Sunday, February 27, 2022

The percentage of Krsna's 64 qualities that His expansions have.

Krsna's direct expansions are called Visnu-tattva and Visnu-sakti-tattva, and His indirect expansions are called Siva-tattva (Siva who is in a league of his own and jiva-tattva, (the marginal living entities or jiva-souls)

Sakti means the energies of Krsna (God) including matter and the many categories of living entities. 

Visnu in front of the word sakti means direct expansions of Krsna like the Visnu-tattva's are.

So how many qualities of Krsna do the different expansions have?

This percentage is based on the number of Krsna's 64 qualities (100%) His other expansions have.

For example, Visnu-tattva Forms and Visnu-sakti-tattva Forms of God have 60 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes, which is 93.75% of Krsna's 100% qualities.

Siva-tattva has 54 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes, which is 84.375% of Krsna's 100% qualities.

Jiva-tattva has 50 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes, which is 78.125% of Krsna's 100% qualities.

Siva-tattva ( 84.375%) is between Visnu-tattva (93.75%) and the jiva-tattva or jiva-soul (78.125%).

Krsna always has 100% of His own attributes in full, which are His 64 qualities, and this is why Krsna is Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. 

Krsna is the original Form of Godhead from whom ALL His Visnu-tattva, Visnu-sakti-tattva,  Siva-tattva and jiva-tattva forms expand from.

This means the only difference between Srimati Radharani, Balarama, Maha-Visnu, Ramachandra etc, and Lord Krsna is Lord Krsna has an extra 4 qualities more than all of them, although they may exhibit those 4 unique qualities partially.

Therefore, not even Srimati Radharani, Krsna’s consort, or Balarama (Krsna's older brother) always have those 4 extra unique qualities like Krsna always has perpetually.

The 64 qualities of Krsna.

Only Krsna has 64 qualities in full because He is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

The Visnu-tattva (Visnu/Narayana) expansions of Krsna, who are also God, have only 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes or 93.75% of Krsna's qualities.

Some Vedic scholars and modern-day Hindu academics can not understand why Krsna has 4 more qualities than Visnu/Narayana and why Krsna IS the ORIGINAL Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

They cannot understand that Visnu/Narayana are expansions of Krsna and NOT the other way around, that Krsna originates from Visnu as many Hindus today wrongly believe.

Even the word Hindu is not found in Vedic texts because it is an alien word introduced by primitive European and  Islamic invaders to the Indian sub-continent around 15 hundred years ago. 

Krsna is NOT an expansion of Visnu either as many Hindus wrongly believe today.

The fact is Krsna is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes from who ALL Visnu forms originate from.

The 4 qualities or attributes Visnu or Narayana do NOT have in full are as follows-

(1) Krsna is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).

(2) Krsna is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.

(3) Krsna can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.

(4) Krsna has a wonderful excellence of beauty which can not be rivalled anywhere in the creation.

These four qualities out of Krsna's 64 attributes are important to understand because, as said, not even Visnu/Narayana forms of God have them "in full," only sometimes exhibited partially.

All expansions of Krsna are-

1 - Visnu-tattva have 60 qualities out of Krsna's 64 attributes, which is 93.75 of Krsna's total qualities.

2 - Visnu-sakti- tattvas (this category of sakti potency or energy means Srimati Radharani, who also has 60 qualities of Krsna's 64 qualities or 93.75 of Krsna's qualities.

3 - Siva-tattva has 55 qualities out of Krsna's 64 attributes or 84.375% of Krsna's qualities.

4 - Jiva-tattva souls have 50 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes, which is 78.125% of Krsna's qualities.

The Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna has all sixty-four transcendental qualities in full.

So, the difference between Krsna (64 qualities) and Visnu/Narayana (60 qualities) are the four extra qualities that only Krsna has in full.

The full extent of Krsna's wonderful qualities or attributes is inconceivable.

Here are Krsna's 64 qualities or attributes-

(1) Beautiful features of the entire body

(2) Marked with all auspicious characteristics

(3) Extremely pleasing

(4) Effulgent

(5) Strong

(6) Ever youthful

(7) Wonderful linguist

(8) Truthful

(9) Talks pleasingly

(10) Fluent

(11) Highly learned

(12) Highly intelligent

(13) Genius

(14) Artistic

(15) Extremely clever

(16) Expert

(17) Grateful

(18) Firmly determined

(19) An expert judge of time and circumstances

(20) Sees and speaks on the authority of Vedas (scriptures)

(21) Pure

(22) Self-controlled

(23) Steadfast

(24) Forbearing

(25) Forgiving

(26) Grave

(27) Self-satisfied

(28) Possessing equilibrium

(29) Magnanimous

(30) Religious

(31) Heroic

(32) Compassionate

(33) Respectful

(34) Gentle

(35) Liberal

(36) Shy

(37) The protector of surrendered souls

(38) Happy

(39) The well-wisher of devotees

(40) Controlled by love

(41) all-auspicious

(42) Most powerful

(43) all-famous

(44) Popular

(45) Partial to devotees

(46) Very attractive to all women

(47) all-worship able

(48) all-opulent

(49) all-honourable

(50) The supreme controller.

