Sunday, October 18, 2026

Being "generated" from Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, means the individual jiva-souls are miner separate expansions of Krsna who are given their own sense of individual self and free will to express themselves in their own unique way.

The individual jiva-souls are given free will by Krsna to participate and contribute in a voluntary unique "two-way" reciprocal exchange with Krsna. 

As Srila Prabhupada explains, love can never exist with just one, there must be two so loving exchanges, reciprocation and cooperation always exists.

The individual jiva souls are not Visnu-tattva expansions (Visnu/Narayana Forms) of Kṛṣṇa who are Krsna in a different pastimes, they are separated expansions from Krsna who have their own unique sense of independent self.

The individual jiva-souls eternally belonging to a beginningless and endless category or collective of living entities known as the marginal plane, tatastha-sakti or marginal living entities because of their unique independence and free will that even allows them to reject Krsna if they choose.

This means they always have a choice due to the free-will that Kṛṣṇa allows, for the purpose to always encourage voluntary contributions expressed in a "two-way" reciprocal exchange with Krsna and Visnu. 

This further means the individual jiva-souls can choose to live in the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana as their spiritual bodily form, which is their original position and eternal natural home, or can unnaturally live in the temporary decaying material world housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel.

The word tatastha-sakti (the marginal plane), literally means the individual jiva-souls can be on this side (the spiritual world) or that side (the material world). 

In other words tatastha-sakti is the category the individual jiva-souls are eternally related to because they can live in either the spiritual world, or the material world, but do not originate from there because it is not a place, and they have no origin.

The eternal real home and origin of the individual jiva-souls is the perpetual spiritual worlds known as the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (anti-matter) and not the temporary material world (matter), the Body of Maha-Visnu or the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti (Krsna’s Bodily effulgence). 

The individual jiva-souls as an eternal spiritual bodily form and have no origin or beginning point to their existence. 

The individual jiva-souls were not created from the marginal plane (tatastha-sakti), which is an eternal category or platform the individual jiva-souls are described as within Krsna's creation as explained above. 

The individual jiva-souls are known as the marginal collective or plane (tatastha-sakti) due to sometimes being able to to live in the spiritual world, their natural eternal home, or live in the material world, their unnatural artificial home. 

Srila Prabhupada - "So the individual jiva-souls are the marginal energy. Marginal means we may remain under the external energy, or we may remain under the spiritual energy, as we like." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 13, London, Aug 19, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "We living entities (individual jiva-souls) are marginal energy. The whole material world is part of the material energy. And there is spiritual energy, the spiritual world, we are marginal which means we are sitting either in the material world, or spiritual woworld. Marginal means this way or that way. You can become spiritual or you become material. No third alternative. Either you become materialistic or you become spiritualistic. So, as long as we are in the material world, you are sitting on the material energy however, you are also sitting in Kṛṣṇa creation because His material energy is not separated from Kṛṣṇa." (Lecture BG, Ch 6 text 25-29, Los Angeles, Feb 18, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "The marginal energy (individual jiva-souls) means they are between the two: the spiritual energy and material energy. At the present moment, those who are in this material world are under the influence of material energy. But we can get out of this material energy by bhagavad-bhakti." (Lecture BG, Ch 13 text 5, Bombay, Sept 28, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Marginal means actually we belong to the spiritual nature. Because we are spirit soul, but we have come in contact with this material nature, some way or other. So therefore we are seeing our position incompatible. We cannot adjust here. Therefore we are getting one type of body and enjoying or suffering another type of body, another type of body, another type of body. This is going on. Therefore we are called marginal. If we like, we can transfer our self to the spiritual world and remain eternally, because we are of the spiritual nature." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 15 text 36, Los Angeles, Dec 14, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "The external energy is this material world, bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ khaṁ mano buddhir eva ca. This is material world. And internal energy is the spiritual world. And marginal energy-we, the living entities (individual jiva-souls). Marginal means we may remain in this material world or we may remain in the spiritual world." (Lecture SB, Canto 3 Ch 25 text 11, Bombay, Nov 11, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "Caitanya Mahāprabhu explained, taṭasthā-śakti which means marginal. Marginal means the living entity (individual jiva-souls) has to become servant. That is his position. Jīvera svarūpa haya nitya kṛṣṇa dāsa (Cc. Madhya 20.108-109). But when the servant wants to become master, he is under the clutches of māyā. And when he understands that "I am not master; I am servant," he is under Kṛṣṇa. That is taṭasthā (marginal). That taṭa... Taṭa means the beach. Sometimes the beach is covered with water, and sometimes it is land. That is called taṭasthā. So that land, sometimes water." (Lecture CC Madhya-lila 20.108-109, New York, July 15, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because he is living entity, he is marginal. There is chance of... Marginal means... I have explained several times. Just like the land. Between the ocean and the land, there is a portion of land which is sometime merged within water, sometimes it is land. So a living entity's position is like that, marginal energy. He may be under the influence of yogamāyā or he may be under the influence of mahāmāyā. When he is under the influence of mahāmāyā, that is his conditional life. And when he is under the influence of yogamāyā, he's free." (Lecture, Seattle, Oct 7, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada - "So we are called taṭastha which is another word for marginal. Marginal means the individual jiva-souls can remain either way, they can be in the spiritual world, or the material world. Either on God's side or māyā's side. That is my choice. So when we don't want to serve God, then we are sent to the māyā, to serve māyā. Māyā means his position as servant remains the same, but he thinks "I am master." That is māyā. He is Just like a child trying to do something father does not like. But when he cries, he's given that. "All right. Do this." But "All right, do this" or "Do that," he is under the father. He is under the control of the father. But when he is given such chance, "Oh, I am independent now. I am independent." So this is called māyā. He's never independent, but he thinks, "I am independent." (Philosophy Discussion on The Evolutionists Thomas Huxley, Henri Bergson, and Samuel Alexander)

Srila Prabhupada - "Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we (individual jiva-soul) are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass, USA 25 April, 1969)

The individual jiva-souls were never created from the impersonal brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti or Maha-Visnu because they have no origin, they are beginningless and endless and were never created just like Krsna was never created and has always existed.

As Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 teaches, the individual jiva-souls were never created, nor will they ever cease to exist.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the non-existent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 from the “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy, an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who have all existed for as long as Krsna has existed, which is eternity. 

The individual jiva-souls are eternal living persons as a spiritual bodily form who can never be destroyed, cut into pieces, terminated or extinguished, the individual jiva-souls are indestructible. 

The spiritual platform known as the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are the original home of the individual jiva-souls. 

As said above, in their original spiritual home on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, the individual jiva-souls were never created there because they have always existed there as individual persons as a spiritual bodily form serving Krsna or Visnu. 

The individual jiva-souls are therefore eternal living units of anti-matter who, through their free will, can voluntarily choose to live in the spiritual world, or the material world, which is what being marginal means as previously explained.

As said above, the eternal individual jiva-souls being generated from the marginal plane, does not mean they were created, or originate from some place in creation, or have some beginning point in the spiritual sky, no, they are eternally without beginning or end.

