Sunday, May 19, 2019

"The Subterranean Heavenly Planets" Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 24

"The Subterranean Heavenly Planets"

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 24 Text 1 to Text 31

By His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

This chapter describes the planet Rāhu, which is 10,000 yojanas (80,000 miles) below the sun, and it also describes Atala and the other lower planetary systems.

Rāhu is situated below the sun and moon. It is between these two planets and the earth.

When Rāhu conceals the sun and moon, eclipses occur, either total or partial, depending on whether Rāhu moves in a straight or curving way.

Below Rāhu by another 1,000,000 yojanas are the planets of the Siddhas, Cāraṇas and Vidyādharas, and below these are planets such as Yakṣaloka and Rakṣaloka.

Below these planets is the earth, and 70,000 yojanas below the earth are the lower planetary systems — Atala, Vitala, Sutala, Talātala, Mahātala, Rasātala and Pātāla.

Demons and Rakṣasas live in these lower planetary systems with their wives and children, always engaged in sense gratification and not fearing their next births.

The sunshine does not reach these planets, but they are illuminated by jewels fixed upon the hoods of snakes. Because of these shining gems there is practically no darkness.

Those living in these planets do not become old or diseased, and they are not afraid of death from any cause but the time factor, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

In the planet Atala, the yawning of a demon has produced three kinds of women, called svairiṇī (independent), kāmiṇī (lusty) and puḿścalī (very easily subdued by men). Below Atala is the planet Vitala, wherein Lord Śiva and his wife Gaurī reside.

Because of their presence, a kind of gold is produced called hāṭaka. Below Vitala is the planet Sutala, the abode of Bali Mahārāja, the most fortunate king.

Bali Mahārāja was favored by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vāmanadeva, because of his intense devotional service.

The Lord went to the sacrificial arena of Bali Mahārāja and begged him for three paces of land, and on this plea the Lord took from him all his possessions.

When Bali Mahārāja agreed to all this, the Lord was very pleased, and therefore the Lord serves as his doorkeeper. The description of Bali Mahārāja appears in the Eighth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.

When the Supreme Personality of Godhead offers a devotee material happiness, this is not His real favor. The demigods, who are very puffed up by their material opulence, pray to the Lord only for material happiness, not knowing anything better.

Devotees like Prahlāda Mahārāja, however, do not want material happiness. Not to speak of material happiness, they do not want even liberation from material bondage, although one can achieve this liberation simply by chanting the holy name of the Lord, even with improper pronunciation.

Below Sutala is the planet Talātala, the abode of the demon Maya. This demon is always materially happy because he is favored by Lord Śiva, but he cannot achieve spiritual happiness at any time.

Below Talātala is the planet Mahātala, where there are many snakes with hundreds and thousands of hoods. Below Mahātala is Rasātala, and below that is Pātāla, where the serpent Vasukī lives with his associates.


SB 5.24 Text 1

Translation:

Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: My dear King, some historians, the speakers of the Purāṇas, say that 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles] below the sun is the planet known as Rāhu, which moves like one of the stars.

The presiding deity of that planet, who is the son of Siṁhikā, is the most abominable of all asuras, but although he is completely unfit to assume the position of a demigod or planetary deity, he has achieved that position by the grace of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Later I shall speak further about him.

SB 5.24.2

Translation:

The sun globe, which is a source of heat, extends for 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles]. The moon extends for 20,000 yojanas [160,000 miles], and Rāhu extends for 30,000 yojanas [240,000 miles].

Formerly, when nectar was being distributed, Rāhu tried to create dissension between the sun and moon by interposing himself between them. Rāhu is inimical toward both the sun and the moon, and therefore he always tries to cover the sunshine and moonshine on the dark-moon day and full-moon night.

Purport:

As stated herein, the sun extends for 10,000 yojanas, and the moon extends for twice that, or 20,000 yojanas. The word dvādaśa should be understood to mean twice as much as ten, or twenty.

In the opinion of Vijayadhvaja, the extent of Rāhu should be twice that of the moon, or 40,000 yojanas.

However to reconcile this apparent contradiction to the text of the Bhāgavatam, Vijayadhvaja cites the following quotation concerning Rāhu; rāhu-soma-ravīṇāṁ tu maṇḍalā dvi-guṇoktitām.

This means that Rāhu is twice as large as the moon, which is twice as large as the sun. This is the conclusion of the commentator Vijayadhvaja.

SB 5.24.3

Translation:

After hearing from the sun and moon demigods about Rāhu’s attack, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, engages His disc, known as the Sudarśana cakra, to protect them. The Sudarśana cakra is the Lord’s most beloved devotee and is favored by the Lord.

The intense heat of its effulgence, meant for killing non-Vaiṣṇavas, is unbearable to Rāhu, and he therefore flees in fear of it. During the time Rāhu disturbs the sun or moon, there occurs what people commonly know as an eclipse.

Purport:

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, is always the protector of His devotees, who are also known as demigods. The controlling demigods are most obedient to Lord Viṣṇu, although they also want material sense enjoyment, and that is why they are called demigods, or almost godly.

Although Rāhu attempts to attack both the sun and the moon, they are protected by Lord Viṣṇu.

Being very afraid of Lord Viṣṇu’s cakra, Rāhu cannot stay in front of the sun or moon for more than a muhūrta (forty-eight minutes). The phenomenon that occurs when Rāhu blocks the light of the sun or moon is called an eclipse.

The attempt of the scientists of this earth to go to the moon is as demoniac as Rāhu’s attack. Of course. their attempts will be failures because no one can enter the moon or sun so easily. Like the attack of Rāhu, such attempts will certainly be failures.

SB 5.24.4

Translation:

Below Rāhu by 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles] are the planets known as Siddhaloka, Cāraṇaloka and Vidyādhara-loka.

Purport:

It is said that the residents of Siddhaloka, being naturally endowed with the powers of yogīs, can go from one planet to another by their natural mystic powers without using airplanes or similar machines.

SB 5.24.5

Translation:

Beneath Vidyādhara-loka, Cāraṇaloka and Siddhaloka, in the sky called antarikṣa, are the places of enjoyment for the Yakṣas, Rākṣasas, Piśācas, ghosts and so on. Antarikṣa extends as far as the wind blows and the clouds float in the sky. Above this there is no more air.

SB 5.24.6

Translation:

Below the abodes of the Yakṣas and Rākṣasas by a distance of 100 yojanas [800 miles] is the planet earth. Its upper limits extend as high as swans, hawks, eagles and similar large birds can fly.

SB 5.24.7

Translation:

My dear King, beneath this earth are seven other planets, known as Atala, Vitala, Sutala, Talātala, Mahātala, Rasātala and Pātāla. I have already explained the situation of the planetary systems of earth. The width and length of the seven lower planetary systems are calculated to be exactly the same as those of earth.

SB 5.24.8

Translation:

In these seven planetary systems, which are also known as the subterranean heavens [bila-svarga], there are very beautiful houses, gardens and places of sense enjoyment, which are even more opulent than those in the higher planets because the demons have a very high standard of sensual pleasure, wealth and influence.

Most of the residents of these planets, who are known as Daityas, Dānavas and Nāgas, live as householders. Their wives, children, friends and society are all fully engaged in illusory material happiness.

The sense enjoyment of the demigods is sometimes disturbed, but the residents of these planets enjoy life without disturbances. Thus they are understood to be very attached to illusory happiness.

Purport:

According to the statements of Prahlāda Mahārāja, material enjoyment is māyā-sukha, illusory enjoyment. A Vaiṣṇava is full of anxieties for the deliverance of all living entities from such false enjoyment.

Prahlāda Mahārāja says, māyā-sukhāya bharam udvahato vimūḍhān: these fools (vimūḍhas) are engaged in material happiness, which is surely temporary.

Whether in the heavenly planets, the lower planets or the earthly planets, people are engrossed in temporary, material happiness, forgetting that in due course of time they have to change their bodies according to the material laws and suffer the repetition of birth, death, old age and disease.

Not caring what will happen in the next birth, gross materialists are simply busy enjoying during the present short span of life. A Vaiṣṇava is always anxious to give all such bewildered materialists the real happiness of spiritual bliss.

SB 5.24.9

Translation:

My dear King, in the imitation heavens known as bila-svarga there is a great demon named Maya Dānava, who is an expert artist and architect. He has constructed many brilliantly decorated cities.

There are many wonderful houses, walls, gates, assembly houses, temples, yards and temple compounds, as well as many hotels serving as residential quarters for foreigners.