(51) Changeless

(52) all-cognizant

(53) Ever fresh

(54) sac-cid-ananda-vigraha (as an eternal blissful bodily Form)

(55) Possessing all mystic perfections.

(56) He has inconceivable potency.

(57) Uncountable universes generate from His body.

(58) He is the original source of all incarnations.

(59) He is the giver of salvation to the enemies whom He kills.

(60) He is the attractor of liberated souls.

As explained  above, besides these sixty transcendental qualities, Krsna has four more not manifested even in the Visnu/Narayana form of Godhead, what to speak of the demigods or living entities.

They are as follows-

(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).

(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.

(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.

(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty that can not be rivalled anywhere in the creation.

The Absolute Truth Lord Krsna is anandamaya (desiring to increase His joy), hence, from Krsna's original form, He expands and becomes many.

These emanations from the Supreme Person are of two categories: full expansions and partially manifested expansions.

The Lord's various full and partial expansions and the Lord Himself simultaneously co-exist, only appearing to manifest under the influence of time.

These expansions of Krsna are known as Visnu-tattva Forms of God, and they are also the Supreme Absolute Truth such as-

Balarama, 

Pradyumna, 

Ramachandra, 

Narsingadeva,  

Narayana, 

Visnu,

Maha Visnu, 

Garbhodakashayi Visnu, etc

And then there is Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas like Radharani and many other inhabitants including many gopis and gopas who are technically Krsna Himself playing a role in His own Vrindavana pastimes alongside the jiva-souls.

All Visnu-tattva and Visnu-sakti-tattva accept their own role in the mood of Servitor to the "original" Supreme Being Lord Krsna.

For example, Visnu and Narayana Forms are known by many different names on their particular Vaikuntha Planet in the Spiritual sky.

This relationship is the foundation of Vedic monotheism, which encompasses the inconceivable, absolute personal nature of the original Godhead.

As explained above, Lord Krsna possesses two other expansive qualities known as Siva-tattva and jiva-tattva (jiva-souls). 

Together with Visnu-tattva and Visnu-sakti-tattvas, these four personalities are representative of the Absolute Person's (Krsna's) internal, external, and marginal energies.

The Lord expands Himself as Lord Siva and Lord Brahma, and the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are also expansions.

Like us, Lord Brahma is also jiva-tattva (78.125%)

Lord Siva is between Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva (84.375%)

Lord Visnu/Narayana is Visnu-tattva (93.75%)

And Radharani is Visnu-sakti-tattva (93.75%), which only means she does not always exhibit Krsna's four extra qualities always in full.

When Krsna desired to experience loving affection and exchanges with a woman, He expanded Himself as Srimati Radharani, who is none different than Krsna.

Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva are different categories of living entities but are all expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna.

Therefore, as a reminder, we can summarize as follows-

Lord Krsna. Has all 64 qualities or 100%

Visnu-tattva. Has 60 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes or 93.75%

Visnu-sakti-tattvas. Has 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes qualities or 93.75%

Siva-tattva. Has 54 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes or 84.375%

Jiva-tattva (jiva-souls). Has 50 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes or 78.125%

This is the reason why Krsna is called Param Purushottam, Purnavatar or Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Learned scholars in transcendental subjects have carefully analyzed the summum bonum Krsna to have sixty-four principal attributes.

All the expansions or categories of the Lord possess only some percentages of these attributes. But Sri Krsna is the possessor of the attributes cent percent.

His personal expansions such as svayam-prakasa, tad-ekatma up to the categories of the avataras who are all visnu-tattva, possess up to 93.75% of these transcendental attributes." (Srimad Bhagavatam 1.3.29)

Lord Siva is neither avatara nor avesa, nor in between them; he possesses 84.375% of Krsna's attributes.

But, the jiva-souls or the individual marginal living entities possess up to the limit of 78.125% of Krsns's attributes.

In the conditioned state of material existence, the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) exhibit these attributes in very minute quantity in the material creation, varying in terms of the pious and impious life of the living being.

Only in the spiritual world are the jiva-soul's full potential fully experienced.

The most perfect of living beings in this material universe is Brahma, the supreme administrator of each material universe deep inside their surrounding Brahmanda greater universe.

Lord Brahma, who is jiva-tattva, possesses 78.125% per cent of Krsna's 100% attributes.

All the demigods except Siva have only 78.125% attributes or have 50 of Krsna's 64 qualities also. 

All the species of material life also possess these same attributes in their full potential because they are also jiva-tattva soul but are presently covered by material energy.

The standard of perfection for a human being is to develop their full potential of up to 78.125% in full. The marginal living entities or jiva-tattvas can NEVER possess attributes like Siva, Visnu, Radharani, or Lord Krsna.

A living being or marginal living entity (jiva-souls) can become godly by developing their full potential of 78.125% of their attributes but can NEVER become a God like Krsna or Visnu (93.75%) or Siva (84.375%).

