Monday, June 23, 2025

The devotional evolution of the late George Harrison (1943/2001), a member of the Beatles famous rock and roll band who greatly helped Srila Prabhupada spread the Hare Krishna Movement all over the world.

By Gauri Dasa

Some years ago, George Harrison was already giving the world the gift of spiritual inspiration through his music when he donated the Bhaktivedanta Manor to Srila Prabhupada.

My sweet Lord . . .

"I really want to see you

Really want to be with you

Really want to see you, Lord,

but it takes so long, my Lord."

George Harrison released “My Sweet Lord,” his first solo single, in America in November 1970. Internationally, sales soon exceeded five million copies.

The biographer Simon Leng calls the release of “My Sweet Lord” one of the “boldest steps in the history of popular music,” because it risked ruining Harrison’s career.

In I, Me, Mine, George writes, “I thought a lot about whether to do “My Sweet Lord” or not, because I would be committing myself publicly, and I anticipated that a lot of people might . . . fear the words ‘Lord’ and ‘God’- makes them angry for some strange reason.”

Leng, in The Music of George Harrison, characterizes the song as “gospel incantation with a Vedic chant” and a “triumph” because it was “obviously genuine. . . . The power of the song comes from the emotion it transmits. . . . His tone was beguilingly sweet, but also sad.”

“My Sweet Lord’s” repetitive, emotional appeal, laced with self-pity, certainly is “beguilingly sweet, but also sad.” For the song expresses an aesthetic quality characteristic of Vaishnava theology. 

That quality, technically known as viraha bhakti, is a soul-stirring love for God arising from the anguish of distance and separation. 

Such love in separation is a precursor of unfettered unity, for God responds and makes Himself known by His embrace.

Srila Rupa Goswami (c. 1550 CE) describes the sweet-sad melange of separation from God in this comment- 

“If one develops love of Godhead, love of Krishna, the son of Nanda Maharaja, all the bitter and sweet influences of this love will manifest in one’s heart. Such love of Godhead acts in two ways. The poisonous effects of love of Godhead defeat the severe and fresh poison of the serpent. Yet there is simultaneously transcendental bliss, which pours down and defeats the pride of nectar and diminishes its value.” (quoted in Caitanya-caritamrita, Madhya 2.52)

The bittersweet aesthetic of “My Sweet Lord” touched the hearts of millions. Love in separation is one of many aesthetic qualities in Vaishnava theology, and some of these qualities are illustrated in George’s other lyrics. 

In making observations about George’s songs, I am not arguing that he attained the highest states of bhakti, nor do I want to pass judgment on anyone. George was seriously spiritual-minded. 

The Vaishnava journey to Krishna, in progressive stages of love, is reflected in his songs. He struggled in life, found some balance, and never departed from his convictions. Westerners especially can easily learn something about the theology of bhakti as George expressed it.

They say I’m not what I used to be. All the same, I’m happier than the willow tree . . .

I know something so dear to me

Beyond words, beautiful feeling in my soul" - from “Mystical One” (1982)

How did George’s interest in Eastern spirituality grow? At the height of the Beatles’ fame, George’s LSD experiments and interest in Indian music drew him into an experience of the all-pervasiveness of God in music (nada brahma). His friendship with the sitarist Ravi Shankar led him to India.

John Barham, another student of Shankar’s, recalled, “The meditative aspect of some Indian music touched George in a way that no other music did, and this did influence the development of his own identity in a profound way.”

Upon returning to record with the Beatles, George’s realizations were set to an Indian rhythm and melody in “Within You Without You” on the Sgt. Pepper album (1967)-

“When you see we’re all one, and life flows on within you and without you.”The 

That August, George attended a lecture in London by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and then went on a retreat with him in Wales. 

Next, along with the other Beatles, George stayed in Rishikesh with Maharishi for three months. By July of 1968, George’s quest was portrayed in the film Yellow Submarine: He was the mystical Beatle, wearing wooden beads and seated in a lotus position.

In London in November 1969, George met a small group of Hare Krishna devotees. 

Gathering the group in Apple’s Abbey Road studio, he recorded the single “Hare Krishna Mantra,” which quickly became the number one song in Britain and several other countries. 

