Friday, October 9, 2026

The individual jiva-souls are housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel while in the temporary material world.

Maha-Visnu is an expansion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa and creates the mysterious material world with His dreaming. This is difficult to comprehend for most because it is only understood correctly by Krsna's (God's) devotees.

All material bodily vessel's pathways (decaying matter) are "hired" to the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) by Maha-Visnu they are passengers in on their journey through the temporary material world who had previously rejected Krsna or Visnu in the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (also living anti-matter) and entered the temporary mundane material world.

All life originates from the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, this means no life originates from the material world, the impersonal brahmajyoti, or from the Body of Maha-Visnu (Krsna's expansion who creates the material world). 

Maha-Visnu is Krsna's direct expansion who also expands Himself as Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Paramatma (Supersoul) who also have their roles to play in the management of the temporary material world. 

For example, the Supersoul (Krsna as the 4 armed Viṣṇu) accompanies every individual jiva-soul who goes to the material world and impersonal brahmajyoti. The Srimad Bhagavatam explains that even in the material atom exists a dormant (inactive) individual jiva-soul accompanied by the Supersoul.

No individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from Maha-Visnu, they all enter His material world after choosing to leave or fall down from their original natural position and home in the spiritual world.

All material bodily vessels and their pathways through the material world that house the "individual jiva-souls" as the passenger, enter from outside the lifeless material world, meaning they come from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) 

Once in the temporary material world, the individual jiva-souls "hire" a material bodily vessel and its pathway from Maha-Visnu (from His dreaming) the creator of the temporary material world.

The material world is visited by only a minority of individual jiva-souls (less than 10% from the spiritual world voluntarily enter the material world) whose original natural position and home is always the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

As said above, no individual jiva-souls originates from the temporary decaying lifeless material world where the individual jiva-souls are only a visitor housed in a material bodily vessel.

So clearly, the individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) never originated from the lifeless temporary material world, from Maha-Visnu, or from the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti (Krsna's Bodily effulgence).

In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 28 text 53 and text 54/5 is explained that the individual jiva-soul's original home is with Visnu or Krsna in either the Vaikuntha planets where Visnu resides, or in Krsna's Personal Abode known as Goloka-Vrindavana.

The individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) are not suppose to be in the decaying material world covered by a decaying material bodily vessel housed as the passenger, or after becoming frustrated with material life within those material bodily vessel as a passenger, artificially escaping from that painful bodily cycle of repeated birth and death, by attempting to enter the dormant "inactive" (impersonal) brahmajyoti effulgence (Krsna's Bodily effulgence).

In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 text 28, Krsna in the disguise of a Brahmana, asks the individual jiva-soul, now trapped in the material world,

"Do you remember Me!"

So, how is it possible to remember what you never previous knew? This clearly means we the individual jiva-souls originate from Goloka Vrindavana or the Vaikuntha planets, and from there, entered the temporary material world.

Only ignorant fools believe the individual jiva-souls originate from the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti or the Body of Maha-Visnu.  As said above, the individual jiva-souls do not originate from the inactive (dormant) impersonal brahmajyoti, or the  Body of Maha-Visnu.. In fact life only exists in the material world under the jurisdiction of Maha-Visnu, and within the impersonal brahmajyoti, after falling down from the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God)

The mysterious workings of Maha-Visnu's material world works in a way that not even science fiction writers can imagine, all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are housed as passengers in, originate from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

The individual jiva-souls, also known as the marginal living entities, can choose to remain in the spiritual world, their natural home, or enter the temporary material world and become housed as a passenger in an unlimited number of material bodily vessels and their pathways on their journey through the material world. 

Being able to choose between being in their natural home and original position in the spiritual world, or enter the temporary material world, is what being "marginal living entities" mean.

The "marginal platform" (tatastha-sakti) refers to the individual jiva-souls as being on the "border-line," or on the fence (not literally) between the spiritual world and the material world - it is not a place! 

It means the individual jiva-souls can enter either side, remain in their original position and home in the spiritual world, or choose to enter the temporary material world of repeated birth and death confined as a passenger in a temporary material bodily vessel.  

In the temporary material world, the individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter its by leaving the spiritual world, must go to Maha-Visnu who created the material world and "hire" from Him a suitable material bodily vessel and its pathway from Maha-Visnu's dreams that is in sync and matches their own desires.

All material bodily vessel's pathways through the material world are "hired" to the individual jiva-souls by Maha-Visnu for them to be a passenger in while on their journey travelling through the temporary material world. 

The individual jiva-souls have "hired" a material bodily container off Maha-Visnu to became its passenger in, within the temporary material world because they have rejected Krsna and Visnu in the spiritual world (The Kingdom of God).

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord (Maha-Visnu). This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York City).

Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu creates the material world (decaying matter) by His dreaming including all temporary material bodily vessels and their pathways that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in/on while outside of the spiritual world (living anti-matter) and now living in the decaying material world.  

Nothing material (dead matter) exists in the spiritual world which includes living individual units of anti-matter known as the individual jiva-souls, who are minor and separated expansions of Krsna, and Kṛṣṇa the Supreme Personality of Godhead who is the cause of all causes, and His Visnu-tattva expansions, who are all individual persons yet simultaneously all-one with Kṛṣṇa, yet seen as unlimited individual Visnu/Narayana Forms in the spiritual and the material worlds. This means Kṛṣṇa is simultaneously all pervasive (all-one) with His creation and exists as "everything and is everywhere" in the spiritual world, taking up 75% of Krsna's Spiritual Sky creation. 

The material world (dead matter) created by Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu on the other hand, takes up 25% of Krsna’s Spiritual Sky creation is devoid of life and is only where individual life (individual jiva-souĺs) enters after leaving the spiritual world.  

All facilities (made of decaying matter) in the material world are provided (hired out) by Maha-Visnu through His dreams to those individual jiva-souls who can no longer stay on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana because of their rejection of Krsna or Visnu that they can do due to being "marginal living entities" meaning they have "free will" as independent separated individual jiva-souls.  

No individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from Maha-Visnu, His dreaming of the material world, or from the impersonal dormant "inactive" brahmajyoti (Krsna's Bodily effulgence)

The individual jiva-soul's original position and home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, from the spiritual world they can choose to be transferred to Maha-Visnu's material world via His dreams, which is an array of of "unlimited material bodily vessel pathways" that the individual jiva-souls "hire" then enter as its passenger. 

These material bodily vessel's pathways are an already build and established roadway of material bodily vessels, fixed in the fabric of eternal time moving through past, present and future where each step of time eternally exists. 

The individual jiva-souls are on a material bodily pathway made material of bodily containers they are passengers in, on a journey through past, present and future housed in those temporary material bodies as the passenger, experiencing repeated birth and death in linear time (which means moving forward).

There are unlimited "material bodily vessel's pathways" available to the individual jiva-souls to be a passenger in/on, instantly placing them on a "fixed material bodily roadway" in Maha-Visnu's material world.

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities), just like Krsna, were never created and have no origin, nor will they ever cease to be, they are eternal just like Krsna is as Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 12 to 30 explains.

Krsna and the individual jiva-souls are like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays that cannot exist without each other. Krsna and the individual jiva-souls have always existed together and were never created.

Although, as said above, the real eternal home of the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) is always in either the Vaikuntha planets of Lord Visnu, or Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavana, and not the temporary mundane material creation, or merged inactively (dormant) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, or originate from the Body of Maha-Visnu.  

No life exists or originates from Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material creation that includes all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in. All life in the material world comes from the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).

Maha-Visnu's dreams all the temporary material world, He sees the individual jiva-soul's movement through material time's past, present and future, "housed" as the passenger (anti-matter) in a material bodily vessel and its pathway (decaying matter).

This pathway of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, is also known as Mahā-Viṣṇu's "block material universe" where past, present and future all exist at the same time eternally, where the individual jiva-souls pass through that passage or pathway of material time, as its passenger "housed" in a material bodily containers.  

This means each step along the way through material time, material bodily vessels exist as a pathway that house an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter the temporary material world. 

Each "pathway of material bodily vessels" that house an individual jiva-soul as its passenger, always exist in Mahā-Viṣṇu's already dreamed dreams.  

These material bodily pathways, also known as a thoroughfare, means a road or route forming material bodily pathways from one place to another that is always open to "house" an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who choose to enter those pathways of the infamous and famous, demigod and demon.

Only a minority of individual jiva-souls (less than 10%) choose to leave their real spiritual home in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and foolishly enter the temporary material world and move into a material bodily vessel's pathway as a passenger. 

All material bodily vessel's pathway that house the individual jiva-souls as a passenger, are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams of His material world.

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York City).

Srila Prabhupada – “This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes - “This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83).

Srila Prabhupada – “Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature.” (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b).

Srila Prabhupada – “Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream.” (Tokyo Japan 1972 SB Lecture).

Srila Prabhupada – “Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams.” (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b).

Being in a "material bodily pathway's" journey is how the individual jiva-souls travel through material bodily vessels existing permanently in time's past, present to future, as its passenger, moving along the material bodily vessel's pathway's start (birth) to its end (death), just like one travels from the beginning to the end of a permanent roadway that many others also travel on.

