Who are the Pancha Tattva? A full detailed explanation of the Vaishnava Vedic tradition.

Who are the Pancha Tattva? A full detailed explanation.

Left to Right in painting below,

1 - Sri Advaita,
2 - Sri Nityananda,
3 - Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu,
4 - Sri Gadadhara,
5 - Sri Srivasa

(jaya) sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu nityananda
sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda

Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare
Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.

Lord Krishna enjoys by manifesting Himself as the Spiritual Masters, the devotees, the diverse energies, the incarnations and the plenary portions in the form of the Panca-Tattva.

The Panca-Tattva are all five in one. I, therefore, worship the lotus feet of these five diversities of the one truth, the Panca-Tattva, by invoking their benedictions.

I offer my respectful obeisances unto the spiritual masters, the devotees of the Lord, the Lord’s incarnations, His plenary portions, His energies and the primeval Lord Himself, Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. (Sri Krishnadasa Kaviraja Goswami)

1 - Sri Krishna Caitanya,
2 - Prabhu Nityananda,
3 - Sri Advaita,
4 - Gadadhara,
5 - Srivasa 

Sri Krishnadasa Kaviraja Goswami in the Caitanya Caritamrita describes them as follows.

“Spiritually, there are no differences between these five tattvas, for on the transcendental platform everything is absolute. Yet, there are also varieties in the spiritual world, and in order to taste these spiritual varieties, one should distinguish between them” (C.C.Adi 7.5)

“Let me offer my obeisances unto Lord Sri Krishna, who has manifested Himself in five as a devotee (Lord Caitanya), expansion of a devotee (Lord Nityananda), incarnation of a devotee (Advaita Acarya), pure devotee (Srivasa), and devotional energy (Gadadhara)” (C.C.Adi 7.6)

1 - Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu

“The loving affairs of Sri Radha and Krishna are transcendental manifestations of the Lord’s internal pleasure-giving potency. Although Radha and Krishna are one in Their identity, They separated Themselves eternally. Now, these two transcendental identities have again united, in the form of Sri Krishna Caitanya. I bow down to Him, who has manifested Himself with the sentiment and complexion of Srimati Radharani, although He is Krishna Himself.” (C.C.Adi 1.5)

“Desiring to understand the glory of Radharani’s love, the wonderful qualities in Him that She alone relishes through Her love, and the happiness She feels when She realizes the sweetness of His love, the Supreme Lord Hari, richly endowed with Her emotions, appeared from the womb of Srimati Saci devi as the moon appeared from the ocean” (C.C.Adi 1.6)

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the source of energy for all His devotees. He is maha-vadanyavatara, the most magnanimous incarnation of the Lord, for He does not consider the offenses of the fallen souls. In order to take full benefit of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra, we must first take shelter of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

2 - Sri Nityananda Prabhu

“May Sri Nityananda Rama be the object of my constant remembrance. Sankarsana, Sesa Naga and the Visnus who lie on the Karana Ocean, Garbha Ocean and Ocean of Milk are His plenary portions and the portions of His plenary portions.” (C.C.Adi 1.7)

“I surrender unto the lotus feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, who is known as Sankarsana in the midst of the catur-vyuha [consisting of Vasudeva, Sankarsana, Pradyumna and Aniruddha]. He possesses full opulences and resides in Vaikunthaloka, far beyond the material creation.” (C.C.Adi 1.8)

“I offer my full obeisances unto the feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, whose partial representation called Karanadakasayi Visnu, lying on the Karana Ocean, is the original Purusa, the master of the illusory energy, and the shelter of all the universes.” (C.C.Adi 1.9)

“I offer my full obeisances unto the feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, a partial part of whom is Garbhodakasayi Visnu. From the navel of Garbhodakasayi Visnu sprouts the lotus that is the birthplace of Brahma, the engineer of the universe. The stem of that lotus is the resting place of the multitude of planets.” (C.C.Adi 1.10)

“I offer my respectful obeisances unto the feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, whose secondary part is the Visnu lying in the Ocean of Milk. That Ksirodakasayi Visnu is the Supersoul of all living entities and the maintainer of all the universes. Sesa Naga is His further subpart” (C.C.Adi 1.11)

Devotees understand that Lord Nityananda is Balarama Himself — the first expansion of Krishna. Vrindavan das Thakur, author of Caitanya Bhagavat prays,

“I offer my respectful obeisances unto Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Sri Nityananda Prabhupada's, whose long arms extend to Their knees. They have splendid golden complexions, and They inaugurated the congregational chanting of The Holy Names of the Lord.