Then George met Srila Prabhupada in England and received his encouragement to write songs about Krishna.

George next donated twenty thousand dollars to publish Srila Prabhupada’s book Krishna, a narration of Krishna’s transcendental life from the Bhagavata Purana’s Tenth Canto. In the foreword, George mentions reconciling all things in Krishna, or God.

Interviewed about the success of “My Sweet Lord” and his triple album All Things Must Pass (1970), George said, “I want to be God conscious. That’s really my only ambition, and everything else in life is incidental.”

It appears from the lyrics in the album Dark Horse (1974) that George, though making spiritual progress, relapsed and had to struggle with unwanted habits. He writes about this with stark honesty in these songs. 

However, from then on he apparently found a steady balance between worldly existence and his commitment to a spiritual path. His resolve became firmer. This is evident from his final songs and from his widow Olivia’s descriptions.

George’s spiritual resolution rarely decreased for the rest of his life, Olivia said about her late husband: “The issue of possessions, attachment, and identification with the ego were in the forefront of our awareness, and George was always quick to point out that in reality there is no I, me, or mine. George was relentless at keeping our spiritual aim.”

In the obituaries, his most often recurring quote was “Everything else can wait, but the search for God . . .”

The Vaishnava Path

The doctrinal focus of the Bhagavad-gita is devotional service to Sri Krishna, and the devotion of intense love and separation (viraha bhakti) is found in the Caitanya Vaishnavas’ most influential devotional text, the Bhagavata Purana (Srimad-Bhagavatam) , and in the South Indian songs of the ülvars.

In Philosophy and Theistic Mysticism of the Alvars, S.M.S. Chari presents Srila Ramanuja’s understanding of devotion in four phases. The first phase, bhakti, is sincere devotion, with a keen desire to see God. 

When bhakti is nurtured and made steady through meditation and practice, as outlined in the Gita, it is called para-bhakti, the second phase. Then come initial experiences of God, temporary glimpses of God within—the third phase, para-jnana. 

Having had glimpses, the devotee feels an intense anguish of separation and ardently yearns for a full, uninterrupted vision of God. This fourth phase, called parama-bhakti, in due course delivers one from worldly existence through direct realization of God. 

The joy of union and the anguish of separation alternate, arousing unceasing and ever-increasing ecstasy and contemplation.

Prominent followers of Sri Chaitanya reflected on His life and teachings with extensive references to the Bhagavata Purana. The first of them to identify chronological stages of devotional achievement was Rupa Goswami, who outlined nine stages: faith (shraddha), the association of saints (sadhu-sanga), devotional practices (bhajana-kriya), purification (anartha-nivritti), resolve (nishtha), relish ( ruci), attachment (asakti), love (bhava), and pure love (prema). (Bhakti-rasamrita-sindhu 1.4.15-16) 

Two centuries after Rupa, Srila Vishvanatha Chakravarti wrote Madhurya Kadambini to elaborate on Rupa’s stages. Later, in Sri Bhajana-rahasya Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura (c. 1850) correlated the nine stages with the eight verses of Caitanya’s Sikshashtaka. With respect to their descriptions of the Vaishnava path to Krishna, we now turn to George’s songs.

“Awaken and See”

The earliest sign of bhakti, says Rupa, is faith: a trust or interest in the path. Vishvanatha mentions a firm trust in devotional scriptures and a genuine desire to practice their prescriptions. Bhaktivinoda presents the first act of faith as remembering God by the continued repetition of His names, which subdues ignorance.

In George’s songs, faith appears in “Awaiting on You All,” wherein George humorously excludes any requirements other than chanting: “You don’t need no passport. And you don’t need no visas.”

He asks you to “open up your heart” to recognize that we are “polluted” and “fallen” and take the solution: “Now here’s a way for you to get clean.”

By chanting the names of the Lord and you’ll be free.

The Lord is awaiting on you all to awaken and see.

The words “awaken and see” express George’s early faith and encouragement to others. The song embodies his understanding of scriptural lessons he learned from Srila Prabhupada, both in person and through his books.

“I Look for the Pure in Heart”

Next Rupa speaks of three stages: saintly association, practice, and purification. He explains that saints and gurus are respectfully approached for instruction on proper conduct. This is also important to Vishvanatha, who explains how unsteadiness is overcome as obstacles are surmounted. 

