Tuesday, December 17, 2024

We always hear we must surrender to Krsna and serve Him without any desire for reward. In actual fact, Kṛṣṇa serves His devotees far, far more than they can EVER serve Him.

A Loving servitude relationship with Krsna is always based on a "two-way" reciprocal exchange of personal co-operative loving feelings and emotions, in fact, out of selfless love, as said above, Krsna serves His devotees far more than they can ever serve Him. 

Srila Prabhupada – “If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life.” (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

The fact is, mindless impersonal forced so called "surrender" to a God, Spiritual Master, teacher, husband or any leadership without being encouraged, nurtured and taught how to voluntary contribute to the relationship in a "two-way" exchange of personal caring unique inter relationship co-operation, is dangerous selfish impersonalism and suicidal cult mentality.

Especially the primitive barbaric nonsense silly teachings a wife must be the slave of her husband that only fools preach. 

The individual jiva-souls must be encouraged and nurtured to only participate in a "two-way" reciprocal relationship of respectful exchanges, where the devotee is always encouraged by the bonafide spiritual teacher to come to the platform of voluntary personal contributions. 

Mindless surrender in a “one-sided” loveless dictatorship is nonsense impersonalism and dangerous.

Such impersonal dominant relationships, where the individual jīva-soul’s personality and character are artificially restricted and suppressed by always being told what to do without personal input, and not being allowed to think for themselves, only extinguishes the jiva-soul's spiritual identity, individuality, self expression and personality.

Such Mayavadi (impersonal)  teachings of attempting to extinguish "free will" and voluntary participation in the spiritual world in the name of surrender, is spiritual suicide!!

Under such impersonal conditions of being denied the spiritual right of self determination, the individual jiva-soul's natural constitution of self-expression, that allows them to choose for themselves what to contribute or offer to Kṛṣṇa, is replaced by a "one-way" emotionless forceful demands of being told what to do, what to offer and how to think.

No, the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are NOT loveless and mindless, devoid of voluntary individual contributions or impersonal in way like like that.

Krsna does NOT treat His devotees like the impersonal puppet master manipulates his puppets to only do what he demands.

Srila Prabhupada – “We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love.” (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada  - “Also free will means that you can act wrongly if you choose. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will.”

Hayagriva dasa – “A man may know better but still act wrongly.”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will.” (Excerpt: Discussions on Rene Descartes philosophy)

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – “The impersonalist philosophy is oneness so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant.” (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – “Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation.” (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

The relationship with Krsna in the spiritual world (The Kingdom of God) is NEVER a “one-way” forced unproductive loveless affinity.

The individual jiva-soul's  relationship with Krsna is always based on free will, voluntary cooperation and cooperative contributions. This "two-way exchange" allows an unlimited variety of unique creative personal offerings of service to Krsna that deepens, expands and adds mystery to one's relationship with Krsna.

Only then can genuine loving exchanges truly exist when it is based on a "two-way" exchange of reciprocal feelings.

Śrīla Prabhupāda – “Love means "two-persons," I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, then these things must be there.” (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

The individual jiva-souls, as their full potential of spiritual bodily form on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever positively re-inventing themselves by always choosing how to forever increase their variety of voluntary contributions (service) to Krsna.

This is achieved by forever positively discovering a variety of loving ways to expand their individual expression of personal offerings to Krsna in their perpetual unique intimate relationship with Him.

Such a relationship with Krsna is never impersonal, which means one-sided or a one-way dictatorship  because Krsna always co-operates by reciprocating with genuine loving affection with His devotees in a “two-way” exchange of loving emotions.

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Real love (service) is voluntary and can never exist on a “one-way" impersonal path because love can only exists when "two" are involved in voluntary reciprocal contributing loving exchanges.  

Surrender to Krsna does not mean eliminating your individual identity, personality, sense of self and denying self-expression and voluntary offerings through free will, no, such a mindless "one-sided" existence only allows a none-contributing stagnant loveless impersonal version of so called surrender to Krsna (God)

This kind of mindless (emotionless) so called surrender only extinguishes the individual jiva-soul's independent spirit of self expression, individuality, free-will and their ability to voluntary contribute and provide individual offerings to Radha and Krsna.

