The individual jiva-souls (eternal living individual units of anti-matter) are housed within material bodily decaying containers. The individual jiva-souls are not these material bodily vessels they travel in through the material world.
The individual jiva-souls original home and position is in the spiritual world where everything is living as individual units of anti-matter.
However, Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His direct expansions are both an individual Person as a spiritual Bodily Form, and the "all-pervasive" God existing everywhere, which means He is seen as one and everything simultaneously.
This means Krsna, His Visnu-tattva expansions and the individual jiva-souls (all anti-material beings) are not from the temporary decaying material world, the impersonal inactive brahmajyoti, or from the Body of Maha-Visnu, the latter being a direct expansion of Kṛṣṇa who creates the decaying lifeless material world.
All life that enters the decaying material world (dead matter), comes from the spiritual world (living anti-matter).
In the material world, all material bodily vessels and their pathways through past, present and future, house the individual jiva-souls as the passenger. They are not those material bodily vessels.
It is important to understand that the individual jiva-souls (eternal living individual units of anti-matter) original and natural home is the spiritual world (the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana) that are beyond the mundane decaying lifeless material world.
In the material world the individual jiva-souls live as a passenger contained in a temporary material bodily vessel that belongs to Maha-Visnu who dreams the material world. All material bodily containers are "hired" from Him.
In the temporary material world, the individual jiva-souls who chose to leave the spiritual world, must go to Maha-Visnu and "hire" from Him a suitable material bodily vessel and its pathway.
Maha-Visnu dreams His material world, and those individual jiva-souls who choose to enter, receives a material bodily vessel from His dreams that is in sync with their own desires.
All material bodily vessels and their pathways are "hired" to the individual jiva-souls by Maha-Visnu, so they can begin their journey through the temporary material world.
The individual jiva-souls "hire" a material bodily container off Maha-Visnu and became its passenger because they have rejected serving Krsna and Visnu in the spiritual world (The Kingdom of God).
Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord (Maha-Visnu). This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York City).
Krsna's expansion Maha-Visnu creates the material world (decaying matter) including all temporary material bodily vessels and their pathways that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in/on while outside of the spiritual world (living anti-matter) and now living in the material world.
Maha-Visnu’s "Library of unlimited pathways of material bodily vessels" (decaying matter) are what the individual jiva-souls (eternally living individual units of anti-matter) are passengers in/on within the mundane temporary material world.
Also known as the "block material universe" it functions like a "Universal Library" that "houses" unlimited pathways of material bodily vessels that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in while in the material world creation of Maha-Visnu.
All material bodily movements, events, and moments, from the beginning of each material bodies pathway, to its middle and end, already exists at every point along that pathway moving through past, present and future, fixed within the material block universal dream of Maha-Visnu.
The "block material universe" is "all" (everything there is) that exists within Maha-Visnu's dreams of His material world, meaning, as said above, all past, present and future always exist together and are simultaneously occurring at the same time.
This means Maha-Visnu and any individual jiva-soul he allows due to desire and qualification (karma), can see "everything" (past, present and future) from above the movement of material time, just like from above a long roadway, one can see its beginning, middle and end, or one can view again and again the frame by frame of a movie film.
So, who are these material bodily vessels (persons) known as Hitler, Stalin, Churchill etc? Are those material bodily forms the real living persons?
No, they are just a decaying dead material bodily vessels who an individual jiva-soul (living anti-matter) is occupying as the passenger, meaning they are NOT that material bodily vessel (decaying matter) they are in.
The point made here is to clearly understand that the individual jiva-souls (living eternal anti-matter), are not the material bodily decaying vessels (decaying matter) they occupy as its passenger as they move through the pathway's of material bodily vessels in material world.
This is a little complicated to understand, but just like one wears many different suits, similarly the individual jiva-souls, over millions of life times, wears millions of different material bodily vessels like one wears those many suits.
All individual jiva-souls have have worn millions of different material bodily vessels (costumes) based on their desires and karma.
All material bodily vessels in the material world that the visiting individual jiva-souls are in and experience, are achieved by desire and the reactions to their good and bad actions (karma) while confined to a human material bodily form as its passenger.
The none-human lower species of material bodily forms are not subject to karma because they cannot express free will, all lower species of life (8 million) are controlled by the instincts of eating, sleeping, mating and defending.
As explained earlier, all material bodily vessels (matter) are "hired" from the dreams of Maha-Visnu by the visiting individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter)
This also means that an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) have travelled through the movement of eternal time in the material world (past, present and future), have experienced those exact same permanent material bodily pathways made of an array of material bodily vessels (decaying matter) just like each frame on a film canister is always their to watch again and again.
The important point to understand is that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are not the material bodily vessel (decaying matter) they are in as its passenger.
And, as explained above, this so called eternal reoccurrence is not what is really going on in the material world at all, there is no such thing as "eternal reoccurrence" because as explained above, all material bodily pathways are a permanent fixture existing eternally in the already dreamed dreams of Maha-Visnu.
What is really happening is each moment through material time's past, present and future is always there and never fades way just like each frame on a movie film is always there after watching the film.
In this way, the material bodily pathway travelled on by the individual jiva-souls, eternally remains after passing through it, always there for other individual jiva-souls to also travel on as the passenger in a material bodily vessel.
In other words, this permanent pathway of material bodily vessels are always existing for other individual jiva-souls pass to along/through on their journey in the material world.
All "hired" material bodily vessels in Maha-Visnu's dreams always exist as a progressive roadway that the individual jiva-souls journey along/through as its passenger.
The pathway of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls journey in as its passenger, move along the movement of past, present and future confined in a material bodily vessels that is a eternal feature of the material world's space-time.
Lifeless material energy is the eternal fabric of space-time in the material world that also perpetually exists as material bodily vessel pathways (as material bodily vessels) where the individual jiva-souls travel through as the passenger.