Bhaktivinoda includes in his second division both good association and overcoming obstacles. For him, the separation of the soul from Krishna and its misidentification with matter (maya) are unwanted. Other obstacles (weakness of heart, offenses) can be overcome by chanting, by following a guru’s direction, and by receiving the mercy of saints. He advises shunning bad company and desires for fame.

George’s rejection of fame and possessions is identifiable in “I, Me, Mine,” the last song the Beatles recorded. George, in “Help Me Lord,” petitions God to snuff out his mundane desires.

In “Beware of Darkness,” he warns, “Watch out now, take care, beware of the thoughts that linger, winding up inside your head. . . . each unconscious sufferer wanders aimlessly; beware of Maya.”

In “The Day the World Gets ‘Round,” he describes a deluded world and the foolishness of people, while himself aspiring for good company: “I look for the pure of heart, and the ones who have made a start. . . . But Lord, there are just a few, who bow before you.”

“Your Love and Nothing More”

Steady resolve and resolute practice constitute Rupa’s fifth stage. Vishvanatha says that although impurities are still somewhat present, they no longer distract one from direct devotional practices, and one develops qualities favorable to the practice, such as humility. 

Bhaktivinoda emphasizes the necessity of self-surrender, eagerness for bhakti, and profound humility.

“That is All,” George’s final track on Living in the Material World, illustrates these qualities: “That is all I’m living for, your love and nothing more, and that is all . . . that is all I want to do, to give my love to you. . . . Please let me love you more, and that is all.”

In “Give Me Love,” a full commitment is expressed: “Trying to touch and reach you with heart and soul.”

George’s humility is evident in “Hear Me Lord”: “please, please hear me, Lord, . . . forgive me, . . . help me rise a little higher.”

“He Whose Sweetness Flows”

Rupa’s sixth stage, relish, implies a taste of the nectar derived from resolute practices. For Vishvanatha, relish results from taking the “golden medallion” of bhakti deep into the heart. An unimaginable bliss, “taste” acts like a dance instructress who takes the devotee by the hands. 

At this stage Bhaktivinoda emphasizes total uninterest in worldly affairs, owing to a taste for the holy name. With one’s attention undivided, worldly interests dwarf before bhakti’s sweetness.

During a visit to Vrindavan, the sacred village where Krishna grew up, George illustrated bhakti’s sweetness in a song he wrote there: “It is ‘He’ (Jai Sri Krishna).” The song mainly repeats and relishes names of Krishna and Radha, His consort.

The tempo and lyrics delight the listener: “He whose sweetness flows to anyone of those that care to look his way, see his smile. . . . He who is complete, three worlds at his feet, cause of every star. It is ‘He’: Jai Sri Krishna.”

George also used “sweet” to describe God in “My Sweet Lord,” accompanied by the significant, repetitive sound of “Hmm,” as if encouraging listeners to taste the sweetness.

“You are the breath of life”

In Rupa’s seventh stage, strong attachment appears. Vishvanatha says that although “taste” has Krishna as its subject, the subject becomes profoundly Krishna at the stage of attachment. This attachment reaches an “extreme depth,” and it polishes the mirror of the heart so that the Lord’s reflection is almost visible. Such absorption requires no effort, whereas remaining conscientious about normal worldly dealings does.

The devotee may call out, “Will I ever see Krishna? Where shall I go? What shall I do to attain my desired object?”

Bhaktivinoda explains that this stage is attained by chanting without offenses and makes one feel insignificant and full of anguish. George’s song “Life Itself” suggests some awareness of this sort of attachment:

You are the One

You are my love

You send the rain and bring the sun You stand alone and speak the truth

You are the breath of life itself,

Oh yes you are, you are the One.

I need you more each step I take

You are the love in life itself . . .

You are the one that I’d die for

And you’re all that is real

You are the essence of that which

We taste, touch and feel . . .

You are my friend and when life’s through

You are the light in death itself, oh yes you are.

In Ramanuja’s third and fourth stages, glimpses of God are achieved and relieve a devotee’s feeling of separation from God. The joy of union and the anguish of separation alternate. This is also represented in George’s lyrics-

It’s been a long long long time.