The houses for the leaders of these planets are constructed with the most valuable jewels, and they are always crowded with living entities known as Nāgas and Asuras, as well as many pigeons, parrots and similar birds. All in all, these imitation heavenly cities are most beautifully situated and attractively decorated.

SB 5.24.10

Translation:

The parks and gardens in the artificial heavens surpass in beauty those of the upper heavenly planets. The trees in those gardens, embraced by creepers, bend with a heavy burden of twigs with fruits and flowers, and therefore they appear extraordinarily beautiful.

That beauty could attract anyone and make his mind fully blossom in the pleasure of sense gratification. There are many lakes and reservoirs with clear, transparent water, agitated by jumping fish and decorated with many flowers such as lilies, kuvalayas, kahlāras and blue and red lotuses.

Pairs of cakravākas and many other water birds nest in the lakes and always enjoy in a happy mood, making sweet, pleasing vibrations that are very satisfying and conducive to enjoyment of the senses.

SB 5.24.11

Translation:

Since there is no sunshine in those subterranean planets, time is not divided into days and nights, and consequently fear produced by time does not exist.

SB 5.24.12

Translation:

Many great serpents reside there with gems on their hoods, and the effulgence of these gems dissipates the darkness in all directions.

SB 5.24.13

Translation:

Since the residents of these planets drink and bathe in juices and elixirs made from wonderful herbs, they are freed from all anxieties and physical diseases.

They have no experience of grey hair, wrinkles or invalidity, their bodily lusters do not fade, their perspiration does not cause a bad smell, and they are not troubled by fatigue or by lack of energy or enthusiasm due to old age.

SB 5.24.14

Translation:

They live very auspiciously and do not fear death from anything but death’s established time, which is the effulgence of the Sudarśana cakra of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Purport:

This is the defect of material existence. Everything in the subterranean heavens is very nicely arranged. There are well situated residential quarters, there is a pleasing atmosphere, and there are no bodily inconveniences or mental anxieties, but nevertheless those who live there have to take another birth according to karma.

Persons whose minds are dull cannot understand this defect of a materialistic civilization aiming at material comforts. One may make his living conditions very pleasing for the senses, but despite all favorable conditions, one must in due course of time meet death.

The members of a demoniac civilization endeavor to make their living conditions very comfortable, but they cannot check death. The influence of the Sudarśana cakra will not allow their so-called material happiness to endure.

SB 5.24.15

Translation:

When the Sudarśana disc enters those provinces, the pregnant wives of the demons all have miscarriages due to fear of its effulgence.

SB 5.24.16

TRANSLATION

My dear King, now I shall describe to you the lower planetary systems, one by one, beginning from Atala. In Atala there is a demon, the son of Maya Dānava named Bala, who created ninety-six kinds of mystic power.

Some so-called yogīs and svāmīs take advantage of this mystic power to cheat people even today. Simply by yawning, the demon Bala created three kinds of women, known as svairiṇī, kāmiṇī and puḿścalī.

The svairiṇīs like to marry men from their own group, the kāmiṇīs marry men from any group, and the puḿścalīs change husbands one after another. If a man enters the planet of Atala, these women immediately capture him and induce him to drink an intoxicating beverage made with a drug known as hāṭaka [cannabis indica].

This intoxicant endows the man with great sexual prowess, of which the women take advantage for enjoyment. A woman will enchant him with attractive glances, intimate words, smiles of love and then embraces. In this way she induces him to enjoy sex with her to her full satisfaction.

Because of his increased sexual power, the man thinks himself stronger than ten thousand elephants and considers himself most perfect. Indeed, illusioned and intoxicated by false pride, he thinks himself God, ignoring impending death.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.17

TRANSLATION

The next planet below Atala is Vitala, wherein Lord Śiva, who is known as the master of gold mines, lives with his personal associates, the ghosts and similar living entities. Lord Śiva, as the progenitor, engages in sex with Bhavānī, the progenitress, to produce living entities, and from the mixture of their vital fluid the river named Hāṭakī is generated.

When fire, being made to blaze by the wind, drinks of this river and then sizzles and spits it out, it produces gold called Hāṭaka.

The demons who live on that planet with their wives decorate themselves with various ornaments made from that gold, and thus they live there very happily.

PURPORT

It appears that when Bhava and Bhavānī, Lord Śiva and his wife, unite sexually, the emulsification of their secretions creates a chemical which when heated by fire can produce gold.

It is said that the alchemists of the medieval age tried to prepare gold from base metal, and Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī also states that when bell metal is treated with mercury, it can produce gold.

Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī mentions this in regard to the initiation of low-class men to turn them into brāhmaṇas. Sanātana Gosvāmī said:

yathā kāñcanatāḿ yātikāḿsyaḿ rasa-vidhānataḥtathā dīkṣā-vidhānenadvijatvaḿ jāyate nṛṇām

"As one can transform kaḿsa, or bell metal, into gold by treating it with mercury, one can also turn a lowborn man into a brāhmaṇa by initiating him properly into Vaiṣṇava activities."

The International Society for Krishna Consciousness is trying to turn mlecchas and yavanas into real brāhmaṇas by properly initiating them and stopping them from engaging in meat-eating, intoxication, illicit sex and gambling.

One who stops these four principles of sinful activity and chants the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra can certainly become a pure brāhmaṇa through the process of bona fide initiation, as suggested by Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī.

Apart from this, if one takes a hint from this verse and learns how to mix mercury with bell metal by properly heating and melting them, one can get gold very cheaply. The alchemists of the medieval age tried to manufacture gold, but they were unsuccessful, perhaps because they did not follow the right instructions.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.18

TRANSLATION

Below the planet Vitala is another planet, known as Sutala, where the great son of Mahārāja Virocana, Bali Mahārāja, who is celebrated as the most pious king, resides even now.

For the welfare of Indra, the King of heaven, Lord Viṣṇu appeared in the form of a dwarf brahmacārī as the son of Aditi and tricked Bali Mahārāja by begging for only three paces of land but taking all the three worlds. Being very pleased with Bali Mahārāja for giving all his possessions, the Lord returned his kingdom and made him richer than the opulent King Indra.

Even now, Bali Mahārāja engages in devotional service by worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the planet of Sutala.

PURPORT

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is described as Uttamaśloka, "He who is worshiped by the best of selected Sanskrit verses," and His devotees such as Bali Mahārāja are also worshiped by puṇya-śloka, verses that increase one's piety.

Bali Mahārāja offered everything to the Lord — his wealth, his kingdom and even his own body (sarvātma-nivedane baliḥ).

The Lord appeared before Bali Mahārāja as a brāhmaṇa beggar, and Bali Mahārāja gave Him everything he had. However, Bali Mahārāja did not become poor; by donating all his possessions to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he became a successful devotee and got everything back again with the blessings of the Lord.

Similarly, those who give contributions to expand the activities of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement and to accomplish its objectives will never be losers; they will get their wealth back with the blessings of Lord Kṛṣṇa.

On the other side, those who collect contributions on behalf of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness should be very careful not to use even a farthing of the collection for any purpose other than the transcendental loving service of the Lord.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.19

TRANSLATION

My dear King, Bali Mahārāja donated all his possessions to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vāmanadeva, but one should certainly not conclude that he achieved his great worldly opulence in bila-svarga as a result of his charitable disposition.

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is the source of life for all living entities, lives within everyone as the friendly Supersoul, and under His direction a living entity enjoys or suffers in the material world. Greatly appreciating the transcendental qualities of the Lord, Bali Mahārāja offered everything at His lotus feet.

His purpose, however, was not to gain anything material, but to become a pure devotee. For a pure devotee, the door of liberation is automatically opened. One should not think that Bali Mahārāja was given so much material opulence merely because of his charity.

When one becomes a pure devotee in love, he may also be blessed with a good material position by the will of the Supreme Lord. However, one should not mistakenly think that the material opulence of a devotee is the result of his devotional service.

The real result of devotional service is the awakening of pure love for the Supreme Personality of Godhead, which continues under all circumstances.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.20

TRANSLATION

If one who is embarrassed by hunger or who falls down or stumbles chants the holy name of the Lord even once, willingly or unwillingly, he is immediately freed from the reactions of his past deeds.

Karmīs entangled in material activities face many difficulties in the practice of mystic yoga and other endeavors to achieve that same freedom.

PURPORT

It is not a fact that one has to offer his material possessions to the Supreme Personality of Godhead and be liberated before he can engage in devotional service. A devotee automatically attains liberation without separate endeavors.

Bali Mahārāja did not get back all his material possessions merely because of his charity to the Lord.

