Monday, June 23, 2025

No, no, this world will NOT be destroyed by nuclear weapons, climate change or pandemics whether we understand it or not (not over the next 10,000 years at least).

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has come to this very, very rare Kali-yuga to establish His Golden Age of the great Sankirtan Movement.

This WILL happen!

We are presently only in the very early pioneering years of the great Sankirtan Movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu (just 58 years ago did Srila Prabhupada establish ISKCON in 1966)

Lord Caitanya comes only once in a day of Brahma to one Kali-yuga out of 1000, as part of the 4 yuga's that make up a Maha-yuga that are-

Satya-yuga

Treta-yuga

Dvarpara-yuga

Kali-yuga.

All occur only between sunrise and sunset (there are no Maha-yugas during Brahma's night) 

So, both Brahma's "day-time," when the 1000 Maha-yugas happen, and Brahmas "night-time," where there are no Maha-yugas, together equals 8 billion 640 million years according to Caitanya Caritamrita CC Adi 3.10, Purport.




















Krsna is everything and nothing exists outside of Him because there is nothing outside of Krsna, He is everything there is, within and without.

Everything there is, known or unknown, within or without, dreamed and not yet dreamed, exists in Krsna.

Krsna is the ultimate source and sustainer of all creation, encompassing both the manifested universe and whatever existence that is not yet manifest or realized. 

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed."(BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament."  (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?"(BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the Vedas – in the Kaṭha Upaniṣad as well as in the Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad – it is said that the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the maintainer of innumerable living entities, in terms of their different situations according to individual work and reaction of work. That Supreme Personality of Godhead is also, by His plenary portions, alive in the heart of every living entity. 

Only saintly persons who can see, within and without, the same Supreme Lord can actually attain to perfect and eternal peace.

nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām
eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān
tam ātma-sthaṁ ye ’nupaśyanti dhīrās
teṣāṁ śāntiḥ śāśvatī netareṣām
(Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13)

The same Vedic truth given to Arjuna is given to all persons in the world who pose themselves as very learned but factually have but a poor fund of knowledge. The Lord says clearly that He Himself, Arjuna and all the kings who are assembled on the battlefield are eternally individual beings and that the Lord is eternally the maintainer of the individual living entities both in their conditioned and in their liberated situations. 

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is the supreme individual person, and Arjuna, the Lord’s eternal associate, and all the kings assembled there are individual eternal persons. It is not that they did not exist as individuals in the past, and it is not that they will not remain eternal persons. Their individuality existed in the past, and their individuality will continue in the future without interruption.Therefore, there is no cause for lamentation for anyone.

The Māyāvādī theory that after liberation the individual soul, separated by the covering of māyā, or illusion, will merge into the impersonal Brahman and lose its individual existence is not supported herein by Lord Kṛṣṇa, the supreme authority. Nor is the theory that we only think of individuality in the conditioned state supported herein. Kṛṣṇa clearly says herein that in the future also the individuality of the Lord and others, as it is confirmed in the Upaniṣads, will continue eternally. This statement of Kṛṣṇa’s is authoritative because Kṛṣṇa cannot be subject to illusion. 

If individuality were not a fact, then Kṛṣṇa would not have stressed it so much – even for the future. The Māyāvādī may argue that the individuality spoken of by Kṛṣṇa is not spiritual, but material. Even accepting the argument that the individuality is material, then how can one distinguish Kṛṣṇa’s individuality? Kṛṣṇa affirms His individuality in the past and confirms His individuality in the future also. 

He has confirmed His individuality in many ways, and impersonal Brahman has been declared to be subordinate to Him. Kṛṣṇa has maintained spiritual individuality all along; if He is accepted as an ordinary conditioned soul in individual consciousness, then His Bhagavad-gītā has no value as authoritative scripture. A common man with all the four defects of human frailty is unable to teach that which is worth hearing. The Gītā is above such literature. No mundane book compares with the Bhagavad-gītā. 

When one accepts Kṛṣṇa as an ordinary man, the Gītā loses all importance. The Māyāvādī argues that the plurality mentioned in this verse is conventional and that it refers to the body. But previous to this verse (BG, Ch 2 text 11) such a bodily conception is already condemned. After condemning the bodily conception of the living entities, how was it possible for Kṛṣṇa to place a conventional proposition on the body again? Therefore, individuality is maintained on spiritual grounds and is thus confirmed by great ācāryas like Śrī Rāmānuja and others. 