The individual jiva-souls were never created, nor literally "generated" from any origin because they have always existed, and will continue to exist as an individual spiritual bodily form (person) eternally.

The individual jiva-souls are eternal persons as a spiritual bodily form whose eternal natural home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (living anti-matter) that take up 75% of the Spiritual Sky, but some (less then 10%), are now presently covered by a material bodily vessel within the temporary material world (decaying matter) that takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky.

Falling to the material world of repeated birth and death means being possibly covered by the 8 million 400 species of material bodily forms in the material world.  

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual personalities as a spiritual bodily form for infinity.

The individual jiva-souls never came into being or were generated from a beginning point because they are beginningless and endless, and never created.

This means the individual jiva-souls never originated or generated from tatastha-sakti (the marginal plane) as some claim because again, there is no origin for the individual jiva-souls who like Krsna and Viṣṇu, exist eternally.  

In other words, just like Krsna has always existed, so has His marginal potency, the individual jiva-souls. 

The individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) are not literally between the spiritual energy and the material energy as some wrongly claim because the individual jiva-souls are always part of the spiritual energy (living individual units of anti-matter) that only becomes covered in the material world by being housed in a material bodily vessel. 

In other words, even when fallen and covered in the material world within a material bodily vessel, the individual jiva-souls always remain a spiritual person, they are never inbetween matter and spirit, their eternal home and spiritual bodily form eternally exists and is only covered by a material bodily vessel matter in the material world.  

Whether in the spiritual world or material world, the individual jiva-souls are eternally anti-matter spiritual persons.

Srila Prabhupada - "So this temporary material world is the taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the permanent (personal) characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics and enter the permanent (personal)  characteristics. That is called spiritual elevation." (Lecture CC, Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York City, Dec 28, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā to the material world, it is called taṭastha śakti." (Lecture BG, Ch 7 Text 4-5 Bombay, March 30, 1971)

Maya or the temporary material energy does not exist in the spiritual world however, free will eternally exists there and allows the individual jiva-souls to make their own decisions of voluntary offerings and contributions, and can even choose to accept or reject Krsna. 

The inactive brahman effulgence (impersonal brahmajyoti) worshipped by impersonalists, mayavadis and mundane religionists who do not see God as an individual Person who is simultaneously all-pervasive (all-one), have no idea about the Bodily Form of God. The impersonal inactive brahmajyoti is a  fallen conditions the individual jiva-souls fall down too, but can never remain in that "fallen condition" of inactivity eternally. 

Eventually, they are forced to leave that dormant condition because the nature of the individual jiva-souls are to be always "active" in the service of Krsna and not remain inactive. 

So, eventually the fallen individual jiva-souls leave the impersonal brahmajyoti or void and again take birth in the material world.

Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the individual jiva-soul goes into the brahmajyoti, that is considered a fallen condition, still fallen, so does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen individual jiva-souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and if I go there to the brahmajyoti effulgence, am I fallen?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana dasa - "That means all individual jīva-souls there in the impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti) are also fallen souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living persons, as a spiritual bodily form, who can never be destroyed, cut into pieces, terminated or extinguished because the individual jiva-souls are indestructible.

This means there was no beginning to the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) existence, nor will there be an end or no new individual jiva-souls ever be created because they have always existed as explained above.

The eternal individual jiva-souls can choose, due to free will, stay in the temporary material world's repeated cycle of birth and death and almost endless cycles of material annihilation and creations, for an almost infinity, but ultimately it is all temporary.

So the conclusion is, there is no origin to Krsna's individual marginal living energy (an unlimited number of eternal individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed, which is eternity.

We must understand from Srila Prabhupada's teachings the real meaning of surrender, voluntary devotional service, loving exchanges, free will and the need to always remember Krsna and never forget Him.

In the spiritual world's of Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets, surrender to Krsna, through loving voluntary devotional service, is never a "one-way or one-sided" impersonal relationship that denies individual unique contributions and offerings from the devotees in a two-way exchange of loving reciprocation. 

Real love or service to Radha and Krsna in the spiritual world is always voluntary, based on wonderful loving reciprocal exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees.

Voluntary service in the Kingdom of God (Krsna) is only genuinely expressed correctly in a "two-way" exchange of loving emotions based on devotional creative actions and thoughts.

Krsna always sanction's "free will" in the spiritual world because He allows the individual jiva-souls to have their own unique independent voluntary skills of self expression, and choice of personal offerings they present to Krsna.

Without free will, the individual jiva-souls can never participate in voluntarily expressing their unique love for Kṛṣṇa, that enrich, expand and add unlimited varigatedness to the relationship.

The individual jiva-soul's (marginal living entities) relationship with Krsna, is naturally a "two-way" personal partnership sharing loving exchanges based on reciprocation, voluntary cooperation, and pleasing Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.  

Krsna gives the individual jiva-souls "free will" for the purpose to allow "love to exist" which means of allowing a "two-way" to participation by having loving exchanges. 

Such loving exchanges can never exist with only "one" making all the decisions, not even if it is Krsna, there must be always be two-way exchange with God (Krsna) otherwise "love" can never exist!

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means a relationship between "two-persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Love can only exist in a "two-way" exchange of intimate expressions. Only a "two-sided" cooperation expands one's unique individual voluntary contributions presented to Krsna as personal offerings.

On the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, personal expressions of loving exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees can only be expressed and acted upon by having free will. 

Such freedom of expression is always encouraged by Krsna in His relationship with His devotees (the individual jiva-souls that add flavour, variety and mystery to their association.

This means the Kingdom of God (Krsna's abode) is not a "one-sided" dominating impersonal stagnant domain devoid of personal unique offerings that will only deny personal contributions (offerings) to God (Krsna), meant to expand, enrich and forever flavour the relationship with Kṛṣṇa with unlimited variety.

As said above, love or service is not a "one-sided" affiliate of total supremacy or pre-eminence, it is rather an act of voluntary participation and personal unique contributions, only then can real love exist.

So we must understand that genuine loving relations and service are based on voluntary reciprocal exchanges and contributions between two and not just one!

Loveless Impersonalism is excluding the voluntary act of self expression and denying a two-way cooperative relationship with God (Krsna). 

The individual jiva-souĺs have their choices too, even if that choice means rejecting Krsna. 

Free will only has meaning when the individual jiva-souls have a choice to express themselves in a "two-sided" voluntary way with, or without Krsna. This means the individual jiva-souls can reject Krsna if they choose, which in a sense proves that "free will" does truly exist.

Only then can genuine free will exist.

In other words, loving reciprocation is only possible in a "two-way" exchange between two individuals with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows of service.

Impersonalism is understood in this way, the puppeter has total control over his puppets by manipulating the strings that control their every actions, they only act accordingly to what the puppeter does with his strings, the puppets have no thoughts of their own, or have no sense of an individual existence.

Similarly, the individual jiva-souls are not Krsna's mindless emotionless puppets or drones. 

