Lord Chaitanya and the Renaissance of Devotion
By His Grace Ravindra-svarupa dasa ACBSP.
While Europe, as if weary of its medieval concepts of God, turned with new interest toward man and the mundane, a spiritual revolution in India—destined to spread worldwide—was revealing the dynamic nature of the Absolute Truth.
Europe in the fifteenth century was undergoing that awesome social and cultural transformation that the historian Jules Michelet, looking back in reverence, named the Renaissance, the “rebirth.”
That long medieval period, with its vision so entranced by splendid images of the eternal that it could hardly spare a glance for this fleeting world, with its mind so obsessed by last things—Death, Judgment, Heaven and Hell—that it endured this life only as a hard trial and preparation, with its social body constructed of rigid hierarchies and maintained by a plodding economy—all that was finished.
Like a man awakening from sleep and shaking fuzzy images of dreams from his head, Europe came alive to the senses and beheld as if for the first time the whole vast world that lay so enchantingly before it, rich with mysterious promise, beckoning with limitless possibilities.
Pico della Mirandola composed an Oration on the Dignity of Man. Still depicting pious subjects, Michelangelo carved in rock the grace and strength of a perfectly proportioned, smoothly muscled David and shaped a hymn in glorification of the male body, while everywhere painters adorned walls with the supple limbs and lustrous complexions of ripely rounded, exquisitely charming Madonnas.
Bold navigators turned their prows into uncharted seas and found new worlds for exploration and exploitation.
In the grip of a relentless fascination, Leonardo da Vinci limned in notebooks painstaking studies that delved into the intricacies of human anatomy and the mechanics of birds in flight.
Based on a new, man-made kind of wealth, a new, self-made aristocracy arose—“merchant princes” who created far-flung empires of trade, banking, and manufacture. And so it happened that in a great shift of human vision from God to man and matter, the modern world was born.
India in the fifteenth century was also undergoing a renaissance—of a quite different sort. It was indeed almost the opposite of the European one; scholars have called it the “bhakti renaissance,” a great rebirth of devotion to God. The preeminent figure of this powerful religious upsurge was Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
When modern researchers explain historical changes, they, of course, consider only mundane causes—social, political, economic, and other such factors. However, I want to explore here another kind of cause: the divine. The Bhagavad-gita explains briefly how and why God periodically intervenes in human history:
“Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice,” Krishna declares, “and a predominant rise of irreligion—at that time I manifest Myself. To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of religion, I Myself appear, millennium after millennium” (Bg. 4.7-8).
As an introductory text, the Bhagavad-gita succinctly presents general principles. More advanced texts, like the Srimad-Bhagavatam, furnish further information. Drawing on such works, Srila Prabhupada comments on the statement of the Bhagavad-gita:
“It is not a fact that the Lord appears only on Indian soil. He can manifest Himself anywhere and everywhere, and whenever He desires to appear. In each and every incarnation, He speaks as much about religion as can be understood by the particular people under their particular circumstances.
But the mission is the same—to lead people to God consciousness and obedience to the principles of religion. Sometimes He descends personally, and sometimes He sends His bona fide representative in the form of His son, or servant, or Himself in some disguised form.”
Why should God have to appear over and over again? After all, if God is perfect, shouldn’t He be able to establish religion perfectly? Shouldn’t once suffice for all?
It is, however, the nature of the material world that all things decay in time, and while God is infallible, the human beings who receive and transmit God’s instructions are fallible.
Consequently, the religious traditions God establishes become compromised and undermined by a worldly spirit, and so in time they disintegrate.
When religion thus declines, and irreligion consequently rises, God descends to rectify the imbalance and restore the principles of righteousness. God’s periodic intervention is crucial. Krishna notes in the Bhagavad-gita that if He did not act in this way, “all these worlds would be put to ruination” (Bg. 3.24),
The Renaissance in Europe offers a clear instance of the decline of religion. Fifteen hundred years earlier, Jesus Christ, the son of God, had appeared in a remote corner of the Roman Empire and had taught, as far as possible, the principles of religion.
His followers, adopting and transforming the philosophical heritage of the Greeks and the practical and material legacy of the Romans, had eventually created in Europe a God-centered civilization. But the Renaissance, as a great movement of secularization, signaled the destruction of that civilization.
Priestly worldliness and corruption had vitiated the spiritual power of the Church (as anyone familiar with the history of the Renaissance popes can attest).
Although Martin Luther and other reformers attempted to restore the purity of Christianity, they unintentionally provided the means for European rulers to break loose from religious control. Thus the Reformation greatly contributed to the dismantling of the medieval God-centered civilization.
If Europe during the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries illustrates the sort of religious decline described in the Bhagavad-gita, India in the same period illustrates the divine restoration.
The transcendental agent in this case was Sri Caitanya, who appeared in what is now West Bengal in 1486, just four years after Luther’s birth in Germany.
A person should be accepted as an incarnation of God only if He is referred to in scriptures. Many scriptures foretell the advent of Lord Caitanya. The Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.5.32) says:
“In the age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the name of Krishna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krishna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, His servants, His weapons, and His confidential companions.”
This verse identifies Lord Caitanya as a special kind of incarnation called a “yuga-avatara.” Vedic literature describes history as cyclical, progressing through repeated revolutions of four great ages called yugas.
The first age of the cycle, satya- yuga, is a golden age of immense spiritual and material well-being; each subsequent age ushers in a decline.
We are now five thousand years into Kali-yuga, the final and most debased age. “In this iron age of Kali,” the Bhagavatam says, “men have but short lives. They are quarrelsome, lazy, misguided, unlucky, and, above all, always disturbed” (Bhag. 1.1.10).
Religious practice has to be tailored to fit the particular characteristics of each of the yugas. The meditational practices suitable for Satya-yuga, for example, will be ineffective in the Kali-yuga.
People no longer have the time, the determination, and the peace of mind to meditate properly. The Lord therefore descends in each yuga—as the yuga-avatara—in order to establish the appropriate form of religion.
According to the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Lord Caitanya is the yuga-avatara for this age of Kali.
The Bhagavatam also notes the specific religious practice Lord Caitanya will propagate: sankirtana, the congregational chanting of the name of God. Sankirtana is especially suitable for Kali-yuga, because it is both easy to do and extremely powerful.
In this age we are in such a morbid condition of soul that only the strongest of remedies can heal us. And we will refuse the medicine unless it is sweet and easy to take. Therefore, Lord Caitanya disseminated the holy name.
No matter how quarrelsome, lazy, misguided, unlucky, and disturbed we may be, we can easily chant Hare Krishna with perceptible spiritual results. We will at once have a taste of transcendental bliss and feel lust, greed, and anger diminish. The immeasurable potency of the divine name will rid even the most polluted mind of the putrefaction of material existence.
Lord Caitanya possessed such immense spiritual power that waves of devotion spread out from Him and inundated all of India with love of God. His life and teachings have been expertly recounted by Krishnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami in Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, universally recognized as a classic of Bengali literature. We can get some idea of Lord Caitanya’s potency from this description of the Lord’s impact on people during His tour of South India:
Whenever Lord Caitanya met anyone, Krishnadasa Kaviraja says, He would ask them to chant Hare Krishna. “Whoever heard Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu chant ‘Hari, Hari,’ also chanted the holy name of Lord Hari and Krishna.
In this way, they all followed the Lord, very eager to see Him. After some time, the Lord would embrace these people and bid them to return home, after investing them with spiritual potency. Being thus empowered, they would return to their own villages, always chanting the holy name of Krishna and sometimes laughing, crying, and dancing.
These empowered people used to request everyone and anyone—whomever they saw—to chant the holy name of Krishna. In this way all the villagers would also become devotees of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. And simply by seeing such empowered individuals, people from different villages would become like them by the mercy of their glance.
When these individuals returned to their villages, they also converted others into devotees. When others came to see them, they were also converted. In this way, as those men went from one village to another, all the people of South India became devotees. Thus many hundreds of people became Vaishnavas [devotees of Krishna] when they passed the Lord on the way and were embraced by Him” (Cc. Madhya 7.98-105).
A unique feature of Krishna’s appearing as Lord Caitanya is that although Lord Caitanya is Krishna Himself, He does not appear as God but rather as a devotee of God. There are two reasons why God assumes the role of His own devotee, one of them external and public, the other internal and private.
The public reason God comes as a devotee is to teach the chanting of the names of God in the most attractive and powerful way. By playing the part of His own devotee—the greatest devotee of all—Krishna is able to show by His own peerless example the splendor of pure devotional service. Since Lord Caitanya is God Himself revealing to us how He wishes to be served, the teachings of Lord Caitanya are most authorized.
God’s private reason for descending as Lord Caitanya is more difficult to grasp, and to understand it we will have to enter into some of God’s confidential, internal affairs. Indeed, it is principally through Lord Caitanya that these matters have become known to us at all. (They are, to be sure. described in ancient scriptures, but Lord Caitanya illuminated the meaning of those texts and made their importance shine forth.)
Krishna’s appearance as Lord Caitanya is really Krishna’s own tribute and testament to the overwhelming attractiveness of pure devotional service and, especially, of His pure devotee. Moreover, when Krishna assumes the features of His own greatest devotee, He has, in fact, a particular devotee in mind: His highest and most intimate devotee. Srimati Radharani.
You may have seen paintings that depict Radha and Krishna together; Lord Krishna appears as a beautiful young man with a dark-blue complexion that glows like a newly formed rain cloud illuminated within by lightning.
Srimati Radharani is an equally beautiful young girl; Her complexion is lustrous like molten gold. Krishna plays on His flute, and Radharani, Her hand resting lightly on Krishna’s shoulder, listens in enchantment. It is clear from Their posture and from the way They glance at each other that They are deeply in love.
Westerners often misunderstand Radha and Krishna. An earlier, puritanical generation was appalled at the notion that God should have a consort and enter into a conjugal relationship.
Nowadays, one encounters people from a younger generation who are very much “into” sex and are delighted to think that God is too. Both groups radically misunderstand Radha and Krishna, because both share in a common error: that the relationship between Radharani and Krishna is like a mundane sexual relationship.
Male and female and the attraction between them are found in this world only because sexual polarity and attraction exist originally in God, in Radha-Krishna. As above, so here below. But there is a difference also. Worldly sexual relationships are merely perverted reflections of the original and transcendental conjugal relationship between Radha and Krishna, which is pure and spiritual and devoid of any tinge of lust.
As long as Our materially besmirched minds are conditioned by worldly desire, we are unable to conceive of the immaculate love between Radha and Krishna. We project our own unwholesome relationships and unholy loves onto God.
This is surely a mistake. A person can understand the conjugal love of Radha and Krishna as it is only if he himself becomes free from lust. Lord Caitanya was able to make an unprecedented disclosure of the confidential relationship between Radharani and Krishna because He also taught the chanting of Hare Krishna, which destroys lust and other material impurities with unrivaled efficacy.