One who becomes a devotee, free from material desires and motives, regards all opportunities, both material and spiritual, as benedictions from the Lord, and in this way his service to the Lord is never hampered. Bhukti, material enjoyment, and mukti, liberation, are only by-products of devotional service.

A devotee need not work separately to attain mukti. Śrīla Bilvamańgala Ṭhākura said, muktiḥ svayaḿ mukulitāñjaliḥ sevate 'smān: a pure devotee of the Lord does not have to endeavor separately for mukti, because mukti is always ready to serve him.

In this regard, Caitanya-caritāmṛta (Antya 3.177-188) describes Haridāsa Ṭhākura's confirmation of the effect of chanting the holy name of the Lord.

keha bale — 'nāma haite haya pāpa-kṣaya'keha bale — 'nāma haite jīvera mokṣa haya'

Some say that by chanting the holy name of the Lord one is freed from all the reactions of sinful life, and others say that by chanting the holy name of the Lord one attains liberation from material bondage.

haridāsa kahena, — "nāmera ei dui phala nayanāmera phale kṛṣṇa-pade prema upajaya

Haridāsa Ṭhākura, however, said that the desired result of chanting the holy name of the Lord is not that one is liberated from material bondage or freed from the reactions of sinful life.

The actual result of chanting the holy name of the Lord is that one awakens his dormant Kṛṣṇa consciousness, his loving service to the Lord.

ānuṣańgika phala nāmera — 'mukti', 'pāpa-nāśa'tāhāra dṛṣṭānta yaiche sūryera prakāśa

Haridāsa Ṭhākura said that liberation and freedom from the reactions of sinful activities are only by-products of chanting the holy name of the Lord.

If one chants the holy name of the Lord purely, he attains the platform of loving service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In this regard Haridāsa Ṭhākura gave an example comparing the power of the holy name to sunshine.

ei ślokera artha kara paṇḍitera gaṇa"sabe kahe, — 'tumi kaha artha-vivaraṇa'

He placed a verse before all the learned scholars present, but the learned scholars asked him to state the purport of the verse.

haridāsa kahena, — "yaiche sūryera udayaudaya nā haite ārambhe tamera haya kṣaya

Haridāsa Ṭhākura said that as the sun begins to rise, it dissipates the darkness of night, even before the sunshine is visible.

caura-preta-rākṣasādira bhaya haya nāśaudaya haile dharma-karma-ādi parakāśa

Before the sunrise even takes place, the light of dawn destroys the fear of the dangers of the night, such as disturbances by thieves, ghosts and Rākṣasas, and when the sunshine actually appears, one engages in his duties.

aiche nāmodayārambhe pāpa-ādira kṣayaudaya kaile kṛṣṇa-pade haya premodaya

Similarly, even before one's chanting of the holy name is pure, one is freed from all sinful reactions, and when he chants purely he becomes a lover of Kṛṣṇa.

'mukti' tuccha-phala haya nāmābhāsa haiteye mukti bhakta nā laya, se kṛṣṇa cāhe dite"

A devotee never accepts mukti, even if Kṛṣṇa offers it. Mukti, freedom from all sinful reactions, is obtained even by nāmābhāsa, or a glimpse of the light of the holy name before its full light is perfectly visible.

The nāmābhāsa stage is between that of nāma-aparādha, or chanting of the holy name with offenses, and pure chanting. There are three stages in chanting the holy name of the Lord. In the first stage, one commits ten kinds of offenses while chanting.

In the next stage, nāmābhāsa, the offenses have almost stopped, and one is coming to the platform of pure chanting. In the third stage, when one chants the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra without offenses, his dormant love for Kṛṣṇa immediately awakens. This is the perfection.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.21

TRANSLATION

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is situated in everyone's heart as the Supersoul, sells Himself to His devotees such as Nārada Muni. In other words, the Lord gives pure love to such devotees and gives Himself to those who love Him purely.

Great, self-realized mystic yogīs such as the four Kumāras also derive great transcendental bliss from realizing the Supersoul within themselves.

PURPORT

The Lord became Bali Mahārāja's doorkeeper not because of his giving everything to the Lord, but because of his exalted position as a lover of the Lord.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.22

TRANSLATION

The Supreme Personality of Godhead did not award His mercy to Bali Mahārāja by giving him material happiness and opulence, for these make one forget loving service to the Lord. The result of material opulence is that one can no longer absorb his mind in the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

PURPORT

There are two kinds of opulence. One, which results from one's karma, is material, whereas the other is spiritual. A surrendered soul who fully depends upon the Supreme Personality of Godhead does not want material opulence for sense gratification.

Therefore when a pure devotee is seen to possess exalted material opulence, it is not due to his karma. Rather, it is due to his bhakti. In other words, he is in that position because the Supreme Lord wants him to execute service to Him very easily and opulently.

The special mercy of the Lord for the neophyte devotee is that he becomes materially poor. This is the Lord's mercy because if a neophyte devotee becomes materially opulent, he forgets the service of the Lord. However, if an advanced devotee is favored by the Lord with opulence, it is not material opulence but a spiritual opportunity.

Material opulence offered to the demigods causes forgetfulness of the Lord, but opulence was given to Bali Mahārāja for continuing service to the Lord, which was free from any touch of māyā.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.23

TRANSLATION

When the Supreme Personality of Godhead could see no other means of taking everything away from Bali Mahārāja, He adopted the trick of begging from him and took away all the three worlds. Thus only his body was left, but the Lord was still not satisfied.

He arrested Bali Mahārāja, bound him with the ropes of Varuṇa and threw him in a cave in a mountain. Nevertheless, although all his property was taken and he was thrown into a cave, Bali Mahārāja was such a great devotee that he spoke as follows.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.24

TRANSLATION

Alas, how pitiable it is for Indra, the King of heaven, that although he is very learned and powerful and although he chose Bṛhaspati as his prime minister to instruct him, he is completely ignorant concerning spiritual advancement. Bṛhaspati is also unintelligent because he did not properly instruct his disciple Indra.

Lord Vāmanadeva was standing at Indra's door, but King Indra, instead of begging Him for an opportunity to render transcendental loving service, engaged Him in asking me for alms to gain the three worlds for his sense gratification.

Sovereignty over the three worlds is very insignificant because whatever material opulence one may possess lasts only for an age of Manu, which is but a tiny fraction of endless time.

PURPORT

Bali Mahārāja was so powerful that he fought with Indra and took possession of the three worlds. Indra was certainly very advanced in knowledge, but instead of asking Vāmanadeva for engagement in His service, he used the Lord to beg for material possessions that would lie finished at the end of one age of Manu.

An age of Manu, which is the duration of Manu's life, is calculated to last seventy-two yugas. One yuga consists of 4,300,000 years, and therefore the duration of Manu's life is 309,600,000 years.

The demigods possess their material opulence only until the end of the life of Manu. Time is insurmountable. The time one is allotted, even if it be millions of years, is quickly gone.

The demigods own their material possessions only within the limits of time. Therefore Bali Mahārāja lamented that although Indra was very learned, he did not know how to use his intelligence properly, for instead of asking Vāmanadeva to allow him to engage in His service, Indra used Him to beg Bali Mahārāja for material wealth.

Although Indra was learned and his prime minister, Bṛhaspati, was also learned, neither of them begged to be able to render loving service to Lord Vāmanadeva. Therefore Bali Mahārāja lamented for Indra.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.25

TRANSLATION

Bali Mahārāja said: My grandfather Prahlāda Mahārāja is the only person who understood his own self-interest. Upon the death of Prahlāda's father, Hiraṇyakaśipu, Lord Nṛsiḿhadeva wanted to offer Prahlāda his father's kingdom and even wanted to grant him liberation from material bondage, but Prahlāda accepted neither.

Liberation and material opulence, he thought, are obstacles to devotional service, and therefore such gifts from the Supreme Personality of Godhead are not His actual mercy.

Consequently, instead of accepting the results of karma and jñāna, Prahlāda Mahārāja simply begged the Lord for engagement in the service of His servant.

PURPORT

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu has instructed that an unalloyed devotee should consider himself a servant of the servant of the servant of the Supreme Lord (gopī-bhartuḥ pāda-kamalayor dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ).

In Vaiṣṇava philosophy, one should not even become a direct servant. Prahlāda Mahārāja was offered all the blessings of an opulent position in the material world and even the liberation of merging into Brahman, but he refused all this.