In this way as said above, all material bodily vessels (decaying matter) in Maha-Visnu's material world, are a permanent fixture that always exist as a pathway for the individual jiva-souls to travel in as a passenger, moving through past, to present to future, just like the different stages on roadway always remains after one travels on it, or each frame on a movie film can be watched over and over again.
In other words, the individual jiva-souls experience past, present and future as a pathway moving from birth, to youth, to middle age, to old age and death as the passenger on that pathway of material bodily vessel that always exist after being passed through.
This journey through all material pathways that the individual jiva-souls take as a passenger, are continuously occupied by other individual jiva-souls who also choose the same journey of existence in a material bodily vessel along the pathway of past, present and future in the material world.
This is just like driving a vehicle on an already built and established roadway, where one experiencing its beginning, middle and end. However, like all roadways, it always remains as a roadway for others to also drive on it.
Therefore, it only appears that the material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are in as a passenger, are continually reoccurring when in actual fact, that is not what is going as explained above.
As said above, all material bodily vessels or pathways, are an established permanent fixed stream of material bodily vessels moving through/along material time's past, present and future.
The individual jiva-souls move through/along this pathway as a passenger, also known as the block material universe, means the realities of past, present and future all exists simultaneously.
In other words, the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are the passengers on a permanent pathway of material energy made of material bodily vessels (decaying matter) moving along a host of material bodily vessels through the material energies past, present and future, that all continue to always exist as a eternal pathway after the individual jiva-souls pass through them as the passenger.
The moving fabric of unlimited pathways of material bodily containers on a journey through the roadway of material time's past, present and future, is made of dead material energy (decaying matter), travelled in by the individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) as the passenger.
The individual jiva-souls are not the material bodily vessel pathways but rather its living passenger within, who are confined to the material world's fabric of temporary decaying material energy.
All material bodily pathways made up of material bodily vessels, exist eternally in Mahā-Viṣṇu's dreams as roadway's within His material creation for those individual jiva-souls who choose to enter the temporary material world, to enter as the passenger in those material bodily containers.
Everything is temporary in the material world because it is always in a constant state of constant maintenance, decline and decay experienced by the individual jiva-souls confined to a temporary material bodily vessel as its passenger who moves along that pathway of material bodily vessels through past, present and future in the material world.
The movement of past, present and future has the side effect of impermanence, decomposition, birth, youth, disease, old age and death.
In the spiritual world of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vṛndāvana, only the "eternal presence of Krsna" exists, meaning there is no concept of past or future existing like in the material world, therefore in the spiritual world there is no impermanence, decline, decay birth and death there.
This means everything there is eternally fresh and youthful in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the spiritual world) that are the eternal Kingdoms of God.
Temporary material energy makes up all material bodily vessels or containers (matter) that the individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) enters as a passenger (covered by) in the material world.
When these material bodily vessels wears out and decays, they break down into material elements and merges again back into the oneness of lifeless material energy (matter).
Only when the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are no longer covered by a decaying material bodily vessel (decaying matter), know that their real perpetual spiritual bodily form and identity (living anti-matter) never ages, decays dies or takes birth like a mundane material bodily vessel does they are the passenger in.
The individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) eternally remain an individual spiritual person always separate from the mundane material bodily containers they occupy as its passenger.
The individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are covered in the material world by a decaying temporary material bodily vessel that is part of the lifeless material energy.
Unlike the spiritual world's Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana where the "eternal presence" of Krsna eternally exists, where past and future have no meaning, the mundane material world's concept of time is governed by past, present and future, but exists all at the same time to those who can see from above the mundane movement material time that are the dreams of Maha-Visnu that He always knows.
All material bodily vessels (made from decaying material energy) are occupied by the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter), such decaying material bodily vessels are a permanent fixture of the material energies moving along frame by frame on the pathway of past, present and future owned by Maha-Visnu like the frames on a movie film (canister).
Such material vessels originate from Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material universe that are eternally existing with the continuous flow of material bodily vessels moving on the pathway of material time's past, present and future also known as the "block material universe."
All material bodily vessels of all shapes and sizes exist within Maha-Visnu's "Library Of Material Dreams," they and are available for "hire" to those individual jiva-souls who have chosen to visit His material world after choosing to leave the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
The constant movement of travelling through material time's past, present and future in a sequence of material bodily vessels is like watching frame after frame after frame on a movie film. This means there is no repetition or eternal reoccurrence going on in Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world.
The individual jiva-souls in the material world are "housed" in material bodily vessels, experiencing this is like viewing frame after frame on a film that always exist together on the same movie film.
In this way, there is only the constant movement of individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) travelling in material bodily vessels (decaying matter) as passengers on that permanent roadway that eternally exists in Maha-Visnu's dreams for any individual jiva-soul to also travel on/through.
Only by properly understanding the fabric of material time can we see each stage of the journey of past, present and future. In other words, past, present and future eternally exist together, all at the same time. As said above this is what the terminology "block material universe" means.
Srila Prabhupada always encouraged us to have personal realizations and yes, the ones here are thought provoking because they are based on Vedic teachings.
Keep in mind, the "dreams" of Maha-Visnu are almost inconceivable to understand, even when Arjuna viewed past, present and future simultaneously and being able to see everything (past, present and future), he was scared and confused because he was seeing his own future and the future of his family.
The reason he could see his future was because it was already existing like an entire roadway from its beginning, to its middle and at its end.
Each dream of Maha-Visnu is always existing like a pathway that the individual jiva-souls traverse down (as explained above) This means the individual jiva-souls are traveling through a material bodily pathway that is already there, what has always existed.
Another way of understanding this is just like when one rewinds a video tape, the contends captured will always be the same at every stage on the tape.
Similarly, the material bodily vessels we are now in, belongs to Maha-Visnu's material world always and like a library book hired out again and again, also exists for other individual jiva-souls who choose to leave the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, to enter and experience.
This means material time's past, present and future is a permanent fixture eternally recorded as the dreams of Maha-Visnu and always exists as the "block material universe."