The means the material bodily vessel's pathway in the material world is already set in stone within Maha-Visnu's dreaming, from its beginning to its end, this means each material bodily pathway that the visiting individual jiva-soul travels in as a passenger, comes from the already dreamed dreams of Maha-Visnu, and can only be lived through and never changed because each material bodily vessel's pathway is already set in stone in Maha-Visnu's already dreamed dreams of the material world. 

All material bodily pathways that carry the individual jiva-souls as a passenger, eternally exists within the dreams of Maha-Visnu, just like each frame on a film canister always exists and can be viewed again and again. 

The visiting individual jiva-souls who choose to leave the spiritual world, where everything there is living individual personalities of anti-matter, enter the temporary material world (decaying matter) then "hire" a material bodily vessel and its pathway off Maha-Visnu, from His dreams, to be a passenger in.

As said above, such material bodily vessels from the dreams of Maha-Visnu, are a already set in stone there beginning to its end because Maha-Visnu has already dreamed the entire material world He opens for "hires" to all individual jiva-souls who choose to leave the spiritual world, the origin and nature home of all individual life in Krsna's spiritual, material and impersonal brahmajyoti creations.

Once the individual jiva-souls enter one of Maha-Visnu's dreams (a material bodily pathway) as its passenger, nothing in that "hired" bodily material pathway can be changed because Maha-Visnu has already dreamed them.

However, paradoxically, because every possible scenario, combination and arrangement of material realities (dreams) exist within Maha-Visnu's dreams, the individual jiva-soul can even "hire" a material bodily vessel where they can seemingly change the past, present and future, making it appear it is not set in stone, but this is never the case. 

This scenario ironically is possible due to Maha-Visnu granting of all desires the individual jiva-souls have, including a desire to seemingly change the outcome of a material bodily pathway's journey through past, present and future as its passenger. However, that seemingly attempt to change history is also included when a material bodily vessel's pathway is "hired" from Maha-Visnu. 

In actually fact, the individual jiva-souls have not changed anything because the "dream" they seemingly believed changed, is already included in Maha-Visnu's "dreamed dreams of the material world." 

No matter what the individual jiva-souls desires, everything they can possibly desire is already included within the dreamed dream of Maha-Visnu, all found in His unlimited "Vault Of Endless Dreams" that covers every combination, scenario and outcome possible.

Therefore, even when the individual jiva-souls believe they have changed an outcome, that outcome is also part of Maha-Visnu's dreaming. 

The point is eveything there is in Krsna's creation of the material world, belongs to His expansion and administrator Maha-Visnu's dreams, and nothing can happen outside His dreams even if the individual jiva-souls think they can. 

All material bodily pathways are permanently available and continuously occupied by a constant stream visiting individual jiva-souls who have also chosen to leave the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God) and enter the temporary mundane material world.

In other words, each material bodily vessel's pathway "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, are continuously available for other visiting individual jiva-souls from the spiritual world to also travel through/on as its passenger after leaving the spiritual world (anti-matter) and entering the temporary material world (matter).

In theoretical physics, the "block material universe" posits that time is a static dimension where all past, present, and future events exist simultaneously. 

In the context of Maha-Visnu, as said above, this means that every single permutation of the material world and every sequence of events, every possible outcome and scenario "already" and eternally exists within His dreams as the block universe.

This "Block material universe" and its unlimited collection of "material bodily vessel pathways" that "house" the individual jiva-souls in matter, are eternally Maha-Visnu's dreams of the temporary material world. 

All material bodily vessels are a continuous movement of containers on a pathway through past, present and future for the individual jiva-soul as its passenger to move through, just like viewing the already permanently existing frames on a film reel or canister that still remain after being viewed.  

In other words, the material dreams of Maha-Visnu are a permanent fixture of material bodily vessels that move like the frames on a movie reel. 

This is what the block material universe means, the individual jiva-souls move through past, present and future housed in those material bodily vessels as a passenger. This is like viewing a projector that plays each frame in sequence on the movie reel.

Those individual jiva-souls (living units of anti-matter) who travel this journey through the material world are always contained in a material bodily vessel (decaying matter) housed as the passenger, it is that material bodily vessel carrying the individual jiva-soul as the passenger that moves through past, present and future carrying the individual jiva-soul on its pathway through the temporary material world. 

As said above, these pathways of material bodily containers are "hired" from Maha-Visnu dreams so the individual jiva-souls can enter His material world.   

The view of linear-time (moving forward through time) is different from the over all block material universe that sees past, present and future always simultaneously. 

Linear-time on the other hand is the forward journey of a material bodily vessel that houses the individual jiva-soul as the passenger, move from past to present to future along a pathway forward through time's past, present and future.  

In other words, linear-time is seen as a sequence of constant unfolding events moving through material time where the material bodily vessel carries the individual jiva-soul as its passenger along the pathway of past, present and future, from its beginning on that pathway, to its middle, and then to its end. 

On the other hand, seeing this entire journey of past, present and future all at once (simultaneously) is known as the block material universe. 

This is like viewing a long winding road from above in an aircraft where one can see its beginning point, its middle, and its ending all at once, or viewing each frame on a movie canister that are still there after watching the film reel. In the block view of the material universe, one is able to see where the road began, its middle and its end. 

This is the difference between the "block material universe" and "linear time" is the latter movement of "linear time" flows along/through past, present and future. 

Whereas the block material universe is seen all at once, meaning past, present and future eternally exist all together and seen like one sees frame after frame after frame on a movie reel that all existing together, and always exists after one views those frames (the movie picture). This is the block material universe creation of Maha-Visnu.  

Only Maha-Visnu and rare mystic yogis and devotees can see above linear time, just like one sees an entire roadway from above - its beginning, middle and end all happening at the same time.

All material bodily vessels (decaying matter) that house the individual jiva-souls as its passenger, are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, coming from His vast "Library Of Dreams" to those visiting individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) who originate from the spiritual world, whose desires are in-sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams of material bodily vessels that houses them as a passenger on their journey through the decaying material world.  

All material bodily vessels are like costumes "hired out" from a costume shop, in this case owned by Maha-Visnu, to the visiting individual jiva-souls to wear.

The individual jiva-soul's desires, choices and expressions of "free will" are factored in to a particular material body and its pathway that they enter as a passenger on its journey through the temporary material world.

However, free will only partially exists in the material world in the human species but not in the other eight million lower species who only respond to the instincts of eating, sleeping,  mating and defending. In other words, free will never exist in lower species.

Maha-Visnu sees everything, the beginning, middle and end of all material bodily vessel's pathways moving through past, present and future simultaneously.  

The individual jiva-souls are passengers in those decaying material bodily pathways moving through past, present and future.

All material bodily vessels (decaying matter) occupied by the visiting individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are the material dreams of Maha-Visnu.

There is always "free will" however, each material body's pathway destiny that the visiting individual jiva-souls enter, is already mapped out in the dreams of Maha-Visnu explained above.

As said above, free will is always factored into the equation in such a way that the free will of each individual jiva-souls is never compromised or lost.

Free will always exists in the spiritual world that allows the individual jiva-souls to voluntarily except or reject Krsna as they choose, and leave Krsna's association in the spiritual world and enter the material world.

But it must be made clear that very few individual jiva-souls (devotees) fall down from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual world and enter the temporary material world, in fact less than 10% of individual jiva-souls (devotees) choose to leave meaning over 90% of Krsna's devotees choose to never leave the perpetual spiritual world.

The freedom to choose must always be there so voluntary loving expressions, reciprocation,  cooperation and exchanges can openly exist on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).

So, from the self-centred desires of those individual jiva-souls who choose to ignore Krsna, instantly places them in the material world. This fall down from the spiritual world begins when they put their own desires in the centre, instead of voluntarily pleasing Krsna or Visnu.

Once in Maha-Visnu's temporary material world, they then "hire" a material bodily vessel from Him to be a passenger in, "hired" from His "Library Of Dreams" that transfers them to a temporary material bodily vessel and becomes its passenger. 

This is the beginning of the individual jiva-soul's entery into the material world after leaving the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).

But such fall downs are very rare, as said above, less than 10% of individual jiva-souls fall down from the spiritual planets, most never choose to leave.

Rejecting Krsna means the individual jiva-souls can no longer stay in the spiritual world and are therefore instantly transferred out of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vṛndāvana, and relocated to the dreams of Maha-Visnu, where they can "hire" a particular material pathway made of material bodily vessels they enter as a passenger.

The individual jiva-soul enters (hires) a material bodily vessel's pathway that they journey on/in as its passenger, that matches their desires that are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world. 

Within Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world, every possible "combination of matter" exists that meets the individual jiva-souls needs that they desire for their journey through the material world.  

This includes the individual jiva-soul's voluntary expression (free will) already factored into the equation of their destiny within a particular material bodily vessel they have chosen to enter as its passenger explained above. 

Bhagavad-gītā As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7 - "O Arjuna, whatever you wish to see, behold at once in this body of Mine! This universal form can show you whatever you now desire to see and whatever you may want to see in the future. Everything moving and nonmoving is here completely, in one place." (BG, Ch 11 Text 7)

Srila Prabhupada  - "No one can see the entire universe while sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe. But a devotee like Arjuna can see everything that exists in any part of the universe. Kṛṣṇa gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, Arjuna is able to see everything." (BG, Ch 11 Text 7 Purport)

The great sages and devotees in previous ages thousands of years ago were "tri-kāla-jñā." meaning they could see all time, past, present and future, simultaneously or all at once. This means the past and future as the fabric of time, always exists in Maha-Visnu's material world.  