We can understand the position of Srimati Radharani by means of the ideas of “potency” (shakti) and the “potent” (shaktiman), that is, of power or energy, on the one hand, and of the possessor of the power, the energetic source, on the other.
To use an illustration, fire is the potent, and heat and light are the fire’s potency. But the supremely potent, the ultimate source of all energies, is Krishna; everything else, material or spiritual, is His potency, emanating from Him as heat and light emanate from a fire. (Heat and light are potency in relation to the potent fire; fire, potency in relation to the potent sun; the sun, potency in relation to Krishna, the supremely potent.) The entire content of what is can be exhaustively described as Krishna and His energies.
Three of Krishna’s multitudinous potencies are prominent. One of them manifests the whole material world; another, the innumerable spiritual souls.
The third—called the internal potency—manifests the transcendental kingdom of God.
This internal potency has three further subdivisions. By one of these transcendental potencies, Krishna maintains His existence and that of the eternal kingdom of God; by another, He knows Himself and causes others to know Him. And by the third internal potency He enjoys transcendental bliss and causes His devotees to feel bliss.
This internal potency of bliss, called hladini- shakti, is Srimati Radharani.
As the embodiment of Krishna’s transcendental pleasure-giving potency, Srimati Radharani is Krishna’s most perfect devotee; She lives only for satisfying Him with Her pure devotional love.
All devotional service falls under the auspices of Srimati Radharani, and only by Her mercy and care are the devotees able to please Her beloved Krishna. She is the ideal devotee, the exemplar of unconditioned love.
Krishna and Radha are simultaneously one and yet different, just as a fire and its light are one and yet different at the same time. Thus, although Radharani and Krishna are one in Their identity, They have separated Themselves eternally.
Radha and Krishna together exemplify the simultaneous oneness and difference of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His energy, constituting the whole of the Absolute Truth. Thus they illustrate the most profound metaphysical principle.
Radharani and Krishna show that the ultimate nature of God contains internal varieties, and Their endless reciprocation of love is the basis of an internal transcendental dynamic by which Krishna is eternally increasing in beauty and bliss.
Although Radha has no desire for her own enjoyment, when She sees Krishna, Her joy increases without bound. Because Her joy increases, Her sweetness and beauty also increase. When Krishna sees Radha becoming more and more beautiful, His joy also becomes greater, making His beauty and His sweetness grow.
When Radha sees that She has pleased Krishna, She becomes overjoyed, and as Her joy multiplies, She becomes even more beautiful and sweet. This again increases Krishna’s own joy, beauty, and sweetness… . And so the reciprocation goes on and on, without limit or end.
The name Krishna means “all-attractive,” and knowing the reciprocation of ever-increasing love between Radha and Krishna allows us to appreciate how attractive God is—much more attractive than anything in this world.
When God is misconceived as static and without variegatedness, it makes the material world seem more interesting and alluring by comparison. Just this sort of static conception was borrowed by Christian philosophers from Aristotle and enshrined in medieval theology; and this is one reason why the Renaissance turned to the material world for a sense of promise, adventure, and expanding possibilities.
For God was philosophically understood as actus purus, which meant that He was everything that He could ever be; He was entirely static, a kind of crystalized, frozen perfection.
It was thought that if God possesses the fullness of infinite perfection, then the divine perfection would be at an absolute maximum and could not increase. But Krishnadasa Kaviraja says that although God is at the fullness of perfection, He still does increase.
The apparent paradox may be easier to accept if you consider a similar “paradox” discovered by modern mathematicians in their investigation of the properties of infinite sets. Let us consider, for example, a hotel with infinite rooms, all of which are occupied.
Although the hotel is full, you can always add more guests—in fact, an infinite number of guests. Let us imagine that the desk clerk wants to check in a new guest. He blows a whistle, and all the doors open. The occupant of room 1 moves to room 2, of 2 to room 3, … and so on, ad infinitum. The new guest enters the now- empty room 1.
Similarly, even though an infinite number of guests check out of the hotel, it will retain full occupancy. The Ishopanishad makes a similar point about the Supreme Personality of Godhead: He is so complete that even though countless energies emanate from Him, He remains complete and wholly undiminished. And although Krishna is full and complete, yet, through His loving reciprocation with Radha, He eternally increases without limit.
Lord Caitanya also embodies another phase in the transcendental psychology of the loving reciprocation between Radha and Krishna. We have already seen how Krishna is ceaselessly fascinated and attracted by Radha. He finds Her love for Him equally amazing. Its selfless purity and its intensity fill Him with wonder.
Krishnadasa Kaviraja tells us that Krishna thinks to Himself, “Whatever pleasure I get from tasting My love for Srimati Radharani, She tastes ten million times more than Me by Her love” (Cc. Adi 4.126).
Krishna is the supreme enjoyer, but He realizes that Srimati Radharani, by Her love for Him, enjoys even more bliss than He does. Thus Krishna becomes eager to experience for Himself the flavor of Srimati Radharani’s love for Him.
Krishna’s beauty and sweetness are so limitless that they attract the whole universe. Krishnadasa Kaviraja says: “The beauty of Krishna has one natural strength: it thrills the hearts of all men and women, beginning with Lord Krishna Himself.
All minds are attracted by hearing his sweet voice and flute, or by seeing His beauty. Even Lord Krishna Himself makes efforts to taste that sweetness” (Cc. Adi 4.147-48). But the one who relishes Krishna’s beauty and sweetness the most is Srimati Radharani.
Her immaculate love is like a flawless mirror, and in that mirror Krishna’s own beauty and sweetness shine with ever greater brightness. Thus Krishna desires to experience His own attractiveness in the way that Srimati Radharani does.
For these reasons, then, Krishna desires to take the position of Srimati Radharani. That desire is eternally fulfilled in the person of Lord Caitanya. In His form as Lord Caitanya, Krishna assumes the golden complexion and the devotional feelings of Radha, and tastes for Himself the unlimited bliss of devotional service.
Krishnadasa Kaviraja sets down two verses in which he summarizes the nature of Lord Caitanya: “The loving affairs of Sri Radha and Krishna are transcendental manifestations of the Lord’s internal pleasure-giving potency.
Although Radha and Krishna are one in Their identity, They separated Themselves eternally. Now these two transcendental identities have again united in the form of Sri Krishna Caitanya. I bow down to Him, who has manifested Himself with the sentiment and complexion of Srimati Radharani although He is Krishna Himself.
Desiring to understand the glory of Radharani’s love, the wonderful qualities in Him that She alone relishes through Her love, and the happiness She feels when She realizes the sweetness of His love, the Supreme Lord Hari, richly endowed with Her emotions, appeared from the womb of Srimati Sacidevi, as the moon appeared from the ocean” (Cc. Adi 1.5-6).
The three transcendental personalities of Radha, Krishna, and Caitanya together manifest the eternal dialectics of divine love, the timeless dynamics of the ever-expanding ocean of transcendental bliss.
Lord Caitanya descended to flood the world with that ocean of love by distributing to everyone the chanting of the names of God. Simply by chanting Hare Krishna, anyone can enter into that limitless ocean of the nectar of devotion.
Lord Caitanya inaugurated a bhakti renaissance and turned people’s vision to God at the same time that the Renaissance in Europe turned people’s vision to man and the world.
Men like da Vinci, fascinated by the marvelous and cunning complexities of material nature, began to delve into her secrets with an insatiable curiosity and were rewarded with discovery.
At the same time, as if in counterbalance, Lord Caitanya, through the renaissance of bhakti, gave to the world an unprecedented view into the inner dynamics of infinite love in the all-attractive Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Just as men of the Renaissance tried to open up the world and unlock the secrets of nature, Lord Caitanya and His associates opened up the kingdom of God and unlocked the secrets of love of God.
To the people of the Renaissance, the world and man seemed imbued with limitless possibility and promise. Western civilization to the present day has been following up on that vision, and it becomes more and more apparent that the world and man have not lived up to their promise.
The Renaissance shift of vision from God to man and matter has cut people off from any transcendent source of meaning and value, and the resultant relativism and nihilism—the ripened fruit of the Renaissance—have released demonic energies that have devastated the earth in our time. And there is more to come.
Therefore, Lord Caitanya’s appearance was most timely. The civilization born in Europe during the Renaissance has grown to straddle the earth. But there has been a most fortunate counterflux, as the sankirtana movement of Lord Caitanya has also spread over the globe, in fulfillment of Lord Caitanya’s own prophecy.
By showing how Krishna is supremely loving and all-attractive, and by making Krishna easily accessible through the chanting of His names. Lord Caitanya has made it possible for us to shift our vision back to God once more.
This is necessary. Man and the world cannot answer to the demand we have placed upon them. Only Krishna and His transcendental kingdom, where He eternally revels in pastimes of love, can do that. This alone is the realm that is rich with infinite promise, beckoning to us with limitless possibilities.
Wednesday, March 20, 2019
The Islamic invasion of India and Afghanistan 1000 years ago. Either choose the Quran in one hand or get punished by the sword in the other!! (Choose life or be killed)
The sad "honest" history of Islam's invasion of the Indian subcontinent and forcible conversions to Islam that began almost 1000 years ago.
This is an important history lesson about Islams violent invasion and forcible conversions of India, South East Asia and Indonesia.
It was not until the end of the 13th century that the spread of Islam began in Indonesia
Primitive fundamentalist Islamic invaders from the middle East lead to India's division into there countries based on Religion today, India (Mostly Hindu), Pakistan (Muslim) and Bangladesh (Muslim).
When India was invaded in the 9th Century AD by fundamentalist Muslims, the Muslims went on violent murderous rampage from Village to Village fanatically preaching the Quran in one hand and the sword in the other, demanding that the Indian Hindu and Buddhist population choose the Quran.
Either choose the Quran in one hand or sword in the other!! (Life or death)
In this way sadly Millions of Hindus were forcibly converted to Islam and many more Hindu men, women and children and Buddhists were slaughtered over a period of 500 years.
Many Deities from the Vedic religion showing Lord Krishna and Narayana's form as the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, were smashed and destroyed because in Islam it is punishable by death to suggest God has a form.
Many Vedic scriptures were also destroyed by these fanatical sub-human barbarians from the Middle East with their hateful religion.
PHOTO - Young boy with Quran in one hand and dagger in the other that demands the people to ONLY choose one.
This is an important history lesson about Islams violent invasion and forcible conversions of India, South East Asia and Indonesia.
It was not until the end of the 13th century that the spread of Islam began in Indonesia
Primitive fundamentalist Islamic invaders from the middle East lead to India's division into there countries based on Religion today, India (Mostly Hindu), Pakistan (Muslim) and Bangladesh (Muslim).
When India was invaded in the 9th Century AD by fundamentalist Muslims, the Muslims went on violent murderous rampage from Village to Village fanatically preaching the Quran in one hand and the sword in the other, demanding that the Indian Hindu and Buddhist population choose the Quran.
