Saturday, February 27, 2021

Why our small earth globe we live on is NOT Bhu-Mandala explained here.

Our small earth globe is 24,901 miles in circumference and 7,917.5 miles in diameter, so clearly it is NOT the 4 billion miles Bhu-Mandala that is described in the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

This is because Bhu-Mandala is decribed as the entire individual universe we live in, which is almost 4 billion miles in diameter and 12.57 billion miles in circumference. 

This is clearly described in Srimad Bhagvatam.

So it cannot be our small earth globe.

Therefore Bhū-maṇḍala is actually another name for our entire material universe and its 14 planetary systems.

Furthermore our Earth globe we live on is way too small to be Bhū-maṇḍala according to Vedic Cosmologist and ISKCON scientist Sadaputa Dasa ACBSP.

The Bhu-Mandala description described in Srimad Bhagavatam, is NOT our small earth globe, it is our ENTIRE material universe that houses all the 14 Planetary Systems in it.

Our small universe is further surrounded on all sides, by a greater universe called a Brahmanda, as seen in painting below.

This greater Brahmanda universe that our universe is deep within, is made up of 7 layers of material energy -

Earth,
Water,
Fire,
Air,
Sky,
Ether,
Ego
Mahat tattva, 

These 7 layers are a massive 44 Quadrillion 444 Trillion 444 Billion miles in diameter, and this figure is possibly just from the outer edge of our inner universe.

This means the diameter of the outer Brahmanda surrounding our universe, is double the figure above.

Srila Prabhupada explains that our small Earth globe is just a spec within the Bhurloka Planetary Systems.

Srila Prabhupada - "Within this material energy there are innumerable universes, in every universe there are innumerable material planets, and the earth is one of these planets. Thus we can understand what an insignificant part of the entire cosmos is this globe on which we live''. (Light of the Bhāgavata 47)

'A Description of Jambūdvīpa''

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 16 Text 1 to Text 29

By His Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

While describing the character of Mahārāja Priyavrata and his descendants, Śukadeva Gosvāmī also described Meru Mountain and the planetary system known as Bhū-maṇḍala.

Bhū-maṇḍala universe is in the lotus stem, and its seven islands are compared to the whorl of the lotus.

The place known as Jambūdvīpa is in the middle of that whorl. In Jambūdvīpa there is a mountain known as Sumeru, which is made of solid gold. The height of this mountain is 84,000 yojanas, of which 16,000 yojanas are below the earth.

Its width is estimated to be 32,000 yojanas at its summit and 16,000 yojanas at its foot. (One yojana equals approximately eight miles.)

This king of mountains, Sumeru, is the support of the planet earth.

On the southern side of the land known as Ilāvṛta-varṣa are the mountains known as Himavān, Hemakūṭa and Niṣadha, and on the northern side are the mountains Nīla, Śveta and Śṛṅga.

Similarly, on the eastern and western side there are Mālyavān and Gandhamādana, two large mountains. Surrounding Sumeru Mountain are four mountains known as

Mandara,
Merumandara,
Supārśva
Kumuda,

Each 10,000 yojanas long and 10,000 yojanas high.

On these four mountains there are trees 1,100 yojanas high — a mango tree, a rose apple tree, a kadamba tree and a banyan tree. There are also lakes full of milk, honey, sugarcane juice and pure water. These lakes can fulfill all desires.

There are also gardens named Nandana, Citraratha, Vaibhrājaka and Sarvatobhadra.

On the side of Supārśva Mountain is a kadamba tree with streams of honey flowing from its hollows, and on Kumuda Mountain there is a banyan tree named Śatavalśa, from whose roots flow rivers containing milk, yogurt and many other desirable things.

Surrounding Sumeru Mountain like filaments of the whorl of a lotus are twenty mountain ranges such as

Kuraṅga,
Kurara,
Kusumbha,
Vaikaṅka
Trikūṭa.

To the east of Sumeru are the mountains Jaṭhara and Devakūṭa, to the west are Pavana and Pāriyātra, to the south are Kailāsa and Karavīra, and to the north are Triśṛṅga and Makara.

These eight mountains are about 18,000 yojanas long, 2,000 yojanas wide and 2,000 yojanas high. On the summit of Mount Sumeru is Brahmapurī, the residence of Lord Brahmā.

Each of its four sides is 10,000 yojanas long. Surrounding Brahmapurī are the cities of King Indra and seven other demigods. These cities are one fourth the size of Brahmapurī.

SB 5.16.1

King Parīkṣit said to Śukadeva Gosvāmī: O brāhmaṇa, you have already informed me that the radius of Bhū-maṇḍala extends as far as the sun spreads its light and heat and as far as the moon and all the stars can be seen.

Purport:

In this verse it is stated that the planetary system known as Bhū-maṇḍala extends to the limits of the sunshine. According to modern science, the sunshine reaches earth from a distance of 93,000,000 miles.

If we calculate according to this modern information, 93,000,000 miles can be considered the radius of Bhū-maṇḍala. In the Gāyatrī mantra, we chant om bhūr bhuvaḥ svaḥ.

The word bhūr refers to Bhū-maṇḍala. Tat savitur vareṇyam: the sunshine spreads throughout Bhū-maṇḍala. Therefore the sun is worshipable.

The stars, which are known as nakṣatra, are not different suns, as modern astronomers suppose. From Bhagavad-gītā (10.21) we understand that the stars are similar to the moon (nakṣatrāṇām ahaṁ śaśī).

Like the moon, the stars reflect the sunshine. Apart from our modern distinguished estimations of where the planetary systems are located, we can understand that the sky and its various planets were studied long, long before Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam was compiled.

Śukadeva Gosvāmī explained the location of the planets, and this indicates that the information was known long, long before Śukadeva Gosvāmī related it to Mahārāja Parīkṣit. The location of the various planetary systems was not unknown to the sages who flourished in the Vedic age.

SB 5.16.2

My dear Lord, the rolling wheels of Mahārāja Priyavrata’s chariot created seven ditches, in which the seven oceans came into existence. Because of these seven oceans, Bhū-maṇḍala is divided into seven islands. You have given a very general description of their measurement, names and characteristics. Now I wish to know of them in detail. Kindly fulfill my desire.

SB 5.16.3

When the mind is fixed upon the Supreme Personality of Godhead in His external feature made of the material modes of nature — the gross universal form — it is brought to the platform of pure goodness.

In that transcendental position, one can understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vāsudeva, who in His subtler form is self-effulgent and beyond the modes of nature. O my lord, please describe vividly how that form, which covers the entire universe, is perceived.

Purport:

Mahārāja Parīkṣit had already been advised by his spiritual master, Śukadeva Gosvāmī, to think of the universal form of the Lord, and therefore, following the advice of his spiritual master, he continuously thought of that form.

The universal form is certainly material, but because everything is an expansion of the energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, ultimately nothing is material. Therefore Parīkṣit Mahārāja’s mind was saturated with spiritual consciousness. Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī has stated:

prāpañcikatayā buddhyā
hari-sambandhi-vastunaḥ
mumukṣubhiḥ parityāgo
vairāgyaṁ phalgu kathyate

Everything, even that which is material, is connected with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore everything should be engaged in the service of the Lord. Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura translates this verse as follows:

hari-sevāya yāhā haya anukūla
viṣaya baliyā tāhāra tyāge haya bhula

“One should not give up anything connected with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, thinking it material or enjoyable for the material senses.” Even the senses, when purified, are spiritual. When Mahārāja Parīkṣit was thinking of the universal form of the Lord, his mind was certainly situated on the transcendental platform.

Therefore although he might not have had any reason to be concerned with detailed information of the universe, he was thinking of it in relationship with the Supreme Lord, and therefore such geographical knowledge was not material but transcendental.

Elsewhere in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (1.5.20) Nārada Muni has said, idaṁ hi viśvaṁ bhagavān ivetaraḥ: the entire universe is also the Supreme Personality of Godhead, although it appears different from Him.

Therefore although Parīkṣit Mahārāja had no need for geographical knowledge of this universe, that knowledge was also spiritual and transcendental because he was thinking of the entire universe as an expansion of the energy of the Lord.