The individual jiva-souls who experience the journey through past, present and future housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel's pathway, are different from other individual jiva-souls who also experienced that same journey through time on that same pathway. 

This means the "pathway of material bodily vessels" are a permanent fixture in Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world which is also called Maha-Visnu's "block material universe" as explained above.

Tri-kāla-jñā means three main movements of time-

1 - What was in the past,

2 - What is at present.

3 - What shall happen in the future,

Over five thousand years ago, instructions from great Vedic sages were written down for this degraded age of Kali-yuga (the age of hypocrisy and quarrel). The sages and devotees back then could visit the past, the present, and the future and experience all these three movements of happening simultaneously.  

As said above, these sages were known as "tri-kāla-jñā," tri means three. Tri is a Sanskrit word, and three is a English or Latin word, both have the same meaning. 

Tri-kāla-jñā means one can see past, present and future simultaneously. Tri means three, and kāla means time. 

Material time is experienced in three ways-

past,
present,
future.

Material time is the movement along a material bodily vessel's pathway through past, present and future called "linear time" as explained above. 

Past, present and future only exists in the temporary material world (decaying matter) and not in the spiritual world (living anti-matter) where only the eternal presence of Krsna exists.

In the spiritual world there is no past or future, only the presence of "now" exists there. This means nothing ever decays, nor do devotees experience birth, disease, old age and death. 

1 - Material time means past, present and future exist with the side effects of birth, disease oldage, death, decay, constant maintenance. 

2 - Spiritual time means the eternal presence of Krsna exists which means there in no birth, disease old age, death, decay or maintenance.

The sages in those early days before Kali-yuga were tri-kāla-jñā meaning they could understand, experience and see all at once, what is in the past, what is at present and what is happening in the future.

In the Bhagavad gītā As It Is Kṛṣṇa says - "My Dear Arjuna, you, Me, I, and all these kings and soldiers who have assembled in this battlefield, they were all individuals, and we are still individual. And in this past, in the future, we shall all remain individuals. That past, present, and future, he explained. Another place Kṛṣṇa says, vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26). Atītāni, atītāni means past. Vartamānāni ca, "and present." So that is yogic power, one can know past, present, and future." (SB, Canto 12 Ch 2 text 1, San Francisco, March 18, 1968)

There is still a lot more to learn about the movement of the individual jiva-souls on their journey in a material bodily vessel as a passenger through material time's past, present and future.

We have only scratched the surface in understanding Vedic texts in the 61 years since Srila Prabhupada began making his valuable contribution to the western world in 1965.

Unlike the spiritual world's "eternal presence" of time (the eternal "now") where past and future do not exist and only the "eternal presence" of Krsna exists, the movement of material time in the temporary material world is eternally divided into past, present and future which is a roadway that has its beginning point (birth), middle (youth and middle age) and end (old age and death). 

This is only experienced by the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) while they are passengers in a temporary material bodily vessel (decaying matter) in the material world that is a pathway through past, present and future. This is the individual jiva-souls journey, housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel, moving through the temporary material world (the dreams of Maha-Visnu).

Temporary means the decaying progression of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, forced by the movement through material time's past, present and future and experiencing its side effects of birth, youth, middle age, old age, death, decay and the need for constant material maintenance.

Whereas in the spiritual world there is only the forever "eternal presence of Krsna" where everything is eternally fresh, youthful and never decomposes or fades away like material vessels and all matter does in the material world.

In the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), the individual jiva-souls (devotees) are their spiritual bodily form, who no longer possess a material bodily decaying covering or vessel they are in as a passenger within Maha-Visnu's temporary material world.

All material bodily vessels or bodily containers, are part of the decaying fabric of material energy within the temporary material world, created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu for the individual jiva-souls to be housed as passengers in. All decaying matter that includes all material bodily vessels, take up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky.

The other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky are the permanent eternally youthful unlimited spiritual worlds (living anti-matter) where individual spiritual personalities serve God within the "eternal presence of Krsna," beyond the decaying influence of past, present and future that causes birth, youth, middle age, old age and death of a material bodily vessel the individual jiva-soul are the passenger in within the temporary material world created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu. 

The material world's "temporary material bodily vessel's pathways" are made of decaying matter that the individual jiva-souls are housed in as its passenger, confined to the temporary material world created by the dreaming Maha-Visnu.  

The individual jiva-souls travel through the pathways of the temporary material world "housed" within Maha-Visnu's dreams of material bodily vessels, as a passenger. 

These material bodily containers (decaying matter) confine the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) within them, housed as a passenger. Such material bodily vessels are strictly under the laws of material nature an experience birth, disease, old age, death within Maha-Visnu's mundane material world.

Each material bodily vessel (decaying matter) is made of material energy that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) travel in as a passenger, moving along/through material time in its pathway of material bodily vessels. 

In other words, the individual jiva-souls are the temporary occupants or passengers housed on a pathway of decaying material bodily containers moving through material time's past, present and future, just like viewing the frame by frame by frame on a film canister that remains after watching the movie (after moving through material time) 

Technically "material dead energy" is dead because it is devoid of housing any individual jiva-souls (living units of anti-matter) is an all-one, all pervasive lifeless energy that houses the individual jiva-souls as a passenger in a material bodily vessel. 

In other words, the individual jiva-souls housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel in the material world, are covered by material energy in the form of a material bodily vessel once they enter the temporary material world created by Maha-Visnu. 

This means all material bodily forms (decaying matter) that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are housed as passengers in, means they are not those material bodily vessels they are passengers in, which are also pathways the individual jiva-souls pass through/on/as a passenger through Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world.  

The individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are the traveller on that pathway of material bodily vessels (decaying matter), this is called the block material universe.  

All material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are housed in as a passengers, move under linear time which means they experience moving in one direction along that pathway of material bodily vessels. 

In this way, because of linear time means moving forward, the individual jiva-souls housed as the passenger in a material bodily vessel, experience birth, youth, getting old and experiencing forgetfulness as the material body they are in as the passenger, breaks down, decomposes and wears out, and eventually becoming unfit for the individual jiva-souls to occupy. 

Matter (decaying material energy) in the material world, under the view of linear-time, eventually breaks down to dust and fossils then merges back into the "oneness" of material energy (lifeless matter). 

All material bodily vessels are ultimately impersonal decaying matter when no longer possessed by the presence of life. 

The individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) entered the material bodily container however, thei movement of ever material bodily vessel is caused by Maha-Visnu through His dreams.

Only the presence of the individual jiva-soul (living anti-matter) gives the appearance of "life" in the material world, giving all material bodily vessels to appear as alive when in fact only the individual jiva-souls housed in the material body as passengers is the only life. 

Of course there are millions of individual jiva-souls in a material bodily vessel as different species within cells, bacteria, viruses, stomach acids, mouth, on skin and in stool with a prominant individual jiva-soul being the main one who has the most control over the material body.   

The material bodily vessel is seen as moving and alive however, it only appears that way because of the presence of the individual jiva-souls within the material bodily vessels as the passenger explained above.  

As said above, the individual jiva-souls are living personalities of anti-matter, as an eternal spiritual bodily form in the spiritual world, but covered in the material world by a temporary decaying material bodily vessel. 

1 - "Matter" is lifeless dead energy in the material world that is what all material bodily vessels that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, are made of.

2 - "Anti-matter" is Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His Visnu-tattva expansions who are individual persons, and simultaneously all-pervasive (all-one) with both the spiritual and material worlds, and Krsna’s minor separated expansions known as the marginal living entities (the individual jiva-souls). 

The individual spiritual unit's (individual jiva-soul) full potential is in the spiritual world which is their natural home and origin, in fact all life comes from the spiritual world meaning no life originates from the material world, the Body of Maha-Visnu, or the impersonal brahmajyoti where individual dormant (inactive) jiva-souls in their fallen condition artificially appearing as a "spiritual individual spark" (not all-pervasive) appearing as a collective effulgence surrounding Krsna's spiritual Bodily Form.  

The Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) are the natural home and eternal position of all individual jiva-souls where they live as an eternal spiritual bodily form in a place where everything is alive and never decays like mundane matter in the material world does. 

Material energy (lifeless matter) does not exist in the spiritual world (everything as individual units of anti-matter), this means all material bodily vessels (decaying matter) do not exist in the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), they can only exist in the temporary material world created by Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu.  

The individual jiva-souls are living personalities of anti-matter, whereas the material energy has no life, it is simply dead matter that the individual jiva-souls in the material world are confined too housed as a passenger, giving the appearance the material bodily vessels are living, no, it it the individual life inside them that is living.

The individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) who choose to enter the material world, become a passenger housed in a material bodily vessel or covering (decaying matter). 

All material bodily vessels in the material world are "hired" off Maha-Visnu provided to the individual jiva-souls to be passengers in, so they can pursue their desires to try and enjoy separately from Krsna.  