In this way sadly Millions of Hindus were forcibly converted to Islam and many more Hindu men, women and children and Buddhists were slaughtered over a period of 500 years.
Many Deities from the Vedic religion showing Lord Krishna and Narayana's form as the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, were smashed and destroyed because in Islam it is punishable by death to suggest God has a form.
Many Vedic scriptures were also destroyed by these fanatical sub-human barbarians from the Middle East with their hateful religion.
PHOTO - Young boy with Quran in one hand and dagger in the other that demands the people to ONLY choose one.
Tuesday, March 19, 2019
‘The Orbits of the Planets’ from Srimad Bhagavatam's 5th Canto by His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
The Orbits of the Planets
Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 22
‘The Orbits of the Planets’ text 1 to text 17
By His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
In this chapter the orbits of the planets are described.
According to the movements of the moon and other planets, all the inhabitants of the universe are prone to auspicious and inauspicious situations. This is referred to as the influence of the stars.
The sun-god, who controls the affairs of the entire universe, especially in regard to heat, light, seasonal changes and so on, is considered an expansion of Nārāyaṇa. He represents the three Vedas —
Ṛg,
Yajur,
Sāma,
And therefore he is known as Trayīmaya, the form of Lord Nārāyaṇa.
Sometimes the sun-god is also called Sūrya Nārāyaṇa. The sun-god has expanded himself in twelve divisions, and thus he controls the six seasonal changes and causes winter, summer, rain and so on.
Yogīs and karmīs following the varṇāśrama institution, who practice haṭha or aṣṭāṅga-yoga or who perform agnihotra sacrifices, worship Sūrya Nārāyaṇa for their own benefit.
The demigod Sūrya is always in touch with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa.
Residing in outer space, which is in the middle of the universe, between Bhūloka and Bhuvarloka, the sun rotates through the time circle of the zodiac, represented by twelve rāśis, or signs, and assumes different names according to the sign he is in. For the moon, every month is divided into two fortnights.
Similarly, according to solar calculations, a month is equal to the time the sun spends in one constellation; two months constitute one season, and there are twelve months in a year.
The entire area of the sky is divided into two halves, each representing an ayana, the course traversed by the sun within a period of six months. The sun travels sometimes slowly, sometimes swiftly and sometimes at a moderate speed.
In this way it travels within the three worlds, consisting of the heavenly planets, the earthly planets and outer space. These orbits are referred to by great learned scholars by the names Saṁvatsara, Parivatsara, Iḍāvatsara, Anuvatsara and Vatsara.
The moon is situated 100,000 yojanas above the rays of the sunshine. Day and night on the heavenly planets and Pitṛloka are calculated according to its waning and waxing.
Above the moon by a distance of 200,000 yojanas are some stars, and above these stars is Śukra-graha (Venus), whose influence is always auspicious for the inhabitants of the entire universe.
Above Śukra-graha by 200,000 yojanas is Budha-graha (Mercury), whose influence is sometimes auspicious and sometimes inauspicious.
Next, above Budha-graha by 200,000 yojanas, is Aṅgāraka (Mars), which almost always has an unfavorable influence.
Above Aṅgāraka by another 200,000 yojanas is the planet called Bṛhaspati-graha (Jupiter), which is always very favorable for qualified brāhmaṇas.
Above Bṛhaspati-graha is the planet Śanaiścara (Saturn), which is very inauspicious, and above Saturn is a group of seven stars occupied by great saintly persons who are always thinking of the welfare of the entire universe.
These seven stars circumambulate Dhruvaloka, which is the residence of Lord Viṣṇu within this universe.
SB 5.22.1
Translation:
King Parīkṣit inquired from Śukadeva Gosvāmī: My dear lord, you have already affirmed the truth that the supremely powerful sun-god travels around Dhruvaloka with both Dhruvaloka and Mount Sumeru on his right.
Yet at the same time the sun-god faces the signs of the zodiac and keeps Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on his left. How can we reasonably accept that the sun-god proceeds with Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on both his left and right simultaneously?
SB 5.22.2
Translation:
Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī clearly answered: When a potter’s wheel is moving and small ants located on that big wheel are moving with it, one can see that their motion is different from that of the wheel because they appear sometimes on one part of the wheel and sometimes on another.
Similarly, the signs and constellations, with Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on their right, move with the wheel of time, and the antlike sun and other planets move with them.
The sun and planets, however, are seen in different signs and constellations at different times. This indicates that their motion is different from that of the zodiac and the wheel of time itself.
SB 5.22.3
Translation:
The original cause of the cosmic manifestation is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa.
When great saintly persons, fully aware of the Vedic knowledge, offered prayers to the Supreme Person, He descended to this material world in the form of the sun to benefit all the planets and purify fruitive activities.
He divided Himself into twelve parts and created seasonal forms, beginning with spring. In this way He created the seasonal qualities, such as heat, cold and so on.
SB 5.22.4
Translation:
According to the system of four varṇas and four āśramas, people generally worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa, who is situated as the sun-god.
With great faith they worship the Supreme Personality as the Supersoul according to ritualistic ceremonies handed down in the three Vedas, such as agnihotra and similar higher and lower fruitive acts, and according to the process of mystic yoga. In this way they very easily attain the ultimate goal of life.
SB 5.22.5
Translation:
The sun-god, who is Nārāyaṇa, or Viṣṇu, the soul of all the worlds, is situated in outer space between the upper and lower portions of the universe.
Passing through twelve months on the wheel of time, the sun comes in touch with twelve different signs of the zodiac and assumes twelve different names according to those signs.
The aggregate of those twelve months is called a saṁvatsara, or an entire year. According to lunar calculations, two fortnights — one of the waxing moon and the other of the waning — form one month.
That same period is one day and night for the planet Pitṛloka. According to stellar calculations, a month equals two and one quarter constellations. When the sun travels for two months, a season passes, and therefore the seasonal changes are considered parts of the body of the year.
SB 5.22.6
Translation:
Thus the time the sun takes to rotate through half of outer space is called an ayana, or its period of movement [in the north or in the south].
SB 5.22.7
Translation:
The sun-god has three speeds — slow, fast and moderate. The time he takes to travel entirely around the spheres of heaven, earth and space at these three speeds is referred to, by learned scholars, by the five names
Saṁvatsara,
Parivatsara,
Iḍāvatsara,
Anuvatsara,
Vatsara.
Purport:
According to solar astronomical calculations, each year extends six days beyond the calendar year, and according to lunar calculations, each year is six days shorter.
Therefore, because of the movements of the sun and moon, there is a difference of twelve days between the solar and lunar years.
As the Saṁvatsara, Parivatsara, Iḍāvatsara, Anuvatsara and Vatsara pass by, two extra months are added within each five years. This makes a sixth saṁvatsara, but because that saṁvatsara is extra, the solar system is calculated according to the above five names.
SB 5.22.8
Translation:
Above the rays of the sunshine by a distance of 100,000 yojanas [800,000 miles] is the moon, which travels at a speed faster than that of the sun.
In two lunar fortnights the moon travels through the equivalent of a saṁvatsara of the sun, in two and a quarter days it passes through a month of the sun, and in one day it passes through a fortnight of the sun.
Purport:
When we take into account that the moon is 100,000 yojanas, or 800,000 miles, above the rays of the sunshine, it is very surprising that the modern excursions to the moon could be possible.
Since the moon is so distant, how space vehicles could go there is a doubtful mystery.
Modern scientific calculations are subject to one change after another, and therefore they are uncertain. We have to accept the calculations of the Vedic literature.
These Vedic calculations are steady; the astronomical calculations made long ago and recorded in the Vedic literature are correct even now.
Whether the Vedic calculations or modern ones are better may remain a mystery for others, but as far as we are concerned, we accept the Vedic calculations to be correct.
SB 5.22.9
Translation:
When the moon is waxing, the illuminating portions of it increase daily, thus creating day for the demigods and night for the pitās.
When the moon is waning, however, it causes night for the demigods and day for the pitās.
In this way the moon passes through each constellation of stars in thirty muhūrtas [an entire day].
The moon is the source of nectarean coolness that influences the growth of food grains, and therefore the moon-god is considered the life of all living entities. He is consequently called Jīva, the chief living being within the universe.
SB 5.22.10
Translation:
Because the moon is full of all potentialities, it represents the influence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The moon is the predominating deity of everyone’s mind, and therefore the moon-god is called Manomaya.
He is also called Annamaya because he gives potency to all herbs and plants, and he is called Amṛtamaya because he is the source of life for all living entities.
The moon pleases the demigods, pitās, human beings, animals, birds, reptiles, trees, plants and all other living entities. Everyone is satisfied by the presence of the moon. Therefore the moon is also called Sarvamaya [all-pervading].
SB 5.22.11
Translation:
There are many stars located 200,000 yojanas [1,600,000 miles] above the moon.
By the supreme will of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they are fixed to the wheel of time, and thus they rotate with Mount Sumeru on their right, their motion being different from that of the sun.
There are twenty-eight important stars, headed by Abhijit.
Purport:
The stars referred to herein are 1,600,000 miles above the sun, and thus they are 4,000,000 miles above the earth.
SB 5.22.12
Translation:
Some 1,600,000 miles above this group of stars is the planet Venus, which moves at almost exactly the same pace as the sun according to swift, slow and moderate movements. Sometimes Venus moves behind the sun, sometimes in front of the sun and sometimes along with it.
Venus nullifies the influence of planets that are obstacles to rainfall. Consequently its presence causes rainfall, and it is therefore considered very favorable for all living beings within this universe. This has been accepted by learned scholars.
SB 5.22.13
Translation:
Mercury is described to be similar to Venus, in that it moves sometimes behind the sun, sometimes in front of the sun and sometimes along with it. It is 1,600,000 miles above Venus, or 7,200,000 miles above earth.
Mercury, which is the son of the moon, is almost always very auspicious for the inhabitants of the universe, but when it does not move along with the sun, it forbodes cyclones, dust, irregular rainfall, and waterless clouds. In this way it creates fearful conditions due to inadequate or excessive rainfall.
SB 5.22.14
Translation:
Situated 1,600,000 miles above Mercury, or 8,800,000 miles above earth, is the planet Mars.
If this planet does not travel in a crooked way, it crosses through each sign of the zodiac in three fortnights and in this way travels through all twelve, one after another.
It almost always creates unfavorable conditions in respect to rainfall and other influences.
SB 5.22.15
Translation:
Situated 1,600,000 miles above Mars, or 10,400,000 miles above earth, is the planet Jupiter, which travels through one sign of the zodiac within the period of a Parivatsara.
If its movement is not curved, the planet Jupiter is very favorable to the brāhmaṇas of the universe.
SB 5.22.16
Translation:
Situated 1,600,000 miles above Jupiter, or 12,000,000 miles above earth, is the planet Saturn, which passes through one sign of the zodiac in thirty months and covers the entire zodiac circle in thirty Anuvatsaras. This planet is always very inauspicious for the universal situation.