This also means we take our next birth in a material bodily vessel that already eternally exists in either a past, present or future time zone, where the individual jiva-soul as the passenger on that material pathway of material bodily vessels moves though the stages of past, present and future, experiencing each moment as the "present" (now), meaning the material bodily birth, childhood, youth, middle age, old age, death the individual jiva-soul is experiencing is due to moving through the pathway of material bodily containers that are part of the material world (decaying matter) unlike the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) who are the passengers.
That further means when we choose a material bodily vessel, the pathway in its different stages of childhood, youth, middle age, old age etc of that material body, already exists in its different time zones (past, present and future) because each material body's pathway is a permanent fixture of this material universe known as the maha-tattva manifestation (material creation) of Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world (also known as the block material universe)
The individual jiva-souls have their own full expression of individual self based on free will, having a strong sense of an independent self where they eternally make their own decisions and choices that Krsna allows to create diversity and a two-sided relationship of loving voluntary exchanges without any dictatorial forceful manipulation from Krsna, or Maha-Visnu.
The latter (Maha-Visnu) creates the material bodily pathways for the individual jiva-souls to travel on/in while in His material world.
What we are learning here, is the 'dreams' of Maha-Visnu are all happening eternally in the "present - at the same time" which means past, present and future all exist simultaneously that allows the individual jiva-souls "housed as the passenger" in those material bodily vessels, to move along those material bodily pathways as they move through material time's, past, present and future.
The dreams of Maha-Visnu, that include material bodily vessel pathways made of matter that house the individual jiva-souls as the passenger, are an eternal fixture of the material world within Maha-Visnu's dreams when seen above the restriction or movement of material time's past, present and future.
However, due to all material bodily vessels moving through time's past, present and future, each material bodily vessel the individual jiva-souls are contained in as the passenger, experience the continuous decaying side of the material world due to the divisions of material mundane time's past, present and future.
This does not exist in the spiritual world where only the eternal presence of Krsna only exists meaning everything there is ever fresh, youthful and never decays.
The material energy (dead matter without the presents of life, the individual jiva-soul) in the material world is "all-one" lifeless matter that also manifests as a material bodily vessel that houses the individual jiva-souls as a passenger.
The individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are not from or part of the decaying material world, they are individual persons whose real home and origin is the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
This is important to understand as there are many nonsense impersonalists (mayavadis) who believe there is an "all-one" pervasive life force behind everything. They foolishly believe that when a material bodily vessel dies, the life force within that material bodily vessel, merges back into the "one life force" just like when air is released from a container, it merges back into the oneness of the air around us.
This nonsense philosophy is called mayavadi impersonalism, this idea is wrong and dangerous and to a Vaisnava devotee of Kṛṣṇa, is committing spiritual suicide for those who follow or even hear such dangerous mayavadi teachings.
So, to be clear, in the material world everything in under the movement of Maha-Visnu's dreaming of material time's past, present and future, where each material bodily vessel's pathway is a long winding roadway moving through the material world.
This means the pathway or roadway of the material bodily vessels, both gross or subtle, that the individual jiva-souls are housed in as the passenger, is like a roadway eternally from Maha-Visnu's dreams.
This means there are unlimited pathways already carved out, based on desire and karma for the individual jiva-souls to be passengers in, on their journey through Maha-Visnu's decaying material world.
In other words, one who worships the rich and famous can take birth in those material bodily vessels they admire as the passenger, after being trained up and qualified to take that birth, which can take many, many, many births just to have the qualifications to be in that famous "material bodily vessel" as the passenger for one insignificant life time, such as Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Elvis Presley, Bill Gates etc.
What an ignorant selfish waste of time compared to just choosing to return home back to Godhead and be in either the Vaikuntha planets, or Goloka-Vrindavan, which are the individual jiva-soul's real spiritual home and original position.
If those individual jiva-souls housed in a decaying material bodily container, knew what they had to go through to attain that famous wealthy materialistic bodily vessel they have desired, they would have second thoughts about seeking material fame and wealth on this mundane planet and within the material heavenly planets too.
All material bodily vessels in the material creation must be deserved first, allowing the individual jiva-souls who are qualified to enter and experience that temporary existence in the material world.
Also, it is known that usually the most pious individual jiva-soul in each material universe (Brahmanda) takes up the "post" of Lord Brahma when the next Brahmanda material universe manifests from the breathing and pours of the sleeping Maha-Visnu.
In the same way; we are all awarded with a material bodily vessel according to our past pious and impious activities too, known as karmic reactions.
All individual jiva-souls "housed" in a material bodily vessel, are contained in material energies fabric of space-time, moving through the material stages of past, present and future, within the pathway of each material bodily vessel they are in as the passenger.
However, seeing from above the movement of material time's past, present and future, just like seeing the entire journey of a roadway from above, one can see the entire journey of the material bodily vessel they are a passenger in, its beginning, middle and end, all at once. This is also known as Mahā-Viṣṇu's block material universe.
This means "materially" one can see all past, present and future existing together simultaneously, seeing every twist and turn on the pathway of material time.
The explanation in the above essay is correctly explaining that all material bodily vessels within Maha-Visnu's dreams that the individual jiva-souls arepassengers in, are a "permanent" fixture of material bodily pathways (real but temporary) that eternally exist within the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
As said above, this may give the impression of eternal repetition but no, the material universe is in a constant state that is above the movement of past, present and future that the jiva-souls only experience by moving or flowing through the material energy existence of the fabric of past, present and future.
In other words, moving along material time's pathway of twists and turns, is how the individual jiva-soul experience the material bodily container they are housed in, birth, childhood, youth, middle age, old age and death.
This birth, youth, middle age and death does not eternally repeat itself, what is really going on is each material bodily pathway is a permanent fixture of the material world, the time's past, present and future are continuously existing where the individual jiva-souls simply passing through/along as the passenger on/in that material bodily vessel's pathway.