From personal voluntarily self chosen contributions offered by the individual jiva-souls that are different from Krsna's shower of loving affection, makes the relationship with Krsna a two-way mystery of exchanges that only further enriches, intensifies and expands loving exchanges and affection between the jiva-souls and Krsna.

Such personal unique contributions from the individual jiva-soul's independent expressions coming from expressing their free will, forever expands their personal ability to make voluntary offerings that forever increase their loving emotions for Krsna in a healthy "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation.

Genuine loving exchanges or service is always a "two-way" street, it is never a "one-way" or a one-sided affair because, as said above, relationships expressed in a "one-sided" dominance without having mutal loving respectful exchanges between two, is not love at all, it is cold impersonalism.

Loving service can only really again exist when the conditioned jīva-souls in the material world in the rare human form of life are trained up by the Spiritual Master to eventually reach their full potential as Kṛṣṇa’s pure devotees, where they can again express the full potential of their constitutional right as a marginal living entity (jiva-soul) who reciprocates fully with Kṛṣṇa in a two-way relationship loving exchanges in the spiritual world.

Only then can love or service be genuinely expressed in its natural two-way relationship based on reciprocal exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jīva-souls.

Kṛṣṇa gave the individual jīva-souls their freedom (free will) for this purpose to establish a two-way voluntary relationship, just so they can express their personal unique loving feelings too, experienced differently from Krsna by each individual jīva-soul in their unique relationship with Krsna.

The fact is, real freedom, or experiencing the full potential of one's unique independent personality, is only fully experienced in Goloka Vṛndāvana and on the Vaikuṇṭha planets, where no jiva-soul is forced to do anything in both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana they do not choose to do because all service on the spiritual planets are voluntary and never forced or demanded.

The reason why the spiritual worlds are like this, is all loving relationship with Kṛṣṇa are never founded on Him forcing His demands of obedience or even viewpoints on the individual jiva-souls. The jiva-souls must voluntary choose for themselves only then can loving exchanges and mutual respect exist between Krsna and His devotees.

A relationship where a devotee is always told what to do, how to think and how to act, and to only just obey without personal voluntary contributions (offerings) and intelligent inquiry, only makes the jiva-souls no better than dead stone and is impersonalism.

Krsnà (God) is the source of all things, nothing can operate or exist separate from Krsna, not a blade of grass can move without the will of the Lord.

However, the paradox here is the individual jiva-souls have their independence and free will too, each jiva-soul has their own unique personality and character separate from Krsna's Personality. 

Therefore, even though Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes and all living entities are fully dependent on Krsna, the paradox here is the individual jiva-souls have their unique freedom too.

Such freedom must exist for the individual jiva-souls, so they can express their own unique independent nature by choosing for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krsna, or even not serve Him at all if they choose.

Without such freedom, that even includes rejecting Krsna, then genuine loving exchanges and reciprocation with Krsna can never exist.

If Krsna denied the individual jiva-souls their freedom of expression and voluntary service, then their existence has no meaning at all and the eternal jiva-souls would be no better than dead stone or lifeless matter.

The eternal original spiritual bodily form of the individual jiva-soul (marginal living entity), is a two armed spiritual bodily form like Krsnas. 

However, the individual jiva-souls can voluntarily change their form in unlimited ways over their eternal existence.

The eternal natural original spiritual bodily form of the individual jiva-soul is not impersonal, it is an individual PERSON like Krsna's two-armed spiritual Bodily form, the individual jiva-souls can also change their bodily appearance according to pastime explained here by Prabhupada.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world, how the individual jiva-souls appear there as a spiritual bodily form and serves Krsna, is always voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Kṛṣṇa as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, and become flower, voluntarily. And he can change from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Kṛṣṇa as cow, he serves Kṛṣṇa as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. Ye yathā mām prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham (BG 4.11). That is Kṛṣṇa's all-powerful spiritual life." (Lecture SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1, Melb, Australia May 21, 1975)=^=














Krsna (God) is the source of all things, nothing can operate or exist separate from Krsna, not a blade of grass can move without the will of the Lord.

Those foolish naive devotees who only want to be Krsna's mindless non-contributing puppets, and only told how to think and what to do, are practising impersonalism (personality spiritual suicide) to a genuine Vaisnava devotee.