It is clearly mentioned in many places in the Gītā that this spiritual individuality is understood by those who are devotees of the Lord. Those who are envious of Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead have no bona fide access to the great literature. The nondevotee’s approach to the teachings of the Gītā is something like that of a bee licking on a bottle of honey. One cannot have a taste of honey unless one opens the bottle. 

Similarly, the mysticism of the Bhagavad-gītā can be understood only by devotees, and no one else can taste it, as it is stated in the Fourth Chapter of the book (Bhagavad Gita As It Is). Nor can the Gītā be touched by persons who envy the very existence of the Lord. Therefore, the Māyāvādī explanation of the Gītā is a most misleading presentation of the whole truth. 

Lord Caitanya has forbidden us to read commentations made by the Māyāvādīs and warns that one who takes to such an understanding of the Māyāvādī philosophy loses all power to understand the real mystery of the Gītā. If individuality refers to the empirical universe, then there is no need of teaching by the Lord. The plurality of the individual soul and the Lord is an eternal fact, and it is confirmed by the Vedas as above mentioned." (BG, Ch 2 text 12 Purport)<^^>










Monday, June 9, 2025

Genuine loving devotional service to Krsna is only possible in a "two-way" cooperative exchange of feelings that manifest in loving acts of reciprocation and mutual returns between Krsna and His pure devotees.

The highest love means both Krsna and His devotees serve each other without any desire for returns or reward, infact even though it is said the individual jiva-souls are Krsna's eternal servants in their full potential, the fact is Krsna serves His pure devotees far more than they can ever serve Him.

Krsna is the most selfless, the most humble, the most forgiving, the most serving.

We tend to forget how loving Krsna is to His pure devotees, for every step the devotee makes towards Krsna, He makes a thousand towards them.

Krsna's love for His devotees is inconceivable and deeply personal.

The devotees voluntarily contribute their own service and offerings individually unique to each of them, in response to Krsna's love and attention He showers them with. 

These kinds of selfless loving expressions are given in return because of Krsna's love, affection, protection and attention towards them.

This is the meaning and foundation of the word devotion, which is the real act of choosing to surrender to Krsna's will.

The simple understanding is this, if you love another, then you will always voluntarily do nice things for them, serve them and those they love.

On the other hand, for free will to have meaning, the individual jiva-souls (devotees) can also completely reject Krsna if they choose.

This "two-way" scenario is sanctioned by Krsna so free will can truly exist, otherwise if it was only "one-sided" with demands that the devotees must serve Krsna without loving contributions and exchanges, then free will would have no meaning.

Without the basic devotional, standard of having loving voluntary exchanges with Krsna or Visnu on a "two-way" cooperative street, then there can never be genuine love or voluntary service in one's relationship with Krsna.

Emotions expressed from only one individual person without the acknowledgement and acceptance of a second individual person, who also contribute to the decision making with their personal contributions, is known as impersonalism.

For love to exist, there must be a "two-way exchange" of feelings that expands, enriches and adds meaning, allowing a two-sided relationship to florish. 

The fact is, loving affection, sentiment and exchanges can only be experienced between two, where giving and receiving is possible that allows mutual reciprocation. 

Each jiva-soul (individual living units of anti-matter) known as Krsna's marginal energy, are singular one of a kind individual persons, who each have their own unique personality and spiritual bodily form, different from all other personalities, including Kṛṣṇas. 

There are no two individual jiva-souls who are the same, and no individual jiva-soul can ever be equal to Krsna (God), the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, who is simultaneously an individual Person, and is all-one (all-pervasive) with His spiritual and material creations. 

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana are not a dictatorial "one-way" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding dictatorship that denies individual personal voluntary contributions due to Krsna doing all the thinking and decision making for you. No, the spiritual planets are not impersonal or emotionally stagnant like that.

The fact is, on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana (the Kingdoms of God) there are always loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions based on "free will", and loving enriching reciprocation going on between Krsna and His devotees because without these attributes there can never be love.

Love can never exist with just one, there must be two so loving exchanges can be shared.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Therefore, loyalty is always a "two-way" street where the individual jiva-souls have their own unique personality seperate from Krsna's Personality, who are able to add their own personal unique expressions into the relationship with Kṛṣṇa that expands and forever enhances and enriches one's friendship with Krsna. 

Krsna will never "force" His devotee to do what he/she does not voluntary choose to do on the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, because they are not Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who are controlled in every way like a puppet master impersonally controls his puppets with the manipulation of strings. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So, surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is not impersonal, where the individual jiva-souls loses their free will (freedom of expression) that allows them to participate in a meaningful relationship by choosing, as the individual person they eternally are, the way they want to participate in voluntary service to Krsna, where the relationship with Kṛṣṇa is a two-way reciprocal exchange of loving emotions, only then does real love exist. 