SB 5.22.17
Translation:
Situated 8,800,000 miles above Saturn, or 20,800,000 miles above earth, are the seven saintly sages, who are always thinking of the well-being of the inhabitants of the universe. They circumambulate the supreme abode of Lord Viṣṇu, known as Dhruvaloka, the polestar.
Purport:
Śrīla Madhvācārya quotes the following verse from the Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa:
jñānānandātmano viṣṇuḥ
śiśumāra-vapuṣy atha
ūrdhva-lokeṣu sa vyāpta
ādityādyās tad-āśritā
“Lord Viṣṇu, who is the source of knowledge and transcendental bliss, has assumed the form of Śiśumāra in the seventh heaven, which is situated in the topmost level of the universe.
All the other planets, beginning with the sun, exist under the shelter of this Śiśumāra planetary system.”
Bhaktivedanta purports of the Fifth Canto, Twenty-second Chapter, of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled “The Orbits of the Planets.”
Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 22
‘The Orbits of the Planets’ text 1 to text 17
By His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
In this chapter the orbits of the planets are described.
According to the movements of the moon and other planets, all the inhabitants of the universe are prone to auspicious and inauspicious situations. This is referred to as the influence of the stars.
The sun-god, who controls the affairs of the entire universe, especially in regard to heat, light, seasonal changes and so on, is considered an expansion of Nārāyaṇa. He represents the three Vedas —
Ṛg,
Yajur,
Sāma,
And therefore he is known as Trayīmaya, the form of Lord Nārāyaṇa.
Sometimes the sun-god is also called Sūrya Nārāyaṇa. The sun-god has expanded himself in twelve divisions, and thus he controls the six seasonal changes and causes winter, summer, rain and so on.
Yogīs and karmīs following the varṇāśrama institution, who practice haṭha or aṣṭāṅga-yoga or who perform agnihotra sacrifices, worship Sūrya Nārāyaṇa for their own benefit.
The demigod Sūrya is always in touch with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa.
Residing in outer space, which is in the middle of the universe, between Bhūloka and Bhuvarloka, the sun rotates through the time circle of the zodiac, represented by twelve rāśis, or signs, and assumes different names according to the sign he is in. For the moon, every month is divided into two fortnights.
Similarly, according to solar calculations, a month is equal to the time the sun spends in one constellation; two months constitute one season, and there are twelve months in a year.
The entire area of the sky is divided into two halves, each representing an ayana, the course traversed by the sun within a period of six months. The sun travels sometimes slowly, sometimes swiftly and sometimes at a moderate speed.
In this way it travels within the three worlds, consisting of the heavenly planets, the earthly planets and outer space. These orbits are referred to by great learned scholars by the names Saṁvatsara, Parivatsara, Iḍāvatsara, Anuvatsara and Vatsara.
The moon is situated 100,000 yojanas above the rays of the sunshine. Day and night on the heavenly planets and Pitṛloka are calculated according to its waning and waxing.
Above the moon by a distance of 200,000 yojanas are some stars, and above these stars is Śukra-graha (Venus), whose influence is always auspicious for the inhabitants of the entire universe.
Above Śukra-graha by 200,000 yojanas is Budha-graha (Mercury), whose influence is sometimes auspicious and sometimes inauspicious.
Next, above Budha-graha by 200,000 yojanas, is Aṅgāraka (Mars), which almost always has an unfavorable influence.
Above Aṅgāraka by another 200,000 yojanas is the planet called Bṛhaspati-graha (Jupiter), which is always very favorable for qualified brāhmaṇas.
Above Bṛhaspati-graha is the planet Śanaiścara (Saturn), which is very inauspicious, and above Saturn is a group of seven stars occupied by great saintly persons who are always thinking of the welfare of the entire universe.
These seven stars circumambulate Dhruvaloka, which is the residence of Lord Viṣṇu within this universe.
SB 5.22.1
Translation:
King Parīkṣit inquired from Śukadeva Gosvāmī: My dear lord, you have already affirmed the truth that the supremely powerful sun-god travels around Dhruvaloka with both Dhruvaloka and Mount Sumeru on his right.
Yet at the same time the sun-god faces the signs of the zodiac and keeps Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on his left. How can we reasonably accept that the sun-god proceeds with Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on both his left and right simultaneously?
SB 5.22.2
Translation:
Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī clearly answered: When a potter’s wheel is moving and small ants located on that big wheel are moving with it, one can see that their motion is different from that of the wheel because they appear sometimes on one part of the wheel and sometimes on another.
Similarly, the signs and constellations, with Sumeru and Dhruvaloka on their right, move with the wheel of time, and the antlike sun and other planets move with them.
The sun and planets, however, are seen in different signs and constellations at different times. This indicates that their motion is different from that of the zodiac and the wheel of time itself.
SB 5.22.3
Translation:
The original cause of the cosmic manifestation is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa.
When great saintly persons, fully aware of the Vedic knowledge, offered prayers to the Supreme Person, He descended to this material world in the form of the sun to benefit all the planets and purify fruitive activities.
He divided Himself into twelve parts and created seasonal forms, beginning with spring. In this way He created the seasonal qualities, such as heat, cold and so on.
SB 5.22.4
Translation:
According to the system of four varṇas and four āśramas, people generally worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Nārāyaṇa, who is situated as the sun-god.
With great faith they worship the Supreme Personality as the Supersoul according to ritualistic ceremonies handed down in the three Vedas, such as agnihotra and similar higher and lower fruitive acts, and according to the process of mystic yoga. In this way they very easily attain the ultimate goal of life.
SB 5.22.5
Translation:
The sun-god, who is Nārāyaṇa, or Viṣṇu, the soul of all the worlds, is situated in outer space between the upper and lower portions of the universe.
Passing through twelve months on the wheel of time, the sun comes in touch with twelve different signs of the zodiac and assumes twelve different names according to those signs.
The aggregate of those twelve months is called a saṁvatsara, or an entire year. According to lunar calculations, two fortnights — one of the waxing moon and the other of the waning — form one month.
That same period is one day and night for the planet Pitṛloka. According to stellar calculations, a month equals two and one quarter constellations. When the sun travels for two months, a season passes, and therefore the seasonal changes are considered parts of the body of the year.
SB 5.22.6
Translation:
Thus the time the sun takes to rotate through half of outer space is called an ayana, or its period of movement [in the north or in the south].
SB 5.22.7
Translation:
The sun-god has three speeds — slow, fast and moderate. The time he takes to travel entirely around the spheres of heaven, earth and space at these three speeds is referred to, by learned scholars, by the five names
Saṁvatsara,
Parivatsara,
Iḍāvatsara,
Anuvatsara,
Vatsara.
Purport:
According to solar astronomical calculations, each year extends six days beyond the calendar year, and according to lunar calculations, each year is six days shorter.
Therefore, because of the movements of the sun and moon, there is a difference of twelve days between the solar and lunar years.
As the Saṁvatsara, Parivatsara, Iḍāvatsara, Anuvatsara and Vatsara pass by, two extra months are added within each five years. This makes a sixth saṁvatsara, but because that saṁvatsara is extra, the solar system is calculated according to the above five names.
SB 5.22.8
Translation:
Above the rays of the sunshine by a distance of 100,000 yojanas [800,000 miles] is the moon, which travels at a speed faster than that of the sun.
In two lunar fortnights the moon travels through the equivalent of a saṁvatsara of the sun, in two and a quarter days it passes through a month of the sun, and in one day it passes through a fortnight of the sun.
Purport:
When we take into account that the moon is 100,000 yojanas, or 800,000 miles, above the rays of the sunshine, it is very surprising that the modern excursions to the moon could be possible.
Since the moon is so distant, how space vehicles could go there is a doubtful mystery.
Modern scientific calculations are subject to one change after another, and therefore they are uncertain. We have to accept the calculations of the Vedic literature.
These Vedic calculations are steady; the astronomical calculations made long ago and recorded in the Vedic literature are correct even now.
Whether the Vedic calculations or modern ones are better may remain a mystery for others, but as far as we are concerned, we accept the Vedic calculations to be correct.
SB 5.22.9
Translation:
When the moon is waxing, the illuminating portions of it increase daily, thus creating day for the demigods and night for the pitās.
When the moon is waning, however, it causes night for the demigods and day for the pitās.
In this way the moon passes through each constellation of stars in thirty muhūrtas [an entire day].
The moon is the source of nectarean coolness that influences the growth of food grains, and therefore the moon-god is considered the life of all living entities. He is consequently called Jīva, the chief living being within the universe.
SB 5.22.10
Translation:
Because the moon is full of all potentialities, it represents the influence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The moon is the predominating deity of everyone’s mind, and therefore the moon-god is called Manomaya.
He is also called Annamaya because he gives potency to all herbs and plants, and he is called Amṛtamaya because he is the source of life for all living entities.
The moon pleases the demigods, pitās, human beings, animals, birds, reptiles, trees, plants and all other living entities. Everyone is satisfied by the presence of the moon. Therefore the moon is also called Sarvamaya [all-pervading].
SB 5.22.11
Translation:
There are many stars located 200,000 yojanas [1,600,000 miles] above the moon.
By the supreme will of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they are fixed to the wheel of time, and thus they rotate with Mount Sumeru on their right, their motion being different from that of the sun.
There are twenty-eight important stars, headed by Abhijit.
Purport:
The stars referred to herein are 1,600,000 miles above the sun, and thus they are 4,000,000 miles above the earth.
SB 5.22.12
Translation:
Some 1,600,000 miles above this group of stars is the planet Venus, which moves at almost exactly the same pace as the sun according to swift, slow and moderate movements. Sometimes Venus moves behind the sun, sometimes in front of the sun and sometimes along with it.
Venus nullifies the influence of planets that are obstacles to rainfall. Consequently its presence causes rainfall, and it is therefore considered very favorable for all living beings within this universe. This has been accepted by learned scholars.
SB 5.22.13
Translation:
Mercury is described to be similar to Venus, in that it moves sometimes behind the sun, sometimes in front of the sun and sometimes along with it. It is 1,600,000 miles above Venus, or 7,200,000 miles above earth.
Mercury, which is the son of the moon, is almost always very auspicious for the inhabitants of the universe, but when it does not move along with the sun, it forbodes cyclones, dust, irregular rainfall, and waterless clouds. In this way it creates fearful conditions due to inadequate or excessive rainfall.
SB 5.22.14
Translation:
Situated 1,600,000 miles above Mercury, or 8,800,000 miles above earth, is the planet Mars.
If this planet does not travel in a crooked way, it crosses through each sign of the zodiac in three fortnights and in this way travels through all twelve, one after another.
It almost always creates unfavorable conditions in respect to rainfall and other influences.
SB 5.22.15
Translation:
Situated 1,600,000 miles above Mars, or 10,400,000 miles above earth, is the planet Jupiter, which travels through one sign of the zodiac within the period of a Parivatsara.
If its movement is not curved, the planet Jupiter is very favorable to the brāhmaṇas of the universe.