All material bodily vessels and their pathways through the material world originate from Maha-Visnu's Library of Unlimited Dreams that simultaneously match the desires of the individual jiva-souls, and are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams that covers every combination, scenario and desires the individual jiva-souls have.

The individual jiva-soul housed in a material bodily vessel as a passenger, continues their journey through the material world life after life in different material bodily container's pathways always as the passenger. 

The material bodily vessel can also be achieved from the accumulation of the reactions (karma) from acting out their desires in the human bodily form, creating pious and impious reactions however, only in a human material bodily form does the individual jiva-souls create Karma (due to free will) and not in the lower species of life where free will does not exist and only material bodily instincts exist.

There is no Karma for the individual jiva-souls in the lower species of life (8 million different species) where each species of life acts only on the instincts of eating, sleeping, mating and defending and not free will only found in the humans species.  

From the viewpoint of Maha-Visnu and the great sages and devotee's of Krsna/Visnu, they can see past, present and future in the material world all existing simultaneously, just like from above a roadway, one can see the beginning, middle and end of that roadway all at once.  

Similarly, from seeing above the movement of progressing through material time's, past, present and future, frame by frame like on a film canister, one can see that the individual jiva-souls are housed on a journey as the passenger in a material bodily vessel's pathway that belongs to Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the His temporary material world.

Maha-Visnu's "hired out" dream pathways of unlimited material bodily containers, are created by Him to give facilities and purpose to those individual jiva-souls to be passengers in, who choose to leave the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and instead enter Maha-Visnu's material world made up of His dreams that includes all material bodily vessels and their pathways through material time the individual jiva-souls enter as the passenger.  

Because material energy is eternal, it is possible that the material desires of an individual jiva-soul who remains in the temporary material world long enough, to eventually come to a point over that endless span of eternity, to repeat their existence in the material world. 

Such a bizarre jurisdiction in the temporary material world usually is part of Lord Siva's interest who also wants to save these lost individual jiva-souls trapped in eternally repeating their existence in the mundane material world.  

Remember, the always changing material energy (lifeless energy) that covers the individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) with a material bodily vessel, is eternal, this means the "decaying matter" that makes up the material world and always material bodily containers is "all-one all-pervasive lifeless energy" that has no beginning or end, and always exists as 25% of Krsna’s Spiritual Sky called Maha-Visnu's material creation.  

Every possible outcome that the individual jiva-souls can dream up over eternity exists within the dreams of Maha-Visnu. As said above, this means every combination of material elements would be exhausted to the point they would again repeat themselves over that eternity if an individual jiva-soul foolishly stays in the material world long enough.  

In other words, if the individual jiva-souls who choose to remain in the material world for an almost eternity, it is possible for them to experience this phenomenon because the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are also eternal living entities without beginning or end.

So what is really going on?

Even though the material energy is temporary, where all material bodily vessels that houses the individual jiva-souls as the passenger, are always in a constant state of decay and decline, in need of endless maintenance due to the influence of material time's past, present and future, this impersonal material time is constantly rearranging its composition of material energy, changing its appearance and always on the move that houses the individual jiva-souls in material bodily vessels that all belong to the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

In this way, the material bodily vessels that houses the individual jiva-souls, are within those material bodily container as its passenger and are clearly not the material body.

When the material bodily vessel decay and destroyed at the end of its linear time through its journey over past, present and future, the individual jiva-souls within are released due to the material vessel they are in wears out and becomes unit to occupy as its passenger any more, and moves on to another suitable material bodily vessel and its pathway however, the decaying material energy only changes and never disappears.

Under the block material universe viewpoint, one can see above flowing through material time's past, present and future, just like one can see the beginning, middle and end of a roadway all at the same time.

Experiencing linear time's past, present and future is only in the material world, where individual jiva-soul are housed in a material bodily vessel as the passenger, experiencing the material journey through birth, youth, middle age, old age and death, which are the dreams of Maha-Visnu in His material world.  

From a higher viewpoint, above the influence of material mundane time, all material bodily pathways moving through past, present and future, all existing simultaneously in Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world known as the block material universe.

The individual jiva-souls pass through those pathways made of material bodily vessels like one passes along an already made roadway.

Many have asked, could the all activities of a material bodily vessel one chooses from Maha-Visnu's dreams to occupy as the passenger, continuously happen in the material universe  with another group of individual jiva-souls playing that same part also moving along through material time?

The answer is yes, in fact that is exactly what's going on.

This is because past, present and future are always there happening simultaneously as the permanent fixture in the fabric of material time.

This means all material bodily vessels occupied by the individual jiva-souls as its passenger, are a permanent fixture of the material energy, like a roadway is a permanent pathway through a city, or like seeing the frame after frame on a movie camera reel always existing after one views them.

Many individual jiva-souls travel on that same roadway of material bodily vessels, along that same pathway of material bodily containers moving through past, present and future in Maha-Visnu's material world, experiencing the same journey in the material world in those material bodily vessels others have also travelled in/through.

This is the real meaning of what the block material universe is.

Lord Brahma's material bodily vessel is also a "hired" position or post in the material world that many individual jiva-souls can experience if they are qualified to enter that material bodily vessel or post.

All material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, are "hired" from Maha-Visnu (God) from His vast dreams. 

This further means those individual jiva-souls with the right qualifactions can experience any material bodily vessel they desire, but only if they deserve it.

To enter a material bodily vessel as a traveller on a journey through the temporary material world, all individual jiva-soul must first qualify to enter a particular material bodily vessel created by Maha-Visnu as its passenger that is in-sync with their own desires.

This also takes into account karma, which means one's past good and bad actions will force one to accept a material bodily vessel they deserve out of 8 million 400 thousand species in the material world. 

The individual jiva-souls must always be qualified to enter a particular material bodily vessel, pious or impious, or any material bodily container they choose to be its passenger, based on what they deserve, desire, rewarded with and punished with. 

Once in the material world after leaving the spiritual world, the individual jiva-souls must eventually "hire" a material bodily vessel from Maha-Visnu's dreams that simultaneously match their own desires or karma (the results of past good and bad deeds if they are already in the material world).  

The material bodily vessel's pathway the individual jiva-souls are passengers in/on, are a permanent fixture in the material energy that moves through past, present and future. This means every step along the pathway of material bodily containers exists eternally as Maha-Visnu's block material universe that the individual jiva-souls journey on through the material world on that pathway of material bodily vessels as the passenger.

The material bodily vessels are not living persons, they are decaying lifeless containers that unlimited individual jiva-souls occupy within bacteria, viruses, bugs, cells etc used as a vehicle by them where one individual jiva-soul is the prominent passenger in that material container. 

The prominent living individual person in those decaying material bodily containers only have the intelligence to advance in spiritual life and return back home back to Godhead. 

All other individual jiva-souls also living in the various material bodily parts, are trapped in the lower species confined to the material bodies of various bugs, cells, stool, blood, brain substance etc that are also in the material bodily vessel.


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The individual jiva-soul (living individual units of anti-matter) originated from their real home in the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God).

The material bodily vessel is made of material elements (decaying matter) that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are covered by and travels in as a passenger while confined to the temporary material world.

As said above, the individual jiva-soul (living anti-matter) is the real individual person as a eternal spiritual bodily form, and not the material bodily vessel which is a decaying container that only carries the individual jiva-souls as its passenger. 

All a material bodily vessels or containers are not a living person, they are a decaying coverings or containers made of material energy that house the eternal individual jiva-soul in it as the passenger.

The fact is, as said above, every cell within the material bodily vessel also houses an individual jiva-soul however, their consciousness is not developed and rank among the lower almost inactive species, unlike the prominent individual jiva-soul whose intelligence is on the human platform and stand out individual jiva-soul "housed" in that material bodily vessel.  

So, who really are the famous and infamous personalities like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Winston Churchill, John Kennedy etc? 

Actually the answer is no-one because each material bodily vessel that the individual jiva-souls are in as its passenger, are not a living individual person at all, it is a decaying material container made of temporary material energy that is occupied by the individual jiva-souls housed as the a passenger. 

All material bodily vessel's pathways are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world and always remain His property and not the property of the individual jiva-souls who are in them as as passenger.

The fact is, it is possible that any individual jiva-soul, as long as they qualify, can experience the material bodily vessel of a Hitler, or Stalin, Churchill etc, or a material bodily vessel similar if desired, deserved and qualified to enter.

This means over eternity, many individual jiva-souls have also travelled those same pathways of material bodily vessels which are a permanent fixture within the dreams of Maha-Visnu's material world. 

The dreams of Maha-Visnu are also called the "block material universe" which means past, present and future always exist as a movement of material bodily vessels existing through every stage of all material time with different individual jiva-souls passing through those pathways as the passenger of those material bodily vessels.

In fact as explained above, an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls experience those material bodily pathways of the rich, famous and infamous whose material bodily vessels they occupy as its passenger, are a permanent fixtures in the fabric of time that moves on a journey through past, present and future in the material world. 

All material bodily pathways (vessels) are "hired" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, just like one reads a "loaned-out" book in a Library that is always available to others for loan also similarly, Maha-Visnu's "Library of material dreams" are available to every individual jiva-soul who choose to enter the material world.  

As explained, each material bodily pathway (decaying material bodily vessel) the individual jiva-souls are on as a passenger, are from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

Maha-Visnu's dreams, that includes all material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are housed in as the passenger, are a permanent fixture within His material energies. 