Therefore, surrendering to Krsna does not mean you have to give up your intelligence, free will, personality, individuality and voluntary service and just be told how to think and perform all duties with no personal contributing participation. No, that type of "surrender" is impersonalism. 

Each individual jiva-soul needs to be nurtured to the top most platform by developing the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person who can voluntary serve Krsna eternally.

The spiritual worlds are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless totalitarian place for the individual jiva-souls, where they only obey the "supreme leader" and told how to act and think. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not impersonal like that in anyway, there is always voluntary loving exchanges of feelings and emotions going on, that are based on loving reciprocation between between two, between Krsna and His pure devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotee want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, and become a flower, voluntarily. And one can change from flower to any bodily form including human body, that is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

One's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom is never a one sided master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as explained above, Prabhupada is telling us here.

The individual jiva-souls in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever voluntarily expanding their unique expressions of service with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings made possible because of free will.

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

The fallen individual jiva-souls can also reside "inactively" in the impersonal brahmajyoti for a very, very, very long time (Millions of life times of Lord Brahma who lives for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years), however, they can NEVER remain "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti eternally, eventually they fall from there too and take birth in the temporary material world.

This is because the nature of the individual jiva-souls is to always be "active," either in their original home in the spiritual world, or in the temporary material world confined to transmigrating through 8 million 400 thousand species of material life (material bodily forms), that they again constantly try to be liberated from because of so much frustration, pain suffering. 

In other words, the impersonalists want their identity and personality permanently extinguished (spiritual suicide) because of so much pain and suffering they experience while trapped in cycle of birth and death in the material world. But permanent cessation of active existence is not possibe. 

In fact, not even Kṛṣṇa, Visnu or Siva can grant this foolish attempted spiritual suicide (to achieve permanent inactivity) by the fallen individual jiva-souls. 

This is because, as said above, the eternal nature of the individual jiva-souls in their original position and full potential in the spiritual world, is to be eternally fully "active" in Krsna or Visnu's pastimes.

Srila Prabhupāda - "Existence in the impersonal brahman (being inactive and identity extinguished) is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness and is also only a temporary condition (because the nature of the soul is to be always active in Krsna's pastimes.) Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in a fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana dasa, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

There is one benediction Krsna, Visnu or Siva and their devotees can NEVER grant.

Many impersonalist are very knowledgeable, as said above, many know Kṛṣṇa is an eternal Person and is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, but do not follow Him, or have any desire to serve Him.

The impersonalist have great knowledge of the Vedas, especially Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 that tells them - "The individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless and therefore will NEVER die."

But they do not accept that and only ask one benediction from Visnu, which is to die and cease to exist! To come to an inactive ending and never again falling out of the inactive impersonal brahmajyoti.

They know that presently their impersonal beliefs allow them to enter the impersonal brahmajyoti, where they can remain for a trillion life times of Lord Brahma (He lives for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years) but eventually again falls down from the impersonal brahmajyoti to again take birth in the temporary material world.

The impersonalist do not want that rebirth in the material world because while "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti for a trillion life times of Brahma, there is no pain and suffering experienced life after life in the material world. The fallen individual jiva-souls want to no longer exists and be eternally "inactive" in the impersonal brahmajyoti.

However, that is not possible, even billions of life times of Brahma is only a blink of an eye once the individual jiva-soul re-emerges from its impersonal slumber and again takes birth in the temporary material world, within a material bodily vessel.

So, these impersonalist (fallen individual jiva-souls who have now forgotten they were once Kṛṣṇa's devotee), now wants nothing do do with the Vaikuntha planets of Visnu/Narayana, or Krsna's central Abode of Goloka-Vrindavana, or the temporary material world of pain and suffering, ask Visnu to grant them (the individual jiva-soul) the benediction of permanent "death," and allow them to eternally reside in the "active" impersonal brahmajyoti that has no sense of individual self, no personality and no spiritual bodily form. 

They only want to appear eternally as an inactive individual impersonal "spark" hovering endlessly in the impersonal brahmajyoti.

In other words, the impersonalists want their identity, personality and spiritual bodily form eternally extinguished, they want to cease to exist which is really attempting to commit spiritual suicide. 

But Kṛṣṇa, Visnu or Siva can NEVER grant this silly attempt of spiritual suicide, because the eternal nature of the individual jiva-soul in their original position, is being beginningless and endless as a spiritual bodily form who is fully "active" serving Krsna or Visnu in the spiritual world. 

