Monday, June 9, 2025

Genuine loving devotional service to Krsna is only possible in a "two-way" cooperative exchange of feelings that manifest in loving acts of reciprocation and mutual returns between Krsna and His pure devotees.

The highest love means both Krsna and His devotees serve each other without any desire for returns or reward, infact even though it is said the individual jiva-souls are Krsna's eternal servants in their full potential, the fact is Krsna serves His pure devotees far more than they can ever serve Him.

Krsna is the most selfless, the most humble, the most forgiving, the most serving.

We tend to forget how loving Krsna is to His pure devotees, for every step the devotee makes towards Krsna, He makes a thousand towards them.

Krsna's love for His devotees is inconceivable and deeply personal.

The devotees voluntarily contribute their own service and offerings individually unique to each of them, in response to Krsna's love and attention He showers them with. 

These kinds of selfless loving expressions are given in return because of Krsna's love, affection, protection and attention towards them.

This is the meaning and foundation of the word devotion, which is the real act of choosing to surrender to Krsna's will.

The simple understanding is this, if you love another, then you will always voluntarily do nice things for them, serve them and those they love.

On the other hand, for free will to have meaning, the individual jiva-souls (devotees) can also completely reject Krsna if they choose.

This "two-way" scenario is sanctioned by Krsna so free will can truly exist, otherwise if it was only "one-sided" with demands that the devotees must serve Krsna without loving contributions and exchanges, then free will would have no meaning.

Without the basic devotional, standard of having loving voluntary exchanges with Krsna or Visnu on a "two-way" cooperative street, then there can never be genuine love or voluntary service in one's relationship with Krsna.

Emotions expressed from only one individual person without the acknowledgement and acceptance of a second individual person, who also contribute to the decision making with their personal contributions, is known as impersonalism.

For love to exist, there must be a "two-way exchange" of feelings that expands, enriches and adds meaning, allowing a two-sided relationship to florish. 

The fact is, loving affection, sentiment and exchanges can only be experienced between two, where giving and receiving is possible that allows mutual reciprocation. 

Each jiva-soul (individual living units of anti-matter) known as Krsna's marginal energy, are singular one of a kind individual persons, who each have their own unique personality and spiritual bodily form, different from all other personalities, including Kṛṣṇas. 

There are no two individual jiva-souls who are the same, and no individual jiva-soul can ever be equal to Krsna (God), the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, who is simultaneously an individual Person, and is all-one (all-pervasive) with His spiritual and material creations. 

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana are not a dictatorial "one-way" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding dictatorship that denies individual personal voluntary contributions due to Krsna doing all the thinking and decision making for you. No, the spiritual planets are not impersonal or emotionally stagnant like that.

The fact is, on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana (the Kingdoms of God) there are always loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions based on "free will", and loving enriching reciprocation going on between Krsna and His devotees because without these attributes there can never be love.

Love can never exist with just one, there must be two so loving exchanges can be shared.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Therefore, loyalty is always a "two-way" street where the individual jiva-souls have their own unique personality seperate from Krsna's Personality, who are able to add their own personal unique expressions into the relationship with Kṛṣṇa that expands and forever enhances and enriches one's friendship with Krsna. 

Krsna will never "force" His devotee to do what he/she does not voluntary choose to do on the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, because they are not Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who are controlled in every way like a puppet master impersonally controls his puppets with the manipulation of strings. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So, surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is not impersonal, where the individual jiva-souls loses their free will (freedom of expression) that allows them to participate in a meaningful relationship by choose as an individual person they are eternally, on how they want to participate in voluntary service to Krsna, where the relationship with Kṛṣṇa is a two-way reciprocal exchange of loving emotions. 

Therefore, surrendering to Krsna does not mean you have to give up your intelligence, free will, personality, individuality and voluntary service and just be told how to think and perform all duties with no personal contributing participation. No, that type of "surrender" is impersonalism. 

Each individual jiva-soul needs to be nurtured to the top most platform by developing the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person who can voluntary serve Krsna eternally.

The spiritual worlds are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless totalitarian place for the individual jiva-souls, where they only obey the "supreme leader" and told how to act and think. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not impersonal like that in anyway, there is always voluntary loving exchanges of feelings and emotions going on, that are based on loving reciprocation between between two, between Krsna and His pure devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotee want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, and become a flower, voluntarily. And one can change from flower to any bodily form including human body, that is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

One's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom is never a one sided master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as explained above, Prabhupada is telling us here.

The individual jiva-souls in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever voluntarily expanding their unique expressions of service with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings made possible because of free will.

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

The fallen individual jiva-souls can also reside "inactively" in the impersonal brahmajyoti for a very, very, very long time (Millions of life times of Lord Brahma who lives for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years), however, they can NEVER remain "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti eternally, eventually they fall from there too and take birth in the temporary material world.

This is because the nature of the individual jiva-souls is to always be "active," either in their original home in the spiritual world, or in the temporary material world confined to transmigrating through 8 million 400 thousand species of material life (material bodily forms), that they again constantly try to be liberated from because of so much frustration, pain suffering. 

In other words, the impersonalists want their identity and personality permanently extinguished (spiritual suicide) because of so much pain and suffering they experience while trapped in cycle of birth and death in the material world. But permanent cessation of active existence is not possibe. 

In fact, not even Kṛṣṇa, Visnu or Siva can grant this foolish attempted spiritual suicide (to achieve permanent inactivity) by the fallen individual jiva-souls. 

This is because, as said above, the eternal nature of the individual jiva-souls in their original position and full potential in the spiritual world, is to be eternally fully "active" in Krsna or Visnu's pastimes.

Srila Prabhupāda - "Existence in the impersonal brahman (being inactive and identity extinguished) is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness and is also only a temporary condition (because the nature of the soul is to be always active in Krsna's pastimes.) Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in a fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana dasa, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

There is one benediction Krsna, Visnu or Siva and their devotees can NEVER grant.

Many impersonalist are very knowledgeable, as said above, many know Kṛṣṇa is an eternal Person and is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, but do not follow Him, or have any desire to serve Him.

The impersonalist have great knowledge of the Vedas, especially Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 that tells them - "The individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless and therefore will NEVER die."

But they do not accept that and only ask one benediction from Visnu, which is to die and cease to exist! To come to an inactive ending and never again falling out of the inactive impersonal brahmajyoti.

They know that presently their impersonal beliefs allow them to enter the impersonal brahmajyoti, where they can remain for a trillion life times of Lord Brahma (He lives for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years) but eventually again falls down from the impersonal brahmajyoti to again take birth in the temporary material world.

The impersonalist do not want that rebirth in the material world because while "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti for a trillion life times of Brahma, there is no pain and suffering experienced life after life in the material world. The fallen individual jiva-souls want to no longer exists and be eternally "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti.

However, that is not possible, even billions of life times of Brahma is only a blink of an eye once the individual jiva-soul re-emerges from its impersonal slumber and again takes birth in the temporary material world, within a material bodily vessel.