Those who think surrendering to Krsna in the impersonal way by becoming His mindless puppet and only doing what He demands without personal voluntary contributions, are dangerous mayavadis who are foolishly committing spiritual suicide.

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is "oneness," so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

The Kingdom of Kṛṣṇa is nothing like that, Kṛṣṇa only wants those devotees who think for themselves, and who voluntary choose to serve in a voluntary way to please Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will." (Philosophy Discussions, Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Having "free will" (freedom of thoughts and actions) is the eternal constitutional make up of every "marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul)," and is the foundation that begins all the jiva-soul's interactions with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good. That is not love, that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and don't offer you anything in return, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then there is love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love can only exist in a relationship between "two-persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is also spiritual bodily form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore, it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The individual spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri dasa – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – [describing material form first]: "Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri dasa - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is always voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he become flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, as flagpole, as chariot, as chair or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

The individual jiva-soul in its full spiritual potential is not some impersonal formless spark dormant or inactive in Krsna's Bodily effulgence (the impersonal inactive aspect of the brahmajyoti). The eternal original natural of the individual jiva-souls is to be always voluntary active in Krsna's service and pastimes as explained above.

Srila Prabhupada – “The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul.” (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul is not formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is spiritual bodily form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Krsna allows the eternal individual jiva-souls (devotees) in the spiritual world to continually re-invent themselves by voluntarily serving in a capacity they choose by making their own unique contributions and offerings.

This allows diversity and an unlimited range of variegatedness in the devotee's personal service to Krsna that is forever expanding their progressive independent contributions in the Kingdom of God (Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana) infinitely expanding their voluntary participation, personal contributions and inspiration in an unlimited variety of unique ways serving and associating with Krsna in His never ending expanding blissful pastimes (lilas)

Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls (His devotees) to have their "free will" because He wants to see unique voluntary independent self expressions of voluntary love towards Him from His devotee's personal choices with their own unique thoughtful contributions on their own.

Krsna wants His devotees to voluntarily be personally creative in their independent offerings, friendship and service to Him.

In other words, Kṛṣṇa wants a "two-sided" open reciprocal cooperative contributing relationship of loving exchanges with His intimate devotees, where they can voluntarily express themselves as they choose, in their own unique way, as separate independent individuals from Krsna, yet simultaneously fully dependent on Him due to being His parts and parcels.

The devotees of Krsna should never surrender to a mindless puppetry “one-sided" dominating impersonal dictatorship, where you are ordered how to think and how to act without being encouraged to voluntarily think for yourselve by providing your own unique personal contributions. 

Such a nonsense “one-sided” relationship is a loveless dictatorship and impersonalism that denies individual self expression!

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling, then there is love, not achieved by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good. That is not love, that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and don't offer you anything in return, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then there is love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love can only exist in a relationship between "two-persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

As said above, real love (service) is voluntary and can never exist on a “one-way" path because love can only exists when "two" are involved in voluntary reciprocal contributing loving exchanges.

Love can never exist with just one there must be two reciprocating with each other.

Krsna always wants a "two-way" contributing open relationship with His devotees, therefore He always encourages self expression and unique personal contributions from His devotees that make the relationship a "two-sided" exchange of loving emotions.

The relationship with Krsna must be this way because love can never be experienced with just one, as said above, there must two in an open "two-sided" reciprocal relationship of mutual returns and voluntary cooperation.

Krsna allows free will (voluntary self-expression) so His devotees can experience their own unique individuality and make their own unique offerings (contributions) to Him in a way that forever expands loving exchanges and reciprocation in a "two-way" relationship between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees which is never a "one-sided" affair in a non-contributing loveless dictatorship.

Free will only exists in the spiritual world because Krsna knows love can only be expressed when there are voluntary contributions a d cooperation from the individual jiva-souls (devotees) that make one's relationship with Krsna a "two-way" loving reciprocal exchange.///.




























Friday, October 9, 2026

The individual jiva-souls are housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel while in the temporary material world.

Maha-Visnu is an expansion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa and creates the mysterious material world with His dreaming. This is difficult to comprehend for most because it is only understood correctly by Krsna's (God's) devotees.

All material bodily vessel's pathways (decaying matter) are "hired" to the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) by Maha-Visnu they are passengers in on their journey through the temporary material world who had previously rejected Krsna or Visnu in the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (also living anti-matter) and entered the temporary mundane material world.

All life originates from the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, this means no life originates from the material world, the impersonal brahmajyoti, or from the Body of Maha-Visnu (Krsna's expansion who creates the material world). 

Maha-Visnu is Krsna's direct expansion who also expands Himself as Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Paramatma (Supersoul) who also have their roles to play in the management of the temporary material world. 

For example, the Supersoul (Krsna as the 4 armed Viṣṇu) accompanies every individual jiva-soul who goes to the material world and impersonal brahmajyoti. The Srimad Bhagavatam explains that even in the material atom exists a dormant (inactive) individual jiva-soul accompanied by the Supersoul.

No individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from Maha-Visnu, they all enter His material world after choosing to leave or fall down from their original natural position and home in the spiritual world.

All material bodily vessels and their pathways through the material world that house the "individual jiva-souls" as the passenger, enter from outside the lifeless material world, meaning they come from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) 

Once in the temporary material world, the individual jiva-souls "hire" a material bodily vessel and its pathway from Maha-Visnu (from His dreaming) the creator of the temporary material world.

The material world is visited by only a minority of individual jiva-souls (less than 10% from the spiritual world voluntarily enter the material world) whose original natural position and home is always the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

As said above, no individual jiva-souls originates from the temporary decaying lifeless material world where the individual jiva-souls are only a visitor housed in a material bodily vessel.

So clearly, the individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) never originated from the lifeless temporary material world, from Maha-Visnu, or from the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti (Krsna's Bodily effulgence).

In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 28 text 53 and text 54/5 is explained that the individual jiva-soul's original home is with Visnu or Krsna in either the Vaikuntha planets where Visnu resides, or in Krsna's Personal Abode known as Goloka-Vrindavana.

The individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) are not suppose to be in the decaying material world covered by a decaying material bodily vessel housed as the passenger, or after becoming frustrated with material life within those material bodily vessel as a passenger, artificially escaping from that painful bodily cycle of repeated birth and death, by attempting to enter the dormant "inactive" (impersonal) brahmajyoti effulgence (Krsna's Bodily effulgence).

In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 text 28, Krsna in the disguise of a Brahmana, asks the individual jiva-soul, now trapped in the material world,

"Do you remember Me?" So, how is it possible to remember what you never previous knew? This clearly means we originate from Goloka Vrindavana, or the Vaikuntha planets, and from there have entered the temporary material world.