In other words, what is seen from above, the entire roadway from its beginning, middle and end, is experiencing the movement of material time's past, present and future which are Maha-Visnu's dreams and all exist simultaneously as the block universe.
Therefore, the dreams of Maha-Visnu are the material bodily vessel's pathways made of material bodies (decaying matter) where the individual jiva-souls as its passenger, travel through the fabric of material energy's space-time's past, present and future.
These bodily vessel pathways are always available for "hire" to those individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) who choose to enter Maha-Visnu's material world after leaving the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
Within Maha-Visnu's dreams, all past, present and future exist simultaneously that even some very rare devotees of Krsna and yogis can also see.
So, there is a constant movement of the individual jiva-souls, who are "housed" in a material bodily vessel's pathway, travelling through material time's past, present and future along that permanent pathway made of material bodily vessels, like a roadway's beginning, middle and end, through birth, disease, old age and death.
This pathway or roadway is always available for others individual jiva-souls to travel through/along, which is permanent fixture of within the material energy coming from Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material world, and experienced by those individual jiva-souls who "hire" a material bodily vessel's pathway to be the passenger in.
Modern science cannot understand the material universe in this way where time travel is always possible but only in this way explained above known as Mahā-Viṣṇu's the block material universe.
Everything in the material world is dead matter and a permanent fixture of Maha-Visnu's dreaming. No individual life comes from the material world (dead matter).
The individual jiva-souls (living individual units of anti-matter) can only enter the material world from the spiritual world known as the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and then pass through the material world's array of material bodily vessel's pathways as a passenger.
The "roadways or pathways" of time's "past, present and future" never disappear as explained above, they always exist as a permanent fixture within the fabric of the material world (decaying matter) that the visiting individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) can travel through in.
The material bodily vessel's pathways that the individual jiva-souls are in/on as the passenger, are always the property of Maha-Visnu's dreams that are "hired" out to those individual jiva-soul who choose to leave the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets of Visnu/Narayana, or Krsna's central Abode of Goloka-Vrindavana. Such material bodily pathways always remain Maha-Visnu's property existing as His dreams of the material world.
Each material bodily vessel's pathway is continuously available for other individual jiva-souls to also travel through/on, to experience their desires separate from Krsna's spiritual world.
Experiencing any desire without Kṛṣṇa, can only be achieved in the temporary material world within the dreaming creations of Maha-Visnu.
In Maha-Visnu's dreams of the material world, every scenario conceivable is possible and exists for "hire" to any visiting individual jiva-soul who falls from the spiritual world and foolishly enters Maha-Visnu's material world and seek out their selfish desires to be powerful, rich and famous without Kṛṣṇa.
Hiring "material dreams" off Maha-Visnu are similar to visiting a "costume shop" that is full of different costumes (material bodily pathways) that the individual jiva-soul can choose to enter/travel/on/in.
Every individual jiva-soul who enters the material world must go to Maha-Visnu's "Costume Shop" (Dress Shop) to attain a suitable material bodily vessel and its pathway from the dreams of the sleeping Maha-Visnu.
The individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter Maha-Visnu's material world after falling from the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, must choose a material bodily vessel they "hire" in their attempt to enjoy separate from Krsna in the temporary material world.
This is where the individual jiva-souls are offered a particular material bodily vessel by Maha-Visnu according to their material desires, so they can enter into the material world with a suitable material body that is in accordance and in sync with their own material desires.
Maha-Visnu always owns all such material vessels that are part and parcel of His material creation that He has dreamed.
Therefore, those who have chosen to enter the material creation, must go to Maha-Visnu's "Library Of dreams" and choose a material bodily vessel from His unlimited dreams of all material affairs.
Everything conceivable material bodily vessel or container exists in Maha-Visnu's dreams, every scenario is possible as said above, no matter how strange or bizarre it is, all realities already exists in the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
This means all that there is and all that there will be, every combination of material existence possible, already exists as His dreams.
It is the lifeless material bodily vessels (coming from Maha-Visnu's dreams) that the individual jiva-souls (life) within the billions of Brahmanda material universes coming from Maha-Visnu, enter those material bodily vessels as a passenger. The individual jiva-souls chooses a material bodily vessel and its pathway through the material world, just like one chooses from a variety of costumes in a fancy dress store wher each costume represents a particular pastime.
For the eternal associates of Krsna like Arjuna, there is a different set of rules.
The fact is, Arjuna is always with Krsna in innumerable different material universes (Brahmandas) at one time always as his spiritual form, meaning there is only one individual jiva-soul who is Arjuna.
In other words, no other individual jiva-soul can ever become Arjuna because his bodily form is not material meaning it is not a vessel, the body of Arjuna is Arjuna, is him because he is spiritual.
Although the individual jiva-soul who surrenders to Krsna, and some advanced yogis, can expand or project their consciousness into eight different material bodily vessels at the same time and still be just the "one individual jiva-soul" in all those material bodily forms.
Advanced yogis can do this but is also limited to eight expansions however, for Krsna's eternal associate like Arjuna, he is beyond such rules, he can be in many, many millions universes simultaneously, where ever Krsna is.
Yes, this is very true as sastra (scripture) tells us but very rare to understand especially in this degraded age of Kali-yuga.
The fact is, the individual jiva-soul who is the spiritual bodily form of Arjuna, is always the same individual jiva-soul in all the different material universes (Brahmandas) according to Srila Prabhupada. As said above, no other individual jiva-soul can ever become Arjuna, and this further applies to every individual jiva-soul in the spiritual world.
The material world is different because there the individual jiva-souls are covered by a material bodily vessel they are the passenger in, this is not so in the spiritual world where matter (and all material bodily vessels or containers) do not exist.
It is not like that in the spiritual world because there is no difference between the self and the spiritual body. This means material bodily vessels do not exist in the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God)
The "one" individual jiva-soul (referring to Arjuna) can expand himself as many different Arjunas who in unlimited pastimes with Krsna in the temporary material world.
