visnu after the individual jiva-souls fall down or leave the spiritual world (the Kingdom of God).
The mysterious workings of
Maha-Visnu's material world works in a way that not even science fiction
writers can imagine, all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are
housed in as passengers, originate from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
The individual jiva-souls, also
known as the marginal living entities due to having free will, can choose to
remain in the spiritual world, their natural home, or enter the temporary
material world and become housed as a passenger in an unlimited number of
material bodily vessels and their pathways on their journey through the
material world.
Being able to choose between
being in their natural home and original position in the spiritual world, or
enter the temporary material world, is what being "marginal living
entities" mean.
The marginal platform also known as tatastha-sakti, refers to the “individual jiva-souls” as being on the "border-line," or on the fence (not literally) between the spiritual world and the material world.
Tatastha-sakti is NOT a place in Krsna’s creation, it means the eternal individual jiva-souls always have a choice to live in the spiritual world, or live the material world.
It means they can remain in their original position and home in the spiritual world, or can choose to enter the temporary material world where they are housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel, and experience repeated birth and death while confined within a those material bodily vessels.
Those individual jiva-souls who have left the spiritual world and entered the material world, must go to Maha-Visnu who creates and maintains the material world, and "hire" from Him a suitable material bodily vessel and its pathway from Him that is in sync with their own desires.
Maha-Visnu is dreaming of the entire material world, everything in the material world are His dreams.
All material bodily vessel's pathways through the material world are "hired" to the individual jiva-souls by Maha-Visnu for them to be a passenger in while on their journey travelling through the temporary material world (decaying matter) because they have rejected Krsna and Visnu in the spiritual world (living anti-matter).
Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this
body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired"
from the Supreme Lord (Maha-Visnu). This is very subtle understanding; one
should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York
City).
Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu
creates the material world by His dreaming and includes all
temporary material bodily vessels and their pathways that the individual
jiva-souls are passengers in/on while outside of the spiritual world and now living in the temporary material world.
Nothing material (dead matter)
exists in the spiritual world which includes living individual units of
anti-matter known as the individual jiva-souls, who are minor and separated
expansions of Krsna, and Kṛṣṇa the Supreme Personality of Godhead who is the
cause of all causes, and His Visnu-tattva expansions, who are all individual
persons yet simultaneously all-one with Kṛṣṇa, yet seen as unlimited individual
Visnu/Narayana Forms in the spiritual and the material worlds.
This means Kṛṣṇa is “all-pervasive” (all-one) as everything in the spiritual world and material worlds and simultaneously an “individual Person as a spiritual bodily Form” with His Visnu-tattva expansions and His separated jiva-tattva expansion (individual jiva-souls) taking up 75% of the spiritual world in Krsna's Spiritual Sky.
The material world created
by Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu takes up 25% of Krsna’s Spiritual Sky however, is devoid of life and is only where individual life (individual jiva-souĺs)
enters after leaving the spiritual world.
All facilities (made of decaying matter) in the material world are provided (hired out) by Maha-Visnu through His dreams to those individual jiva-souls who can no longer stay in the spiritual world due to voluntarily rejecting Krsna and Visnu.
The individual jiva-souls can do this due to being "marginal living entities" which allows them to have the "free will" to be independent separated individual
jiva-souls who express themselves in the way they choose.
As previously explained, no individual jiva-soul (marginal living entity) originate from Maha-Visnu, His dreaming of the
material world, or from the impersonal dormant "inactive" brahmajyoti
(Krsna's Bodily effulgence)
Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila
Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the
individual jiva-soul goes into the brahmajyoti, that is considered a fallen
condition, still fallen, so does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed
of fallen individual jiva-souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a
jīva-soul, and if I go there to the brahmajyoti effulgence, am I fallen?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."
Revatīnandana dasa - "That
means all individual jīva-souls there in the impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti)
are also fallen souls?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes,
existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna
consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen
condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition.
When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition
(Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna
consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, L.A. 13 June, 1970 and 1971
London)
The individual jiva-soul's original position, origin and home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual world.
Within the spiritual world because Krsna allows a two-way exchange of emotions, the individual jiva-souls (devotees) can reject Krsna and Viṣṇu if they choose, and be transferred to Maha-Visnu's material
world via His dreams, which is an array of unlimited material bodily
vessels and their pathways that the individual jiva-souls can "hire" and enter as the passenger while in the material world.
These material bodily vessel pathways are an already build and established roadway from the dreams of Maha-Visnu, are fixed within the fabric of material time's past, present and future. Each step of material time, moving through material vessels on their pathway, eternally exists within Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world.
The individual jiva-souls are on a material bodily pathway made of material bodily containers they are passengers in, on a journey through past, present and future housed in those temporary material bodies, experiencing repeated birth and death for as long as they stay housed in a material bodily vessel within the material world.
There are unlimited
"material bodily pathways" available to the individual
jiva-souls to be a passenger in/on, instantly placing them on a "fixed
material bodily roadway" in Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material world.
The individual jiva-souls
(marginal living entities), just like Krsna, were never created and have no
origin to their existence, nor will they ever cease to be, they are eternal just like Krsna is as
Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 12 to 30 explains.
The individual jiva-souls never originated from the impersonal brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti, the material world or
Maha-Visnu because they have no origin, they are beginningless and endless and
were never created, just like Krsna was never created and has always existed.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did
not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us
cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously
passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly
passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a
change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the non-permanent
appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course,
are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They
arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate
them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the
person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is
certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Those who are seers of the truth
have concluded that of the non-existent [the material body] there is no
endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have
concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "That which pervades the entire body
you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that
imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible,
immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore,
fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Neither he who thinks the living
entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self
slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth
nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being,
and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and
primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20
from the “corrected” 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who
knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill
anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments,
giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up
the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces
by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the
wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable
and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present
everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2
text 24)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is
invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for
the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the
soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have
no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is
sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the
unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2
text 27)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest
in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when
annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing,
some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others,
even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2
text 29)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who
dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve
for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)
Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and
old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never
dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to
Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)
There is no origin to Krsna's
marginal energy, an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who have all
existed for as long as Krsna has existed, which is for eternity.
The individual jiva-souls are
eternal living persons as a spiritual bodily form who can never be destroyed,
cut into pieces, terminated or extinguished, the individual jiva-souls are
indestructible.
Krsna and the individual
jiva-souls are like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays that cannot exist without
each other. Krsna and the individual jiva-souls have always existed together
and were never created.
Although, as said above, the real
eternal home of the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) is always in
either the Vaikuntha planets of Lord Visnu, or Krsna's central planet of Goloka
Vrindavana, and not the temporary mundane material creation, or merged
inactively (dormant) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, or originate from the Body
of Maha-Visnu.
No individual life exists or
originates from Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material creation that includes
all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in. All
life in the material world comes from the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha
planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).
Maha-Visnu's dreams all the
temporary material world, He sees the individual jiva-soul's movement through
material time's past, present and future, "housed" as the passenger
(anti-matter) in a material bodily vessel and its pathway (matter).
This pathway of material bodily
vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, is also known as Mahā-Viṣṇu's
"block material universe" where past, present and future all exist at
the same time eternally, where the individual jiva-souls pass through that
passage or pathway of material time, as its passenger "housed" in a
material bodily containers.
This means each step along the
way through material time, material bodily vessels exist as a pathway that
house an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter the
temporary material world.
Each "pathway of material
bodily vessels" that house an individual jiva-soul as its passenger,
always exist in Mahā-Viṣṇu's already dreamed dreams.
These material bodily pathways,
also known as a progressive thoroughfare moving through past, present and
future, means it is a road or route forming material bodily pathways from one
place to another that is always open to "house" an unlimited number
of individual jiva-souls who choose to enter those pathways of the infamous and
famous, demigod and demon.
Only a minority of individual
jiva-souls (less than 10%) choose to leave their real spiritual home in the
Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and foolishly enter the temporary
material world and move into a material bodily vessel's pathway as a passenger.
All material bodily vessel's
pathway that house the individual jiva-souls as a passenger, are
"hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams of His material world.
Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this
body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired"
from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding; one should know the
proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York City).
Srila Prabhupada – “This material creation is the spirit
soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of
Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes - “This material world is created
by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual
world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of
Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB,
Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83).
Srila Prabhupada – “Everything happening within time,
which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the
secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature.” (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29
text 2b).
Srila Prabhupada – “Our contact with matter is just like
dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any
moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream.” (Tokyo
Japan 1972 SB Lecture).
Srila Prabhupada – “Factually all of material existence is
only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who
are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness
through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and
present happiness are merely dreams.” (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b).
Being on a "material bodily
pathway's" journey is how the individual jiva-souls travel through
material bodily vessels existing permanently in time's past, present to future,
as its passenger, moving along the material bodily vessel's pathway's start
(birth) to its end (death), just like one travels from the beginning to the end
of a permanent roadway that many others also travel on.
The means the material bodily
vessel's pathway in the material world is already set in stone within
Maha-Visnu's dreaming, from its beginning to its end, this means each material
bodily pathway that the visiting individual jiva-soul travels in as a passenger,
comes from the already dreamed dreams of Maha-Visnu, and can only be lived
through and never changed because each material bodily vessel's pathway is
already set in stone in Maha-Visnu's already dreamed dreams of the material
world.
All material bodily pathways that
carry the individual jiva-souls as a passenger, eternally exists within the
dreams of Maha-Visnu, just like each frame on a film canister always exists and
can be viewed again and again.
The visiting individual
jiva-souls who choose to leave the spiritual world, where everything there is
living individual personalities of anti-matter, enter the temporary material
world (decaying matter) then "hire" a material bodily vessel and its
pathway off Maha-Visnu, from His dreams, to be a passenger in.
As said above, such material
bodily vessels from the dreams of Maha-Visnu, are a already set in stone there
beginning to its end because Maha-Visnu has already dreamed the entire material
world He opens for "hires" to all individual jiva-souls who choose to
leave the spiritual world, the origin and nature home of all individual life in
Krsna's spiritual, material and impersonal brahmajyoti creations.
Once the individual jiva-souls
enter one of Maha-Visnu's dreams (a material bodily pathway) as its passenger,
nothing in that "hired" bodily material pathway can be changed
because Maha-Visnu has already dreamed them.
However, paradoxically, because
every possible scenario, combination and arrangement of material realities
(dreams) exist within Maha-Visnu's dreams, the individual jiva-soul can even
"hire" a material bodily vessel where they can seemingly change the
past, present and future, making it appear it is not set in stone, but this is
never the case.
This scenario ironically is
possible due to Maha-Visnu granting of all desires the individual jiva-souls
have, including a desire to seemingly change the outcome of a material bodily
pathway's journey through past, present and future as its passenger. However,
that seemingly attempt to change history is also included when a material
bodily vessel's pathway is "hired" from Maha-Visnu.
In actually fact, the individual
jiva-souls have not changed anything because the "dream" they
seemingly believed changed, is already included in Maha-Visnu's "dreamed
dreams of the material world."
No matter what the individual
jiva-souls desires, everything they can possibly desire is already included
within the dreamed dream of Maha-Visnu, all found in His unlimited "Vault
Of Endless Dreams" that covers every combination, scenario and outcome
possible.
Therefore, even when the
individual jiva-souls believe they have changed an outcome, that outcome is
also part of Maha-Visnu's dreaming.
The point is everything there is
in Krsna's creation of the material world, belongs to His expansion and
administrator Maha-Visnu's dreams, and nothing can happen outside His dreams
even if the individual jiva-souls think they can.
All material bodily pathways are
permanently available and continuously occupied by a constant stream visiting
individual jiva-souls who have also chosen to leave the spiritual world of the
Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God) and enter the
temporary mundane material world.
In other words, each material
bodily vessel's pathway "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, are
continuously available for other visiting individual jiva-souls from the
spiritual world to also travel through/on as its passenger after leaving the spiritual
world (anti-matter) and entering the temporary material world (matter).