SB 5.22.16
Translation:
Situated 1,600,000 miles above Jupiter, or 12,000,000 miles above earth, is the planet Saturn, which passes through one sign of the zodiac in thirty months and covers the entire zodiac circle in thirty Anuvatsaras. This planet is always very inauspicious for the universal situation.
SB 5.22.17
Translation:
Situated 8,800,000 miles above Saturn, or 20,800,000 miles above earth, are the seven saintly sages, who are always thinking of the well-being of the inhabitants of the universe. They circumambulate the supreme abode of Lord Viṣṇu, known as Dhruvaloka, the polestar.
Purport:
Śrīla Madhvācārya quotes the following verse from the Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa:
jñānānandātmano viṣṇuḥ
śiśumāra-vapuṣy atha
ūrdhva-lokeṣu sa vyāpta
ādityādyās tad-āśritā
“Lord Viṣṇu, who is the source of knowledge and transcendental bliss, has assumed the form of Śiśumāra in the seventh heaven, which is situated in the topmost level of the universe.
All the other planets, beginning with the sun, exist under the shelter of this Śiśumāra planetary system.”
Bhaktivedanta purports of the Fifth Canto, Twenty-second Chapter, of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled “The Orbits of the Planets.”
Monday, March 18, 2019
Maybe the single material Universe we are in size is like a ''HALL OF MIRRORS'' a universe made bigger by reflecting it's own universal bodies like putting mirrors on the walls, roof and floor around a small room that makes the room look huge and endless.
This single Material Universe we are in maybe like a ''hall of mirrors''
According to Srimad Bhagavatam we cannot see other Brahmandas or material universe through the different layers of earth or solid rock, fire, air, water, etc that are Quadrillions of miles thick making up our own Brahmanda or universe.
Srila Prabhupada explains we cannot see other universe or Brahmandas from so deep within our Brahmanda (large universe coming fron the body of Maha Vishnu seen below in painting).
Some have speculated that our small Bhu-Mandala universe with its 14 different Planetary Systems deep within the surrounding Brahmanda that is 4 billion miles in diameter and 12 billion 340 million miles in circumference is maybe having a ”hall of mirrors” effect within our own Bhu-Mandala universe or like seeing a mirage in a desert that is an illusion.
Many ask how does Bhagavatam explain the Hubble Telescopes view of the universe that modern science claims expands to about 90 billion light years when Bhagavatam says it is a mere 4 billion miles in diameter and at the speed of light is traveled through in 90 minutes.
The suggestion is all the various so called galaxies maybe simply reflections of our own universe's Planetary Systems like in a ”hall of mirrors” that make the room look a lot bigger than what it is when the floor, roof and walls are all mirrors.
After all no one has traveled deep within space, according to NASA the furthest man has traveled is 238,000 miles away from earth when they apparently went to the Moon that many devotees question, but that is another story.
Modern sciences exploration of Space and understanding comes from telescopes and space probes and Satellites.
It is suggest that many clusters of galaxies seen are reflections of this solar system we are in, the fact is no one knows.
Other devotees like Danavir Maharaj, Sadaputa dasa, Mayesa Dasa, Rajasekhara Das Brahmachari, Richard Cole Radhamohan have all tried to answer this but they also do not know and only have an opinion.
Nothing in sastra will explain why we see other galaxies that make this universe so large when it is only 4 billion miles in diameter and 12 billion 340 million miles in circumference.
Maybe the ”Hall of mirrors” is the best answer.
According to Srimad Bhagavatam we cannot see other Brahmandas or material universe through the different layers of earth or solid rock, fire, air, water, etc that are Quadrillions of miles thick making up our own Brahmanda or universe.
Srila Prabhupada explains we cannot see other universe or Brahmandas from so deep within our Brahmanda (large universe coming fron the body of Maha Vishnu seen below in painting).
Some have speculated that our small Bhu-Mandala universe with its 14 different Planetary Systems deep within the surrounding Brahmanda that is 4 billion miles in diameter and 12 billion 340 million miles in circumference is maybe having a ”hall of mirrors” effect within our own Bhu-Mandala universe or like seeing a mirage in a desert that is an illusion.
Many ask how does Bhagavatam explain the Hubble Telescopes view of the universe that modern science claims expands to about 90 billion light years when Bhagavatam says it is a mere 4 billion miles in diameter and at the speed of light is traveled through in 90 minutes.
The suggestion is all the various so called galaxies maybe simply reflections of our own universe's Planetary Systems like in a ”hall of mirrors” that make the room look a lot bigger than what it is when the floor, roof and walls are all mirrors.
After all no one has traveled deep within space, according to NASA the furthest man has traveled is 238,000 miles away from earth when they apparently went to the Moon that many devotees question, but that is another story.
Modern sciences exploration of Space and understanding comes from telescopes and space probes and Satellites.
It is suggest that many clusters of galaxies seen are reflections of this solar system we are in, the fact is no one knows.
Other devotees like Danavir Maharaj, Sadaputa dasa, Mayesa Dasa, Rajasekhara Das Brahmachari, Richard Cole Radhamohan have all tried to answer this but they also do not know and only have an opinion.
Nothing in sastra will explain why we see other galaxies that make this universe so large when it is only 4 billion miles in diameter and 12 billion 340 million miles in circumference.
Maybe the ”Hall of mirrors” is the best answer.
Sunday, March 17, 2019
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena of Sankirtan, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly to spread the mission of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
Everyone who is absorbed in the great arena of Sankirtan forgets the fault finders and envious critics who can only watch from the sidelines.
"It is not the critic who counts; nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs,
who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement,
And who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
(Theodore Roosevelt 26th President of the United States)
"It is not the critic who counts; nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs,
who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement,
And who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
(Theodore Roosevelt 26th President of the United States)
Who knows what pious or impious actions each of us have done over millions of life times?
And who knows what each of us have done over a million life times?
We must never forget as devotees the purpose of being serverly punished for one's sins is meant to eventually rehabilitate the fallen soul, NOT to annihilate him which is not possible anyway.
As the Bhagavad Gita tells us, the jiva soul is beginningless and endless and CANNOT be destroyed in anyway when the gross material body decays and fades away no matter WHAT sinful acts are performed!!
Everyone, even Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, Bundy, Dharma get another chance.
The fact is, all of us in previous lives have done horrible nasty unspeakable things otherwise how else have we ended up in this degrading Kali-yuga?
Prabhupada once said "demons" in Satya yuga take birth in Kali-yuga as sinful lusty meat eaters (Conversation with devotees in room Febuary 1973 Sydney Australia)
Also the nonsense Christian concept of "Eternal Damnation" is total fantasy to a devotee of Krishna,
Everyone gets UNLIMITED CHANCES once their sins are paid for, they just try again!
There is no such thing as a permanent hell
The fallen jiva HAS to pay dearly for their sins of abuse, exploitation, arrogent pride and patronizing others.
The endeavour of seeking perfection will always continue no matter what one has done, this endevour may take a long, long time as Gita tells us, taking many, many births before one AGAIN becomes sinless, a pure devotee of Krishna and reaching their ORIGINAL possition from where they fell from.
So in this life, if one takes genuinely to Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement, then even the biggest PERVERT WILL be saved!! 🎩
We must never forget as devotees the purpose of being serverly punished for one's sins is meant to eventually rehabilitate the fallen soul, NOT to annihilate him which is not possible anyway.
As the Bhagavad Gita tells us, the jiva soul is beginningless and endless and CANNOT be destroyed in anyway when the gross material body decays and fades away no matter WHAT sinful acts are performed!!
Everyone, even Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, Bundy, Dharma get another chance.
The fact is, all of us in previous lives have done horrible nasty unspeakable things otherwise how else have we ended up in this degrading Kali-yuga?
Prabhupada once said "demons" in Satya yuga take birth in Kali-yuga as sinful lusty meat eaters (Conversation with devotees in room Febuary 1973 Sydney Australia)
Also the nonsense Christian concept of "Eternal Damnation" is total fantasy to a devotee of Krishna,
Everyone gets UNLIMITED CHANCES once their sins are paid for, they just try again!
There is no such thing as a permanent hell
The fallen jiva HAS to pay dearly for their sins of abuse, exploitation, arrogent pride and patronizing others.
The endeavour of seeking perfection will always continue no matter what one has done, this endevour may take a long, long time as Gita tells us, taking many, many births before one AGAIN becomes sinless, a pure devotee of Krishna and reaching their ORIGINAL possition from where they fell from.
So in this life, if one takes genuinely to Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement, then even the biggest PERVERT WILL be saved!! 🎩
Only a cruel uncaring unloving bogus God would teach "Eternal Damnation"
Do devotees of Lord Krishna believe in the Christian belief of "Eternal Damnation" for horrible sinful acts?
The purpose for server hash punishment for unspeakable sins like child abuse and selfish exploitation, IS needed to teach those souls who choose such degradation a lesson.
All punishments in the material world are really meant for rehabilitation.
A devotee of Krishna understands such punishment is meant to eventually rehabilitate the fallen soul and NEVER attempt to annihilate him/her as some wrongly believe and teach in some religions.
Such wishful thinking by those with limited knowledge only see the material bodily vessel or container the soul is trapped in while in the material creation, is not possible anyway because the soul within is eternal, without a beginning or end nor can it ever be destroyed.
As Gita tells us, the jiva is beginningless and endless and cannot be destroyed when the material body is destroyed no matter what sinful adts one has performed.
Punishment and reward (karma) in the material creation are NOT forever! Which means the Christian concept of "Eternal Damnation" is total fantasy to a devotee of Krishna.
Any God that casts one to an "eternal hell fire" to burn in hell forever, is a cruel uncaring unloving God that should be rejected.
Of course the fallen jivas who have performed horrible deeds, does HAVE to pay dearly for their sins of abuse and exploitation that may take many, many births to atone.
The point is, punishment is meant to rehabilitate the offenders and not condemn him/her to an eternal hell.
Sometimes in server cases, the death penality is also needed as punishment and atonement however, that simply means the slate will be cleaned for the next birth because they paid their debt in this life with the "death penalty".
Or for how many births it takes to atone for what ever horrible sinful degrading acts one has done.
And yes, often it does take many, many, many births of suffering in broken material bodies.
But if one takes genuinely to Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement then they can save themselves from a lot of suffering over many horrible births in the material world.
The purpose for server hash punishment for unspeakable sins like child abuse and selfish exploitation, IS needed to teach those souls who choose such degradation a lesson.
All punishments in the material world are really meant for rehabilitation.
A devotee of Krishna understands such punishment is meant to eventually rehabilitate the fallen soul and NEVER attempt to annihilate him/her as some wrongly believe and teach in some religions.
Such wishful thinking by those with limited knowledge only see the material bodily vessel or container the soul is trapped in while in the material creation, is not possible anyway because the soul within is eternal, without a beginning or end nor can it ever be destroyed.
