"Generated" means the individual jiva-souls belong to a platform or category of eternal living entities called the "marginal living entities."

The eternal individual jiva-souls being generated from the marginal plane, does not mean they were created, or originated from some beginning point in the spiritual sky.

This is because the individual jiva-souls were never created, and have no origin. 

"Generated" therefore means the individual jiva-souls belong to a category of eternal individual personalities who are beginningless and endless called the marginal living entities (eternal individual jiva-souls)

The individual jiva-souls were never created, nor literally "generated" from any origin, because they have always existed, and will continue to exist as individual spiritual bodily "persons" eternally.

"Generated" means the individual jiva-souls belong to a platform or category of eternal living entities called the "marginal living entities." 

The individual jiva-souls are eternal persons as a spiritual bodily form whose natural eternal home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana that take up 75% of the Spiritual Sky, but are now presently covered by a temporary material bodily vessel within the temporary material world that takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky.

Falling to the material world of repeated birth and death means being possibly covered by the 8 million 400 species of material bodily forms in the material world.  

The individual jiva-souls are known as the marginal living entities, or marginal plane, a category of eternal individual jiva-souls who are spiritual personalities as a bodily form for infinity.

Generated clearly means the eternal individual jiva-souls come from an eternal category of living entities known as the marginal energy or plane.

Furthermore, the individual jiva-souls did not originate from the impersonal brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti, the Body of Maha-Visnu or even Kṛṣṇa. They never came into being or were generated from a beginning because the individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless and were never created as Bhagavad Gita As It Is chapter two explains, they have always existed over infinity.

The individual jiva-souls never originated or were generated from tatastha-sakti as some foolishly claim because again, there is no origin for the individual jiva-souls who like Krsna and Viṣṇu, eternally exist. 

In other words, just like Krsna has always existed, so have the individual jiva-souls.

This means the individual jiva-souls never originated or were generated from the impersonal (inactive) brahmajyoti, the Body of Maha-Visnu, or the fallen condition known as tatastha-sakti, all three are fallen conditions for the individual jiva-souls, whose real eternal natural home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual world.  

Srila Prabhupada - "So this temporary material world is the taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the permanent (personal) characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics and enter the permanent (personal)  characteristics. That is called spiritual elevation." (Lecture CC, Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York City, Dec 28, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā to the material world, it is called taṭastha śakti." (Lecture BG, Ch 7 Text 4-5 Bombay, March 30, 1971)

Maya or the temporary material energy does not exist in the spiritual world however, free will eternally exists there and allows the individual jiva-souls to make their own decisions of voluntary offerings and contributions, and even accept or reject Krsna if they choose. 

Srimad Bhagavatam explains the fall down of the marginal living entity (jiva-souls) from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana to the material world, in the 4th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, Chapter 28 text 53, where the Supreme Lord is disguised as a brahmana.

The brāhmaṇa said - "My dear friend, even though you cannot immediately recognize Me, can't you remember that in the past you had a very intimate friend? Unfortunately, you gave up My company and accepted a position as enjoyer of this material world." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 28 text 53)

The inactive brahman effulgence (impersonal brahmajyoti or void) worshipped by impersonalists, mundane religionists, Buddhists and mayavadis, are "fallen conditions" the individual jiva-souls fall down too, but can never remain in that "fallen condition" of inactivity eternally. 

Eventually, they are forced to leave that dormant condition because the nature of the individual jiva-souls are to be always "active" in the service of Krsna and not remain inactive. 

So, eventually the fallen individual jiva-souls leave the impersonal brahmajyoti or void and again take birth in the material world.

Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana dasa - "That means all jīva-souls there in the impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti) are also fallen souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness.'' (Letter to Revatinandana, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

We are all old individual jiva-souls because we have always existed without any beginning point, nor will we ever cease to be as confirmed in Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter two teaches.

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS, as a spiritual bodily form, who can never be destroyed, cut into pieces, terminated or extinguished because the individual jiva-souls are indestructible.

This means there was no beginning to the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) existence, nor will there be an end or no new individual jiva-souls ever being created because they have always existed as explained here-

Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

The eternal individual jiva-souls can even choose, due to free will, to stay embodied in the temporary decaying material universe's cycles of birth and death, and cycles of material annihilation and creations for an almost infinity, but ultimately it is all temporary.

So the conclusion is, there is no origin to Krsna's individual marginal living energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed, which is eternity.

We must understand from Srila Prabhupada the real meaning of surrender, voluntary devotional service, loving exchanges, free will and the need to always remember Krsna and never forget.

In the spiritual world's of Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets, surrender to Krsna, through loving voluntary devotional service, is never a "one-way or one-sided" impersonal relationship that denies individual unique contributions and offerings from the devotees in a two-way exchange of loving reciprocation. 

Real love or service to Radha and Krsna in the spiritual world is always voluntary, based on wonderful loving reciprocal exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees.

Voluntary service in the Kingdom of God (Krsna) is only genuinely expressed correctly in a "two-way" exchange of loving emotions based on devotional creative actions and thoughts.

Krsna always sanction's "free will" in the spiritual world because He allows the individual jiva-souls to have their own unique independent voluntary skills of self expression, and choice of personal offerings they present to Krsna.

Without free will, the individual jiva-souls can never participate in voluntarily expressing their unique love for Kṛṣṇa, that enrich, expand and add unlimited varigatedness to the relationship.

The individual jiva-soul's (marginal living entities) relationship with Krsna, is naturally a "two-way" personal partnership sharing loving exchanges based on reciprocation, voluntary cooperation, and pleasing Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.  

Krsna gives the individual jiva-souls "free will" for the purpose to allow "love to exist" which means of allowing a "two-way" to participation by having loving exchanges. 

Such loving exchanges can never exist with only "one" making all the decisions, not even if it is Krsna, there must be always be two-way exchange with God (Krsna) otherwise "love" can never exist!

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means a relationship between "two-persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Love can only exist in a "two-way" exchange of intimate expressions. Only a "two-sided" cooperation expands one's unique individual voluntary contributions presented to Krsna as personal offerings.

On the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, personal expressions of loving exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees can only be expressed and acted upon by having free will. 

Such freedom of expression is always encouraged by Krsna in His relationship with His devotees (the individual jiva-souls that add flavour, variety and mystery to their association.

This means the Kingdom of God (Krsna's abode) is not a "one-sided" dominating impersonal stagnant domain devoid of personal unique offerings that will only deny personal contributions (offerings) to God (Krsna), meant to expand, enrich and forever flavour the relationship with Kṛṣṇa with unlimited variety.

As said above, love or service is not a "one-sided" affiliate of total supremacy or pre-eminence, it is rather an act of voluntary participation and personal unique contributions, only then can real love exist.

So we must understand that genuine loving relations and service are based on voluntary reciprocal exchanges and contributions between two and not just one!