In our preaching work also, we deal with so much property and money and so many books bought and sold, but because these dealings all pertain to the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, they should never be considered material. That one is absorbed in thoughts of such management does not mean that he is outside of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

If one rigidly observes the regulative principle of chanting sixteen rounds of the mahā-mantra every day, his dealings with the material world for the sake of spreading the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement are not different from the spiritual cultivation of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

SB 5.16.4

The great ṛṣi Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: My dear King, there is no limit to the expansion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead’s material energy. This material world is a transformation of the material qualities [sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa and tamo-guṇa], yet no one could possibly explain it perfectly, even in a lifetime as long as that of Brahmā.

No one in the material world is perfect, and an imperfect person could not describe this material universe accurately, even after continued speculation. O King, I shall nevertheless try to explain to you the principal regions, such as Bhūloka, with their names, forms, measurements and various symptoms.

Purport:

The material world is only one fourth of the Supreme Personality of Godhead’s creation, but it is unlimited and impossible for anyone to know or describe, even with the qualification of a life as long as that of Brahmā, who lives for millions and millions of years.

Modern scientists and astronomers try to explain the cosmic situation and the vastness of space, and some of them believe that all the glittering stars are different suns.

From Bhagavad-gītā, however, we understand that all these stars (nakṣatras) are like the moon, in that they reflect the sunshine. They are not independent luminaries.

Bhūloka is explained to be that portion of outer space through which the heat and light of the sun extend. Therefore it is natural to conclude that this universe extends in space as far as we can see and encompasses the glittering stars.

Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī admitted that to give full details of this expansive material universe would be impossible, but nevertheless he wanted to give the King as much knowledge as he had received through the paramparā system.

We should conclude that if one cannot comprehend the material expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one certainly cannot estimate the expansiveness of the spiritual world. The Brahma-saṁhitā (5.33) confirms this:

advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam
ādyaṁ purāṇa-puruṣaṁ nava-yauvanaṁ ca

The limits of the expansions of Govinda, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, cannot be estimated by anyone, even a person as perfect as Brahmā, not to speak of tiny scientists whose senses and instruments are all imperfect and who cannot give us information of even this one universe.

We should therefore be satisfied with the information obtainable from Vedic sources as spoken by authorities like Śukadeva Gosvāmī.

SB 5.16.5

The planetary system known as Bhū-maṇḍala resembles a lotus flower, and its seven islands resemble the whorl of that flower. The length and breadth of the island known as Jambūdvīpa, which is situated in the middle of the whorl, are one million yojanas [eight million miles]. Jambūdvīpa is round like the leaf of a lotus flower.

SB 5.16.6

In Jambūdvīpa there are nine divisions of land, each with a length of 9,000 yojanas [72,000 miles]. There are eight mountains that mark the boundaries of these divisions and separate them nicely.

Purport:

Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura gives the following quotation from the Vāyu Purāṇa, wherein the locations of the various mountains, beginning with the Himālayas, are described.

dhanurvat saṁsthite jñeye dve varṣe dakṣiṇottare; dīrghāṇi tatra catvāri caturasram ilāvṛtam iti dakṣiṇottare bhāratottara-kuru-varṣe catvāri kiṁpuruṣa-harivarṣa-ramyaka-hiraṇmayāni varṣāṇi nīla-niṣadhayos tiraścinībhūya samudra-praviṣṭayoḥ saṁlagnatvam aṅgīkṛtya bhadrāśva-ketumālayor api dhanur-ākṛtitvam; atas tayor dairghyata eva madhye saṅkucitatvena nava-sahasrāyāmatvam; ilāvṛtasya tu meroḥ sakāśāt catur-dikṣu nava-sahasrāyāmatvaṁ saṁbhavet vastutas tv ilāvṛta-bhadrāśva-ketumālānāṁ catus-triṁśat-sahasrāyāmatvaṁ jñeyam.

SB 5.16.7

Amidst these divisions, or varṣas, is the varṣa named Ilāvṛta, which is situated in the middle of the whorl of the lotus. Within Ilāvṛta-varṣa is Sumeru Mountain, which is made of gold. Sumeru Mountain is like the pericarp of the lotuslike Bhū-maṇḍala planetary system.

The mountain’s height is the same as the width of Jambūdvīpa — or, in other words, 100,000 yojanas [800,000 miles].

Of that, 16,000 yojanas [128,000 miles] are within the earth, and therefore the mountain’s height above the earth is 84,000 yojanas [672,000 miles].

The mountain’s width is 32,000 yojanas [256,000 miles] at its summit and 16,000 yojanas at its base.

SB 5.16.8

Just north of Ilāvṛta-varṣa — and going further northward, one after another — are three mountains named Nīla, Śveta and Śṛṅgavān. These mark the borders of the three varṣas named Ramyaka, Hiraṇmaya and Kuru and separate them from one another.

The width of these mountains is 2,000 yojanas [16,000 miles]. Lengthwise, they extend east and west to the beaches of the ocean of salt water. Going from south to north, the length of each mountain is one tenth that of the previous mountain, but the height of them all is the same.

Purport:

In this regard, Madhvācārya quotes the following verses from the Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa:

yathā bhāgavate tūktaṁ
bhauvanaṁ kośa-lakṣaṇam
tasyāvirodhato yojyam
anya-granthāntare sthitam

maṇḍode puraṇaṁ caiva
vyatyāsaṁ kṣīra-sāgare
rāhu-soma-ravīṇāṁ ca
maṇḍalād dvi-guṇoktitām
vinaiva sarvam unneyaṁ
yojanābhedato ’tra tu

It appears from these verses that aside from the sun and moon, there is an invisible planet called Rāhu. The movements of Rāhu cause both solar and lunar eclipses. We suggest that the modern expeditions attempting to reach the moon are mistakenly going to Rāhu.

SB 5.16.9

Similarly, south of Ilāvṛta-varṣa and extending from east to west are three great mountains named (from north to south) Niṣadha, Hemakūṭa and Himālaya. Each of them is 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles] high. They mark the boundaries of the three varṣas named Hari-varṣa, Kimpuruṣa-varṣa and Bhārata-varṣa [India].

SB 5.16.10

In the same way, west and east of Ilāvṛta-varṣa are two great mountains named Mālyavān and Gandhamādana respectively. These two mountains, which are 2,000 yojanas [16,000 miles] high, extend as far as Nīla Mountain in the north and Niṣadha in the south. They indicate the borders of Ilāvṛta-varṣa and also the varṣas known as Ketumāla and Bhadrāśva.

Purport:

There are so many mountains, even on this planet earth. We do not think that the measurements of all of them have actually been calculated. While passing over the mountainous region from Mexico to Caracas, we actually saw so many mountains that we doubt whether their height, length and breadth have been properly measured.

Therefore, as indicated in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam by Śukadeva Gosvāmī, we should not try to comprehend the greater mountainous areas of the universe merely by our calculations. Śukadeva Gosvāmī has already stated that such calculations would be very difficult even if one had a duration of life like that of Brahmā.

We should simply be satisfied with the statements of authorities like Śukadeva Gosvāmī and appreciate how the entire cosmic manifestation has been made possible by the external energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The measurements given herein, such as 10,000 yojanas or 100,000 yojanas, should be considered correct because they have been given by Śukadeva Gosvāmī.

Our experimental knowledge can neither verify nor disprove the statements of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. We should simply hear these statements from the authorities. If we can appreciate the extensive energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, that will benefit us.

SB 5.16.11

On the four sides of the great mountain known as Sumeru are four mountains — Mandara, Merumandara, Supārśva and Kumuda — which are like its belts. The length and height of these mountains are calculated to be 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles].

SB 5.16.12

Standing like flagstaffs on the summits of these four mountains are a mango tree, a rose apple tree, a kadamba tree and a banyan tree. Those trees are calculated to have a width of 100 yojanas [800 miles] and a height of 1,100 yojanas [8,800 miles]. Their branches also spread to a radius of 1,100 yojanas.

SB 5.16.13-14

O Mahārāja Parīkṣit, best of the Bharata dynasty, between these four mountains are four huge lakes. The water of the first tastes just like milk; the water of the second, like honey; and that of the third, like sugarcane juice. The fourth lake is filled with pure water.

The celestial beings such as the Siddhas, Cāraṇas and Gandharvas, who are also known as demigods, enjoy the facilities of those four lakes. Consequently they have the natural perfections of mystic yoga, such as the power to become smaller than the smallest or greater than the greatest.