Only there on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana, is there no suffering, decay, birth or death.

These spiritual worlds are eternally youthful, and are the real home for the eternal individual jiva-souls.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also an individual person eternally as you are individual person eternally, I am individual person, but the difference between God and you and me is this, that you know your business, I know my business, but God knows everyone's business. That is the difference." (Lecture Melb, Australia April 3, 1972)

As explained above, real love, service or bhakti is reciprocal, it is never a "one-way street" where so called surrender to Krsna means only obeying without the choice of voluntary participation and personal contributions. 

Surrender to Krsna will never take away the devotee's individual freedom of choice on how they can voluntary provide a variety of unique personal contributions (offering) to Krsna when ever they want.

Each individual jiva-soul (devotee) has their own independent personality (yet always dependent on Krsna), but separate from Krsna's Personality.

This means they have their own sense of independent identity, of being a unique free thinking person that each individual jiva-souls have.

Meaning each individual jiva-soul has their own unique personality, or a strong sense of a singular unique identity).  

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva soul) making each of them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.

Free will in its full potential, is only fully experienced on the Vaikuntha planets and on Goloka-Vrindavan, which are the individual jiva-souls original perpetual home.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly, that is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means we have free will."

Hayagriva dasa - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is his free will, he misuses his free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad, but still he does it, that is his free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing, he knows he will be eventually punished, he knows; he has seen other thieves get caught and punshed and put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada and devotees on Rene Descartes philosophy)

Vipina Purandara - "Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand to them, "You love me, you love me, you love me!" Is it love? "You love me, otherwise I will kill you!" Is that love?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Krsna does not want followers who deny others their right to choose for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna, by offering their own unique personal contributions, or even rejecting Krsna if they choose as Prabhupada explains.

There is always a choice and that is why "free will" always exists in God's Kingdom, otherwise surrendering to Krsna without having the individual choice of to voluntary serve Him in the way they choose, makes the jiva-souls (devotees) mindless impersonal porns with no personality, making them no better than dead emotionless stone.

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges and cooperation between Krsna and His devotees, it is never a "one-way" demanding forceful dictatorial relationship.  

Ultimately, we are all Krsna's servants and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our free will and individual identity to be Krsna's friend and servant.

Free will has always existed in Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavana, and on Visnu/Narayana's Vaikuntha planets, and has eternally been part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul).

And yes, Krsna always allows free will because wants to experience a two-way voluntary relationship with His devotees and feel the loving exchanges, cooperation, participation and reciprocation with them.

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval the individual jiva-souls have everything including their free will. 

Everything there is, known or unknown, within or without, dreamed and not yet dreamed, exists in Krsna.

Therefore, Krsna is everything and nothing exists outside of Him because there is nothing outside of Krsna, He is everything there is, within and without.

Krsna is the ultimate source and sustainer of all creation, encompassing both the manifested universe and whatever existence that is not yet manifest or realized. 

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

As said above, if Krsna denied the individual jiva-soul's there free will, then they are no better than dead mindless stone.

Without free will the individual jiva-souls can never experience loving exchanges, participation, nor experience emotions and feelings for others because ultimately love is a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings only experienced when there is voluntary contributions in a two-way exchange that can only work when there is free will. 

Genuine love can never be experienced in a "one-way" totally controlled environment run by Krsna or anyone. Such impersonal control of an individual is called slavery.

Emotions expressed in a "one-way" mood without any exchange between ,"two" is not love at all, it is selfishness, and is really dangerous impersonalism.

Therefore, without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva soul will never experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and their personal unique offerings of individual contributions to Krsna 

As Prabhupada says, without "free will" we are no better than dead stone!

Free will or the ability to choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and always exists without beginning or end in all the spiritual planets.

As said above, free will in its full potential only exists on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, which are our original perpetual home from where we originated from.

As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls is never a "one-sided" domineering dictatorial autocracy, where the individual jiva-souls are denied their personal contributions, and having the choice in how they want to serve Krsna, but instead told what to do and think.

No, proper loving relations are ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there are two exchanging loving devotion for each other, as Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately, each individual jiva-soul is a unique person as a spiritual bodily form, who can choose for themselves how they want to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him. 

As Prabhupada explains here, Krsna never forces the individual jiva-souls to mindlessly surrender to Him, never forces them to love Him, that MUST be voluntary so loving exchanges and mutual cooperation can exist on a two-way street. This also means one must choose for themselves how they want to serve Krsna, or even not serve Him at all, there is always a choice.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary. Love is reciprocal, good exchange of feeling, then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?" Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence, that is force. In Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand you love me, you love me, you love me, otherwise I will kill you, is that love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love?" So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver - "You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).