Loveless Impersonalism is excluding the voluntary act of self expression and denying a two-way cooperative relationship with God (Krsna). 

The individual jiva-souĺs have their choices too, even if that choice means rejecting Krsna. 

Free will only has meaning when the individual jiva-souls have a choice to express themselves in a "two-sided" voluntary way with, or without Krsna. This means the individual jiva-souls can reject Krsna if they choose, which in a sense proves that "free will" does truly exist.

Only then can genuine free will exist.

In other words, loving reciprocation is only possible in a "two-way" exchange between two individuals with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows of service.

The word "reciprocation" only has meaning when there are two involved in a cooperative relationship, reciprocation has no meaning with just one.

Impersonalism is understood in this way, the puppeter has total control over his puppets by manipulating the strings that control their every actions, they only act accordingly to what the puppeter does with his strings, the puppets have no thoughts of their own or or have any sense of an individual existence.

Similarly, the individual jiva-souls are NOT Krsna's mindless emotionless puppets or drones like that. 

Those who think surrendering to Krsna in the impersonal way by become His mindless puppet by only doing what He demands, are dangerous mayavadis who are foolishly attempting to commit spiritual suicide.

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is "oneness," so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

The Kingdom of Kṛṣṇa is nothing like that, Kṛṣṇa only wants those devotees who think for themselves, and who voluntary choose to serve in their way to please Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will." (Philosophy Discussions, Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Having "free will" (freedom of thoughts and actions) is the eternal constitutional make up of every "marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul)," and is the foundation that begins all the jiva-soul's interactions with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good. That is not love, that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and don't offer you anything in return, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then there is love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is also form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri dasa – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – [describing material form first]: "Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri dasa - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he become flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

The full potential and unique expression of the individual jiva-soul, is eternally a spiritual bodily form always active in Krsna's pastimes.

And no two individual jiva-souls (devotees) are the same, each have their unique characteristics 

The individual jiva-soul is not some impersonal formless spark dormant or inactive in Krsna's Bodily effulgence (the impersonal aspect of the brahmajyoti) as its full potential 

Srila Prabhupada – “The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul.” (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is spiritual bodily form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Krsna allows the eternal individual jiva-souls (devotees) in the spiritual world to continually re-invent themselves by voluntarily serving in a capacity they choose by making their own unique contributions and offerings.

This allows diversity and an unlimited range of variegatedness in the devotee's personal service to Krsna that is forever expanding their progressive independent contributions in the Kingdom of God (Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana) infinitely expanding their voluntary participation, personal contributions and inspiration in an unlimited variety of unique ways serving and associating with Krsna in His never ending expanding blissful pastimes (lilas)

Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls (His devotees) to have their "free will" because He wants to see unique voluntary independent self expressions of voluntary love towards Him from His devotee's personal choices with their own unique thoughtful contributions on their own.

Krsna wants His devotees to voluntarily be personally creative in their independent offerings, friendship and service to Him.

In other words, Kṛṣṇa wants a "two-sided" open reciprocal cooperative contributing relationship of loving exchanges with His intimate devotees, where they can voluntarily express themselves as they choose, in their own unique way, as separate independent individuals from Krsna, yet simultaneously fully dependent on Him due to being His parts and parcels.

This means the devotees of Krsna should never surrender to a mindless puppetry “one-sided" dominating relationship, where the devotee is ordered what to think, and how to serve without being encouraged to think for themselves with their own unique personal voluntary contributions. 

Such a nonsense “one-sided” relationship is a loveless dictatorship and impersonalism that denies individual self expression!

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling, then there is love, not achieved by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

As said above, real love (service) is voluntary and can never exist on a “one-way" path because love can only exists when "two" are involved in voluntary reciprocal contributing loving exchanges.

Krsna allows free will (voluntary self-expression) so His devotees can experience their own unique individuality and make their own unique offerings (contributions) to Him in a way that forever expands loving exchanges and reciprocation in a "two-way" transition between Kṛṣṇa and the devotee which is never a "one-sided" non-contributing loveless dictatorship.

In this way, "free will" only eternally exists for Krsna's devotees because Krsna wants a "two-way" contributing open relationship with His devotees, therefore Krsna always encourages self expression and unique personal contributions from His dear devotees that make the relationship a "two-sided" exchange of loving emotions.

The relationship with Krsna must be this way because love can never be experienced with just one, there must two in an open "two-sided" reciprocal relationship of mutual returns and voluntary cooperation.=.

The unique relationship between Krsna and His devotees is always a "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation, voluntary service and a loving cooperation that can never be achieved in a "one-sided" autocracy.

Krsna allows the eternal individual jiva-souls (devotees) in the spiritual world to continually re-invent themselves by voluntarily serving in a capacity they choose by making their own unique contributions and offerings.

This allows diversity and an unlimited range of variegatedness in the devotee's personal service to Krsna that is forever expanding their progressive independent contributions in the Kingdom of God (Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana) infinitely expanding their voluntary participation, personal contributions and inspiration in an unlimited variety of unique ways serving and associating with Krsna in His never ending expanding blissful pastimes (lilas)

Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls (His devotees) to have their "free will" because He wants to see unique voluntary independent self expressions of voluntary love towards Him from His devotee's personal choices with their own unique thoughtful contributions on their own.

Krsna wants His devotees to voluntarily be personally creative in their independent offerings, friendship and service to Him.

In other words, Kṛṣṇa wants a "two-sided" open reciprocal cooperative contributing relationship of loving exchanges with His intimate devotees, where they can voluntarily express themselves as they choose, in their own unique way, as separate independent individuals from Krsna, yet simultaneously fully dependent on Him due to being His parts and parcels.

This means the devotees of Krsna should never surrender to a mindless puppetry “one-sided" dominating relationship, where the devotee is ordered what to think, and how to serve without being encouraged to think for themselves with their own unique personal voluntary contributions. 

Such a nonsense “one-sided” relationship is a loveless dictatorship and impersonalism that denies individual self expression!

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling, then there is love, not achieved by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

As said above, real love (service) is voluntary and can never exist on a “one-way" path because love can only exists when "two" are involved in voluntary reciprocal contributing loving exchanges.

Krsna allows free will (voluntary self-expression) so His devotees can experience their own unique individuality and make their own unique offerings (contributions) to Him in a way that forever expands loving exchanges and reciprocation in a "two-way" transition between Kṛṣṇa and the devotee which is never a "one-sided" non-contributing loveless dictatorship.

In this way, "free will" only eternally exists for Krsna's devotees because Krsna wants a "two-way" contributing open relationship with His devotees, therefore Krsna always encourages self expression and unique personal contributions from His dear devotees that make the relationship a "two-sided" exchange of loving emotions.