He simply wanted to engage in the service of the servant of the servant of the Lord. Therefore Bali Mahārāja said that because his grandfather Prahlāda Mahārāja had rejected the blessings of the Supreme Personality of Godhead in terms of material opulence and liberation from material bondage, he truly understood his self-interest.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.26

TRANSLATION

Bali Mahārāja said: Persons like us, who are still attached to material enjoyment, who are contaminated by the modes of material nature and who lack the mercy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, cannot follow the supreme path of Prahlāda Mahārāja, the exalted devotee of the Lord.

PURPORT

It is said that for spiritual realization one must follow great personalities like Lord Brahmā, Devarṣi Nārada, Lord Śiva and Prahlāda Mahārāja. The path of bhakti is not at all difficult if we follow in the footsteps of previous ācāryas and authorities, but those who are too materially contaminated by the modes of material nature cannot follow them.

Although Bali Mahārāja was actually following the path of his grandfather, because of his great humility he thought that he was not. It is characteristic of advanced Vaiṣṇavas following the principles of bhakti that they think themselves ordinary human beings. This is not an artificial exhibition of humility; a Vaiṣṇava sincerely thinks this way and therefore never admits his exalted position.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.27

TRANSLATION

Śukadeva Gosvāmī continued: My dear King, how shall I glorify the character of Bali Mahārāja? The Supreme Personality of Godhead, the master of the three worlds, who is most compassionate to His own devotee, stands with club in hand at Bali Mahārāja's door.

When Rāvaṇa, the powerful demon, came to gain victory over Bali Mahārāja, Vāmanadeva kicked him a distance of eighty thousand miles with His big toe. I shall explain the character and activities of Bali Mahārāja later [in the Eighth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam].

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.28

TRANSLATION

Beneath the planet known as Sutala is another planet, called Talātala, which is ruled by the Dānava demon named Maya. Maya is known as the ācārya [master] of all the māyāvīs, who can invoke the powers of sorcery.

For the benefit of the three worlds, Lord Śiva, who is known as Tripurāri, once set fire to the three kingdoms of Maya, but later, being pleased with him, he returned his kingdom. Since that time, Maya Dānava has been protected by Lord Śiva, and therefore he falsely thinks that he need not fear the Sudarśana cakra of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.29

TRANSLATION

The planetary system below Talātala is known as Mahātala. It is the abode of many-hooded snakes, descendants of Kadrū, who are always very angry. The great snakes who are prominent are Kuhaka, Takṣaka, Kāliya and Suṣeṇa.

The snakes in Mahātala are always disturbed by fear of Garuḍa, the carrier of Lord Viṣṇu, but although they are full of anxiety, some of them nevertheless sport with their wives, children, friends and relatives.

PURPORT

It is stated here that the snakes who live in the planetary system known as Mahātala are very powerful and have many hoods. They live with their wives and children and consider themselves very happy, although they are always full of anxiety because of Garuḍa, who comes there to destroy them.

This is the way of material life. Even if one lives in the most abominable condition, he still thinks himself happy with his wife, children, friends and relatives.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.30

TRANSLATION

Beneath Mahātala is the planetary system known as Rasātala, which is the abode of the demoniac sons of Diti and Danu. They are called Paṇis, Nivāta-kavacas, Kāleyas and Hiraṇya-puravāsīs [those living in Hiraṇya-pura]. They are all enemies of the demigods, and they reside in holes like snakes.

From birth they are extremely powerful and cruel, and although they are proud of their strength, they are always defeated by the Sudarśana cakra of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who rules all the planetary systems.

When a female messenger from Indra named Saramā chants a particular curse, the serpentine demons of Mahātala become very afraid of Indra.

PURPORT

It is said that there was a great fight between these serpentine demons and Indra, the King of heaven. When the defeated demons met the female messenger Saramā, who was chanting a mantra, they became afraid, and therefore they are living in the planet called Rasātala.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.31

TRANSLATION

Beneath Rasātala is another planetary system, known as Pātāla or Nāgaloka, where there are many demoniac serpents, the masters of Nāgaloka, such as Śańkha, Kulika, Mahāśańkha, Śveta, Dhanañjaya, Dhṛtarāṣṭra, Śańkhacūḍa, Kambala, Aśvatara and Devadatta. The chief among them is Vāsuki.

They are all extremely angry, and they have many, many hoods — some snakes five hoods, some seven, some ten, others a hundred and others a thousand. These hoods are bedecked with valuable gems, and the light emanating from the gems illuminates the entire planetary system of bila-svarga.

Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports of the Fifth Canto, Twenty-fourth Chapter of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled "The Subterranean Heavenly Planets."











Saturday, May 18, 2019

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu appears in ''one'' Kali-yuga out of every 1000 with His great Sankirtan Movement, that is "once" every 8 billion 640 million human years or "once" in Brahma's 24 hour day.

The Sankirtan Movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is a great gift to the world and a very rare event.

Many do not realize how rare Lord Caitanya's appearance is in this individual Universe as He comes only "once" in a 24 hour day and night of Lord Brahmā which is "once" every 8 billion 640 million human years.


That is once out of every 1000nd Kali-yugas in the cycle of Maha-yugas that happen during Lord Brahma's daytime from Sunrise to Sunset.

There are 4 Yugas to a Maha-yuga (Satya, Treta, Dvarpara, Kali)

There are no Maha-yugas during Lord Brahma's night from Sunset to Sunrise when a partial annihilation happens.


Lord Brahma's night of sleeping is called the "Night of Brahma" and there are no cycles of yugas during that ''sleeping time of Brahma'' as already explained.

This takes approximately 12 hours of Brahma's 24 hour day which is 4 billion 320 million human years.



Lord Caitanya appears ''once'' in a Kali-yuga with His Sankirtan Movement out of every one thousand Kali-yugas

There are 4 million 320 thousand human years in a Maha-yuga.

Multiply that by 1000 (Maha-yugas) and that equals 4 billion 320 million human years.

Then add another 4 billion 320 million years for Brahma's night time period (the same amount of time as the day time) when Brahma rests while a partial annihilation goes on.

So Brahma's 24 hour "day-night" period equals 8 billion 640 million human years.

So it is important to understand there are no Maha-yugas during Lord Brahma's night.

Therefore we can understand that Lord Caitanya's appearance is very rare as He only comes just once in a Kali-yuga over that enormous period of time (8 billion 640 million human years.)



Krishna also comes "once" out of every 1000 Maha yugas at the end of a Dvarpara-yuga over a period of 24 hours of Brahma.

Krishna appears in His original body at the end of every 1000th Dvarpara-yuga just before Lord Caitanya's appearance in every 1000th the Kali-yuga.

In this rare Kali-yuga there there is also a 10,000 years Golden Age of the Sankirtan Movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu or the congregational chanting of the Hare Krishna Maha mantra, the previous 999 Kali-yugas had no Lord Caitanya or Golden Age of Sankirtan.



The Four Yugas.

The four yugas make up a cycle called Divya-yuga or Maha-yuga, which lasts 4,320,000 human years.

One thousand of these yugas equal one day-time period from Sunrise to Sunset of Brahma 24 hour day, which is called a kalpa and another one thousand makes up a night.

Brahma's lifespan is 100 years of his time and 311 Trillion 40 billion years of our time.

SATYA YUGA - (sometimes also called krta-yuga): The golden age lasts 1,728,000 years. The process of self-realization in this yuga is meditation on Vishnu. During this yuga the majority of the population is situated in the mode of goodness and the average life span at the beginning of the yuga is 100,000 years.

TRETA YUGA - Also called the silver age, lasts 1,296,000 years and the process of self realization is the performance of opulent yajnas(sacrifices). The average life span is 10,000 years and the godly qualities decrease one fourth compared to the Satya yuga.

DVAPARA YUGA - Or the bronze age, lasts 864,000 years and the process of self realization is the worship of the deities within temples. Godly qualities are reduced to 50% by now and the average life expectancy is only 1000 years.

KALI YUGA - The iron age of hypocrisy and quarrel lasts 432,000 years. Lord Krsna appeared in His original, transcendental form right before the beginning of a Kali-yuga at the end of Dvarpara-yuga in ''one day and night'' of Brahma which is every 1000 cycles of yugas.

The time span of the 1000 Maha-yugas takes 4 billion 320 million human years and is equal in time to the night of Brahma.

Therefore there is no cycles of 4 yugas at night for 4 billion 320 million years.

Both Krishna in His original Form and Lord Caitanya do NOT appear in every Maha-yuga. Krishna does not appear at the end of every Dvarpara-yuga and Lord Caitanya does NOT appear in every Kali-yuga as explained above.