Only the uneducated believe the individual jiva-souls originate from the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti, or the Body of Maha-Visnu. The individual jiva-souls do not originate from the inactive (dormant) impersonal brahmajyoti, or the  Body of Maha-Visnu. In fact life (anti-matter) only exists in the material world after coming from the spiritual world. In other words, all life that enters the material world is under the jurisdiction of Maha-Visnu after the individual jiva-souls fall down from the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God)

The mysterious workings of Maha-Visnu's material world works in a way that not even science fiction writers can imagine, all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are housed as passengers in, originate from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

The individual jiva-souls, also known as the marginal living entities, can choose to remain in the spiritual world, their natural home, or enter the temporary material world and become housed as a passenger in an unlimited number of material bodily vessels and their pathways on their journey through the material world. 

Being able to choose between being in their natural home and original position in the spiritual world, or enter the temporary material world, is what being "marginal living entities" mean.

The "marginal platform" (tatastha-sakti) refers to the individual jiva-souls as being on the "border-line," or on the fence (not literally) between the spiritual world and the material world - it is not a place! 

It means the individual jiva-souls can enter either side, remain in their original position and home in the spiritual world, or choose to enter the temporary material world of repeated birth and death confined as a passenger in a temporary material bodily vessel.  

In the temporary material world, the individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter its by leaving the spiritual world, must go to Maha-Visnu who created the material world and "hire" from Him a suitable material bodily vessel and its pathway from Maha-Visnu's dreams that is in sync and matches their own desires.

All material bodily vessel's pathways through the material world are "hired" to the individual jiva-souls by Maha-Visnu for them to be a passenger in while on their journey travelling through the temporary material world. 

The individual jiva-souls have "hired" a material bodily container off Maha-Visnu to became its passenger in, within the temporary material world because they have rejected Krsna and Visnu in the spiritual world (The Kingdom of God).

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord (Maha-Visnu). This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York City).

Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu creates the material world (decaying matter) by His dreaming including all temporary material bodily vessels and their pathways that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in/on while outside of the spiritual world (living anti-matter) and now living in the decaying material world.  

Nothing material (dead matter) exists in the spiritual world which includes living individual units of anti-matter known as the individual jiva-souls, who are minor and separated expansions of Krsna, and Kṛṣṇa the Supreme Personality of Godhead who is the cause of all causes, and His Visnu-tattva expansions, who are all individual persons yet simultaneously all-one with Kṛṣṇa, yet seen as unlimited individual Visnu/Narayana Forms in the spiritual and the material worlds. This means Kṛṣṇa is simultaneously all pervasive (all-one) with His creation and exists as "everything and is everywhere" in the spiritual world, taking up 75% of Krsna's Spiritual Sky creation. 

The material world (dead matter) created by Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu on the other hand, takes up 25% of Krsna’s Spiritual Sky creation is devoid of life and is only where individual life (individual jiva-souĺs) enters after leaving the spiritual world.  

All facilities (made of decaying matter) in the material world are provided (hired out) by Maha-Visnu through His dreams to those individual jiva-souls who can no longer stay on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana because of their rejection of Krsna or Visnu that they can do due to being "marginal living entities" meaning they have "free will" as independent separated individual jiva-souls.  

No individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from Maha-Visnu, His dreaming of the material world, or from the impersonal dormant "inactive" brahmajyoti (Krsna's Bodily effulgence)

The individual jiva-soul's original position and home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, from the spiritual world they can choose to be transferred to Maha-Visnu's material world via His dreams, which is an array of of "unlimited material bodily vessel pathways" that the individual jiva-souls "hire" then enter as its passenger. 

These material bodily vessel's pathways are an already build and established roadway of material bodily vessels, fixed in the fabric of eternal time moving through past, present and future where each step of time eternally exists. 

The individual jiva-souls are on a material bodily pathway made material of bodily containers they are passengers in, on a journey through past, present and future housed in those temporary material bodies as the passenger, experiencing repeated birth and death in linear time (which means moving forward).

There are unlimited "material bodily vessel's pathways" available to the individual jiva-souls to be a passenger in/on, instantly placing them on a "fixed material bodily roadway" in Maha-Visnu's material world.

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities), just like Krsna, were never created and have no origin, nor will they ever cease to be, they are eternal just like Krsna is as Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 12 to 30 explains.

Krsna and the individual jiva-souls are like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays that cannot exist without each other. Krsna and the individual jiva-souls have always existed together and were never created.

Although, as said above, the real eternal home of the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) is always in either the Vaikuntha planets of Lord Visnu, or Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavana, and not the temporary mundane material creation, or merged inactively (dormant) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, or originate from the Body of Maha-Visnu.  

No life exists or originates from Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material creation that includes all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in. All life in the material world comes from the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).

Maha-Visnu's dreams all the temporary material world, He sees the individual jiva-soul's movement through material time's past, present and future, "housed" as the passenger (anti-matter) in a material bodily vessel and its pathway (decaying matter).

This pathway of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, is also known as Mahā-Viṣṇu's "block material universe" where past, present and future all exist at the same time eternally, where the individual jiva-souls pass through that passage or pathway of material time, as its passenger "housed" in a material bodily containers.  

This means each step along the way through material time, material bodily vessels exist as a pathway that house an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter the temporary material world. 

Each "pathway of material bodily vessels" that house an individual jiva-soul as its passenger, always exist in Mahā-Viṣṇu's already dreamed dreams.  

These material bodily pathways, also known as a thoroughfare, means a road or route forming material bodily pathways from one place to another that is always open to "house" an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who choose to enter those pathways of the infamous and famous, demigod and demon.

Only a minority of individual jiva-souls (less than 10%) choose to leave their real spiritual home in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and foolishly enter the temporary material world and move into a material bodily vessel's pathway as a passenger. 

All material bodily vessel's pathway that house the individual jiva-souls as a passenger, are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams of His material world.

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York City).

Srila Prabhupada – “This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes - “This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83).

Srila Prabhupada – “Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature.” (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b).

Srila Prabhupada – “Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream.” (Tokyo Japan 1972 SB Lecture).

Srila Prabhupada – “Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams.” (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b).

Being in a "material bodily pathway's" journey is how the individual jiva-souls travel through material bodily vessels existing permanently in time's past, present to future, as its passenger, moving along the material bodily vessel's pathway's start (birth) to its end (death), just like one travels from the beginning to the end of a permanent roadway that many others also travel on.

The means the material bodily vessel's pathway in the material world is already set in stone within Maha-Visnu's dreaming, from its beginning to its end, this means each material bodily pathway that the visiting individual jiva-soul travels in as a passenger, comes from the already dreamed dreams of Maha-Visnu, and can only be lived through and never changed because each material bodily vessel's pathway is already set in stone in Maha-Visnu's already dreamed dreams of the material world. 

All material bodily pathways that carry the individual jiva-souls as a passenger, eternally exists within the dreams of Maha-Visnu, just like each frame on a film canister always exists and can be viewed again and again. 

The visiting individual jiva-souls who choose to leave the spiritual world, where everything there is living individual personalities of anti-matter, enter the temporary material world (decaying matter) then "hire" a material bodily vessel and its pathway off Maha-Visnu, from His dreams, to be a passenger in.