The relationship with Krsna must be this way because love can never be experienced with just one, there must two in an open "two-sided" reciprocal relationship of mutual returns, cooperation and respect.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world service there is always voluntary for Krsna's devotees. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there, if I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily, and can change from flower to human body if the devotee desires, that is spiritual life, it is all voluntary, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Krsna gave His devotees their freedom (free-will) so they can voluntarily choose to serve Kṛṣṇa in unlimited creative ways, or even reject Him if they choose, this will only prove Krsna has allowed free will.

Ultimately this is all Krsna's creation and how He manages it is entirely up to Him as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains.

However, the devotees having their freedom of self expression must be this way because Krsna knows if He never gave His devotees (the individual jīva-souls) their independence (free will), then genuine loving exchanges, affection and reciprocation in a open two-way exchange, could never exist, making Krsna no different from a cold puppet master who manipulates and controls everything his puppets do and think.

Such a mindless dictatorial existence without free will (unique self expression of voluntary offerings to Krsna) is dangerous impersonalism.

Therefore, Krsna's devotees (individual jiva-souls) are eternal independent thinking thoughtful spiritual living PERSONS, as an eternal spiritual bodily form like Krsna's Bodily Form, who are indestructible and can never be destroyed, terminated, cut into pieces or extinguished as Bhagavad Gita As It Is chapter two explains.

On the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana, personal voluntary expressions of loving exchanges expressed through free will, are always encouraged by Krsna in His eternal relationship with His devotees that adds flavour, variety and mystery to the association and intimate relationship.

This means the Kingdom of God is not a "one-sided" dominating impersonal domain devoid of free will (voluntary service and personal contributions)

Such a "one-sided" dictatorial relationship does not allow personal contributions or offerings to God (Krsna) that are only found in a "two-way" relationship that expands, enriches and flavours the devotees personal voluntary service to Krsna.

In an impersonal "one-sided" relationship, where a devotee is always told what to do, how to think and how to act, only denies the devotee's their individual God given ability of self expression that provides unique contributions and voluntary loving exchanges.

As said above, love or service is never a "one-sided" affiliate of total supremacy or pre-eminence in the spiritual world because for love to flourish and expand, there must be two involved expressing themselves thoughtful with voluntry character building loving contributions.

Genuine loving relationships between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees are always based on voluntary reciprocal exchanges and personal contributions between two. 

Love can never be experienced by just one.

The devotees (individual jiva-souĺs) have their choices on how they want to serve and please Krsna too, or they can even choose to reject Krsna if they want, this is the consequence of having free will.

Loving reciprocation is only possible on a "two-way" street between two, with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.

The word "reciprocation" only has meaning when there are two involved, not one.

The individual jiva-souĺs (devotees) have their choices too, even if that sometimes means rejecting Krsna and doing their own thing in the temporary material world.

The individual devotees in their full spiritual potential on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever positively re-inventing themselves by always choosing how to continuously increase their variety of devotional voluntary service to Krsna or Visnu.

This is achieved by forever positively discovering a variety of ways to expand their individual expressions of personal offerings and affection to Krsna in their perpetual unique relationship with Him.

Srila Prabhupada – “The impersonalist philosophy is oneness so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant.” (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – “Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation.” (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

The relationship with Krsna in the spiritual world (The Kingdom of God) is never a “one-way” forced unproductive affinity that denies personal contributions which is impersonalism.

The individual devotee's relationship with Krsna is always based on "free will," this allows a variety of unique creative voluntary offerings of service to Krsna, only then can genuine loving exchanges exist.

Śrīla Prabhupāda – “Love means "two-persons," I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, then these things must be there.” (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Personal voluntarily self chosen contributions offered by Krsna's devotees, are different from Krsna's shower of loving affection to His devotees, putting the relationship on a "two-way" street of loving exchanges which means the individual jiva-souls  have their own unique independent thinking and chosen actions.

The relationship between Krsna and His devotees are eternally a "two-way" mystery of unique exchanges that only further enriches, intensifies and expands loving expressions and affection between the devotees and Krsna.

Such personal unique contributions from the individual devotee's independent voluntary expressions, coming from their independent execution of free will, forever expands their personal ability to make voluntary offerings to Krsna in the spiritual world that forever increase their loving emotions for Krsna in a healthy "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation.

The important lesson learnt after 55 years in ISKCON.

In all my years in ISKCON my greatest lesson is-

"Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth."

So be very careful, do not accept everything blindly just because they are a Temple President, GBC, Sannyasi and especially a Guru. 

Research everything and realize a Guru is suppose to be a pure representative of Kṛṣṇa but never claim to be all knowing like Kṛṣṇa.

The individual jiva-souls (including pure devotees of Kṛṣṇa) do not know everything like Krsna does as Prabhupada explains here-

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also an individual person as you are individual person, I am individual person, but the difference between God and you and me is this, that you know your business, I know my business, but God knows everyone's business. That is the difference." (Lecture Melb, Australia April 3, 1972) 

So how do we know who is a bona fide spiritual master? For the serious spiritual candidate, that’s a very important question.

When an interviewer asked Srila Prabhupada that question, he replied- 

Srila Prabhupada - "Just like when you go to the market to purchase something, you test it whether it is genuine or not. Similarly, you have to test who is a genuine Guru and not just follow sentimentally and blindly." (Press Conference, Aug 5, 1971, London)

Srila Prabhupada - "A guru must prove his position not only by wearing a sacred thread but by advancing knowledge in spiritual life." (SB, Canto 5 Ch 10 text 16, Purport) 

Srila Prabhupada - "A guru must be a direct representative of Kṛṣṇa who distributes the instructions of Kṛṣṇa without any change." (SB, Canto 5 Ch 17 text 11, Purport)^

Just like Krsna's eternal existence is an individual spiritual Bodily form similarly, the individual jiva-souls are also an eternal spiritual bodily form Srila Prabhupāda explains.

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are beginningless and endless as a spiritual bodily form who were never created, not even by Krsna. 

In other words, just like Krsna's eternal existence is an individual spiritual Bodily form, the individual jiva-souls also as a spiritual bodily form, have existed for all eternity Srila Prabhupāda explains-

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

However, there is a difference between Kṛṣṇa the Supreme lndividual Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, and the individual jīva-souls.

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also an individual person as you are individual person, I am individual person, but the difference between God and you and me is this, that you know your business, I know my business, but God knows everyone's business. That is the difference." (Lecture Melb, Australia April 3, 1972)  

Only the temporary material bodily container or vessel the eternal individual jiva-soul is in, is subject to constant maintenance, decay and ultimate annihilation, while the individual jiva-soul is unaffected by those changes.

The individual jiva-soul then moves on to occupy a new temporary material bodily container or vessel. The human form of life in the material world is very, very rare to obtain, it is not guaranteed in the jiva-soul's next birth because the human species is only one form of life out of 8 million 400 thousand species of life.

Also, because the individual jiva-souls have no origin and were never created, it is important to understand the individual jiva-souls do not originate from any already fallen condition like tatastha-sakti, or from the dormant (inactive) impersonal brahmajyoti, or from the Body of Maha-Visnu. 

