And in the last 5 years, China, India, Japan, Russia have all sent rockets to the Moon it is claimed.
China, India and Japan have sent rovers there as well taking 4k clear photos in the last 5 years like the one included at bottom of the page which is the 1969 Apollo 11 site.
To claim all these countries are in on some big hoax just seems impossible.
To believe it is all a hoax would involve hundreds of thousands of people and with organizations like Wikileaks keeping it all some big secret is a ridiculous idea.
And because most Astronauts and scientists are meat eaters or believe in evolution, same sex marriages, homosexuality and abortion, does not make them wrong about going to the moon as the fundamental fanatcs argue.
Devotees get bypass heart surgery and other operations by Doctors who also believe in the same things however, that does not make there surgery on a devotee wrong because of what they believe in?
It's a silly nonsense argument
Intelligent People see that living a sinful life and not believing in God, does not make everything they do wrong.
Many in NASA are Christians too even though their endevour to go in outerspace is a waste of time and money.
It's silly to use the argument that because they believe that life comes from matter or they support abortion as an argument and claim they never went to the Moon.
As said above, what about all the sinful doctors who perform life saving operations on devotees? Is their work also destined to fail?
Of course not.
Another question, why does the Srimad Bhagavatam say the moon is further away from Earth than the sun?
Srimad Bhagavatam 8.10.38, Srila Prabhupada says
"The Sun is supposed to be 93,000,000 miles above the surface of the Earth, and from the SB, we understand that the Moon is 1,600,000 miles above the Sun. Therefore the distance between the Earth and the Moon would be about 95,000,000 miles."
Lets be clear, the purport doesn’t say the moon is bigger or larger than the Sun however, it does in other passages in the Srimad Bhagavatam such as Canto 5 Chapter 24 Text 2, where it is said the Moon is Bigger than the sun.
How?
Dr. Richard L. Thompson (Disciple of Srila Prabhupada and co-author of, famous book “The hidden history of Human Race”) Says:
A: This is another case of an apparent contradiction. Since we have practically no information, we cannot make a definite statement.
But it is possible that the larger sizes of the moon and Rahu may have to do with the higher-dimensional aspects of these planets.
The Sürya-siddhanta gives a diameter of 2,400 miles for the moon. This is close to the modern figure (see Section 1.e).
—An excerpt from Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy.
Also the calculations found in Srimad Bhagavatam of the Moon being further away from Earth than the Sun are based on Vertical measurements from the plain of Bhu Mandala (Earth's Celestial equator) whereas Srila Prabhupada is describing the horizontal distances from Earth across the solar system.
Why it should be related to higher dimensional aspects that Sadaputa claims?
Because the Verse SB 5.24.2 does not talk from the perspective of ordinary humans or 3 dimensional reality.
But, if you read properly the purport of Srimad Bhagavatam 8.10.38, then you can understand that Srila Prabhupada says the moon is ABOVE the Sun.
Q: The Vedic literature says the moon is higher than the sun. How can this be?
Answer by Dr.Richard L. Thompson: In Chapter 22 of the Fifth Canto, the heights of the planets above the earth are given, and it is stated that the moon is 100,000 yojanas (measurement unit) above the rays of the sun.
In this chapter, the word "above" means "above the plane of Bhu-mandala." It does not refer to distance measured radially from the surface of the earth globe.
In Section 4.b we show that if the plane of Bhu-mandala corresponds to the plane of the ecliptic, then it indeed makes sense to say that the moon is higher than the sun relative to Bhu-mandala.
This does not mean that the moon is farther from the earth globe than the sun.
For example, if point A is in a plane, B is 1,000 miles above the plane, and C is 2,000 miles above the plane, we cannot necessarily conclude that C is further from A than B is.
Below are more photos taken in 2015 proving the Apollo landing sites from 1969 to 1972 exist and that the Moon landings were NOT a hoax.
Srila Prabhupada always maintained they never went to the Moon but I believe he really meant the "subtle reality of the Moon".
This technically means there are really "two Moons" one ''subtle'' and one ''gross'' not properly researched by the devotees today as an answer to the Moon controversies and conspiracy theories
In other words the answer could be explained that there are ''two Moons'' in the same space, one we can see and visit in a gross body.
The other we cannot see or enter in a gross body because of its higher dimensional heavenly status.
1 - One realm we see in our gross material body,
2 - The other we do not see in a gross material body because it is a subtle material heavenly realm only attained via the accumulation of pious activity.
This conclusion is reached because the Moon has two realities -
1 - Subtle material reality.
2 - Gross matter material reality.
We in a gross material body cannot see or experience the "subtle matter reality" but we CAN see and experience the "gross matter reality".
This also answers how man could go to the Moon.
Lets look at the facts in 2019 about these old 1970s Moon landing conspiracy theories claiming, even by Srila Prabhupada however, he really meant they could never go to the "subtle reality" of the Moon?
Over 450,000 people worked on the Apollo missions that eventually took man to the Moon in the late 1960s, to keep a secret among all these people that it was all some clever hoax is impossible.
And today in 2019 many Countries are continuously sending spacecrafts to the Moon, it is not only NASA anymore, it is China, India, Japan, Russia, Israel, European Union.