So, these impersonalist (fallen individual jiva-souls who have now forgotten they were once Kṛṣṇa's devotee), now wants nothing do do with the Vaikuntha planets of Visnu/Narayana, or Krsna's central Abode of Goloka-Vrindavana, or the temporary material world of pain and suffering, ask Visnu to grant them (the individual jiva-soul) the benediction of permanent "death," and allow them to eternally reside in the "active" impersonal brahmajyoti that has no sense of individual self, no personality and no spiritual bodily form. 

They only want to appear eternally as an inactive individual impersonal "spark" hovering endlessly in the impersonal brahmajyoti.

In other words, the impersonalists want their identity, personality and spiritual bodily form eternally extinguished, they want to cease to exist which is really attempting to commit spiritual suicide. 

But Kṛṣṇa, Visnu or Siva can NEVER grant this silly attempt of spiritual suicide, because the eternal nature of the individual jiva-soul in their original position, is being beginningless and endless as a spiritual bodily form who is fully "active" serving Krsna or Visnu in the spiritual world. 

Only there on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana, is there no suffering, decay, birth or death.

These spiritual worlds are eternally youthful, and are the real home for the eternal individual jiva-souls.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also an individual person eternally as you are individual person eternally, I am individual person, but the difference between God and you and me is this, that you know your business, I know my business, but God knows everyone's business. That is the difference." (Lecture Melb, Australia April 3, 1972)

As explained above, real love, service or bhakti is reciprocal, it is never a "one-way street" where so called surrender to Krsna means only obeying without the choice of voluntary participation and personal contributions. 

Surrender to Krsna will never take away the devotee's individual freedom of choice on how they can voluntary provide a variety of unique personal contributions (offering) to Krsna when ever they want.

Each individual jiva-soul (devotee) has their own independent personality (yet always dependent on Krsna), but separate from Krsna's Personality.

This means they have their own sense of independent identity, of being a unique free thinking person that each individual jiva-souls have.

Meaning each individual jiva-soul has their own unique personality, or a strong sense of a singular unique identity).  

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva soul) making each of them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.

Free will in its full potential, is only fully experienced on the Vaikuntha planets and on Goloka-Vrindavan, which are the individual jiva-souls original perpetual home.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly, that is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means we have free will."

Hayagriva dasa - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is his free will, he misuses his free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad, but still he does it, that is his free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing, he knows he will be eventually punished, he knows; he has seen other thieves get caught and punshed and put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada and devotees on Rene Descartes philosophy)

Vipina Purandara - "Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand to them, "You love me, you love me, you love me!" Is it love? "You love me, otherwise I will kill you!" Is that love?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Krsna does not want followers who deny others their right to choose for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna, by offering their own unique personal contributions, or even rejecting Krsna if they choose as Prabhupada explains.

There is always a choice and that is why "free will" always exists in God's Kingdom, otherwise surrendering to Krsna without having the individual choice of to voluntary serve Him in the way they choose, makes the jiva-souls (devotees) mindless impersonal porns with no personality, making them no better than dead emotionless stone.

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges and cooperation between Krsna and His devotees, it is never a "one-way" demanding forceful dictatorial relationship.  

Ultimately, we are all Krsna's servants and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our free will and individual identity to be Krsna's friend and servant.

Free will has always existed in Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavana, and on Visnu/Narayana's Vaikuntha planets, and has eternally been part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul).

And yes, Krsna always allows free will because wants to experience a two-way voluntary relationship with His devotees and feel the loving exchanges, cooperation, participation and reciprocation with them.

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval the individual jiva-souls have everything including their free will. 

Everything there is, known or unknown, within or without, dreamed and not yet dreamed, exists in Krsna.

Therefore, Krsna is everything and nothing exists outside of Him because there is nothing outside of Krsna, He is everything there is, within and without.

Krsna is the ultimate source and sustainer of all creation, encompassing both the manifested universe and whatever existence that is not yet manifest or realized. 

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

As said above, if Krsna denied the individual jiva-soul's there free will, then they are no better than dead mindless stone.

Without free will the individual jiva-souls can never experience loving exchanges, participation, nor experience emotions and feelings for others because ultimately love is a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings only experienced when there is voluntary contributions in a two-way exchange that can only work when there is free will. 

Genuine love can never be experienced in a "one-way" totally controlled environment run by Krsna or anyone. Such impersonal control of an individual is called slavery.

Emotions expressed in a "one-way" mood without any exchange between ,"two" is not love at all, it is selfishness, and is really dangerous impersonalism.

Therefore, without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva soul will never experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and their personal unique offerings of individual contributions to Krsna 

As Prabhupada says, without "free will" we are no better than dead stone!

Free will or the ability to choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and always exists without beginning or end in all the spiritual planets.

As said above, free will in its full potential only exists on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, which are our original perpetual home from where we originated from.

As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls is never a "one-sided" domineering dictatorial autocracy, where the individual jiva-souls are denied their personal contributions, and having the choice in how they want to serve Krsna, but instead told what to do and think.

No, proper loving relations are ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there are two exchanging loving devotion for each other, as Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately, each individual jiva-soul is a unique person as a spiritual bodily form, who can choose for themselves how they want to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him. 

As Prabhupada explains here, Krsna never forces the individual jiva-souls to mindlessly surrender to Him, never forces them to love Him, that MUST be voluntary so loving exchanges and mutual cooperation can exist on a two-way street. This also means one must choose for themselves how they want to serve Krsna, or even not serve Him at all, there is always a choice.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary. Love is reciprocal, good exchange of feeling, then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?" Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence, that is force. In Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand you love me, you love me, you love me, otherwise I will kill you, is that love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love?" So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver - "You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).

The individual jiva-souls on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever expanding their expression of individual contributions with personal offerings based on free will, inspired by selfless loving exchanges and  reciprocation with Krsna, it is never a one-sided master/slave relationship with God in His Kingdom.

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own autonomous personality that is separate from Krsna's Personality, having their own sense of independent self, and unique characteristics that each individual jiva-soul uniquely has, meaning no two other individual jiva-souls are the same. 

Each jiva-soul is a unique individual with their own personality and exclusive spiritual bodily form. 

All these qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) make up in the spiritual worlds as the independent unique "PERSON" they are eternally.

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. So God does not interfere with your independence." (Conversation Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Having the attributes of being an eternal PERSON as a spiritual bodily form similar to Krsna's Body, also includes having the free will to voluntary serve Krsna the way the devotee chooses to serve.

And never in the way impersonalist leadership demands, with their cold autocratic dictates that denies all personal contributions and voluntary involvement.  

Krsna does not want to be surrounded those "mindless puppets" who have no individual creative offerings of their own making to voluntary contribute to Krsna because they wrongly believe surrender means being totally controlled by a puppet master (their version of Krsna) and like that puppet, only told what to offer and how to think. No, real personal surrender to Krsna is not impersonal like that.

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotee want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, and become a flower, voluntarily. And one can change from flower to any bodily form including human body, that is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)///











In Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2, it is explained that the "individual life force" is a collective of individual living units of anti-matter, known as the "individual jiva-souls or marginal energy" headed by "Krsna the Supreme individual Person and maintainer of all that exists."

Furthermore, all individual jiva-souls, who have eternally existed, are a spiritual bodily form (non-material) in their real home in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Krsna’s top most Abode of Goloka-Vrindavana as the Lord's eternal volunteer servants.