Although, as said, he can become a Brahma in due course.

The godly living beings who are all residents of the Vaikuntha planets in the spiritual sky are eternal associates of Visnu in different spiritual planets called Hari-dhama and Mahesa-dhama.

However, the abode of Lord Krsna Goloka Vrindavana is above all the Vaikuntha planets and is called Krsnaloka or Goloka Vrndavana.

The marginal living entity (jiva-soul) can develop 78.125% of the above attributes in full, which is their full potential; they can NEVER become Krsna or Visnu.

By reaching their full potential of 78.125%, the jiva-souls can AGAIN enter the planet of Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana) after leaving their present decaying material bodily vessel..*..














Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

The original Krsna resides in His personal abode known as Goloka-Vrindavan and never leaves.

When Krsna enters the material creation it is actually His Visnu-tattva expansion playing the role of Krsna Prabhupada has explained.

Krsna is the original source of all Narayana or Visnu forms of God who are His expansions residing in the quadrillions of perpetual Vaikuntha Planets that surround His central abode of Goloka-Vrindavana (taking up 75% of the Spiritual Sky)

Krsna further expands, via His first Visnu-tattva expansion, first as Balarama and eventually as Maha-Visnu (Karanodakshayi Visnu) who creates and manages the unlimited temporary material universes called Brahmandas that take up 25% of the Spiritual Sky.

These unlimited number of Brahmandas are coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu through His breathing and pores.

Each Brahmanda is massive in size and houses a secondary smaller spherical material universe inside of them.

Each individual material universe is up of material qualities (both subtle and gross material elements)

Each massive Brahmanda universe covers, encases and surrounds an inner material universe deep inside them with 7 or 8 layers of material qualities.

Maha-Visnu expands again as Garbhodakashayi Visnu who creates this secondary material universal sphere deep inside the Brahmanda.

Then from Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Brahma manifests who creates the different planetary systems within each inner secondary material universe spread out as a flat disc made up of millions of planets as explained in Srimad Bhagavatam.

Due to the massive material elements that make up the outer Brahmanda universe, no one inside their inner universe can see outside of their own universe Srimad Bhagavatam explains.

This means from within our small material universe inside our Brahmanda, we cannot see the billions of other Brahmandas around us.

Deep inside our Brahmanda is a secondary universe where Brahma creates the 14 different planetary systems.

Each secondary material universe deep inside their Brahmanda, has a different amount of planetary systems according to Srimad Bhagavatam.

In other words, the Brahmanda universe and its inner secondary universe inside it, all come in different sizes.

Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) is actually sleeping and is always DREAMING the activities within each of the secondary material universes deep within the unlimited number of Brahmandas.

Those dreams Maha-Visnu has, are all the activities happening within each of the Garbhodakashayi Visnu's secondary universes.

In painting below Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) is seen laying down sleeping and Garbhodakashayi Visnu is seen within each of His Brahmanda universes.

When Maha-Visnu dreams, He first creates the entire material universe known as the Maha-tattva (matter) which takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti.

As said the other 75% is the active spiritual world (anti-matter) that is ever fresh, always youthful and never ending, known as the perpetual Vaikuntha Planets of Visnu and Krsna's central abode of Goloka-Vrindavan.

Within Maha-Visnu's 25% of the Spiritual Sky called the temporary material creation, we find it is always in a state of decay, decline and impermanence, requiring constant maintenance.

Each jiva-soul who chooses to enter the material creation, are forced into repeated birth and death, forced to possess (or take) temporary material bodily outer vessels or containers.

The visiting jiva-souls in the material creation, are forced to take repeated births again and again because the material bodies they are in, simply wear out, get old, break down and eventually cease to operate.

So to be clear-

1 - Within this temporary material creation, we find unlimited individual massive single Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu.

2 - And deep inside each of those massive Brahmanda universes, there is a secondary smaller universe where Maha-Visnu expands Himself as Garbhodakashayi Vishnu.

3 - And from Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Lord Brahma appears from His naval at the top of a lotus flower.

4 - Then Lord Brahma builds the many planetary systems inside each of the inner secondary universes deep inside their individual Brahmanda.

There is only one Maha-Visnu in the material creation yet an unlimited number of Garbhodakashayi Visnus and Lord Brahmas.

Also it is important to understand, the amount of Planetary Systems deep inside each Brahmanda, vary in size, some larger and some smaller than others.

Our material universe within our Brahmanda has 14 Planetary Systems and is considered a small universe explained in Bhagavatam as 4 billion miles in diameter.

Some Vedic Cosmologists think this figure of 4 billion miles in diameter describing our material universe inside our Brahmanda, is too small of a figure.

Some Vedic scholars suggest the figure of 4 billion miles or 500 million yojanas, as decribed in the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, is really a code that needs decoding because they claim just our Solar System alone is said to be 22 billion miles in diameter.

Another answer is the measurement of space and time is different on each planetary system just like the fabric of space-time moves at a different  rate in each of the 14 planetary systems.

For example, 100 Earth years on Brahmaloka, the highest planetary system out of the 14 systems, is 311 trillion and 40 billion human years long.