As Gita tells us, the jiva is beginningless and endless and cannot be destroyed when the material body is destroyed no matter what sinful adts one has performed.
Punishment and reward (karma) in the material creation are NOT forever! Which means the Christian concept of "Eternal Damnation" is total fantasy to a devotee of Krishna.
Any God that casts one to an "eternal hell fire" to burn in hell forever, is a cruel uncaring unloving God that should be rejected.
Of course the fallen jivas who have performed horrible deeds, does HAVE to pay dearly for their sins of abuse and exploitation that may take many, many births to atone.
The point is, punishment is meant to rehabilitate the offenders and not condemn him/her to an eternal hell.
Sometimes in server cases, the death penality is also needed as punishment and atonement however, that simply means the slate will be cleaned for the next birth because they paid their debt in this life with the "death penalty".
Or for how many births it takes to atone for what ever horrible sinful degrading acts one has done.
And yes, often it does take many, many, many births of suffering in broken material bodies.
But if one takes genuinely to Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement then they can save themselves from a lot of suffering over many horrible births in the material world.
Friday, March 15, 2019
Explaining the division in Spiritual Sky between the Spiritual (75%) and material (25%) Worlds and Lord Krishna's 64 qualities.
Explaining the division in Spiritual Sky between the Spiritual and material Worlds and Lord Krishna's 64 qualities.
Here is explained the 64 Qualities of Lord Krishna (God) who has the full potential of 100% of His own unique qualities being the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.
Lord Krishna is the maintainer of all Spiritual and Material Universes that exist in a beginningless and endless Spiritual Sky.
75% of the Spiritual Sky are the perpetual Vaikuntha Planets and Goloka Vrindavana that are ever fresh and never experience decay.
Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana have no beginning meaning these blissful abodes of the Lord have eternally existed and will never cease to exist .
The other 25% of the Spiritual Sky is a temporary manifestation always in a state of decay, death and and rebirth.
The material creation is also known as the Maha-tattva that is in a constant state of decline and decomposition where all souls who enter, are covered by its material energy that manifests as a temporary material bodily vessel or container that also exhibits a constant state of decay from birth, youth, middle age, old age and death.
Everything in the temporary material world man possesses is in a constant state of decline and decomposition and therefore always needs maintenance and renewal.
Lord Krishna and His devotees on the other hand, are not effected by this dark decaying material cloud that is in one corner of the Spiritual Sky
The material World is NOT eternal, it was created by Maha Vishnu and known as His prison house creation meant for the rebellious souls who have no interest in serving Krishna or Narayana (Vishnu) in Goloka Vrindavana or Vaikuntha.
Lord Krishna's Sixty four transcendental qualities.
It is important to understand that Krishna has four more qualities that none of His expasions have.
This means the four additional qualities are not manifest even in His brother Balarama and His 4 armed Narayana or Vishnu forms of Godhead which includes Maha Vishnu, Garbhodakashayi Vishnu etc.
1 - All the Narayana or Vishnu forms have 93% of Krishna's qualities.
2 - Lord Shiva is in a category of his own and has 84% of Krishna's qualities
3 - Lord Brahma and all marginal living entities (jiva tattvas or jivatmas) have 78% of Krishna's qualities.
Less than 10% of marginal living entities are imprisoned in this material creation.
All marginal living entities have 78% of Krishna's qualities.
All marginal living entities that enter the material creation, are covered by one of the 8 million 400 thousand material bodily containers or vessels that make up all the species of life in the material Universes.
Lord Krishna's unique 4 extra qualities that not even Vishnu has in full are as follows: -
(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).
(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.
(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.
(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty which cannot be rivaled anywhere in the creation.
Shrila Rupa Gosvami, after consulting various scriptures, has enumerated the transcendental qualities of the Lord Shri Krishna as follows:
(1) beautiful features of the entire body;
(2) marked with all auspicious characteristics;
(3) extremely pleasing;
(4) effulgent;
(5) strong;
(6) ever youthful;
(7) wonderful linguist;
(8) truthful;
(9) talks pleasingly;
(10) fluent;
(11) highly learned;
(12) highly intelligent;
(13) a genius;
(14) artistic;
(15) extremely clever;
(16) expert;
(17) grateful;
(18) firmly determined;
(19) an expert judge of time and circumstances;
(20) sees and speaks on the authority of Vedas, or scriptures;
(21) pure;
(22) self-controlled;
(23) steadfast;
(24) forbearing;
(25) forgiving;
(26) grave;
(27) self-satisfied;
(28) possessing equilibrium;
(29) magnanimous;
(30) religious;
(31) heroic;
(32) compassionate;
(33) respectful;
(34) gentle;
(35) liberal;
(36) shy;
(37) the protector of surrendered souls;
(38) happy;
(39) the well-wisher of devotees;
(40) controlled by love;
(41) all-auspicious;
(42) most powerful;
(43) all-famous;
(44) popular;
(45) partial to devotees;
(46) very attractive to all women;
(47) all-worshipable;
(48) all-opulent;
(49) all-honorable;
(50) the supreme controller.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead has all these fifty transcendental qualities in fullness as deep as the ocean. In other words, the extent of His qualities is inconceivable.
As parts and parcels of the Supreme Lord, the individual living entities can also possess all of these qualities in minute quantities, provided they become pure devotees of the Lord.
In other words, all of the above transcendental qualities can be present in the devotees in minute quantity, whereas the qualities in fullness are always present in the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Besides these, there are other transcendental qualities which are described by Lord Siva to Parvati in the Padma Purana, and in the First Canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam in connection with a conversation between the deity of the earth and the King of religion, Yamaraja.
It is said therein, "Persons who who are desirous of becoming great personalities must be decorated with the following qualities:
truthfulness,
cleanliness,
mercy,
perseverance,
renunciation,
peacefulness,
simplicity,
control of the senses,
equilibrium of the mind,
austerity,
equality,
forbearance,
placidity,
learning,
knowledge,
detachment,
opulence,
chivalry,
influence,
strength,
memory,
independence,
tactfulness,
luster,
patience,
kind-heartedness,
ingenuity,
gentility,
mannerliness,
determination,
perfection in all knowledge,
proper execution,
possession of all objects of enjoyment,
gravity,
steadiness,
faithfulness,
fame,
respectfulness and lack of false egotism."
Persons who are desiring to become great souls cannot be without any of the above qualities, so we can know for certain that these qualities are found in Lord Krishna, the supreme soul.
Besides all of the above-mentioned fifty qualities, Lord Krishna possesses five more, which are sometimes partially manifested in the persons of Lord Brahma or Lord Siva.
These transcendental qualities are as follows:
(51) changeless;
(52) all-cognizant;
(53) ever fresh;
(54) sac-cid-ananda (possessing an eternal blissful body);
(55) possessing all mystic perfections.
Krishna also possesses five other qualities, which are manifest in the body of Narayana, and they are listed as follows:
(56) He has inconceivable potency.
(57) Uncountable universes generate from His body.
(58) He is the original source of all incarnations.
(59) He is the giver of salvation to the enemies whom He kills.
(60) He is the attractor of liberated souls.
All these transcendental qualities are manifest wonderfully in the personal feature of Lord Krishna.
Besides these sixty transcendental qualities, Krishna has four more, which are not manifest even in the Narayana form of Godhead, what to speak of the demigods or living entities:
(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).
(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.
(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.
(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty which cannot be rivaled anywhere in the creation.
Adding to the list these four exceptional qualities of Krishna, it is to be understood that the aggregate number of qualities of Krishna is sixty-four.
(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).
(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.
(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.
(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty which cannot be rivaled anywhere in the creation.
Srila Rupa Gosvami has attempted to give evidences from various scriptures about all sixty-four qualities present in the person of the Supreme Lord Shri Krishna.
Here is explained the 64 Qualities of Lord Krishna (God) who has the full potential of 100% of His own unique qualities being the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.
Lord Krishna is the maintainer of all Spiritual and Material Universes that exist in a beginningless and endless Spiritual Sky.
75% of the Spiritual Sky are the perpetual Vaikuntha Planets and Goloka Vrindavana that are ever fresh and never experience decay.
Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana have no beginning meaning these blissful abodes of the Lord have eternally existed and will never cease to exist .
The other 25% of the Spiritual Sky is a temporary manifestation always in a state of decay, death and and rebirth.
The material creation is also known as the Maha-tattva that is in a constant state of decline and decomposition where all souls who enter, are covered by its material energy that manifests as a temporary material bodily vessel or container that also exhibits a constant state of decay from birth, youth, middle age, old age and death.
Everything in the temporary material world man possesses is in a constant state of decline and decomposition and therefore always needs maintenance and renewal.
Lord Krishna and His devotees on the other hand, are not effected by this dark decaying material cloud that is in one corner of the Spiritual Sky
The material World is NOT eternal, it was created by Maha Vishnu and known as His prison house creation meant for the rebellious souls who have no interest in serving Krishna or Narayana (Vishnu) in Goloka Vrindavana or Vaikuntha.
Lord Krishna's Sixty four transcendental qualities.
It is important to understand that Krishna has four more qualities that none of His expasions have.
This means the four additional qualities are not manifest even in His brother Balarama and His 4 armed Narayana or Vishnu forms of Godhead which includes Maha Vishnu, Garbhodakashayi Vishnu etc.
1 - All the Narayana or Vishnu forms have 93% of Krishna's qualities.
2 - Lord Shiva is in a category of his own and has 84% of Krishna's qualities
3 - Lord Brahma and all marginal living entities (jiva tattvas or jivatmas) have 78% of Krishna's qualities.
Less than 10% of marginal living entities are imprisoned in this material creation.
All marginal living entities have 78% of Krishna's qualities.
All marginal living entities that enter the material creation, are covered by one of the 8 million 400 thousand material bodily containers or vessels that make up all the species of life in the material Universes.
Lord Krishna's unique 4 extra qualities that not even Vishnu has in full are as follows: -
(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).
(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.
(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.
(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty which cannot be rivaled anywhere in the creation.
Shrila Rupa Gosvami, after consulting various scriptures, has enumerated the transcendental qualities of the Lord Shri Krishna as follows:
(1) beautiful features of the entire body;
(2) marked with all auspicious characteristics;
(3) extremely pleasing;
(4) effulgent;
(5) strong;
(6) ever youthful;
(7) wonderful linguist;
(8) truthful;
(9) talks pleasingly;
(10) fluent;
(11) highly learned;
(12) highly intelligent;
(13) a genius;
(14) artistic;
(15) extremely clever;
(16) expert;
(17) grateful;
(18) firmly determined;
(19) an expert judge of time and circumstances;
(20) sees and speaks on the authority of Vedas, or scriptures;
(21) pure;
(22) self-controlled;
(23) steadfast;
(24) forbearing;
(25) forgiving;
(26) grave;
(27) self-satisfied;
(28) possessing equilibrium;
(29) magnanimous;
(30) religious;
(31) heroic;
(32) compassionate;
(33) respectful;
(34) gentle;
(35) liberal;
(36) shy;
(37) the protector of surrendered souls;
(38) happy;
(39) the well-wisher of devotees;
(40) controlled by love;
(41) all-auspicious;
(42) most powerful;
(43) all-famous;
(44) popular;
(45) partial to devotees;
(46) very attractive to all women;
(47) all-worshipable;
(48) all-opulent;
(49) all-honorable;
(50) the supreme controller.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead has all these fifty transcendental qualities in fullness as deep as the ocean. In other words, the extent of His qualities is inconceivable.