This means no one can become Arjuna because his position is not like Brahmas, the individual jiva-soul of Arjuna is always the the one individual Arjuna no matter where he is with Krsna.
Such a position like Arjuna as Krsna's eternal servant, is very rare.
As said above, a yogi can also project his consciousness and be in 8 different material bodies all at one time. But this is not the case with every material bodily vessel in the material creation. Only some rare individual jiva-souls can possess more than one material bodily vessels at once.
This is not the case with the billions of different Lord Brahmas who are each in their material universe that is deep within the greater Brahmanda universal shell surrounding their inner secondary material universe.
In each case, the material bodily vessel of Lord Brahma is occupied by a different individual jiva-soul as its passenger.
So as said above, in every material bodily vessel of Lord Brahma, there is a different individual jiva-soul every time Maha-Visnu creates all the billions of Brahmanda universes in the material world.
All the different Brahmas are not the same "individual jiva-souls," there are billions of different individual jiva-souls who can become a Brahma in all the different material secondary universes that are deep inside each Brahmanda material universe that comes from the Body of Maha-Visnu.
There are those who believe the material universe is continuously repeating itself each time Maha-Visnu creates the material Brahmanda universes, but that is not true. The fact is every "material bodily vessel's pathway" that is, and can be, already eternally exists within the dreams of Maha-Visnu that the individual jiva-souls can "hire" and become a passenger in.
The individual jiva-souls "hires" a material bodily vessel's pathway off Maha-Visnu which is a permanent roadway or pathway that many individual jiva-souls can be housed in and travel through/on as a passenger.
This means the material universe, including all material bodily vessels and their pathways, are continuously existing with an endless flow of individual jiva-souls possessing those "material bodily vessel's pathway," passing through them like one passes over a roadway.
Therefore it only seems the material universe is repeating itself when in actual fact it is a complete block, like travelling through an already made roadway that remains there after travelling through it.
Therefore, each material bodily vessel or container and its pathway in the material world, eternally exists within the material dreams of Maha-Visnu, that are "hired" by all visiting individual jiva-souls who has matching desires that are in sync with Maha-Visnu's dreams.
The dreams of Maha-Visnu gives the visiting individual jiva-souls the facilities to fulfill their desires in the material world.
The fact is such dreams of material bodies and their pathways the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, are a permanent "fixture" or roadway that always exists within the dreams of Maha-Visnu. The visiting individual jiva-souls can travel within those dreams a passenger housed in a material bodily vessel, and experience their own desires while in the mundane temporary material world.
Remember, all these material bodily containers (decaying matter) and their pathways through the material world, are the creation coming from the dreams of Maha-Visnu. In this way, all facilities in the material world come from Maha-Visnu's dreams.
The individual jiva-souls, by their desires, move through the journey of material existence in a material bodily vessel through the pathway of birth, youth, middle age, disease, old age and death and then again rebirth if one fails to get out of this temporary material mundane world of repeated birth and death.
Being in a material bodily vessel or container as its passenger, is simultaneously being on the pathway or road that leads to one's destination based on their desires.
All "pathways" (the journey of material bodily vessels) from the dreams of Maha-Visnu that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, have always existed as part and parcel of the fabric of material space-time that many other visiting individual jiva-souls have/can also experience and move through.
In other words, there is always a flow of individual jiva-souls experiencing the road journey of material bodily containers or vessels coming from the dreams of Maha Visnu.
This is what is really happening in the material world instead of the nonsense eternal repetition or reoccurrence speculation.
Each point along the roadway of material bodily vessels is eternally there as permanent fixture of the material world's "bodily pathways" that the individual jiva-souls are housed in as the passenger and passes through experiencing linear time in the material world.
All pathways through material time's past, present and future, are made of material bodily vessels (from the dreams of Maha-Visnu's), that confine and cover the individual jiva-souls with the fabric of material energy in the form of those material bodily vessel, that move through space-time's past, present and future carrying the individual jiva-souls as the passenger experiencing the effect of birth, youth, disease, old age, and death.
This roadway or pathway of material bodily vessels, is known as linear time, which is the movement forward through past, present and future.
But from outside or above that linear time, rare individual jiva-souls can see the entire roadway, from its beginning middle and end, seen all at once. They can see the movement of past, present and future all exist simultaneously, like seeing from above the view of an entire roadway from its beginning to its end.
The movement of material bodily vessels within the material world explained above, may seem to be repeating themself over and over again however, as said above, that is not what's going on in Maha-Visnu's dreams as explained above.
The "block material universe" understanding is where all material bodies (dead matter) always exist as a permanent fixture in matter that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) moves through as the passenger. This means the past, present and future always exist as a fabric of material energy (dead matter) that the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) pass through on their journey through the material world.
The material bodily vessels (decaying matter) are occupied by the individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) as the passengers, who move through and along the material pathway of material bodily vessels that move through past, present and future.
The material universes (Brahmandas) are constantly being annihilated, and again created by Maha-Visnu, but as explained above, that is only seen from the movement of "linear time." However, when seeing everything beyond linear time, one can see all past, present and future simultaneously in the material world above constant material annihilation only seen in linear time.
This is the "block material universe" creation of Maha-Visnu where past, present and future are always exiting that the individual jiva-souls pass through, just like travelling through a roadway's beginning, middle and end.
Only the linear time movement of past, present and future does one see the temporary nature of material energy and view of material world and its constant annihilation.
Therefore, what is constantly unfolding through the fabric of material energy and time, are permanent pathways of material bodily vessels moving through past, present and future.
All this is coming from Maha-Visnu's dreams that are a permanent fixture that the individual jiva-souls are passengers in, who enter and pass along and through material time's past, present and future.
The fact is, all material bodily vessels and their pathways are the material dreams of Maha-Visnu that are "hired" to individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter the material world.