In theoretical physics, the
"block material universe" posits that time is a static dimension
where all past, present, and future events exist simultaneously.
In the context of Maha-Visnu, as
said above, this means that every single permutation of the material world and
every sequence of events, every possible outcome and scenario
"already" and eternally exists within His dreams as the block
universe.
This "block material
universe" and its unlimited collection of "material bodily vessel
pathways" that "house" the individual jiva-souls in matter, are
eternally Maha-Visnu's dreams of the temporary material world.
All material bodily vessels are a
continuous movement of containers on a pathway through past, present and future
for the individual jiva-soul as its passenger to move through, just like
viewing the already permanently existing frames on a film reel or canister that
still remain after being viewed.
In other words, the material
dreams of Maha-Visnu are a permanent fixture of material bodily vessels that
move like the frames on a movie reel.
This is what the block
material universe means, the
individual jiva-souls move through past, present and future housed in a material bodily vessels as a passenger on an already established roadway that from above, one can see its beginning, middle and end. This is like viewing a projector that
plays each frame in sequence on the movie reel.
Those individual jiva-souls (living units of anti-matter) who travel this journey through the material world's past, present and future, are always contained housed in a material bodily vessel as the passenger.
It is that mundane material bodily vessel that belongs to Maha-Visnu and hired to the individual jiva-souls, that carries the individual jiva-soul on its journey through past, present and future in the material world.
As said above, these pathways of
material bodily containers are "hired" from Maha-Visnu dreams so the
individual jiva-souls can enter His material world and pursue their desires with out Krsna and Visnu.
The view of linear-time (moving
forward through time) is different from the over all block material universe
that sees everything, past, present and future simultaneously.
Linear-time is
the forward journey of a material bodily vessel that houses an individual
jiva-soul as its passenger, moving from past to present to future along a pathway
forward through time.
In other words, linear-time is
seen as a sequence of constant unfolding events moving through material time carrying the material bodily vessel the individual jiva-soul is in from its beginning point on
that pathway in the material world, to its middle, and then to its end.
Experiencing this journey through past, present and future seen together all at once (like seeing the entire journey of a roadway from above), is
known as the block material universe.
Seeing a long winding road from above in an aircraft, one can sees its beginning point, its middle, and its ending all at once, like viewing each frame on a movie canister that still exists after watching the film reel.
In the block view
of the material universe, one is able to see where the road began, its middle
and its end.
This is the difference between
the "block material universe" that sees everything similtaneously, and "linear time" that flows forward "along/through" material time.
The block material universe is seen all at once, meaning past, present and future eternally exist all together like one sees frame after frame after frame on a movie reel that continues to exist after one experiences it. This is the block material universe creation of Maha-Visnu.
Only Maha-Visnu and rare mystic
yogis and devotees can see the block material universe above linear time, just like one sees an entire
roadway from above - its beginning, middle and end all happening at the same
time.
All material bodily vessels
(decaying matter) that house the individual jiva-souls as its passenger, are
"hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, coming from His vast "Library
Of Dreams" to those visiting individual jiva-souls (living individual units
of anti-matter) who originate from the spiritual world, whose desires are
in-sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams of material bodily vessels that houses them as
a passenger on their journey through the decaying material world.
All material bodily vessels are
like costumes "hired out" from a costume shop, in this case owned by
Maha-Visnu, to the visiting individual jiva-souls to wear.
The individual jiva-soul's
desires, choices and expressions of "free will" are factored in to a
particular material body and its pathway that they enter as a passenger on its
journey through the temporary material world.
However, free will only partially
exists in the material world in the human species but not in the other eight
million lower species who only respond to the instincts of eating,
sleeping, mating and defending. In other words, free will never exist in
lower species.
Maha-Visnu sees everything,
the beginning, middle and end of all material bodily vessel's pathways moving
through past, present and future simultaneously.
The individual jiva-souls are
passengers in those decaying material bodily pathways moving through past,
present and future.
All material bodily vessels
(decaying matter) occupied (housed) by the visiting individual jiva-souls
(living individual units of anti-matter) who enter the material world to become
a passenger, are the material dreams of Maha-Visnu.
There is always "free
will" however, each material body's pathway destiny that the visiting
individual jiva-souls enter, is already mapped out in the dreams of Maha-Visnu
explained above.
Free will is always factored into
the equation in such a way that the free will of each individual jiva-souls is
never compromised or lost.
Free will always exists in the
spiritual world that allows the individual jiva-souls to voluntarily except or
reject Krsna as they choose, and even leave Krsna's association in the
spiritual world and enter the material world.
But it must be made clear that
very few individual jiva-souls (devotees) fall down from the Vaikuntha planets
and Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual world (The Kingdom of God) and enter the
temporary material world, in fact less than 10% of individual jiva-souls
(devotees) choose to leave meaning over 90% of Krsna's devotees choose to never
leave the perpetual spiritual world.
The freedom to choose must always
be there so voluntary loving expressions, reciprocation, cooperation and
exchanges can openly exist on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana
(The Kingdom of God).
Surrender to Krsna in the
spiritual world does not mean giving up your free will, which is the
independent actions to perform voluntary contributions serving Krsna, and
instead allow Krsna to impersonally control all your thoughts and deeds, no,
that is not what "surrender to Krsna" means!
The fact is, the individual
jiva-souls in the spiritual world are not programmed "mindless"
puppets, who only obey the puppeteer and denied all individual voluntary
contributions they offer in their relationship with Krsna, provided in their own
unique way thinking for themselves without mindless impersonal manipulation.
The individual jiva-souls can
never lose their free will in the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, which
is the individual ability of self expression that allows them to offer their
own personal contributions to Krsna unique to each individual jiva-soul.
Only by having free will can
genuine loving exchanges, reciprocation and voluntary contributions take place.
Without free will the individual jiva-soul is no better than dead stone
Prabhupada has warned us.
Furthermore, Krsna never
interferes with the free will of the individual jiva-souls because if He did
and never allowed them to have their free will (freedom of self-expression) to
voluntary make their own choices in the spiritual world, then that also would
mean loving exchanges and reciprocation with Krsna would never exist.
If one is forced to worship
Krsna or His Visnu/Narayana expansions in an autocratic dictatorship, then that
is not love, it is tyranny, slavery and bullying that denies personal voluntary
contributions in a reciprocal relationship of loving exchanges which is
impersonalism.
The impersonal version of Krsna's
abode of Goloka-Vrindavana or the Vaikuntha planets is where the individual
jiva-souls are forced to surrender their free will (voluntary service of
contributions) to a bogus god that allows this so called god to take over one's
existence and do all your thinking and actions for you.
There are many nonsense sangas
(religious cults) in this world who propagate this dangerous hellish suicidal
dictatorial impersonalism.
These impersonalist, called
Mayavadi offenders, claim everything is ultimately all one which means that an
"all-pervasive" life force (universal consciousness) now individually
restricted within each material bodily vessel, merges back into the oneness of
universal consciousness when the material bodily vessel becomes unfit to
occupy. Just like air in a glass is released from the glass and merges back
into the surrounding air, or water released from a container merges back ito
the river or ocean of water.
Having free will on the other
hand, allows the individual jiva-souls to be themselves, which is an
independent unique contributing devotee who always voluntarily chooses how they
want to please and serve Krsna with their own personal offerings in a "two-sided"
reciprocal relationship of loving exchanges.
Voluntary service is the bases
and meaning of real surrender in Goloka Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets
which are the permanent eternal homes and origin of all the marginal living
entities (individual jiva-souls).
The individual jiva-souls on the
Vaikuntha planets of Visnu and Krsna’s central Abode of Goloka-Vrindavana, are
forever voluntarily expanding the expression of their unique individuality with
an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings based on free will, it
is never a nonsense one-sided master/slave mindless relationship with Krsna.
Krsna does not control the
surrendered individual jiva-souls by force like a puppet master controls the
every movement of his puppets with the manipulations of strings that only deny
self expression, individual contributions and voluntary service.
However, Krsna does encourage
His pure devotees with a "two-way exchange" that allows them to have
voluntary loving reciprocal contributing exchanges with Him, where the
individual jiva-souls can choose their own unique relationship with Krsna bases
on to their unconditional love (attraction) to Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want His devotees
become a lover by force, from the point of revolver, ‘you love me otherwise I
shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal,
voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; no, that
is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8,
1976 in Washington, D.C.)
If the individual jiva-souls
have no free will in the spiritual world, then they are no better than dead
useless stone Prabhupada tells us.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then
you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you
must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become
stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
So, from the self-centred desires
of those individual jiva-souls who choose to ignore Krsna, instantly places
them in the material world. This fall down from the spiritual world begins when
they put their own desires in the centre, instead of voluntarily pleasing Krsna
or Visnu.
Once in Maha-Visnu's temporary
material world, they then "hire" a material bodily vessel from Him to
be a passenger in, "hired" from His "Library Of Dreams"
that transfers them to a temporary material bodily vessel and becomes its
passenger.
This is the beginning of the
individual jiva-soul's entry into the material world after leaving the
Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).
But such fall downs are very
rare, as said above, less than 10% of individual jiva-souls fall down from the
spiritual planets, most never choose to leave.
Rejecting Krsna means the
individual jiva-souls can no longer stay in the spiritual world and are
therefore instantly transferred out of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana,
and relocated to the dreams of Maha-Visnu, where they can "hire" a
particular material pathway made of material bodily vessels they enter as a
passenger.
The individual jiva-soul enters
(hires) a material bodily vessel's pathway that they journey on/in as its
passenger, that matches their desires that are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams
of the material world.
Within Maha-Visnu's dreams of the
material world, every possible "combination of matter" exists that
meets the individual jiva-souls needs that they desire for their journey
through the material world.
This includes the individual
jiva-soul's voluntary expression (free will) already factored into the equation
of their destiny within a particular material bodily vessel they have chosen to
enter as its passenger explained above.
Bhagavad-gītā As It Is Chapter
11 Text 7 - "O
Arjuna, whatever you wish to see, behold at once in this body of Mine! This
universal form can show you whatever you now desire to see and whatever you may
want to see in the future. Everything moving and non-moving is here completely,
in one place." (BG, Ch 11 Text 7)
Srila Prabhupada - "No one can see the entire
universe while sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot
see what is going on in other parts of the universe. But a devotee like Arjuna
can see everything that exists in any part of the universe. Kṛṣṇa gives him
the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by
the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, Arjuna is able to see everything." (BG, Ch 11
Text 7 Purport)
The great sages and devotees in
previous ages thousands of years ago were "tri-kāla-jñā." meaning
they could see all time, past, present and future, simultaneously or all at
once. This means the past and future as the fabric of time, always exists in
Maha-Visnu's material world.
The individual jiva-souls who
experience the journey through past, present and future housed as a passenger
in a material bodily vessel's pathway, are different from other individual
jiva-souls who also experienced that same journey through time on that same
pathway.
This means the "pathway of
material bodily vessels" are a permanent fixture in Maha-Visnu's dreams of
the material world which is also called Maha-Visnu's "block material
universe" as explained above.
Tri-kāla-jñā means three main
movements of time-
1 - What was in the past,
2 - What is at present.
3 - What shall happen in the
future,
Over five thousand years ago,
instructions from great Vedic sages were written down for this degraded age of
Kali-yuga (the age of hypocrisy and quarrel). The sages and devotees back then
could visit the past, the present, and the future and experience all these
three movements of happening simultaneously.
As said above, these sages were
known as "tri-kāla-jñā," tri means three. Tri is a Sanskrit word, and
three is a English or Latin word, both have the same meaning.
Tri-kāla-jñā means one can see
past, present and future simultaneously. Tri means three, and kāla means
time.
Material time is experienced
in three ways-
past,
present,
future.
Material time is the movement
along a material bodily vessel's pathway through past, present and future
called "linear time" as explained above.