The individual jīva-soul's eternal home of origin and permanence is the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

Also being “generated” from the marginal plane does not mean the individual jiva-souls “originated” from a point of origin, or were created in the Spiritual Sky and supposedly began their existence, no, such nonsense is rejected here because the individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless which means they were never created, not even by Krsna and are therefore just as ageless as Krsna.

The individual jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa have always existed, and both were never created. This means both have no origin or beginning point to their existence because they have existed for infinity as Bhagavad Gita As It Is confirms.

Tatastha-sakti is an already fallen conditioned state of the individual jiva-soul they fall too after leaving the spiritual world (Goloka-Vrindavana or the Vaikuntha planets).

It is the non-Krsna conscious condition of the fallen individual jiva-souls when they are outside the spiritual world and instead existing in both the material existence, and when inactive (dormant) impersonal brahmajyoti where the individual jiva-soul artificially appears as an individual inactive living (anti-matter) spark in the impersonal brahmajyoti.  

The word tatastha-sakti refers to the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) only in their "fallen conditional state" in both the material creation and when dormant in the (impersonal) brahmajyoti.

Srila Prabhupada - "So this temporary material world is the taṭastha or the fallen materially conditioned characteristics, and the spiritual world is the permanent non-fallen characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha-sakti (fallen materially conditioned state) and enter the permanent spiritual non-fallen characteristics. That is called spiritual elevation." (Lecture CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York City, Dec 28, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called taṭastha śakti."(Lecture BG, Ch 7 Text 4-5 Bombay, March 30, 1971)

Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana dasa - "That means all jīva-souls there in the impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti) are also fallen souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness.'' (Letter to Revatinandana dasa, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

The full potential and eternal original feature (bodily form) of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body. The individual jiva-souls were never created, they are beginningless and endless like Krsna is.

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also human form, "man is made after the shape of God," so Kṛṣṇa is also like human form, two hands, two legs." The human form is also the full manifestation of the individual jiva-soul." (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body, if the jiva-soul is non-material, what is the form of all jiva-souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form."(Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

As said above, the original spiritual feature (form) of the marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) is like Krsna's Bodily form, two arms, two legs. The individual jiva-souls do not therefore originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti or the Body of Maha-Visnu as an impersonal spark as some incorrectly and foolishly believe.

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form, man is made after the shape of God, I think that is in the Bible also, is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri dasa– "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – [describing material form first] “Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri dasa - "Are they covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily, and can change from flower to human body if one desires. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Krsna allows the eternal individual jiva-souls (devotees) in the spiritual world to continually re-invent themselves with their own voluntary unique contributions, this allows diversity, meaning an unlimited range of variegatedness in one's personal service to Krsna that is forever expanding their progressive independent contributions, infinitely expanding their voluntary participation, personal contributions and inspiration in an unlimited variety of unique ways serving Krsna in His never ending expanding blissful pastimes (lilas)

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling, then there is love. It never achieved by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that - ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Lecture, Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Without free will, one would never have the vision to intelligently contribute in their relationship with Kṛṣṇa, or increase and expand one's awareness of who they are as a contributing independent individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul). 

Having "free will" therefore is the eternal constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul), and the foundation for all individual jiva-soul's selfless contributions to Krsna.

Loving devotional service is always based on a "two-way" voluntary exchange of personal feelings manifesting as loving acts of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions (offerings) of devotional service to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will.

On the other hand, actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering mood that do not encourage personal voluntary contributions, is dangerous impersonalism.

Personalism is only possible in a "two-way" exchange of feelings and emotions that expands, enriches and multiplies loving affection, sentiment and exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.

Devotee - "If the individual jiva-souls are non-material, what is the form and composition of the jiva-souls?

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is eternal spiritual form that is not material, just like this body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. If you have got... You have got leg; therefore your pant has got leg. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul has got form, and it has developed into hands, legs, heads, everything. It is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico , Feb 14, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "This material body we are in is existing on the spiritual body. Just like your shirt. The shirt is existing on your actual hand. The shirt has got a hand because you have got hand. So matter (material energy) is impersonal, but because the superior prakṛti, jīva-soul, he is person, therefore the matter appears like a person. Because I have got hands and legs, therefore this cloth has got hands and legs. Otherwise the cloth has no hands and legs; it is impersonal. In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, vāsāṁsi jīrṇāni. This body is just like dress. Just like your coat has got hand, your pant has got leg, but either the pant or coat has no leg, no hand. So, because you have got leg and hand, the coat has got leg and hand. Everyone can understand this. It is very easy. So, the original (and eternally), the individual jiva-souls have form. Therefore the cloth has been cut into form. It is very easy to understand. Otherwise how you get the form? And in this form the spirit soul is trying to enjoy this material world. But it is not puruṣa. It cannot enjoy. That is false. That is illusion." (Lecture SB, Canto 3 Ch 26 Text 3, Bombay, Dec 15, 1974)

Srila Prabhupāda - Matter (material energy) has no form but the jiva-soul has got form. Though matter is covering the actual form of the jiva-soul, the matter then appears to have form. Just like the original cloth has no form, but when the tailor cuts the cloth according to the body of the person, then the shirt and coat takes a form. The matter (material energy) itself has no form. When you take clay, it has no form, but if you make it like a doll, like a man or woman, then it has a form. When you change the clay, and you manufacture a fort, then the fort has form. So, form and formlessness is of the matter, but in the spiritual world everything has got form. The jiva-soul has got form. God has got form. This is the truth. In the material world any form-man or beast or anyone—in the outward, external covering is matter (temporary material energy), but within the matter there is the soul. The soul has form and God has form. That is real form. And the material form is simply shirting and coating over the spiritual body. The form of the body takes place on account of the form of the spirit. This is very nice example. The cloth has no form, but when it is cut according to the form of the gentleman, it takes a form. Similarly, matter has no form. When it is coated on the spiritual form of the soul, it takes the form. This is very easy to understand." (Discussion with Thomas Aquinas on philosophy)

Srila Prabhupāda - "The living entity has got hands, legs, everything, spiritual. Just like my, I have got my body, and this body's covered by this shirt, and because I have got this hand, the shirt has got hand, otherwise where from this hand comes Unless the spirit soul has got hands and legs, how we have got these material hands and legs? Therefore the conclusion is that the individual jiva-souls is eternal form that is beginningless and endless. Kṛṣṇa is eternal form also, sac cit ānanda vigraha (Bs. 5.1) that means eternity, all knowledge, bliss and form, similarly the individual jiva-souls, being part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa, also have eternal form, so because we have information from Bhagavad-gītā, that this body, material body is like a dress only, it is not who we are. Vāsāṁsi jīrṇāny yathā vihāya. As we give up old dress, garment, similarly, when this body becomes useless, we give up this body and accept another new body. Navāni ghṛṇāti." (The Nectar of Devotion, Vrndavana, Oct 26, 1972)

As said above, the word tatastha-sakti refers to the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in their fallen conditioned state in both the material creation, and when dormant in the impersonal brahmajyoti. It is incorrect to believe the jiva-souls originate from tatastha-sakti (an already conditioned fallen state outside the world) Srila Prabhupada has explained above. The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) sometimes fall down to the temporary material world from the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana which are their original homes.