Within Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world, exists unlimited material bodily vehicles for the individual jiva-souls to travel in as the passenger however, no individual jiva-souls are created by Maha-Visnu, or come from His material world, or the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti, they all enter His material world after leaving the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.  

 However, as explained above, only less than 10% of individual jiva-souls voluntarily choose to leave the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) and enter the temporary material world (decaying matter) where they "hire" a material bodily vessel and its pathway (made of material bodies) from Maha-Visnu's "dreams" and simultaneously experience their own dreams (desires) that are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams.

In other words, the material bodily vessel (decaying matter) that houses the individual jiva-soul as a passenger, is not a living spiritual person, it is a decaying material container that contains the individual jiva-soul within it. The individual jiva-soul in their full potential, is an eternal spiritual bodily form whose eternal natural original home is the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vṛndāvana.  

Kṛṣṇa and all of His various expansions (both Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva) are the individual life-force that eternally exists in the spiritual world, but also enters the decaying material world. 

The material bodily vessel (decaying matter) is the outer material covering that houses the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) as a passenger on a journey through the temporary material world that are the dreams of the sleeping Maha-Visnu. 







Saturday, September 26, 2026

"Further Talks Between King Rahūgaṇa and Jaḍa Bharata."

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 13 text 1 to text 26.

By His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

The brāhmaṇa Jaḍa Bharata became very kind to King Rahūgaṇa, and to disassociate him from the material world, he spoke figuratively of the forest of the material world. He explained that this material world is like a great forest in which one becomes entangled due to association with material life. 

In this forest there are plunderers (the six senses) as well as carnivorous animals like jackals, wolves and lions (wife, children and other relatives) who are always anxious to suck the blood from the head of the family. The forest plunderers and the carnivorous blood-sucking animals combine to exploit the energy of a man within this material world. 

In this forest there is also a black hole, covered by grass, into which one may fall. Coming into the forest and being captivated by so many material attractions, one identifies himself with this material world, society, friendship, love and family. Having lost the path and not knowing where to go, being harassed by animals and birds, one is also victimized by many desires. 

Thus one works very hard within the forest and wanders here and there. He becomes captivated by temporary happiness and becomes aggrieved by so-called distress. Actually one simply suffers in the forest from so-called happiness and distress. 

Sometimes he is attacked by a snake (deep sleep), and due to the snakebite he loses consciousness and becomes puzzled and bewildered about discharging his duties. Sometimes he is attracted by women other than his wife, and thus be thinks he enjoys extramarital love with another woman. 

He is attacked by various diseases, by lamentation and by summer and winter. Thus one within the forest of the material world suffers the pains of material existence. Expecting to become happy, the living entity changes his position from one place to another, but actually a materialistic person within the material world is never happy. 

Being constantly engaged in materialistic activities, he is always disturbed. He forgets that one day he has to die. Although he suffers severely, being illusioned by the material energy, he still hankers after material happiness. 

In this way he completely forgets his relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead.By hearing this from Jaḍa Bharata, Mahārāja Rahūgaṇa revived his Kṛṣṇa consciousness and thus benefited from Jaḍa Bharata’s association. He could understand that his illusion was over, and he begged pardon from Jaḍa Bharata for his misbehavior. All this was told to Mahārāja Parīkṣit by Śukadeva Gosvāmī.

Text 1

Jaḍa Bharata, who had fully realized Brahman, continued: My dear King Rahūgaṇa, the living entity wanders on the path of the material world, which is very difficult for him to traverse, and he accepts repeated birth and death. 

Being captivated by the material world under the influence of the three modes of material nature (sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa and tamo-guṇa), the living entity can see only the three fruits of activities under the spell of material nature. 

These fruits are auspicious, inauspicious and mixed. He thus becomes attached to religion, economic development, sense gratification and the monistic theory of liberation (merging with the Supreme). 

He works very hard day and night exactly like a merchant who enters a forest to acquire some articles to sell later for profit. However, he cannot really achieve happiness within this material world.

Purport:

One can very easily understand how difficult and insurmountable the path of sense gratification is. Not knowing what the path of sense gratification is, one becomes implicated in the repetition of birth and accepts different types of bodies again and again. Thus one suffers in material existence. In this life one may think that he is very happy being an American, Indian, Englishman or German, but in the next life one has to accept another body among 8,400,000 species. 

The next body has to be immediately accepted according to karma. One will be forced to accept a certain type of body, and protesting will not help. That is the stringent law of nature. Due to the living entity’s ignorance of his eternal blissful life, he becomes attracted to material activities under the spell of māyā. In this world, he can never experience happiness, yet he works very hard to do so. This is called māyā.

Text 2

O King Rahūgaṇa, in this forest of material existence there are six very powerful plunderers. When the conditioned soul enters the forest to acquire some material gain, the six plunderers misguide him. Thus the conditioned merchant does not know how to spend his money, and it is taken away by these plunderers. Like tigers, jackals and other ferocious animals in a forest that are ready to take away a lamb from the custody of its protector, the wife and children enter the heart of the merchant and plunder him in so many ways.

Purport: 

In the forest there are many plunderers, dacoits, jackals and tigers. The jackals are compared to one’s wife and children. In the dead of night, jackals cry very loudly, and similarly one’s wife and children in this material world also cry like jackals. The children say, 

“Father, this is wanted; give me this. I am your dear son.” Or the wife says, “I am your dear wife. Please give me this. This is now needed.” 

In this way one is plundered by the thieves in the forest. Not knowing the aim of human life, one is constantly being misguided. The aim of life is Viṣṇu (na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇum [SB 7.5.31]). Everyone works very hard to earn money, but no one knows that his real self-interest is in serving the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

Instead of spending money for advancing the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, one spends his hard-earned money on clubs, brothels, liquor, slaughterhouses and so forth. Due to sinful activities, one becomes implicated in the process of transmigration and thus has to accept one body after another. Being thus absorbed in a distressed condition, one never attains happiness.

Text 3

In this forest there are dense bowers composed of thickets of bushes, grass and creepers. In these bowers the conditioned soul is always disturbed by cruelly biting mosquitoes [envious people]. Sometimes he sees an imaginary palace in the forest, and sometimes he is bewildered by seeing a fleeting fiend or ghost, which appears like a meteor in the sky.

Purport:

The material household is actually a hole of fruitive activity. To earn a livelihood one engages in different industries and trades, and sometimes one performs great sacrifices to go to higher planetary systems. Apart from this, at least everyone is engaged in earning a livelihood in some profession or occupation. In these dealings, one has to meet many undesirable people, and their behavior is compared to the biting of mosquitoes. 

This creates very undesirable conditions. Even in the midst of these disturbances, one imagines that he is going to construct a grand house and live there permanently, although he knows that he cannot. Gold is compared to a quickly fleeting fiend, which appears like a meteor in the sky. It displays itself for a moment and is then gone. Generally karmīs are attracted to gold or money, but these are compared herein to ghosts and witches.

Text 4

My dear King, the merchant on the forest path of the material world, his intelligence victimized by home, wealth, relatives and so forth, runs from one place to another in search of success. Sometimes his eyes are covered by the dust of a whirlwind—that is to say, in his lust he is captivated by the beauty of his wife, especially during her menstrual period. Thus his eyes are blinded, and he cannot see where to go or what he is doing.

Purport:

It is said that household attraction resides in the wife because sex is the center of household life: yan maithunādi-gṛhamedhi-sukhaṁ hi tuccham [SB 7.9.45]. A materialistic person, making his wife the center of attraction, works very hard day and night. His only enjoyment in material life is sexual intercourse. 

Therefore karmīs are attracted to women as friends or wives. Indeed, they cannot work without sex. Under the circumstances the wife is compared to a whirlwind, especially during her menstrual period. Those who strictly follow the rules and regulations of householder life engage in sex only once a month, at the end of the menstrual period. 

As one looks forward to this opportunity, his eyes are overwhelmed by the beauty of his wife. Thus it is said that the whirlwind covers the eyes with dust. Such a lusty person does not know that all his material activities are being observed by different demigods, especially the sun-god, and are being recorded for the karma of one’s next body. Astrological calculations are called jyoti-śāstra. Because the jyoti, or effulgence, in the material world comes from the different stars and planets, the science is called jyoti-śāstra, the science of the luminaries. 

By the calculations of jyoti, our future is indicated. In other words, all the luminaries—the stars, sun and moon—witness the activities of the conditioned soul. Thus he is awarded a particular type of body. 

A lusty, person whose eyes are covered by the dust of the whirlwind or material existence does not at all consider that his activities are being observed by different stars and planets and are being recorded. Not knowing this, the conditioned soul commits all kinds of sinful activities for the satisfaction of his lusty desires.

Text 5

Wandering in the forest of the material world, the conditioned soul sometimes hears an invisible cricket making harsh sounds, and his ears become very much aggrieved. Sometimes his heart is pained by the sounds of owls, which are just like the harsh words of his enemies. 

Sometimes he takes shelter of a tree that has no fruits or flowers. He approaches such a tree due to his strong appetite, and thus he suffers. He would like to acquire water, but he is simply illusioned by a mirage, and he runs after it.