How could I ever have lost you?

When I loved you?

It took a long, long, long time.?

Now I’m so happy I found you?

How I love you

So many tears I was searching

. . . How I want you

Oh, I love you

You know that I need you

Oh, I love you.

Devotional heights akin to a madness of extreme emotion and unusual bodily symptoms are not identifiable in George’s songs. As described in Rupa’s eighth and ninth stages, there is a meltdown of the heart and mind, as God’s beauty overwhelms the devotee. Such love exhibits possessiveness of God and marks the stage of prema. God, powerless before such love, reveals Himself in all His beauty and charm.

Both Vishvanatha and Bhaktivinoda cite examples and verses that convey the nature of these stages. The condition is best portrayed in the life of Caitanya: Paralyzed and then shaking, sweating, and turning pallid, Caitanya wept and uttered indistinct sounds. His bodily hairs stood on end. He laughed, wept, danced about, and sang. He jumped up and ran about, and the next moment fell on the ground unconsciousness.

George remained detached from the wealth and fame that surrounded him. His catalogue of songs honestly illustrates what he learned about the devotional path and could express in the grammar of a contemporary rock star. (end)

















No, no, this world will NOT be destroyed by nuclear weapons, climate change or pandemics whether we understand it or not (not over the next 10,000 years at least).

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has come to this very, very rare Kali-yuga to establish His Golden Age of the great Sankirtan Movement.

This WILL happen!

We are presently only in the very early pioneering years of the great Sankirtan Movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu (just 58 years ago did Srila Prabhupada establish ISKCON in 1966)

Lord Caitanya comes only once in a day of Brahma to one Kali-yuga out of 1000, as part of the 4 yuga's that make up a Maha-yuga that are-

Satya-yuga

Treta-yuga

Dvarpara-yuga

Kali-yuga.

All occur only between sunrise and sunset (there are no Maha-yugas during Brahma's night) 

So, both Brahma's "day-time," when the 1000 Maha-yugas happen, and Brahmas "night-time," where there are no Maha-yugas, together equals 8 billion 640 million years according to Caitanya Caritamrita CC Adi 3.10, Purport.




















Krsna is everything and nothing exists outside of Him because there is nothing outside of Krsna, He is everything there is, within and without.

Everything there is, known or unknown, within or without, dreamed and not yet dreamed, exists in Krsna.

Krsna is the ultimate source and sustainer of all creation, encompassing both the manifested universe and whatever existence that is not yet manifest or realized. 

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed."(BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament."  (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?"(BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the Vedas – in the Kaṭha Upaniṣad as well as in the Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad – it is said that the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the maintainer of innumerable living entities, in terms of their different situations according to individual work and reaction of work. That Supreme Personality of Godhead is also, by His plenary portions, alive in the heart of every living entity. 

Only saintly persons who can see, within and without, the same Supreme Lord can actually attain to perfect and eternal peace.

nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām
eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān
tam ātma-sthaṁ ye ’nupaśyanti dhīrās
teṣāṁ śāntiḥ śāśvatī netareṣām
(Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13)

The same Vedic truth given to Arjuna is given to all persons in the world who pose themselves as very learned but factually have but a poor fund of knowledge. The Lord says clearly that He Himself, Arjuna and all the kings who are assembled on the battlefield are eternally individual beings and that the Lord is eternally the maintainer of the individual living entities both in their conditioned and in their liberated situations. 

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is the supreme individual person, and Arjuna, the Lord’s eternal associate, and all the kings assembled there are individual eternal persons. It is not that they did not exist as individuals in the past, and it is not that they will not remain eternal persons. Their individuality existed in the past, and their individuality will continue in the future without interruption.Therefore, there is no cause for lamentation for anyone.

The Māyāvādī theory that after liberation the individual soul, separated by the covering of māyā, or illusion, will merge into the impersonal Brahman and lose its individual existence is not supported herein by Lord Kṛṣṇa, the supreme authority. Nor is the theory that we only think of individuality in the conditioned state supported herein. Kṛṣṇa clearly says herein that in the future also the individuality of the Lord and others, as it is confirmed in the Upaniṣads, will continue eternally. This statement of Kṛṣṇa’s is authoritative because Kṛṣṇa cannot be subject to illusion. 