The individual jiva-souls on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever expanding their expression of individual contributions with personal offerings based on free will, inspired by selfless loving exchanges and  reciprocation with Krsna, it is never a one-sided master/slave relationship with God in His Kingdom.

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own autonomous personality that is separate from Krsna's Personality, having their own sense of independent self, and unique characteristics that each individual jiva-soul uniquely has, meaning no two other individual jiva-souls are the same. 

Each jiva-soul is a unique individual with their own personality and exclusive spiritual bodily form. 

All these qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) make up in the spiritual worlds as the independent unique "PERSON" they are eternally.

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. So God does not interfere with your independence." (Conversation Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Having the attributes of being an eternal PERSON as a spiritual bodily form similar to Krsna's Body, also includes having the free will to voluntary serve Krsna the way the devotee chooses to serve.

And never in the way impersonalist leadership demands, with their cold autocratic dictates that denies all personal contributions and voluntary involvement.  

Krsna does not want to be surrounded those "mindless puppets" who have no individual creative offerings of their own making to voluntary contribute to Krsna because they wrongly believe surrender means being totally controlled by a puppet master (their version of Krsna) and like that puppet, only told what to offer and how to think. No, real personal surrender to Krsna is not impersonal like that.

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is always voluntary, some devotee want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, and become a flower, voluntarily. And one can change from flower to any bodily form including human body, that is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)///











In Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2, it is explained that the "individual life force" is a collective of individual living units of anti-matter, known as the "individual jiva-souls or marginal energy" headed by "Krsna the Supreme individual Person and maintainer of all that exists."

Furthermore, all individual jiva-souls, who have eternally existed, are a spiritual bodily form (non-material) in their real home in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Krsna’s top most Abode of Goloka-Vrindavana as the Lord's eternal volunteer servants.

Like Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, the individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless, they have never came into being at some point because Krsna and the individual jiva-souls have always existed.

Modern material scientists of the 21st century, cosmologists, Astrophysicists, Archologist and many modern day historians have all got it all wrong.

They have not understood the temporary material universe's real origins, and have no idea what the individual life force (anti-matter), known as the jiva-souls, really is. 

Furthermore, individual eternal life is not an "all-one" all-pervasive consciousness that only has form when embodied in a material bodily container.

No! The living force (anti-matter) which is a collective of eternal individual jiva-souls or Krsna's marginal energy, are individual PERSONS as a spiritual bodily form, who each have their own unique individuality, personality, identity, and a separate independent existence from all other individual jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa.

This understanding of the eternal living individual life forms, and understanding what is dead matter, must be also properly understood. 

As explained above, the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) were never created, they are eternal PERSONS like Krsna without a beginning or ending that lasts for infinity. 

Krsna and the eternal individual jiva-souls are just like the Sun-disc (Krsna and His direct Visnu-tattva expansions) and the sun-rays (the individual jiva-souĺs who are Krsna's separated expansions) who eternally exist together. 

The sun-rays are compared to the eternal individual jiva-souls, and the Sun-disc is compared to Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. 

The sun-rays are always dependent on the Sun-disc and both eternally exist together. 

Similarly, even though the individual jiva-souls have their own independent nature and free will, still they always remain fully dependent on Krsna (a paradox) because everything is Krsna and nothing is seperate from Krsna's absolute control.

It is important to understand thst the individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS as a spiritual bodily FORM, who can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished due to them being indestructible.

Srila Prabhupada - "If God is not an individual Person, then how did His sons become individual personalities? If your father is a total emptiness, if he is not an individual person, then how did you become an individual person? If your father doesn't have a uniform, how did you get one? These questions are based on common sense and basic logic; there is nothing difficult here to understand. 

Unfortunately, people who are disappointed in material existence either try to come up with a form of God or conclude that because material form is temporary and causes a lot of suffering, God must not have any form at all. 

According to their logic,since all forms in the material world are absorbent, God is likely to be formless. The Brahma-Samhita especially emphasizes that this notion is wrong. 

Ishwarah paramah krsna, sat-chit-ananda-vigraha. 

God (Krsna) has a form. His form is sat-chit-ananda-vigraha. 

1 - Sat means "eternal," 

2 - chit means "knowledge,"  

3 - ananda means “bliss"

4 - vigraha means spiritual bodily form, His form is eternal and full of knowledge and bliss." (A path to perfection, Ch 3 The Science of Contemplation of God)

Only the temporary material bodily vessel (matter) the active individual eternal jiva-soul (anti-matter) is in, decays and wears out and breaks down into material elements then merges back into the "oneness" of inactive (lifeless) material energy.