Like Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, the individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless, they have never came into being at some point because Krsna and the individual jiva-souls have always existed.

Modern material scientists of the 21st century, cosmologists, Astrophysicists, Archologist and many modern day historians have all got it all wrong.

They have not understood the temporary material universe's real origins, and have no idea what the individual life force (anti-matter), known as the jiva-souls, really is. 

Furthermore, individual eternal life is not an "all-one" all-pervasive consciousness that only has form when embodied in a material bodily container.

No! The living force (anti-matter) which is a collective of eternal individual jiva-souls or Krsna's marginal energy, are individual PERSONS as a spiritual bodily form, who each have their own unique individuality, personality, identity, and a separate independent existence from all other individual jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa.

This understanding of the eternal living individual life forms, and understanding what is dead matter, must be also properly understood. 

As explained above, the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) were never created, they are eternal PERSONS like Krsna without a beginning or ending that lasts for infinity. 

Krsna and the eternal individual jiva-souls are just like the Sun-disc (Krsna and His direct Visnu-tattva expansions) and the sun-rays (the individual jiva-souĺs who are Krsna's separated expansions) who eternally exist together. 

The sun-rays are compared to the eternal individual jiva-souls, and the Sun-disc is compared to Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. 

The sun-rays are always dependent on the Sun-disc and both eternally exist together. 

Similarly, even though the individual jiva-souls have their own independent nature and free will, still they always remain fully dependent on Krsna (a paradox) because everything is Krsna and nothing is seperate from Krsna's absolute control.

It is important to understand thst the individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS as a spiritual bodily FORM, who can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished due to them being indestructible.

Srila Prabhupada - "If God is not an individual Person, then how did His sons become individual personalities? If your father is a total emptiness, if he is not an individual person, then how did you become an individual person? If your father doesn't have a uniform, how did you get one? These questions are based on common sense and basic logic; there is nothing difficult here to understand. 

Unfortunately, people who are disappointed in material existence either try to come up with a form of God or conclude that because material form is temporary and causes a lot of suffering, God must not have any form at all. 

According to their logic,since all forms in the material world are absorbent, God is likely to be formless. The Brahma-Samhita especially emphasizes that this notion is wrong. 

Ishwarah paramah krsna, sat-chit-ananda-vigraha. 

God (Krsna) has a form. His form is sat-chit-ananda-vigraha. 

1 - Sat means "eternal," 

2 - chit means "knowledge,"  

3 - ananda means “bliss"

4 - vigraha means spiritual bodily form, His form is eternal and full of knowledge and bliss." (A path to perfection, Ch 3 The Science of Contemplation of God)

Only the temporary material bodily vessel (matter) the active individual eternal jiva-soul (anti-matter) is in, decays and wears out and breaks down into material elements then merges back into the "oneness" of inactive (lifeless) material energy.

All individual jīva-souls are eternal persons, there are no new individual jiva-souls ever being created because they have always existed.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the material body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

The individual jiva-souls are a living unique collective of anti-matter living entities, marginal energy, as PERSONS in the form of individual spiritual bodies who are beginningless and endless and therefore indestructible as described above..<_>..









The first Travelling Temple Double Decker Bus was purchased in October 1971 and traveled all over Australia begining in July 1972.

This is a story of those early great days of pioneering Sankirtan in Australia.

For some of us, those early years were the best days of our devotional life in ISKCON.

The World's First Travelling Hare Krishna Temple.

It was at 83 Hereford Street Glebe Temple near the Sydney University in early July 1972 we began our first preaching mission on our Travelling Temple Hare Krishna Bus in Northern Australia.

ISKCON in Australia had only been going for just 2 years, starting in March 1970 by the late Upananda dasa and the late Bali madana dasa who arrived in Sydney from San Francisco USA.

By July 1972 there was about 55 devotees in Australia in two Temples, Sydney and Melbourne.

In July 1972 from Sydney a third Temple was established on a Double Decker Bus.

On the Temple Bus there were 14 devotees, young boys and girls mostly still in their teens.

Although in July 1972 that late Madhudvisa Swami was 24 years old and Balarama was the oldest at 29 years old.

We had written in big letters on the side-

"The Hare Krishna Movement, The Positive Alternative."

We were spreading the mission of Lord Caitanya for the first time on Australian soil.

So we left Sydney Temple for the trip of a lifetime, we came to believe that we had probably taken us thousands of life times to achieve such a privilege. We were on the very first preaching mission to every Towns and Villages around Australia.

The devotees on this first travelling preaching mission were:

The late Madhudvisa Swami,

Caru (only came part of the way),

Balarama,

The late Yasomatinandana,

Dvaipayana, the cook,

Ted Spencer who the previous year was the world champion for surfboard riding,

The late Kuntiboja,

The late Kainaram,

Chittahari,

Srngi (Muralidhar das) meet up with in Cairns,

Krishna Prema dasa (meet up with in Cairns).

And me Gauragopala dasa, who shared Bus driving duties with Balarama, and also lead many kirtans playing mridanga.

The 'boys' (because that's what we were back then) lived in the Brahmacari's quarters, which were the bottom deck of the bus (except for the bus drivers who had a private space upstairs), while the second deck (upstairs) was the Brahmacharini or girls quarters, they are:

Ambika,

Kamarupa (who joined us in Cairns)

Sukla devi-dasi.

Elaine Mitchell also joined us there in the Commune at Kuranda near Cairns.

Most of us where teenagers back then except for Madhudvisa Swami, Balarama and Ted Spencer.

Ted Spencer was world surfing champion, he was 19 when he won his first Bell at Bells Beach in 1968 and again in 1969. 

He famously declared - "When I surf, I dance for Krishna", urged on in his heats by a full Hare Krishna cheer squad." (Bells Beach, Australia - the Age Newspaper). 

Other famous surfers like Nat Young also spent time with us when we arrived in Brisbane.

It was on this bus trip we hear that Siddhasvarupa Swami (Chris Butler) was preaching the soul originated from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti, he had heard this from some of Prabhupada's Godbrothers in the Gaudiya Math.

This created the ''origin of the jiva'' controversy that went on over the next few months.

The idea that we originated from the impersonal Brahman was quickly rejected in a letter from Prabhupada called ‘'Crow-And-Tal-Fruit Logic'' that eventually was sent to all Temple Presidents in Australia and the World.

It was a very hot topic back then in 1972 but Prabhupada was personally present to guide us with what is now a famous letter denying the foolish nonsense we all originated from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti.

We all knew this was a very auspicious time in history in 1972 and being part of something very special, we felt blessed to be at the very beginnings of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement. 

We just new that the teachings of Srila Prabhupada we were hearing, was the revelation of a long kept secret and explanations that told us about the vast universe and it's creator Lord Krishna.

As we travelled up North we chanted and distributed Magazines for the first time on the streets of the City Newcastle and then all Towns in-between Sydney and Brisbane,

Kempsey,

Port Macquarie,

Foster,

Bellingen,

Coffs Harbour,

Nambacca,

Grafton,

Ballina,

Murwillumbah,  

Lismore,

Nimbin the hippie centre of Australia,

Lennox Head,

Byron Bay.