If individuality were not a fact, then Kṛṣṇa would not have stressed it so much – even for the future. The Māyāvādī may argue that the individuality spoken of by Kṛṣṇa is not spiritual, but material. Even accepting the argument that the individuality is material, then how can one distinguish Kṛṣṇa’s individuality? Kṛṣṇa affirms His individuality in the past and confirms His individuality in the future also. 

He has confirmed His individuality in many ways, and impersonal Brahman has been declared to be subordinate to Him. Kṛṣṇa has maintained spiritual individuality all along; if He is accepted as an ordinary conditioned soul in individual consciousness, then His Bhagavad-gītā has no value as authoritative scripture. A common man with all the four defects of human frailty is unable to teach that which is worth hearing. The Gītā is above such literature. No mundane book compares with the Bhagavad-gītā. 

When one accepts Kṛṣṇa as an ordinary man, the Gītā loses all importance. The Māyāvādī argues that the plurality mentioned in this verse is conventional and that it refers to the body. But previous to this verse (BG, Ch 2 text 11) such a bodily conception is already condemned. After condemning the bodily conception of the living entities, how was it possible for Kṛṣṇa to place a conventional proposition on the body again? Therefore, individuality is maintained on spiritual grounds and is thus confirmed by great ācāryas like Śrī Rāmānuja and others. 

It is clearly mentioned in many places in the Gītā that this spiritual individuality is understood by those who are devotees of the Lord. Those who are envious of Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead have no bona fide access to the great literature. The nondevotee’s approach to the teachings of the Gītā is something like that of a bee licking on a bottle of honey. One cannot have a taste of honey unless one opens the bottle. 

Similarly, the mysticism of the Bhagavad-gītā can be understood only by devotees, and no one else can taste it, as it is stated in the Fourth Chapter of the book (Bhagavad Gita As It Is). Nor can the Gītā be touched by persons who envy the very existence of the Lord. Therefore, the Māyāvādī explanation of the Gītā is a most misleading presentation of the whole truth. 

Lord Caitanya has forbidden us to read commentations made by the Māyāvādīs and warns that one who takes to such an understanding of the Māyāvādī philosophy loses all power to understand the real mystery of the Gītā. If individuality refers to the empirical universe, then there is no need of teaching by the Lord. The plurality of the individual soul and the Lord is an eternal fact, and it is confirmed by the Vedas as above mentioned." (BG, Ch 2 text 12 Purport)<^^>










Monday, June 9, 2025

Genuine loving devotional service to Krsna is only possible in a "two-way" cooperative exchange of feelings that manifest in loving acts of reciprocation and mutual returns between Krsna and His pure devotees.

The highest love means both Krsna and His devotees serve each other without any desire for returns or reward, infact even though it is said the individual jiva-souls are Krsna's eternal servants in their full potential, the fact is Krsna serves His pure devotees far more than they can ever serve Him.

Krsna is the most selfless, the most humble, the most forgiving, the most serving.

We tend to forget how loving Krsna is to His pure devotees, for every step the devotee makes towards Krsna, He makes a thousand towards them.

Krsna's love for His devotees is inconceivable and deeply personal.

The devotees voluntarily contribute their own service and offerings individually unique to each of them, in response to Krsna's love and attention He showers them with. 

These kinds of selfless loving expressions are given in return because of Krsna's love, affection, protection and attention towards them.

This is the meaning and foundation of the word devotion, which is the real act of choosing to surrender to Krsna's will.

The simple understanding is this, if you love another, then you will always voluntarily do nice things for them, serve them and those they love.

On the other hand, for free will to have meaning, the individual jiva-souls (devotees) can also completely reject Krsna if they choose.

This "two-way" scenario is sanctioned by Krsna so free will can truly exist, otherwise if it was only "one-sided" with demands that the devotees must serve Krsna without loving contributions and exchanges, then free will would have no meaning.

Without the basic devotional, standard of having loving voluntary exchanges with Krsna or Visnu on a "two-way" cooperative street, then there can never be genuine love or voluntary service in one's relationship with Krsna.