Their eyes resemble the petals of lotus flowers. They are the maintainers of all the worlds, the best of the brahmanas, the protectors of religious principles for this age. They bring happiness to the people of the world, and are the most merciful incarnations.”

Lord Nityananda is even more merciful than Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu because after Nitai was struck on the head with an earthen pot by the sinful Jagai and Madhai, He stopped Lord Caitanya from killing the two criminals.

He begged the Lord to spare their lives because after all, their mood was to make devotees by killing the demoniac tendencies within, not by slaying wrong-doers.

The Lord agreed to do this if the demoniac brothers would give up their sinful activities and change their bad habits into Krishna Conscious ones.

By His request, Mahaprabhu spared the brothers. By this mercy, the brothers fell at the feet of Caitanya Mahaprabhu and immediately surrendered their lives in devotion to Lord Caitanya.

3 - Sri Advaita Acharya

Advaita means non-dual because He is non-different from the Supreme Lord. Acarya means He is disseminating Krishna Consciousness. Advaita is Mahavisnu, whose main function is to create the cosmic world through the actions of Maya

“Because He is nondifferent from Hari, the Supreme Lord, He is called Advaita, and because He propagates Krishna Consciousness, He is called Acarya. He is the Lord and the incarnation of the Lord’s devotee. Therefore I take shelter of Him” (C.C.Adi 1.13)

Advaita Acarya is in the Visnu-tattva with Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Sri Nityananda Prabhu. These are the three masters, but Nityananda and Advaita are servants of Mahaprabhu.

It was Advaita Gosai who prayed to the Lord by offering water and Tulasi leaves to His Salagram Sila Krishna Deity by loudly roaring his request for the Lord to appear.

4 - Sri Gadadhara Pandit

“The pleasure potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa formerly known as Vṛndāvaneśvarī is now personified in the form of Śrī Gadādhara Paṇḍita in the pastimes of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.”

Śrī Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī has pointed out that in the shape of Lakṣmī, the pleasure potency of Kṛṣṇa, she was formerly very dear to the Lord as Śyāmasundara-vallabhā.

The same Śyāmasundara-vallabhā is now present as Gadādhara Paṇḍita. Formerly, as Lalitā-sakhī, she was always devoted to Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī.”  (C.C.Adi 10.15 purport)

Gadadhara Goswami is a representative of a perfect brahmana spiritual master He is the Pleasure Potency of Sri Krishna (Srimati Radharani) He is a learned scholar and Gadadhara Pandit is simultaneously an incarnation of Srimati Radharani and Lalita-sakhi

Gadadhara is the incarnation of devotional energy and of the internal potency who is shakti tattva, the confidential worshipper of the Visnu tattva.

In this incarnation, Radharani was able to spend time with Her Lord as an intimate associate who helped spread the pastimes and glories of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

5 - Sri Srivasa Pandit Thakura

Srivasa Thakura is the incarnation of the pure devotee of the Lord. He is jiva-tattva, the leader of all pure unalloyed devotees.

“All glories to Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord Nityananda! All glories to Advaita Prabhu, and all glories to the devotees of Lord Caitanya, headed by Srivasa!” (C.C.Adi 10.2)

“These two captains, with Their soldiers, such as Srivasa Thakura, travel everywhere, chanting the holy name of the Lord” (C.C.Adi 3.75)

“The devotees headed by Srivasa are His smaller limbs. They are like His hands, face and eyes and His disc and other weapons” (C.C.Adi 6.38)

“Srivasa, Haridasa, Ramadasa, Gadadhara, Murari, Mukunda, Candrasekhara and Vakresvara are all glorious and are all learned scholars, but the sentiment of servitude to Lord Caitanya makes them mad in ecstasy.” (C.C.Adi 6.49-50).

The Lord’s "marginal energy" (jiva tattva) is Srivas Thakur.

“There are innumerable pure devotees of the Lord, headed by Srivasa Thakura, who are known as unalloyed devotees” (C.C.Adi 7.16)

Even cats and dogs in the household of Srivasa Thakura were liberated. Cats and dogs and other animals are not expected to become devotees, but, in the association of a pure devotee, they are also delivered.

The entire family of Srivasa was made up of exalted spiritual personalities.

“In the Gaura-ganodesa dipika (90), Srivasa Pandita is described as an incarnation of Narada Muni, and Sri Rama Pandita, his younger brother, is said to be an incarnation of Parvata Muni, a great friend of Narada’s.