All individual jīva-souls are eternal persons, there are no new individual jiva-souls ever being created because they have always existed.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the material body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

The individual jiva-souls are a living unique collective of anti-matter living entities, marginal energy, as PERSONS in the form of individual spiritual bodies who are beginningless and endless and therefore indestructible as described above..<_>..









The first Travelling Temple Double Decker Bus was purchased in October 1971 and traveled all over Australia begining in July 1972.

This is a story of those early great days of pioneering Sankirtan in Australia.

For some of us, those early years were the best days of our devotional life in ISKCON.

The World's First Travelling Hare Krishna Temple.

It was at 83 Hereford Street Glebe Temple near the Sydney University in early July 1972 we began our first preaching mission on our Travelling Temple Hare Krishna Bus in Northern Australia.

ISKCON in Australia had only been going for just 2 years, starting in March 1970 by the late Upananda dasa and the late Bali madana dasa who arrived in Sydney from San Francisco USA.

By July 1972 there was about 55 devotees in Australia in two Temples, Sydney and Melbourne.

In July 1972 from Sydney a third Temple was established on a Double Decker Bus.

On the Temple Bus there were 14 devotees, young boys and girls mostly still in their teens.

Although in July 1972 that late Madhudvisa Swami was 24 years old and Balarama was the oldest at 29 years old.

We had written in big letters on the side-

"The Hare Krishna Movement, The Positive Alternative."

We were spreading the mission of Lord Caitanya for the first time on Australian soil.

So we left Sydney Temple for the trip of a lifetime, we came to believe that we had probably taken us thousands of life times to achieve such a privilege. We were on the very first preaching mission to every Towns and Villages around Australia.

The devotees on this first travelling preaching mission were:

The late Madhudvisa Swami,

Caru (only came part of the way),

Balarama,

The late Yasomatinandana,

Dvaipayana, the cook,

Ted Spencer who the previous year was the world champion for surfboard riding,

The late Kuntiboja,

The late Kainaram,

Chittahari,

Srngi (Muralidhar das) meet up with in Cairns,

Krishna Prema dasa (meet up with in Cairns).

And me Gauragopala dasa, who shared Bus driving duties with Balarama, and also lead many kirtans playing mridanga.

The 'boys' (because that's what we were back then) lived in the Brahmacari's quarters, which were the bottom deck of the bus (except for the bus drivers who had a private space upstairs), while the second deck (upstairs) was the Brahmacharini or girls quarters, they are:

Ambika,

Kamarupa (who joined us in Cairns)

Sukla devi-dasi.

Elaine Mitchell also joined us there in the Commune at Kuranda near Cairns.

Most of us where teenagers back then except for Madhudvisa Swami, Balarama and Ted Spencer.

Ted Spencer was world surfing champion, he was 19 when he won his first Bell at Bells Beach in 1968 and again in 1969. 

He famously declared - "When I surf, I dance for Krishna", urged on in his heats by a full Hare Krishna cheer squad." (Bells Beach, Australia - the Age Newspaper). 

Other famous surfers like Nat Young also spent time with us when we arrived in Brisbane.

It was on this bus trip we hear that Siddhasvarupa Swami (Chris Butler) was preaching the soul originated from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti, he had heard this from some of Prabhupada's Godbrothers in the Gaudiya Math.

This created the ''origin of the jiva'' controversy that went on over the next few months.

The idea that we originated from the impersonal Brahman was quickly rejected in a letter from Prabhupada called ‘'Crow-And-Tal-Fruit Logic'' that eventually was sent to all Temple Presidents in Australia and the World.

It was a very hot topic back then in 1972 but Prabhupada was personally present to guide us with what is now a famous letter denying the foolish nonsense we all originated from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti.

We all knew this was a very auspicious time in history in 1972 and being part of something very special, we felt blessed to be at the very beginnings of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement. 

We just new that the teachings of Srila Prabhupada we were hearing, was the revelation of a long kept secret and explanations that told us about the vast universe and it's creator Lord Krishna.

As we travelled up North we chanted and distributed Magazines for the first time on the streets of the City Newcastle and then all Towns in-between Sydney and Brisbane,

Kempsey,

Port Macquarie,

Foster,

Bellingen,

Coffs Harbour,

Nambacca,

Grafton,

Ballina,

Murwillumbah,  

Lismore,

Nimbin the hippie centre of Australia,

Lennox Head,

Byron Bay.