Lord Kṛṣṇa Himself in His original blackish color does not appear in every Dvāpara-yugas in a day of Brahma.

CC Madhya 20.337

By His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

TEXT 337

TRANSLATION

“‘In Dvāpara-yuga the Personality of Godhead appears in a blackish hue. He is dressed in yellow, He holds His own weapons, and He is decorated with the Kaustubha jewel and the mark of Śrīvatsa. That is how His symptoms are described.’

PURPORT

This is a quotation from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (SB 11.5.27). The śyāma color is not exactly blackish. Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura compares it to the color of the atasī flower.
It is not that Lord Kṛṣṇa Himself appears in a blackish color in all the Dvāpara-yugas.

In other Dvāpara-yugas, previous to Lord Kṛṣṇa’s appearance, the Supreme Lord appeared in a greenish body by His own personal expansion. This is mentioned in the Viṣṇu Purāṇa, Hari-vaṁśa and Mahābhārata.

some references in sastra also say 8 billion 640 billion while in other places it says 8 billion 600 million for example.Bhagavad Gita Preface:

Srila Prabhupada - ''Our only purpose is to present this Bhagavad-gītā As It Is in order to guide the conditioned student to the same purpose for which Kṛṣṇa descends to this planet once in a day of Brahmā, or every 8,600,000,000 years''.

Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 3.10,

Purport:

Now is the term of Vaivasvata Manu, during which Lord Caitanya appears. First Lord Kṛṣṇa appears at the close of the Dvāpara-yuga of the twenty-eighth divya-yuga, and then Lord Caitanya appears in the Kali-yuga of the same divya-yuga.
Lord Kṛṣṇa and Lord Caitanya appear once in each day of Brahmā, or once in fourteen manvantaras, each of seventy-one divya-yugas in duration.

From the beginning of Brahmā’s day of 4,320,000,000 years, six Manus appear and disappear before Lord Kṛṣṇa appears. Thus 1,975,320,000 years of the day of Brahmā elapse before the appearance of Lord Kṛṣṇa. This is an astronomical calculation according to solar years.

Note - There is also 4,320,000,000 years in Brahma' inactive sleeping night where there are no cycle if yugas so a night and day together is 8,640,000,000 years.

Sometimes one will notice figures in some Purports are a little different from other Purports in Prabhupada's Books, for example here a day and night of Brahma is 8 billion 640 million were as in the preface of Bhagavad gita it says 8 billion 600 million.

Renunciation Through Wisdom 4.5:

The undifferentiated Absolute Truth, the original Supreme Personality, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, incarnates in this material world once in every day of Lord Brahmā—that is once every 8,640,000,000 solar years—to shower His mercy upon both His surrendered devotees and the atheistic nondevotees. He protects His devotees and slays the atheistic demons, thus giving the latter troublesome release, so to speak, in impersonal liberation.

Lecture on SB 6.1.3 -- Melbourne, May 22, 1975:

Prabhupāda: Oh. Anyway, I give you the right figure, four million, according to American or English calculation, (laughter) 4,300,000 years and multiply it by one thousand. Then what it comes according to English calculation? That is twelve hours. And add again twelve hours, night. Then eight billion...?

Paramahaṁsa: 600,000,000?

Prabhupāda: So Kṛṣṇa comes after this period. (laughter) In one day, after one day of Brahma, He appears.

Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, does Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu also appear every day of Brahma?

Prabhupāda: Yes, following Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa comes in the Dvāpara-yuga. There are four periods of each yuga: Sattva, Tretā, Dvāpara, Kali. So Kṛṣṇa comes at the end of Dvāpara-yuga, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu comes in the Kali-yuga"

Conclusion.

So if one does the maths there is 1000 Maha-yugas in the  day time of Brahma that equals 4 billion 320 million human years and there is another 4 billion 320 million human years in the night time of Brahma's day where he sleeps and creates no cycle of yugas.

Therefore a day-night of Lord Brahma adds up to 8 billion 640 million human years.

There are 4,320,000 human years in a Maha Yuga multiply that by 1000 (that equals 4 billion 320 million years) then add another 4 billion 329 million years for Brahmas night of sleep where no yugas are created and you will see that Lord Caitanya’s appearance in one ''day and night'' of Brahma is very rare.

Compiled by Gauragopala dasa ACBSP










Wednesday, May 15, 2019

The Lord is never visible to the pseudo devotees!

The Lord is never visible to the pseudo devotees who ignore the instructions of Lord Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

They only foolishly try to satisfy their material desires and enjoy this temporary material creation by worshiping the demigods in charge of universal affairs and gain favours for material benedictions, followers and wealth.

Such pseudo devotees, who are always making plans to improve their material comfort and possessions, do not understand that this impermanent material Universe is always in a state of decay and decline that needs constant maintenance and repairs to keep working.

The fact is, the material bodily vessel we are in and the surrounding material world was NEVER our real self or our permanent home to begin with, in fact, we are not even suppose to be here in this world of death!

Our real perpetual homes are without beginning or end and never experience decay and impermanence.

Such Worlds are known as Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan.

These Spiritual Worlds (our real homes) are beyond this temporary material creation.


Depending on what our eternal youthful relationship with the Lord is, we can have an "all in reverence servitude relationship"  with Narayana or Vishnu in the Vaikuntha Planets as in above painting.


Or we can go to Krsna's eternal abode and be Krsna's most confidential friend in unlimited different pastimes in Goloka-Vrindavana that the painting above shows.

In this painting, one associates with Krsna as a Cow herd boy and has no idea Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, nor do they care.

To the Cow herd boys, Krsna is just their wonderful amazing friend.

In fact, just being in the material world outside the eternal Spiritual realm of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, is described by Prabhupada as follows -

Srila Prabhupada - ''When the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But when the supreme marginal potency is in contact with the spiritual potency, Harā, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity''.

The conclusion is that the Lord cannot become the order supplier of a pseudo devotee, but He is always prepared to respond to the  selfless desires of a pure, unconditional surrendered devotee, who is free from all tinges of material  identity (infection.)








Tuesday, May 14, 2019

What is the difference between the small "Earth Mandala planetary sphere or globe" and the Bhu-Mandala Universe that is 4 billion miles in diameter and made up with 14 different Planetary Systems?

What is the difference between the Earth and Bhu-Mandala?

Our Earth we live on is a small round spherical planet seen as a global planet existing in the 8th System called Bhurloka out of the 14 Planetary System's that make up our Universe called Bhu-Mandala.

The "Earth Mandala" we live on is a "round global sphere".

The "Bhu-Mandala" terminology refers to our entire inner material Universe that exists deep inside and encased in our surrounding massive Brahmanda.

All Brahmanda greater Universe's originate from the Bodily pores and breathing of Maha Vishnu.



The word "Mandala" here has two meanings,

1 - Our earth globe

2 - Our 500,000,000 yojanas in diameter or 4 billion mile diameter universe according to Srimad Bhagavatam.

The greater Earth Mandala that is 4 billion miles in diameter (also called an Earth) in NOT to be confused with our small Earth global sphere we live on.

Bhu-Mandala (the greater Earth Mandala) is the entire expanse of Planets within all the 14 different planetary systems in outerspace spreading to a diameter of 4 billion miles and having a circumference of 12 billion 340 million miles.

The small Earth Mandala we live on is a "round global sphere" and has a diameter of 7,918 miles and a circumference of 24,900 miles only.

The Bhu-Mandala planetary expanse of globes in outspace is way bigger than our small single earth globe where we live on.

Bhu-Mandala is almost 4 billion miles in diameter and 12,340 billion miles in Circumference so it is NOT our small earth planet we live.

Therefore where we live (on our Earth globe) is NOT the "greater Earth Mandala" called Bhu-Mandala that some wrongly believe is our small earth.

Bhu-Mandala is described as 4 billion miles in diameter in Srimad Bhagavatam which is also described as the size of this single material universe with its 14 planetary systems as painting shows.

Furthermore this single universe known as Bhu-Mandala is very deep within and surrounded by a greater global universal egg shaped spherical outer shell made up of 7 or sometimes described as 8 layers of material elements of solids, liquids and gases.

Billions of these greater global universal egg shaped spherical balls are coming from the Body of Maha Vishnu as seen in painting of Maha Vishnu.

And deep inside each ball is a smaller inner world of many planetary systems that are all similar to our small 4 billion mile diameter Bhu-Mandala universe.

Keep in mind that Islands mentioned in Srimad Bhagavatam can ''also'' mean global planets in outer space like our earth planet that floats in outer space.