Śrīvāsa Paṇḍita’s wife, Mālinī, is celebrated as an incarnation of the nurse Ambikā, who fed Lord Kṛṣṇa with her breast milk, and his niece Nārāyaṇī, the mother of Ṭhākura Vṛndāvana dāsa, the author of Śrī Caitanya-bhāgavata, was the sister of Ambikā in kṛṣṇa-līlā.

We also understand from the description of Śrī Caitanya-bhāgavata that after Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s acceptance of the sannyāsa order, Śrīvāsa Paṇḍita left Navadvīpa, possibly because of feelings of separation, and domiciled at Kumārahaṭṭa.” (C.C.Adi 10.8)

The Five Truths known as the Pancha Tattva

“The supreme energetic, the Personality of Godhead, manifesting in order to enjoy five kinds of pastimes, appears as the members of the Panca-tattva.

Actually, there is no difference between them because they are situated on the absolute platform, but they manifest different spiritual varieties as a challenge to the impersonalists to taste different kinds of spiritual humors (rasas).

In the Vedas it is said, parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate:

‘The varieties of energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead are differently known.’

From this statement of the Vedas one can understand that there are eternal varieties of humors, or tastes, in the spiritual world.

Sri Gauranga, Sri Nityananda, Sri Advaita, Sri Gadadhara and Srivasa Thakura are all on the same platform.

In spiritually distinguishing between them one should understand that -

1 - Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is the form of a devotee, (combination of Radha and Krishna)

2 - Nityananda Prabhu appears in the form of a devotee’s spiritual master, (Vishnu-tattva)

3 - Advaita Prabhu is the form of a bhakta (devotee) incarnation, (Vishnu tattva)

4 - Gadadhara Prabhu is the energy of a bhakta, (Vishnu tattva)

5 - Srivasa Thakura is a pure devotee (jiva tattva) and is also Naradha Muni.

Thus there are spiritual distinctions between them.

1 - The bhakta-rupa (Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu),

2 - The bhakta-svarupa (Sri Nityananda Prabhu)

3 - The bhakta-avatara (Sri Advaita Prabhu) are described as the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself. His immediate manifestation and His plenary expansion, and They all belong to the Visnu tattva category.

Although the spiritual and marginal energies of the Supreme Personality of Godhead are nondifferent from the Supreme Personality of Godhead Vishnu, they are predominatped subjects, whereas Lord Vishnu is the predominator.

As such, although they are on the same platform, they have appeared differently in order to facilitate tasting of transcendental mellows.

Actually, however, there is no possibility of one being different from the other, for the worshiper and the worshipable cannot be separated at any stage. On the absolute platform, one cannot be understood without the other. (C. C. Adi 7.5)

Pancha-tattva mantra

(jaya) sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu nityananda
sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda

Devotees of The Hare Krishna Movement ISKCON first offer obeisances to Lord Chaitanya by chanting this Pancha-tattva mantra; then chant the Hare Krishna maha-mantra:

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

There are ten offenses in the chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, but these are not considered in the chanting of the Pancha-tattva mantra.

Lord Chaitanya is known as “maha-vadanyavatara”, the most magnanimous incarnation, for He does not consider the offenses of the fallen souls.

Thus to derive the full benefit of the chanting of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra, we must first chant the Pancha-tattva-mantra and then chant the maha-mantra.

This will help us to succeed in getting complete benefit of chanting the maha-mantra.

Lord Nityananda is even more merciful than Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu...

Why can't we see or perceive the existence of other material Planetary Systems? And why haven't we discovered life outside our earth globe yet?

Why can't we see or perceive the existence of other material Planetary Systems?

And from a Vedic point of view, why haven't we discovered life outside our earth globe yet?

The Srimad Bhagavatam's 5th Canto teaches us there are 14 different Planetary Systems, each with many thousands of planets in them?

So why is it so hard to see them in our gross biological body and through the bodies extensions of telescopes, space probes and radio telescopes?

The answer is actually very simple.

Each planet one enters, means they first must be qualified to enter that planet Srila Prabhupada explains in Srimad Bhagavatam's 5th Canto.

To enter a particular Planetary System, one must have the right type of material bodily vessel (gross or subtle, or a combination of both) that is suitable for that planet.

Only then with the right material body, are they allowed to enter the atmosphere of a particular planetary society or civilization.

For example, on the Moon there exists a higher heavenly realm where one can ONLY enter by having the right material body that is in sync with that heavenly realm, where the life span is 10,000 human years long according to Srimad Bhagavatam.