Purport:

In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is said that the Bhāgavata philosophy is meant for people who are completely free from envy (paramo nirmatsarāṇām). The material world is full of envious people. Even within one’s inner circle there is much backbiting, and this is compared to the sound vibration of a cricket in the forest. One cannot see the cricket, but one bears its sounds and thus becomes aggrieved. When one takes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, one always hears unpalatable words from relatives. 

This is the nature of the world; one cannot avoid mental distress due to the backbiting of envious people. Being very much aggrieved, sometimes one goes to a sinful person for help, but he has no means to help because he has no intelligence. Thus the living entity is disappointed. This is like running after a mirage in the desert in an effort to find water. Such activities do not produce any tangible results. Due to being directed by the illusory energy, a conditioned soul suffers in so many ways.

Text 6

Sometimes the conditioned soul jumps into a shallow river, or being short of food grains, he goes to beg food from people who are not at all charitable. Sometimes he suffers from the burning heat of household life, which is like a forest fire, and sometimes he becomes sad to have his wealth, which is as dear as life, plundered by kings in the name of heavy income taxes.

Purport:

When one is hot due to the scorching sun, one sometimes jumps into a river to gain relief. However, if the river is almost dried up and the water is too shallow, one may break his bones by jumping in. The conditioned soul is always experiencing miserable conditions. Sometimes his efforts to get help from friends are exactly like jumping into a dry river. By such actions, he does not derive any benefit. He only breaks his bones. Sometimes, suffering from a shortage of food, one may go to a person who is neither able to give charity nor willing to do so. 

Sometimes one is stationed in household life, which is compared to a forest fire (saṁsāra-dāvānala-līḍha-loka). When a man is heavily taxed by the government, he becomes very sad. Heavy taxation obliges one to hide his income, but despite this endeavor the government agents are often so vigilant and strong that they take all the money anyway, and the conditioned soul becomes very aggrieved.

Thus people are trying to become happy within the material world, but this is like trying to be happy in a forest fire. No one need go to a forest to set it ablaze: fire takes place automatically. 

Similarly, no one wants to be unhappy in family life or worldly life, but by the laws of nature unhappiness and distress are forced upon everyone. To become dependent on another’s maintenance is very degrading; therefore, according to the Vedic system, everyone should live independently. 

Only the śūdras are unable to live independently. They are obliged to serve someone for maintenance. It is said in the śāstras: kalau śūdra-sambhavāḥ. In this age of Kali, everyone is dependent on another’s mercy for the maintenance of the body; therefore everyone is classified as a śūdra. 

In the Twelfth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is said that in Kali-yuga the government will levy taxes without reciprocally benefiting the citizens. Anāvṛṣṭyā vinaṅkṣyanti durbhikṣa-kara-pīḍitāḥ. In this age there will also be a shortage of rain; therefore a scarcity of food will arise, and the citizens will be very much harassed by government taxation. In this way the citizens will abandon their attempts to lead a peaceful life and will leave their homes and hearths and go to the forest in sheer disappointment.

Text 7

Sometimes, being defeated or plundered by a superior, powerful agent, a living entity loses all his possessions. He then becomes very morose, and lamenting their loss, he sometimes becomes unconscious. Sometimes he imagines a great palatial city in which he desires to live happily with his family members and riches. He thinks himself fully satisfied if this is possible, but such so-called happiness continues only for a moment.

Purport.

The word gandharva-puram is very significant in this verse. Sometimes in the forest a very big castle appears, and this is called a castle in the air. Actually this castle does not exist anywhere but in one’s imagination. This is called gandharva-pura. In the material forest, the conditioned soul sometimes contemplates great castles and skyscrapers, and he wastes his energy for such things, hoping to live in them very peacefully with his family forever. However, the laws of nature do not allow this. 

When he enters such castles, he temporarily thinks that he is very happy, even though his happiness is impermanent. His happiness may last for a few years, but because the owner of the castle has to leave the castle at the time of death, everything is eventually lost. 

This is the way of worldly transactions. Such happiness is described by Vidyāpati as the happiness one derives upon seeing a drop of water in the desert. The desert is heated by scorching sunshine, and if we want to reduce the desert temperature, we need huge amounts of water—millions and millions of gallons. What effect will one drop have? 

Water certainly has value, but one drop of water cannot reduce the heat of the desert. In this material world everyone is ambitious, but the heat is very scorching. What will an imaginary castle in the air do to help? Śrīla Vidyāpati has therefore sung: tāṭala saikate, vāri-bindu-sama, suta-mita-ramaṇi-samāje. 

The happiness of family life, friends and society is compared to a drop of water in the scorching desert. The entire material world is busy trying to attain happiness because happiness is the prerogative of the living being. 

Unfortunately, due to falling in contact with the material world, the living entity simply struggles for existence. Even if one becomes happy for a while, a very powerful enemy may plunder everything. There are many instances in which big businessmen suddenly become paupers in the street. Yet the nature of material existence is such that foolish people are attracted to these transactions and they forget the real business of self-realization.

Text 8

Sometimes the merchant in the forest wants to climb the hills and mountains, but due to insufficient footwear, his feet are pricked by small stone fragments and by thorns on the mountain. Being pricked by them, he becomes very aggrieved. Sometimes a person who is very attached to his family becomes overwhelmed with hunger, and due to his miserable condition he becomes furious with his family members.

Purport:

The ambitious conditioned soul wants to be very happy in this material world with his family, but he is compared to a traveler in the forest who desires to climb a hill full of thorns and small stones. 

As stated in the previous verse, the happiness derived from society, friendship and love is like a drop of water in the scorching heat of the desert. One may want to become very great and powerful in society, but this is like attempting to climb a hill full of thorns. Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura compares one’s family to high mountains. 

Becoming happy in their association is like a hungry man’s endeavoring to climb a mountain full of thorns. Almost 99.9 percent of the population is unhappy in family life, despite all the attempts being made to satisfy the family members. In the Western countries, due to the dissatisfaction of the family members. there is actually no family life. There are many cases of divorce, and out of dissatisfaction, the children leave the protection of their parents. Especially in this age of Kali, family life is being reduced. Everyone is becoming self-centered because that is the law of nature. 

Even if one has sufficient money to maintain a family, the situation is such that no one is happy in family life. Consequently according to the varṇāśrama institution, one has to retire from family life in middle age: pacāśordhvaṁ vanaṁ vrajet. One should voluntarily retire from family life at the age of fifty and go to Vṛndāvana or a forest. This is recommended by Śrīla Prahlāda Mahārāja (Bhāg. 7.5.5):

tat sādhu manye ’sura-varya dehināṁ

sadā samudvigna-dhiyām asad-grahāt

hitvātma-pātaṁ gṛham andha-kūpaṁ

vanaṁ gato yad dharim āśrayeta

There is no benefit in transferring from one forest to another. One must go to the Vṛndāvana forest and take shelter of Govinda. That will make one happy. The International Society for Krishna Consciousness is therefore constructing a Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma temple to invite its members as well as outsiders to come and live peacefully in a spiritual atmosphere. That will help one become elevated to the transcendental world and return home, back to Godhead. 

Another sentence in this verse is very significant: kauṭumbikaḥ krudhyati vai janāya. When one’s mind is disturbed in so many ways, he satisfies himself by becoming angry with his poor wife and children. The wife and children are naturally dependent on the father, but the father, being unable to maintain the family properly, becomes mentally distressed and therefore chastises the family members unnecessarily. 

As stated in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (12.2.9):

ācchinna-dāra-draviṇā yāsyanti giri-kānanam. 

Being disgusted with family life, one separates from the family by divorce or some other means. If one has to separate, why not separate willingly? Systematic separation is better than forced separation. Forced separation cannot make anyone happy, but by mutual consent or by the Vedic arrangement one must separate from his family affairs at a certain age and fully depend on Kṛṣṇa. This makes one’s life successful.

Text 9

The conditioned soul in the material forest is sometimes swallowed by a python or crushed. At such a time he is left lying in the forest like a dead person, devoid of consciousness and knowledge. Sometimes other poisonous snakes bite him. Being blind to his consciousness, he falls down into a dark well of hellish life with no hope of being rescued.

Purport: 

When one becomes unconscious due to being bitten by a snake, one cannot understand what is taking place outside the body. This unconscious condition is the condition of deep sleep. Similarly, the conditioned soul is actually sleeping on the lap of the illusory energy. Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura has sung, kota nidrā yāo māyā-piśācīra kole: 

“O living entity, how long will you sleep in this condition on the lap of the illusory energy?” 

People do not understand that they are actually sleeping in this material world, being devoid of knowledge of spiritual life. Caitanya Mahāprabhu therefore says:

enechi auṣadhi māyā nāśibāra lāgi’

hari-nāma-mahā-mantra lao tumi māgi’

“I have brought medicine to awaken every living being from perpetual sleep. Please receive the holy name of the Lord, the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra, and awaken.” 

The Kaṭha Upaniṣad (1.3.14) also says, uttiṣṭha jāgrata prāpya varān nibodhata: 

“O living entity, you are sleeping in this material world. Please get up and take advantage of your human form of life.” 