Freedom of self-expression (free-will) MUST exist in the spiritual world for the eternal individual jiva-souls and allowed by Kṛṣṇa to permit and encourage the individual jiva-souls to voluntarily express themselves in a particular service they choose to do, and NOT chosen for them by Krsna. 

Each individual jiva-soul eternally has their own unique independent unique personality that allows them to forever voluntary expand their variety of devotional contributions to Krsna.  

Therefore, the individual jiva-souls always choose for themselves how they want to serve Krsna, or even reject Krsna if they want. Without such freedom, then genuine voluntary loving exchanges and reciprocation with Krsna can NEVER exist.

If Krsna denied the individual jiva-souls their freedom of expression (free-will), which is personal voluntary contributions, then their existence as a unique meaningful PERSON has no meaning at all, making them no better than dead useless stone or lifeless matter or mindless puppets always controlled by the dictates of an impersonal puppeteer.

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes).

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

The paradox here is the individual jiva-souls have their independence and free will too.

In other words, each individual jiva-soul has their own unique personality and character always separate and independent from Krsna's Personality. 

Therefore, even though Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, and all living entities are fully dependent on Krsna, the paradox here is the individual jiva-souls have their unique freedom too.

Free will only has meaning when the individual jiva-souls can express themselves in a "two-sided" voluntary affair loving exchanges.

In other words, loving reciprocation is only possible in a "two-way" exchange with both the individual jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa both contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows of devotional service. 

Yes, loving exchanges are only eternally possible on a "two-way street."

The word "reciprocation" only has meaning when there are two involved, not one! Free will only has meaning when the individual jiva-souls can express themselves in an open "two-sided" loving affair without being manipulated, used or bullied in anyway.

Also being able to reject Krsna proves that "free will" does truly exist.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will." (Philosophy Discussions with Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Having free will (freedom of expression) is the eternal constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (jiva-soul), and is the foundation for the individual jiva-soul's voluntary relationship with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupāda – ''Love means a relationship between "two persons", then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Even though Krsna allows the "freedom of expression" the individual jiva-souls have, it is really for His amusement, to see what they do with their eternal freedom of expression. 

Krsna at all times always has genuin eternal loving affection for His individual jiva-soul expansions (devotees) far more than they can ever have for Him. 

Yes, Krsna allows "free will" just to see what happens when the individual jiva-souls are given the freedom to voluntary make their own choices and decisions. 

Krsna always remains the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes and all that is happening is also His divine plan.

Just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays cannot exist separately from each other, similarly Krsna cannot exist separately from His variety living entities (Visnu-tattvas,  Siva-tattva and Sakti-tattva and other parts and parcels), including the marginal living entities jiva-tattva (individual jiva-souls).

Each individual eternal jiva-soul (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind independent individual with their own unique personality different from Krsna's Personality, and from all other individual jiva-souls too.

Loving devotional service to Krsna is always is based on a "two-way" voluntary exchange of personal cooperative feelings manifesting as loving acts of devotion between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who go on too voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions (offerings) to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will that does not deny the free will and voluntary offerings of each individual jiva-soul.

On the other hand, when actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering forceful mood from a "so called God or His representative" in His Kingdom that denies personal voluntary contributions expressed in a "two-way" exchange of feelings and cooperation, only leaves the individual jiva-souls no better than dead useless stone explained above by Srila Prabhupada.

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed by only one, there must be two. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - ''The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, that independence has to be accepted, little independence, we CAN misuse that."(Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976).*×*.













There is only one category of marginal living entities know as the individual jiva-souls however, the individual jiva-souls can exist in "two different ways", both considered to be eternal, but only while the individual jiva-soul is in that position.

Both the spiritual world, which is 75% of the Spiritual Sky, and the material world, which is 25% of the Spiritual Sky, are eternal. 

1 - The individual jiva-souls can be nitya-baddha, which means being temporarily conditioned in the "active" material world, or "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti.

2 - Or nitya-siddha which means being eternally liberated, if they choose, in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana. 

Srila Prabhupada – "The answer to your question about the marginal energy is that the jiva-soul is always called the marginal energy whether he is in the spiritual world or in the material world." (Letter to Rayarama, Dec 2, 1968)

This point is emphasised here to make it clear only one kind of jiva-soul exists and due to having free will, can choose to be either nitya-siddha or nitya-baddha. 