Only in a subtle material body can one enter the Moon's Chandraloka heavenly atmosphere, and NOT in a gross material container or body, like we presently have on this earth globe.

This is why the American astronauts could NOT enter or perceive the heavenly realm of Chandraloka on the Moon as Prabhupada has explained.

There are many thousands of civilizations on the many planets exiting within the 14 Planetary Systems according to Srimad Bhagavatam.

Even the Sun has a subtle heavenly realm underneath its gross dimension of extreme heat and fire we only perceive with our gross material vision.

Underneath the massive external flaming Sun disc is a great highly advanced civilization managed by the Sungod Surya on his Chariot that is unseen and unbelievable to the gross materialist while in their present gross material bodily vessel, relying on their extended primitive mundane limited technology.

All the inhabitants on the different material planets have different bodily containers suitable for their planet only.

There are 14 Planetary Systems that each have numerous individual planets.

Therefore one needs the correct material bodily vessel to enter a particular planet within their Planetary System.

Entry to all the 14 different Planetary Systems is ONLY achieved by one's pious or impious actions (Karma), it is not possible to enter any planetary atmosphere in any other way.

The most important reasons we do not perceive life on other planets is because, not only is the atmosphere of each planet different and the earthly forces, modern science calls gravity are also different on each planet, but most important of all, it is the movement or flow of material time that is different in each of the 14 Planetary Systems.

This is very important to understand because this material universe makes more sense by understanding the movement of space under the influence different dimensions of time.

From our "time zone" on our Earth globe, we are restricted from perceiving other "time zones" (dimensions) of other Planetary Systems and the planets in them.

We are limited from seeing or perceiving other times zones (dimensions) from our Earth globe  (Bhurloka) that is in the "middle Planetary System" that is the 8th System out of the 14 Planetary different Systems.

Bhu-Mandala is the name of our single universe that contains all the 14 different Planetary Systems.

Often Bhu-Mandala is also called the large earth but that should not be confused with the small earth globe we humans live on.

Bhu-Mandala is NOT our planet earth, the descriptions in Srimad Bhagavatam are far too big for Bhu-Mandala to be our small earth.

Bhugola is a description of both the celestial egg or Brahmanda greater universe, and the inner smaller Bhu-Mandala universe that is deep within the Brahmanda as seen in painting below.

Our Bhu-Mandala universe is described  as being 500,000, 000 yojana (4 billion miles) in diameter and is also called Bhu-gola.

‘Bhu-gola’ also refers to our small earth global sphere we live on as well.

Bhu-gola describes the Earth globe as a round spherical planet, which is just a spec in one of the 14 Planetary Systems that is within our small Bhu-Mandala universe.

In this way our small Bhu-Mandala universe is surrounded by the greater Bhu-gola (Brahmanda) universe that encases our 4 billion mile diameter Bhu-mandala universe.

Bhu-Mandala is also known as Bhu-gola too.

Therefore we can see that ‘Bhu-gola’, 'Brahmanda’ and 'Earth planet' all mean spherical too.

The size of our inner universe that is deep inside our surrounding Brahmanda universe (‘Bhu-gola’ or Celestial egg) is 500,000,000 yojana in diameter (4 billion miles).

I mile equals 8 yojanas

4 billions miles = 500,000,000 yojanas.

So our Earth global sphere we humans live on is NOT 4 billions miles in diameter and cannot be Bhu-mandala.

The descriptions in Srimad Bhagavatam DO describe the size of our inner universe as 4 billion miles in diameter that exists deep within the surrounding Brahmanda shell or greater universe.

As explained above, we humans are confined to our "small Earth globe" in the middle Planetary System's exclusive movement of time.

All the 14 Planetary Systems also have their own exclusive movement of time.

The real meaning of "other dimensions" is the different realities of space-time that exist throughout our individual material universes 14 Planetary Systems.

We on this earth globe in our gross material bodies, will only find others in outer space who share the same time zone (dimension)

This means we are incapable of seeing almost 95% of this material universe!

In other words we, in our gross material bodies within our earthly time zone, cannot detect in anyway the other 13 Planetary Systems and their thousands of planets existing within our single material universe.

The fact is, life is actually all around our planet, but unseen and undetected because of being restricted to our time zone.

Therefore, what ever we see is ONLY within our time zone as already explained.

The other 13 Planetary Systems are not perceived by us at all.