Past, present and future only
exists in the temporary material world (decaying matter) and not in the
spiritual world (living anti-matter) where only the eternal presence of Krsna
exists.
In the spiritual world there is
no past or future, only the presence of "now" exists there. This
means nothing ever decays, nor do devotees experience birth, disease, old age
and death.
1 - Material time means past, present and future exist with the
side effects of birth, disease old age, death, decay, constant
maintenance.
2 - Spiritual time means the eternal presence of Krsna exists
which means there in no birth, disease old age, death, decay or maintenance.
The sages in those early days
before Kali-yuga were tri-kāla-jñā meaning they could understand, experience
and see all at once, what is in the past, what is at present and what is
happening in the future.
In the Bhagavad gītā As It Is
Kṛṣṇa says - "My
Dear Arjuna, you, Me, I, and all these kings and soldiers who have assembled in
this battlefield, they were all individuals, and we are still individual. And
in this past, in the future, we shall all remain individuals. That past,
present, and future, he explained. Another place Kṛṣṇa says, vedāhaṁ samatītāni
(BG 7.26). Atītāni, atītāni means past. Vartamānāni ca, "and
present." So that is yogic power, one can know past, present, and
future." (SB, Canto 12 Ch 2 text 1, San Francisco, March 18, 1968)
There is still a lot more to
learn about the movement of the individual jiva-souls on their journey in a
material bodily vessel as a passenger through material time's past, present and
future.
We have only scratched the
surface in understanding Vedic texts in the 61 years since Srila Prabhupada
began making his valuable contribution to the western world in 1965.
Unlike the spiritual world's
"eternal presence" of time (the eternal "now") where past
and future do not exist and only the "eternal presence" of Krsna
exists, the movement of material time in the temporary material world is
eternally divided into past, present and future which is a roadway that has its
beginning point (birth), middle (youth and middle age) and end (old age and
death).
This is only experienced by the
individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) while they are passengers in a
temporary material bodily vessel (decaying matter) in the material world that
is a pathway through past, present and future. This is the individual jiva-souls
journey, housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel, moving through the
temporary material world (the dreams of Maha-Visnu).
Temporary means the decaying
progression of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers
in, forced by the movement through material time's past, present and future and
experiencing its side effects of birth, youth, middle age, old age, death,
decay and the need for constant material maintenance.
Whereas in the spiritual world
there is only the forever "eternal presence of Krsna" where
everything is eternally fresh, youthful and never decomposes or fades away like
material vessels and all matter does in the material world.
In the spiritual world of the
Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), the individual
jiva-souls (devotees) are their spiritual bodily form, who no longer possess a
material bodily decaying covering or vessel they are in as a passenger within
Maha-Visnu's temporary material world.
All material bodily vessels or
bodily containers, are part of the decaying fabric of material energy within
the temporary material world, created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu for the
individual jiva-souls to be housed as passengers in. All decaying matter that
includes all material bodily vessels, take up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky.
The other 3/4s of the Spiritual
Sky are the permanent eternally youthful unlimited spiritual worlds (living
anti-matter) where individual spiritual personalities serve God within the
"eternal presence of Krsna," beyond the decaying influence of past,
present and future that causes birth, youth, middle age, old age and death of a
material bodily vessel the individual jiva-soul are the passenger in within the
temporary material world created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu.
The material world's
"temporary material bodily vessel's pathways" are made of decaying
matter that the individual jiva-souls are housed in as its passenger, confined
to the temporary material world created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu.
The individual jiva-souls travel
through the pathways of the temporary material world "housed" within
Maha-Visnu's dreams of material bodily vessels, as a passenger.
These material bodily containers
(decaying matter) confine the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) within
them, housed as a passenger. Such material bodily vessels are strictly under
the laws of material nature an experience birth, disease, old age, death within
Maha-Visnu's mundane material world.
Each material bodily vessel
(decaying matter) is made of material energy that the individual jiva-souls
(living anti-matter) travel in as a passenger, moving along/through material
time in its pathway of material bodily vessels.
In other words, the individual
jiva-souls are the temporary occupants or passengers housed on a pathway of
decaying material bodily containers moving through material time's past,
present and future, just like viewing the frame by frame by frame on a film
canister that remains after watching the movie (after moving through material
time)
Technically "material dead
energy" is dead because it is devoid of housing any individual jiva-souls
(living units of anti-matter) is an all-one, all pervasive lifeless energy that
houses the individual jiva-souls as a passenger in a material bodily
vessel.
In other words, the individual
jiva-souls housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel in the material
world, are covered by material energy in the form of a material bodily vessel
once they enter the temporary material world created by Maha-Visnu.
This means all material bodily
forms (decaying matter) that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are
housed as passengers in, means they are not those material bodily vessels they
are passengers in, which are also pathways the individual jiva-souls pass
through/on/as a passenger through Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material
world.
The individual jiva-souls
(living anti-matter) are the traveller on that pathway of material bodily
vessels (decaying matter), this is called the block material
universe.
All material bodily vessels the
individual jiva-souls are housed in as a passengers, move under linear time
which means they experience moving in one direction along that pathway of
material bodily vessels.
In this way, because of linear
time means moving forward, the individual jiva-souls housed as the passenger in
a material bodily vessel, experience birth, youth, getting old and experiencing
forgetfulness as the material body they are in as the passenger, breaks down,
decomposes and wears out, and eventually becoming unfit for the individual
jiva-souls to occupy.
Matter (decaying material
energy) in the material world, under the view of linear-time, eventually breaks
down to dust and fossils then merges back into the "oneness" of
material energy (lifeless matter).
All material bodily vessels are
ultimately impersonal decaying matter when no longer possessed by the presence
of life (individual jiva-souls)
The individual jiva-souls (living
individual units of anti-matter) enter a material bodily container however, the
movement of ever material bodily vessel is caused by Maha-Visnu through His
dreams.
Only the presence of the
individual jiva-soul (living anti-matter) gives the appearance of
"life" in the material world, giving all material bodily vessels to
appear as alive when in fact only the individual jiva-souls housed in the
material body as passengers is the only life.
Of course there are millions of
individual jiva-souls in a material bodily vessel as different species within
cells, bacteria, viruses, stomach acids, mouth, on skin and in stool with a prominent
individual jiva-soul being the main one who has the most control over the
material body.
The material bodily vessel is
seen as moving and alive however, it only appears that way because of the
presence of the individual jiva-souls within the material bodily vessels as the
passenger explained above.
As said above, the individual
jiva-souls are living personalities of anti-matter, as an eternal spiritual
bodily form in the spiritual world, but covered in the material world by a
temporary decaying material bodily vessel.
1 - "Matter" is lifeless dead energy in the material
world that is what all material bodily vessels that the individual jiva-souls
are passengers in, are made of.
2 - "Anti-matter" is Krsna the Supreme Personality of
Godhead and His Visnu-tattva expansions who are individual persons, and
simultaneously all-pervasive (all-one) with both the spiritual and material
worlds, and Krsna’s minor separated expansions known as the marginal living
entities (the individual jiva-souls).
The individual spiritual unit's
(individual jiva-soul) full potential is in the spiritual world which is their
natural home and origin, in fact all life comes from the spiritual world
meaning no life originates from the material world, the Body of Maha-Visnu, or
the impersonal brahmajyoti where individual dormant (inactive) jiva-souls in
their fallen condition artificially appearing as a "spiritual individual
spark" (not all-pervasive) appearing as a collective effulgence
surrounding Krsna's spiritual Bodily Form.
The Vaikuntha planets and
Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) are the natural home and eternal
position of all individual jiva-souls where they live as an eternal spiritual
bodily form in a place where everything is alive and never decays like mundane
matter in the material world does.
Material energy (lifeless matter)
does not exist in the spiritual world (everything as individual units of
anti-matter), this means all material bodily vessels (decaying matter) do not
exist in the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana
(The Kingdom of God), they can only exist in the temporary material world
created by Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu.
The individual jiva-souls are
living personalities of anti-matter, whereas the material energy has no life,
it is simply dead matter that the individual jiva-souls in the material world
are confined too housed as a passenger, giving the appearance the material
bodily vessels are living, no, it it the individual life inside them that is
living.
The individual jiva-souls
(living anti-matter as a unique eternal individual spiritual bodily form) who
choose to enter the mundane material world by leaving the spiritual world of
the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), become
covered as a passenger housed in a temporary material bodily vessel (decaying
matter) that contains (hides) their spiritual bodily identity.
All material bodily vessels in
the material world are "hired" off Maha-Visnu provided to the
individual jiva-souls to be passengers in, so they can pursue their desires to
try and enjoy separately from Krsna.
All material bodily vessels and
their pathways through the material world originate from Maha-Visnu's Library
of Unlimited Dreams that simultaneously match the desires of the individual
jiva-souls, and are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams that covers every
combination, scenario and desires the individual jiva-souls have.
The individual jiva-soul housed
in a material bodily vessel as a passenger, continues their journey through the
material world life after life in different material bodily container's
pathways always as the passenger.
The material bodily vessel can
also be achieved from the accumulation of the reactions (karma) from acting out
their desires in the human bodily form, creating pious and impious reactions
however, only in a human material bodily form does the individual jiva-souls
create Karma (due to free will) and not in the lower species of life where free
will does not exist and only material bodily instincts exist.
There is no Karma for the
individual jiva-souls in the lower species of life (8 million different
species) where each species of life acts only on the instincts of eating,
sleeping, mating and defending and not free will only found in the humans
species.
From the viewpoint of Maha-Visnu
and the great sages and devotee's of Krsna/Visnu, they can see past, present
and future in the material world all existing simultaneously, just like from
above a roadway, one can see the beginning, middle and end of that roadway all
at once.
Similarly, from seeing above
the movement of progressing through material time's, past, present and future,
frame by frame like on a film canister, one can see that the individual
jiva-souls are housed on a journey as the passenger in a material bodily vessel's
pathway that belongs to Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the His temporary material
world.
Maha-Visnu's "hired
out" dream pathways of unlimited material bodily containers, are created
by Him to give facilities and purpose to those individual jiva-souls to be
passengers in, who choose to leave the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets
and Goloka-Vrindavana, and instead enter Maha-Visnu's material world made up of
His dreams that includes all material bodily vessels and their pathways through
material time the individual jiva-souls enter as the passenger.
Because material energy is
eternal, it is possible that the material desires of an individual jiva-soul
who remains in the temporary material world long enough, to eventually come to
a point over that endless span of eternity, to repeat their existence in the
material world.
Such a bizarre jurisdiction in
the temporary material world usually is part of Lord Siva's interest who also
wants to save these lost individual jiva-souls trapped in eternally repeating
their existence in the mundane material world.
Remember, the always changing
material energy (lifeless energy) that covers the individual jiva-souls (living
individual units of anti-matter) with a material bodily vessel, is eternal,
this means the "decaying matter" that makes up the material world and
always material bodily containers is "all-one all-pervasive lifeless
energy" that has no beginning or end, and always exists as 25% of Krsna’s
Spiritual Sky called Maha-Visnu's material creation.
Every possible outcome that the
individual jiva-souls can dream up over eternity exists within the dreams of
Maha-Visnu. As said above, this means every combination of material elements
would be exhausted to the point they would again repeat themselves over that
eternity if an individual jiva-soul foolishly stays in the material world long
enough.
In other words, if the individual
jiva-souls who choose to remain in the material world for an almost eternity,
it is possible for them to experience this phenomenon because the individual
jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are also eternal living entities without
beginning or end.
So what is really going on?
Even though the material energy
is temporary, where all material bodily vessels that houses the individual
jiva-souls as the passenger, are always in a constant state of decay and
decline, in need of endless maintenance due to the influence of material time's
past, present and future, this impersonal material time is constantly
rearranging its composition of material energy, changing its appearance and
always on the move that houses the individual jiva-souls in material bodily
vessels that all belong to the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
In this way, the material bodily
vessels that houses the individual jiva-souls, are within those material bodily
container as its passenger and are clearly not the material body.