So there maybe far more to this figure claiming our material universe is just 4 billion miles in diameter.

Other universes inside their Brahmanda, have many more Planetary Systems than just 14 and are therefore much bigger than 4 billion miles in diameter.

The fact is, the size of each Brahmanda and their inner universe, depends on the how many heads Lord Brahma has.

Some Lord Brahmas, like ours, has only 4 heads, while other Brahma's within their universe inside their Brahmanda, may have 10, 20, 50, 500, 1000, 100,000 or even a million or more heads.

In this way, all the quadrillions of Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of the sleeping Maha-Visnu (as seen in painting below), ALL have a secondary inner universe deep inside it also seen in painting.

Each massive Brahmanda universe has 7 material coverings or layers that surround and enclose each of the inner secondary material universe, this means the massive outer Brahmanda surrounding universe we are deep within, is 44 quadrillion 444 trillion 444 billion miles in diameter.

This explanation maybe the full size of the Brahmanda or could be just from the outer edge of our inner universe (called Bhu-Mandala among other names)

If that is true then the full size of our Brahmanda is double the figure above.

The sleeping Maha-Visnu (Karanadakashayi Visnu) expands Himself into the inner secondary universe deep inside each Brahmanda, as Garbhodakashayi Visnu.

This secondary material universe is in the centre of each massive Brahmanda universe.

In the Bhagavatam, Bhu-Mandala is the “Earth mandala” (not to be confused with our small earth globe), a disk 500 million yojanas in diameter (4 billion miles in diameter)

The word ''Earth'' has many meanings.

For example, our small Earth global round sphere is only 24,901 miles in circumference and is 7,917.5 miles in diameter, it is NOT Bhu-Mandala.

Our Bhu-Mandala material universe is 500 million yojanas in diameter or 4 billion miles in diameter or 12.6 billion miles in circumference.

A yojana is a unit of distance about 8 miles long, and so the diameter of Bhu-Mandala is about 4 billion miles in diameter which is the size of our single material universe.

Our Earth planet is NOT flat! It is a round global sphere.

Srila Prabhupada - "On the ground our earth looks flat but when you go up you will see our Earth planet is a ball." (Lecture New York 1966.)

The Sanskrit word "Dvīpa" has two meanings

1 - "Islands" or "continents" on a planet

2 - "Globes or spheres" in outer space.

Bhu-Mandala is marked by circular features designated as islands (Dvipas that can also mean planets) and oceans.

Srila Prabhupada -"The "planets" are called "dvīpas". Outer space is like an ocean of air. Just as there are islands in the watery ocean, these planets in the ocean of space are called dvīpas, or islands in outer space." (Caitanya Caritamrita Madhya 20.218, Purport)

Therefore Bhu-Mandala is far too big to be our small earth globe.

But this does describe our small single universe with its 14 planetary Systems deep within our surrounding Brahmanda.

Therefore the 14 planetary Systems deep within our surrounding Brahmanda, would therefore fit in the circumference of Bhu-Mandala 4 billion miles (500,000,000 Yojanas in diameter)

The jiva-souls can stay for an almost eternity in the temporary decaying material universes cycles of annihilation and creation if they choose.

When Lord Brahma dies after 100 of his years (311 trillion and 40 billion human years), there is an equal period of his life span of 311 trillion, 40 billion human years where nothing living exists, everything in the material universe remains dormant for that enormous amount of time.

Then the next material creation of Brahmanda's manifest from Maha-Visnu (Karanadakashayi Visnu)

All jiva-souls have merged as "individual units" into the Body of Karanadakashayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) and remain that way until the next creation of Brahmandas when they again manifest from Maha-Visnu's Spiritual Body as seen in painting below.

In other words, in the next new creation of Brahmandas coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu, all the dormant jiva-souls awaken and continue on again within a secondary universe that is deep inside each Brahmanda outer universe, from where they left off in the previous inner material universe.

As explained, a secondary smaller universe is deep within each of the massive surrounding Brahmanda outer single universes that all lasts for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years, or the life span of Lord Brahma.

It is important to understand at the annihilation of each Brahmanda universe, and its inner secondary universe inside the Brahmanda, Garbhodakashayi Visnu temporarily merges back as the one with Maha-Visnu until the next Brahmanda universes manifests from the breathing and pores of Maha Visnu.

Then the process repeats itself, the sleeping Maha-Visnu (Karanadakashayi Visnu) expands Himself into the inner secondary universe that is deep inside each Brahmanda as Garbhodakashayi Visnu that is in the centre of each Brahmanda universe.

The jiva-souls are suspended in ''inactivity'' (dormant) within the Body of Karanadakashayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) for 311 trillion 40 billion human years.

The jiva-souls re-emerge and continue on (their karma) from where they left off in the previous creation...***..















Friday, February 25, 2022

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two persons, when there is an exchange only then is there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God these things must be there." (Aug, 1976, Tehran)

Loving service or surrender by the jiva-souls in their relationship with Visnu in Vaikuntha, and Krsna in Goloka Vrindavan, is never a one-sided affair. 