Time in the 7 higher planetary system moves very slow in human years.

And time moves faster in human years for the lower 6 Planetary Systems.

For example, on the top most planet Brahmaloka, time there moves very slowly in human years, just one day on Brahmaloka is 8 billion 640 million human years, and 100 years on Brahmaloka is 311 trillion 40 billion human years long.

It is important to understand that all the planetary Systems have their own measurement of space-time...***..

1 - Mahā-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Vishnu) 2 - Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu (Hiraņyagarbha) 3 - Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu (Paramātmā)

The three Viṣṇus who maintain the material creation- 

1 - Mahā-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Vishnu) 

2 - Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu (Hiraņyagarbha) 

3 - Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu (Paramātmā)

Maha-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu) is ultimately an expansion of Lord Balarama, the first expansion of Lord Krsna) the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Absolute truth, and cause of all causes.

Krsna is an individual Person with a spiritual bodily form with 2 arms, two legs etc in His eternal appearance.

All marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in their original position (bodily form), are in His image.

In Gauḍīya Vaisnavism the Sātvata-tantra describes three different forms, or aspects, of Krsna's Visnu expansions as -

1 - Mahā-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu)

2 - Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu (Hiraņyagarbha)

3 - Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu (Paramātmā).

Maha-Visnu further expands as the form of  Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu (Hiraņyagarbha) who enters each of the millions of large universes known as a Brahmandas that all originate from the pores of Maha-Visnu's Body and creates a secondary universe inside the Brahmanda.  

Each Garbhodakashayi Visnu lays down deep inside each of these massive Brahmanda outer surrounding universes and a Lord Brahma appears from His naval and builds the various planetary systems within the secondary material universe inside the Brahmanda. 

Maha-Visnu again further expands as Kṣīrodakaśāyī Visnu (Paramatma) who is the Supersoul situated in the heart of all material bodily vessels next to the marginal living beings (jiva-souls) in all the millions of material universes.

Kāraņodaksayi Visnu is Sankarsana (an expansion of Balarama) of the Catur-vyuha, the quadruple expansions of Krsna who predominate over the Vaikuṇṭha planets as His Visnu-tattva (jiva-soul) expansions.

Balarama is the first expansion of Lord Krsna who the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

This means Krsna is the origin of all Narayana and Visnu forms of the Lord (God)

Within each the Brahma's universes, the millions of demigods such as Indra, Yamaraj,  Vayu etc, as well as all the material bodily vessels that all the other visiting jiva-souls possess, are part and parcel of Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material creation going on within each of the different material secondary universes found deep within their outer Brahmandas universal covering.

Maha-Visnu creates all the material bodily vessels or containers that are eventually "hired" by all the visiting jiva-souls who have chosen to leave Vaikuntha and foolishly enter the mundane decaying material creation, which is 1/4 of the Brahmajyoti or Spiritual Sky.

No jiva-souls originate from the material creation or from Maha-Visnu or the Impersonal (dormant inactive condition) aspect of Brahmajyoti or Brahman.

This is because all jiva-souls originate directly from Vaikuntha, from Goloka Vrindavana.

Originally all jiva-souls are nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) in their original position Prabhupada explains below. 

The jiva-souls only become nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) when they enter the material creation, and impersonal inactive Brahmajyoti.

This means because  of free will, there are two "conditions" to each jiva-soul, they can be either nitya-siddha or nitya-baddha.

Some jiva-souls in the spiritual worlds choose to give up being nitya-siddha servant of the Lord in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana and become nitya-baddha by entering the material creation.

Fall down of the individual jiva-souls to the material creation means their status as nitya-siddhas changes to being nitya-baddha.  

Therefore, by choosing to enter the material creation, those jiva-souls are no longer nitya-siddha, they are now known as nitya-baddha.

Nitya-baddha means the jiva-soul has rejected Krsna. 

Only then do they become nitya-baddha after giving up their nitya siddha status.

However, one can again become nitya-siddha by returning back home back to Godhead.

It is a nonsense belief that nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha (the jiva-souls) were created as two separate categories of jiva-souls.

The nonsense belief there are two separate classes of jiva-souls is impersonalism because ALL jiva-souls are originally nitya-siddha.

Even though we are now nitya-baddha (in the material creation) we are actually nitya-siddha in our original position with Krsna or Visnu because that is our eternal nature as a marginal living entity, we just have to again realize it.