By far the spookiest place we went to was Byron Bay; Kainaram claimed he had seen the ghost of a dead girl who had been killed by a train many years ago. 

On many occasions he said people had said they picked up this lonely little girl to take her home, only to find when they got to there home she had mysteriously disappeared. People would go up to the house to tell the little girls parents only to find she had died many years before. 

Obviously, it was just an urban legend and our simplistic very young immature minds were intrigued with Madhudvisa Swami told us. He used this story to preach to us the difference between the subtle material body and gross material body.

After Byron Bay with all the hippies there, we went to Murwillumbah where we chanted in the streets for the first time. Soon, in May 1977, (5 years later) we would establish the farm New Govardhana there.

We then visited Tweed Heads and Coolangatta, two Towns on the border of NSW and Queensland on the Gold Coast, we chanted there for two hours handing out "Back To Godhead Magazines," then went to Tugan, Burleigh heads, Broadbeach, Surfers Paradise and Southport.

For the first time in Australian history, we chanted in all these places, distributed Back To Godhead Magazine and Prasadam and spoke to the enormous crowds that gathered around watching us.

We stayed on the Gold Coast for four days then went inland to Armadale where there was a University. 

We meet an Indian Professor who invited us to the Uni where we chanted and distributed Prasadam. Many highly educated Indian families lived there and some of us went to their houses to speak from Bhagavad Gita As It Is.

Back in those days in 1972, only highly educated coloured people were allowed in Australia, who were only mostly Christian. 

At this time this "white Australia policy" was the law.

The Liberal Australian Government of that time only want to immigrated white Europeans to Australia from mainly the UK and Western Europe and did not want Africans, Chinese, Indians and other Asians to immigrate to Australia.

This is why no Indian devotees were in our Temples in Australia during the 1970s however, the Indians in Armidale were highly educated and wealthy. 

Some claimed to also be Christian (when they were really Hindus) but lied just so they could get into Australia.  

At the time all black people were mostly banned from entering Australian except for famous rich singers and entertainers like Sammy Davis Jr.

That's why in all photos from the 1970s of ISKCON Australia, you will see no back people or Indians at all, not even one living in the Temple. Only a few Indians and Asian came to the Sunday love feast. A few blacks sometimes turned up but they were Aboriginals.  

Today in 2025, it's the other way around, in Melbourne ISKCON,   99% of congregation are from Indian, unheard of in the 1970s because the white Australia racist policy that was eradicated in 1979.

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As the night progressed, the Indian women cooked up some amazing food preparations that we offered to Srila Prabhupada. That place was very, very cold. Every morning, even in the middle of winter, we had cold showers behind the bus. To give one an idea, Balarama was walking to the bus one cold morning with what we thought was a board, but it was really his underwear (kopings) frozen solid!

We eventually arrived in Toowoomba in Queensland and chanted to the rednecks out back Queenslanders who thought we were some alien invasion from another planet!

Many of the devotees on the Bus, like Balarama and Ted Spencer where surfboard riders, they attracted many young people to learn about Krishna and take prasad. 

Especially Ted Spencer, as said above, who was a well-known celebrity around the world winning his first World Surfing title in 1968 at 19 years old.

We then left Armadale and headed back to the Gold Coast, to Beenleigh, in-between the Gold Coast and Brisbane. 

The day we arrived in Brisbane, we chanted on the city streets and were on page two of the Couramail Newspaper the next day.

The headline was "The Hare Krishna's have arrived with the chant of peace."

Brisbane was also having their annual "Royal Show" that attracted tens of thousands of peoples. We chanted out the front gates of the "Show grounds" where so many people saw the Hare Krishna's for the first time ever in Queensland, many receiving Back To Godhead Magazine.

It was there Nat Young, another famous surfer World Champion and friend of Ted Spencer joined us for a few days and become friends with Madhudvisa Swami who nicely preached to him about Krishna.

We never had the full version of the Gita in those days, only the abridged edition with the forward by Allen Ginsberg.

Those years were extraordinary. Dwaip cooked up beautiful offerings to Srila Prabhupada and Lord Caitanya and Nityananda while Balarama and myself were the Bus Drivers. 

We were all young inquisitive philosophers, especially asking about the "origin of the jiva-soul."

We just new we were very fortunate to be on that bus hearing such wonders of creation. Some of us asked 'what did we deserve to hear the Srimad Bhagavatam.

Some of us speculated we were yogis, mystics, devotees and even demons from the Satya-yuga. Madhudvisa Swami laughed and simply said 'It is by the causeless mercy of Lord Caitanya and Srila Prabhupada that the seeds of Bhakti are now sown in our hearts.