Sadly under a loveless one-way condition, the individual is denied being able to voluntarily express themselves by offering their own contributions meant to enrich the relationship of loving exchanges, making one's association with a personal two-way exchange of loving affection. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Love can never be experienced by only one, there MUST always be two if there is to be genuine loving exchanges." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Free will in its full potential, is only fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan, which are the jiva-souls original perpetual homes.

This wonderful person Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, including the origin of all Narayana or Visnu forms of God.

Krsna is the cause for the jiva-souls having free will meant for allowing them to make their own decisions of how they want to serve Krsna in their own unique personal way, or even reject Krsna if they choose to do so.

This choice of accepting or rejecting Krsna must always be available to the jiva-souls if real freedom is to truly exist.

There must always exist the ability to choose because love can never exist without the jiva-souls also voluntarily contributing to the relationship with Krsna.

Freedom or free will can only is only possible to experience in its full potential when there is a two-way relationship in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

This allows loving exchanges to go on in a meaningful personal way between the jiva-souls and Krsna. 

If Krsna was in complete control of the jiva-soul's every actions, thoughts and deeds, such a dominating relationship would extinguish the jiva-soul's personal independent identity and unique personality, including their free will to voluntarily contribute to their relationship with Krsna.

Under those conditions of not being allowed to express themselves as an independent thinking individual person, how can there be genuine voluntary offerings based on loving exchanges?

By denying the jiva-soul's their free will to voluntary contribute in their relationship with Krsna, is stagnating their natural spiritual growth with Krsna.

The jiva-souls in Goloka-Vrindavan and Vaikuntha voluntarily serve Krsna in their own unique way as the independent individual they are eternally, only then can there be real genuine loving exchanges.

Fortunately, the jiva-souls always have the right to voluntarily contribute their own unique offerings to Krsna in the spiritual world, only then can loving emotions, based on the reciprocation of good feelings and exchanges between two, work.

Real loving service, or devotional exchanges, will only work when there is a respectful relationship strongly founded in a two-way voluntary contributing exchange.

Therefore love can NEVER be experienced with just one person, there MUST be two.

A loving relationship is always based on a good exchange of loving feelings and emotions between two Prabhupada tells us. 

This idea that love is only found within one's self is not real love at all, it is both ignorance and impersonalism.

The same selfish impersonalism is pursued by the Mayavadi yogi as he attempts to extinguish his individual identity and personality, and enter or merge their individuality into the oneness of the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman.

This indulgence of being selfishly merged within some nonsense inactive impersonal oneness of yogic trance, is spiritual suicide to a Vaisnava devotee of Krsna.

This is because the deluded jiva-soul as this impersonalist yogi, is attempting to deny their eternal individuality by ceasing all activity and becoming one with all things, which actually is an illusion. 

Therefore the yogi falsely believes they have extinguished their unique individual identity and personality believing they have become one with God - another illusion.

Real love or service is never a one way dominance, it always means a two-way exchange of good feelings otherwise there is no possibility of love.

Love in the spiritual worlds is always based on the reciprocation between two, between the marginal living entities and the Supreme Lord (either Visnu or Krsna) because love can only exist when there is a caring respectful nurturing relationship between two-

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Krsna gave the jiva-souls their free will so they can voluntarily choose to love Him instead of being impersonally programmed to mindlessly obey and never think for themselves.

As said above, without free will in both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavan, the jiva-souls are no better than dead emotionless stone, there can be no possibility of loving exchanges or any feelings of love.

It is very important to understand this explanation of why the jiva-soul must have their freedom (free will). 

Srila Prabhupada tells us that without free will, love cannot exist.

The good thing is, free will always exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha as part and parcel of the jiva-soul's constitutional make up as the marginal living entity they are (individual jiva-soul).

And yes, Krsna always allows free will because love can not be experienced or expressed without free will, this is why Krsna always allows free will.

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval does the jiva-souls have their free will to begin with, so how do we understand this? Because a reciprocal relationship between two can only work when there is free will.

Free will means a relationship between two. The fact is Krsna will never deny the jiva-soul's their free will! 

Without free free the jiva-souls can never experience loving exchanges as Prabhupada says above, or know what loving exchanges even are, which is only experienced in a two-way relationship of giving and accepting.

Therefore without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings based on independent choices, then the jiva-soul will never experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation, and the personal unique individual loving contributions with Krsna.

As Prabhupada says above, without free will we are no better than dead stone!

Free will or the ability to choose is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and always exists without beginning or end in the spiritual planets.

However, free will in its full potential, is only fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, which is the jiva-souls original perpetual home.

Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we may miss use it?"

Srila Prabhupada – "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don’t misuse your free will. But don’t try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada – "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, If you catch one girl or boy, You love me, you love me, you love me. Is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. You love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).

As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls are never a one-way relationship of convenience that denies personal contributions and choices.