The eternal individual jiva-souls can be either (by choice) nitya-siddha (liberated in the spiritual world if they choose which can be eternally) or nitya-baddha (conditioned in the material world, or impersonal brahmajyoti if they choose however, both these conditions are temporary)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka. When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated nitya-siddha." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "There are two kinds of marginal living entities: nitya-siddha (un-conditioned in the spiritual world) and nitya-baddha (conditioned in the active material world, or inactive in the impersonal brahmajyoti). The actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity is nitya-siddha." (CC, lecture, July 13, 1976) 

Srila Prabhupada - "By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can become AGAIN nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha." (New York City Temple Lecture CC, July 13, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha, to bring them to their original position. It is a difficult task." (London lecture BG, 13-14, July 14, 1973)**









Wednesday, December 11, 2024

Srila Prabhupada – “If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life.” (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

The fact is, mindless impersonal forced so called "surrender" to a God, Spiritual Master, teacher, husband or any leadership without being encouraged, nurtured and taught how to voluntary contribute to the relationship in a "two-way" exchange of personal caring unique inter relationship co-operation, is dangerous selfish impersonalism and suicidal cult mentality.

Especially the primitive barbaric nonsense silly teachings a wife must be the slave of her husband that only fools preach. 

The individual jiva-souls must be encouraged and nurtured to only participate in a "two-way" reciprocal relationship of respectful exchanges with Krsna and His pure devotees, where the aspiring devotee is always encouraged by the bonafide spiritual teacher to come to the platform of voluntary personal selfless contribution's of loving devotional service. 

Mindless surrender in a “one-sided” loveless dictatorship is nonsense impersonalism and dangerous.

Such impersonal dominant relationships, where the individual jīva-soul’s personality and character are artificially restricted and suppressed by always being told what to do without personal input, and not being allowed to think for themselves, only extinguishes the jiva-soul's spiritual identity, individuality, self expression and personality.

Such Mayavadi (impersonal)  teachings of attempting to extinguish "free will" in the name of surrender is spiritual suicide!!

Under such impersonal conditions of being denied the spiritual right of self determination, the individual jiva-soul's natural constitution of self-expression, that allows them to choose for themselves what to contribute or offer to Kṛṣṇa, is replaced by a "one-way" emotionless forceful demands of being told what to do, what to offer and how to think.

No, the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are NOT loveless, mindless, devoid of voluntary individual contributions or impersonal in way like like that.

Srila Prabhupada – “We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love.” (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada  - “Also free will means that you can act wrongly if you choose. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will.”

Hayagriva dasa – “A man may know better but still act wrongly.”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will.” (Excerpt: Discussions on Rene Descartes philosophy)

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – “The impersonalist philosophy is oneness so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant.” (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – “Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation.” (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

The relationship with Krsna in the spiritual world (The Kingdom of God) is NEVER a “one-way” forced unproductive loveless affinity.

The individual jiva-soul's  relationship with Krsna is always based on free will, voluntary cooperation and cooperative contributions. This "two-way exchange" allows an unlimited variety of unique creative personal offerings of service to Krsna that deepens, expands and adds mystery to one's relationship with Krsna.

Only then can genuine loving exchanges truly exist when it is based on a two-way exchange of feelings.

Śrīla Prabhupāda – “Love means "two-persons," I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, then these things must be there.” (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

The individual jiva-souls, as their full potential of bodily spiritual form on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever positively re-inventing themselves by always choosing how to forever increase their variety of voluntary contributions (service) to Krsna.

This is achieved by forever positively discovering a variety of loving ways to expand their individual expression of personal offerings to Krsna in their perpetual unique intimate relationship with Him.

Such a relationship with Krsna is never impersonal, which means one-sided or a one-way dictatorship  because Krsna always co-operates by reciprocating with genuine loving affection with His devotees in a “two-way” exchange of loving emotions.

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Real love (service) is voluntary and can never exist on a “one-way" impersonal path because love can only exists when "two" are involved in voluntary reciprocal contributing loving exchanges.  

Surrender to Krsna does not mean eliminating your individual identity, personality, sense of self and denying self-expression and voluntary offerings through free will, no, such a mindless "one-sided" existence only allows a none-contributing stagnant loveless impersonal version of so called surrender to Krsna (God)

This kind of mindless (emotionless) so called surrender only extinguishes the individual jiva-soul's independent spirit of self expression, individuality, free-will and their ability to voluntary contribute and provide individual offerings to Radha and Krsna.