And then after being frustrated in a material body trapped in the cycle of birth and death in the material world, they attempt to find an escape by artificially entering the impersonal (inactive or dormant) Brahmajyoti. The fact is, the individual jiva-souls do not originate from the Impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti), the Body of Maha-Visnu or tatastha-sakti (all fallen conditioned designation outside the spiritual world) as some schools of philosophy foolishly believe.

All individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal (beginningless and endless) and mostly choose to come to the material world from the perpetual Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana in the spiritual world.

Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence (impersonal Brahmajyoti) are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness [Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana]." (Letter to Revatinandana dasa, LA 13 June, 1970)

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, July 9, 1970)

All individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless therefore never created as explained in Chapter two of Bhagavad Gita- 

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 Text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed."(BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament."  (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?"(BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

First of all, the individual jiva-soul being "marginal" means having the choice to be influenced by either the spiritual energy (the individual jiva-souls nature position and full potential in the spiritual world) or by the material energy (unnatural conditioned state) As said above, the meaning of "marginal" means the individual jiva-souls can choose to be influenced by either the spiritual energy (their natural constitution position), or the material energy, based on their free will.

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy. Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

There is no origin to the individual jiva-souls who are eternal independent parts and parcel of Krsna and just as old as Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada – "The individual jiva-souls are Krsna's marginal energy. Marginal energy means we can live either in this external energy or in the internal energy, in between. So at the present moment we are living in the external energy. But this external energy is also Kṛṣṇa's energies, God's energy. It is not different from Him. But the external energy means we are captivated by the external energy. But the external energy is not permanent. The internal energy is permanent. The spiritual world is permanent, and the jiva-souls are also permanent as Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 20 (1983 edition) reveals." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 Text 4 Melb, Australia April 23, 1976)

The eternal individual jiva-souls did not begin their existence by first entering the material world from the impersonal brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti or from the Body of Maha-Visnu, and have never been to the spiritual world, no, this impersonal nonsense implies the individual jiva-souls have an origin outside the spiritual world when in fact they are eternal just like Krsna, and also from the spiritual world which is the individual jiva-soul’s eternal home that is beginningless and endless, meaning they were never created.

Only ignorant fools with a poor fund of knowledge claim the individual jiva-souls originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti and then enter the material world. The fact is, all individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originally came from either the Vaikuntha planets, or Goloka-Vrindavana where they have existed eternally before entering the mundane temporary material world Prabhupada teaches. 

Srila Prabhupada – "Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall, your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime, so there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 25 April 1970)

There are no new individual jiva-souls being created as Bhagavad Gita As It is teaches, the individual jiva-souls are eternal meaning there is no beginning or end to their existence. 

As said above, the individual jiva-souls did not originate or were generated from any beginning point to their existence called tatastha-sakti.

Srila Prabhupada - "We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago." (Lecture BG, Aug 6, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha." (Letter to Jagadisa das, 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is spiritual form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

As said above, the original feature of the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is like Krsna's Bodily form, they do not originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti or the Body of Maha-Visnu as some foolishly believe.

Devotee - "If the individual jiva-soul is non-material, then what is its the form?

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. If you have got... You have got leg; therefore your pant has got leg. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul has got form, and it has developed into hands, legs, heads, everything. It is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico , Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you state that spirit soul has form."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Devotee - "Otherwise, how is the material body grown to accommodate the spirit soul? Just like a shirt has no form, but when it's put on the body, it takes the shapes of the body. Does that mean that the spirit soul has the shape of the body that is accommodating it?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, you have got body, shape." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 16 Text 24, Hawaii, Jan 20, 1974)

Srila Prabhupāda - "This material body we are in is existing on the spiritual body. Just like your shirt. The shirt is existing on your actual hand. The shirt has got a hand because you have got hand. So matter is impersonal. But because the superior prakṛti, jīva, he is person, therefore the matter appears like a person. Because I have got hands and legs, therefore this cloth has got hands and legs. Otherwise the cloth has no hands and legs; it is impersonal." (Lecture SB, Canto 3 Ch 26 Text 3, Bombay, Dec 15, 1974)

As said above, the meaning of "marginal" means the individual jiva-souls can choose to be influenced by either the spiritual energy (their natural constitution), or the temporary decaying material energy, based on their free will.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense, everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna, he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "Your question about one's relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The jiva-souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime, so there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, April 25, 1970)

Only the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) can express themselves in separate way from Krsna which means they have free will. This is because all the other Visnu-tattva (also God) Personalities are Krsna just playing unlimited roles in other ways.

Mother Yasoda is not a jiva-soul, she is a direct expansion of Krsna (Visnu-tattva). In other words, just like Krsna is also Balarāma, and Krsna is also Radharani, Krsna can manifest Himself in different moods as different Visnu-tattva Personalities.

Srila Prabhupada - "Nanda and mother Yasoda are the eternal father & mother of Krsna. This means that whenever Krsna descends, Nanda and Yasoda, as well as Vasudeva and Devaki, also descend as the Lord's father and mother. Their personalities are expansions of Krsna's personal body." (SB, Canto 10 Ch 8 text 48)

As long as aspiring devotees associate with foolish impersonalism, imperialism and nonsense devotees, sannyasis and gurus, they will never understand the true facts about the fallen condition tatastha-sakti, or the spiritual eternal nature and position of the individual jiva-souls, or Krsna's direct unlimited expansions like Visnu/Narayana, Balarama, Maha-Visnu, Ramachandra, Narsingadeva etc.^.

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal PERSONS as a spiritual bodily form (Vigraha) like Krsnas Bodily Form whose perpetual ever fresh eternally youthful home is the spiritual world (the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana)

Krsna (God) is also simultaneously an individual PERSON as a spiritual bodily Form, and an all-pervading consciousness who is even in the atom.

Furthermore, Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

It must be emphasised that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme individual PERSON who is always a spiritual youthful bodily Form eternally, who never leaves His Vrindavana Home.

All activities outside of Vrndavana in the spiritual world are performed by His Visnu-tattva expansions who play the part of Kṛṣṇa or Visnu when He enters the material world or the Vaikuntha planets in the spiritual world. 

The spiritual Bodily rays of Kṛṣṇa are the individual jiva-souls in their fallen conditioned state outside of the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

Those Bodily rays of Kṛṣṇa are known as the brahmajyoti or brahman. Within the brahmajyoti is where the spiritual worlds, material worlds and impersonal (dormant) brahmajyoti exist.