As said above, such material bodily vessels from the dreams of Maha-Visnu, are a already set in stone there beginning to its end because Maha-Visnu has already dreamed the entire material world He opens for "hires" to all individual jiva-souls who choose to leave the spiritual world, the origin and nature home of all individual life in Krsna's spiritual, material and impersonal brahmajyoti creations.

Once the individual jiva-souls enter one of Maha-Visnu's dreams (a material bodily pathway) as its passenger, nothing in that "hired" bodily material pathway can be changed because Maha-Visnu has already dreamed them.

However, paradoxically, because every possible scenario, combination and arrangement of material realities (dreams) exist within Maha-Visnu's dreams, the individual jiva-soul can even "hire" a material bodily vessel where they can seemingly change the past, present and future, making it appear it is not set in stone, but this is never the case. 

This scenario ironically is possible due to Maha-Visnu granting of all desires the individual jiva-souls have, including a desire to seemingly change the outcome of a material bodily pathway's journey through past, present and future as its passenger. However, that seemingly attempt to change history is also included when a material bodily vessel's pathway is "hired" from Maha-Visnu. 

In actually fact, the individual jiva-souls have not changed anything because the "dream" they seemingly believed changed, is already included in Maha-Visnu's "dreamed dreams of the material world." 

No matter what the individual jiva-souls desires, everything they can possibly desire is already included within the dreamed dream of Maha-Visnu, all found in His unlimited "Vault Of Endless Dreams" that covers every combination, scenario and outcome possible.

Therefore, even when the individual jiva-souls believe they have changed an outcome, that outcome is also part of Maha-Visnu's dreaming. 

The point is eveything there is in Krsna's creation of the material world, belongs to His expansion and administrator Maha-Visnu's dreams, and nothing can happen outside His dreams even if the individual jiva-souls think they can. 

All material bodily pathways are permanently available and continuously occupied by a constant stream visiting individual jiva-souls who have also chosen to leave the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God) and enter the temporary mundane material world.

In other words, each material bodily vessel's pathway "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, are continuously available for other visiting individual jiva-souls from the spiritual world to also travel through/on as its passenger after leaving the spiritual world (anti-matter) and entering the temporary material world (matter).

In theoretical physics, the "block material universe" posits that time is a static dimension where all past, present, and future events exist simultaneously. 

In the context of Maha-Visnu, as said above, this means that every single permutation of the material world and every sequence of events, every possible outcome and scenario "already" and eternally exists within His dreams as the block universe.

This "Block material universe" and its unlimited collection of "material bodily vessel pathways" that "house" the individual jiva-souls in matter, are eternally Maha-Visnu's dreams of the temporary material world. 

All material bodily vessels are a continuous movement of containers on a pathway through past, present and future for the individual jiva-soul as its passenger to move through, just like viewing the already permanently existing frames on a film reel or canister that still remain after being viewed.  

In other words, the material dreams of Maha-Visnu are a permanent fixture of material bodily vessels that move like the frames on a movie reel. 

This is what the block material universe means, the individual jiva-souls move through past, present and future housed in those material bodily vessels as a passenger. This is like viewing a projector that plays each frame in sequence on the movie reel.

Those individual jiva-souls (living units of anti-matter) who travel this journey through the material world are always contained in a material bodily vessel (decaying matter) housed as the passenger, it is that material bodily vessel carrying the individual jiva-soul as the passenger that moves through past, present and future carrying the individual jiva-soul on its pathway through the temporary material world. 

As said above, these pathways of material bodily containers are "hired" from Maha-Visnu dreams so the individual jiva-souls can enter His material world.   

The view of linear-time (moving forward through time) is different from the over all block material universe that sees past, present and future always simultaneously. 

Linear-time on the other hand is the forward journey of a material bodily vessel that houses the individual jiva-soul as the passenger, move from past to present to future along a pathway forward through time's past, present and future.  

In other words, linear-time is seen as a sequence of constant unfolding events moving through material time where the material bodily vessel carries the individual jiva-soul as its passenger along the pathway of past, present and future, from its beginning on that pathway, to its middle, and then to its end. 

On the other hand, seeing this entire journey of past, present and future all at once (simultaneously) is known as the block material universe. 

This is like viewing a long winding road from above in an aircraft where one can see its beginning point, its middle, and its ending all at once, or viewing each frame on a movie canister that are still there after watching the film reel. In the block view of the material universe, one is able to see where the road began, its middle and its end. 

This is the difference between the "block material universe" and "linear time" is the latter movement of "linear time" flows along/through past, present and future. 

Whereas the block material universe is seen all at once, meaning past, present and future eternally exist all together and seen like one sees frame after frame after frame on a movie reel that all existing together, and always exists after one views those frames (the movie picture). This is the block material universe creation of Maha-Visnu.  

Only Maha-Visnu and rare mystic yogis and devotees can see above linear time, just like one sees an entire roadway from above - its beginning, middle and end all happening at the same time.

All material bodily vessels (decaying matter) that house the individual jiva-souls as its passenger, are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, coming from His vast "Library Of Dreams" to those visiting individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) who originate from the spiritual world, whose desires are in-sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams of material bodily vessels that houses them as a passenger on their journey through the decaying material world.  

All material bodily vessels are like costumes "hired out" from a costume shop, in this case owned by Maha-Visnu, to the visiting individual jiva-souls to wear.

The individual jiva-soul's desires, choices and expressions of "free will" are factored in to a particular material body and its pathway that they enter as a passenger on its journey through the temporary material world.

However, free will only partially exists in the material world in the human species but not in the other eight million lower species who only respond to the instincts of eating, sleeping,  mating and defending. In other words, free will never exist in lower species.

Maha-Visnu sees everything, the beginning, middle and end of all material bodily vessel's pathways moving through past, present and future simultaneously.  

The individual jiva-souls are passengers in those decaying material bodily pathways moving through past, present and future.

All material bodily vessels (decaying matter) occupied by the visiting individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are the material dreams of Maha-Visnu.

There is always "free will" however, each material body's pathway destiny that the visiting individual jiva-souls enter, is already mapped out in the dreams of Maha-Visnu explained above.

As said above, free will is always factored into the equation in such a way that the free will of each individual jiva-souls is never compromised or lost.

Free will always exists in the spiritual world that allows the individual jiva-souls to voluntarily except or reject Krsna as they choose, and leave Krsna's association in the spiritual world and enter the material world.

But it must be made clear that very few individual jiva-souls (devotees) fall down from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual world and enter the temporary material world, in fact less than 10% of individual jiva-souls (devotees) choose to leave meaning over 90% of Krsna's devotees choose to never leave the perpetual spiritual world.

The freedom to choose must always be there so voluntary loving expressions, reciprocation,  cooperation and exchanges can openly exist on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).

So, from the self-centred desires of those individual jiva-souls who choose to ignore Krsna, instantly places them in the material world. This fall down from the spiritual world begins when they put their own desires in the centre, instead of voluntarily pleasing Krsna or Visnu.

Once in Maha-Visnu's temporary material world, they then "hire" a material bodily vessel from Him to be a passenger in, "hired" from His "Library Of Dreams" that transfers them to a temporary material bodily vessel and becomes its passenger. 