There are also four celestial gardens named Nandana, Caitraratha, Vaibhrājaka and Sarvatobhadra.

SB 5.16.15

The best of the demigods, along with their wives, who are like ornaments of heavenly beauty, meet together and enjoy within those gardens, while their glories are sung by lesser demigods known as Gandharvas.

SB 5.16.16

On the lower slopes of Mandara Mountain is a mango tree named Devacūta. It is 1,100 yojanas high. Mangoes as big as mountain peaks and as sweet as nectar fall from the top of this tree for the enjoyment of the denizens of heaven.

Purport:

In the Vāyu Purāṇa there is also a reference to this tree by great learned sages:

aratnīnāṁ śatāny aṣṭāv
eka-ṣaṣṭy-adhikāni ca
phala-pramāṇam ākhyātam
ṛṣibhis tattva-darśibhiḥ

SB 5.16.17

When all those solid fruits fall from such a height, they break, and the sweet, fragrant juice within them flows out and becomes increasingly more fragrant as it mixes with other scents. That juice cascades from the mountain in waterfalls and becomes a river called Aruṇodā, which flows pleasantly through the eastern side of Ilāvṛta.

SB 5.16.18

The pious wives of the Yakṣas act as personal maidservants to assist Bhavānī, the wife of Lord Śiva. Because they drink the water of the river Aruṇodā, their bodies become fragrant, and as the air carries away that fragrance, it perfumes the entire atmosphere for eighty miles around.

SB 5.16.19

Similarly, the fruits of the jambū tree, which are full of pulp and have very small seeds, fall from a great height and break to pieces.

Those fruits are the size of elephants, and the juice gliding from them becomes a river named Jambū-nadī.

This river falls a distance of 10,000 yojanas, from the summit of Merumandara to the southern side of Ilāvṛta, and floods the entire land of Ilāvṛta with juice.

Purport:

We can only imagine how much juice there might be in a fruit that is the size of an elephant but has a very tiny seed. Naturally the juice from the broken jambū fruits forms waterfalls and floods the entire land of Ilāvṛta. That juice produces an immense quantity of gold, as will be explained in the next verses.

SB 5.16.20-21

The mud on both banks of the river Jambū-nadī, being moistened by the flowing juice and then dried by the air and the sunshine, produces huge quantities of gold called Jāmbū-nada.

The denizens of heaven use this gold for various kinds of ornaments. Therefore all the inhabitants of the heavenly planets and their youthful wives are fully decorated with golden helmets, bangles and belts, and thus they enjoy life.

Purport:

By the arrangement of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the rivers on some planets produce gold on their banks. The poor inhabitants of this earth, because of their incomplete knowledge, are captivated by a so-called bhagavān who can produce a small quantity of gold.

However, it is understood that in a higher planetary system in this material world, the mud on the banks of the Jambū-nadī mixes with jambū juice, reacts with the sunshine in the air, and automatically produces huge quantities of gold. Thus the men and women are decorated there by various golden ornaments, and they look very nice.

Unfortunately, on earth there is such a scarcity of gold that the governments of the world try to keep it in reserve and issue paper currency. Because that currency is not backed up by gold, the paper they distribute as money is worthless, but nevertheless the people on earth are very proud of material advancement.

In modern times, girls and ladies have ornaments made of plastic instead of gold, and plastic utensils are used instead of golden ones, yet people are very proud of their material wealth. Therefore the people of this age are described as mandāḥ sumanda-matayo manda-bhāgyā hy upadrutāḥ (Bhāg. 1.1.10).

In other words, they are extremely bad and slow to understand the opulence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. They have been described as sumanda-matayaḥ because their conceptions are so crippled that they accept a bluffer who produces a little gold to be God. Because they have no gold in their possession, they are actually poverty-stricken, and therefore they are considered unfortunate.

Sometimes these unfortunate people want to be promoted to the heavenly planets to achieve fortunate positions, as described in this verse, but pure devotees of the Lord are not at all interested in such opulence. Indeed, devotees sometimes compare the color of gold to that of bright golden stool.

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu has instructed devotees not to be allured by golden ornaments and beautifully decorated women. Na dhanaṁ na janaṁ na sundarīm: a devotee should not be allured by gold, beautiful women or the prestige of having many followers.

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, therefore, confidentially prayed, mama janmani janmanīśvare bhavatād bhaktir ahaitukī tvayi: “My Lord, please bless Me with Your devotional service. I do not want anything else.” A devotee may pray to be delivered from this material world. That is his only aspiration.

ayi nanda-tanuja kiṅkaraṁ
patitaṁ māṁ viṣame bhavāmbudhau
kṛpayā tava pāda-paṅkaja-
sthita-dhūlī-sadṛśaṁ vicintaya

The humble devotee simply prays to the Lord, “Kindly pick me up from the material world, which is full of varieties of material opulence, and keep me under the shelter of Your lotus feet.”

Śrīla Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura prays:

hā hā prabhu nanda-suta, vṛṣabhānu-sutā-yuta,
karuṇā karaha ei-bāra
narottama-dāsa kaya, nā ṭheliha rāṅgā-pāya,
tomā vine ke āche āmāra

“O my Lord, O son of Nanda Mahārāja, now You are standing before me with Your consort, the daughter of Vṛṣabhānu, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. Kindly accept me as the dust of Your lotus feet. Please do not kick me away, for I have no other shelter.”

Similarly, Prabodhānanda Sarasvatī indicates that the position of the demigods, who are decorated with golden helmets and other ornaments, is no better than a phantasmagoria (tri-daśa-pūr ākāśa-puṣpāyate). A devotee is never allured by such opulences. He simply aspires to become the dust of the lotus feet of the Lord.

SB 5.16.22

On the side of Supārśva Mountain stands a big tree called Mahākadamba, which is very celebrated. From the hollows of this tree flow five rivers of honey, each about five vyāmas wide. This flowing honey falls incessantly from the top of Supārśva Mountain and flows all around Ilāvṛta-varṣa, beginning from the western side. Thus the whole land is saturated with the pleasing fragrance.

Purport:

The distance between one hand and another when one spreads both his arms is called a vyāma. This comes to about eight feet. Thus each of the rivers was about forty feet wide, making a total of about two hundred feet.

SB 5.16.23

The air carrying the scent from the mouths of those who drink that honey perfumes the land for a hundred yojanas around.

SB 5.16.24

Similarly, on Kumuda Mountain there is a great banyan tree, which is called Śatavalśa because it has a hundred main branches. From those branches come many roots, from which many rivers are flowing. These rivers flow down from the top of the mountain to the northern side of Ilāvṛta-varṣa for the benefit of those who live there.

Because of these flowing rivers, all the people have ample supplies of milk, yogurt, honey, clarified butter [ghee], molasses, food grains, clothes, bedding, sitting places and ornaments. All the objects they desire are sufficiently supplied for their prosperity, and therefore they are very happy.

Purport:

The prosperity of humanity does not depend on a demoniac civilization that has no culture and no knowledge but has only gigantic skyscrapers and huge automobiles always rushing down the highways.

The products of nature are sufficient. When there is a profuse supply of milk, yogurt, honey, food grains, ghee, molasses, dhotis, saris, bedding, sitting places and ornaments, the residents are actually opulent.

When a profuse supply of water from the river inundates the land, all these things can be produced, and there will not be scarcity. This all depends, however, on the performance of sacrifice as described in the Vedic literature.

annād bhavanti bhūtāni
parjanyād anna-sambhavaḥ
yajñād bhavati parjanyo
yajñaḥ karma-samudbhavaḥ

“All living bodies subsist on food grains, which are produced from rains. Rains are produced by performance of yajña [sacrifice], and yajña is born of prescribed duties.”

These are the prescriptions given in Bhagavad-gītā (3.14). If people follow these principles in full Kṛṣṇa consciousness, human society will be prosperous, and they will be happy both in this life and in the next.

SB 5.16.25

The residents of the material world who enjoy the products of these flowing rivers have no wrinkles on their bodies and no grey hair. They never feel fatigue, and perspiration does not give their bodies a bad odor. They are not afflicted by old age, disease or untimely death, they do not suffer from chilly cold or scorching heat, nor do their bodies lose their luster. They all live very happily, without anxieties, until death.