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana exists in the "eternal presence" of space/time meaning past and future do not exist because of the eternal presence of Kṛṣṇa and Visnu. 

The temporary material worlds on the other hand, exist in multiple time zones of space and material time (past, present and future), and the impersonal brahmajyoti is always are place where the individual jiva-souls are inactive or dormant where their bodily form appears as bodiless "spark" inactive and being almost dead.

The impersonal brahmajyoti is made up of an unlimited number of "individual" jiva-souls who are in their "fallen condition" outside the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana and are "artificially appearing" as a dormant (inactive) "spark." 

Outside the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana in side the  brahmajyoti is also the temporary material worlds (Brahmandas) where repeated birth and death eternally take place.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the effulgent rays of the spiritual sky there are innumerable planets floating. The brahmajyoti emanates from the supreme abode, Kṛṣṇaloka, and the ānanda-maya, cin-maya planets, which are not material, float in those rays. 

The Lord says, na tad bhāsayate sūryo na śaśāṅko na pāvakaḥ/yad gatvā na nivartante tad dhāma paramaṁ mama (BG 15.6) One who can approach that spiritual sky (spiritual world) is not required to descend again to the material sky. 

In the material sky (world), even if we approach the highest planet (Brahmaloka), what to speak of the moon, we will find the same conditions of life, namely birth, death, disease and old age. No planet in the material universe is free from these four principles of material existence." (BG Introduction)

Srila Prabhupada - "ln the brahmajyoti (spiritual world) there are innumerable spiritual planets. The number of these planets is far, far greater than all of the planets of this material world. This material world has been approximated as only one quarter of the creation (ekāṁśena sthito jagat (BG 10.42). In this material segment there are millions and billions of material universes with trillions of planets and suns, stars and moons. But this whole material creation is only a fragment of the total creation (25%), most of the creation is the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (75%). 

One who desires to merge into the existence of the Supreme Brahman is at once transferred to the brahma-jyotir of the Supreme Lord and thus attains the spiritual sky. The devotee, who wants to enjoy the association of the Lord, enters into the Vaikuṇṭha planets, which are innumerable, and the Supreme Lord by His plenary expansions as Nārāyaṇa with four hands and with different names like Pradyumna, Aniruddha and Govinda associates with him there. Therefore at the end of life the transcendentalists think either of the brahmajyoti, the Paramātmā or Supreme Personality of Godhead Śrī Kṛṣṇa." (Taken from BG Introduction)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalists and the yogīs attain liberation only after much trouble and many, many births. Even then, the liberation they achieve, merging into the impersonal brahmajyoti of the Lord is only partial, and there is the risk of returning to this material world. But the devotee, simply by understanding the transcendental nature of the body and activities of the Lord, attains the abode of the Lord after ending this body and does not run the risk of returning to this material world." (BG, Ch 4 Text 9, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is partially realized in His impersonal brahmajyoti effulgence and as the all-pervading Supersoul dwelling within everything, including the particles of atoms. 

But Kṛṣṇa is fully realized only by His pure devotees. Consequently, Kṛṣṇa is the object of everyone's realization, and thus anyone and everyone is satisfied according to one's desire to have Him. In the transcendental world also, Kṛṣṇa reciprocates with His pure devotees in the transcendental attitude, just as the devotee wants Him. One devotee may want Kṛṣṇa as supreme master, another as his personal friend, another as his son, and still another as his lover." (BG, Ch 4 Text 11, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "The word brahma (Brahman) means "spiritual." The Lord is spiritual, and the rays of His transcendental body are called brahmajyoti, His spiritual effulgence. Everything that exists is situated in that brahma-jyotir, but when the jyoti is covered by illusion (māyā) or sense gratification, it is called material." (BG, Ch 4 Text 24, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Impersonal brahmajyoti or localized Paramātmā realization is not perfect knowledge of the Absolute Truth, because it is partial. Full and scientific knowledge is Kṛṣṇa, and everything is revealed to the person in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 

In complete Kṛṣṇa consciousness one knows that Kṛṣṇa is ultimate knowledge beyond any doubts. Different types of yoga are only steppingstones on the path of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. One who takes directly to Kṛṣṇa consciousness automatically knows about brahmajyoti and Paramātmā in full. 

By practice of Kṛṣṇa consciousness yoga, one can know everything in full, namely the Absolute Truth, the living entities, the material nature, and their manifestations with paraphernalia." (BG, Ch 7 Text 1, Purport) 

Srila Prabhupada - "The ingredients of the material manifestation are separated energies of the Lord. Even the brahmajyoti, which is the ultimate goal of the impersonalists, is a spiritual energy manifested in the spiritual sky. There are no spiritual diversities in the brahma-jyotir as there are in the Vaikuṇṭhalokas, and the impersonalist accepts this brahmajyoti as the ultimate eternal goal. 

The Paramātmā manifestation is also a temporary all-pervasive aspect of the Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. The Paramātmā manifestation is not eternal in the spiritual world. Therefore the factual Absolute Truth is the Supreme Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa. He is the complete energetic person, and He possesses different separated and internal energies." (BG, Ch 7 Text 4, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "The light of the sun and the moon is also originally emanating from the brahmajyoti, which is the impersonal effulgence of the Lord. And praṇava, or the oṁkāra transcendental sound in the beginning of every Vedic hymn, addresses the Supreme Lord. 

Because the impersonalists are very much afraid of addressing the Supreme Lord Kṛṣṇa by His innumerable names, they prefer to vibrate the transcendental sound oṁkāra. But they do not realize that oṁkāra is the sound representation of Kṛṣṇa. 

The jurisdiction of Kṛṣṇa consciousness extends everywhere, and one who knows Kṛṣṇa consciousness is blessed. Those who do not know Kṛṣṇa are in illusion, and so knowledge of Kṛṣṇa is liberation, and ignorance of Him is bondage." (BG, Ch 7 Text 8, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "O my Lord, You are the maintainer of the entire universe, and devotional service to You is the highest religious principle. Therefore, I pray that You will also maintain me. 

Your transcendental form is covered by the yoga-māyā. The brahma-jyotir is the covering of the internal potency. 

May You kindly remove this glowing effulgence that impedes my seeing Your sac-cid-ānanda-vigraha (Bs. 5.1), Your eternal form of bliss and knowledge." 

The Supreme Personality of Godhead in His transcendental form of bliss and knowledge is covered by the internal potency of the brahmajyoti, and the less intelligent impersonalists cannot see the Supreme on this account." (BG, Ch 7 Text 25, Purport)

Srila Prabhupāda - "It is clearly stated here that oṁ, Brahman and Lord Kṛṣṇa are not different. The impersonal sound of Kṛṣṇa is oṁ, but the sound Hare Kṛṣṇa contains oṁ. The chanting of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra is clearly recommended for this age. So, if one quits his body at the end of life chanting, 

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare.