Emotions expressed from only one individual person without the acknowledgement and acceptance of a second individual person, who also contribute to the decision making with their personal contributions, is known as impersonalism.

For love to exist, there must be a "two-way exchange" of feelings that expands, enriches and adds meaning, allowing a two-sided relationship to florish. 

The fact is, loving affection, sentiment and exchanges can only be experienced between two, where giving and receiving is possible that allows mutual reciprocation. 

Each jiva-soul (individual living units of anti-matter) known as Krsna's marginal energy, are singular one of a kind individual persons, who each have their own unique personality and spiritual bodily form, different from all other personalities, including Kṛṣṇas. 

There are no two individual jiva-souls who are the same, and no individual jiva-soul can ever be equal to Krsna (God), the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, who is simultaneously an individual Person, and is all-one (all-pervasive) with His spiritual and material creations. 

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana are not a dictatorial "one-way" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding dictatorship that denies individual personal voluntary contributions due to Krsna doing all the thinking and decision making for you. No, the spiritual planets are not impersonal or emotionally stagnant like that.

The fact is, on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana (the Kingdoms of God) there are always loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions based on "free will", and loving enriching reciprocation going on between Krsna and His devotees because without these attributes there can never be love.

Love can never exist with just one, there must be two so loving exchanges can be shared.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Therefore, loyalty is always a "two-way" street where the individual jiva-souls have their own unique personality seperate from Krsna's Personality, who are able to add their own personal unique expressions into the relationship with Kṛṣṇa that expands and forever enhances and enriches one's friendship with Krsna. 

Krsna will never "force" His devotee to do what he/she does not voluntary choose to do on the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, because they are not Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who are controlled in every way like a puppet master impersonally controls his puppets with the manipulation of strings. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So, surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is not impersonal, where the individual jiva-souls loses their free will (freedom of expression) that allows them to participate in a meaningful relationship by choosing, as the individual person they eternally are, the way they want to participate in voluntary service to Krsna, where the relationship with Kṛṣṇa is a two-way reciprocal exchange of loving emotions, only then does real love exist. 

Therefore, surrendering to Krsna does not mean you have to give up your intelligence, free will, personality, individuality and voluntary service and just be told how to think and perform all duties with no personal contributing participation. No, that type of "surrender" is impersonalism. 

Each individual jiva-soul needs to be nurtured to the top most platform by developing the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person who can voluntary serve Krsna eternally.

The spiritual worlds are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless totalitarian place for the individual jiva-souls, where they only obey the "supreme leader" and told how to act and think. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not impersonal like that in anyway, there is always voluntary loving exchanges of feelings and emotions going on, that are based on loving reciprocation between between two, between Krsna and His pure devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotee want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, and become a flower, voluntarily. And one can change from flower to any bodily form including human body, that is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

One's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom is never a one sided master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as explained above, Prabhupada is telling us here.

The individual jiva-souls in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever voluntarily expanding their unique expressions of service with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings made possible because of free will.

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

The fallen individual jiva-souls can also reside "inactively" in the impersonal brahmajyoti for a very, very, very long time (Millions of life times of Lord Brahma who lives for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years), however, they can NEVER remain "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti eternally, eventually they fall from there too and take birth in the temporary material world.

This is because the nature of the individual jiva-souls is to always be "active," either in their original home in the spiritual world, or in the temporary material world confined to transmigrating through 8 million 400 thousand species of material life (material bodily forms), that they again constantly try to be liberated from because of so much frustration, pain suffering. 

In other words, the impersonalists want their identity and personality permanently extinguished (spiritual suicide) because of so much pain and suffering they experience while trapped in cycle of birth and death in the material world. But permanent cessation of active existence is not possibe. 

In fact, not even Kṛṣṇa, Visnu or Siva can grant this foolish attempted spiritual suicide (to achieve permanent inactivity) by the fallen individual jiva-souls. 

This is because, as said above, the eternal nature of the individual jiva-souls in their original position and full potential in the spiritual world, is to be eternally fully "active" in Krsna or Visnu's pastimes.