Purport:

This verse hints at the perfection of human society even within this material world. The miserable conditions of this material world can be corrected by a sufficient supply of milk, yogurt, honey, ghee, molasses, food grains, ornaments, bedding, sitting places and so on.

This is human civilization. Ample food grains can be produced through agricultural enterprises, and profuse supplies of milk, yogurt and ghee can be arranged through cow protection. Abundant honey can be obtained if the forests are protected.

Unfortunately, in modern civilization, men are busy killing the cows that are the source of yogurt, milk and ghee, they are cutting down all the trees that supply honey, and they are opening factories to manufacture nuts, bolts, automobiles and wine instead of engaging in agriculture. How can the people be happy? They must suffer from all the misery of materialism.

Their bodies become wrinkled and gradually deteriorate until they become almost like dwarves, and a bad odor emanates from their bodies because of unclean perspiration resulting from eating all kinds of nasty things. This is not human civilization.

If people actually want happiness in this life and want to prepare for the best in the next life, they must adopt a Vedic civilization. In a Vedic civilization, there is a full supply of all the necessities mentioned above.

SB 5. 16. 26.

There are other mountains beautifully arranged around the foot of Mount Meru like the filaments around the whorl of a lotus flower. Their names are Kuraṅga, Kurara, Kusumbha, Vaikaṅka, Trikūṭa, Śiśira, Pataṅga, Rucaka, Niṣadha, Sinīvāsa, Kapila, Śaṅkha, Vaidūrya, Jārudhi, Haṁsa, Ṛṣabha, Nāga, Kālañjara and Nārada.

SB 5.16.27

On the eastern side of Sumeru Mountain are two mountains named Jaṭhara and Devakūṭa, which extend to the north and south for 18,000 yojanas [144,000 miles]. Similarly, on the western side of Sumeru are two mountains named Pavana and Pāriyātra, which also extend north and south for the same distance.

On the southern side of Sumeru are two mountains named Kailāsa and Karavīra, which extend east and west for 18,000 yojanas, and on the northern side of Sumeru, extending for the same distance east and west, are two mountains named Triśṛṅga and Makara.

The width and height of all these mountains is 2,000 yojanas [16,000 miles]. Sumeru, a mountain of solid gold shining as brilliantly as fire, is surrounded by these eight mountains.

SB 5.16.28

In the middle of the summit of Meru is the township of Lord Brahmā. Each of its four sides is calculated to extend for ten million yojanas [eighty million miles]. It is made entirely of gold, and therefore learned scholars and sages call it Śātakaumbhī.

SB 5.16.29

Surrounding Brahmapurī in all directions are the residences of the eight principal governors of the planetary systems, beginning with King Indra. These abodes are similar to Brahmapurī but are one fourth the size.

Purport:

Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura confirms that the townships of Lord Brahmā and the eight subordinate governors of the planetary systems, beginning with Indra, are mentioned in other Purāṇas.

merau nava-pūrāṇi syur
manovaty amarāvatī
tejovatī saṁyamanī
tathā kṛṣṇāṅganā parā

śraddhāvatī gandhavatī
tathā cānyā mahodayā
yaśovatī ca brahmendra
bahyādīnāṁ yathā-kramam

Brahmā’s township is known as Manovatī, and those of his assistants such as Indra and Agni are known as Amarāvatī, Tejovatī, Saṁyamanī, Kṛṣṇāṅganā, Śraddhāvatī, Gandhavatī, Mahodayā and Yaśovatī. Brahmapurī is situated in the middle, and the other eight purīs surround it in all directions.

Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports of the Fifth Canto, Sixteenth Chapter, of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled “A Description of Jambūdvīpa.”**







Wednesday, February 24, 2021

Once while Krsna was ruling Dvaraka, Lord Brahma from our material universe came to see Him.

Our small material universe, created by Garbhodakashayi Visnu, is maintained by our Lord Brahma who builds the planetary systems inside it.

Furthermore, our material universe is deep inside a larger surrounding universe called a Brahmanda that comes from the Body of Maha-Visnu.

There are billions of these massive Brahmanda universes each with a secondary smaller material universe inside of them.

The doorman of Dvaraka immediately informed Krsna of Brahma’s arrival.

When Krsna was informed, He immediately asked the doorman- 

Krsna - "Which Brahma is it? What is his name, what universe is he from?"

The doorman returned and questioned Lord Brahma of which Brahma he was.

The doorman asked - "Which Brahma are you, which universe are you from?"

Lord Brahma was very surprised as he believed he was the only Brahma.

Lord Brahma said - "Please inform Krsna that I am the four-headed Brahma who is the father of the four Kumaras."

The doorman then went and told Krsna what Brahma had said and Krsna then gave Brahma permission to enter. 

The doorman escorted Lord Brahma in, and as soon as Brahma saw Krsna he offered obeisances at the Supreme Lord's Lotus feet.

After being worshiped by Brahma, Krsna also honored Lord Brahma with suitable words. 

Krsna asked - "Why have you come to visit me?"

Brahma replied - "I will later tell You why I have come but first I have some doubts in my mind which I wish You too kindly answer why did you inquire which Brahma had come to see You? What is the purpose of such an inquiry? Is there any other Brahma besides me within the universe?"

Upon hearing this, Krsna smiled and closed His eyes in meditation.

Then immediately an unlimited number of Brahmas appeared instantly to the great suprise of our Brahma.

Furthermore all these Brahmas had a different numbers of heads than our Brahma's four heads. 

Some had ten heads, some twenty, some a hundred, some a thousand, some had ten thousand, some had a hundred thousand, some had ten million and had hundreds of millions. 

No one can count the number of faces they had and Lord Brahma was totally amazed at what he was seeing.

To Brahma's surprise, there also arrived many Lord Sivas with various heads numbering one hundred thousand and also some with ten million!

Many Indras also arrived, and they had hundreds of thousands of eyes all over their bodies.

When our four-headed Brahma from our single material universe situated deep inside our surrounding Brahmanda, saw all these opulences of Krsna, he became very bewildered and considered himself to be very small and insignificant in a great material universal creation that was much bigger than he could ever imagined existed!

As these Brahmas that arrived to see Krsna, offered their respects at Krsna’s lotus feet, and when they did this, their helmets touched His lotus feet.

No one can estimate the inconceivable potency of Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. 

All the Brahmas who were there,  were resting in the one body of Krsna.

When all their helmets struck together at Krsna’s ’s lotus feet, there was a tumultuous sound. 

It appeared that the helmets themselves were offering prayers unto Krsna’s lotus feet.

With folded hands, all the Brahmas and Sivas began to offer prayers unto Krsna, saying, "O Lord, You have shown me a great favour. I have been able to see Your lotus feet."

All the Brahmas then said - "It is my great fortune, Lord Krsna, that You have called me, thinking of me as Your servant. Now let me know what Your order is so that I may carry it on all my heads."

Krsna replied - "Since I wanted to see all of you together, I have called all of you here, all of you should be happy. Is there any fear from the demons?"

They replied - "By Your mercy, we are victorious everywhere, whatever burden was upon us You have taken away by descending on my planet in my universe."

All the Brahmas then believed that Krsna was always staying in their jurisdiction.

None of the Brahmas could see the other Brahmas except for our Brahma who Krsna allowed to be seen so he could understand he is not the only Lord Brahma.

Thus the opulence of Krsna's abode Dvaraka was perceived by each and every one of the Lord Brahmas. 

As already explained, although they were all assembled together, none of the Lord Brahma could see any other Brahma.

Krsna then bade farewell to all the Brahmas, and after offering their obeisances, they all returned to their respective material universes that exists deep inside their respected larger Brahmanda universes.

As said above, after observing all these opulences, our four-headed Brahma from our universe was astonished. He again came before the lotus feet of Krsna and offered Him obeisances.

Brahma said - "Whatever I formerly decided about my knowledge, I have just now had personally verified -

jananta eva janantu

kim bahuktya na me prabho

manaso vapuso vaco

vaibhavam tava gocarah

"There are people who say, "I know everything about Krsna." Let them think in that way. As far as I am concerned, I do not wish to speak very much about this matter. O my Lord, let me say this much. As far as your opulence’s are concerned, they are all beyond the reach of my mind, body and words." (Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 10 Chapter 14 text 38)

Krsna says - "Your particular universe extends four billion miles in diameter; therefore it is the smallest of all the material universes. Consequently you have only four heads."