Srila Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka. When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "There are two kinds of marginal living entities: nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. The actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity is nitya-siddha. By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can become again nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha." (New York Lecture on Caitanya Caritamrta, July 13, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Nitya-baddhas are within this material world. Beginning from Brahma down to a small ant, insignificant ant, they are all nitya-baddha. Anyone who is in this material world they are nitya-baddha." (Lecture on Bhagavad-Gita 13-14, July 14, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can also become siddha. He can become again nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha, it is a difficult task." (London lecture on Bhagavad-Gita 13-14, July 14, 1973)

The original form of the marginal living entities or jiva-souls is not some nonsense impersonal spark in Krsna's effulgence (impersonal Brahmajyoti)

The jiva-souls are originally a two armed bodily (vigraha) form like Krsnas Prabhupada has explained to us.

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. Man is made after the shape of God. I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB 6.1.1-4 Melb, May 20, 1975)

Krsna never interferes with the jiva-soul's free will, even when they choose to reject Him.

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Philosophy Discussions between Prabhupada and Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago." (Lecture on Bhagavad-gita on August 6, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - ''These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha." (Letter to Jagadisa das, 1970)

However, sadly there are foolish sangas (religious groups) and their nonsense ignorant preachers including gurus and sannyasis polluted with Impersonalism who cannot understand the above comments.

The full potential and highest understanding of the jiva-souls are-

1 - Sat - eternity 

2 - Chit - knowledge 

3 - Ananda - bliss

4 - Vigraha - bodily form

Maha-Visnu in His material creation lays down in the causal ocean or the Karanodak, He then impregnate seeds of this material creation into Mahā-māyā by glancing at her.

All jiva-souls resting in the Body of Maha-Visnu have originally come from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, Maha-Visnu does not create any jiva-souls.

The fact like Maha-Visnu, the jiva-souls were never created, they have always existed as Bhagavad Gita teaches 

Mahā-māyā remains the ever obedient material energy of the Supreme Lord.

Maha-Visnu creates all the material elements -

1 - Sky,

2 - Fire,

3 - Water,

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4 - Air,

5 - Earth,

These material elements are created along with -

6 - Mind,

7 - Intelligence,

8 - False ego.

After this, Maha-Visnu enters each of the larger universes known as a Brahmandas, that originate from the pores of His Body, as Garbhodaksayi Visnu, who lays down deep inside each surrounding Brahmanda  universe, in a secondary smaller universe within it.

Garbhodakasayi Visnu is an expansion of Maha-Visnu, there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus and Lord Brahmas but only one Maha-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu).

All jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are individual independent living entities who can choose to enter this material creation, to the smaller material universe that exists with all its 14 planetary systems in the stem growing from the navel of Garbhodakasayi Visnu who are all encased deep inside the surrounding Brahmanda universe.

From Garbhodaksayi Visnu emerges Brahma who is the secondary creator within His secondary universe that is deep inside the outer surrounding Brahmanda universe.

Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu is an expansion of Mahā-Visnu.

In Gaudīya Vaisnavism the Sātvata-tantra describes three different forms of Visnu as:

1 - Mahā-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu)

2 - Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu (Hiraņyagarbha)

3 - Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu (Paramātmā).

Srila Prabhupada - ''The science of God analyzes the constitutional position of God and His diverse energies. Material nature is called prakṛti, or the energy of the Lord in His different puruṣa incarnations (expansions) as described in the Sātvata-tantra:

viṣṇos tu trīṇi rūpāṇi

puruṣākhyāny atho viduḥ

ekaṁ tu mahataḥ sraṣṭṛ

dvitīyaṁ tv aṇḍa-saṁsthitam

tṛtīyaṁ sarva-bhūta-sthaṁ

tāni jñātvā vimucyate

"For material creation, Lord Kṛṣṇa's plenary expansion assumes three Viṣṇus. 

1 - The first one, Mahā-Viṣṇu, creates the total material energy, known as the mahat-tattva. 

2 - The second, Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, enters into all the universes to create diversities in each of them. 

3 - The third, Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, is diffused as the all-pervading Supersoul in all the universes and is known as Paramātmā. He is present even within the atoms. 

Anyone who knows these three Viṣṇus can be liberated from material entanglement." (Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 7.4 Text 4 Purport)

Each Visnu-tattva form has a different role in the maintenance of the universe and its inhabitants.

1 - For material creation, Lord Krsna’s plenary expansion assumes three Visnus. The first, Mahā Viṣṇu, creates the total material energy, known as the mahat-tattva and all the Brahmanda universe as seen in painting below.