Srila Prabhupada - ''Just like here, in this planet you see flat, but when you go up you see it is ball, you see just like a ball.” (Lectures, Bhagavad-gita 2.12, New York, March 9, 1966)''

Srila Prabhupada - ''Dvipas (islands) are planets in outer space'' (CC Madhya 20.218)

Srila Prabhupada - ''The floating of the planets in the weightless air is due to the inner constitution of the globes, and the modernized drilling of the earth to exploit oil from within is a sort of disturbance by the modern demons and can result in a greatly harmful reaction to the floating condition of the earth''. Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 7 Text 1

The Bhu-Mandala Universe is also known as the ''Greater Earth Mandala" which includes the entire 14 different Planetary Systems and is not to be confused with our ''small Earth Mandala'' globe we live on.

Therefore there are two Earth Mandala descriptions in Srimad Bhagavatam

1 - "The large Earth Mandala" called Bhu-Mandala which is our entire 6 billion 438 million kilometres in diameter Universe.

2 - "The small Earth Mandala" which is our round Earth global sphere which is a small Planet in space that has a diameter of 12,742 Kilometres and is in the middle Planetary System as shown in the photo of the 14 Planetary Systems which is the Bhu-Mandala Universe.

So the Bhu-Mandala Universe is the "greater Earth Mandala" that is 6 billion 438 million kilometers in diameter and is the size of our small universe.

The "smaller Earth Mandala" or our round Earth global sphere is just 12,742 kilometers in diameter therefore our small Earth is NOT the greater Earth Bhu-Mandala.

Srila Prabhupada - "Within this material energy there are innumerable universes, in every universe there are innumerable material planets, and the earth is one of these planets. Thus we can understand what an insignificant part of the entire cosmos is this globe on which we live''. (Light of the Bhāgavata 47)

The circumference of our earth globe around the equator is 40,075 km and the Earth"s diameter is 12,742 km.

So in no way is our small Earth globe Bhu-Mandala which is way to big to be our small Earth globe Sadaputa prabhu has also explained and described in Srimad Bhagavatam's 5th Canto as being -

6 billion 438 million kilometers in diameter or 4 billion miles in diameter - 500,000,000 yojanas in diameter.

And almost 20 billion kilometers in circumference.

This just happens to be the size also of our entire small Universe that is deep within and surrounded by a bigger Brahmanda egg shaped Universe that comes from Maha Vishnu with billions of other Brahmandas in all different sizes.

Painting shows global planetary spheres within the Bhu-Mandala Universe that has 14 planetary systems in it all having global planets in outer space






Monday, May 13, 2019

Flat Earth or Spherical Earth? By: HH Danavir Goswami Maharaja

Flat Earth or Spherical Earth?

By: HH Danavir Goswami Maharaja

Question #1:

Many people (flat earth supporters) say that Bharata-khaṇḍa[our earth planet] is flat because it is just an island (dvipa) as it is mentioned in Visnu and Vayu Puranas, not as a globe. What is your opinion of the flat earth theory?

(NOTE - Who ever asked this question seems to not be aware that the word "dvipa" can ALSO mean globe's in outer space as explained by Prabhupada.

Srila Prabhupada - ''Dvipas (islands) are planets in outer space'' (CC Madhya 20.218)

Danavir Goswami Maharaja continues -

If it is flat, then how can we explain day-night changes, because a flat surface will have sunlight twenty-four hours a day, 360 days a year. The sun is not a small object that only brightens 500 yojanas (4,000 miles) area and not even 1,000 yojanas area.

Then Bharata-khaṇḍa should be in conical shape (like a mountain or temple gopuram) to explain the day-night changes as we experience.

Then what about main stream science that speaks about globular earth with its day-night changes and change in seasons?

Danavir Goswami Answer #1:

We don't find a description in the sastras of Jambudvipa as being spherical—circular yes, spherical no.

Regarding the earth we live on which is called Bharata-khaṇḍa, it appears that it is a completely round sphere.

Here is the evidence using sastra caksus (seeing through the eyes of the sastras- scriptures) and hearing from the acaryas. Below see a quotation from Siddhanta siromani and a note (commentary) by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura.

"It is said that the circumference of the earth is 4,967 yojanas and its diameter is 1,581 yojanas. If we subtract the latitudes of the two places situated north and south of each other, multiply that difference with the circumference of the earth and divide this product with 360, we can determine the distance between them in yojanas." *

*Bimala Prasada Siddhanta Saraswati's Note: "According to Aryabhata, the circumference of the earth is 1050 yojanas (Aryasiddhantanuvada, page 3).

According to Śrī Sūrya-siddhānta the circumference of the earth is 1,600 yojanas (page 9).

According to Prof. Beschel, the longest radius of earth is 3962.802 miles and the shortest radius is 3949.555 miles (see Golaadhyaya Page 34)." (Siddhanta Siromani p.151)

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta is placing forward four authoritative opinions regarding the circumference of the earth we live on (Bharata-khaṇḍa).

The first is the opinion of Siddhanta Siromani—circumference: 4,967 yojanas: rounded off to 5,000 yojanas (40,000 miles). Its diameter is 1581 yojanas (12,648 miles).

The second opinion is from Sixth-century astronomer Aryabhata— circumference: 1050 yojanas (8,400 miles). It's diameter: 334 yojanas (2,675 miles)

The third opinion is from Sūrya-siddhānta— circumference: 1,600 yojanas (12,800 miles). Its diameter is 509 yojanas (4,072 miles)

The fourth is from Prof. Beschel— circumference: 3,100 yojanas (24,800 miles). Its diameter is 987 yojanas (7,900 miles)

Which is almost the same as modern day calculations:

The equatorial circumference of -

1 - Earth is about 24,901 miles (40,075 km)

2 - The Diameter of Earth is 7,926 miles  (12,742 km)

The terms "circumference" and "diameter" are given in the singular indicating that in all four views, earth (Bharata-khaṇḍa) is taken as a round sphere.

The definition of a "circumference" is, "the outer boundary, especially of a circular area; perimeter."

The definition of a "diameter" is, "a straight line passing through the center of a circle or sphere and meeting the circumference or surface at each end."

The earth Bharata-khaṇḍa is "spherical round" that accommodates the view of day and night and the seasons.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura construes the earth to be a "round sphere" and uses Surya siddhanta, Siddhanta Siromani, Aryabhata and Western Scientist Professor Beschel as authorities to corroborate this fact.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta may well be one of the most qualified persons to explain Vedic cosmology because he is at once a master of Siddhantic Vedic astronomy and also a master of Puranic sastra, in particular, of Bhagavata Purana.

The planet earth we live on is located on the southern-most portion of Bhu-mandala's central island of Jambudvipa.


This portion called Bharatavarsa was originally a contiguous land mass but long ago it was drastically re-formed by the incredible digging of Emperor Sagara's sixty thousand sons.

They dug so extensively that most of Bharatavarsa became submerged into the saltwater ocean leaving only nine globular islands each with an 8,000 mile (one thousand yojanas) diameter.

One of these nine islands is our earth planet known primarily as Bharata-khaṇḍa, also known as "Kumara," "Kumarika," "Sagarasambhrta," and so forth.

"Śatasṛṅga was Bharata's son. Eight sons and a daughter were born to Śatasṛṅga. They were Indradvīpa, Kaśeru, Tāmradvīpa, Gabhastimān, Nāga, Saumya, Gāndharva and Varuṇa.

The girl's name was Kumārikā. Eight sons and a daughter were born to him. He divided this Bhārata sub-continent into nine regions. Eight of them he gave to his eight sons and the ninth one to Kumārī." (Skanda Purana)

"There are eight other continents viz. Indradvipa, Kaserukman, Tamraparna, Gabhastiman, Nagadvipa, Saumya, Gandharva, Varuna.

This continent (Bharata) situated in the sea is the ninth one. This continent extends from the south to the north for a thousand yojanas (8,000 miles)." (Kurma Purana)

"I shall mention nine subdivisions of the Bharata Varsa to you—Indradyumna, Kaseru, Tamravarna, Gabhastimat, Nagadvipa, Saumya, Gandharva, Varuna and the ninth is the sub-continent Sagarasambhrta. This sub-continent lies north to south extending to a thousand yojanas (8,000 miles)." (Siva Purana)

"Bharatavarsa has nine divisions; Viz.—Indradvipa, Kasera, Tamraparni, Gabhastimana, Nagadvipa, Saumya, Gandharva, Varuna; and the ninth is this place, surrounded on all sides by the ocean.