When the material bodily vessel
decay and destroyed at the end of its linear time through its journey over
past, present and future, the individual jiva-souls within are released due to
the material vessel they are in wears out and becomes unit to occupy as its
passenger any more, and moves on to another suitable material bodily vessel and
its pathway however, the decaying material energy only changes and never
disappears.
Under the block material universe
viewpoint, one can see above flowing through material time's past, present and
future, just like one can see the beginning, middle and end of a roadway all at
the same time.
Experiencing linear time's past,
present and future is only in the material world, where individual jiva-soul
are housed in a material bodily vessel as the passenger, experiencing the
material journey through birth, youth, middle age, old age and death, which are
the dreams of Maha-Visnu in His material world.
From a higher viewpoint, above
the influence of material mundane time, all material bodily pathways moving
through past, present and future, all existing simultaneously in Maha-Visnu's
dreams of the material world known as the block material universe.
The individual jiva-souls pass
through those pathways made of material bodily vessels like one passes along an
already made roadway.
Many have asked, could the all
activities of a material bodily vessel one chooses from Maha-Visnu's dreams to
occupy as the passenger, continuously happen in the material universe
with another group of individual jiva-souls playing that same part also moving
along through material time?
The answer is yes, in fact that
is exactly what's going on.
This is because past, present
and future are always there happening simultaneously as the permanent fixture
in the fabric of material time.
This means all material bodily
vessels occupied by the individual jiva-souls as its passenger, are a permanent
fixture of the material energy, like a roadway is a permanent pathway through a
city, or like seeing the frame after frame on a movie camera reel always
existing after one views them.
Many individual jiva-souls travel
on that same roadway of material bodily vessels, along that same pathway of
material bodily containers moving through past, present and future in
Maha-Visnu's material world, experiencing the same journey in the material
world in those material bodily vessels others have also travelled in/through.
This is the real meaning of
what the block material universe is.
Lord Brahma's material bodily
vessel is also a "hired" position or post in the material world that
many individual jiva-souls can experience if they are qualified to enter that
material bodily vessel or post.
All material bodily vessels the
individual jiva-souls are passengers in, are "hired" from Maha-Visnu
(God) from His vast dreams.
This further means those
individual jiva-souls with the right qualifications can experience any material
bodily vessel they desire, but only if they deserve it.
To enter a material bodily vessel
as a traveller on a journey through the temporary material world, all
individual jiva-soul must first qualify to enter a particular material bodily
vessel created by Maha-Visnu as its passenger that is in-sync with their own
desires.
This also takes into account
karma, which means one's past good and bad actions will force one to accept a
material bodily vessel they deserve out of 8 million 400 thousand species in
the material world.
The individual jiva-souls must
always be qualified to enter a particular material bodily vessel, pious or
impious, or any material bodily container they choose to be its passenger,
based on what they deserve, desire, rewarded with and punished with.
Once in the material world after
leaving the spiritual world, the individual jiva-souls must eventually
"hire" a material bodily vessel from Maha-Visnu's dreams that
simultaneously match their own desires or karma (the results of past good and bad
deeds if they are already in the material world).
The material bodily vessel's
pathway the individual jiva-souls are passengers in/on, are a permanent fixture
in the material energy that moves through past, present and future. This means
every step along the pathway of material bodily containers exists eternally as
Maha-Visnu's block material universe that the individual jiva-souls journey on
through the material world on that pathway of material bodily vessels as the
passenger.
The material bodily vessels
are not living persons, they are decaying lifeless containers that unlimited
individual jiva-souls occupy within bacteria, viruses, bugs, cells etc used as
a vehicle by them where one individual jiva-soul is the prominent passenger in
that material container.
The prominent living individual
person in those decaying material bodily containers only have the intelligence
to advance in spiritual life and return back home back to Godhead.
All other individual jiva-souls
also living in the various material bodily parts, are trapped in the lower
species confined to the material bodies of various bugs, cells, stool, blood,
brain substance etc that are also in the material bodily vessel.
The individual jiva-soul (living
individual units of anti-matter) originated from their real home in the
spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of
God).
The material bodily vessel is
made of material elements (decaying matter) that the individual jiva-souls
(living anti-matter) are covered by and travels in as a passenger while
confined to the temporary material world.
As said above, the individual
jiva-soul (living anti-matter) is the real individual person as a eternal
spiritual bodily form, and not the material bodily vessel which is a decaying
container that only carries the individual jiva-souls as its passenger.
All a material bodily vessels or
containers are not a living person, they are a decaying coverings or containers
made of material energy that house the eternal individual jiva-soul in it as
the passenger.
The fact is, as said above, every
cell within the material bodily vessel also houses an individual jiva-soul
however, their consciousness is not developed and rank among the lower almost
inactive species, unlike the prominent individual jiva-soul whose intelligence
is on the human platform and stand out individual jiva-soul "housed"
in that material bodily vessel.
So, who really are the famous and
infamous personalities like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Winston Churchill,
John Kennedy etc.?
Actually the answer is no-one
because each material bodily vessel that the individual jiva-souls are in as
its passenger, are not a living individual person at all, it is a decaying
material container made of temporary material energy that is occupied by the
individual jiva-souls housed as the a passenger.
All material bodily vessel's
pathways are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world
and always remain His property and not the property of the individual
jiva-souls who are in them as passenger.
The fact is, it is possible that
any individual jiva-soul, as long as they qualify, can experience the material
bodily vessel of a Hitler, or Stalin, Churchill etc., or a material bodily
vessel similar if desired, deserved and qualified to enter.
This means over eternity, many
individual jiva-souls have also travelled those same pathways of material
bodily vessels which are a permanent fixture within the dreams of Maha-Visnu's
material world.
The dreams of Maha-Visnu are also
called the "block material universe" which means past, present and
future always exist as a movement of material bodily vessels existing through
every stage of all material time with different individual jiva-souls passing
through those pathways as the passenger of those material bodily vessels.
In fact as explained above, an
unlimited number of individual jiva-souls experience those material bodily
pathways of the rich, famous and infamous whose material bodily vessels they
occupy as its passenger, are a permanent fixtures in the fabric of time that
moves on a journey through past, present and future in the material
world.
All material bodily pathways
(vessels) are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, just like one reads a
"loaned-out" book in a Library that is always available to others for
loan also similarly, Maha-Visnu's "Library of material dreams"
are available to every individual jiva-soul who choose to enter the material
world.
As explained, each material
bodily pathway (decaying material bodily vessel) the individual jiva-souls are
on as a passenger, are from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
Maha-Visnu's dreams, that
includes all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are housed in as
the passenger, are a permanent fixture within His material energies.
Within Maha-Visnu's dreams of the
material world, exists unlimited material bodily vehicles for the individual
jiva-souls to travel in as the passenger however, no individual jiva-souls are
created by Maha-Visnu, or come from His material world, or the impersonal
inactive brahmajyoti, they all enter His material world after leaving the
spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
However, as explained
above, only less than 10% of individual jiva-souls voluntarily choose to leave
the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the
Kingdom of God) and enter the temporary material world (decaying matter) where
they "hire" a material bodily vessel and its pathway (made of
material bodies) from Maha-Visnu's "dreams" and simultaneously
experience their own dreams (desires) that are in sync with Maha-Visnu's
dreams.
In other words, the material
bodily vessel (decaying matter) that houses the individual jiva-soul as a
passenger, is not a living spiritual person, it is a decaying material
container that contains the individual jiva-soul within it. The individual
jiva-soul in their full potential, is an eternal spiritual bodily form whose
eternal natural original home is the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets
and Goloka-Vrindavana.
Kṛṣṇa and all of His various
expansions (both Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva) are the individual life-force
that eternally exists in the spiritual world, but also enters the decaying
material world.
The material bodily vessel
(decaying matter) is the outer material covering that houses the individual
jiva-souls (living anti-matter) as a passenger on a journey through the
temporary material world that are the dreams of the sleeping Maha-Visnu.
The
individual living person (individual jiva-soul) are in each material bodily
vessel and its pathway as a passenger within the decaying material world, they
can enter 8 million 400 thousand different material bodily forms (species) in
the temporary material world.
The individual jiva-souls
(eternal living individual units of anti-matter) are housed within material
bodily decaying containers. The individual jiva-souls are not these material
bodily vessels they travel in through the material world.
The individual jiva-souls
original home and position is in the spiritual world where everything is living
as individual units of anti-matter.
However, Krsna the Supreme
Personality of Godhead and His direct expansions are both an individual Person
as a spiritual Bodily Form, and the "all-pervasive" God existing
everywhere, which means He is seen as one and everything simultaneously.
This means Krsna, His
Visnu-tattva expansions and the individual jiva-souls (all anti-material
beings) are not from the temporary decaying material world, the impersonal
inactive brahmajyoti, or from the Body of Maha-Visnu, the latter being a direct
expansion of Kṛṣṇa who creates the decaying lifeless material world.
All life that enters the decaying
material world (dead matter), comes from the spiritual world (living
anti-matter).
In the material world, all
material bodily vessels and their pathways through past, present and future,
house the individual jiva-souls as the passenger. They are not those material
bodily vessels.
It is important to understand
that the individual jiva-souls (eternal living individual units of anti-matter)
original and natural home is the spiritual world (the Vaikuntha planets and
Goloka-Vrindavana) that are beyond the mundane decaying lifeless material
world.
In the material world the
individual jiva-souls live as a passenger contained in a temporary material
bodily vessel that belongs to Maha-Visnu who dreams the material world. All
material bodily containers are "hired" from Him.
In the temporary material world,
the individual jiva-souls who chose to leave the spiritual world, must go to
Maha-Visnu and "hire" from Him a suitable material bodily vessel and
its pathway.
Maha-Visnu dreams His material
world, and those individual jiva-souls who choose to enter, receives a material
bodily vessel from His dreams that is in sync with their own desires.
All material bodily vessels and
their pathways are "hired" to the individual jiva-souls by
Maha-Visnu, so they can begin their journey through the temporary material
world.
The individual jiva-souls
"hire" a material bodily container off Maha-Visnu and became its
passenger because they have rejected serving Krsna and Visnu in the spiritual
world (The Kingdom of God).
Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this
body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired"
from the Supreme Lord (Maha-Visnu). This is very subtle understanding; one
should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York
City).
Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu
creates the material world (decaying matter) including all temporary material
bodily vessels and their pathways that the individual jiva-souls are passengers
in/on while outside of the spiritual world (living anti-matter) and now living
in the material world.
Maha-Visnu’s "Library of
unlimited pathways of material bodily vessels" (decaying matter) are what
the individual jiva-souls (eternally living individual units of anti-matter)
are passengers in/on within the mundane temporary material world.
Also known as the "block
material universe" it functions like a "Universal Library" that
"houses" unlimited pathways of material bodily vessels that the
individual jiva-souls are passengers in while in the material world creation of
Maha-Visnu.
All material bodily movements,
events, and moments, from the beginning of each material bodies pathway, to its
middle and end, already exists at every point along that pathway moving through
past, present and future, fixed within the material block universal dream of
Maha-Visnu.
The "block material
universe" is "all" (everything there is) that exists within
Maha-Visnu's dreams of His material world, meaning, as said above, all past,
present and future always exist together and are simultaneously occurring at the
same time.
This means Maha-Visnu and any
individual jiva-soul he allows due to desire and qualification (karma), can see
"everything" (past, present and future) from above the movement of
material time, just like from above a long roadway, one can see its beginning,
middle and end, or one can view again and again the frame by frame of a movie
film.
So, who are these material bodily
vessels (persons) known as Hitler, Stalin, Churchill etc? Are those material
bodily forms the real living persons?
No, they are just a decaying dead
material bodily vessels who an individual jiva-soul (living anti-matter) is
occupying as the passenger, meaning they are NOT that material bodily vessel
(decaying matter) they are in.