One will certainly reach one of the spiritual planets, according to the mode of his practice. The devotees of Kṛṣṇa enter the Kṛṣṇa planet, Goloka Vṛndāvana. For the personalists there are also innumerable other planets, known as Vaikuṇṭha planets, in the spiritual sky, whereas the impersonalists remain in the brahmajyoti."(BG, Ch 8 Text 13, Purport) 

Srila Prabhupada - "This verse especially describes the final destination attained by the unalloyed devotees who serve the Supreme Personality of Godhead in bhakti-yoga. Previous verses have mentioned four different kinds of devotees- 

1 - distressed, 

2 - inquisitive, 

3 - those who seek material gain. 

4 - the speculative philosophers. 

Different processes of liberation have also been described- 

karma-yoga, 

jñāna-yoga,

haṭha-yoga. 

The principles of these yoga systems have some bhakti added, but this verse q quite for a moment without being in contact with the Supreme Lord, just as a fish cannot live without water. In such a state, the devotee actually attains the transcendental qualities in contact with the Supreme Lord." (BG, Ch 10 Text 9, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "The word mat-paramaḥ refers to one who considers the association of Kṛṣṇa in His supreme abode to be the highest perfection of life. 

Such a person does not wish to be elevated to the higher planets such as the moon or sun or heavenly planets, or even the highest planet of this universe, Brahmaloka. He has no attraction for that. He is only attracted to being transferred to the spiritual sky. 

And even in the spiritual sky he is not satisfied with merging into the glowing brahma-jyotir effulgence, for he wants to enter the highest spiritual planet, namely Kṛṣṇaloka, Goloka Vṛndāvana. 

He has full knowledge of that planet, and therefore he is not interested in any other. As indicated by the word mad-bhaktaḥ, he fully engages in devotional service, specifically in the nine processes of devotional engagement- 

hearing, 

chanting, 

remembering, 

worshiping, 

And forever serving the lotus feet of the Lord, offering prayers, carrying out the orders of the Lord, making friends with Him, and surrendering everything to Him. One can engage in all nine devotional processes, or eight, or seven, or at least in one, and that will surely make one perfect." (BG, Ch 11 Text 55, Purport)

Srila Prabhupāda - "Nevertheless, there are those who are not attached to the personal form of Kṛṣṇa. They are so firmly detached that even in the preparation of commentaries to Bhagavad-gītā they want to distract other people from Kṛṣṇa and transfer all devotion to the impersonal brahma-jyotir. They prefer to meditate on the impersonal form of the Absolute Truth, which is beyond the reach of the senses and is not manifest." (BG, Ch 12 Text 1, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14 Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form - "Man is made after the shape of God," I think that is there in the Bible, is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri dasa– "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – [describing material form first]: "Yes, but they are more covered in the material world, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri dasa - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is always voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Devotee - "I want to know exactly what is the form of the body. If the spirit soul (jiva-soul) is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand, you have got leg; therefore your pant has got leg. Therefore, it is to be assumed that the spirit soul has got form, and it has developed into hands, legs, heads, everything. It is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14 Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you state that spirit soul has form."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Devotee - "Otherwise, how is the material body grown to accommodate the spirit soul? Just like a shirt has no form, but when it's put on the body, it takes the shapes of the body. Does that mean that the jiva-soul has the shape of the body that is accommodating it?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, you have got body, shape, very minute shape, that we cannot see, we cannot measure. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, anumeyam. You cannot measure. What is that word used? Aprameyam. Aprameyam, you cannot measure but it has a form. What is the length and breadth of that form? That is not in your power to understand, not materially. If you have got spiritual power then you can measure it because. And that measurement is also given in the śāstra. What is that? One ten-thousandth part of the tip of the hair. Hair is a very small point. And divide it into ten thousand parts. That one part is the measure, magnitude of the soul." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 16 text 24 Hawaii, Jan 20, 1974)

The individual jiva-souls are eternal PERSONS as a spiritual bodily form, who are expansions of Kṛṣṇa known as the marginal potency (marginal living entities). 

"Marginal" means they can be influenced by either the spiritual energy (their infinite natural position and home in the spiritual world), or come under the influence of material energy (the struggle for existence in the repeated cycle of birth and death. 

The marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) always had their freedom (free will) therefore, there is no question of the marginal living entity ever not having free will because free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana is perpetually part and parcel of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) make up.

The marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) originate from Goloka-Vrindavana and not the Impersonal Brahman as Prabhupada teaches.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna he becomes materially conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Infinitely, the eternal constitution of all individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are nitya-siddha because they all come from Goloka-Vrindavana, it is only when they enter the material creation and then the impersonal brahman, do they then become nitya-baddha.

Therefore nitya-siddha can become a nitya-baddhas and nitya-baddhas can AGAIN become nitya-siddha (their natural eternal constitution) 

The fact is no individual jiva-souls originate from the impersonal (dormant) Brahmajyoti which is a condition of consciousness the individual jiva-souls fall too as Prabhupada explains here-

Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the "impersonal brahman or impersonal brahmajyoti (inactive or dormant aspect of the Brahmajyoti) is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are (dormant) in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness (the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana)." (Letter to Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

We must never forget that Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, if we properly understand this, then we will understand that everything comes from Krsna and nothing can happen unless sanctioned by Krsna, including free will.

Swedish man - "Is there free will?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, just like you are sitting here. If you don’t like, you can go away. That’s your free will. There is free will, we are part and parcel of God, therefore we have got minute quantity of freedom." (Temple lecture Stockholm Sweden)

Devotee - "Is an example of free will, you can choose to turn away from Krsna?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, because if you accept Kṛṣṇa, then you must follow what Kṛṣṇa says." (Morning Walk, Jan 22, 1974, Hawaii)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva dasa - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will, he misuses his free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it, that is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada on Rene Descartes philosophy 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "Every individual jiva-soul is awarded a portion of independence because each is part and parcel of God. Thus he has the quality of independence (free will), but in minute quantity, that is his individuality." 

Syamasundara dasa - "Is Krsna within each atom as an individual entity (Visnu-tattva) different from every other living entities (jiva-tattva or jiva-soul)?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, Krsna is there, He is individual. There are varieties of atoms, and sometimes they are combined together."

Syamasundara dasa - "How is each Krsna (Visnu known as Paramatma or Supersoul) different? How is it He is an individual in each of the atoms?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Why is He not an individual? Krsna is always an individual. He is always a person, the Supreme Person, and He can expand Himself innumerably."

Syamasundara dasa - "And is Paramatma (Visnu) a person?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, every expansion is a person. We are all atomic expansions of Krsna, and we are all individual persons. Paramatma (Visnu/Narayana) is another expansion, but that is a different kind of expansion."