Srila Prabhupāda - "Existence in the impersonal brahman (being inactive and identity extinguished) is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness and is also only a temporary condition (because the nature of the soul is to be always active in Krsna's pastimes.) Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in a fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana dasa, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

There is one benediction Krsna, Visnu or Siva and their devotees can NEVER grant.

Many impersonalist are very knowledgeable, as said above, many know Kṛṣṇa is an eternal Person and is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, but do not follow Him, or have any desire to serve Him.

The impersonalist have great knowledge of the Vedas, especially Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 that tells them - "The individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless and therefore will NEVER die."

But they do not accept that and only ask one benediction from Visnu, which is to die and cease to exist! To come to an inactive ending and never again falling out of the inactive impersonal brahmajyoti.

They know that presently their impersonal beliefs allow them to enter the impersonal brahmajyoti, where they can remain for a trillion life times of Lord Brahma (He lives for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years) but eventually again falls down from the impersonal brahmajyoti to again take birth in the temporary material world.

The impersonalist do not want that rebirth in the material world because while "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti for a trillion life times of Brahma, there is no pain and suffering experienced life after life in the material world. The fallen individual jiva-souls want to no longer exists and be eternally "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti.

However, that is not possible, even billions of life times of Brahma is only a blink of an eye once the individual jiva-soul re-emerges from its impersonal slumber and again takes birth in the temporary material world, within a material bodily vessel.

So, these impersonalist (fallen individual jiva-souls who have now forgotten they were once Kṛṣṇa's devotee), now wants nothing do do with the Vaikuntha planets of Visnu/Narayana, or Krsna's central Abode of Goloka-Vrindavana, or the temporary material world of pain and suffering, ask Visnu to grant them (the individual jiva-soul) the benediction of permanent "death," and allow them to eternally reside in the "active" impersonal brahmajyoti that has no sense of individual self, no personality and no spiritual bodily form. 

They only want to appear eternally as an inactive individual impersonal "spark" hovering endlessly in the impersonal brahmajyoti.

In other words, the impersonalists want their identity, personality and spiritual bodily form eternally extinguished, they want to cease to exist which is really attempting to commit spiritual suicide. 

But Kṛṣṇa, Visnu or Siva can NEVER grant this silly attempt of spiritual suicide, because the eternal nature of the individual jiva-soul in their original position, is being beginningless and endless as a spiritual bodily form who is fully "active" serving Krsna or Visnu in the spiritual world. 

Only there on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana, is there no suffering, decay, birth or death.

These spiritual worlds are eternally youthful, and are the real home for the eternal individual jiva-souls.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also an individual person eternally as you are individual person eternally, I am individual person, but the difference between God and you and me is this, that you know your business, I know my business, but God knows everyone's business. That is the difference." (Lecture Melb, Australia April 3, 1972)

As explained above, real love, service or bhakti is reciprocal, it is never a "one-way street" where so called surrender to Krsna means only obeying without the choice of voluntary participation and personal contributions. 

Surrender to Krsna will never take away the devotee's individual freedom of choice on how they can voluntary provide a variety of unique personal contributions (offering) to Krsna when ever they want.

Each individual jiva-soul (devotee) has their own independent personality (yet always dependent on Krsna), but separate from Krsna's Personality.

This means they have their own sense of independent identity, of being a unique free thinking person that each individual jiva-souls have.

Meaning each individual jiva-soul has their own unique personality, or a strong sense of a singular unique identity).  

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva soul) making each of them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.

Free will in its full potential, is only fully experienced on the Vaikuntha planets and on Goloka-Vrindavan, which are the individual jiva-souls original perpetual home.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly, that is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means we have free will."

Hayagriva dasa - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is his free will, he misuses his free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad, but still he does it, that is his free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing, he knows he will be eventually punished, he knows; he has seen other thieves get caught and punshed and put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada and devotees on Rene Descartes philosophy)

Vipina Purandara - "Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand to them, "You love me, you love me, you love me!" Is it love? "You love me, otherwise I will kill you!" Is that love?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Krsna does not want followers who deny others their right to choose for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna, by offering their own unique personal contributions, or even rejecting Krsna if they choose as Prabhupada explains.