The point made here is to clearly
understand that the individual jiva-souls (living eternal anti-matter), are not
the material bodily decaying vessels (decaying matter) they occupy as its
passenger as they move through the pathway's of material bodily vessels in
material world.
This is a little complicated to
understand, but just like one wears many different suits, similarly the
individual jiva-souls, over millions of life times, wears millions of different
material bodily vessels like one wears those many suits.
All individual jiva-souls have
worn millions of different material bodily vessels (costumes) based on their
desires and karma.
All material bodily vessels in
the material world that the visiting individual jiva-souls are in and
experience, are achieved by desire and the reactions to their good and bad
actions (karma) while confined to a human material bodily form as its passenger.
The none-human lower species of
material bodily forms are not subject to karma because they cannot
express free will, all lower species of life (8 million) are controlled by the
instincts of eating, sleeping, mating and defending.
As explained earlier, all
material bodily vessels (matter) are "hired" from the dreams of
Maha-Visnu by the visiting individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter)
This also means that an unlimited
number of individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) have travelled through the
movement of eternal time in the material world (past, present and future), have
experienced those exact same permanent material bodily pathways made of an
array of material bodily vessels (decaying matter) just like each frame on a
film canister is always their to watch again and again.
The important point to understand
is that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are not the material
bodily vessel (decaying matter) they are housed in as its passenger.
And, as explained above, this
so called eternal reoccurrence is not what is really going on in the material
world at all, there is no such thing as "eternal reoccurrence"
because as explained above, all material bodily pathways are a permanent fixture
existing eternally in the already dreamed dreams of Maha-Visnu.
What is really happening is each
moment through material time's past, present and future is always there and
never fades way just like each frame on a movie film is always there after
watching the film.
In this way, the material bodily
pathway travelled on by the individual jiva-souls, eternally remains after
passing through it, always there for other individual jiva-souls to also travel
on as the passenger in a material bodily vessel.
In other words, this permanent
pathway of material bodily vessels are always existing for other individual
jiva-souls pass to along/through on their journey in the material
world.
All "hired" material
bodily vessels in Maha-Visnu's dreams always exist as a progressive roadway
that the individual jiva-souls journey along/through as its passenger. The
pathway of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls journey in as its
passenger, move along the movement of past, present and future confined in a
material bodily vessels that is a eternal feature of the material world's
space-time.
Lifeless material energy is the
eternal fabric of space-time in the material world that also perpetually exists
as material bodily vessel pathways (as material bodily vessels) where the
individual jiva-souls travel through as the passenger.
In this way as said above, all
material bodily vessels (decaying matter) in Maha-Visnu's material world, are a
permanent fixture that always exist as a pathway for the individual jiva-souls
to travel in as a passenger, moving through past, to present to future, just
like the different stages on roadway always remains after one travels on it, or
each frame on a movie film can be watched over and over again.
In other words, the individual
jiva-souls experience past, present and future as a pathway moving from birth,
to youth, to middle age, to old age and death as the passenger on that pathway
of material bodily vessel that always exist after being passed through.
This journey through all material
pathways that the individual jiva-souls take as a passenger, are continuously
occupied by other individual jiva-souls who also choose the same journey of
existence in a material bodily vessel along the pathway of past, present and
future in the material world.
This is just like driving a
vehicle on an already built and established roadway, where one experiencing its
beginning, middle and end. However, like all roadways, it always remains as a
roadway for others to also drive on it.
Therefore, it only appears that
the material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are in as a passenger,
are continually reoccurring when in actual fact, that is not what is going as
explained above.
As said above, all material
bodily vessels or pathways, are an established permanent fixed stream of
material bodily vessels moving through/along material time's past, present and
future.
The individual jiva-souls move
through/along this pathway as a passenger, also known as the block material
universe, means the realities of past, present and future all exists
simultaneously.
In other words, the individual
jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are the passengers on a permanent pathway of
material energy made of material bodily vessels (decaying matter) moving along
a host of material bodily vessels through the material energies past, present
and future, that all continue to always exist as a eternal pathway after the
individual jiva-souls pass through them as the passenger.
The moving fabric of unlimited
pathways of material bodily containers on a journey through the roadway of
material time's past, present and future, is made of dead material energy
(decaying matter), travelled in by the individual jiva-souls (living individual
units of anti-matter) as the passenger.
The individual jiva-souls are not
the material bodily vessel pathways but rather its living passenger within, who
are confined to the material world's fabric of temporary decaying material
energy.
All material bodily pathways
made up of material bodily vessels, exist eternally in Mahā-Viṣṇu's dreams as
roadway's within His material creation for those individual jiva-souls who
choose to enter the temporary material world, to enter as the passenger in
those material bodily containers.
Everything is temporary in the
material world because it is always in a constant state of constant
maintenance, decline and decay experienced by the individual jiva-souls
confined to a temporary material bodily vessel as its passenger who moves along
that pathway of material bodily vessels through past, present and future in the
material world.
The movement of past, present
and future has the side effect of impermanence, decomposition, birth, youth,
disease, old age and death.
In the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha
planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, only the "eternal presence of Krsna"
exists, meaning there is no concept of past or future existing like in the
material world, therefore in the spiritual world there is no impermanence,
decline, decay birth and death there.
This means everything there is
eternally fresh and youthful in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana
(the spiritual world) that are the eternal Kingdoms of God.
Temporary material energy makes
up all material bodily vessels or containers (matter) that the individual
jiva-souls (anti-matter) enters as a passenger (covered by) in the material
world.
When these material bodily
vessels wears out and decays, they break down into material elements and merges
again back into the oneness of lifeless material energy (matter).
Only when the individual
jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are no longer covered by a decaying material
bodily vessel (decaying matter), know that their real perpetual spiritual
bodily form and identity (living anti-matter) never ages, decays dies or takes
birth like a mundane material bodily vessel does they are the passenger in.
The individual jiva-souls
(anti-matter) eternally remain an individual spiritual person always separate
from the mundane material bodily containers they occupy as its passenger.
The individual jiva-souls
(living anti-matter) are covered in the material world by a decaying temporary
material bodily vessel (matter) that is part of the lifeless material
energy.
Unlike the spiritual world's
Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana where the "eternal presence"
of Krsna eternally exists, where past and future have no meaning, the mundane
material world's concept of time is governed by past, present and future, but
exists all at the same time to those who can see from above the mundane
movement material time that are the dreams of Maha-Visnu that He always knows.
All material bodily vessels (made
from decaying material energy) are occupied by the individual jiva-souls
(living anti-matter), such decaying material bodily vessels are a
permanent fixture of the material energies moving along frame by frame on the
pathway of past, present and future owned by Maha-Visnu like the frames on a
movie film (canister).
Such material vessels originate
from Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material universe that are eternally existing
with the continuous flow of material bodily vessels moving on the pathway of
material time's past, present and future also known as the "block material
universe."
All material bodily vessels of
all shapes and sizes exist within Maha-Visnu's "Library Of Material
Dreams," they and are available for "hire" to those
individual jiva-souls who have chosen to visit His material world after
choosing to leave the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and
Goloka-Vrindavana.
The constant movement of
travelling through material time's past, present and future in a sequence of
material bodily vessels is like watching frame after frame after frame on a
movie film. This means there is no repetition or eternal reoccurrence going on
in Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world.
The individual jiva-souls in
the material world are "housed" in material bodily vessels as the
passenger, experiencing this pathway through the material world’s dimension of
time (past, present and future) is like viewing frame after frame on a Movie
film that always exist together on the same reel of film that can be watched again and again (this
is describing Maha-Visnu’s “block” material universe).
In this way, there is only the
constant movement of individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) travelling in
material bodily vessels (decaying matter) as passengers on that permanent
roadway that eternally exists in Maha-Visnu's dreams for any individual
jiva-soul to also travel on/through.
Only by properly understanding
the fabric of material time can we see each stage of the journey of past,
present and future. In other words, past, present and future eternally exist
together, all at the same time. As said above this is what the terminology
"block material universe" means.
Srila Prabhupada always
encouraged us to have personal realizations and yes, the ones here are thought
provoking because they are based on Vedic teachings.
Keep in mind, the
"dreams" of Maha-Visnu are almost inconceivable to understand, even
when Arjuna viewed past, present and future simultaneously and being able to
see everything (past, present and future), he was scared and confused because
he was seeing his own future and the future of his family.
The reason he could see his
future was because it was already existing like an entire roadway from its
beginning, to its middle and at its end.
Each dream of Maha-Visnu is
always existing like a pathway that the individual jiva-souls traverse down (as
explained above) This means the individual jiva-souls are traveling through a
material bodily pathway that is already there, what has always existed.
Another way of understanding this
is just like when one rewinds a video tape, the contends captured will always
be the same at every stage on the tape.
Similarly, the material bodily
vessels we are now in, belongs to Maha-Visnu's material world always and like a
library book hired out again and again, also exists for other individual
jiva-souls who choose to leave the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets
and Goloka-Vrindavana, to enter and experience.
This means material time's past,
present and future is a permanent fixture eternally recorded as the dreams of
Maha-Visnu and always exists as the "block material universe."
This also means we take our next
birth in a material bodily vessel that already eternally exists in either a
past, present or future time zone, where the individual jiva-soul as the
passenger on that material pathway of material bodily vessels moves though the
stages of past, present and future, experiencing each moment as the
"present" (now), meaning the material bodily birth, childhood, youth,
middle age, old age, death the individual jiva-soul is experiencing is due to
moving through the pathway of material bodily containers that are part of the
material world (decaying matter) unlike the individual jiva-souls (living
anti-matter) who are the passengers.
That further means when we choose
a material bodily vessel, the pathway in its different stages of childhood,
youth, middle age, old age etc. of that material body, already exists in its
different time zones (past, present and future) because each material body's
pathway is a permanent fixture of this material universe known as the
maha-tattva manifestation (material creation) of Maha-Visnu's dreams of the
material world (also known as the block material universe)
The individual jiva-souls have
their own full expression of individual self based on free will, having a
strong sense of an independent self where they eternally make their own
decisions and choices that Krsna allows to create diversity and a two-sided relationship
of loving voluntary exchanges without any dictatorial forceful manipulation
from Krsna, or Maha-Visnu.
The latter (Maha-Visnu) creates
the material bodily pathways for the individual jiva-souls to travel on/in
while in His material world.
What we are learning here, is the
'dreams' of Maha-Visnu are all happening eternally in the "present - at
the same time" which means past, present and future all exist
simultaneously that allows the individual jiva-souls "housed as the passenger"
in those material bodily vessels, to move along those material bodily pathways
as they move through material time's, past, present and future.
The dreams of Maha-Visnu, that
include material bodily vessel pathways made of matter that house the
individual jiva-souls as the passenger, are an eternal fixture of the material
world within Maha-Visnu's dreams when seen above the restriction or movement of
material time's past, present and future.
However, due to all material
bodily vessels moving through time's past, present and future, each material
bodily vessel the individual jiva-souls are contained in as the passenger,
experience the continuous decaying side of the material world due to the divisions
of material mundane time's past, present and future.
This does not exist in the
spiritual world where only the eternal presence of Krsna only exists meaning
everything there is ever fresh, youthful and never decays.
The material energy (dead matter
without the presents of life, the individual jiva-soul) in the material world
is "all-one" lifeless matter that also manifests as a material bodily
vessel that houses the individual jiva-souls as a passenger.
The individual jiva-souls (living
anti-matter) are not from or part of the decaying material world, they are
individual persons whose real home and origin is the spiritual worlds of the
Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
This is important to understand
as there are many nonsense impersonalists (mayavadis) who believe there is an
"all-one" pervasive life force behind everything. They foolishly
believe that when a material bodily vessel dies, the life force within that
material bodily vessel, merges back into the "one life force" just
like when air is released from a container, it merges back into the oneness of
the air around us.
This nonsense philosophy is
called mayavadi impersonalism, this idea is wrong and dangerous and to a
Vaisnava devotee of Kṛṣṇa, is committing spiritual suicide for those who follow
or even hear such dangerous mayavadi teachings.
