Thursday, August 23, 2018

Is the material universe, including all material bodies, continually repeating their existence?

There are those who believe the material universe is continuously repeating itself each time Maha Vishnu creates the material Brahmanda universes, but is that true?

Actually, it only "seems" that way because everything that is, and can be, already exists within the dreams of Maha Vishnu.

This means the material universe, including all bodily vessels, is continuously existing with an endless flow of individual jiva souls possessing those material bodies (passing through them)

Therefore it only "seems" the material universe is repeating itself when in actual fact it isn't.

This is because each material vessel or container eternally exists within the material dreams of Maha Vishnu, and is therefore a permanent "post" that "always" exists as a pathway for visiting souls to simply travels through while in the material creation.

Remember all these material bodily containers ARE coming from the dreams of Maha Vishnu.

It is therefore the souls that move through the journey of material existence in a material body experiencing its birth, youth, middle age, disease, old age decline and decay, and its death and rebirth if one fails in getting out of this temporary material mundane world of repeated birth and death.

Being in a material bodily vessel or container, is like one who travels on a pathway or road that leads to a destination. The fact is, these "pathways" have always existed that many others have experienced and many more will experience (the journey of material bodily containers or vessels)

This is what is really happening in the material creation instead of eternal repetition.

Material existence is always moving through time (past, present and future) from its creation to annihilation (birth, youth, disease, old age, death) of material bodies.

This process "seemingly repeats" itself again and again when the material universe is created again by Maha Vishnu but that is NOT what is going on.

The fact is, in reality the material bodily vessels are a permanent fixture or post existing "within" the dreams of Maha Vishnu that jiva souls simply move through, like one moves on a roadway or path.

Another way of looking at this -

Just like there always exists a fancy dress shop in society where one can go and rent costumes to expeience a particular play, similarly, every material bodily vessel conceivable exists in Maha Vishnu's "fancy dress shop of material costumes that one can rent if they desire" (From within His dreams that are available for all jiva-souls to rent).

Therefore each time the material universe is again created or manifests, a different batch of jiva-souls enters that pathway of material bodily vessels (costumes that cover the soul)

The fact is, like costumes in a fancy dress rental shop, all bodily vessels in the material universe are a permanent fixture within Maha Vishnu's dream of material creation.

The fact is, each material bodily "costume" is a permanent "post" within Maha Vishnu's dream of material existence that provides the experiences of birth, youth, disease, old age and death,

These material vessels or costumes always remains the property of Maha Vishnu's dreams

The cycle of material existence from creation to decay continues on eternally with the continuous flow of souls appearing in each material body at the beginning of that material bodies creation and experience its journey through to its annihilation or demise.

In other words, each time the universe is created and "seemingly" repeats itself, a different batch of soul takes the "post" or that material bodily vessel from Maha Vishnu's dreams.

Therefore, the next time around (the next material creation created by Maha Vishnu), all the exact same material bodily vessels will again exist, but with a new batch of jiva-souls in them.

This means within each material bodily vessel, exists a different soul playing that part, different from the previous occupant who played that exact same roll in the previous material creation.

This means the material universe "seems" to eternally be repeating it's self, but in actual fact it is fixed.

This is also called "Eternal repetition" meaning the MATERIAL universe exists again and again throughout all material time.

However, remember the "soul" is NOT the material bodily vessel.

The material body is only like a garment and the soul is a passenger in that garment or riding in the material body.


4 comments:

  1. news/science/2018-09-02/block-universe-theory-time-past-present-future-travel/10178386

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  2. Souls fall down from Vaikuntha and then enter the material universe managed by Maha Vishnu, they then enter His dreams and take a suitable material bodily vessel that satisfies their desires.

    No jiva souls originate from Maha Vishnu or His dreams of the material creation, all fall to the material world and enter His dreams and takes a material body from Maha Vishnu according to their desires.

    Those not qualified to go back to Vaikuntha at the end of each material creation, remain stored in the Body of Maha Vishnu dormant or inactive until the next material creation.

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  3. https://www.facebook.com/VedicCosmology/posts/one-can-fall-down-from-vaikuntha-at-anytime-if-they-choose-srila-prabhupada-said/1925345237773399/

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  4. Srila Prabhupada explains here why some souls CAN fall down from Vaikuntha if they choose to do so.

    The following Conversation took place in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples.

    Devotee – “When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krishna, we have a perfect relationship with Krishna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already serving Krishna?”

    Srila Prabhupada – “Because you desire to fall down. Here it is explained that “Don’t fall down.”

    Devotee – “Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving…”

    Srila Prabhupada – “Because you have got little freedom. It is his desire".

    Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come, why are we here?”

    Srila Prabhupada – “Yes. You forced Krishna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your risk. That’s all. And you suffer. What can be done?” Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, free will, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got "little independence". So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist that “I must go and enjoy independently,” so God says, “All right, you can go.” This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy”. End

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