By far the spookiest place we went to was Byron Bay; Kainaram claimed he had seen the ghost of a dead girl who had been killed by a train many years ago. 

On many occasions he said people had said they picked up this lonely little girl to take her home, only to find when they got to there home she had mysteriously disappeared. People would go up to the house to tell the little girls parents only to find she had died many years before. 

Obviously, it was just an urban legend and our simplistic very young immature minds were intrigued with Madhudvisa Swami told us. He used this story to preach to us the difference between the subtle material body and gross material body.

After Byron Bay with all the hippies there, we went to Murwillumbah where we chanted in the streets for the first time. Soon, in May 1977, (5 years later) we would establish the farm New Govardhana there.

We then visited Tweed Heads and Coolangatta, two Towns on the border of NSW and Queensland on the Gold Coast, we chanted there for two hours handing out "Back To Godhead Magazines," then went to Tugan, Burleigh heads, Broadbeach, Surfers Paradise and Southport.

For the first time in Australian history, we chanted in all these places, distributed Back To Godhead Magazine and Prasadam and spoke to the enormous crowds that gathered around watching us.

We stayed on the Gold Coast for four days then went inland to Armadale where there was a University. 

We meet an Indian Professor who invited us to the Uni where we chanted and distributed Prasadam. Many highly educated Indian families lived there and some of us went to their houses to speak from Bhagavad Gita As It Is.

Back in those days in 1972, only highly educated coloured people were allowed in Australia, who were only mostly Christian. 

At this time this "white Australia policy" was the law.

The Liberal Australian Government of that time only want to immigrated white Europeans to Australia from mainly the UK and Western Europe and did not want Africans, Chinese, Indians and other Asians to immigrate to Australia.

This is why no Indian devotees were in our Temples in Australia during the 1970s however, the Indians in Armidale were highly educated and wealthy. 

Some claimed to also be Christian (when they were really Hindus) but lied just so they could get into Australia.  

At the time all black people were mostly banned from entering Australian except for famous rich singers and entertainers like Sammy Davis Jr.

That's why in all photos from the 1970s of ISKCON Australia, you will see no back people or Indians at all, not even one living in the Temple. Only a few Indians and Asian came to the Sunday love feast. A few blacks sometimes turned up but they were Aboriginals.  

Today in 2025, it's the other way around, in Melbourne ISKCON,   99% of congregation are from Indian, unheard of in the 1970s because the white Australia racist policy that was eradicated in 1979.

HERE HERE HERE

As the night progressed, the Indian women cooked up some amazing food preparations that we offered to Srila Prabhupada. That place was very, very cold. Every morning, even in the middle of winter, we had cold showers behind the bus. To give one an idea, Balarama was walking to the bus one cold morning with what we thought was a board, but it was really his underwear (kopings) frozen solid!

We eventually arrived in Toowoomba in Queensland and chanted to the rednecks out back Queenslanders who thought we were some alien invasion from another planet!

Many of the devotees on the Bus, like Balarama and Ted Spencer where surfboard riders, they attracted many young people to learn about Krishna and take prasad. 

Especially Ted Spencer, as said above, who was a well-known celebrity around the world winning his first World Surfing title in 1968 at 19 years old.

We then left Armadale and headed back to the Gold Coast, to Beenleigh, in-between the Gold Coast and Brisbane. 

The day we arrived in Brisbane, we chanted on the city streets and were on page two of the Couramail Newspaper the next day.

The headline was "The Hare Krishna's have arrived with the chant of peace."

Brisbane was also having their annual "Royal Show" that attracted tens of thousands of peoples. We chanted out the front gates of the "Show grounds" where so many people saw the Hare Krishna's for the first time ever in Queensland, many receiving Back To Godhead Magazine.

It was there Nat Young, another famous surfer World Champion and friend of Ted Spencer joined us for a few days and become friends with Madhudvisa Swami who nicely preached to him about Krishna.

We never had the full version of the Gita in those days, only the abridged edition with the forward by Allen Ginsberg.

Those years were extraordinary. Dwaip cooked up beautiful offerings to Srila Prabhupada and Lord Caitanya and Nityananda while Balarama and myself were the Bus Drivers. 

We were all young inquisitive philosophers, especially asking about the "origin of the jiva-soul."

We just new we were very fortunate to be on that bus hearing such wonders of creation. Some of us asked 'what did we deserve to hear the Srimad Bhagavatam.

Some of us speculated we were yogis, mystics, devotees and even demons from the Satya-yuga. Madhudvisa Swami laughed and simply said 'It is by the causeless mercy of Lord Caitanya and Srila Prabhupada that the seeds of Bhakti are now sown in our hearts.

Madhudvisa Swami read from one of Prabhupada's original volumes of Srimad Bhagavatam Srila Prabhupada brought with him in 1965 to America, those classes were amazing, I personally learned so much about Krishna Consciousness in those wonderful classes.

In those days we would chant on the streets for 6 or 8 hours a day. One night at the showgrounds we chanted from 9 am to 10 pm (11 hours) because there where so many people there.

We chanted through all the Towns and cities as we proceeded up north to Cairns.

We went through Towns that include -

Bundaberg,

Mackay,

Hervey Bay where we had big feast with hundreds of curious locals attended, (the Americans call them rednecks, we call them yobbos).

Gladstone,

Rockhampton,

Hervey Bay,

Airlie beach,

Townsville, where we were on the front page of the main paper.

Actually all papers in all Towns were doing articles on us that kept us very busy doing interviews and arranging interviews with Madhudvisa Swami.

Then we arrived in Cairns near the top of Australia. We had travelled over 3,500 miles since we left Sydney in a Bus that went only 35 miles per hour or 60 Kilometres an hour in today's system. The change over from miles to Kilometres did happen until 1974.

At Kuranda, just 30 Kilometres or 17 miles outside of Cairns, Madhudvisa Swami lead a blissful kirtan through the hippie community and to our surprise many hundreds of them came out of the forest and joined us in a long procession.

Many dancing to the chanting of Hare Krishna were naked, some as young as 14 joined in chanting and dancing, never have I have seen anything like this before nor since. Those hippy days were amazing times.

Elaine Mitchell who was there has said on her experience-

"I was there at Kuranda in August/September 1972 and went on the Travelling Temple Bus to the Millaa Millaa Buddhist colony for the Janmastami (Krishna's Birthday). It was very special.

I had been going to the temple regularly before going to Cairns and I remember well, people were mostly naked in the commune when they went swimming although only a few guys used to get around naked all the time as I recall.

Most of the girls wore beautiful long hippie dresses or sarongs etc. My girlfriend and 8 or 9 other friends hitchhiked up from Melbourne together to be in Kuranda. I personally was quite chaste and wore nice clothing."(end) 

There was an explosion of devotees around the middle of 1972, the communes we went to in Australia were full of hippies and potential devotees at that time, we chanted through the forest areas and were like the pied piper and hundreds of hippies came out of the forest and followed us singing Hare Krishna.

Yes, there were hundreds of them at a place called Kuranda in Northern Queensland, it was truly amazing at that time, I have never ever seen anything like it since.