This is the beginning of the individual jiva-soul's entery into the material world after leaving the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).

But such fall downs are very rare, as said above, less than 10% of individual jiva-souls fall down from the spiritual planets, most never choose to leave.

Rejecting Krsna means the individual jiva-souls can no longer stay in the spiritual world and are therefore instantly transferred out of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vṛndāvana, and relocated to the dreams of Maha-Visnu, where they can "hire" a particular material pathway made of material bodily vessels they enter as a passenger.

The individual jiva-soul enters (hires) a material bodily vessel's pathway that they journey on/in as its passenger, that matches their desires that are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world. 

Within Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world, every possible "combination of matter" exists that meets the individual jiva-souls needs that they desire for their journey through the material world.  

This includes the individual jiva-soul's voluntary expression (free will) already factored into the equation of their destiny within a particular material bodily vessel they have chosen to enter as its passenger explained above. 

Bhagavad-gītā As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7 - "O Arjuna, whatever you wish to see, behold at once in this body of Mine! This universal form can show you whatever you now desire to see and whatever you may want to see in the future. Everything moving and nonmoving is here completely, in one place." (BG, Ch 11 Text 7)

Srila Prabhupada  - "No one can see the entire universe while sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe. But a devotee like Arjuna can see everything that exists in any part of the universe. Kṛṣṇa gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, Arjuna is able to see everything." (BG, Ch 11 Text 7 Purport)

The great sages and devotees in previous ages thousands of years ago were "tri-kāla-jñā." meaning they could see all time, past, present and future, simultaneously or all at once. This means the past and future as the fabric of time, always exists in Maha-Visnu's material world.  

The individual jiva-souls who experience the journey through past, present and future housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel's pathway, are different from other individual jiva-souls who also experienced that same journey through time on that same pathway. 

This means the "pathway of material bodily vessels" are a permanent fixture in Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world which is also called Maha-Visnu's "block material universe" as explained above.

Tri-kāla-jñā means three main movements of time-

1 - What was in the past,

2 - What is at present.

3 - What shall happen in the future,

Over five thousand years ago, instructions from great Vedic sages were written down for this degraded age of Kali-yuga (the age of hypocrisy and quarrel). The sages and devotees back then could visit the past, the present, and the future and experience all these three movements of happening simultaneously.  

As said above, these sages were known as "tri-kāla-jñā," tri means three. Tri is a Sanskrit word, and three is a English or Latin word, both have the same meaning. 

Tri-kāla-jñā means one can see past, present and future simultaneously. Tri means three, and kāla means time. 

Material time is experienced in three ways-

past,
present,
future.

Material time is the movement along a material bodily vessel's pathway through past, present and future called "linear time" as explained above. 

Past, present and future only exists in the temporary material world (decaying matter) and not in the spiritual world (living anti-matter) where only the eternal presence of Krsna exists.

In the spiritual world there is no past or future, only the presence of "now" exists there. This means nothing ever decays, nor do devotees experience birth, disease, old age and death. 

1 - Material time means past, present and future exist with the side effects of birth, disease oldage, death, decay, constant maintenance. 

2 - Spiritual time means the eternal presence of Krsna exists which means there in no birth, disease old age, death, decay or maintenance.

The sages in those early days before Kali-yuga were tri-kāla-jñā meaning they could understand, experience and see all at once, what is in the past, what is at present and what is happening in the future.

In the Bhagavad gītā As It Is Kṛṣṇa says - "My Dear Arjuna, you, Me, I, and all these kings and soldiers who have assembled in this battlefield, they were all individuals, and we are still individual. And in this past, in the future, we shall all remain individuals. That past, present, and future, he explained. Another place Kṛṣṇa says, vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26). Atītāni, atītāni means past. Vartamānāni ca, "and present." So that is yogic power, one can know past, present, and future." (SB, Canto 12 Ch 2 text 1, San Francisco, March 18, 1968)

There is still a lot more to learn about the movement of the individual jiva-souls on their journey in a material bodily vessel as a passenger through material time's past, present and future.

We have only scratched the surface in understanding Vedic texts in the 61 years since Srila Prabhupada began making his valuable contribution to the western world in 1965.

Unlike the spiritual world's "eternal presence" of time (the eternal "now") where past and future do not exist and only the "eternal presence" of Krsna exists, the movement of material time in the temporary material world is eternally divided into past, present and future which is a roadway that has its beginning point (birth), middle (youth and middle age) and end (old age and death). 

This is only experienced by the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) while they are passengers in a temporary material bodily vessel (decaying matter) in the material world that is a pathway through past, present and future. This is the individual jiva-souls journey, housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel, moving through the temporary material world (the dreams of Maha-Visnu).

Temporary means the decaying progression of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, forced by the movement through material time's past, present and future and experiencing its side effects of birth, youth, middle age, old age, death, decay and the need for constant material maintenance.

Whereas in the spiritual world there is only the forever "eternal presence of Krsna" where everything is eternally fresh, youthful and never decomposes or fades away like material vessels and all matter does in the material world.

In the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), the individual jiva-souls (devotees) are their spiritual bodily form, who no longer possess a material bodily decaying covering or vessel they are in as a passenger within Maha-Visnu's temporary material world.

All material bodily vessels or bodily containers, are part of the decaying fabric of material energy within the temporary material world, created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu for the individual jiva-souls to be housed as passengers in. All decaying matter that includes all material bodily vessels, take up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky.

The other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky are the permanent eternally youthful unlimited spiritual worlds (living anti-matter) where individual spiritual personalities serve God within the "eternal presence of Krsna," beyond the decaying influence of past, present and future that causes birth, youth, middle age, old age and death of a material bodily vessel the individual jiva-soul are the passenger in within the temporary material world created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu. 

The material world's "temporary material bodily vessel's pathways" are made of decaying matter that the individual jiva-souls are housed in as its passenger, confined to the temporary material world created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu.  

The individual jiva-souls travel through the pathways of the temporary material world "housed" within Maha-Visnu's dreams of material bodily vessels, as a passenger. 

These material bodily containers (decaying matter) confine the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) within them, housed as a passenger. Such material bodily vessels are strictly under the laws of material nature an experience birth, disease, old age, death within Maha-Visnu's mundane material world.

Each material bodily vessel (decaying matter) is made of material energy that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) travel in as a passenger, moving along/through material time in its pathway of material bodily vessels. 

In other words, the individual jiva-souls are the temporary occupants or passengers housed on a pathway of decaying material bodily containers moving through material time's past, present and future, just like viewing the frame by frame by frame on a film canister that remains after watching the movie (after moving through material time) 

Technically "material dead energy" is dead because it is devoid of housing any individual jiva-souls (living units of anti-matter) is an all-one, all pervasive lifeless energy that houses the individual jiva-souls as a passenger in a material bodily vessel. 

In other words, the individual jiva-souls housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel in the material world, are covered by material energy in the form of a material bodily vessel once they enter the temporary material world created by Maha-Visnu. 