No, love is always based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there are two-

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two persons, when there is an exchange, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God these things must be there." (Aug, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately each individual soul is a unique independent person who can choose for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krsna, or even ignore Him if they choose to do so. 

Free will only works when the jiva-souls are also allowed reject Krsna and Visnu in the spiritual worlds if they choose to do so, others wise what is the meaning of having free will?

Therefore those so called great Vaisnavas, including many past Vedic authorities, have not understood these points and what free will means, which is any jiva-soul in both the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka Vrindavana, can fall down at anytime if they choose to do so.

No position is permanent, not even being in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), this is because the jiva-souls always have their free will, their right to make choices too.

As Prabhupada explains, Krsna never forces the jiva-souls to surrender to Him, never forces the jiva-souls to love Him, that must be voluntary.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST bevoluntary."(Melb June 25, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

In the following conversation Srila Prabhupada is explaining to us that Krsna is always in control.

This is because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

This includes allowing the jiva-souls to have their independence and free will explained here–

Syamasundara dasa – "Does the individual jiva-soul have a little independence to choose?"

Srila Prabhupada – "No, Bhagavad-Gita states that when the individual jiva-soul wants to act, Krsna gives the orders. Man proposes, and God disposes." (Dialectical Spiritualism, A Vedic View).

Srila Prabhupada is saying here the individual jiva-souls cannot have their little independence or free will without the sanction of Krsna first. 

This is because Krsna is the cause of all causes, it is only by His will alone that the jiva-souls have their freedom (free will) for the purpose of choosing for themselves how to voluntarily love and serve Krsna instead of being a mindless drone that is always to what to do, how to think, and what they must offer to Krsna.

Syamasundara dasa – "So we have no free will?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Not without the sanction of Krsna. Without Him, we cannot do anything! Therefore Krishna is the ultimate cause of all causes." (Dialectical Spiritualism, A Vedic View).

The conclusion is, free will always exists in Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha as part and parcel of the jiva-soul's constitutional make up that every marginal living entity has.

And yes, Krsna always allows free will because without freedom of expression, there can never be any loving exchanges with Krsna.

This is why Krsna always allows free will?

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval that the jiva-souls have their free will to begin with. 

The point behind this comment by Prabhupada is Krsna comes first because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

Other than this point establishing who is the Supreme Controller, the fact is only by having "free will" can the jiva-souls voluntarily make their own choices of how they want to have a loving exchange with Krsna, or just be His mindless drones and no free will.

As explained above and made very clear here, if Krsna denied the jiva-souls their free will, then they will never experience voluntary loving exchanges and know what real love and freedom really is, just by being Krsna's mindless puppet without personal contributions, is impersonalism because in that condition the jiva-souls are no better than dead stone.

In other words, without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva-souls can never experience personal wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and unique individual expressions in their relationship with Krsna. 

Real love is voluntary and can never exist in a one-way or one-sided domineering way where personal contributions are denied ignored or not appreciated. 

That kind of impersonal association only "extinguishes" the jiva-soul's individuality, free-will, and their ability to contribute their own unique offerings.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)   

Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world service is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there if they want to be a flower and lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change from flower to human body also. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6.1.1-4 - Melb, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture on BG Ch 9 text 2-5, New York, Nov 23, 1966)

Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we may miss use it?"

Srila Prabhupada – "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don’t misuse your free will. But don’t try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here? Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada – "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, If you catch one girl or boy, You love me, you love me, you love me. Is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. You love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).

Without the jiva-souls making their own contribution to the relationship with Krsna based on free will, then how can loving exchanges with Krsna ever take place?*^.



















Wednesday, February 23, 2022

64 qualities of Krsna.