Some of the secondary universes (inside the Brahmanda) are 4 billion miles in diameter, some are 8 billion, some 80 billion miles etc etc. Thus they are almost unlimited in area.

And the size of the outer Brahmanda universes are different too, some are billion of times bigger than our Brahmanda.

And as already explained, the size of each secondary material universe inside their larger Brahmanda, is determined by the number of heads each Brahma has. 

Maha-Visnu maintains innumerable material universes (Brahmandas) originating from His bodily pores and breathing.

Krsna explains - "No one can measure the length and breadth of one fourth of My energy. And who can measure the three fourths that is eternally manifest in the spiritual world?"

Beyond the River Viraja is a spiritual nature, which is indestructible, eternal, inexhaustible and unlimited. 

The Supreme Abode consists of three fourths of the Lord’s opulences and is known as paravyoma, the Spiritual Sky."(Adapted from Sri Caitanya Caritamrta Madhyalila chapter 21)**







Srila Prabhupāda – ''Unless there are two-persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

All the jiva-souls (individual marginal living entities) are independent spiritual PERSONS with their own unique personality that is separate from Krsna's Personality.

At the same time, the jiva-souls are simultaneously dependent on Krsna's energies because Kṛṣṇa is Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes EVERYTHING comes from Him. From this we understand the individual jiva-souls have their own freedom (free will) eternally. 

This means the individual jiva-souls have the right to make their own choices that even includes accepting or rejecting Krsna. In other words, Krsna does NOT force us to love Him and only do only what He wants to do without personal input.

This is because love or service in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana is NOT a "one-sided" domination and dictatorship. The jiva-souls can ALWAYS voluntarily offer their own independent contributions too, that Krsna will NEVER interfere with.

If Krsna forced His will on the individual jiva-souls, then that is NOT love, that is slavery and exploitation. Love and selfless service therefore are based on "free will" which includes the right to always make independent choices that may agree, or even disagree with Krsna. 

Genuine loving emotions and devotional service can only exist on a "two-way street" in a relationship between two. Our relationship with Krsna therefore, is based on loving exchanges and reciprocation in a two-way exchange. And that loving exchange can only exist when it is based on a "two-way" expression of mutual respect and NOT dominated by one individual in a one-side affair, NOT even by Krsna.

However, Krsna never does that.

The living entities (jiva-souls) are NOT Krsna's mindless programmed slaves of yes men or women who does all the thinking for them.

No, Krsna is not impersonal like that at all.

The fact is, the jiva-souls in their full potential in Goloka-Vrindavana or Vaikuntha, ALWAYS have their choices too of how to serve Krsna, that Krsna does NOT interfere with.

If He did, then loving exchanges that increase and expand loving relations, could NEVER exist. The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal individuals with their own sense of self and unique personality that is independent from Krsna's Personality.

If Krsna forced the jiva-souls in anyway to just obey and not think for themselves, then that is not love, that is impersonalism. 

The fact is, Krsna does not want unproductive relationships like that basead on forced surrender, fear, abuse and bullying. Our relationship is unique with Krsna and is very personal, each jiva-soul has a different unique special exchange with Krsna.

Therefore REAL love or service can only exist when TWO have voluntary exchanges based on reciprocation and mutual respect. This give a whole new positive meaning for devotees 

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Krsna NEVER forces the jiva-souls to surrender to Him as said above, if He did, then that is NOT love, it is disrespecting and denying the jiva-souls their right to contribute their own devotional mood that will only enrich and expand one's friendship with Krsna.

The impersonal version of Krsna Consciousness preached by some sangas (religious groups), where one is FORCED to obey without ever thinking for themselves by questioning the teachings of even their Guru for a deeper and proper understanding, MUST be seen as a bogus mindless dictatorship and MUST be rejected.

Srila Prabhupada  - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver." (Washington D.C. July 1976)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two-persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is a possibility of misusing our free-will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free-will means that you can act wrongly. That is free-will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free-will. Where is free-will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free-will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free-will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free-will. Unless there is misuse of free-will, there is no question of free-will." (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada and disciples about Rene Descartes)

Ultimately, each individual jiva-soul is a unique PERSON with their own independent personality who can choose for themselves in their  own way how to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, or ignore Him if they want.

As Prabhupada explains, Krsna NEVER forces the jiva-souls to surrender to Him, never forces them to love Him, that MUST be voluntary otherwise love can NEVER exist without the voluntary inputs by the jiva-souls that allow reciprocal loving exchanges.

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila ĺPrabhupada - "The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that - "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

When the conditioned jiva-soul is trained up by a bonafide Spiritual Master then automatically he eventually gets his freedom by following his instructions.

Srila Prabhupada - In the material world if one is not intelligent enough for making for making decisions, then all decisions shall be sanctioned by the spiritual master. In the material creation neophyte means no independent decisions, no free will, that means surrender. But when he is trained up then automatically he gets his freedom. Just like a small child can only eat such things which are sanctioned by his parents, not by his own discretion. Free will is that when the controller says do this, you can use your free will to do it or not to do it, you have got the power to not do:

iti te jnanam akhyatam guhyad guhyataram maya

vimrsyaited asesena yathecchasi tatha kuru

[Bg. 18.63]

"Thus I have explained to you the most confidential of all knowledge. Deliberate on this fully, and then do what you wish to do." [Bg. 18.65]

Krsna asks, "Have you decided to fight?" "Yes, I have decided to follow Your order." This is free will. You will find mentioned in many Vedic scriptures that maha-mantra is especially recommended for understanding God in this age of Kali Yuga, such as Agni Purana, Kali-Santaram Upanisad, Brhan Naradiya Puranam, and many others. 

Haridasa Thakura chanted 3 lakhs of names each day, that means 16 names in the mantra, 108 x16 or 1,728 names in each round of mala, dividing 300,000 by 1,728 comes to roundabout 175 rounds on beads daily. And for us it is even difficult to chant 16 rounds! That is why Haridasa Thakura is "namacarya." We find in Caitanya Caritamrta information that both Lord Caitanya and Haridasa Thakura were constantly absorbed in chanting the Hare Krsna mantra: 

Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna Hare Hare/ Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare." (Letter to Yajnesvara - Bombay 2 Jan, 1972)***















Tuesday, February 23, 2021

What is really going on in the temporary decaying material creation? And who owns and provides all material bodily vessels to the visiting jiva souls, who have chosen to enter the material Worlds (Brahmandas) by taking a material bodily vessel?

Maha Vishnu has a "Costume shop" of  material bodies for hire, all manifesting from His material dreams.

The fact is, to acquire a material bodily biological container, so the jiva soul can enter a Brahmanda material universe's inner secondary universe within it, the jiva soul must hire a bodily vessel from the owner of all "material bodily costumes" in the material creation, Maha Vishnu. 

It is from Maha Vishnu's "Costume shop" that all material bodily vessels originate, and are available for hire to a visiting jiva soul to the material creation so they can aquire a material body suitable for their desired existence in a material World (Brahmanda). 

Past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world in the eyes of Maha Vishnu.

And all material bodily vessels we have are obtained from Him like one gets a costume from a costume shop.

The facilities of bodily costumes and their pathway from birth to death is provided by Maha-Vishnu. We are simply the passenger.

Material bodies or vessels we are contained in while active in the material creation, all come from Maha Vishnu's dreaming of the material universes, He provides all material bodily vessels.

Srila Prabhupada – “This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Vishnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes–

“This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Vishnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation”. (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 29 text 83)

Srila Prabhupada - “Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature.” (Srimad Bhagavatam. Canto 4 Chapter 29 text 2b)

Srila Prabhupada - “Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krishna consciousness, we break the dream.” (Tokyo Japan 1972, Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 9 text 1)

Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams" (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 29 text 2b)

Is space-time a fabric in each material world (Brahmanda), on a permanent roadway divided into past, present and future that all exists simultaneously, like the beginning, middle and end of a roadway always there even after one passes over it?

In other words all 'time of past, present and future' exists just like each part of the roadway exists after passing over it. 

This means that within the fabric of space-time, the material body we are in IS like the roadway that starts from birth, childhood, youth, middle age, old age and death.

The fact is, the jiva soul is simply a passenger ''on the roadway'' and "a passenger also in the material body" because the soul or jiva is NOT made of matter that the roadway and bodily vessel the jiva soul is in/on IS made of.