Even today, if you stand on the hill where all those hippies once gathered and chanted Hare Krishna, you can still see where the high water mark of transcendental bliss reached in the early 70s.

So now, 53 years later, you can go up on that steep hill in Kuranda and look down over the beautiful forest, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave of transcendental Hare Krishna Sankirtan bliss finally broke and rolled back.

Devotees before this 1972 Bus trip had never visited anywhere outside of Sydney or Melbourne. We were the pioneers at the very beginning of Lord Caitanya's Golden Age in Kali-yuga.

We celebrated Janmastami (Krishna's Birthday) at a Buddhist colony not far from Kuranda on 1 Sep 1972; we loaded as many hippies as we could in the double decker Hare Krishna bus, all chanting Hare Krishna and dancing 'on the bus' to the excellent blissful kirtans with Madhudvisa leading. IT WAS VERY SPECIAL.

The following day 2nd of September was Srila Prabhupada's Vyasa-puja and Madhudvisa Swami had lit a candle under Srila Prabhupada's photo, the aura, bliss, love and security from that photo permeated the entire bus with an amazing mood of reverence and Krishna Consciousness.

They were amazing days and there was a childish innocence about those days; In fact we thought Madhudvisa Swami was old (he just was 24 years old, Ted Spencer was 24 and Balarama was the oldest at 29). The rest of us where still teenagers or just 20 years old like me. 

The present generation I don't think realize how young we were in those beginning years of ISKCON.

There was also no hanky panky going on either back then in 1972, everyone was very sincere, very dedicated and very attached to Prabhupada.

We only honoured food offerings to the Deities and absolutely nothing else from outside the Temple, if it was not prepared on the Bus we would not eat it except on rare occasions at an Indians home as we did in Armadale (We had a beautiful photo of the Panca-tattva with a wonderful Photo of Prabhupada at their feet).

No one even dreamed of eating anything unprepared by devotees or even drink soft drinks in those blissful days.

End of Part 1 The World's First Travelling Hare Krishna Temple.






Friday, June 6, 2025

Surrender to Krsna does NOT mean the individual jiva-souls must abandon their free will and become Krsna's mindless eternal puppet, as photo reveals.

To deny free will, individuality, and the eternal independent nature of all jīva-souls, is impersonalism. 

The fact is, the individual jiva-souls are unique eternal persons who always serve Krsna voluntarily. 

1 - A real genuine teacher or guru, brings his students to the top most platform, where they have learned to think for themselves as independent contributing individual persons, who have learned the highest service is voluntarily serving Krsna the way they choose to serve Him. 

2 - And the bogus teacher, guru or sannyasi, will tell his naive students how they MUST think and act under his autocratic absolute control and demands, with no need for personal unique voluntary contributions to offer.

Because he does all the thinking for his disciples, telling them what to do and how to think like a puppet master manipulates his puppets, pulling the strings the way he wants, denying any individual voluntary contributions.

Such nonsense gurus (cult leaders) threaten anyone who questions their authority and interpretations of Vedic teachings. 

Those bogus leaders who do not bring the disciple up to the real devotional platform of personal voluntary service participation, by contributing to their relationship with Krsna in a variety of possible ways, instead of being always told what to, MUST be rejected.^



Tuesday, June 3, 2025

Love can never exist when there is just one, there must be two.

Each individual jiva-soul is a unique one of a kind individual person, with their own personality different from all other individual personalities.

In other words, no two individual jiva-souls are the same. 

Genuine loving devotional service to Krsna is only possible in a "two-way" cooperative exchange of voluntary feelings and choices, that only then can lead to loving acts of reciprocation and mutual returns.

Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls to be independent contributing persons in His creation who forever have free will.

The highest love means both Krsna and His devotees serve each other without any desire for returns or reward. 

In fact, even though it is said the individual jiva-souls are Krsna's eternal servants in their full potential, the fact is, Krsna serves His pure devotees far more than they can ever serve Him.

Krsna is the most selfless, the most humble, the most forgiving, the most serving, we tend to forget how loving Krsna is, to His pure devotees. 

For every step the devotee makes towards Krsna, Krsna makes a thousand towards them. Krsna's love for His devotees is inconceivable and deeply personal.

The devotees voluntarily contribute their services and offerings to Krsna, unique to each individual devotee in response to Krsna's love and attention He showers them with. 

These kinds of selfless loving expressions are given in return to Krsna because of Krsna's amazing love, affection, protection and the wonderful attention He always gives to His dear friends and companions, His loving devotees.

These forever expanding "two-way" loving expressions of feelings, emotions and exchanges going on between Kṛṣṇa and His pure devotees, is the real understanding and foundation of what love, devotion and surrendering to Krsna's will really is.

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love, love means there must be somebody else to share it with, love cannot be one, or cannot be executed by only one, there must be another one to share loving exchanges with. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction is complete, then there is love." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from them, but you don't give in return. Oh, do you think that is very good? No, it is not good, that is not love, it is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you and don't offer you anything in return, then that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already the lover, He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back home back to Godhead, that is Kṛṣṇa's attempt, "Please, My dear boy, girl or friend, My dear servant, please return home." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling, then there is love, not achieved by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Proper loving relations are voluntary and can never exist on a “one-way" path because love can only exists when "two" are involved in voluntary reciprocal contributing loving exchanges.

Krsna allows free will (voluntary self-expression) meant for the individual jiva-souls so they can experience their own unique individuality and voluntary participation in their relationship with Krsna, just so they can freely make their own contributions that they choose to offer to Him that forever expand loving exchanges and reciprocation in a "two-way" mood, and never just a "one-sided" mindless therefore  loveless dictatorship.

Ultimately in the spiritual world free will eternally exists because Krsna wants a "two-way" contributing open relationship with His devotees, therefore He always encourages self expression as unique personal contributions from His dear devotees.

This makes the relationship a forever expanding blissful "two-sided" exchange of loving emotions. The relationship with Krsna must be this way because love can never be experienced with just one, there must two, an open "two-sided" reciprocal relationship of mutual returns, cooperation and respect.

As explained above, real love or bhakti is reciprocal, and exists due to voluntary loving exchanges, it is never a one-sided domination where so called surrender to Krsna takes away the devotees individual freedom to voluntarily provide a variety of unique personal contributions (offerings) to Krsna, or even reject Krsna if they choose.

Therefore, each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, yet always simultaneously dependent on Krsna because Krsna is the Supreme God behind everything and therefore the cause of all causes. As Bhagavad Gita As It Is says-

 "Not a blade of grass can move without the will of the Lord."

The simple understanding is this, love is never possible with just one, for love to exist their must be two involved, if you love someone then you always do nice things for them and those they love.

This is only possible between two, the lover and the beloved and NEVER possible within a one-sided impersonal loveless existence. 

Love has no meaning with just one, there must be two experiencing the interactions of loving exchanges. 

On the other hand, for free will to have meaning (freedom of expression), the individual jiva-souls (devotees) can also completely reject Krsna if they choose to do so.

HERE HERE HERE HERE HERE 

The unique relationship between Krsna and His devotees is always a "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation, voluntary service and a loving cooperation that can NEVER be achieved in a "one-sided" autocracy or dictatorship.