The whole of the dvipa is a thousand yojanas (8,000 miles) in extent, from north to south." (Matsya Purana, Chapter 14, texts 7-10)

"Within Bhārata-varṣa, there are nine khaṇḍas. They are known as (1) Aindra, (2) Kaśeru, (3) Tāmraparṇa, (4) Gabhastimāt, (5) Kumārikā, (6) Nāga, (7) Saumya, (8) Vāruṇa and (9) Gāndharva." (Siddhānta-śiromaṇi, Chapter One "Golādhyāya, Bhuvana-kośa section)

The north-south distance of 1,000 yojanas (8,000 miles) is constant among the Puranas. This north-south distance can be taken as the diameter of Bharata-khaṇḍa which means the circumference is about 25,000 miles.

We may note that there is agreement between the Puranic literature and Siddhantic literature on the specific nine islands created by Sagara's sons.

Furthermore, there is concurrence on the spherical nature of earth which is coincidentally supported by the western scientific view also.

The Bhagavata Purana refers to the earth as a globe in the following verses:

3.21.36 (mahīm),
4.9.51 (maṇḍalam),
4.18.29 (bhū-maṇḍalam);
4.21.36 (kṣoṇi-tale);
4.21.48 (pṛthvyāḥ),
4.24.10 (vasudhā-talam)
5.7.1 (avani-tala);
6.11.8 (gām), 7.3.5 (bhūḥ);
8.7.26 (kṣitim),
8.19.5 (mahīm),
10.68.46 (bhū-maṇḍalaṁ),
12.2.7 (kṣiti-maṇḍale).

There are also references to the planet Rahu as being the spherical shape made of the earth's shadow.

"Rāhu controls the shadow of the earth which is circular in shape. (Sridhara Swami on Canto 5, Chapter 57, texts 10-13) Rahu has been created after taking out the shadow of the earth and has a spherical shape." (Brahmanda Purana, Kurma Purana)

Question #2:

Do you agree that basically, the main explanation of the difference between the Vedic descriptions and modern cosmology boils down to our inability to perceive the "subtle characteristics" of the universe?

Danavir Goswami Answer #2:

Yes, I would agree with that. Modern science uses mathematics, physics, etc., along with radio telescopes, powerful cameras, space craft and other info-acquiring equipment to gather data from observations.

Then the data is analyzed and formulated into assumptions, hypotheses and theories. If a theory becomes popular, it is taken as fact for the time being until a more popular theory comes along.

Some of the primary postulates of modern astronomy, astrophysics and cosmology would include:

1 - The origin of the universe.
2 - The age of the universe.
3 - The purpose of the universe.
4 - How the universe acquired order and precision.
5 - The size of our universe.
6 - Whether life exists on other planets, etc.

Unfortunately, modern science lacks the ability to satisfactorily supply this information.

If science is lacking actual knowledge in all these areas mentioned above, one might ask, how then can science predict eclipses?

The answer is that certain aspects of our universe may be predicted accurately based on experiencing the cyclical and regulated functions of nature.

For example, any relatively experienced person can predict that the sea water will cover more of the shoreline during high tide and less during low tide.

With a little more experience he can calculate the patterns of the tides' changes and accurately predict more or less shore coverage.

Similarly, a person who studies the past records of an area can predict accurately that for areas in the northern hemisphere, the average temperature in January will be such and such degrees less than in July.

Making predictions about future astronomical occurrences are based on experience and observation. However, there is another method for getting this information which is from higher authorities.

Vedic cosmology receives much information from higher authorities as well as some support from mathematics such as trigonometry.

The knowledge acquired from higher authorities surpasses that which is derived from experience, observation and hypothesis.

A major drawback of modern science is that some of its assumptions hold that there exists nothing beyond what humans can perceive with their senses.

This excludes the existence of higher dimensional principles including souls (atmas), a supreme all-powerful intelligent designer (paramatma) or any other aspects of the supernatural.

Question #3:

But, what about what we can perceive with advanced technology (like the photographs taken by the Hubble telescope?)

How does Vedic cosmology explain the image below, for example (taken with a visible light camera and an infrared camera)?

Danavir Goswami Answer #3:

Believing that because modern science can provide us with colorful, spectacular images of the night sky therefore all its theories are factual is illogical.

The asuras were so captivated by beautiful Mohini murti's looks that they trusted her with the nectar they had nearly died to acquire. She deceived the asuras and they lost the nectar.


What we see in the photograph (above) appears to be planets or astro bodies floating in space surrounded by some other matter that seems to form cloud-like appearances.

The photograph does not inform us how, when or why the universe began, how the universe is being managed with its ordered complexities.

It doesn't tell us whether life exists on other planets, nor does it tell us the distances between the astro bodies in space.

In 2018 modern astronomy experts inform that the distance from earth to the furthest visible galaxy is approximately thirty-two billion light-years.

Some students say that unless they get tangible evidence to support that assumption, they cannot believe it.

The convincing way to acquire the evidence would be to send a high-velocity manned-spaceship to measure the time it takes to reach the distant galaxy.

If the spaceship could travel at the speed of light (186,000 miles per second) it would take thirty-two billion years to reach the distant galaxy.

With an average lifespan of 80 years per astronaut, 400 million generations would be required to sustain the mission.

That's far too long to wait for the evidence.

Perhaps it would be preferable to avoid the trouble of sending a manned-spacecraft and instead bounce a laser beam off the distant galaxy.

This would be much cheaper and would only require a powerful laser beamer, travel time and personnel to monitor the beam's progress in space and its moment of contact with the target.

Scientists today are hoping in this generation to beam a laser to a closer galaxy, Alpha Centauri, (4.24 light-years from the sun) which would only take twenty years to reach.

At that rate, however, it would require about 160 billion years for a laser beam to reach the farthest galaxy. That's approximately 2.46 billion generations of earth-based lab experts that would be needed to track the beam's progress in space and to see the project through to success.

This is far too long to wait for evidence.

In the astronomical map above (dated 1860 A.D.) included in Ebenezer Burgess's translation of the Surya Siddhanta from Sanskrit to English, it is interesting to note the following.

Many of the constellations accepted by Western science such as (Orion, Bootes, Coma, Auriga, Perseus, Andromeda, Cetus, Eridanus, Monoceros, Canis Minor, Hydra, Crater, Corvus, Serpens, Serpentarius, Hercules, Lyra, Cygnus, Pegasus, Delphin, Aquiea and Scorpius), are placed along with the Vedic signs of the zodiac (rāśis) namely (Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn, Sagittarius, Scorpio, Libra, Virgo, Leo, Cancer, Gemini, Taurus and Aries) as well as many Vedic stars, namely (Punarvasu, Puṣyā, Ārdrā, Aśleṣā, Abhijit, Śravaṇā, Mūlā, Maghā, Anurādhā, Mṛgaśīrṣā, Śatabhiṣā, Jyeṣṭhā, Revatī, Aśvinī, Bharanī, Kṛttikā, Rohiṇī, Hasta, Citra, Svāti, Viśākhā, Phalgunī, Āṣāḍha, and Bhādrapadā).

This indicates that the Vedic cosmological paradigm with its zodiac and stars also accommodates the constellations cited by Western astronomers.

In other words, the four billion mile inside diameter of the brahmanda (round egg shaped universe that we live in) encompasses space, oceans, stars, planets and earth that we can see.

This is described in the Vedas such as the Puranas, Mahabharata, Ramayana, Garga Samhita, Brahma Samhita, and the Jyoti sastras.

Appendix

Astronomical Image processing – a primer
By Ananda Jagannath das (communications assistant to HH Danavir Goswami)

The astronomical images we see on the web such as the Westerlund2 star cluster seen in Question #3 is a processed image from raw data obtained from the Hubble Space Telescope.

The telescope is stationed approximately 350 miles above the earth's surface and is designed to capture light from distant galaxies. The raw data is in greyscale pixels.

According to the different wavelengths of light, different light filters are applied by scientists to the raw images to obtain a colorful picture that is visible to the human eye.

Graphics enhancement programs such as FITS Liberator is used for this purpose. Because there is human interpretation of raw data, it is prone to error and can be falsified in the future with advancement in technology. Therefore, astronomical images cannot be interpreted as the actual visual truth.

According to one popular science website, creating raw images involves freedom on the part of the scientist.