2 - The second, Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, enters deep inside of each of these massive Brahmanda  universes, reaching its center, and then creates a secondary inner universe with all its diversities.

3 - The third, Kṣīrodakaśāyī Visnu, is diffused as the all-pervading super soul in all the universes; in the heart of every living being, is known as Paramātmā. He is present even within the atoms.

The real objective of meditation in Yoga is attain service to Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

Garbhodhakaśāyī Visnu is also realized as the form of Pradyumna within the material universe who the father of Brahmā who appeared from His navel and hence Garbhodakashayi Visnu is also called Hiraņyagarbha.

There are billions of Brahmanda universes all originating from the Body of Maha-Visnu. 

Inside each Brahmanda universe, is a secondary smaller universe where Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Lord Brahma and all the different Planetary Systems are found. 

This inner material universe, is surrounded and encased by the outer Brahmanda universe's 7 or 8 massive material layers.

These are the names of the 14 material planetary Systems below in photo, just in our single material universe which is situated deep within our surrounding massive Brahmanda.

There are billions of these Brahmanda universes, all coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu as seen in painting below.

Each Brahmanda has their own "secondary inner material universe" deep inside their surrounding Brahmanda universe.

And each inner  secondary universe has their own Planetary System, that are all in different sizes, ours has 14 different Planetary Systems.

This means there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus, billions of Lord Brahmas, billions of Lord Sivas, billions of Indrus, billions of all the demigods in each universe deep inside their outer Brahmanda greater universe, but only one Maha-Visnu, as seen in painting below.*.*.*.

There are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus, Brahmas and Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu (Paramatma or Supersoul), but only ONE Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu)

Garbhodakashayi Visnu, seen in first painting below, resides deep inside of each of the billions of gigantic "Brahmanda material universes" that come from Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the entire material creation.

Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the "material world" is a dream of Maha-Visnu." (SB, Canto 4.29.83)

All the Brahmanda universes originate from the pores of His skin and His breathing, Srimad Bhagavatam's 5th Canto explains.

These spherical Brahmanda universes all come from Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) as seen in 2nd painting below.

Each Brahmanda universe surrounds and encases an inner "secondary smaller universe" where Garbhodakashayi Visnu,  Lord Brahma, Lord Siva, along with all the other demigods resides who each manage the many material elements within each "secondary material universe." 

Coming from Garbhodakashayi Visnu, who is deep inside each of the Brahmanda material universes within the "secondary smaller universe" inside them, is Lord Brahma who creates all the planetary systems in the secondary material universe as seen in 5th painting. 

All the inner material universes that are deep inside each Brahmanda, are of different sizes, our inner material universe within our our Brahmanda, is only 4 billion miles in diameter and has 14 planetary systems according to Srimad Bhagavatam's 5th Canto.

Therefore the inner universe our Garbhodakashayi Visnu is in, is very small compared to other universes that are deep inside of their Brahmanda universal shell.

In this way, there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus, Brahmas and Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu (Paramatma or Supersoul), but only ONE Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu)

Each inner material universe deep inside their Brahmanda, is therefore surrounded by, and encased in a massive outer shell or greater universe which is called a Brahmanda that is made up of 7 massive material layers.

As said above, all Brahmanda spherical universes, sometimes called shells or egg looking universes in Srimad Bhagavatam, originates from Maha-Visnu (Karanodakshayi Visnu) as seen in painting.

The first expansion of Lord Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, is Balarama and from Him, all Visnu/Narayana expansions originate.  

In the material creation, Maha Visnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu (Paramatma or Supersoul) all are also expansions of Balarama, manifests.

Srila Prabhupada - "Mahā-viṣṇu, enters. He lies within the Causal Ocean and breathes out innumerable universes, and into each universe the Lord again enters as Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. 

Each universe is in that way created. He still further manifests Himself as Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, and that Viṣṇu enters into everything—even into the minute atom. This fact is explained here. 

He enters into everything. Now, as far as the living entities are concerned, they are impregnated into this material nature, and as a result of their past deeds they take different positions. Thus the activities of this material world begin.

The activities of the different species of living beings are begun from the very moment of the creation. It is not that all is evolved His plenary parts are viṣṇu-tattva, or the Lordship of Godhead. 

From Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the next manifestation is Baladeva (Balarama)

From Baladeva (Balarama) is Saṅkarṣaṇa, from Saṅkarṣaṇa is Nārāyaṇa, from Nārāyaṇa there is the second Saṅkarṣaṇa, and from this Saṅkarṣaṇa the Viṣṇu puruṣa-avatāras. 