So, to be clear, in the material
world everything in under the movement of Maha-Visnu's dreaming of material
time's past, present and future, where each material bodily vessel's pathway is
a long winding roadway moving through the material world.
This means the pathway or roadway
of the material bodily vessels, both gross or subtle, that the individual
jiva-souls are housed in as the passenger, is like a roadway eternally from
Maha-Visnu's dreams.
This means there are unlimited
pathways already carved out, based on desire and karma for the individual
jiva-souls to be passengers in, on their journey through Maha-Visnu's decaying
material world.
In other words, one who worships
the rich and famous can take birth in those material bodily vessels they admire
housed as the passenger, after being trained up and qualified to take that
birth, which can take many, many, many births just to have the qualifications
to be in that famous "material bodily vessel" as the passenger for
one insignificant life time, such as famous people in 1960s/70s like John F Kennedy, Timothy
Leary, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison, Elvis Presley, Bill Gates etc.
What an ignorant selfish waste of
time compared to just choosing to return home back to Godhead and be in either
the Vaikuntha planets, or Goloka-Vrindavana, which are the individual
jiva-soul's real spiritual home and original position.
If those individual jiva-souls
housed in a decaying material bodily container, knew what they had to go
through to attain that famous wealthy materialistic bodily vessel they have
desired, they would have second thoughts about seeking material fame and wealth
on this mundane planet and within the material heavenly planets too.
All material bodily vessels in
the material creation must be deserved first, allowing the individual
jiva-souls who are qualified to enter and experience that temporary existence
in the material world.
Also, it is known that usually
the most pious individual jiva-soul in each material universe (Brahmanda) takes
up the "post" of Lord Brahma when the next Brahmanda material
universe manifests from the breathing and pours of the sleeping Maha-Visnu.
In the same way; we are all
awarded with a material bodily vessel according to our past pious and impious
activities too, known as karmic reactions.
All individual jiva-souls
"housed" in a material bodily vessel, are contained in material
energies fabric of space-time, moving through the material stages of past,
present and future, within the pathway of each material bodily vessel they are in
as the passenger.
However, seeing from above the
movement of material time's past, present and future, just like seeing the
entire journey of a roadway from above, one can see the entire journey of the
material bodily vessel they are a passenger in, its beginning, middle and end,
all at once. This is also known as Mahā-Viṣṇu's block material universe.
This means "materially"
one can see all past, present and future existing together simultaneously,
seeing every twist and turn on the pathway of material time.
The explanation in the above
essay is correctly explaining that all material bodily vessels within
Maha-Visnu's dreams that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, are a
"permanent" fixture of material bodily pathways (real but temporary)
that eternally exist within the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
As said above, this may give the
impression of eternal repetition but no, the material universe is in a constant
state that is above the movement of past, present and future that the
jiva-souls only experience by moving or flowing through the material energy
existence of the fabric of past, present and future.
In other words, moving along
material time's pathway of twists and turns, is how the individual jiva-soul
experience the material bodily container they are housed in, birth, childhood,
youth, middle age, old age and death.
This birth, youth, middle age and
death does not eternally repeat itself, what is really going on is each
material bodily pathway is a permanent fixture of the material world, the
time's past, present and future are continuously existing where the individual
jiva-souls simply passing through/along as the passenger on/in that material
bodily vessel's pathway.
In other words, what is seen from
above, the entire roadway from its beginning, middle and end, is experiencing
the movement of material time's past, present and future which are Maha-Visnu's
dreams and all exist simultaneously as the block universe.
Therefore, the dreams of
Maha-Visnu are the material bodily vessel's pathways made of material bodies
(decaying matter) where the individual jiva-souls as its passenger, travel
through the fabric of material energy's space-time's past, present and future.
These bodily vessel pathways are
always available for "hire" to those individual jiva-souls (living
anti-matter) who choose to enter Maha-Visnu's material world after leaving the
spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
Within Maha-Visnu's dreams, all
past, present and future exist simultaneously that even some very rare devotees
of Krsna and yogis can also see.
So, there is a constant movement
of the individual jiva-souls, who are "housed" in a material bodily
vessel's pathway, travelling through material time's past, present and future
along that permanent pathway made of material bodily vessels, like a roadway's
beginning, middle and end, through birth, disease, old age and death.
This pathway or roadway is always
available for others individual jiva-souls to travel through/along, which is
permanent fixture of within the material energy coming from Maha-Visnu's
dreaming of the material world, and experienced by those individual jiva-souls
who "hire" a material bodily vessel's pathway to be the passenger
in.
Modern science cannot understand
the material universe in this way where time travel is always possible but only
in this way explained above known as Mahā-Viṣṇu's the block material universe.
Everything in the material world
is dead matter and a permanent fixture of Maha-Visnu's dreaming. No individual
life comes from the material world (dead matter).
The individual jiva-souls (living
individual units of anti-matter) can only enter the material world from the
spiritual world known as the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and then
pass through the material world's array of material bodily vessel's pathways as
a passenger.
The "roadways or
pathways" of time's "past, present and future" never disappear
as explained above, they always exist as a permanent fixture within the fabric
of the material world (decaying matter) that the visiting individual jiva-souls
(living anti-matter) can travel through in.
The material bodily vessel's
pathways that the individual jiva-souls are in/on as the passenger, are always
the property of Maha-Visnu's dreams that are "hired" out to those
individual jiva-soul who choose to leave the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha
planets of Visnu/Narayana, or Krsna's central Abode of Goloka-Vrindavana. Such
material bodily pathways always remain Maha-Visnu's property existing as His
dreams of the material world.
Each material bodily vessel's
pathway is continuously available for other individual jiva-souls to also
travel through/on, to experience their desires separate from Krsna's spiritual
world.
Experiencing any desire without Kṛṣṇa,
can only be achieved in the temporary material world within the dreaming
creations of Maha-Visnu.
In Maha-Visnu's dreams of the
material world, every scenario conceivable is possible and exists for
"hire" to any visiting individual jiva-soul who falls from the
spiritual world and foolishly enters Maha-Visnu's material world and seek out
their selfish desires to be powerful, rich and famous without Kṛṣṇa.
Hiring "material
dreams" off Maha-Visnu are similar to visiting a "costume shop"
that is full of different costumes (material bodily pathways) that the
individual jiva-soul can choose to enter/travel/on/in.
Every individual jiva-soul who
enters the material world must go to Maha-Visnu's "Costume Shop"
(Dress Shop) to attain a suitable material bodily vessel and its pathway from
the dreams of the sleeping Maha-Visnu.
The individual jiva-souls who
have chosen to enter Maha-Visnu's material world after falling from the
spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, must choose a
material bodily vessel they "hire" in their attempt to enjoy separate
from Krsna in the temporary material world.
This is where the individual
jiva-souls are offered a particular material bodily vessel by Maha-Visnu
according to their material desires, so they can enter into the material world
with a suitable material body that is in accordance and in sync with their own
material desires.
Maha-Visnu always owns all such
material vessels that are part and parcel of His material creation that He has
dreamed.
Therefore, those who have chosen
to enter the material creation, must go to Maha-Visnu's "Library Of
dreams" and choose a material bodily vessel from His unlimited dreams
of all material affairs.
Everything conceivable material
bodily vessel or container exists in Maha-Visnu's dreams, every scenario is
possible as said above, no matter how strange or bizarre it is, all realities
already exists in the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
This means all that there is and
all that there will be, every combination of material existence possible,
already exists as His dreams.
It is the lifeless material
bodily vessels (coming from Maha-Visnu's dreams) that the individual jiva-souls
(life) within the billions of Brahmanda material universes coming from
Maha-Visnu, enter those material bodily vessels as a passenger. The individual
jiva-souls chooses a material bodily vessel and its pathway through the
material world, just like one chooses from a variety of costumes in a fancy
dress store where each costume represents a particular pastime.
For the eternal associates of
Krsna like Arjuna, there is a different set of rules.
The fact is, Arjuna is always
with Krsna in innumerable different material universes (Brahmandas) at one time
always as his spiritual form, meaning there is only one individual jiva-soul
who is Arjuna.
In other words, no other
individual jiva-soul can ever become Arjuna because his bodily form is not
material meaning it is not a vessel, the body of Arjuna is Arjuna, is him
because he is spiritual.
Although the individual jiva-soul
who surrenders to Krsna, and some advanced yogis, can expand or project their
consciousness into eight different material bodily vessels at the same time and
still be just the "one individual jiva-soul" in all those material
bodily forms.
Advanced yogis can do this but is
also limited to eight expansions however, for Krsna's eternal associate like
Arjuna, he is beyond such rules, he can be in many, many millions universes
simultaneously, where ever Krsna is.
Yes, this is very true as sastra
(scripture) tells us but very rare to understand especially in this degraded
age of Kali-yuga.
The fact is, the individual
jiva-soul who is the spiritual bodily form of Arjuna, is always the same
individual jiva-soul in all the different material universes (Brahmandas)
according to Srila Prabhupada. As said above, no other individual jiva-soul can
ever become Arjuna, and this further applies to every individual jiva-soul in
the spiritual world.
The material world is
different because there the individual jiva-souls are covered by a material
bodily vessel they are the passenger in, this is not so in the spiritual world
where matter (and all material bodily vessels or containers) do not exist.
It is not like that in the
spiritual world because there is no difference between the self and the
spiritual body. This means material bodily vessels do not exist in the
spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of
God)
The "one" individual
jiva-soul (referring to Arjuna) can expand himself as many different Arjunas
who in unlimited pastimes with Krsna in the temporary material world.
This means no one can become
Arjuna because his position is not like Brahmas, the individual jiva-soul of
Arjuna is always the one individual Arjuna no matter where he is with Krsna.
Such a position like Arjuna as
Krsna's eternal servant, is very rare.
As said above, a yogi can also
project his consciousness and be in 8 different material bodies all at one
time. But this is not the case with every material bodily vessel in the
material creation. Only some rare individual jiva-souls can possess more than
one material bodily vessels at once.
This is not the case with the
billions of different Lord Brahmas who are each in their material universe that
is deep within the greater Brahmanda universal shell surrounding their inner
secondary material universe.
In each case, the material
bodily vessel of Lord Brahma is occupied by a different individual jiva-soul as
its passenger.
So as said above, in every
material bodily vessel of Lord Brahma, there is a different individual
jiva-soul every time Maha-Visnu creates all the billions of Brahmanda universes
in the material world.
All the different Brahmas are not
the same "individual jiva-souls," there are billions of different
individual jiva-souls who can become a Brahma in all the different material
secondary universes that are deep inside each Brahmanda material universe that
comes from the Body of Maha-Visnu.
There are those who believe the
material universe is continuously repeating itself each time Maha-Visnu creates
the material Brahmanda universes, but that is not true. The fact is every
"material bodily vessel's pathway" that is, and can be, already
eternally exists within the dreams of Maha-Visnu that the individual jiva-souls
can "hire" and become a passenger in.
The individual jiva-souls
"hires" a material bodily vessel's pathway off Maha-Visnu which is a
permanent roadway or pathway that many individual jiva-souls can be housed in
and travel through/on as a passenger.
This means the material universe,
including all material bodily vessels and their pathways, are continuously
existing with an endless flow of individual jiva-souls possessing those
"material bodily vessel's pathway," passing through them like one
passes over a roadway.
Therefore it only seems the
material universe is repeating itself when in actual fact it is a complete
block, like travelling through an already made roadway that remains there after
travelling through it.
Therefore, each material bodily
vessel or container and its pathway in the material world, eternally exists
within the material dreams of Maha-Visnu, that are "hired" by all
visiting individual jiva-souls who has matching desires that are in sync with
Maha-Visnu's dreams.
The dreams of Maha-Visnu gives
the visiting individual jiva-souls the facilities to fulfil their desires in
the material world.