As parts and parcels of the Supreme Lord, the individual living entities can also possess all of these qualities in minute quantities, provided they become pure devotees of the Lord.
In other words, all of the above transcendental qualities can be present in the devotees in minute quantity, whereas the qualities in fullness are always present in the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Besides these, there are other transcendental qualities which are described by Lord Siva to Parvati in the Padma Purana, and in the First Canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam in connection with a conversation between the deity of the earth and the King of religion, Yamaraja.
It is said therein, "Persons who who are desirous of becoming great personalities must be decorated with the following qualities:
truthfulness,
cleanliness,
mercy,
perseverance,
renunciation,
peacefulness,
simplicity,
control of the senses,
equilibrium of the mind,
austerity,
equality,
forbearance,
placidity,
learning,
knowledge,
detachment,
opulence,
chivalry,
influence,
strength,
memory,
independence,
tactfulness,
luster,
patience,
kind-heartedness,
ingenuity,
gentility,
mannerliness,
determination,
perfection in all knowledge,
proper execution,
possession of all objects of enjoyment,
gravity,
steadiness,
faithfulness,
fame,
respectfulness and lack of false egotism."
Persons who are desiring to become great souls cannot be without any of the above qualities, so we can know for certain that these qualities are found in Lord Krishna, the supreme soul.
Besides all of the above-mentioned fifty qualities, Lord Krishna possesses five more, which are sometimes partially manifested in the persons of Lord Brahma or Lord Siva.
These transcendental qualities are as follows:
(51) changeless;
(52) all-cognizant;
(53) ever fresh;
(54) sac-cid-ananda (possessing an eternal blissful body);
(55) possessing all mystic perfections.
Krishna also possesses five other qualities, which are manifest in the body of Narayana, and they are listed as follows:
(56) He has inconceivable potency.
(57) Uncountable universes generate from His body.
(58) He is the original source of all incarnations.
(59) He is the giver of salvation to the enemies whom He kills.
(60) He is the attractor of liberated souls.
All these transcendental qualities are manifest wonderfully in the personal feature of Lord Krishna.
Besides these sixty transcendental qualities, Krishna has four more, which are not manifest even in the Narayana form of Godhead, what to speak of the demigods or living entities:
(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).
(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.
(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.
(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty which cannot be rivaled anywhere in the creation.
Adding to the list these four exceptional qualities of Krishna, it is to be understood that the aggregate number of qualities of Krishna is sixty-four.
(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).
(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.
(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.
(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty which cannot be rivaled anywhere in the creation.
Srila Rupa Gosvami has attempted to give evidences from various scriptures about all sixty-four qualities present in the person of the Supreme Lord Shri Krishna.
Lord Nrsimhadeva the half man half lion incarnation of Lord Krishna. He appeared to save the great saint Prahlada Maharaja from his demonic father Hiranyakasipu.
Lord NARASIMHA DEV at ISKCON Juhu Beach Temple Mumbai India.
Lord Nrsimhadeva the half man half lion incarnation of Lord Krishna.
He appeared to save the great saint Prahlada Maharaja from his demonic father Hiranyakasipu.
By performing the rigorous austerity of standing on the tips of his toes for one hundred and twenty five years Hiranyakasipu became so powerful that the demigods prayed to Lord Brahma to keep him from destroying the universe.
Due to his austerity Lord Brahma offered Hiranyakasipu his hearts desire. Hiranyakasipu requested that he should never die.
Lord Brahma explained to him that even he must die that his life was only four million three hundred thousand times 1000 times 30 times 12 times 100 times 2 years.
So Hiranyakasipu demanded that he should never be killed in the day or in the night and Lord Brahma agreed to this. Hiranyakasipu then requested that he should not die on land or in the air or in the water, to which Lord Brahma agreed.
Hiranyakasipu, having received this promise, became very bold and asked that he should not be killed by any man or beast. Lord Brahma again agreed.
Hiranyakasipu still not satisfied with the benedictions he had received from Lord Brahma, then asked for the benediction that he could not be killed by any weapon.
To which Lord Brahma also agreed to give Hiranyakasipu this benediction and then left.
After receiving these benedictions Hiranyakasipu became more demonic and began conquering the material universe. With each new victory and increase in his power the Demigods became more and more worried.
In time Hiranyakasipu had a son calle Prahlada. Prahlada was a great devotee of Lord Krishna even from birth. As a small boy of five he would preach about Krishna to his school friends any time the teachers left the room.
Prahlada’s preaching infuriated his father, Hiranyakasipu. When his father demanded to know what this foolishness was, what was this Krishna. Prahlada explained that because his father was too attached to his own sense gratification, he was determined to deny Krishna’s existence.
Due to this he could not understand even if he took lessons. To understand Krishna one must first give everything to Krishna then Krishna would reveal himself.
Hiranyakasipu became so angry that he ordered Prahlada to be thrown in to a circle of cannibals. When he was thrown to the cannibals Prahlada began to chant Hare Krishna and the cannibals had no power to harm him.
His father then ordered that Prahlada be thrown into boiling hot oil but because he was chanting Hare Krishna Prahlada was unharmed. Seeing that Prahlada was not harmed by the boiling oil his father ordered that he be taken to a small island to endure a huge hurricane.
But Prahlada kept chanting Hare Krishna and he was protected by Krishna’s holy name. Hiranyakasipu, seeing that none of these things could kill Prahlada, threw him off a the top of a cliff, but due to his chanting Hare Krishna Krishna caught him and Prahlada was not harmed.
Infuriated Hiranyakasipu demanded that Prahlada be trampled under the feet of an elephant. When this also did not work Hiranyakasipu called for his guards to throw Prahlada into a snake pit.
The pit was filled with venomous snakes but because Prahlada was study in his faith and continued to chant Hare Krishna the snakes could not harm him.
Since through all this Prahlada was not harmed, Hiranyakasipu thought he must have some mystic power. He pretended to be sorry for trying to harm Prahlada and invited him to lunch.
In desperation, Hiranyakasipu poisoned Prahlada’s food, with enough poison to kill hundreds of full-grown men. Rather then eating his food Prahlada first offered it Krishna and it became prasadam and as pure as God and free from all poisonous effects.
When the poisoned food had no effect on Prahlada Hiranyakasipu became so enraged he lifted Prahlada above his head and smashed him to the floor. When Prahlada still was not harmed Hiranyakasipu demanded to know where he got his super human powers from.
Prahlada replied that he got his strength from the same place as Hiranyakasipu did–from God. Hiranyakasipu demanded to know what was this God where was this God.
Prahlada explained that God is everywhere that everything comes from God. Hiranyakasipu, despite all that had happened, could not believe in God and began pointing to things demanding if they were God. Hiranyakasipu demanded if God was in a big pillar nearby in the palace.
When Prahlada said, “Yes, my Lord is in that pillar,” Hiranyakasipu stated that he would kill Prahlada’s God by using his mace to smash the pillar. As he smashed the pillar Lord Nrsimhadeva, the half man, half lion incarnation of Krishna appeared from the broken pillar and pounced on the shocked demon.
Nrsimhadeva stretched Hiranyakasipu across his lap and with his long nails, he ripped apart the demon. Hiranyakasipu died instantly on Nrsimhadeva’s blood drenched lap.
He was killed neither on the land, sea nor in the air but on the lap of the Supreme Lord. He was killed neither during the day or the night but in the twilight.
He was killed by neither beast nor man, but by the lord’s lotus hands and was kill with no weapons but with the nails of Lord Nrsimhadeva.
Thus Hiranyakasipu’s benediction from Lord Brahma remained intact and he was killed by the personification of fear, Krishna Himself in His half-man, half-lion form, Lord Nrsimhadeva.
Lord Nrsimhadeva the half man half lion incarnation of Lord Krishna.
He appeared to save the great saint Prahlada Maharaja from his demonic father Hiranyakasipu.
By performing the rigorous austerity of standing on the tips of his toes for one hundred and twenty five years Hiranyakasipu became so powerful that the demigods prayed to Lord Brahma to keep him from destroying the universe.
Due to his austerity Lord Brahma offered Hiranyakasipu his hearts desire. Hiranyakasipu requested that he should never die.
Lord Brahma explained to him that even he must die that his life was only four million three hundred thousand times 1000 times 30 times 12 times 100 times 2 years.
So Hiranyakasipu demanded that he should never be killed in the day or in the night and Lord Brahma agreed to this. Hiranyakasipu then requested that he should not die on land or in the air or in the water, to which Lord Brahma agreed.
Hiranyakasipu, having received this promise, became very bold and asked that he should not be killed by any man or beast. Lord Brahma again agreed.
Hiranyakasipu still not satisfied with the benedictions he had received from Lord Brahma, then asked for the benediction that he could not be killed by any weapon.
To which Lord Brahma also agreed to give Hiranyakasipu this benediction and then left.
After receiving these benedictions Hiranyakasipu became more demonic and began conquering the material universe. With each new victory and increase in his power the Demigods became more and more worried.
In time Hiranyakasipu had a son calle Prahlada. Prahlada was a great devotee of Lord Krishna even from birth. As a small boy of five he would preach about Krishna to his school friends any time the teachers left the room.
Prahlada’s preaching infuriated his father, Hiranyakasipu. When his father demanded to know what this foolishness was, what was this Krishna. Prahlada explained that because his father was too attached to his own sense gratification, he was determined to deny Krishna’s existence.
Due to this he could not understand even if he took lessons. To understand Krishna one must first give everything to Krishna then Krishna would reveal himself.
Hiranyakasipu became so angry that he ordered Prahlada to be thrown in to a circle of cannibals. When he was thrown to the cannibals Prahlada began to chant Hare Krishna and the cannibals had no power to harm him.
His father then ordered that Prahlada be thrown into boiling hot oil but because he was chanting Hare Krishna Prahlada was unharmed. Seeing that Prahlada was not harmed by the boiling oil his father ordered that he be taken to a small island to endure a huge hurricane.
But Prahlada kept chanting Hare Krishna and he was protected by Krishna’s holy name. Hiranyakasipu, seeing that none of these things could kill Prahlada, threw him off a the top of a cliff, but due to his chanting Hare Krishna Krishna caught him and Prahlada was not harmed.
Infuriated Hiranyakasipu demanded that Prahlada be trampled under the feet of an elephant. When this also did not work Hiranyakasipu called for his guards to throw Prahlada into a snake pit.