Past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world to Maha Vishnu because He is God and knows and sees all.

Maha Vishnu dreams the entire material creation which means every possible outcome that the individual jiva souls can think up or imagine already exists in His material dreams.

As a result of all that is possible to exist, ALWAYS exists with every possible outcome, there are billions of Brahmanda universal shells, each with a smaller secondary universe deep within each Brahmanda where Maha Vishnu's expands as Garbhodakashayi Vishnu.

And from His navel Lord Brahma appears who then builds the different Planetary Systems.

This happens in all of the billions of Brahmandas that originate from the pores and breathing of Maha Vishnu.

There is only one Maha Vishnu in the material creation but there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Vishnus and Brahmas.

As already explained, from above, the movement of material time (past, present, and future) everything exists simultaneously in the material world to Maha Vishnu who naturally knows all things, past, present and future.

That should not be surprising, after all, He is Krishna's expansion (Vishnu-tattva that have 93.75% of Krishna's qualities which is 60 of Krishna's 64 attributes) that creates all the temporary material universes, also called worlds which are Brahmandas.

The word "World" does not only refer to our small earth global sphere we live on. 

Our material universe, with its 14 planetary systems, is often collectively called a "World" too, and so is the massive surrounding Brahmanda universe our universe is incased in.

So, the question is, can the individual jiva souls (jiva-tattva souls that have 78.125% of Krishna's qualities or 50 of Krishna's 64 attributes) also realize that past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material Worlds?

Or does Maha Vishnu and other Vishnu tattva expansion have the only capacity to see this?

The answer is no, other jiva tattva souls can also see this if Vishnu allows it, Arjuna was shown past, present and future by Krishna as told in the Mahabharata chapter Bhagavad Gita.

So yes, Maha Vishnu sees all His dreams of the vast material universes (Brahmands) in full, meaning from beginning, the middle and end as a temporary reality and NOT an illusion, His dreams are real but temporary.

Rare jiva souls who get above the flow of time can also see the whole road, beginning, middle and end, however, this is very rare.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7 "The Universal Form"

"Whatever you wish to see can be seen all at once in this body. This universal form can show you all that you now desire, as well as whatever you may desire in the future. Everything is here completely".

PURPORT

”No one can see the entire universe sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe.

Krsna gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Krsna, Arjuna is able to see everything” (Bhagavad Gita Chapter 11 Text 7)

Akasha is a Sanskrit word meaning “sky”, “space”, “luminous” and “ether”

The Akashic record is like an immense photographic film of past, present and future that one can tap into anywhere on the table of ”material space-time”

Even Albert Einstein in his research concluded in his later years, that the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously.

Could it be possible with Vedic understanding, to prove this fact that past, present and future in the material creation, is all happening simultaneously?

From the higher dimensional viewpoint, our material biological bodily vessel is a ‘POST’ for the jiva soul to travel in and experience the material universe through that material bodily vessel.

Just like one travels through the twists and turns of an already built road or pathway, that "road" is actually the material bodily POST the jiva soul is in.

The anti-material jiva soul is the life force, while the material vessel it travels in, is material energy that belongs to Maha Vishnu.

Our material bodily vessel ‘IS’ that pathway or roadway that is traversed by the jiva-souls. 

This also means the "material body pathway", IS a "permanent post" in the material creation like a pathway is always there for others to travel on as a roadway.

The roadway and the material body are the same in this anology.

This means the material body like the roadway, is also a permanent fixture of Maha Vishnu's material creation, and is always repeating its existence of birth, childhood, youth, middle age, old age, then death with a different batch of jiva souls with each new cycle of "Brahmanda universe" creations.

This is also because the roadway or material body that the jiva soul travels in/on, is always reoccurring again and again and again with the movement of past, present and future in the endless cycles of material manifestions, all projected from the material dreams of Maha Vishnu.

Actually EVERYTHING is already there in the dreams of Maha Vishnu already, every possible senerio already exists in His dreams and are continuously materialising in His material creation.

Just like the cycles of yugas are eternally manifesting again and again. 

But with a different batch of jiva souls playing those roles with those same material bodily POSTS provided by Maha Vishnu.

This is also another way of seeing the truth that we (the individual jiva soul) is NOT the material bodily vessel or the POST we temporarily occupy and possess while in the material creation.

Of course understanding this is not easy to comprehend.

Others see this knowledge from a mundane viewpoint because they cannot see or understand the bigger picture of how material energy works.

Therefore they cannot realize that they are NOT the material bodily vessel they are in, that over eternity many other jiva souls have also experienced that same material bodily journey they also purchased from "Maha Vishnu's Costume shop of dreams".

“Time has no independent existence apart from the order of events by which we measure it.” —Albert Einstein.

Srila Prabhupada – “No one can see the entire universe sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe. However, Krsna gives him (Arjuna) the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Krsna, Arjuna is able to see everything”. (Bhagavad Gita Chapter 11 text 7)

We know that every material bodily vessel in the material creation is created by Maha Vishnu as He is dreaming the entire material existence as Srimad Bhagavatam explains.

Such material bodily vessels are the containers possessed by an individual jiva-soul.

These material bodies are simultaneously created (that match Maha Vishnu's dreams) by the desires or dreams of the jiva-soul after leaving the anti-material Sky (Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan)

Such material bodily vessels the jiva soul uses, are only found in the material creation provided by Maha Vishnu.

The material bodily vessels are used by the fallen jiva soul to get around in while in the material creation.

Therefore, all these material bodies are ornaments that are part and parcel of Maha-Vishnu's material creation.

This means all material vessels we dwell in are always a permanent fixture within the material creations cycles of creation, and will again manifest with a different batch of jiva souls in them in a future material creation of Maha Vishnu.

This means those material bodily vessels continuously exist, just like each step along roadway still exists after one travels through it.

This also means past, present and future, like a roadway, is also always existing for others to travel on as well.

In other words, with different batch of jiva-souls passing through, over and in those same bodily pathways eternally.

How the material creation works is hard to explain and understand however, the concept of eternity also proves there is eternal recurrence because all combinations of material elements will be exhausted to the point material energy will always repeat itself.

Of course this takes quadrillion of years to happen, but it WILL happen because there is no beginning or end to the material creation that is 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky.

The other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky is anti-material meaning there is no decay, birth or death, everything there is permanent and the only time is the "eternal presence" with no concept of past or future.

The material creation may appear to be re-created and annihilated (due to the journey through past, present and future) however, this is not happening by the passing of time but is rather happening WITHIN the journey of time.

Just like a roadway is always there and one just passes over it, from its beginning to its end, yet the roadway still exists even after passing over it.

The material bodily vessel the jivs soul is in, IS the roadway.

This means the journey is again repeated with another batch of jiva souls.

From the bigger picture of seeing past, present and future all together, one sees the temporary material energy for what it really is.

So Einstein's research was on the right path regarding the movement of time.

Therefore, it is not surprising to understand that many, many living entities or jiva-souls have experienced the exact same bodily vessel one is presently confined too now, yet foolishly also thinking it is them.

But it is not true, we are NOT the material body we are in.

The first step in beginning one's spiritual life is understanding we are NOT the gross material body or its underlining subtle material bodily vessel.

The fact is, any jiva soul is able to experience the some material pathway or material bodily experience we have right now because each material bodily vessel is a "permanent post" and fixture of the material creation, and a ”costume” the jiva soul wears that one can rents from the costume shop owner, Maha Vishnu.

Such costumes (material bodies) are always available for "rent" at the beginning of each new material creation, when Maha Vishnu again breaths out all the billions of Brahmanda universes that each have a smaller inner universe inside them, like our small Bhu-Mandala universe thst is deep inside our Brahmanda.

Lets make it clear, the "Costume shop" is Maha Vishnu’s ”dreams” and the jiva soul can rent one of "those dreams" (bodily material vessels) from Maha Vishnu.

The jiva soul can rent one of the material dream realities Maha Vishnu creates by His dreaming.

These dreams Maha Vishnu has are also eternally available for rent to all other jiva souls too if they desire or deserve a certain material bodily vessel.

Maha Vishnu's dreams are all inclusive, this means EVERYTHING is possible and every material body desired is possible.

Every material combination already exists for the jiva soul to experience.