All material bodily vessels have no life until they are occupied by individual jiva-souls with one being the prominent one.
All material bodily vessels and their pathways are a permanent fixture or post in the material world originating from the permanent dreams from Maha-Visnu.
The visiting individual jiva-souls move through material vessels along the pathway of past, present and future, just like one moves along a roadway that always remains there after passing on/through it, that other individual jiva-souls can also travel on/through these same pathways of material bodily vessels the individual jiva-souls are housed in as the passengers.
Another way of looking at this is just like in society there exists fancy dress shops where one can go and hire out costumes and experience a particular pastime (material reality) the costume represents.
Similarly, in the temporary material world every material bodily vessel and its pathway conceivable, exists within Maha-Visnu's "fancy dress shop of material costumes" (His dreams) that a visiting individual jiva-soul from the spiritual world can "hire" from Maha-Visnu if they choose to enter His material world.
All such material realities, pathways, bodily vessels, all come from Maha-Visnu's dreams and are available to all visiting individual jiva-souls who choose to enter the material world.
There is a constant flow of individual jiva-souls entering those permanent fixed pathways in the material world made of material bodily vessels or costumes that cover the individual jiva-souls who are the passenger in them. In this way, the individual jiva-souls wears/and passes through these "material bodily vessel's pathway" in what is known as Maha-Visnu's "block material universe."
In other words, just like the costumes in a "fancy dress rental shop" are "hired" by the shop owner, similarly all the variety of material bodily vessel's pathways existing in the material world are "hired-out" by Maha-Visnu.
All material bodily vessel's pathways in the material world are provided to all individual jiva-souls who choose to enter the material world by Maha-Visnu that come from His dreams of the material world.
Therefore, each "material bodily" costume or vessel the individual jiva-souls are housed in as a passenger, is a permanent position or fixture situated in the fabric of material energy coming from Maha-Visnu's dreams, that moves through the material world's time of past, present and future.
Maha-Visnu provides all material bodily vessel's pathways for the individual jiva-souls to be a passengers in, where they experience birth, youth, disease, old age and death, housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel that moves through linear time's, past, present and future.
All material bodily vessels are costumes that always remain the property of Maha-Visnu's dreams. They are "hire out" by Him to all visiting individual jiva-souls to be a passenger in, who choose to enter Maha-Visnu's temporary material world (decaying matter) after leaving the spiritual world (living anti-matter) of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vṛndāvana (the Kingdom of God)
All "lifeless material bodily vessels" the individual jiva-souls are only passengers in, always remain the property of Maha-Visnu, whereas the living individual jiva-souls who are the passengers are from the spiritual world and not from Maha-Visnu's temporary material world.
Life does not originate from the lifeless material world, the individual jiva-souls (life) only enters the temporary material world after leaving the spiritual world which is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) as said above.
The cycle of decay and renewal, birth and death in this temporary material existence continues on eternally in linear time, with a continuous flow of visiting individual jiva-souls experiencing each material bodily pathway within the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
There is always "free will" in the spiritual world because without free will the individual jiva-souls (devotees) would not be able to voluntarily participate, cooperate and contribute to their relationship with Krsna. Without these qualities above the individual jiva-souls are no better than dead lifeless.
As said above, all material bodily vessel's pathways are a permanent fixture that are continuously moving through material time carrying the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) in material bodily containers (decaying matter) as the passenger, moving through past, present and future on their endless journey through the temporary material world.
The material bodily vessel's pathway carrying the individual jiva-souls, remains the same, fixed in the fabric of material energies space-time. All material bodily vessel's pathways are a "hired" dream coming from Maha-Visnu, where the embodied individual jiva-souls housed in them as the passenger, experience their journey from birth, childhood, disease, old age and death through that pathway made of material bodily vessels.
The individual jiva-souls, who are confined to a material bodily vessel as its passenger while in the material world, travel through a permanent pathway of material body containers as explained above, moving through past, present and future.
However, because the pathway of material bodily vessels always exists, it means there is a constant flow of other individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) who also enter that same permanent pathway made of material bodily vessels as a new passenger on that permanent pathway, who have fallen from the spiritual world and also "hired" those material bodily vessels as a new passenger and traveller. All material bodily vessels and their pathways are "hired" from the dreaming Maha-Visnu who owns them all.
As explained above, this is also called the "block material universe" which means the material world created by Maha-Visnu's dreams, are always exactly the same and covers every possible outcome, scenario and combination of material energy that fulfils every desire the fallen visiting individual jiva-souls have.
All the journeys through the temporary decaying material world by the individual jiva-souls (living anti-matter) are housed in an array of material bodily pathways made of material bodily vessels (decaying matter) that are a permanent roadway within material energy.
Such pathways of material bodily vessel's pathways, are constantly being occupied by a progression of individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter Maha-Visnu's temporary mundane material world, by leaving the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and then traveling on/through a chosen material bodily pathway made of material bodily vessels, caring the individual jiva-souls as a passenger through material time's "past, present and future," on their journey through the temporary material world.
In the temporary decaying material world, the individual jiva-souls as passengers in a material bodily vessel, choose a pathway made of material bodily vessels (decaying matter) that carry them through material time's past, present and future. These pathways of material bodily vessels eternally exists as the permanent fixture in the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
Within each material bodily vessel (decaying matter) exists many individual jiva-souls (actively living anti-matter) with one being the prominent one as the main passenger.
Each individual jiva-soul as that passenger, play the same part in themat material bodily vessel's pathway that other individual jiva-souls before it have experienced, travelling through the fabric of material time's past, present and future on/in a pathway of material bodily vessels housed as the passenger.
The individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) are passengers within a moving array of material bodily vessels (decaying matter) on their journey through material time's past, present and future.
As said above, this pathway through time of material bodily vessels, are a permanent fixture of the fabric of material time within Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material world known as the block material universe.
The individual jiva-souls are always a passenger moving through the roadway of past, present and future on and within a material bodily vessel's pathway.