This means all material bodily forms (decaying matter) that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are housed as passengers in, means they are not those material bodily vessels they are passengers in, which are also pathways the individual jiva-souls pass through/on/as a passenger through Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world.  

The individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are the traveller on that pathway of material bodily vessels (decaying matter), this is called the block material universe.  

All material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are housed in as a passengers, move under linear time which means they experience moving in one direction along that pathway of material bodily vessels. 

In this way, because of linear time means moving forward, the individual jiva-souls housed as the passenger in a material bodily vessel, experience birth, youth, getting old and experiencing forgetfulness as the material body they are in as the passenger, breaks down, decomposes and wears out, and eventually becoming unfit for the individual jiva-souls to occupy. 

Matter (decaying material energy) in the material world, under the view of linear-time, eventually breaks down to dust and fossils then merges back into the "oneness" of material energy (lifeless matter). 

All material bodily vessels are ultimately impersonal decaying matter when no longer possessed by the presence of life. 

The individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) entered the material bodily container however, thei movement of ever material bodily vessel is caused by Maha-Visnu through His dreams.

Only the presence of the individual jiva-soul (living anti-matter) gives the appearance of "life" in the material world, giving all material bodily vessels to appear as alive when in fact only the individual jiva-souls housed in the material body as passengers is the only life. 

Of course there are millions of individual jiva-souls in a material bodily vessel as different species within cells, bacteria, viruses, stomach acids, mouth, on skin and in stool with a prominant individual jiva-soul being the main one who has the most control over the material body.   

The material bodily vessel is seen as moving and alive however, it only appears that way because of the presence of the individual jiva-souls within the material bodily vessels as the passenger explained above.  

As said above, the individual jiva-souls are living personalities of anti-matter, as an eternal spiritual bodily form in the spiritual world, but covered in the material world by a temporary decaying material bodily vessel. 

1 - "Matter" is lifeless dead energy in the material world that is what all material bodily vessels that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, are made of.

2 - "Anti-matter" is Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His Visnu-tattva expansions who are individual persons, and simultaneously all-pervasive (all-one) with both the spiritual and material worlds, and Krsna’s minor separated expansions known as the marginal living entities (the individual jiva-souls). 

The individual spiritual unit's (individual jiva-soul) full potential is in the spiritual world which is their natural home and origin, in fact all life comes from the spiritual world meaning no life originates from the material world, the Body of Maha-Visnu, or the impersonal brahmajyoti where individual dormant (inactive) jiva-souls in their fallen condition artificially appearing as a "spiritual individual spark" (not all-pervasive) appearing as a collective effulgence surrounding Krsna's spiritual Bodily Form.  

The Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) are the natural home and eternal position of all individual jiva-souls where they live as an eternal spiritual bodily form in a place where everything is alive and never decays like mundane matter in the material world does. 

Material energy (lifeless matter) does not exist in the spiritual world (everything as individual units of anti-matter), this means all material bodily vessels (decaying matter) do not exist in the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), they can only exist in the temporary material world created by Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu.  

The individual jiva-souls are living personalities of anti-matter, whereas the material energy has no life, it is simply dead matter that the individual jiva-souls in the material world are confined too housed as a passenger, giving the appearance the material bodily vessels are living, no, it it the individual life inside them that is living.

The individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) who choose to enter the material world, become a passenger housed in a material bodily vessel or covering (decaying matter). 

All material bodily vessels in the material world are "hired" off Maha-Visnu provided to the individual jiva-souls to be passengers in, so they can pursue their desires to try and enjoy separately from Krsna.  

All material bodily vessels and their pathways through the material world originate from Maha-Visnu's Library of Unlimited Dreams that simultaneously match the desires of the individual jiva-souls, and are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams that covers every combination, scenario and desires the individual jiva-souls have.

The individual jiva-soul housed in a material bodily vessel as a passenger, continues their journey through the material world life after life in different material bodily container's pathways always as the passenger. 

The material bodily vessel can also be achieved from the accumulation of the reactions (karma) from acting out their desires in the human bodily form, creating pious and impious reactions however, only in a human material bodily form does the individual jiva-souls create Karma (due to free will) and not in the lower species of life where free will does not exist and only material bodily instincts exist.

There is no Karma for the individual jiva-souls in the lower species of life (8 million different species) where each species of life acts only on the instincts of eating, sleeping, mating and defending and not free will only found in the humans species.  

From the viewpoint of Maha-Visnu and the great sages and devotee's of Krsna/Visnu, they can see past, present and future in the material world all existing simultaneously, just like from above a roadway, one can see the beginning, middle and end of that roadway all at once.  

Similarly, from seeing above the movement of progressing through material time's, past, present and future, frame by frame like on a film canister, one can see that the individual jiva-souls are housed on a journey as the passenger in a material bodily vessel's pathway that belongs to Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the His temporary material world.

Maha-Visnu's "hired out" dream pathways of unlimited material bodily containers, are created by Him to give facilities and purpose to those individual jiva-souls to be passengers in, who choose to leave the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and instead enter Maha-Visnu's material world made up of His dreams that includes all material bodily vessels and their pathways through material time the individual jiva-souls enter as the passenger.  

Because material energy is eternal, it is possible that the material desires of an individual jiva-soul who remains in the temporary material world long enough, to eventually come to a point over that endless span of eternity, to repeat their existence in the material world. 

Such a bizarre jurisdiction in the temporary material world usually is part of Lord Siva's interest who also wants to save these lost individual jiva-souls trapped in eternally repeating their existence in the mundane material world.  

Remember, the always changing material energy (lifeless energy) that covers the individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) with a material bodily vessel, is eternal, this means the "decaying matter" that makes up the material world and always material bodily containers is "all-one all-pervasive lifeless energy" that has no beginning or end, and always exists as 25% of Krsna’s Spiritual Sky called Maha-Visnu's material creation.  

Every possible outcome that the individual jiva-souls can dream up over eternity exists within the dreams of Maha-Visnu. As said above, this means every combination of material elements would be exhausted to the point they would again repeat themselves over that eternity if an individual jiva-soul foolishly stays in the material world long enough.  

In other words, if the individual jiva-souls who choose to remain in the material world for an almost eternity, it is possible for them to experience this phenomenon because the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are also eternal living entities without beginning or end.

So what is really going on?

Even though the material energy is temporary where all material bodily vessels that houses the individual jiva-souls as the passenger, are always in a constant state of decay and decline, in need of endless maintenance due to the influence of material time's past, present and future, this impersonal material time is constantly rearranging its composition of material energy, changing its appearance and always on the move that houses the individual jiva-souls in material bodily vessels that all belong to the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

In this way, the material bodily vessels that houses the individual jiva-souls, are within those material bodily container as its passenger and are clearly not the material body.

When the material bodily vessel decay and destroyed at the end of its linear time through its journey over past, present and future, the individual jiva-souls within are released due to the material vessel they are in wears out and becomes unit to occupy as its passenger any more, and moves on to another suitable material bodily vessel and its pathway however, the decaying material energy only changes and never disappears.