The sleeping condition means loss of all knowledge. In Bhagavad-gītā (2.69) it is also said, yā niśā sarva-bhūtānāṁ tasyāṁ jāgarti saṁyamī: 

“What is night for all beings is the time of awakening for the self-controlled.” 

Even in the higher planets, everyone is under the spell of the illusory energy. No one is really interested in the real values of life. The sleeping condition, called kāla-sarpa (the time factor), keeps the conditioned soul in a state of ignorance, and therefore pure consciousness is lost. In the forest there are many blind wells, and if one falls down in one there is no chance of being rescued. In a state of sleep, one remains perpetually bitten by some animals, especially snakes.

Text 10

Sometimes, in order to have a little insignificant sex enjoyment, one searches after debauched women. In this attempt, one is insulted and chastised by the women’s kinsmen. This is like going to take honey from a beehive and being attacked by the bees. Sometimes, after spending lots of money, one may acquire another woman for some extra sense enjoyment. Unfortunately, the object of sense enjoyment, the woman, is taken away or kidnapped by another debauchee.

Purport: 

In a great forest, honeycombs are very important. People often go there to collect honey from the combs, and sometimes the bees attack and punish them. In human society, those who are not Kṛṣṇa conscious remain in the forest of material life simply for the honey of sex life. Such debauchees are not at all satisfied with one wife. They want many women. 

Day after day, with great difficulty, they try to secure such women, and sometimes, while trying to taste this kind of honey, one is attacked by a woman’s kinsmen and chastised very heavily. By bribing others, one may secure another woman for enjoyment, yet another debauchee may kidnap her or offer her something better. 

This woman hunting is going on in the forest of the material world, sometimes legally, and sometimes illegally. Consequently in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement the devotees are forbidden to have illicit sex. Thus they avoid so many difficulties. One should remain satisfied with one woman, being duly married. One can satisfy one’s lusty desires with his wife without creating disturbances in society and being punished for doing so.

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Sometimes the living entity is busy counteracting the natural disturbances of freezing cold, scorching heat, strong wind, excessive rainfall and so forth. When he is unable to do so, he becomes very unhappy. Sometimes he is cheated in business transactions one after another. In this way, by cheating, living entities create enmity among themselves.

Purport:

This is an example of the struggle for existence, the attempt to counteract the onslaught of material nature. This creates enmity in society, and consequently society is filled with envious people. One person is envious of another, and this is the way of the material world. The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement aims at creating an atmosphere of non-envy. Of course it is not possible for everyone to become Kṛṣṇa conscious, but the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement can create an exemplary society wherein there is no envy.

Text 12

On the forest path of material existence, sometimes a person is without wealth and due to this does not have a proper home, bed or sitting place, nor proper family enjoyment. He therefore goes to beg money from others, but when his desires are not fulfilled by begging, he wants to borrow or steal the property of others. Thus he is insulted in society.

Purport: 

The principles of beg, borrow or steal are very appropriate in this material world. When one is in want, he begs, borrows or steals. If begging is unsuccessful, he borrows. If he cannot pay, he steals, and when he is caught, he is insulted. This is the law of material existence. No one can live here very honestly; therefore by trickery, cheating, begging, borrowing or stealing, one tries to satisfy his senses. Thus no one in this material world is living peacefully.

Text 13

Due to monetary transactions, relationships become very strained and end in enmity. Sometimes the husband and wife walk on the path of material progress, and to maintain their relationship they work very hard. Sometimes due to scarcity of money or due to diseased conditions, they are embarrassed and almost die.

Purport: 

In this material world, there are many transactions between peoples and societies as well as between nations, but gradually these end in enmity between the two parties. Similarly, in the marriage relationship, monetary transactions are sometimes overpowered by the dangerous conditions of material life. 

One then becomes diseased or monetarily embarrassed. In the modern age most countries have developed economically, but due to business exchanges, relationships seem to be strained. Finally wars are declared between nations, and as a result of these upheavals there is destruction all over the world, and people suffer heavily.

Text 14

My dear King, on the forest path of material life, first a person is bereft of his father and mother, and after their death he becomes attached to his newly born children. In this way he wanders on the path of material progress and is eventually embarrassed. Nonetheless, no one knows how to get out of this, even up to the moment of death.

Purport: 

In this material world, family life is an institution of sex.

Yan maithunādi gṛhamedhi-sukham (Bhāg. 7.9.45). 

Through sex, the father and mother beget children, and the children get married and go down the same path of sexual life. After the death of the father and mother, the children get married and beget their own children. Thus generation after generation these things go on in the same way without anyone’s attaining liberation from the embarrassment of material life. 

No one accepts the spiritual processes of knowledge and renunciation, which end in bhakti-yoga. Actually human life is meant for jāna and vairāgya, knowledge and renunciation. Through these one can attain the platform of devotional service. Unfortunately people in this age avoid the association of liberated people (sādhu-saṅga) and continue in their stereotyped way of family life. Thus they are embarrassed by the exchange of money and sex.

Text 15

There were and are many political and social heroes who have conquered enemies of equal power, yet due to their ignorance in believing that the land is theirs, they fight one another and lay down their lives in battle. They are not able to take up the spiritual path accepted by those in the renounced order. Although they are big heroes and political leaders, they cannot take to the path of spiritual realization.

Purport: 

Big political leaders might be able to conquer equally powerful political enemies, but unfortunately they cannot subdue their strong senses, the enemies that always accompany them. Not being able to conquer these nearby enemies, they simply try to conquer other enemies. and ultimately they die in the struggle for existence. 

They do not take to the path of spiritual realization or become sannyāsīs. Sometimes these big leaders take up the guise of a sannyāsī and call themselves mahātmās, but their only business is conquering their political enemies. Because they spoil their lives with the illusion of “this is my land and my family,” they cannot progress spiritually and attain liberation from the clutches of māyā.

Text 16

Sometimes the living entity in the forest of material existence takes shelter of creepers and desires to hear the chirping of the birds in those creepers. Being afraid of roaring lions in the forest, he makes friends with cranes, herons and vultures.

Purport: 

In the forest of the material world there are many animals and birds, trees and creepers. Sometimes the living entity wants to take shelter of the creepers; in other words, he wants to be happy by being embraced by the creeperlike arms of his wife. Within the creepers there are many chirping birds; this indicates that he wants to satisfy himself by hearing the sweet voice of his wife. In old age, however, he sometimes becomes afraid of imminent death, which is compared to a roaring lion. 

To save himself from the lion’s attack, he takes shelter of some bogus svāmīs, yogīs, incarnations, pretenders and cheaters. Being misled by the illusory energy in this way, he spoils his life. It is said, hariṁ vinā mṛtiṁ na taranti: no one can be saved from the imminent danger of death without taking shelter of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The word hari indicates the lion as well as the Supreme Lord. To be saved from the hands of Hari, the lion of death, one must take shelter of the supreme Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

People with a poor fund of knowledge take shelter of nondevotee cheaters and pretenders in order to be saved from the clutches of death. In the forest of the material world, the living entity first of all wants to be very happy by taking shelter of the creeperlike arms of his wife and hearing her sweet voice. Later, he sometimes takes shelter of so-called gurus and sādhus who are like crane, herons and vultures. Thus he is cheated both ways by not taking shelter of the Supreme Lord.

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Being cheated by them, the living entity in the forest of the material world tries to give up the association of these so-called yogīs, svāmīs and incarnations and come to the association of real devotees, but due to misfortune he cannot follow the instructions of the spiritual master or advanced devotees; therefore he gives up their company and again returns to the association of monkeys who are simply interested in sense gratification and women. 

He derives satisfaction by associating with sense gratifiers and enjoying sex and intoxication. In this way he spoils his life simply by indulging in sex and intoxication. Looking into the faces of other sense gratifiers, he becomes forgetful and thus approaches death.

Purport: 

Sometimes a foolish person becomes disgusted with bad association and comes to the association of devotees and brāhmaṇas and takes initiation from a spiritual master. As advised by the spiritual master, he tries to follow the regulative principles, but due to misfortune he cannot follow the instructions of the spiritual master. 

He therefore gives up the company of devotees and goes to associate with simian people who are simply interested in sex and intoxication. Those who are so-called spiritualists are compared to monkeys. 

Outwardly, monkeys sometimes resemble sādhus because they live naked in the forest and pick fruits, but their only desire is to keep many female monkeys and enjoy sex life. Sometimes so-called spiritualists seeking a spiritual life come to associate with Kṛṣṇa conscious devotees, but they cannot execute the regulative principles or follow the path of spiritual life. 

Consequently they leave the association of devotees and go to associate with sense gratifiers, who are compared to monkeys. Again they revive their sex and intoxication, and looking at one another’s faces, they are thus satisfied. In this way they pass their lives up to the point of death.

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When the living entity becomes exactly like a monkey jumping from one branch to another, he remains in the tree of household life without any profit but sex. Thus he is kicked by his wife just like the he-ass. Unable to gain release, he remains helplessly in that position. Sometimes he falls victim to am incurable disease, which is like falling into a mountain cave. He becomes afraid of death, which is like the elephant in the back of that cave, and he remains stranded, grasping at the twigs and branches of a creeper.

