Explaining the workings of Maha-Visnu's mysterious material creation and the original position (home) of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in Goloka-Vrindavana or Vaikuntha.

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 28 Text 53 and Canto 4 Chapter 28 Text 55, reveals that the jiva-soul's original home is with Krsna in Goloka-Vrindavana.

We are not suppose to be in this material creation, or trying to extinguish one's individual identity after becoming frustrated with material existence, by attempting to merge into the inactive dormant impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman that is spiritual suicide to a Vaiṣṇava.

In Srimad Bhagavatam it is explained Krsna directly asks the jiva-soul now trapped in the material creation- 

"Do you remember Me?  You were previously my dear friend before you came to this material world"

The point made here is how can you remember what you never knew? 

This clearly means we all were originally with Krsna in His patimes and we all came from Goloka Vrindavana or Vaikuntha and chose to foolishly enter the material creation.

Also the jiva-souls did not originate from a dormant inactive condition like the inactive impersonal Brahmajyoti or tatastha-sakti, both already fallen conditions.

Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha). That is called spiritual elevation." (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York, Dec 28, 1966)

Tatastha-sakti is also another name for the "marginal living entities" among many names that each describe a particular condition the jiva-souls are conditioned in, and tatastha-sakti is one of those names meaning "the conditioned living entity"

The mysterious workings of Maha-Visnu's material creation is inconceivable to none devotees who can never understand the secrets of the universe through speculation and sense perception.

For example, all material bodily vessels the jiva-souls are given so they can enter the material creation, originate from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) who choose to the enter the material creation, must first go to Maha-Visnu to obtain a suitable material bodily vessel from what Maha-Visnu's dreams that is in sync with what the visiting (fallen) jiva-souls have desired or deserved.

All material bodies are provided to the jiva-souls who reject Krsna in Goloka-Vrndavana and Visnu in Vaikuntha by Maha-Visnu.

Maha-Visnu also provides all material facilities to the jiva-souls. 

Also no jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from Maha-Visnu, they only move into His domain and then from there, enters His dreams to "hire" a material bodily pathway according to their desires on their journey in the temporary material creation.

There are unlimited material bodily vessels available to the jiva-souls in the material creation originating from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

And the jiva-souls, just like Krsna, were never created therefore they have no origin.

Krsna and the jiva-souls, like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays, cannot exist without each other, therefore Krsna and the jiva-souls have always existed and were never created.

The real home of the jiva-souls is not the material creation of Maha-Visnu or the dormant (inactive) aspect of the Brahmajyoti, but is always the Vaikuntha planets of Lord Visnu (Vaikuntha) or Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavana.

So the real home of the jiva-souls is not the temporary decaying mundane material creation, or being merged inactively (dormant) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti as Mayavadis seek.

As said above, entering the impersonal brahman or Brahmajyoti is considered spiritual suicide to a Vaisnava because one is foolishly trying to forcibly end their individual existence and personality.

Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu as the Brahma-Samhita describes- 

"This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 Text 83)

Srila Prabhupada – "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB Canto 4.29.2b)

Srila Prabhupada – "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972 lecture on SB)

Srila Prabhupada – "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means working for future happiness through fruitive activities, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB Canto 4.29.2b)

One's relationship with Krsna is never impersonal, nor did the jiva-soul's originate from some nonsense impersonal beginning (impersonal Brahmajyoti) that is already a fallen condition.

The word tatastha-sakti refers to the jiva-souls in their fallen conditioned state in both the material creation, and when dormant in the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

The marginal potency (jiva-souls) are a collective of eternal individual living entities without any beginning or end, who are spread throughout the entire Spiritual Sky (both spiritual worlds and material worlds) 

Those jiva-souls who have made the choice to enter the temporary decomposing material creation, can later, due to the frustration of material life, enter an inactive dormant state within the Brahmajyoti (the impersonal aspect of Brahman)

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are known in both the material creation and the impersonal Brahmajyoti as tatastha sakti but not in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana Prabhupada explains here.

Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual worlds are the Personal (Vaikuntha) characteristics." (New York, Dec 28, 1966)

Revatīnandana - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva-souls there are also fallen souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition." (Letter to: Revatinandana, LA 13 June, 1970 and Lecture Aug 1971 London)

In the jiva-souls original state, they have the same bodily features like Krsna, sat-cit-ananda-vigraha (eternity, knowledge, bliss and form.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities is a two arm form like Krsna's Form.

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB 6.1.1-4 - Melb, May 20, 1975)

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are a collective of an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who are eternal, meaning they have always existed but, as said above, they are only called tatastha-sakti while conditioned in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti.

As said above, the jiva-souls were never created or born from any origin (starting point) because there is no origin of the jiva-souls, they have always existed without beginning or end as BG Ch 2 text 20 reveals (correct 1983 edition of Bhagavad Gita As It Is- 

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20)

Having free will is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities that is always part and parcel within their eternal character and personality in the spiritual worlds.

This means the jiva-souls can even choose to leave the Vaikuntha Planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God) if they want, this is also what free will allows and if it didn't, then they have no free will.

The choice to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows love to be a two-way street, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose to do so.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - ''As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice, Yes, Kṛṣṇa says, yes, you can go, otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (Morning Walk May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (LA, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he'd likes he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We CAN misuse that." (Conversation, Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976) 

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence, your free will. That is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy, you love me, you love me, you love me." Is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. You love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes).***.