Everything in the material creation is owned and "dreamed up" by Maha Vishnu, the jiva soul gets all of these material bodily vessels from ONLY Maha Vishnu.

No jiva soul originates from Maha Vishnu, only the material vessels they occupy originate from Maha Vishnu.

All jiva souls originate from Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana and enter the material creation and Maha Vishnu's dreams by choice and free will.

As previously explained, all material bodily vessels belong to Maha-Vishnu, and we are experiencing His dreaming and simultaneously our material desires through those material bodily vessels He creates through His dreaming.

This is what is really happening in the material creation while foolishly "thinking", we are the material gross (biological) and material subtle body (existing in sub-space not yet discovered by material science in 2021) we presently possess.

Engaging in serving Krishna's pure devotees (through Bhakti and Sankirtan), one can ONLY have the realizations of how this works.

Selfless devotional service enables one to exit the "subtle and gross" material bodily dreams of Maha Vishnu's material creation, and most importantly, again regain the memory of one's genuine perpetual anti-material REAL perpetual Svarupa body" which is the jiva souls full potential in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan serving Krishna or Vishnu.

Keep in mind, when absolute knowledge of selfless loving reciprocal Bhakti is realized and acted upon, all the material gross bodily and subtle vessels within the material creation, are not only seen as counterfeit bodies or vessels the jiva soul is provided with by Maha-Vishnu, but are also mundane ‘posts’ that others jiva souls can also experience if they choose to enter the material creation.

As said above, such material vessels are borrowed costumes or-outfits provided by Maha Vishnu.

Such material vessels have been worn again and again within Maha-Vishnu’s material universal stage drama of the material existence (1/4 of the Spiritual Sky) experienced by an unlimited flow of jiva souls before us and after us possessing them.

Therefore, an unlimited number jivas over a period of many, many material creations of Maha-Vishnu, have lived in the same material bodily vessels that are constantly created/manifest or appear, over and over again in the cycle of material creations Maha Vishnu creates with his breathing as He sleeps and dreams the material creation.

This process of universal cycles through past, present and future are eternal.

The jiva soul wears a material bodily vessel that is provided by Maha-Vishnu so they can act out their material desires that are simultaneously part of Maha Vishnu's script (dreams) of the material creation.

The Director of all material affairs is Maha-Vishnu whose individual dreams are chosen by a visting jiva soul that are insink with their own material desires or dreams of enjoying separate from Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

The jiva soul can "choose" to leave the anti-material Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan if they want because they eternally have free will.

Free will and the ability to choose for themselves allowed the jiva soul to fall from Vaikuntha or Goloka to the material creation in the first place, due to choice.

Krishna NEVER forces a jiva soul to surrender to Him or stay  with Him, that choice is ALWAYS the jiva souls in Goloka Vrindavana or on the Vaikuntha Planets.

There is no material cause for the the jiva souls fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan, it is simply a choice.

Originally all jiva souls come from either Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan, and a small minority  do fall down to the material creation where they acquire a material bodily vessel off Maha Vishnu.

There are two sources to enter the material creation.

1 - From Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan.

2 - From the dormant inactive impersonal Brahmajyoti or impersonal Brahman.

Those jiva souls who enter the material creation from the "inactive" Brahmajyoti or Brahman had long, long, long ago originally fell from either Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan.

After spending many births in the material creation, they become frustrated by its temporary nature from seeing that they spend an entire life building their life's fortune and dreams, only to have it all taken away at the time of death of their material body.

So instinctly they plan to end their mundane existence by attempting to merge themselves into the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

To do this they become a yogi or jnani (philosopher) but unknown to them, even if they succeed in merging their individuality into the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti and "hover" their as an individual inactive "spark" for trillions of years, it is only temporary, again they will enter the material creation whether they like it or not.

Why?

Because the nature of the soul is "activity" and NEVER to be inactive.

All material bodily vessels always eternally exist in Maha Vishnu's dream of the material creation.

This means all material vessels ARE repeated again in the next manifestion of the material creation.

In other words such material costumes (bodily vessels) worn by each visiting jiva soul, are always exist in blue print so they can again become a reality in the next material creation, every time the material universes are re-created by Maha-Vishnu after their annihilation.

Looking from above "outside the realm of past, present and future", one can observes the entire winding roadway or pathway of each material bodily vessel and see at every stage the bodily vessel exists each step on the road through the journey of time and space.

It must be clearly understood that the perpetual ever youthful and fresh "eternal presence" of Goloka and Vaikuntha, exists in the 3/4 of the "anti-material" part of the Spiritual Sky that was never created or will ever cease it be. Only the material Worlds (Brahmanda universes) were created and will eventually decay cease to be.

This material creation (mahat-tattva) is known as a dark temporary cloud always in a state of decline and decay in 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky governed by past, present and future.

Therefore, within the mundane material creation, which is temporary, impermanent and always in a state of decay facet of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti, takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky. It is a place where those rebellious "jiva souls" go to once they have decided to leave Vaikuntha.

However, only less than 10% of those in the Spiritual Worlds make that dreaded decision to leave, while over 90% NEVER choose to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana. 

For those minority jiva souls who have chosen to leave Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, go on and experience the mundane journey through the past, present and future of the matetial creation confined to a temporary material bodily vessel.

These material bodies are provide by Maha Vishnu who creates all the material bodily containers that the visiting jiva souls aquire so they can enter His material Worlds (the billions of Brahmanda universes).

On the other hand, the ‘eternal presence’ of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan takes up 3/4 of the Spiritual Sky as already explained, where there is no decay, decline or death, only eternal youth exists there in the service of Vishnu or Krishna.

So in the material creation this means the jiva soul is trapped in an aging decaying outer material bodily shell that is perishable and in a constant state of decay, decline and maintenance through the movement or journey of material time.

This temporary effect of the material body is natural to the material creation’s subtle and biological (gross) material bodies and their surroundings.

Like frames in a movie canister where each frame always exists together and at the same time as a part of the over all film canister or cylinder, similarly, the material biological costumes (bodies) in the the material creation always exist from its birth, to youth, middle age and finally death, from the bigger picture.

Each step of the vessel the jiva soul is in, or material body, is like the frame in the film canister, and that canister is compared to the material creation.

Just like a film is made up of frame by frame pictures, the bodily material costume and their surrounding are both decorations and ornaments of the material creation.

The movement of all material bodily vessels are like this on a blue-print, also divided into frame by frame realities that are ‘moving’ within the perpetual blue-print of past, present and future of the material creation that the jiva soul simply passes through like passing along a roadway or pathway.

The facilities of bodily costumes and their entire pathway from birth, youth, middle age and death, are provided by Maha-Vishnu, who always can see the entire movement of each material vessel's "past, present and future", just like from above inside an aircraft, one can see the full length of a roadway, its "beginning, middle and end" all at once.

The jiva souls are simply passengers in Maha Vishnu's material bodily creations (costumes) playing out their desires in a material body provided by Maha Vishnu via His dreams, that simultaneously match the desires of the jiva soul.

The jiva soul's material desires cannot be fulfilled without the provisions given by Maha-Vishnu.

Even when Arjuna was with Krishna, he was afraid because he  COULD see all past, present and future all at once – seeing the future activity of his family and himself indicates the future already exists for all of us to pass through, just like one traverse a road that has already been built.

God (Maha Vishnu) knows EVERYTHING, He knows the path of every material bodies journey from beginning, middle and end, after all Maha Vishnu created this material universe and all material bodily vessels and knows all things in His creation.

Freedom and experiencing personalism in a reciprocal two way loving exchange of feelings, is experienced in its full potential when one chooses to eternally voluntarily serve Krishna or Vishnu.

On the other hand, the material creation is impersonal, selfish and artificial because the material body the jiva soul is in, is an outer material garment, costume or shell and NOT who the jiva soul really is as their spiritual bodily svarupa perpetual form.

To be free from those material bodies the jiva soul possess and occupies in the material creation, that are all provided by Maha Vishnu, the jiva soul must re-establish their original relationship with Vishnu in Vaikuntha, or Krishna in Goloka Vrindavana.

It is there the jiva soul IS a ‘spiritual’ bodily form and do NOT have an external material bodily shell or vessel.

All these material costumes, bodily containers or vessels the jiva soul possess, are also available to other jivas too, that are all hired from Maha Vishnu’s material dreams that make up this entire material creation.