From personal voluntarily self chosen contributions offered by the individual jiva-souls that are different from Krsna's shower of loving affection, makes the relationship with Krsna a two-way mystery of exchanges that only further enriches, intensifies and expands loving exchanges and affection between the jiva-souls and Krsna.

Such personal unique contributions from the jiva-soul's independent expressions coming from their free will, forever expands their personal ability to make voluntary offerings that forever increase their loving emotions for Krsna in a healthy "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation.

Genuine loving exchanges or service is always a "two-way" street, it is never a "one-way" or a one-sided affair because as said above, relationships expressed in a "one-sided" dominance without having mutal loving respectful exchanges between two, is not love at all, it is cold impersonalism.

Loving service can only really again exist when the conditioned jīva-souls in the material world in the rare human form of life are trained up by the Spiritual Master to eventually reach their full potential as Kṛṣṇa’s pure devotees, where they can again express the full potential of their constitutional right as a marginal living entity (jiva-soul) who reciprocates fully with Kṛṣṇa in a two-way relationship loving exchanges in the spiritual world.

Only then can love or service be genuinely expressed in its natural two-way relationship based on reciprocal exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jīva-souls.

Kṛṣṇa gave the individual jīva-souls their freedom (free will) for this purpose to establish a two-way voluntary relationship, just so they can express their personal unique loving feelings too, experienced differently from Krsna by each individual jīva-soul in their unique relationship with Krsna.

The fact is, real freedom, or experiencing the full potential of one's unique independent personality, is only fully experienced in Goloka Vṛndāvana and on the Vaikuṇṭha planets, where no jiva-soul is forced to do anything in both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana they do not choose to do because all service on the spiritual planets are voluntary and never forced or demanded.

The reason why the spiritual worlds are like this, is all loving relationship with Kṛṣṇa are never founded on Him forcing His demands of obedience or even viewpoints on the individual jiva-souls. The jiva-souls must voluntary choose for themselves only then can loving exchanges and mutual respect exist between Krsna and His devotees.

A relationship where a devotee is always told what to do, how to think and how to act, and to only just obey without personal voluntary contributions (offerings) and intelligent inquiry, only makes the jiva-souls no better than dead stone and is impersonalism.

Krsnà (God) is the source of all things, nothing can operate or exist separate from Krsna, not a blade of grass can move without the will of the Lord.

However, the paradox here is the individual jiva-souls have their independence and free will too, each jiva-soul has their own unique personality and character separate from Krsna's Personality. 

Therefore, even though Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes and all living entities are fully dependent on Krsna, the paradox here is the individual jiva-souls have their unique freedom too.

Such freedom must exist for the individual jiva-souls, so they can express their own unique independent nature by choosing for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krsna, or even not serve Him at all if they choose.

Without such freedom, that even includes rejecting Krsna, then genuine loving exchanges and reciprocation with Krsna can never exist.

If Krsna denied the individual jiva-souls their free will, then their existence has no meaning at all and the eternal jiva-souls would be no better than dead stone or lifeless matter.

The eternal original spiritual bodily form of the individual jiva-soul (marginal living entity), is a two armed spiritual bodily form like Krsnas. 

However, the individual jiva-souls can voluntarily change their form in unlimited ways over their eternal existence.

The eternal natural original spiritual bodily form of the individual jiva-soul is not impersonal, it is personal like Krsna's two-armed spiritual Bodily form, the individual jiva-souls can also change their bodily form according to pastime.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world how one appears there and serves there is always voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Kṛṣṇa as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, and become flower, voluntarily. And he can change from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Kṛṣṇa as cow, he serves Kṛṣṇa as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. Ye yathā mām prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham (BG 4.11). That is Kṛṣṇa's all-powerfulness, spiritual life." (Lecture SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1, Melb, Australia May 21, 1975)

A Loving servitude relationship with Krsna is always based on a "two-way" reciprocal exchange of personal co-operative feelings and emotions. 

We always hear we must surrender to Krsna and serve Him without any desire for reward. In actual fact, Kṛṣṇa serves His devotees far, far more than they can EVER serve Him!