Under the block material universe viewpoint, one can see above flowing through material time's past, present and future, just like one can see the beginning, middle and end of a roadway all at the same time.

Experiencing linear time's past, present and future is only in the material world, where individual jiva-soul are housed in a material bodily vessel as the passenger, experiencing the material journey through birth, youth, middle age, old age and death, which are the dreams of Maha-Visnu in His material world.  

From a higher viewpoint, above the influence of material mundane time, all material bodily pathways moving through past, present and future, all existing simultaneously in Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world known as the block material universe.

The individual jiva-souls pass through those pathways made of material bodily vessels like one passes along an already made roadway.

Many have asked, could the all activities of a material bodily vessel one chooses from Maha-Visnu's dreams to occupy as the passenger, continuously happen in the material universe  with another group of individual jiva-souls playing that same part also moving along through material time?

The answer is yes, in fact that is exactly what's going on.

This is because past, present and future are always there happening simultaneously as the permanent fixture in the fabric of material time.

This means all material bodily vessels occupied by the individual jiva-souls as its passenger, are a permanent fixture of the material energy, like a roadway is a permanent pathway through a city, or like seeing the frame after frame on a movie camera reel always existing after one views them.

Many individual jiva-souls travel on that same roadway of material bodily vessels, along that same pathway of material bodily containers moving through past, present and future in Maha-Visnu's material world, experiencing the same journey in the material world in those material bodily vessels others have also travelled in/through.

This is the real meaning of what the block material universe is.

Lord Brahma's material bodily vessel is also a "hired" position or post in the material world that many individual jiva-souls can experience if they are qualified to enter that material bodily vessel or post.

All material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, are "hired" from Maha-Visnu (God) from His vast dreams. 

This further means those individual jiva-souls with the right qualifactions can experience any material bodily vessel they desire, but only if they deserve it.

To enter a material bodily vessel as a traveller on a journey through the temporary material world, all individual jiva-soul must first qualify to enter a particular material bodily vessel created by Maha-Visnu as its passenger that is in-sync with their own desires.

This also takes into account karma, which means one's past good and bad actions will force one to accept a material bodily vessel they deserve out of 8 million 400 thousand species in the material world. 

The individual jiva-souls must always be qualified to enter a particular material bodily vessel, pious or impious, or any material bodily container they choose to be its passenger, based on what they deserve, desire, rewarded with and punished with. 

Once in the material world after leaving the spiritual world, the individual jiva-souls must eventually "hire" a material bodily vessel from Maha-Visnu's dreams that simultaneously match their own desires or karma (the results of past good and bad deeds if they are already in the material world).  

The material bodily vessel's pathway the individual jiva-souls are passengers in/on, are a permanent fixture in the material energy that moves through past, present and future. This means every step along the pathway of material bodily containers exists eternally as Maha-Visnu's block material universe that the individual jiva-souls journey on through the material world on that pathway of material bodily vessels as the passenger.

The material bodily vessels are not living persons, they are decaying lifeless containers that unlimited individual jiva-souls occupy within bacteria, viruses, bugs, cells etc used as a vehicle by them where one individual jiva-soul is the prominent passenger in that material container. 

The prominent living individual person in those decaying material bodily containers only have the intelligence to advance in spiritual life and return back home back to Godhead. 

All other individual jiva-souls also living in the various material bodily parts, are trapped in the lower species confined to the material bodies of various bugs, cells, stool, blood, brain substance etc that are also in the material bodily vessel.

The individual jiva-soul (living individual units of anti-matter) originated from their real home in the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).


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The material bodily vessel is made of material elements (decaying matter) that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are covered by and travels in as a passenger while confined to the temporary material world.

As said above, the individual jiva-soul (living anti-matter) is the real individual person as a eternal spiritual bodily form, and not the material bodily vessel which is a decaying container that only carries the individual jiva-souls as its passenger. 

All a material bodily vessels or containers are not a living person, they are a decaying coverings or containers made of material energy that house the eternal individual jiva-soul in it as the passenger.

The fact is, as said above, every cell within the material bodily vessel also houses an individual jiva-soul however, their consciousness is not developed and rank among the lower almost inactive species, unlike the prominent individual jiva-soul whose intelligence is on the human platform and stand out individual jiva-soul "housed" in that material bodily vessel.  

So, who really are the famous and infamous personalities like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Winston Churchill, John Kennedy etc? 

Actually the answer is no-one because each material bodily vessel that the individual jiva-souls are in as its passenger, are not a living individual person at all, it is a decaying material container made of temporary material energy that is occupied by the individual jiva-souls housed as the a passenger. 

All material bodily vessel's pathways are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world and always remain His property and not the property of the individual jiva-souls who are in them as as passenger.

The fact is, it is possible that any individual jiva-soul, as long as they qualify, can experience the material bodily vessel of a Hitler, or Stalin, Churchill etc, or a material bodily vessel similar if desired, deserved and qualified to enter.

This means over eternity, many individual jiva-souls have also travelled those same pathways of material bodily vessels which are a permanent fixture within the dreams of Maha-Visnu's material world. 

The dreams of Maha-Visnu are also called the "block material universe" which means past, present and future always exist as a movement of material bodily vessels existing through every stage of all material time with different individual jiva-souls passing through those pathways as the passenger of those material bodily vessels.

In fact as explained above, an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls experience those material bodily pathways of the rich, famous and infamous whose material bodily vessels they occupy as its passenger, are a permanent fixtures in the fabric of time that moves on a journey through past, present and future in the material world. 

All material bodily pathways (vessels) are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, just like one reads a "loaned-out" book in a Library that is always available to others for loan also similarly, Maha-Visnu's "Library of material dreams" are available to every individual jiva-soul who choose to enter the material world.  

As explained, each material bodily pathway (decaying material bodily vessel) the individual jiva-souls are on as a passenger, are from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

Maha-Visnu's dreams, that includes all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are housed in as the passenger, are a permanent fixture within His material energies. 

Within Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world, exists unlimited material bodily vehicles for the individual jiva-souls to travel in as the passenger however, no individual jiva-souls are created by Maha-Visnu, or come from His material world, or the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti, they all enter His material world after leaving the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.  

 However, as explained above, only less than 10% of individual jiva-souls voluntarily choose to leave the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) and enter the temporary material world (decaying matter) where they "hire" a material bodily vessel and its pathway (made of material bodies) from Maha-Visnu's "dreams" and simultaneously experience their own dreams (desires) that are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams.

In other words, the material bodily vessel (decaying matter) that houses the individual jiva-soul as a passenger, is not a living spiritual person, it is a decaying material container that contains the individual jiva-soul within it. The individual jiva-soul in their full potential, is an eternal spiritual bodily form whose eternal natural original home is the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vṛndāvana.  

Kṛṣṇa and all of His various expansions (both Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva) are the individual life-force that eternally exists in the spiritual world, but also enters the decaying material world. 

The material bodily vessel (decaying matter) is the outer material covering that houses the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) as a passenger on a journey through the temporary material world that are the dreams of the sleeping Maha-Visnu.