The ultimate realization is the jiva soul is an individual eternal living entity with an eternal spiritual bodily form that is NOT material, meaning the jiva souls are NOT any material body they possess or identity with.

That realization is only possible when the jiva soul understands that Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana, which are beyond the mundane material universe, is their REAL original Spiritual eternal home.

When one is free from the material universe’s temporary bodily containers, they realize their true identity and individuality as Krishna’s eternal servant as one's original eternal svarupa or spiritual form, this is the highest realization in the universe.

The material energy that the ‘individual’ soul is covered by, is ‘all-one.’ it is the jiva souls that occupy those bodily containers that are the "individual souls" and NOT the material energy that is the covering or the material bodily vessel the individual jiva soul is in.

When that material covering or bodily vessel dissolves, it merges back into the mahat tattva or material elements as ”ONE” energy called the temporary material energy.

"Material energy alone is lifeless", always changing and is "one", where as spiritual energy is always alive, always fully pervasive within the spiritual sky as "individual" jiva tattvas and Vishnu tattvas.

The entire material creation that includes all material bodily covering, vessels or containers the ‘individual’ jiva souls occupy in the material Worlds, is "ALL ONE" energy called the material energy.

Whereas the Spiritual energy is made up of "individual living entities" know as the "jiva-tattva souls" who all emanate from Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

Actually, it is a fact not understood by everyone, that ”EVERYTHING” in the material creation already exists within Maha Vishnu's dreams. 

The jiva soul therefore, is simply travelling in a bodily vessel aquired  from Maha Vishnu.

Just like one travels in a car on roadway that is always there, and traversed by many different people who also enter that car on that roadway.

The jiva soul therefore simply get a material bodily vessel with its pathway, according to the jiva souls mistaken desires, and then get further material bodies according to their desires and karma, accumulated while in a human body. 

However, what ever material body the jiva soul gets, already exists within Maha-Vishnu’s dreams.

The material body the jiva soul is first given after leaving the Spiritual Worlds, is said to be Lord Brahma, but this may not always be the case. 

The ”choice” of a material body is up to the jiva soul however, what material body the jiva soul takes when entering the material creation, is already known by Maha Vishnu because such a material body, be it a Brahma body, or what ever, are all part and parcel of Maha Vishnu's dreams. 

From Maha Vishnu’s point of view, EVERYTHING in His material universes and past, present and future, already exists.

To be free from this material world, we must reestablish our original perpetual relationship with Krishna.

Our original eternal svarupa is outside the realm of past, present and future and established in the ”eternal presence” of Krishna.

Maha Vishnu knows past, present and future, that is clear, however, this is inconceivable to us because we see things and and think "how can anyone know what I am going to do next?" 

So how can anyone know the future?

Well, Maha Vishnu already knows EVERYTHING, this means every material bodily vessel that the individual jiva soul occupy, already have a destiny mapped out.

This is because all material bodies are from the dreams of Maha Vishnu, who provides such bodily vessels to the jiva souls when they enter into His material creation.

Such bodily vessels and their entire pathway are all the dreams of Maha Vishnu, and are provided to those jiva souls who have chosen to enter His material creation.

Of course, the majority of jiva souls do not know this, or can even comprehend that the material body they have aquired or hired from Maha Vishnu, has an already set destiny known by Maha Vishnu. 

The visiting jiva souls are simply given a material body that matches their rebellious desires that caused them to leave the Spiritual Worlds in the first place.

Free will therefore only exists fully in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and NOT in the material creation after the jiva soul has chosen to enter Maha Vishnu's material dreams.

Krishna showed Arjuna ALL past, present and future in the material universe.

God (Maha Vishnu) knows EVERYTHING, He already knows the journey of every material bodily form or vessel, He therefore knows how each jiva soul within a material body, will act before they act.

This is because all material bodily vessels are already part of His material dreams that are acquired by the jiva souls after leaving the Spiritual Worlds.

And the jiva souls are just the hirer of such material vessels owned by Maha Vishnu.

Maha Vishnu created this material universe and all material bodily vessels long before the fallen jiva souls aquired them from Him.

The Vaikuntha Planets and Goloka Vrindavana are the real eternal Spiritual homes of all individual jiva souls or marginal living entities.

The real freedom of expressing one's free will, is realizing the freedom to choose to eternally serve Krishna.

The ultimate realization is we are all ‘individual jiva souls AS a "spiritual bodily form" and person who is an eternal servant of the Lord as their full potential, and is NOT material.

That realization is only possible when we understand that Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are our original homes as Krishna's friend or Vishnu’s eternal servant.

Predestination is seen from the viewpoint of the Maha Vishnu only because He is all knowing.

The embodied jiva soul trapped in a material bodily vessel, move through the flow of time in that material body, that leaves past experiences and moves forward towards an unknown (to them) future experience. 

Maha Vishnu is beyond the material time governing all Brahmanda universes with past, present and future.

Such material time of past, present and future is NOT experienced on His Spiritual abode where only the "eternal presence" of  seeing all of Maha Vishnu's dreams of past, present and future, are seen simultaneously. 

Most jiva souls have no capacity to see past, present or future all at once,  but Maha Vishnu does.

Although rare souls like Arjuna and Naradha Muni have been allowed to see this view of EVERYTHING that has existed and will exist in the material creation.

Although Arjuna became very afraid seeing his own future and the future events of his family.

At most we conditioned souls can calculate and speculate the probabilities of what may happen in future however, there is no such restriction for Maha Vishnu because He is beyond the concept of material time and space where EVERYTHING is already known by Maha Vishnu.

From Maha Vishnu’s point of view, everything in the material creation is already known, past, present, and future. 

From Maha Vishnu's viewpoint, ALL that exists in the past, present and future, exist simultaneously within all the material worlds (Brahmanda universes)

This is because He sees ABOVE the flow of material time's past, present and future.

This is possible because Maha Vishnu is God, who is ALWAYS situated on the spiritual platform within the "eternal presence" of the Spiritual Sky at all times, beyond the mundane temporary material Worlds He creates and manages.

Maha Vishnu therefore lives eternally in His Spiritual abode beyond and above the material flow of mundane time. As already explained, Maha Vishnu is able to see the past, the present and future events simultaneously.

Seeing the symptoms of material time as a constant state of decay, decline, disease, old age and death.

As already explained, Maha Vishnu  sees ALL His dreams of the material universe as real but temporary, from their beginning, middle and end. They ARE a temporary reality.

Maha Vishnu’s dreams are therefore very different from our night time illusionary dreams we have when we sleep.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Krishna gave Arjuna the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Krsna, Arjuna is able to see everything". (Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 7 text)

Remember, we do not have a soul because we ARE the jiva soul, known also as the jiva tattva, who enters into a temporary material bodily vessel, container or covering to experience the material creation.

The real self IS the Svarupa spiritual body and is eternal without beginning or end.

As Bhagavad Gita As It Is tells us-

"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain". (Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 Text 20)

Therefore we are NOT the billions of material bodily containers we possess while in this vast material universal creation.

Like frames on a movie reel where each frame always exist and is always there on the movie reel, even after it is seen.

Similarly the material bodily vessel is just like that film reel, and is also a permanent fixture of the material universe for jiva souls to access at anytime and travel through.

Just like one can watch a film at any point on that film reel, seeing the film as a permanent state of frame by frame that can be seen over and over again.

 This is because the film one watches is always there in the film library that anyone can rent and watch.  

The movement of past, present and future in the material creation is just like that.

Therefore, like a reel of film is seen frame by frame, the material body's movement through past, present and future is just like that. 

All that exists on fabric of material time only appears to move from birth to youth to old age and death, because of the influence of past, present and future.

In actual fact EVERYTHING is always in blue-print and therefore ALWAYS exists like a full film ALWAYS exists on a movie reel.

The material creation is both temporary and permanent simultaneously. 

There is the decaying effect of the movement through time in a material bodily biological vessel, the other is the perpetual blue-print of ALL past, present and future existing always simultaneously.

In other words, each step along the pathway of the material bodily vessel's journey, (through birth, youth, middle age, old age and death), is already on the movie canister or a blue-print,  and has always existed this way.

The temporary material universe is made up of permanent stages within the passage of time to help the trapped jiva souls try and enjoy the material creation, or get out of it if they choose, and return back home back to Godhead with Krishna.***