Madhudvisa Swami read from one of Prabhupada's original volumes of Srimad Bhagavatam Srila Prabhupada brought with him in 1965 to America, those classes were amazing, I personally learned so much about Krishna Consciousness in those wonderful classes.

In those days we would chant on the streets for 6 or 8 hours a day. One night at the showgrounds we chanted from 9 am to 10 pm (11 hours) because there where so many people there.

We chanted through all the Towns and cities as we proceeded up north to Cairns.

We went through Towns that include -

Bundaberg,

Mackay,

Hervey Bay where we had big feast with hundreds of curious locals attended, (the Americans call them rednecks, we call them yobbos).

Gladstone,

Rockhampton,

Hervey Bay,

Airlie beach,

Townsville, where we were on the front page of the main paper.

Actually all papers in all Towns were doing articles on us that kept us very busy doing interviews and arranging interviews with Madhudvisa Swami.

Then we arrived in Cairns near the top of Australia. We had travelled over 3,500 miles since we left Sydney in a Bus that went only 35 miles per hour or 60 Kilometres an hour in today's system. The change over from miles to Kilometres did happen until 1974.

At Kuranda, just 30 Kilometres or 17 miles outside of Cairns, Madhudvisa Swami lead a blissful kirtan through the hippie community and to our surprise many hundreds of them came out of the forest and joined us in a long procession.

Many dancing to the chanting of Hare Krishna were naked, some as young as 14 joined in chanting and dancing, never have I have seen anything like this before nor since. Those hippy days were amazing times.

Elaine Mitchell who was there has said on her experience-

"I was there at Kuranda in August/September 1972 and went on the Travelling Temple Bus to the Millaa Millaa Buddhist colony for the Janmastami (Krishna's Birthday). It was very special.

I had been going to the temple regularly before going to Cairns and I remember well, people were mostly naked in the commune when they went swimming although only a few guys used to get around naked all the time as I recall.

Most of the girls wore beautiful long hippie dresses or sarongs etc. My girlfriend and 8 or 9 other friends hitchhiked up from Melbourne together to be in Kuranda. I personally was quite chaste and wore nice clothing."(end) 

There was an explosion of devotees around the middle of 1972, the communes we went to in Australia were full of hippies and potential devotees at that time, we chanted through the forest areas and were like the pied piper and hundreds of hippies came out of the forest and followed us singing Hare Krishna.

Yes, there were hundreds of them at a place called Kuranda in Northern Queensland, it was truly amazing at that time, I have never ever seen anything like it since.

Even today, if you stand on the hill where all those hippies once gathered and chanted Hare Krishna, you can still see where the high water mark of transcendental bliss reached in the early 70s.

So now, 53 years later, you can go up on that steep hill in Kuranda and look down over the beautiful forest, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave of transcendental Hare Krishna Sankirtan bliss finally broke and rolled back.

Devotees before this 1972 Bus trip had never visited anywhere outside of Sydney or Melbourne. We were the pioneers at the very beginning of Lord Caitanya's Golden Age in Kali-yuga.

We celebrated Janmastami (Krishna's Birthday) at a Buddhist colony not far from Kuranda on 1 Sep 1972; we loaded as many hippies as we could in the double decker Hare Krishna bus, all chanting Hare Krishna and dancing 'on the bus' to the excellent blissful kirtans with Madhudvisa leading. IT WAS VERY SPECIAL.

The following day 2nd of September was Srila Prabhupada's Vyasa-puja and Madhudvisa Swami had lit a candle under Srila Prabhupada's photo, the aura, bliss, love and security from that photo permeated the entire bus with an amazing mood of reverence and Krishna Consciousness.

They were amazing days and there was a childish innocence about those days; In fact we thought Madhudvisa Swami was old (he just was 24 years old, Ted Spencer was 24 and Balarama was the oldest at 29). The rest of us where still teenagers or just 20 years old like me. 

The present generation I don't think realize how young we were in those beginning years of ISKCON.

There was also no hanky panky going on either back then in 1972, everyone was very sincere, very dedicated and very attached to Prabhupada.

We only honoured food offerings to the Deities and absolutely nothing else from outside the Temple, if it was not prepared on the Bus we would not eat it except on rare occasions at an Indians home as we did in Armadale (We had a beautiful photo of the Panca-tattva with a wonderful Photo of Prabhupada at their feet).

No one even dreamed of eating anything unprepared by devotees or even drink soft drinks in those blissful days.

End of Part 1 The World's First Travelling Hare Krishna Temple.