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In this way, the material bodily vessels are a fixed flowing fabric of the material world's past, present and future, just like the frames on a movie are always part of the movie reel.
Just like the frames on a movie reel always exist, so does past, present and future always exist in the material world that the individual jiva-souls travel through/on as a passenger. In this way, everything that happens within the material world exists for as long as the material world exists.
In other words past, present and future, like the beginning, middle and end of a roadway, are eternally existing just like when one sees a roadway from above, they see its beginning, middle and end simultaneously.
However, remember that the living anti-matter individual jiva-souls are not the material bodily vessels (dead matter) they are in as a passenger.
The material bodily vessel is a garment that covers the individual jiva-souls, who are the passenger in that outer garment or material body.
One's relationship with Visnu or Krsna is never impersonal, nor do the individual jiva-souls originate from some nonsense impersonal inactive beginning point in the impersonal brahmajyoti (Krsna's Bodily effulgence)
The word "tatastha-sakti" refers to the marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) position of having the choice to remain in the spiritual world, or enter to the temporary material world.
The terminology "marginal living entities" (who are the eternal individual jiva-souls) known as tatastha-sakti, is not a place, it is a description of a eternal unique collective of separated individual jiva-souls (meaning they eternally have the free will to choose for themselves that Krsna allows) who were never created, nor will they ever be destroyed.
So, "marginal" or tatastha-sakti means a collective of eternal individual jiva-souls who are beginningless and endless originating from the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, which are their natural home.
It is due to free will which means the choice to voluntarily participate and contribute in Krsna's pastimes in the way they choose, making the relationship with Krsna a two-way cooperative exchange.
This also allows the individual jiva-souls to choose to stay in the spiritual world, or enter the mundane material world and forget Krsna, which is also included in the meaning of being a "marginal living entity."
So, the individual jiva-souls being marginal living entities (tatastha-sakti) also means the individual jiva-souls are on the fence (not literally), meaning they can choose to remain in the spiritual world, or enter the mundane material world,
As said above, being marginal refers to the individual jiva-souls expressing their free-will the way they choose and having the choice to live in the spiritual world, or the material world.
So clearly the individual jiva-souls can always choose to remain in their natural original home and position in the spiritual world, or can enter the material world and become a passenger in a temporary material bodily vessel or container. With out such choices in a two-way cooperative exchange, free will has no meaning and only makes us mindless loveless puppets in Gods impersonal one-sided dictatorial creation.
So lets be very clear, the "marginal position" is not a place, it means the individual jiva-souls are sitting on the fence (not literally) and can enter either side, remain in the spiritual world which is their natural home, or enter the temporary mundane material world which in never their home.
Those individual jiva-souls who have made the choice to leave the spiritual world and enter the temporary decomposing material creation, can later, due to the frustration of material life's painful cycle of repeated birth and death, enter an inactive dormant state known as the Brahmajyoti (the impersonal inactive aspect of Brahman) which is Krsna's Bodily effulgence.
The marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) are known in both the material creation and the impersonal Brahmajyoti as tatastha sakti, but not in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana Prabhupada has explained.
The potential of being "marginal" is possible in the spiritual world due to free will however, time there is different from the mundane material world's past, present and future, there in the spiritual world time is known as "the eternal presence of Krsna," this means the individual jiva-souls in the spiritual world are not "marginal" as long as they are in that realm of the "eternal presence of Krsna."
Srila Prabhupada - "So this temporary material world is the taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the permanent (personal) spiritual characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics and enter the permanent (personal) characteristics. That is called spiritual elevation." (Lecture CC, Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York City, Dec 28, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā to the material world, it is called taṭastha śakti." (Lecture BG, Ch 7 Text 4-5 Bombay, March 30, 1971)
Maya or the temporary material energy does not exist in the spiritual world however, free will eternally exists there and allows the individual jiva-souls to make their own decisions that includes voluntary offerings and contributions while serving Krsna, or even reject Krsna if they choose.
Srimad Bhagavatam explains the fall down of the marginal living entity (individual jiva-souls) from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana to the material world, in the 4th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, Chapter 28 text 53, where the Supreme Lord is disguised as a brahmana.
The brāhmaṇa said - "My dear friend, even though you cannot immediately recognize Me, can't you remember that in the past you had a very intimate friend? Unfortunately, you gave up My company and accepted a position as enjoyer of this material world." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 28 text 53)
Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the individual jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, they are considered still fallen, so does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen individual jiva-souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm an individual jīva-soul and if I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."
Revatīnandana dasa - "That means all individual jīva-souls there in the impersonal brahmajyoti are also fallen souls?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes." (Room Conversation Aug 17, 1971, London)
Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness, those who are in the brahman effulgence (being inactive) are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition." (Letter to: Revatinandana dasa, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970).
The individual jiva-souls original position means they have the same bodily features like Krsna, sat-cit-ananda-vigraha (eternity, knowledge, bliss and form.
The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) is a two arm form like Krsna's Form in Vṛndāvana in the spiritual world.
Devotee – “Is the original body of the individual jiva soul a human form?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible, is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri dasa – “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”
Srila Prabhupada – [describing material form first]: "Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible but you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants means they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation, the human form is the full manifestation of the individual jiva-soul as a spiritual form."
Hari-sauri dasa - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”
Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world, there that is always voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily, and can change from flower to human body. That is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, as a flagpole, as a chariot, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
The marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) are a collective of an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls who are eternal, this means they have always existed like Krsna and therefore never created.
As said above, the individual jiva-souls are called tatastha-sakti or marginal because they can remain in their natural position and original home in the spiritual world, or can choose to enter the temporary material world where they become covered by temporary material bodily vessels. Or can fall even further and become artificially dormant (inactive) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti.