Purport:

The precarious condition of a householder’s life is described herein. A householder’s life is full of misery, and the only attraction is sex with the wife who kicks him during sexual intercourse, just as the she-ass does her mate. Due to continuous sex life, he falls victim to many incurable diseases. At that time, being afraid of death, which is like an elephant. he remains hanging from the twigs and branches of the tree, just like a monkey.

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O killer of enemies, Mahārāja Rahūgaṇa, if the conditioned soul somehow or other gets out of his dangerous position, he again returns to his home to enjoy sex life, for that is the way of attachment. Thus, under the spell of the Lord’s material energy, he continues to loiter in the forest of material existence. He does not discover his real interest even at the point of death.

Purport:

This is the way of material life. When one is captured by sexual attraction, he becomes implicated in so many ways and cannot understand the real aim of life. Therefore Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (7.5.31) says, na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇum: generally people do not understand the ultimate goal of life. As stated in the Vedas, oṁ tad viṣṇoḥ paramaṁ padaṁ sadā paśyanti sūrayaḥ: those who are spiritually advanced simply look to the lotus feet of Viṣṇu. The conditioned soul. however, not being interested in reviving his relationship with Viṣṇu, becomes captivated by material activities and remains in everlasting bondage, being misled by so-called leaders.

Text 20

My dear King Rahūgaṇa, you are also a victim of the external energy, being situated on the path of attraction to material pleasure. So that you may become an equal friend to all living entities, I now advise you to give up your kingly position and the rod by which you punish criminals. Give up attraction to the sense objects and take up the sword of knowledge sharpened by devotional service. Then you will be able to cut the hard knot of illusory energy and cross to the other side of the ocean of nescience.

Purport:

In Bhagavad-gītā Lord Kṛṣṇa compares the material world to a tree of illusion from which one must cut oneself free:

na rūpam asyeha tathopalabhyate

nānto na cādir na ca sampratiṣṭhā

aśvattham enaṁ 

suvirūḍha-mūlam

asaṅga-śastreṇa dṛḍhena chittvā

tataḥ padaṁ tat parimārgitavyaṁ

yasmin gatā na nivartanti bhūyaḥ

tam eva cādyaṁ puruṣaṁ prapadye

yataḥ pravṛttiḥ prasṛtā purāṇī

“The real form of this tree cannot be perceived in this world. No one can understand where it ends, where it begins, or where its foundation is. But with determination, one must cut down this tree with the weapon of detachment. So doing, one must seek that place from which, having once gone, one never returns, and there surrender to that Supreme Personality of Godhead from whom everything has begun and in whom everything is abiding since time immemorial.” (Bg. 15.3–4)

Text 21

King Rahūgaṇa said: This birth as a human being is the best of all. Even birth among the demigods in the heavenly planets is not as glorious as birth as a human being on this earth. What is the use of the exalted position of a demigod? In the heavenly planets, due to profuse material comforts, there is no possibility of associating with devotees.

Purport:

Human birth is a great opportunity for self-realization. One may take birth in a high planetary system among the demigods, but due to the profusion of material comforts, one cannot gain release from material bondage. Even on this earth those who are very opulent do not generally care to take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. An intelligent person actually interested in getting freed from the material clutches must associate with pure devotees. 

By such association, one can gradually become detached from the material attraction of money and women. Money and women are the basic principles of material attachment. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu therefore advised those who are actually serious about returning back to Godhead to give up money and women in order to be fit to enter the kingdom of God. Money and women can be fully utilized in the service of the Lord, and one who can utilize them in this way can become freed from material bondage. 

Satāṁ prasaṅgān mama vīrya-saṁvido bhavanti hṛt-karṇa-rasāyanāḥ kathāḥ (Bhāg. 3.25.25). 

Only in the association of devotees can one relish the glorification of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Just through a little association with a pure devotee. one can become successful in his journey back to Godhead.

Text 22

It is not at all wonderful that simply by being covered by the dust of your lotus feet, one immediately attains the platform of pure devotional service to Adhokṣaja, which is not available even to great demigods like Brahmā. By associating with you just for a moment, I am now freed from all argument, false prestige and lack of discrimination, which are the roots of entanglement in the material world. Now I am free from all these problems.

Purport:

Association with pure devotees certainly frees one from the material clutches. This is certainly true of King Rahūgaṇa’s association with Jaḍa Bharata. King Rahūgaṇa was immediately freed from the misgivings of material association. The arguments offered by pure devotees to their disciples are so convincing that even a dull-headed disciple is immediately enlightened with spiritual knowledge.

Text 23

I offer my respectful obeisances unto the great personalities, whether they walk on the earth’s surface as children, young boys, avadhūtas or great brāhmaṇas. Even if they are hidden under different guises, I offer my respects to all of them. By their mercy, may there be good fortune in the royal dynasties that are always offending them.

Purport: 

King Rahūgaṇa was very repentant because he had forced Jaḍa Bharata to carry his palanquin. He therefore began offering prayers to all kinds of brāhmaṇas and self-realized persons, even though they might be playing like children or hiding in some guises. The four Kumāras walked everywhere in the guise of five-year-old boys, and similarly there are many brāhmaṇas, knowers of Brahman, who traverse the globe either as young men, children or avadhūtas. Being puffed up due to their position, the royal dynasties generally offend these great personalities. 

Therefore King Rahūgaṇa began to offer his respectful obeisances unto them so that the offensive royal dynasties might not glide down into a hellish condition. If one offends a great personality. the Supreme Personality of Godhead does not excuse one, although the great personalities themselves might not take offense. 

Mahārāja Ambarīṣa was offended by Durvāsā, who even approached Lord Viṣṇu for pardon. Lord Viṣṇu would not grant him pardon; therefore he had to fall down at the lotus feet of Mahārāja Ambarīṣa, even though Mahārāja Ambarīṣa was a kṣatriya-gṛhastha. One should be very careful not to offend the lotus feet of Vaiṣṇavas and brāhmaṇas.

Text 24

Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī continued: My dear King, O son of mother Uttarā, there were some waves of dissatisfaction in the mind of Jaḍa Bharata due to his being insulted by King Rahūgaṇa, who made him carry his palanquin, but Jaḍa Bharata neglected this, and his heart again became calm and quiet like an ocean. 

Although King Rahūgaṇa had insulted him, he was a great paramahaṁsa. Being a Vaiṣṇava, he was naturally very kindhearted, and he therefore told the King about the constitutional position of the soul. He then forgot the insult because King Rahūgaṇa pitifully begged pardon at his lotus feet. After this, he began to wander all over the earth, just as before.

Purport: 

In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (3.25.21), Kapiladeva describes the symptoms of great personalities: titikṣavaḥ kāruṇikāḥ suhṛdaḥ sarva-dehinām. A saintly devotee is certainly very tolerant. He is the friend of all living entities, and he does not create enemies within the world. 

A pure devotee has all the qualities of a sādhu. Jaḍa Bharata is an example of this. Due to the material body, his senses were certainly agitated when he was insulted by King Rahūgaṇa, but later, due to the King’s humble submission, Jaḍa Bharata excused him. 

It is the duty of everyone desiring to return to Godhead to become submissive like King Rahūgaṇa and beg pardon of Vaiṣṇavas one may have offended. Vaiṣṇavas are generally very kindhearted; therefore if one immediately submits himself at the lotus feet of a Vaiṣṇava, one is immediately cleared of offensive reactions. If one does not do so, the reactions will remain, and the results will not be very palatable.

Text 25

After receiving lessons from the great devotee Jaḍa Bharata, King Rahūgaṇa of the state of Sauvīra became completely aware of the constitutional position of the soul. He thus gave up the bodily conception completely. My dear King, whoever takes shelter of the servant of the servant of the Lord is certainly glorified because he can without difficulty give up the bodily conception.

Purport:

As stated in Caitanya-caritāmṛta (Madhya 22.54):

“sādhu-saṅga," “sādhu-saṅga”—sarva-śāstre kaya lava mātra sādhu-saṅge sarva-siddhi haya

It is a fact that if one takes shelter of a pure devotee, one attains all perfection, even if the association is a short one. A sādhu is a pure devotee of the Lord. It has been our practical experience that the first instruction of our spiritual master infused us with Kṛṣṇa consciousness so that now we are at least on the path of Kṛṣṇa consciousness and can understand the philosophy. 

As a result, there are many devotees engaged in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. The whole world is revolving under the bodily conception; therefore there must be devotees all over the world to deliver people from the false bodily conception and fully engage them in Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Text 26

King Parīkṣit then told Śukadeva Gosvāmī: My dear lord, O great devotee sage, you are omniscient. You have very nicely described the position of the conditioned soul, who is compared to a merchant in the forest. From these instructions intelligent men can understand that the senses of a person in the bodily conception are like rogues and thieves in that forest, and one’s wife and children are like jackals and other ferocious animals. 

However, it is not very easy for the unintelligent to understand the purport of this story because it is difficult to extricate the exact meaning from the allegory. I therefore request Your Holiness to give the direct meaning.

Purport:

There are many stories and incidents in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam that are described figuratively. Such allegorical descriptions may not be understood by unintelligent men; therefore it is the duty of the student to approach a bona fide spiritual master for the direct explanation.

Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports of the Fifth Canto, Thirteenth Chapter, of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled, “Further Talks Between King Rahūgaṇa and Jaḍa Bharata.