The fact is such dreams of
material bodies and their pathways the individual jiva-souls are passengers in,
are a permanent "fixture" or roadway that always exists within the
dreams of Maha-Visnu. The visiting individual jiva-souls can travel within
those dreams a passenger housed in a material bodily vessel, and experience
their own desires while in the mundane temporary material world.
Remember, all these material
bodily containers (decaying matter) and their pathways through the material
world, are the creation coming from the dreams of Maha-Visnu. In this way, all
facilities in the material world come from Maha-Visnu's dreams.
The individual jiva-souls, by
their desires, move through the journey of material existence in a material
bodily vessel through the pathway of birth, youth, middle age, disease, old age
and death and then again rebirth if one fails to get out of this temporary
material mundane world of repeated birth and death.
Being in a material bodily vessel
or container as its passenger, is simultaneously being on the pathway or road
that leads to one's destination based on their desires.
All "pathways" (the
journey of material bodily vessels) from the dreams of Maha-Visnu that the
individual jiva-souls are passengers in, have always existed as part and parcel
of the fabric of material space-time that many other visiting individual
jiva-souls have/can also experience and move through.
In other words, there is always a
flow of individual jiva-souls experiencing the road journey of material bodily
containers or vessels coming from the dreams of Maha Visnu.
This is what is really happening
in the material world instead of the nonsense eternal repetition or
reoccurrence speculation.
Each point along the roadway of
material bodily vessels is eternally there as permanent fixture of the material
world's "bodily pathways" that the individual jiva-souls are housed
in as the passenger and passes through experiencing linear time in the material
world.
All pathways through material
time's past, present and future, are made of material bodily vessels (from the
dreams of Maha-Visnu's), that confine and cover the individual jiva-souls with
the fabric of material energy in the form of those material bodily vessel, that
move through space-time's past, present and future carrying the individual
jiva-souls as the passenger experiencing the effect of birth, youth, disease,
old age, and death.
This roadway or pathway of
material bodily vessels, is known as linear time, which is the movement forward
through past, present and future.
But from outside or above that
linear time, rare individual jiva-souls can see the entire roadway, from its
beginning middle and end, seen all at once. They can see the movement of past,
present and future all exist simultaneously, like seeing from above the view of
an entire roadway from its beginning to its end.
The movement of material bodily
vessels within the material world explained above, may seem to be repeating themselves
over and over again however, as said above, that is not what's going on in
Maha-Visnu's dreams as explained above.
The "block material
universe" understanding is where all material bodies (dead matter) always
exist as a permanent fixture in matter that the individual jiva-souls (living
anti-matter) moves through as the passenger. This means the past, present and
future always exist as a fabric of material energy (dead matter) that the
individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) pass through on their journey
through the material world.
The material bodily vessels
(decaying matter) are occupied by the individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) as
the passengers, who move through and along the material pathway of material
bodily vessels that move through past, present and future.
The material universes
(Brahmandas) are constantly being annihilated, and again created by Maha-Visnu,
but as explained above, that is only seen from the movement of "linear
time." However, when seeing everything beyond linear time, one can see all
past, present and future simultaneously in the material world above constant
material annihilation only seen in linear time.
This is the "block
material universe" creation of Maha-Visnu where past, present and future
are always exiting that the individual jiva-souls pass through, just like
travelling through a roadway's beginning, middle and end.
Only the linear time movement of
past, present and future does one see the temporary nature of material energy
and view of material world and its constant annihilation.
Therefore, what is constantly
unfolding through the fabric of material energy and time, are permanent
pathways of material bodily vessels moving through past, present and
future.
All this is coming from
Maha-Visnu's dreams that are a permanent fixture that the individual jiva-souls
are passengers in, who enter and pass along and through material time's past,
present and future.
The fact is, all material bodily
vessels and their pathways are the material dreams of Maha-Visnu that are
"hired" to individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter the
material world.
All material bodily vessels
have no life until they are occupied by individual jiva-souls with one being
the prominent one.
All material bodily vessels and
their pathways are a permanent fixture or post in the material world
originating from the permanent dreams from Maha-Visnu.
The visiting individual
jiva-souls move through material vessels along the pathway of past, present and
future, just like one moves along a roadway that always remains there after
passing on/through it, that other individual jiva-souls can also travel on/through
these same pathways of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are
housed in as the passengers.
Another way of looking at this is
just like in society there exists fancy dress shops where one can go and hire
out costumes and experience a particular pastime (material reality) the costume
represents.
Similarly, in the temporary
material world every material bodily vessel and its pathway conceivable, exists
within Maha-Visnu's "fancy dress shop of material costumes" (His
dreams) that a visiting individual jiva-soul from the spiritual world can
"hire" from Maha-Visnu if they choose to enter His material world.
All such material realities,
pathways, bodily vessels, all come from Maha-Visnu's dreams and are available
to all visiting individual jiva-souls who choose to enter the material world.
There is a constant flow of
individual jiva-souls entering those permanent fixed pathways in the material
world made of material bodily vessels or costumes that cover the individual
jiva-souls who are the passenger in them. In this way, the individual jiva-souls
wears/and passes through these "material bodily vessel's pathway" in
what is known as Maha-Visnu's "block material universe."
In other words, just like the
costumes in a "fancy dress rental shop" are "hired" by the
shop owner, similarly all the variety of material bodily vessel's pathways
existing in the material world are "hired-out" by Maha-Visnu.
All material bodily vessel's
pathways in the material world are provided to all individual jiva-souls who
choose to enter the material world by Maha-Visnu that come from His dreams of
the material world.
Therefore, each "material
bodily" costume or vessel the individual jiva-souls are housed in as a
passenger, is a permanent position or fixture situated in the fabric of
material energy coming from Maha-Visnu's dreams, that moves through the material
world's time of past, present and future.
Maha-Visnu provides all material
bodily vessel's pathways for the individual jiva-souls to be a passengers in,
where they experience birth, youth, disease, old age and death, housed as a
passenger in a material bodily vessel that moves through linear time's, past,
present and future.
All material bodily vessels are
costumes that always remain the property of Maha-Visnu's dreams. They are
"hire out" by Him to all visiting individual jiva-souls to be a
passenger in, who choose to enter Maha-Visnu's temporary material world (decaying
matter) after leaving the spiritual world (living anti-matter) of the Vaikuntha
planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God)
All "lifeless material
bodily vessels" the individual jiva-souls are only passengers in, always
remain the property of Maha-Visnu, whereas the living individual jiva-souls who
are the passengers are from the spiritual world and not from Maha-Visnu's
temporary material world.
Life does not originate from
the lifeless material world, the individual jiva-souls (life) only enters the
temporary material world after leaving the spiritual world which is the
Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) as said above.
The cycle of decay and renewal,
birth and death in this temporary material existence continues on eternally in
linear time, with a continuous flow of visiting individual jiva-souls
experiencing each material bodily pathway within the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
There is always "free
will" in the spiritual world because without free will the individual
jiva-souls (devotees) would not be able to voluntarily participate, cooperate
and contribute to their relationship with Krsna. Without these qualities above
the individual jiva-souls are no better than dead lifeless.
As said above, all material
bodily vessel's pathways are a permanent fixture that are continuously moving
through material time carrying the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter)
in material bodily containers (decaying matter) as the passenger, moving
through past, present and future on their endless journey through the temporary
material world.
The material bodily vessel's
pathway carrying the individual jiva-souls, remains the same, fixed in the
fabric of material energies space-time. All material bodily vessel's pathways
are a "hired" dream coming from Maha-Visnu, where the embodied
individual jiva-souls housed in them as the passenger, experience their journey
from birth, childhood, disease, old age and death through that pathway made of
material bodily vessels.
The individual jiva-souls, who
are confined to a material bodily vessel as its passenger while in the material
world, travel through a permanent pathway of material body containers as
explained above, moving through past, present and future.
However, because the pathway of
material bodily vessels always exists, it means there is a constant flow of
other individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) who also enter that same
permanent pathway made of material bodily vessels as a new passenger on that
permanent pathway, who have fallen from the spiritual world and also
"hired" those material bodily vessels as a new passenger and
traveller. All material bodily vessels and their pathways are "hired"
from the dreaming Maha-Visnu who owns them all.
As explained above, this is also
called the "block material universe" which means the material world
created by Maha-Visnu's dreams, are always exactly the same and covers every
possible outcome, scenario and combination of material energy that fulfils
every desire the fallen visiting individual jiva-souls have.
All the journeys through the
temporary decaying material world by the individual jiva-souls (living
anti-matter) are housed in an array of material bodily pathways made of
material bodily vessels (decaying matter) that are a permanent roadway within
material energy.
Such pathways of material bodily
vessel's pathways, are constantly being occupied by a progression of individual
jiva-souls who have chosen to enter Maha-Visnu's temporary mundane material
world, by leaving the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and
Goloka-Vrindavana, and then traveling on/through a chosen material bodily
pathway made of material bodily vessels, caring the individual jiva-souls as a
passenger through material time's "past, present and future," on
their journey through the temporary material world.
In the temporary decaying
material world, the individual jiva-souls as passengers in a material bodily
vessel, choose a pathway made of material bodily vessels (decaying matter) that
carry them through material time's past, present and future. These pathways of
material bodily vessels eternally exists as the permanent fixture in the dreams
of Maha-Visnu.
Within each material bodily
vessel (decaying matter) exists many individual jiva-souls (actively living
anti-matter) with one being the prominent one as the main passenger. All
visiting individual jiva-soul from the spiritual world play the same part in a material
bodily vessel's pathway that pervious individual jiva-souls before them have
experienced, housed as the passenger travelling through the fabric of material
time's past, present and future on/in a pathway of material bodily vessels
housed as the passenger.
The individual jiva-souls
(anti-matter) are passengers within a moving array of material bodily vessels
(decaying matter) on their journey through material time's past, present and
future.
As said above, this pathway
through time of material bodily vessels, are a permanent fixture of the fabric
of material time within Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material world known as
the block material universe.
The individual jiva-souls are
always a passenger moving through the roadway of past, present and future on
and within a material bodily vessel's pathway.
In this way, the material
bodily vessels are a fixed flowing fabric of the material world's past, present
and future, just like the frames on a movie are always part of the movie reel.
Just like the frames on a movie
reel always exist, so does past, present and future always exist in the
material world that the individual jiva-souls travel through/on as a passenger.
In this way, everything that happens within the material world exists for as
long as the material world exists.
In other words past, present and
future, like the beginning, middle and end of a roadway, are eternally existing
just like when one sees a roadway from above, they see its beginning, middle
and end simultaneously.
However, remember that the
living anti-matter individual jiva-souls are not the material bodily vessels (decaying
matter) they are in as a passenger.
The material bodily vessel is a
garment that covers the individual jiva-souls, who are the passenger in that
outer garment or material body.
One's relationship with Visnu or
Krsna is never impersonal, nor do the individual jiva-souls originate from some
nonsense impersonal inactive beginning point in the impersonal brahmajyoti
(Krsna's Bodily effulgence)
The word
"tatastha-sakti" refers to the marginal living entities (individual
jiva-souls) position of having the choice (free-will) to remain in the
spiritual world, or enter to the temporary material world.
The terminology "marginal
living entities" (who are the eternal individual jiva-souls) known as
tatastha-sakti, is not a place, it is a description of a eternal unique
collective of separated individual jiva-souls (meaning they eternally have the
free will to choose for themselves that Krsna allows) who were never created,
nor will they ever be destroyed.
So, "marginal" or
tatastha-sakti means a collective of eternal individual jiva-souls who are
beginningless and endless originating from the spiritual worlds of the
Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, which are their natural home.
It is due to free will which
means the choice to voluntarily participate and contribute in Krsna's pastimes
in the way they choose, making the relationship with Krsna a two-way
cooperative exchange.
This also allows the individual
jiva-souls to choose to stay in the spiritual world, or enter the mundane
material world and forget Krsna, which is also included in the meaning of being
a "marginal living entity."