Krsna allows the eternal individual jiva-souls (devotees) in the spiritual world to continually "re-invent" themselves by voluntarily serving in a capacity they choose, by making their own unique decisions, contributions or offerings.

This allows diversity and an unlimited range of variegatedness in the devotee's personal service to Krsna that is forever expanding their positive and progressive independent contributions in the Kingdom of God (Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana) infinitely and indefinitely expanding their voluntary participation, personal contributions and inspiration in an unlimited arrangement of unique ways serving and associating with Krsna in His never ending expanding blissful pastimes (lilas) in the Kingdom of God.  

Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls (His devotees) to have their "free will" because He wants to see unique voluntary independent expressions of love towards Him from His devotee's personal choices with their own unique thoughtful contributions on their own.

Krsna wants His devotees to voluntarily be personally creative in their independent offerings, friendship and service to Him.

In other words, Kṛṣṇa wants a "two-sided" open reciprocal cooperative contributing relationship of loving exchanges with His intimate devotees, where they can voluntarily express themselves as they choose, in their own unique way, as separate independent individuals from Krsna, yet simultaneously fully dependent on Him due to being His parts and parcels.

This means the devotees of Krsna should NEVER surrender to a mindless puppetry “one-sided" dominating relationship, where the devotee is ordered what to think, and how to serve without being encouraged to think for themselves with their own unique personal voluntary contributions. 

Such a nonsense “one-sided” relationship is a loveless dictatorship and impersonalism!

Krsna allows free will (voluntary self-expression) so His devotees can experience their own unique individuality by making their own offerings or contributions to Him in a way that forever expands loving exchanges and reciprocation in a "two-way" transition and NEVER in a "one-sided" non-contributing loveless dictatorship.

In this way, "free will" eternally exists for the individual jiva-souls because Krsna wants a "two-way" contributing open relationship with them and includes giving the individual jiva-souls the choice to reject Him if they want.

Therefore Krsna always encourages self expression, in both directs. 

The unique personal contributions from His surrendered dear devotees, are meant to contribute to the relationship, making it a "two-sided" exchange of loving emotions.

The relationship with Krsna must be this way because love can never be experienced with just one, there must two, an open "two-sided" reciprocal relationship of mutual returns, cooperation and respect.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world service there is always voluntary for Krsna's devotees. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there, if I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily, and can change from flower to human body if the devotee desires, that is spiritual life, it is all voluntary, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Krsna gave His devotees their freedom (free-will) so they can voluntarily choose to serve Kṛṣṇa in unlimited creative ways, or even reject Him if they choose, this will only prove Krsna has allowed free will.

Ultimately this is all Krsna's creation and how He manages it is entirely up to Him as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains.

However, the devotees having their freedom of self expression must be this way because Krsna knows if He never gave His devotees (the individual jīva-souls) their independence (free will), then genuine loving exchanges, affection and reciprocation in a open two-way exchange, could never exist, making Krsna no different from a cold puppet master who manipulates and controls everything his puppets do and think.

Such a mindless dictatorial existence without free will (unique self expression of voluntary offerings to Krsna) is dangerous impersonalism.

Therefore, Krsna's devotees (individual jiva-souls) are eternal independent thinking thoughtful spiritual living PERSONS, as an eternal spiritual bodily form like Krsna's Bodily Form, who are indestructible and can never be destroyed, terminated, cut into pieces or extinguished as Bhagavad Gita As It Is chapter two explains.

On the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana, personal voluntary expressions of loving exchanges expressed through free will, are always encouraged by Krsna in His eternal relationship with His devotees that adds flavour, variety and mystery to the association and intimate relationship.

This means the Kingdom of God is not a "one-sided" dominating impersonal domain devoid of free will (voluntary service and personal contributions)

Such a "one-sided" dictatorial relationship does not allow personal contributions or offerings to God (Krsna) that are only found in a "two-way" relationship that expands, enriches and flavours the devotees personal voluntary service to Krsna.

In an impersonal "one-sided" relationship, where a devotee is always told what to do, how to think and how to act, only denies the devotee's their individual God given ability of self expression that provides unique contributions and voluntary loving exchanges.

As said above, love or service is never a "one-sided" affiliate of total supremacy or pre-eminence in the spiritual world because for love to flourish and expand, there MUST be two.

Genuine loving relationships between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees are based on voluntary reciprocal exchanges and personal contributions between two, love can never be experienced by just one.

The devotees (individual jiva-souĺs) have their choices on how they want to serve and please Krsna too, or they can even choose to reject Krsna if they want, this is the consequence of having free will.

Loving reciprocation is only possible on a "two-way" street between two, with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.

The word "reciprocation" only has meaning when there are two involved, not one.

The individual jiva-souĺs (devotees) have their choices too, even if that sometimes means rejecting Krsna and doing their own thing in the temporary material world.

The individual devotees in their full potential on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever positively re-inventing themselves by always choosing how to continuously increase their variety of devotional voluntary service to Krsna or Visnu.

This is achieved by forever positively discovering a variety of ways to expand their individual expressions of personal offerings and affection to Krsna in their perpetual unique relationship with Him.

Srila Prabhupada - "If God is not an individual, how did His sons become personalities? If your father is a total emptiness, if he is not an individual, then how did you become an individual? If your father doesn't have a uniform, how did you get one? 

These questions are based on common sense and basic logic; there is nothing difficult here. 

Unfortunately, people who are disappointed in material existence either try to come up with a form of God or conclude that because material form is temporary and causes a lot of suffering, God must not have any form at all. 

According to their logic,since all forms in the material world are absorbent, God is likely to be formless. The Brahma-Samhita especially emphasizes that this notion is wrong. 

Ishwarah paramah krsna, sat-chit-ananda-vigraha. 

God has a form, but His form is sat-chit-ananda-vigraha. 

Sat means "eternal," 

chit means "knowledge,"  

ananda means “bliss"

vigraha means spiritual bodily form, His form is eternal and full of knowledge and bliss." (A path to perfection, Ch 3 The Science of Contemplation of God)

Srila Prabhupada – “The impersonalist philosophy is oneness so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant.” (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – “Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation.” (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

The relationship with Krsna in the spiritual world (The Kingdom of God) is never a “one-way” forced unproductive affinity that denies personal contributions (impersonalism).

The individual devotee's relationship with Krsna is always based on "free will," this allows a variety of unique creative voluntary offerings of service to Krsna, only then can genuine loving exchanges exist.

Śrīla Prabhupāda – “Love means "two-persons," I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, then these things must be there.” (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Personal voluntarily self chosen contributions offered by Krsna's devotees, are different from Krsna's shower of loving affection to His devotees, putting the relationship on a "two-way" street of loving exchanges which means the individual jiva-souls  have their own unique independent thinking and chosen actions.

The relationship between Krsna and His devotees are eternally a "two-way" mystery of exchanges that only further enriches, intensifies and expands loving expressions and affection between the devotees and Krsna.

Such personal unique contributions from the individual devotee's independent expressions, coming from their independent execution of free will, forever expands their personal ability to make voluntary offerings to Krsna in the spiritual world that forever increase their loving emotions for Krsna in a healthy "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation..<..