Only Krsna has 64 qualities in full because He is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.
The Visnu-tattva (Visnu/Narayana) expansions of Krsna, who are also God, have only 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes or 93.75% of Krsna's qualities.
Some Vedic scholars and modern-day Hindu academics can not understand why Krsna has 4 more qualities than Visnu/Narayana and why Krsna IS the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.
They cannot understand that Visnu/Narayana are expansions of Krsna and not the other way around, that Krsna originates from Visnu as many Hindus today wrongly believe.
Even the word Hindu is not found in Vedic texts because it is an alien word introduced by primitive European and  Islamic invaders to the Indian sub-continent around 15 hundred years ago. 
Krsna is not an expansion of Visnu either as many Hindus wrongly believe today.
The fact is Krsna is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes from who all Visnu forms originate from.
The 4 qualities or attributes Visnu or Narayana do not have in full are as follows-
(61) Krsna is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).
(62) Krsna is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.
(63) Krsna can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.
(64) Krsna has a wonderful excellence of beauty which can not be rivalled anywhere in the creation.
These four qualities out of Krsna's 64 attributes are important to understand because, as said, not even Visnu/Narayana forms of God have them in full, only sometimes exhibited partially.
All expansions of Krsna are-
1 - Visnu-tattva have 60 qualities out of Krsna's 64 attributes, which is 93.75 of Krsna's total qualities.
2 - Visnu-sakti- tattvas (this category of "sakti" potency or energy means Srimati Radharani, who also has 60 qualities of Krsna's 64 qualities or 93.75 of Krsna's qualities.
3 - Siva-tattva have 55 qualities out of Krsna's 64 attributes or 85.938% of Krsna's qualities.
4 - Jiva-tattva souls have 50 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes, which is 78.125% of Krsna's qualities.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna has all sixty-four transcendental qualities in full.
So, the difference between Krsna (64 qualities) and Visnu/Narayana (60 qualities) are the four extra qualities that only Krsna has in full.
The full extent of Krsna's wonderful qualities or attributes is inconceivable.
Here are Krsna's 64 qualities or attributes-
(1) Beautiful features of the entire body
(2) Marked with all auspicious characteristics
(3) Extremely pleasing
(4) Effulgent
(5) Strong
(6) Ever youthful
(7) Wonderful linguist
(8) Truthful
(9) Talks pleasingly
(10) Fluent
(11) Highly learned
(12) Highly intelligent
(13) Genius
(14) Artistic
(15) Extremely clever
(16) Expert
(17) Grateful
(18) Firmly determined
(19) An expert judge of time and circumstances
(20) Sees and speaks on the authority of Vedas (scriptures)
(21) Pure
(22) Self-controlled
(23) Steadfast
(24) Forbearing
(25) Forgiving
(26) Grave
(27) Self-satisfied
(28) Possessing equilibrium
(29) Magnanimous
(30) Religious
(31) Heroic
(32) Compassionate
(33) Respectful
(34) Gentle
(35) Liberal
(36) Shy
(37) The protector of surrendered souls
(38) Happy
(39) The well-wisher of devotees
(40) Controlled by love
(41) all-auspicious
(42) Most powerful
(43) all-famous
(44) Popular
(45) Partial to devotees
(46) Very attractive to all women
(47) all-worship able
(48) all-opulent
(49) all-honourable
(50) The supreme controller.
(51) Changeless
(52) all-cognizant
(53) Ever fresh
(54) sat-cit-ananda-vigraha which means eternity, knowledge, bliss and form.  Kṛṣṇa always has an eternal "bodily 2 armed form."
(55) Possessing all mystic perfections.
(56) He has inconceivable potency.
(57) Uncountable universes generate from His body.
(58) He is the original source of all incarnations.
(59) He is the giver of salvation to the enemies whom He kills.
(60) He is the attractor of liberated souls.
As explained  above, besides these sixty transcendental qualities, Krsna has four more not manifested even in the Visnu/Narayana form of Godhead, what to speak of the demigods or living entities.
They are as follows-
(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).
(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.
(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.
(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty that can not be rivalled anywhere in the creation.
The Absolute Truth Lord Krsna is anandamaya (desiring to increase His joy), hence, from Krsna's original form, He expands and becomes many.
These emanations from the Supreme Person are of two categories: full expansions and partially manifested expansions.
The Lord's various full and partial expansions and the Lord Himself simultaneously co-exist, only appearing to manifest under the influence of time.
These expansions of Krsna are known as Visnu-tattva Forms of God, and they are also the Supreme Absolute Truth such as-
Balarama, 
Pradyumna, 
Ramachandra, 
Narsingadeva,  
Narayana, 
Visnu,
Maha Visnu, 
Garbhodakashayi Visnu, etc
And then there is Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas like Radharani and many other inhabitants including many gopis and gopas who are technically Krsna Himself playing a role in His own Vrindavana pastimes alongside the jiva-souls.
All Visnu-tattva and Visnu-sakti-tattva accept their own role in the mood of Servitor to the "original" Supreme Being Lord Krsna.
For example, Visnu and Narayana Forms are known by many different names on their particular Vaikuntha Planet in the Spiritual sky.
This relationship is the foundation of Vedic monotheism, which encompasses the inconceivable, absolute personal nature of the original Godhead.
As explained above, Lord Krsna possesses two other expansive qualities known as Siva-tattva and jiva-tattva (jiva-souls). 
Together with Visnu-tattva and Visnu-sakti-tattvas, these four personalities are representative of the Absolute Person's (Krsna's) internal, external, and marginal energies.
The Lord expands Himself as Lord Siva and Lord Brahma, and the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are also expansions.
Like us, Lord Brahma is also jiva-tattva (78.125%)
Lord Siva is between Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva (84.375%)
Lord Visnu/Narayana is Visnu-tattva (93.75%)
And Radharani is Visnu-sakti-tattva (93.75%), which only means she does not always exhibit Krsna's four extra qualities always in full.