There is always a choice and that is why "free will" always exists in God's Kingdom, otherwise surrendering to Krsna without having the individual choice of to voluntary serve Him in the way they choose, makes the jiva-souls (devotees) mindless impersonal porns with no personality, making them no better than dead emotionless stone.

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges and cooperation between Krsna and His devotees, it is never a "one-way" demanding forceful dictatorial relationship.  

Ultimately, we are all Krsna's servants and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our free will and individual identity to be Krsna's friend and servant.

Free will has always existed in Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavana, and on Visnu/Narayana's Vaikuntha planets, and has eternally been part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul).

And yes, Krsna always allows free will because wants to experience a two-way voluntary relationship with His devotees and feel the loving exchanges, cooperation, participation and reciprocation with them.

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval the individual jiva-souls have everything including their free will. 

Everything there is, known or unknown, within or without, dreamed and not yet dreamed, exists in Krsna.

Therefore, Krsna is everything and nothing exists outside of Him because there is nothing outside of Krsna, He is everything there is, within and without.

Krsna is the ultimate source and sustainer of all creation, encompassing both the manifested universe and whatever existence that is not yet manifest or realized. 

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

As said above, if Krsna denied the individual jiva-soul's there free will, then they are no better than dead mindless stone.

Without free will the individual jiva-souls can never experience loving exchanges, participation, nor experience emotions and feelings for others because ultimately love is a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings only experienced when there is voluntary contributions in a two-way exchange that can only work when there is free will. 

Genuine love can never be experienced in a "one-way" totally controlled environment run by Krsna or anyone. Such impersonal control of an individual is called slavery.

Emotions expressed in a "one-way" mood without any exchange between ,"two" is not love at all, it is selfishness, and is really dangerous impersonalism.

Therefore, without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva soul will never experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and their personal unique offerings of individual contributions to Krsna 

As Prabhupada says, without "free will" we are no better than dead stone!

Free will or the ability to choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and always exists without beginning or end in all the spiritual planets.

As said above, free will in its full potential only exists on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, which are our original perpetual home from where we originated from.

As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls is never a "one-sided" domineering dictatorial autocracy, where the individual jiva-souls are denied their personal contributions, and having the choice in how they want to serve Krsna, but instead told what to do and think.

No, proper loving relations are ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there are two exchanging loving devotion for each other, as Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately, each individual jiva-soul is a unique person as a spiritual bodily form, who can choose for themselves how they want to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him. 

As Prabhupada explains here, Krsna never forces the individual jiva-souls to mindlessly surrender to Him, never forces them to love Him, that MUST be voluntary so loving exchanges and mutual cooperation can exist on a two-way street. This also means one must choose for themselves how they want to serve Krsna, or even not serve Him at all, there is always a choice.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary. Love is reciprocal, good exchange of feeling, then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?" Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence, that is force. In Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand you love me, you love me, you love me, otherwise I will kill you, is that love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love?" So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver - "You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).

The individual jiva-souls on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever expanding their expression of individual contributions with personal offerings based on free will, inspired by selfless loving exchanges and  reciprocation with Krsna, it is never a one-sided master/slave relationship with God in His Kingdom.

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own autonomous personality that is separate from Krsna's Personality, having their own sense of independent self, and unique characteristics that each individual jiva-soul uniquely has, meaning no two other individual jiva-souls are the same. 

Each jiva-soul is a unique individual with their own personality and exclusive spiritual bodily form. 

All these qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) make up in the spiritual worlds as the independent unique "PERSON" they are eternally.

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. So God does not interfere with your independence." (Conversation Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Having the attributes of being an eternal PERSON as a spiritual bodily form similar to Krsna's Body, also includes having the free will to voluntary serve Krsna the way the devotee chooses to serve.

And never in the way impersonalist leadership demands, with their cold autocratic dictates that denies all personal contributions and voluntary involvement.  

Krsna does not want to be surrounded those "mindless puppets" who have no individual creative offerings of their own making to voluntary contribute to Krsna because they wrongly believe surrender means being totally controlled by a puppet master (their version of Krsna) and like that puppet, only told what to offer and how to think. No, real personal surrender to Krsna is not impersonal like that.

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotee want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, and become a flower, voluntarily. And one can change from flower to any bodily form including human body, that is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)///