Friday, May 30, 2025

Each jiva-soul (individual living units of anti-matter) known as Krsna's marginal energy, are singular one of a kind individual persons, who each have their own unique personality and spiritual bodily form, different from all other personalities, including Kṛṣṇas.

There are no two individual jiva-souls who are the same, and no individual jiva-soul can ever be equal to Krsna (God), the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, who is simultaneously an individual Person, and is all-one (all-pervasive) with His spiritual and material creations. 

Genuine loving devotional service to Krsna is only possible in a "two-way" cooperative exchange of voluntary feelings and choices, that only then can lead to loving acts of reciprocation and mutual returns.

Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls to be independent contributing persons in His creation who forever have free will.

The highest love means both Krsna and His devotees serve each other without any desire for returns or reward. 

In fact, even though it is said the individual jiva-souls are Krsna's eternal servants in their full potential, the fact is, Krsna serves His pure devotees far more than they can ever serve Him.

Krsna is the most selfless, the most humble, the most forgiving, the most serving, we tend to forget how loving Krsna is, to His pure devotees. 

For every step the devotee makes towards Krsna, Krsna makes a thousand towards them. Krsna's love for His devotees is inconceivable and deeply personal.

The devotees voluntarily contribute their services and offerings to Krsna, unique to each individual devotee in response to Krsna's love and attention He showers them with. 

These kinds of selfless loving expressions are given in return to Krsna because of Krsna's amazing love, affection, protection and the wonderful attention He always gives to His dear friends and companions, His loving devotees.

These forever expanding "two-way" loving expressions of feelings, emotions and exchanges going on between Kṛṣṇa and His pure devotees, is the real understanding and foundation of what devotion and surrendering to Krsna's will really is.

The simple understanding is this, love is never possible with just one, for love to exist their must be two involved, if you love someone then you always do nice things for them and those they love.

This is only possible between two, the lover and the beloved and NEVER possible within a one-sided impersonal loveless existence. 

Love has no meaning with just one, there must be two experiencing the interactions of loving exchanges. 

On the other hand, for free will to have meaning (freedom of expression), the individual jiva-souls (devotees) can also completely reject Krsna if they choose to do so.

This "two-way" scenario, means the individual jiva-souls can except or reject Krsna if they choose. This is eternally sanctioned by Krsna, to allow "free will" to exist for the purpose of establishing a "two-way alternative" so the individual jiva-souls can express themselves in the way they choose, including living separate from Krsna if they want.

For "free will" to truly exist, the ability to make one's own individual choices, good or bad, are an eternal constitutional option and voluntary selection each individual jiva-soul always has. 

Even though everything is ALWAYS under Krsna's control due to Him being the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, He allows this independent nature to be real for the purpose of encouraging individual unique personal contributions from His devotees.

Otherwise, if it was only a "one-sided" impersonal "autocracy" that demands the devotees to only obey Krsna without personally participation and voluntary contributions, then the relationship is based on impersonalism that denies personal participation, mutal cooperation and individual contributions from Krsna's devotees. 

The devotees also share unique convictions and realizations with Krsna, and engage in reciprocal interactions with Him 

Without the devotees (individual jiva-souĺs) being able to fully express themselves in the spiritual world with Krsna, would only leave a "one-sided" impersonal loveless singular overwhelming viewpoint, which is a domineering dictatorship.

If such an impersonal loveless "one-sided" relationship existed between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees explained above, it would mean the devotees could never act voluntarily in a service of their choice, that allows them to be creative with their own thoughts and actions meant to please  Krsna, that simultaneously forever expands all loving exchanges and interactions in a "two-way" union with Kṛṣṇa in the spiritual world. 

This is the correct meaning of personalism and surrendering to Krsna's will. Such surrender to Krsna does not mean the devotees lose their free will, or right to choose what service they want to voluntarily contribute. 

The spiritual world has always been a "two-way" street based on loving exchanges voluntary shared between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees.  

It is an impersonalist existence for those living like a mindless unproductive puppet, that are always controlled by the manipulations of a puppet master. 

Such a one-sided manipulation means those who live like an mindless unproductive non-contributing puppet, are only always told what to do, and how to think, instead of being educated on how to think for themselves by contributing to their relationship with others in a two-way reciprocal exchange, that allows loving voluntary contributions to a relationship exist. 

The pure devotees of Krsna are therefore not mindless puppets that act only by the manipulative strings controlled by the puppet master, cancelling out their own voluntary actions and thoughts. 

The devotees of Kṛṣṇa do NOT become like those mindless impersonal puppets like that, where "so called surrender" to Krsna's desires and will means all their thoughts and actions come under Krsna's complete control, no! That is NOT what surrender to Krsna means! That autocratic manipulation is impersonalism!

The devotees of Kṛṣṇa are eternal unique independent PERSONS who think for themselves as the individual servant of Krsna they eternally are, who voluntary contributes in their relationship with Krsna the way they choose, in a "two-way" exchange that forever expands the interactions of loving emotions going on between Kṛṣṇa and His genuine devotees.

Personalism means the pure devotees of Krsna are always able to provide the unique individual creative contributions and independent voluntary expressions they choose and then shared with Krsna in a "two-way" reciprocal inspirational relationship.

Such deliberate interactions between two is the only way of allowing loving exchanges to flourish and grow and have positive meaning, establishing free will as the foundation of all interactions between two that instigates genuine loving exchanges. 

Love can never exist when there is just one, there must be two.

To experience loving exchanges, even Krsna divided Himself into two individuals just so He could experience His love for Srimati Radharani, Krsna's eternal consort.

Radharani and Krsna are one appearing as two individual spiritual bodily Forms, and together as one, they are the spiritual bodily form of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Not easy to comprehend. 

This deep understanding requires Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's benediction, mercy and dedicated devotion to correctly understand, beginning with finding, then serving, a genuine Spiritual Master who can guide the fallen individual jiva-soul in the material world, back home back to Godhead. 

Without the basic principle of being nurtured and guided to the spiritual platform to eventually experience genuine voluntary loving exchanges with Krsna or Visnu in a "two-way" cooperative return, then there can never be genuine loving exchanges, voluntary service or freedom of self-expression.

These qualities of giving and receiving can only exist due to the freedom of self expression that each devotee is blessed with, where the individual devotee is always able to voluntary contribute "within" the relationship with Krsna in His pastimes, where the relationship with Krsna is always a "two-sided" exchange between two.

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, are NOT a "one-sided directive" totalitarian autocratic loveless dictatorship.

Emotions expressed from only one individual person without the acknowledgement and acceptance of a second individual person who contributes to the decision making with their personal contributions, is known as impersonalism.

For love to exist, there are always "two-way" exchanges of feelings and emotions going on between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees that expand, enriches and adds mystery within the relationship.

This is only possible when two-sided loving exchanges, reciprocation and cooperation flourish. 

The fact is, loving affection, sentiment and exchanges can only be experienced between two, where giving and receiving is possible, that allow mutual reciprocation and fondness to exist between the loved and the beloved.

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already the lover, He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back home back to Godhead, that is Kṛṣṇa's attempt, "Please, My dear boy, girl or friend, My dear servant, please return home." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana are not a dictatorial "one-way" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding dictatorship that denies individual personal voluntary contributions due to Krsna doing all the thinking and decision making for the devotee. No, the spiritual planets are not impersonal or emotionally stagnant like that.