So, the individual jiva-souls
being marginal living entities (tatastha-sakti) also means the individual
jiva-souls are on the fence (not literally), meaning they can choose to remain
in the spiritual world, or enter the mundane material world,
As said above, being marginal
refers to the individual jiva-souls expressing their free-will the way they
choose and having the choice to live in the spiritual world, or the material
world.
So clearly the individual
jiva-souls can always choose to remain in their natural original home and
position in the spiritual world, or can enter the material world and become a
passenger in a temporary material bodily vessel or container. With out such choices
in a two-way cooperative exchange, free will has no meaning and only makes us
mindless loveless puppets in Gods impersonal one-sided dictatorial creation.
So lets be very clear, the
"marginal position" is not a place, it means the individual
jiva-souls are sitting on the fence (not literally) and can enter either side,
remain in the spiritual world which is their natural home, or enter the temporary
mundane material world which in never their home.
Those individual jiva-souls who
have made the choice to leave the spiritual world and enter the temporary
decomposing material creation, can later, due to the frustration of material
life's painful cycle of repeated birth and death, enter an inactive dormant
state known as the Brahmajyoti (the impersonal inactive aspect of Brahman)
which is Krsna's Bodily effulgence.
The marginal living entities
(individual jiva-souls) are known in both the material creation and the
impersonal Brahmajyoti as tatastha sakti, but not in the Vaikuntha planets and
Goloka-Vrindavana Prabhupada has explained.
The potential of being
"marginal" is possible in the spiritual world due to free will
however, time there is different from the mundane material world's past,
present and future, there in the spiritual world time is known as "the
eternal presence of Krsna," this means the individual jiva-souls in the
spiritual world are not "marginal" as long as they are in that realm
of the "eternal presence of Krsna."
Srila Prabhupada - "So this temporary material world
is the taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual
world is the permanent (personal) spiritual characteristics. So our effort is
to get out of this taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics and enter
the permanent (personal) characteristics. That is called spiritual
elevation." (Lecture CC, Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York City, Dec 28,
1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is
apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā to the material world, it
is called taṭastha śakti." (Lecture BG, Ch 7 Text 4-5 Bombay, March 30,
1971)
Maya or the temporary material
energy does not exist in the spiritual world however, free will eternally
exists there and allows the individual jiva-souls to make their own decisions
that includes voluntary offerings and contributions while serving Krsna, or
even reject Krsna if they choose.
Srimad Bhagavatam explains the
fall down of the marginal living entity (individual jiva-souls) from the
Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana to the material world, in the 4th Canto
of Srimad Bhagavatam, Chapter 28 text 53, where the Supreme Lord is disguised
as a brahmana.
The brāhmaṇa said - "My dear friend, even though you
cannot immediately recognize Me, can't you remember that in the past you had a
very intimate friend? Unfortunately, you gave up My company and accepted a
position as enjoyer of this material world." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 28 text
53)
Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly
explained to me once in a letter that if the individual jiva-soul then goes
into the brahmajyoti, they are considered still fallen, so does that means the
whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen individual jiva-souls? You see my
question? If I go there, I'm an individual jīva-soul and if I go to the
brahmajyoti I'm still fallen?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."
Revatīnandana dasa - "That means all individual
jīva-souls there in the impersonal brahmajyoti are also fallen souls?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes." (Room Conversation Aug
17, 1971, London)
Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman
is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness, those who are in the
brahman effulgence (being inactive) are also in the fallen condition, so there
is no question of falling down from a fallen condition." (Letter to:
Revatinandana dasa, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970).
The individual jiva-souls
original position means they have the same bodily features like Krsna,
sat-cit-ananda-vigraha (eternity, knowledge, bliss and form.
The full potential and original
feature of all marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) is a two arm
form like Krsna's Form in Vrindavana in the spiritual world.
Devotee – “Is the original body of the individual
jiva soul a human form?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form, God is also human
form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the
Bible, is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two
hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri dasa – “How do we understand, then, that there
are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not
eternal forms?”
Srila Prabhupada – [describing material form first]:
"Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with
blanket, the hands and legs are invisible but you are not the blanket. So the
trees and plants means they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation,
the human form is the full manifestation of the individual jiva-soul as a
spiritual form."
Hari-sauri dasa - “They are covered in the spiritual
world?”
Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world, there that
is always voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become
flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of
Krsna and become flower, voluntarily, and can change from flower to human body.
That is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve
Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water,
as ground, field, as a flagpole, as a chariot, or as father, as mother, as friend,
as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch
1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
The marginal living entities
(individual jiva-souls) are a collective of an unlimited number of individual
jiva-souls who are eternal, this means they have always existed like Krsna and
therefore never created.
As said above, the individual
jiva-souls are called tatastha-sakti or marginal because they can remain in
their natural position and original home in the spiritual world, or can choose
to enter the temporary material world where they become covered by temporary
material bodily vessels. Or can fall even further and become artificially
dormant (inactive) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti.
Srila Prabhupada - "So we are called taṭastha which
is another word for marginal. Marginal means the individual jiva-souls can
remain either way, they can choose to be in the spiritual world, or the
material world. Either on God's side or māyā's side. That is my choice. So when
we don't want to serve God, then we are sent to the māyā, to serve māyā. Māyā
means his position as servant remains the same, but he thinks "I am
master." That is māyā. He is Just like a child trying to do something
father does not like. But when he cries, he's given that. "All right. Do
this." But "All right, do this" or "Do that," he is
under the father. He is under the control of the father. But when he is given
such chance, "Oh, I am independent now. I am independent." So this is
called māyā. He's never independent, but he thinks, "I am
independent." (Philosophy Discussion on The Evolutionists Thomas
Huxley, Henri Bergson, and Samuel Alexander)
Srila Prabhupada - "Marginal means sometimes
internal, sometimes external. When we (individual jiva-soul) are under the
internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external
energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we
can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the
purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external
energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass
25 April, 1969)
The individual jiva-souls were
never created from any origin (having a starting point) because there is no
origin of the individual jiva-souls, they have always existed like Krsna has
without a beginning or an end.
Having "free will" is
the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (individual
jiva-souls), and is always part and parcel of their eternal character and
personality within the spiritual world.
The marginal living entity
(tatastha-sakti) refers to the individual jiva-souls as "free
thinking" individuals sitting on the fence or "border-line" (not
literally) meaning they can choose to remain in the spiritual world, or enter
the temporary material world.
However, the individual
jiva-souls are not literally sitting on some fence as their original position,
no, it refers to their ability to express their free-will in the way they
voluntary choose. As said above, tatastha-sakti (the marginal platform of the
individual jiva-souls) is not a place, it means they have the ability to choose
"this side or that side," to remain in the spiritual world, or enter
the material world and become housed as a passenger in a material bodily
vessel.
Tatastha-sakti (marginal
living entity) means the individual jiva-souls can choose either side, remain
in the spiritual world (living anti-matter), or enter the temporary material
world (decaying matter)
To be clear, this means the
saying that the individual jiva-souls are "sitting on the fence,"
means they always have a choice, to remain in their original position and
natural home in the spiritual world, or can enter the temporary material world
of repeated birth and death where they are confined (housed) as a passenger in
a temporary material bodily vessel created in Maha-Visnu's dreams and
"hired" from Him.
This means the individual
jiva-souls can always choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or
Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God) at any time, this is what free will
allows, and if they didn't have free will, then the individual jiva-souls would
be like dead stone, unable to express their unique personality by offering
their own unique contributions by voluntarily participating and cooperating in
a loving two-way exchange, only the can loving exchanges exist.
Srila Prabhupada – "The impersonalist philosophy is
oneness so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any
such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there must be two, the
lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover, He loves you so much that He's
trying to get you back, that is Kṛṣṇa's attempt - "Please, My dear boy, or
My dear friend, My dear servant." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3,
Paris, June 12, 1974)
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility
of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical
Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes).
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then
you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you
must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
The paradox here is the
individual jiva-souls have their own independence and free will too, even
though Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, cause of all causes who
knows everything, and is behind everything, and therefore simultaneously one
and different from His creation of the living entities and the spiritual and
material worlds.
In other words, each individual
jiva-soul (devotee) has their own unique personality and character that is
seemly always paradoxically separate from Krsna's Personality and absolute
control, although we must never forget that Krsna is the cause of all causes
behind everything and not a blade of grass can move without His sanction.
Krsna allows it to be be this way
to create diversities within His own creation, where a "two-sided"
cooperative or non-cooperative relationship exists between the individual
jiva-souls (the eternal servant in their natural position) and Krsna (the
creator).
Krsna never tells His devotees
how to think, act or what to offer, He encourages them to voluntary choose
their own offerings, He only advices them so the correct standard is
understood.
Krsna prefers His devotees to
choose for themselves how to serve Him Srila Prabhupada has explained to us.
Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's
position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotees want to
serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I
shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily. And
one can change their spiritual bodily form, from flower to human bodily form,
that is spiritual life. There is no restriction, if a devotee wants to serve
Krsna as cow, they serve Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water,
as ground, as field, as a flagpole, as chair, as a chariot, as a pathway, as
father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything is possible, it is
inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia
May 20, 1975)
It is foolish and sad that some
big Vedic scholars and Gurus claim once entering the spiritual world, the
individual jiva-souls can never again fall down to the material world, which is
nonsense, influenced by impersonalism because it denies the individual choice
(free will) to participate or not in Krsna's pastimes.
No, the individual jiva-souls
(devotees) can fall down again and again if they choose because that is what
having "free will" allows. And such fall downs have nothing to do
with Maya (the influence of material energy), it is simply the expression of
free will.
The fact is, Maya or material
energy (decaying matter) does not exist in the Vaikuntha planets or
Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), it only exists in Maha-Visnu's dreams
of the temporary material world where no individual life (living anti-matter) exists
but only enters there then becomes a passenger in material bodily vessel's
pathway (decaying matter).
In fact no individual life (the
individual jiva-souls) comes from the material world, all life, beginning with
Mahā-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu) and His expansions Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu
(Hiraņyagarbha) and Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu (Paramātmā) are ultimately an expansion
of Lord Balarama, all come from Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and
cause of all causes, whose original home is Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual
world beyond the lifeless mundane material world created by His expansion
Maha-Visnu.
All other life (the individual
jiva-souls or marginal living entities) enters the dead material world only
after voluntarily leaving the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and
Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God).
Technically, the material energy,
material atoms that appear to be dead, are actually "dormant" almost
seemingly dead (meaning they are inactive individual jiva-souls) eternally
accompanied with Visnu in the form of Paramatma (Supersoul) like all active
individual jiva-souls housed in material bodily vessels are too.
In other words, Ksirodakaśāyī
Visnu as Paramātmā (God/Krsna), and the "inactive or dormant"
individual jiva-souls both exist together in the material atom (decaying
matter) in the material world where the individual jiva-souls remain "inactive"
(considered almost dead), and Paramātmā (God/Krsna) as the always active
witness. This is how Krsna is simultaneously an individual Person, and
"all-one" with both His material and spiritual creations.
The choice to leave the Vaikuntha
planets and Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows love to be a
"two-way" street, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they
choose to do so because they are not forced to love or serve Krsna. All
relationships with Krsna are therefore voluntary.
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act
wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right,
there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one
sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that
means free will."
Hayagriva dasa - "A man may know better but still
act wrongly."
Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will, he
chooses to misuse his free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing
is bad but still he does it, that is free will. He cannot check his greediness,
so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he
knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison—
everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Because one misuses their free
will, unless there is the possibility to misuse one's free will, then there is
no question of having free will." (from: Discussions on Rene Descartes
philosophy)
Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence
(free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is
independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is
force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence
therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got
independence (free will), proportionately, therefore if you likes you can enter
the temporary material world if you choose, that independence (free will) has
to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that." (Based on
conversation at Mayapur, West Bengal India Feb 19, 1976).
Compiled by Gauragopala Dasa Acbsp (initiated by Srila Prabhupada
on July 10th 1972).