The manned Moon landings between 1969 and 1972 DID happen without any doubt, the evidence is overwhelming!
And if Srila Prabhupada's opinion does NOT convince me the Moon manned landings never happened and was "all bluff", then no one else has any chance of convincing me we never went to the "gross Moon".
Srila Prabhupada always maintained they never went to the Moon but I believe he really meant the "subtle reality of the Moon".
This means there are really two Moons not considered by Prabhupada back in the early 1970s.
The Moon landings therefore were NOT a hoax or some silly Government conspiracy as about 6% of uneducated Americans believe.
What we see in the sky and what the Astronauts visited was the "gross Moon" not the "subtle Moon" that is not seen.
If we see the Moon from earth then that must be the gross reality Moon otherwise we would not be able to see it.
Since 1969, many have said they never went to the Moon, so it was not just Prabhupada saying this.
This was also because very little of this new technology was understood back in the late 1960s and early 1970s even by Prabhupada, and especially by his very young immature disciples, some with university degrees, all in there early 20s back then.
Today in 2019 it is nonsense to continue these conspiracy theories that they never went to the Moon.
As said above, Srila Prabhupada emphasis they NEVER went to the "subtle heavenly realm on the Moon" called Chandraloka, and he is right!
But they DID go to the same Moon we see at night (the gross Moon) which seems he did not see this aspect back in the 1970s that make the Moon landings possible.
This means the Moon is "subtle and gross" matter, making two Moons in different realities. We cannot see the subtle matter but we CAN see the gross matter.
After all we all see the Moon at night which is the gross aspect of the Moon.
At the time back then in 1969 they did not understand any of this, it is even fair to say Srila Prabhupada seemed to not understand this either.
Srila Prabhupada had said did not know everything about Vedic Cosmology and therefore sent Tamal Krishna Maharaj to Southern India in search of an advanced Brahmana who could teach us the science of Vedic Cosmology and how to properly understand it.
Discussion with that Southern Brahmin is found here-
The fact is they DID go to the Moon but was only to "the gross Moon" did they see and experienced that we also see from earth.
They could not see or enter the "subtle material heavenly atmosphere of Chandraloka" also being Moon.
To be clear, they NEVER went to the "subtle heavenly realm on the Moon called Chandraloka" that we also cannot see, detect or visit in these gross material bodies.
However the Astronauts DID go to the same Moon we see at night but was the "gross Moon" they visited.
This means the Moon we see from Earth MUST be the gross aspect of the Moon otherwise we would not be able to see the Moon at night or day.
Srila Prabhupada - ''Dvipas (islands) are planets in outer space'' (CC Madhya 20.218) Islands can ''also'' mean global planets in space.
ReplyDeleteWatch the movie American Moon. It demonstrates conclusively the Apollo missions were hoaxes. It is easy to determine this if you have any knowledge about photography. Get the DVD and watch every movie by the legendary italian filmmaker Massimo Mazzucco. He rocks. His 9/11 doc is the best film on that topic.
ReplyDeleteOver 450,000 people worked on the Apollo missions that eventually took man to the Moon in the 1960s, to keep a secret among all these people is impossible.
ReplyDeleteAnd many Countries are still sending space crafts to the Moon, it is not only NASA anymore, it is China, India, Japan, Russia Israel, European Union.
The manned Moon landings between 1969 and 1972 DID happen without any doubt.
And if Srila Prabhupada's opinion does NOT in no way convience me they never happened and that it was all a hoax, all bluff as he used to say, then no one else has any chance.
The Moon landings were NOT a hoax or some silly Government conspiracy.
Since 1969, many have said they never went to the Moon, so it was not just Prabhupada saying this.
This was because very little of this new technology was understood back in the late 1960s and early 1970s even by Prabhupada, and especially by his very young immature disciples some with university degrees, all in there early 20s back then.
Today in 2019 it is nonsense to continue these conspiracy theories that they never went to the Moon.
As said above, Srila Prabhupada emphasis they NEVER went to the "subtle heavenly realm on the Moon" called Chandraloka, and he is right! But they DID go to the same Moon we see at night (the gross Moon) which seems he not see this back in the 1970s
This means the Moon is "subtle and gross" matter, we cannot see the subtle matter but we CAN see the gross matter.
After all we do see the Moon at night which is the gross aspect of the Moon.
At the time back then in 1969 they did not understand any of this, it is even fair to say Srila Prabhupada seemed to not understand they DID go to the Moon but was only "the gross Moon" they saw and experienced that we also can see from earth.
But it is important to also understand they could not see or enter the "subtle material heavenly atmosphere of Chandraloka" also on the Moon.
The video above is nonsense speculation based on 1970s silly ideas and influenced by flat earth nonsense ideas.
Even Srila Prabhupada's comments back then does NOT convience me it was all a hoax, therefore no nonsense YouTube conspiracy theories will ever convince me.
As said above and to be clear, they NEVER went to the "subtle heavenly realm on the Moon called Chandraloka" but they DID go to the same Moon we see at night which MUST be it's gross aspect known as "gross matter" otherwise we would not see the Moon at night.