"When processing raw science images one of the biggest problems is that, to a large degree, you are 'creating' the image and this means a colossal freedom within a huge parameter space…There are some fundamental scientific principles that should normally be observed, but the rest is a matter of aesthetics — taste"

Source:https://www.spacetelescope.org/projects/fits_liberator/improc/- accessed January 13, 2019

http://hubble.stsci.edu/ - accessed January 13, 2019

https://www.space.com/8059-truth-photos-hubble-space-telescope-sees.html - accessed January 7, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAL2VrHWRQ0 – accessed January 7, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LvY1nQibyo – accessed January 7, 2019. End

A man in a hot air balloon reached 128,000 feet which is the edge of space, at that height he could clearly see the curvature of the the Earth.

This is further proof our Earth is a global round sphere.

This is his what he experienced -

https://youtu.be/FHtvDA0W34I

Sunday, May 12, 2019

To believe all Moon expeditions are hoaxes would involve hundreds of thousands of people and with organizations like Wikileaks, to keep it all some big secret and a Governmet hoax is a nonsense ridiculous idea.

Today 36% of NASA employees are Indians Hindus.

And in the last 5 years, China, India, Japan, Russia have all sent rockets to the Moon it is claimed.

China, India and Japan have sent rovers there as well taking 4k clear photos in the last 5 years like the one included at bottom of the page which is the 1969 Apollo 11 site.


To claim all these countries are in on some big hoax just seems impossible.

To believe it is all a hoax would involve hundreds of thousands of people and with organizations like Wikileaks keeping it all some big secret is a ridiculous idea.

And because most Astronauts and scientists are meat eaters or believe in evolution, same sex marriages, homosexuality and abortion, does not make them wrong about going to the moon as the fundamental fanatcs argue.

Devotees get bypass heart surgery and other operations by Doctors who also believe in the same things however, that does not make there surgery on a devotee wrong because of what they believe in?

It's a silly nonsense argument

Intelligent People see that living a  sinful life and not believing in God, does not make everything they do wrong.

Many in NASA are Christians too even though their endevour to go in outerspace is a waste of time and money.

It's silly to use the argument that because they believe that life comes from matter or they support abortion as an argument and claim they never went to the Moon.

As said above, what about all the sinful doctors who perform life saving operations on devotees? Is their work also destined to fail?

Of course not.

Another question, why does the Srimad Bhagavatam say the moon is further away from Earth than the sun?

Srimad Bhagavatam 8.10.38, Srila Prabhupada says 

"The Sun is supposed to be 93,000,000 miles above the surface of the Earth, and from the SB, we understand that the Moon is 1,600,000 miles above the Sun. Therefore the distance between the Earth and the Moon would be about 95,000,000 miles."

Lets be clear, the purport doesn’t say the moon is bigger or larger than the Sun however, it does in other passages in the Srimad Bhagavatam such as Canto 5 Chapter 24 Text 2, where it is said the Moon is Bigger than the sun.

How?

Dr. Richard L. Thompson (Disciple of Srila Prabhupada and co-author of, famous book “The hidden history of Human Race”) Says:

A: This is another case of an apparent contradiction. Since we have practically no information, we cannot make a definite statement. 
But it is possible that the larger sizes of the moon and Rahu may have to do with the higher-dimensional aspects of these planets.

The Sürya-siddhanta gives a diameter of 2,400 miles for the moon. This is close to the modern figure (see Section 1.e).

—An excerpt from Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy.

Also the calculations found in Srimad Bhagavatam of the Moon being further away from Earth than the Sun are based on Vertical measurements from the plain of Bhu Mandala (Earth's Celestial equator) whereas Srila Prabhupada is describing the horizontal distances from Earth across the solar system.

Why it should be related to higher dimensional aspects that Sadaputa claims?

Because the Verse SB 5.24.2 does not talk from the perspective of ordinary humans or 3 dimensional reality.

But, if you read properly the purport of Srimad Bhagavatam 8.10.38, then you can understand that Srila Prabhupada says the moon is ABOVE the Sun.

Q: The Vedic literature says the moon is higher than the sun. How can this be?

Answer by Dr.Richard L. Thompson: In Chapter 22 of the Fifth Canto, the heights of the planets above the earth are given, and it is stated that the moon is 100,000 yojanas (measurement unit) above the rays of the sun.

In this chapter, the word "above" means "above the plane of Bhu-mandala." It does not refer to distance measured radially from the surface of the earth globe.

In Section 4.b we show that if the plane of Bhu-mandala corresponds to the plane of the ecliptic, then it indeed makes sense to say that the moon is higher than the sun relative to Bhu-mandala. 

This does not mean that the moon is farther from the earth globe than the sun.

For example, if point A is in a plane, B is 1,000 miles above the plane, and C is 2,000 miles above the plane, we cannot necessarily conclude that C is further from A than B is.

—An excerpt from Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy.

Below are more photos taken in 2015 proving the Apollo landing sites from 1969 to 1972 exist and that the Moon landings were NOT a hoax.



https://www.space.com/14874-apollo-11-landing-site-moon-photo.html

Srila Prabhupada always maintained they never went to the Moon but I believe he really meant the "subtle reality of the Moon".

This technically means there are really "two Moons" one ''subtle'' and one ''gross'' not properly researched by the devotees today as an answer to the Moon controversies and conspiracy theories

In other words the answer could be explained that there are ''two Moons'' in the same space, one we can see and visit in a gross body.

The other we cannot see or enter in a gross body because of its higher dimensional heavenly status.

1 - One realm we see in our gross material body, 

2 - The other we do not see in a gross material body because it is a subtle material heavenly realm only attained via the accumulation of pious activity.

This conclusion is reached because the Moon has two realities -

1 - Subtle material reality.
2 - Gross matter material reality.

We in a gross material body cannot see or experience the "subtle matter reality" but we CAN see and experience the "gross matter reality".

This also answers how man could go to the Moon.

Lets look at the facts in 2019 about these old 1970s Moon landing conspiracy theories claiming, even by Srila Prabhupada however, he really meant they could never go to the "subtle reality" of the Moon?

Over 450,000 people worked on the Apollo missions that eventually took man to the Moon in the late 1960s, to keep a secret among all these people that it was all some clever hoax is impossible.

And today in 2019 many Countries are continuously sending spacecrafts to the Moon, it is not only NASA anymore, it is China, India, Japan, Russia, Israel, European Union.

The manned Moon landings between 1969 and 1972 DID happen without any doubt, the evidence is overwhelming!

And if Srila Prabhupada's opinion does NOT convince me the Moon manned landings never happened and was "all bluff", then no one else has any chance of convincing me we never went to the "gross Moon".

Srila Prabhupada always maintained they never went to the Moon but I believe he really meant the "subtle reality of the Moon".

This means there are really two Moons not considered by Prabhupada back in the early 1970s.

The Moon landings therefore were NOT a hoax or some silly Government conspiracy as about 6% of uneducated Americans believe.

What we see in the sky and what the Astronauts visited was the "gross Moon" not the "subtle Moon" that is not seen.

If we see the Moon from earth then that must be the gross reality Moon otherwise we would not be able to see it.

Since 1969, many have said they never went to the Moon, so it was not just Prabhupada saying this.

This was also because very little of this new technology was understood back in the late 1960s and early 1970s even by Prabhupada, and especially by his very young immature disciples, some with university degrees, all in there early 20s back then.

Today in 2019 it is nonsense to continue these conspiracy theories that they never went to the Moon.

As said above, Srila Prabhupada emphasis they NEVER went to the "subtle heavenly realm on the Moon" called Chandraloka, and he is right!

But they DID go to the same Moon we see at night (the gross Moon) which seems he did not see this aspect back in the 1970s that make the Moon landings possible.

This means the Moon is "subtle and gross" matter, making two Moons in different realities. We cannot see the subtle matter but we CAN see the gross matter.

After all we all see the Moon at night which is the gross aspect of the Moon.

At the time back then in 1969 they did not understand any of this, it is even fair to say Srila Prabhupada seemed to not understand this either.

Srila Prabhupada had said did not know everything about Vedic Cosmology and therefore sent Tamal Krishna Maharaj to Southern India in search of an advanced Brahmana who could teach us the science of Vedic Cosmology and how to properly understand it.

Discussion with that Southern Brahmin is found here-


The fact is they DID go to the Moon but was only to "the gross Moon" did they see and experienced that we also see from earth.

They could not see or enter the "subtle material heavenly atmosphere of Chandraloka" also being Moon.

To be clear, they NEVER went to the "subtle heavenly realm on the Moon called Chandraloka" that we also cannot see, detect or visit in these gross material bodies.

However the Astronauts DID go to the same Moon we see at night but was the "gross Moon" they visited.

This means the Moon we see from Earth MUST be the gross aspect of the Moon otherwise we would not be able to see the Moon at night or day.