Srila Prabhupada - "So we are called taṭastha which is another word for marginal. Marginal means the individual jiva-souls can remain either way, they can be in the spiritual world, or the material world. Either on God's side or māyā's side. That is my choice. So when we don't want to serve God, then we are sent to the māyā, to serve māyā. Māyā means his position as servant remains the same, but he thinks "I am master." That is māyā. He is Just like a child trying to do something father does not like. But when he cries, he's given that. "All right. Do this." But "All right, do this" or "Do that," he is under the father. He is under the control of the father. But when he is given such chance, "Oh, I am independent now. I am independent." So this is called māyā. He's never independent, but he thinks, "I am independent." (Philosophy Discussion on The Evolutionists Thomas Huxley, Henri Bergson, and Samuel Alexander)
Srila Prabhupada - "Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we (individual jiva-soul) are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)
The individual jiva-souls were never created from any origin (having a starting point) because there is no origin of the individual jiva-souls, they have always existed like Krsna has without a beginning or an end.
Having "free will" is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls), and is always part and parcel of their eternal character and personality within the spiritual world.
The marginal living entity (tatastha-sakti) refers to the individual jiva-souls as "free thinking" individuals sitting on the fence or "border-line" (not literally) meaning they can choose to remain in the spiritual world, or enter the temporary material world.
However, the individual jiva-souls are not literally sitting on some fence as their original position, no, it refers to their ability to express their free-will in the way they voluntary choose. As said above, tatastha-sakti (the marginal platform of the individual jiva-souls) is not a place, it means they have the ability to choose "this side or that side," to remain in the spiritual world, or enter the material world and become housed as a passenger in a material bodily vessel.
Tatastha-sakti (marginal living entity) means the individual jiva-souls can choose either side, remain in the spiritual world (living anti-matter), or enter the temporary material world (decaying matter)
To be clear, this means the saying that the individual jiva-souls are "sitting on the fence," means they always have a choice, to remain in their original position and natural home in the spiritual world, or can enter the temporary material world of repeated birth and death where they are confined (housed) as a passenger in a temporary material bodily vessel created in Maha-Visnu's dreams and "hired" from Him.
This means the individual jiva-souls can always choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God) at any time, this is what free will allows, and if they didn't have free will, then the individual jiva-souls would be like dead stone, unable to express their unique personality by offering their own unique contributions by voluntarily participating and cooperating in a loving two-way exchange, only the can loving exchanges exist.
Srila Prabhupada – "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover, He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back, that is Kṛṣṇa's attempt - "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes).
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
The paradox here is the individual jiva-souls have their own independence and free will too, even though Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, cause of all causes who knows everything, and is behind everything, and therefore simultaneously one and different from His creation of the living entities and the spiritual and material worlds.
In other words, each individual jiva-soul (devotee) has their own unique personality and character that is seemly always paradoxically separate from Krsna's Personality and absolute control, although we must never forget that Krsna is the cause of all causes behind everything and not a blade of grass can move without His sanction.
Krsna allows it to be be this way to create diversities within His own creation, where a "two-sided" cooperative or non-cooperative relationship exists between the individual jiva-souls (the eternal servant in their natural position) and Krsna (the creator).
Krsna never tells His devotees how to think, act or what to offer, He encourages them to voluntary choose their own offerings, He only advices them so the correct standard is understood.
Krsna prefers His devotees to choose for themselves how to serve Him Srila Prabhupada has explained to us.
Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily. And one can change their spiritual bodily form, from flower to human bodily form, that is spiritual life. There is no restriction, if a devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, they serve Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, as field, as a flagpole, as chair, as a chariot, as a pathway, as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything is possible, it is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
It is foolish and sad that some big Vedic scholars and Gurus claim once entering the spiritual world, the individual jiva-souls can never again fall down to the material world, which is nonsense, influenced by impersonalism because it denies the individual choice (free will) to participate or not in Krsna's pastimes.
No, the individual jiva-souls (devotees) can fall down again and again if they choose because that is what having "free will" allows. And such fall downs have nothing to do with Maya (the influence of material energy), it is simply the expression of free will.
The fact is, Maya or material energy (decaying matter) does not exist in the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), it only exists in Maha-Visnu's dreams of the temporary material world where no individual life (living anti-matter) exists but only enters there then becomes a passenger in material bodily vessel's pathway (decaying matter).
In fact no individual life (the individual jiva-souls) comes from the material world, all life, beginning with Mahā-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu) and His expansions Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu (Hiraņyagarbha) and Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu (Paramātmā) are ultimately an expansion of Lord Balarama, all come from Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, whose original home is Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual world beyond the lifeless mundane material world created by His expansion Maha-Visnu.
All other life (the individual jiva-souls or marginal living entities) enters the dead material world only after voluntarily leaving the spiritual world of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God).
Technically, the material energy, material atoms that appear to be dead, are actually "dormant" almost seemingly dead (meaning they are inactive individual jiva-souls) eternally accompanied with Visnu in the form of Paramatma (Supersoul) like all active individual jiva-souls housed in material bodily vessels are too.
In other words, Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu as Paramātmā (God/Krsna), and the "inactive or dormant" individual jiva-souls both exist together in the material atom (decaying matter) in the material world where the individual jiva-souls remain "inactive" (considered almost dead), and Paramātmā (God/Krsna) as the always active witness. This is how Krsna is simultaneously an individual Person, and "all-one" with both His material and spiritual creations.
The choice to leave the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows love to be a "two-way" street, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose to do so because they are not forced to love or serve Krsna. All relationships with Krsna are therefore voluntary.
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."
Hayagriva dasa - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."
Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will, he chooses to misuse his free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad but still he does it, that is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Because one misuses their free will, unless there is the possibility to misuse one's free will, then there is no question of having free will." (from: Discussions on Rene Descartes philosophy)
Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence (free will), proportionately, therefore if you likes you can enter the temporary material world if you choose, that independence (free will) has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that." (Based on conversation at Mayapur, West Bengal India Feb 19, 1976)**/////**