Syamasundara dasa - "Is the individual jiva-soul (jiva-tattva) also a person?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, if he were not a person, then how would you account for the differences? We are all different persons. You may agree with my opinion or not, but in any case you are an individual. Krsna is also an individual. Nityo nityanam. There are innumerable individual jiva-souls, but Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Individual Person." 

Syamasundara dasa - "So even within material atom, there is individual spiritual life, a spiritual force?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, force means spiritual force, the presents of Kṛṣṇa and His individual expansions."

Syamasundara dasa - "But even within the dead material body there are also forces moving the dead material bodily. There is the force of decomposition made up of unlimited scavenger living entites (bugs) of all kinds each possessing an individual jiva-soul."

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna is within every atom, and wants whatever is to be. Therefore Krsna "wills" that these two elements (atoms) become one, therefore the molecules combine to create water, or whatever. Thus there is a creation, and again there is another creation, and so on. In any case, the ultimate brain governing all creation is Krsna." (Dialectical Spiritualism: A Vedic View of Western Philosophy)

Krsna is within the material atoms, and the temporary material bodily vessel is a combination of so many of those atoms; therefore the life force is also in the atom as Paramatma [Viṣṇu] side by side with the individual dormant jiva-souls. The individual jiva-souls are inactive (dormant) within the unlimited material atoms during the process of the material bodily vessel decomposing. 

When the individual jiva-soul's move on from a particular material bodily vessel, we call that body a dead body. Still, Krsna's force is there because the body is a combination of atoms and, as explained above, Krsna as Viṣṇu is also in the material atom. 

If we properly understand this, then we will understand the following discussion that everything comes from Krsna including free will. 

Srila Prabhupada is simply confirming below that everything comes from Krsna and must be sanctioned by Krsna first, including free will.

Syamasundara dasa - "Does the individual jiva-soul have a little independence to choose?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No (not without the sanction of Krsna first because no one is really independent from Krsna as everything is His creation). Bhagavad-Gita states that when the individual jiva-soul wants to act, Krsna gives the orders - Man proposes, and God disposes."

Syamasundara dasa - "So, we have no free will?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not without the sanction of Krsna. Without Him, we cannot do anything, therefore He is the ultimate cause of all causes and not even a blade of grass can move without first being sanctioned by Krsna."

Syamasundara dasa - "But I thought you have been saying that we have a little independence."

Srila Prabhupada - "We have the independence in the sense that we may deny or affirm, but unless Krsna sanctions, we cannot do anything, there is no such thing as being ouside of Kṛṣṇa because everything is within Kṛṣṇa." (Dialectical Spiritualism: A Vedic View of Western Philosophy)

Srila Prabhupada here is simply confirming that everything comes from Krsna, and all things the individual jiva-souls have, must be first sanctioned by Krsna, including "free will." 

As said above, this is because Krsna owns everything and everything is in Him, meaning Kṛṣṇa is behind everything, making Him the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, nothing can happen without the sanction of Krsna first.

However, as we see Krsna does allow varigateness, meaning He always allows the individual jiva-souls to have their "free will" or the ability to choose for themselves because without free will, the individual jiva-souls could never voluntary contribute in their own unique individual way, their choice of service or  offerings in their unique relationship with Kṛṣṇa always in a "two-way" exchanges of loving reciprocation and cooperation.

Above Srila Prabhupada in his discussion with Syamasundara dasa, is simply making the point that everything is under the control of Krsna as the Prabhupada says in Bhagavad Gita As It Is-

"Not a blade of grass moves without the will of the Lord."

In other words, we only have free will because Krsna allows it. 

But as said above, without free will the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana would be an impersonal emotionally stagnant and cold place, just like dead stone!

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

All the individual personal contributions from the individual jiva-souls are forever expanding their unique ability of self expression in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana. This allows them to always make voluntary offerings to Krsna that forever increase and expand loving emotions in healthy "two-way" exchange of feelings between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jīva-souls.

It is very important to understand that the individual jiva-souls are "PERSONS" as a spiritual bodily form with their own unique individual feelings of self expression existing always in both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

It must be clearly understood for love to truly exist, each individual jiva-soul must have the free will to make their own choices, even if it means leaving Krsna, otherwise, there can be no question of genuine love or service without free will.

Paramahaṁsa -"So we can come to the spiritual world and return to the material world if we choose?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Paramahaṁsa - ''Fall down?''

Srila Prabhupada - ''Yes, as soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice," "Yes," Kṛṣṇa says, "yes, you go." Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Bali Mardana dasa - "An example of free will is someone can choose Kṛṣṇa, or turn away from Krsna? Is that example of free will?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, because if you accept Kṛṣṇa, then you must follow what Kṛṣṇa says. If you don't follow Kṛṣṇa, then what is the use of talking of Kṛṣṇa? Kṛṣṇa says, satataṁ kīrtayanto mām: (BG 9.14) "Always chanting about Me." That is mahātmā. Satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ (BG 9.14). Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ: (BG 9.13) Mahātmā, those who are devotee, they are not under these material influence. If he accepts Kṛṣṇa, he must abide by the injunction of Kṛṣṇa." (Morning Walk, Jan 22, 1974, Hawaii)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence (free will). If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

To say you have no desires on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana is impersonalism or mayavadi nonsense. The individual jiva-souls never loses having "desires" in the spiritual worlds because those desires are forever expanding their service to always please Krsna.

It is foolish to think one can becomes desireless in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, only the impersonalist try to extinguish their desires and in the process commit spiritual suicide.

Actually, devotees increase their desires in both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana because they desire to always please Krsna more and more for infinity.

The marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) were never created and are eternal without beginning or end like Krsna. We are all "old souls" because we have always existed, the individual jiva-souls were never.

Just like the "sun-rays" exist simultaneously with the Sun-disc, similarly, the individual jiva-souls have always existed for infinity like Krsna has.

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS as a spiritual bodily form who can never be destroyed, terminated, cut into pieces or extinguished, the individual jiva-souls are indestructible who are beginningless and endless.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 Text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed."(BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament."  (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?"(BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

The individual jiva-souls always have a unique "thinking mind of their own" as part of their eternal constitutional make-up.

This allows personal creative unique offerings to Krsna or Visnu in the spiritual world, where their is full varigateness and unlimited Past Times.

Such "free will" is allowed because God (Krsna) has given the individual jīva-souls the power to think, the power to reason, to analyse and question everything, making them the individual independent persons they are eternally.

Free will allows the individual jiva-souls in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, (and partly achieved in the material world, but only in the human species of life), the personal ability to make their own individual voluntary contributions to Krsna, or can choose to act independently and separately without Kṛṣṇa.

The individual jiva-souls in their full spiritual potential are not non-thinking, mindless, non-contributing loveless porns or puppets, who are only manipulated by the puppet master on how to think and act, therefore denied their independent individual self expression, and beautiful contributions. (Based on the excellent teachings of His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada).××.