Friday, February 5, 2021

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love".

"Real love", devotion, surrender and genuine selfless service can only exist when "two" are involved in a "two-way" trade off based on a reciprocal relationship of loving exchanges.

"Love" between the devotee, Guru and Krishna can NEVER exist in a selfish, inconsiderate, "one-way" forceful impersonal atmosphere.

This means loving expressions and exchanges can NEVER exist in a dictatorial forceful relationship of just being told what to do, without having personal contributions and offerings by the individual jiva souls in Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha.

This is because loving devotion, obedience, trust and loyalty between Krishna and His devotee is NEVER a "one-way" street in the Spiritual Planets, it is ALWAYS a "two-way" change.

"Real love" can only exist when there are "two" involved in a trade off based on a reciprocal relationship founded on loving exchanges and reciprocation.

A "Loving relationship" with Krishna is NEVER founded on a demanding forceful relationship based on being mindlessly obedient and always told what to do and just obey without personal offerings of inputs and intelligent inquiry.

This kind of "impersonal surrender" is dangerous because the personality and character of the individual jiva soul's natural marginal attributes, are suppressed due to denying the jiva soul's their natural ability of self expression, independent thinking and personal contributions in the Spiritual World or the Kingdom of God (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha)

"Free will" in its full potential ONLY fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and is greatly restricted in the material creation to the point it almost does not exist (only existing in a limited minor way in the Human species)

It certainly does NOT exist in the lower species of life numbering 8 million species.

In regards to the expression of love Prabhupada says this -

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. When these things are transacted, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things MUST be there''. (Evening Darsana, August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Those in leadership who claim you do not even need to think for your self claiming they will do the thinking for you, are bogus dictatorial impersonalists and bullies and MUST be rejected.

"Real love" and genuine selfless service is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" exchange of feelings that means individual contributions, personal inputs that can only be genuine when the jiva soul can express their own independent individuality of free will. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krishna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Surrendering to Krishna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal, it does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The Spiritual Worlds are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless totalitarian place for the individual jiva souls with their relationship with Krishna. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not like that, there is ALWAYS loving exchanges of feelings and service based on reciprocation between Krishna and His devotees.

Without "free will" and the ability to reciprocate, the jiva soul or marginal living entity, is no better than dead stone that can never receive or give love.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

The Spiritual world's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges and cooperation between Krishna and His devotees, it is NEVER a "one way" demanding forceful relationship.       

Ultimately we are all Krishna's servant and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our "free will" and "individuality" to be Krishna's friend and servant.

The conclusion is, of course "free will" DOES exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha as part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva soul).

And yes, Krishna ALWAYS allows "free will" because if He didn't, then loving exchanges can never exist.

The fact is if Krishna denied the jiva soul's their "free will", then they can NEVER experience love or know what love is because ultimately love is a "two way" exchange of feelings, it is NEVER a "one way" street.

Those emotions expressed in a "one way" mood without having any exchange between two, is NOT love at all, it is selfishness, and is really impersonalism.

Therefore without "free will", without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krishna, the jiva soul will NEVER experience wonderful loving exchanges based on reciprocation and personal unique individual contributions to Krishna.

“Free will” or the ability to “choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and ALWAYS exists without beginning or end in ALL the Spiritual Planets.

Therefore freedom or "free will" means the jiva soul can choose to serve Krishna, or even reject Him if they want, it is their choice. 

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – “So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately each individual soul is a unique person who can choose for themselves to voluntarily serve Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him. 

As Prabhupada explains, Krishna never forces you to surrender to Him, never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary.

Srila Prabhupada – “Krishna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne June 25, 1974)

The amazing thing is, Krishna ALWAYS serves His pure devotees far more than they can EVER serve Him!!

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