The pit was filled with venomous snakes but because Prahlada was study in his faith and continued to chant Hare Krishna the snakes could not harm him.
Since through all this Prahlada was not harmed, Hiranyakasipu thought he must have some mystic power. He pretended to be sorry for trying to harm Prahlada and invited him to lunch.
In desperation, Hiranyakasipu poisoned Prahlada’s food, with enough poison to kill hundreds of full-grown men. Rather then eating his food Prahlada first offered it Krishna and it became prasadam and as pure as God and free from all poisonous effects.
When the poisoned food had no effect on Prahlada Hiranyakasipu became so enraged he lifted Prahlada above his head and smashed him to the floor. When Prahlada still was not harmed Hiranyakasipu demanded to know where he got his super human powers from.
Prahlada replied that he got his strength from the same place as Hiranyakasipu did–from God. Hiranyakasipu demanded to know what was this God where was this God.
Prahlada explained that God is everywhere that everything comes from God. Hiranyakasipu, despite all that had happened, could not believe in God and began pointing to things demanding if they were God. Hiranyakasipu demanded if God was in a big pillar nearby in the palace.
When Prahlada said, “Yes, my Lord is in that pillar,” Hiranyakasipu stated that he would kill Prahlada’s God by using his mace to smash the pillar. As he smashed the pillar Lord Nrsimhadeva, the half man, half lion incarnation of Krishna appeared from the broken pillar and pounced on the shocked demon.
Nrsimhadeva stretched Hiranyakasipu across his lap and with his long nails, he ripped apart the demon. Hiranyakasipu died instantly on Nrsimhadeva’s blood drenched lap.
He was killed neither on the land, sea nor in the air but on the lap of the Supreme Lord. He was killed neither during the day or the night but in the twilight.
He was killed by neither beast nor man, but by the lord’s lotus hands and was kill with no weapons but with the nails of Lord Nrsimhadeva.
Thus Hiranyakasipu’s benediction from Lord Brahma remained intact and he was killed by the personification of fear, Krishna Himself in His half-man, half-lion form, Lord Nrsimhadeva.
Tuesday, March 12, 2019
Srila Prabhupada made MANY comments about the home of the jiva souls being Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and that once there, they can NEVER fall from from Vaikuntha. BUT why do some devotees only accept those comments when in his other writings, he says they CAN fall from Vaikuntha even saying only less than 10% DO choose to leave.
Srila Prabhupada made MANY comments about the jiva souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and if they can or cannot fall from from there.
Therefore why only accept one comment by Prabhupada below quoted by those who think that once one is in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana they can never leave?
Many should understand that Maya or the material energy does NOT exist in Vaikuntha, therefore fall down is NOT caused by Maya in anyway.
However, what DOES exist eternally in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana is "free will and the ability to choose", such qualities make us all individual unique different persons each with their own abilities and talents in their full potental as Krishna's eternal servant.
These attributes and spiritual qualities of each indivual jiva soul are NEVER lost.
And if they are, then the jivatmas are no better than dead stone.
1 - Srila Prabhupada - "The conclusion is that no one falls from the spiritual world, or Vaikuntha, for it is the eternal abode." (SB 3.16.26 purport)
But then Srila Prabhupada also made these following conclusions that we CAN fall (By choice) from Vaikuntha -
1 - Srila Prabhupada - ” So, even in the Vaikuntha, if I desire that ‘Why shall I serve Krishna? Why not become Krishna?’ I immediately fall down. That is natural. A servant is serving the master, but sometimes he may think that, “If I could become the master.” They are thinking like that; they are trying to become God. That is delusion. You cannot become God. That is not possible. But he’s wrongly thinking”. July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.
2 - Srila Prabhupada – ''Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall. Your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime. So there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence'' Letter to Jagadisa Prabhu, 4/25/1970.
3 - Srila Prabhupada – Regarding your several questions like where are the spirit souls coming from? These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha. There is no new soul. 'New' and 'Old' are due to this material body, the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970.
4 - Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krishna Loka. When one forgets Krishna he is conditioned, when one remembers Krishna he is liberated". (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
5 - Srila Prabhupada - "We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately Maya covers us. "Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport". But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going". (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami May 1972 Australia)
6 - Srila Prabhupada - "Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport". But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going". (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami May 1972 Australia)
7 - Srila Prabhupada – ''Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall. Your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime. So there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence'' Letter to Jagadisa Prabhu, 4/25/1970.
8 - Srila Prabhupada - “We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago.” - (Lecture on Bhagavad-gita on August 6, 1973)
9 - Srila Prabhupada - ‘’These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha”. Letter to Jagadisa das.
10 - Srila Prabhupada - "The jiva is originally with Krsna. But even with Krsna “there is a dormant attitude for forgetting Krsna and creating an atmosphere for enjoying independently.” (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami June 1972 Australia)
11 - Srila Prabhupada - “As living spiritual souls we are all originally Krsna conscious entities, but due to our association with matter from time immemorial, our consciousness has now become polluted by the material atmosphere.” Original Hare Krsna Happening record album New York 1966.
The fact is 90% of the jivatmas actually NEVER "choose" to leave Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and enter the decaying material creation of repeated birth and death only less than 10% do choose to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana.
However Prabhupada also says this -
2 - Srila Prabhupada - "The conclusion is that the origin of all life is the bodily effulgence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead." (SB 4.30.5 purport)
Then Srila Prabhupada says it was NOT from the effulgent impersonal aspect of Brahman the jiva originate.
Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness''. Letter to: Revatinandana — Los Angeles 13 June, 1970
He is saying the jiva did NOT generate from a clear sheet of consciousness that is expanding and growing with new souls. This nonsense idea is impersonal because what condition was the individual soul (jivatma) in before it was generated, appeared or created?
Actually, there is NO creation of the living entity because the soul is beginningless!!
When the word ”impersonal origin” is used it means the non existent or inactive state of the jiva as an individual and then from where the soul is generated which really means where the soul originates from.
Some say, ”they generate from a ”clear sheet of consciousness that is growing and producing new souls” however it is this ”impersonal” concept that Prabhupada rejects –
Srila Prabhupada - "There is no “ NEW” souls. “New'’ and “old'’ are due to this material body, the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970.
Jivas are NOT generated from a clear sheet of consciousness and there are NO new souls, all souls have always been and NEVER created nor can they be annihilated”
Srila Prabhupada rejects the concept that ”souls are generated from a clear sheet of consciousness”
Srila Prabhupada - ''Those who are in the brahman effulgence (Impersonal Brahmajyoti) are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition". Letter to: Revatinandana — Los Angeles 13 June, 1970
Srila Prabhupada - ''When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness''. Letter to: Revatinandana — Los Angeles 13 June, 1970
Therefore why only accept one comment by Prabhupada below quoted by those who think that once one is in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana they can never leave?
Many should understand that Maya or the material energy does NOT exist in Vaikuntha, therefore fall down is NOT caused by Maya in anyway.
However, what DOES exist eternally in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana is "free will and the ability to choose", such qualities make us all individual unique different persons each with their own abilities and talents in their full potental as Krishna's eternal servant.
These attributes and spiritual qualities of each indivual jiva soul are NEVER lost.
And if they are, then the jivatmas are no better than dead stone.
1 - Srila Prabhupada - "The conclusion is that no one falls from the spiritual world, or Vaikuntha, for it is the eternal abode." (SB 3.16.26 purport)
But then Srila Prabhupada also made these following conclusions that we CAN fall (By choice) from Vaikuntha -
1 - Srila Prabhupada - ” So, even in the Vaikuntha, if I desire that ‘Why shall I serve Krishna? Why not become Krishna?’ I immediately fall down. That is natural. A servant is serving the master, but sometimes he may think that, “If I could become the master.” They are thinking like that; they are trying to become God. That is delusion. You cannot become God. That is not possible. But he’s wrongly thinking”. July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.
2 - Srila Prabhupada – ''Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall. Your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime. So there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence'' Letter to Jagadisa Prabhu, 4/25/1970.
3 - Srila Prabhupada – Regarding your several questions like where are the spirit souls coming from? These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha. There is no new soul. 'New' and 'Old' are due to this material body, the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970.
4 - Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krishna Loka. When one forgets Krishna he is conditioned, when one remembers Krishna he is liberated". (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
5 - Srila Prabhupada - "We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately Maya covers us. "Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport". But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going". (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami May 1972 Australia)
6 - Srila Prabhupada - "Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport". But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going". (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami May 1972 Australia)
7 - Srila Prabhupada – ''Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall. Your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime. So there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence'' Letter to Jagadisa Prabhu, 4/25/1970.
8 - Srila Prabhupada - “We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago.” - (Lecture on Bhagavad-gita on August 6, 1973)
9 - Srila Prabhupada - ‘’These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha”. Letter to Jagadisa das.
10 - Srila Prabhupada - "The jiva is originally with Krsna. But even with Krsna “there is a dormant attitude for forgetting Krsna and creating an atmosphere for enjoying independently.” (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami June 1972 Australia)
11 - Srila Prabhupada - “As living spiritual souls we are all originally Krsna conscious entities, but due to our association with matter from time immemorial, our consciousness has now become polluted by the material atmosphere.” Original Hare Krsna Happening record album New York 1966.
The fact is 90% of the jivatmas actually NEVER "choose" to leave Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and enter the decaying material creation of repeated birth and death only less than 10% do choose to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana.
However Prabhupada also says this -
2 - Srila Prabhupada - "The conclusion is that the origin of all life is the bodily effulgence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead." (SB 4.30.5 purport)
Then Srila Prabhupada says it was NOT from the effulgent impersonal aspect of Brahman the jiva originate.
Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness''. Letter to: Revatinandana — Los Angeles 13 June, 1970
He is saying the jiva did NOT generate from a clear sheet of consciousness that is expanding and growing with new souls. This nonsense idea is impersonal because what condition was the individual soul (jivatma) in before it was generated, appeared or created?
Actually, there is NO creation of the living entity because the soul is beginningless!!
When the word ”impersonal origin” is used it means the non existent or inactive state of the jiva as an individual and then from where the soul is generated which really means where the soul originates from.
Some say, ”they generate from a ”clear sheet of consciousness that is growing and producing new souls” however it is this ”impersonal” concept that Prabhupada rejects –
Srila Prabhupada - "There is no “ NEW” souls. “New'’ and “old'’ are due to this material body, the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970.
Jivas are NOT generated from a clear sheet of consciousness and there are NO new souls, all souls have always been and NEVER created nor can they be annihilated”
Srila Prabhupada rejects the concept that ”souls are generated from a clear sheet of consciousness”
Srila Prabhupada - ''Those who are in the brahman effulgence (Impersonal Brahmajyoti) are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition". Letter to: Revatinandana — Los Angeles 13 June, 1970
Srila Prabhupada - ''When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness''. Letter to: Revatinandana — Los Angeles 13 June, 1970
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