When Krsna desired to experience loving affection and exchanges with a woman, He expanded Himself as Srimati Radharani, who is none different than Krsna.
Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva are different categories of living entities but are all expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna.
Therefore, as a reminder, we can summarize as follows-
Lord Krsna has all His 64 qualities (100%)
Visnu-tattva has 60 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes (93.75%)
Visnu-sakti-tattvas also has 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes (93.75%)
Siva-tattva has 55 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes (85.938%)
Jiva-tattva (jiva-souls) has 50 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes (78.125%)
This is the reason why Krsna is called Param Purushottam, Purnavatar or Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. 
Srila Prabhupada - "Learned scholars in transcendental subjects have carefully analyzed the summum bonum Krsna to have sixty-four principal attributes.
All the expansions or categories of the Lord possess only some percentages of these attributes. But Sri Krsna is the possessor of the attributes cent percent.
His personal expansions such as svayam-prakasa, tad-ekatma up to the categories of the avataras who are all visnu-tattva, possess up to 93.75% of these transcendental attributes." (Srimad Bhagavatam 1.3.29)
Lord Siva is neither avatara nor avesa, nor in between them; he possesses 84.375% of Krsna's attributes (having 55 qualities out of Krsna's 64 qualities).
The jiva-souls or the individual marginal living entities, possess up to the limit of 78.125% of Krsns's attributes.
The jiva-souls can never be Siva-tattva or Visnu tattva.
In the conditioned state of material existence, the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) exhibit up to 50 of these attributes in very minute quantity in the material creation, varying in terms of the pious and impious life of the living being.
Only in the spiritual world are the jiva-soul's full potential fully experienced.
The most perfect of living beings in this material universe is Brahma, the supreme administrator of each material universe deep inside their surrounding Brahmanda greater universe.
Lord Brahma, who is also jiva-tattva, possesses 78.125% per cent of Krsna's 100% attributes, he cannot possess anymore than.
All the demigods (except Siva) have only 78.125% attributes or have 50 of Krsna's 64 qualities also. 
All jiva-souls trapped within the 8 million 400 thousand species of material life, eternally possess these 50 attributes in their full potential in the Spiritual worlds but presently are covered by material energy.
The standard of perfection for a human being is to develop their full potential of up to 78.125% in full. 
A living being or marginal living entity (jiva-souls) can become godly by developing their full potential of 78.125% of their attributes but can never become a God like Krsna or Visnu (93.75%) or Siva (85.938%).
Although, as said, he can become a Brahma in due course.
The godly living beings who are all residents of the Vaikuntha planets in the spiritual sky are eternal associates of Visnu in different spiritual planets called Hari-dhama and Mahesa-dhama.
However, the abode of Lord Krsna Goloka Vrindavana is above all the Vaikuntha planets and is called Krsnaloka or Goloka Vrndavana.
The marginal living entity (jiva-soul) can develop 78.125% of the above attributes in full, which is their full potential; they can never become Krsna or Visnu.
By reaching their full potential of 78.125%, the jiva-souls can again enter the planet of Krsna-loka (Goloka-Vrindavana) and the Vaikuntha planets after leaving their present decaying material bodily vessel in the material creation.
The marginal living entities or jiva-souls can never possess attributes like Siva, Visnu, Radharani, Balarama or Lord Krsna.
Bhagavad Purana (Srimad Bhagavatam) Canto I Ch 3 text 28
TEXT 28
ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ
kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam
indrāri-vyākulaṁ lokaṁ
mṛḍayanti yuge yuge
Translation
All of the incarnations are either plenary portions or portions of the plenary portions of the Lord, but Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the original Personality of Godhead. All of them appear on planets whenever there is a disturbance created by the atheists. The Lord incarnates to protect the theists. 
Purport by Srila Prabhupada 
Learned scholars in transcendental subjects have carefully analyzed the summum bonum Kṛṣṇa to have sixty-four principal attributes. 
All the expansions or categories of the Lord possess only some percentages of these attributes. But Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the possessor of the attributes cent percent. 
And His personal expansions such as svayam-prakāśa, tad-ekātmā up to the categories of the avatāras who are all viṣṇu-tattva, possess up to ninety-three percent of these transcendental attributes. 
Lord Śiva, who is neither avatāra nor āveśa nor in between them, possesses almost eighty-four percent of the attributes.
But the jīvas, or the individual living beings in different statuses of life, possess up to the limit of seventy-eight percent of the attributes. In the conditioned state of material existence, the living being possesses these attributes in very minute quantity, varying in terms of the pious life of the living being. 
The most perfect of living beings is Brahmā, the supreme administrator of one universe. He possesses seventy-eight percent of the attributes in full. 
All other demigods have the same attributes in less quantity, whereas human beings possess the attributes in very minute quantity. The standard of perfection for a human being is to develop the attributes up to seventy-eight percent in full.
The living being can never possess attributes like Śiva, Viṣṇu or Lord Kṛṣṇa. A living being can become godly by developing the seventy-eight-percent transcendental attributes in fullness, but he can never become a God like Śiva, Viṣṇu or Kṛṣṇa. He can become a Brahmā in due course.
The godly living beings who are all residents of the planets in the spiritual sky are eternal associates of God in different spiritual planets called Hari-dhāma and Maheśa-dhāma. 
The abode of Lord Kṛṣṇa above all spiritual planets is called Kṛṣṇaloka or Goloka Vṛndāvana, and the perfected living being, by developing seventy-eight percent of the above attributes in fullness, can enter the planet of Kṛṣṇaloka after leaving the present material body."**