The fact is, on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana (the Kingdoms of God) there are always loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions based on "free will", and loving enriching reciprocation going on between Krsna and His devotees, because without these attributes, there can never be an exchange of spiritual loving emotions and feelings.

Love can never exist with just one, there MUST be two.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Therefore, loyalty is always a "two-way street," where the individual devotees (jiva-souls) have their unique personality that is seperate from Krsna's Personality. 

In this capacity, the devotees are able to add their own personal unique expressions and actions into the relationship with Krsna, meant to please Him, that expands and forever enhances, enriches and adds intrigue and mystery into one's endless friendship with Krsna. 

Krsna will never "force" His devotee to do what he/she does not choose to do on the Vaikuntha planets, or Goloka-Vrindavana, because His dear pure devotees are NOT mindless "yes" men or women who are controlled in every way like a puppet master impersonally controls his mindless puppets with the movement of strings. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver, ‘you love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So, surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is never impersonal, it does not mean you have to give up your intelligence, free will, individuality, and having the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The spiritual worlds are not an impersonal domineering mindless totalitarian stagnant place for the individual jiva-souls, where they can never experience love (loving exchanges shared two-ways), encouraged or taught to give to and recieve equally, sharing their loving emotions, unique expressions and contributions, and not just obey and told what to do and think. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not impersonal like that in anyway, there is always voluntary loving exchanges going on in a two-way exchange, that enhance, encourage and allow expressions of personal feelings and emotions, based on loving reciprocation between Krsna and His pure devotees, to forever expand in an unlimited variety of voluntary ways.

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotee want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, and become a flower, voluntarily. And one can change from flower to any bodily form including human body, that is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

One's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom is never a one-sided master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as explained above,  Srila Prabhupada is telling us here.

The individual jiva-souls in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever voluntarily expanding their unique expressions of service with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings made possible because of free will.

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love, love means there must be somebody else to share it with, love cannot be one, or cannot be executed by only one, there must be another one to share loving exchanges with. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction is complete, then there is love." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from them, but you don't give in return. Oh, do you think that is very good? No, it is not good, that is not love, it is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you and don't offer you anything in return, then that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already the lover, He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back home back to Godhead, that is Kṛṣṇa's attempt, "Please, My dear boy, girl or friend, My dear servant, please return home." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

As explained above, real love or bhakti is reciprocal, and exists due to voluntary loving exchanges, it is never a one-sided domination where so called surrender to Krsna takes away the devotees individual freedom to voluntarily provide a variety of unique personal contributions (offerings) to Krsna, or even reject Krsna if they choose.

Therefore, each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, yet always simultaneously dependent on Krsna because Krsna is the Supreme God behind everything and therefore the cause of all causes. 

As Bhagavad Gita As It Is says, "Not a blade of grass can move without the will of the Lord."

The individual jiva-souls are an eternal separate personality from Krsna's Personality. This means they having their own sense of self responsible for their own actions. 

The individual jiva-souls are unique individual persons, each person has their own unique sense of independent self eternally, that Krsna allows for the purpose of creating a "two-way" reciprocal universe based on voluntary exchanges, free will and diversity where the individual jiva-souls are always responsible for the choices they make, deserving the reactions to those choices.  

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva soul) making each of them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.

"Free will" in its full potential is only fully experienced on the Vaikuntha planets and on Krsna'a central Abode of Goloka-Vrindavan where Krsna allows voluntary progessive cooperative creative loving exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jiva-souls (devotees), as the foundation to principle of the eternal spiritual worlds, which are the individual jiva-souls original perpetual home.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly, that is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means we have free will."

Hayagriva dasa - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is his free will, he misuses his free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad, but still he does it, that is his free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing, he knows he will be eventually punished, he knows; he has seen other thieves get caught and punshed and put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada and devotees on Rene Descartes philosophy)

Vipina Purandara - "Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand to them, "You love me, you love me, you love me!" Is it love? "You love me, otherwise I will kill you!" Is that love?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Krsna does not want followers who deny others their right to choose for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna, by offering their own unique personal contributions, or even rejecting Krsna if they choose as Prabhupada explains above.

There is always a choice and that is why "free will" always exists in God's Kingdom otherwise we are no better than dead emotionless stone.

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges and cooperation between Krsna and His devotees, it is never a "one-way" demanding forceful relationship.  

Ultimately, we are all Krsna's servants and very dear friends and companions however, that does not mean we have to give up our free will and individual identity to be Krsna's friend and servant.

The conclusion is, of course free will does exists in Goloka Vrindavana and on the Vaikuntha planets, and is part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul).

And yes, Krsna always allows free will because if He didn't, then how can loving exchanges ever exist?

So why must the individual jiva-souls have free will?

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval the jiva souls have anything including their free will, so how do we understand this? 

The fact is if Krsna denied the jiva-soul's there free will then we are no better than dead stone.

Without free will the individual jiva-souls can never experience loving exchanges or emotions because ultimately love is a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings only experienced when there is voluntary contributions in a two-way exchange that can only work when there is free will. 

Genuine love can never be experienced in a "one way" totally controlled environment run by Krsna or anyone. Such impersonal control of an individual is called slavery.

Emotions expressed in a "one way" mood without any exchange between ,"two" is not love at all, it is selfishness, and is really dangerous impersonalism.

Therefore without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva soul will never experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and their personal unique offerings of individual contributions to Krsna.

As Prabhupada says, without "free will" we are no better than dead stone!

“Free will” or the ability to “choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and always exists without beginning or end in all the spiritual planets.

As said above, free will in its full potential only exists on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, which are our original perpetual home from where we originated from.

As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls is never a "one-way" domineering dictatorial relationship that denies personal contributions and choices.

No, love is always based on the reciprocation and loving returns between two because love can only exist when there are two exchanging loving emotions and feelings for each other as Prabhupada explains here-

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately, each individual jiva-soul is a unique person who can choose for themselves to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him. 

As Prabhupada explains here, Krsna never forces you to surrender to Him, never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary. Love is reciprocal, good exchange of feeling, then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?" Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).

The individual jiva-souls on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever expanding their expression of individual ideas with personal offerings based on free will, inspired by selfless loving exchanges and  reciprocation with Krsna, it is never a one-sided master/slave relationship with God in His Kingdom.

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own autonomous personality separate from Krsna's Personality, having their own sense of independent self, and unique characteristics that each individual jiva-soul uniquely has, meaning no two other individual jiva-souls are the same. 

Each eternal jiva-soul is a unique individual with their own personality.  

All these qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities make up in the spiritual worlds as the independent unique "PERSON" they are eternally.

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. "So God does not interfere with your independence." (Conversation Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Having the attributes of being an eternal PERSON also includes having free will as part and parcel of the jiva-souls constitutional make up.

Krsna does not want to be surrounded by mindless drones who have no individual offerings to voluntary contribute, or have no personal offerings they choose to offer that expands, enriches, adds mystery and enlivens the relationship of loving exchanges with Krsna.^÷^.