The Viṣṇu or the Deity of the quality of goodness in the material world is the puruṣa-avatāra known as Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu or Paramātmā. Brahmā is the deity of rajas (passion), and Śiva of ignorance. 

They are the three departmental heads of the three qualities of this material world. 

The creation is made possible by Brahma's quality of passion and his endeavor, it is maintained by the goodness of Viṣṇu, and when it requires to be destroyed, Lord Śiva does it by the tāṇḍava-nṛtya. 

The materialists and the foolish human beings worship Brahmā and Śiva respectively." (SB, Canto 1:2:23 - purport)

From Maha-Visnu's breathing and through the pores of His skin, all the individual massive universes (Brahmandas) manifest.

The diameter of our outer Brahmanda universal shell is 44 quadrillion 444 trillion 444 billion miles in diameter, or twice that size if the measurement is taken from one side of the inner secondary universe inside the Brahmanda.  

There are many other Brahmanda universes much larger than ours. So, yes ours could be twice that size if measured from the outer edge of our inner material universe.

So lets be clear, deep inside each Brahmanda universal shell is found Garbhodakashayi Visnu, from Him Lord Brahma appears on top of a lotus stem on a lotus flower growing from Garbhodakashayi Visnu's naval.

And from Brahma comes all the different planetary systems within his particular individual material universe (an unlimited number)

As already said, there are billions of Lord Brahmas each managing their own inner material universe deep within their Brahmanda.

Also Maha-Visnu expands again to a third Visnu known as Ksirodakashayi Visnu who is the supersoul that is within the heart of all material bodily vessels that the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are given by Maha-Visnu.

The material bodily vessels the jiva-souls occupy in the material creation are "hired" from Maha Visnu's dreams by the visiting jiva-souls.  

The entire material creation is the dreams of Maha-Visnu according to Srimad Bhagavatam, everything conceivable He dreams - EVERYTHING is covered in Maha-Visnu's dreams.

Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes-

"This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83)

Srila Prabhupada – "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB, Canto 4.29.2b)

Srila Prabhupada – "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972: SB, Canto 2.9.1)

Srila Prabhupada – "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB, Canto 4.29.2b)

The jiva-soul are NOT part of Maha-Visnu's dream, only the material bodily vessel are from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

All material bodies belong to Maha-Visnu that we, jiva-souls, get from Maha-Visnu so we can experience our rebellious material desires while trying to enjoy separate from Krsna in the temporary decaying material creation.

This material creation is NOT the jiva-soul's real home, our real home is Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan in the perpetual spiritual world.

Maha-Visna's dreaming creates the material worlds (Brahmandas) that provides material facilities and material bodies to the jiva-souls who have chosen to enter the material creation.

No jiva souls originate from Maha-Visnu, they instead go through Him after leaving Vaikuntha Prabhupada has explained to us.

Maha-Visnu then plants the jiva-soul in a suitable material body on a suitable planet according to each jiva-soul's material desires.

But the jiva-souls existence in the material creation is also their dream according to Srimad Bhagavatam, a dream within a dream.××

The full potential of the individual marginal living entities (jiva tattva souls) is manifest as an eternal spiritual bodily form that has no beginning point or end.

This means the marginal living entities or jiva tattvas do NOT originate from some nonsense impersonal inactive dormant spark within the Brahmajyoti effulgence as many Guru's from other Sangas and Impersonalist schools preach, who wrongly claim the jiva soul originates from "a plain sheet of uniform consciousness", individual conscious units or jiva souls manifest and grow'.

Every individual marginal living entity (jiva-tattva soul) in the Spiritual World ''as their full spiritual potential'', is an eternal "Person" with a perpetual bodily (vigraha) form that has 78.125%, which is 50 qualities out of Krishna's 64 qualities (100%), and has -

1 - Their own personality separate from Krishna's Personality.
2 - Their own independent identity who can voluntary contribute their service in any devotional way they choose.
3 - Their own unique personal characteristics exclusive to them.
4 - Their own unique sense of self.
5 - Their own abilities and talents and likes and dislikes.
6 - Their own perpetual spiritual bodily form (svarupa) that IS them, and is who each individual jiva soul really is without any beginning or end but is changeable in the Spiritual Planets.

7 - Can reject Krishna anytime they want (although over 90% of jiva souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana choose to NEVER  fall down

This means the jiva souls spiritual bodily (vigraha) form (svarupa) is ALWAYS within the "eternal presence" of Goloka Vrindavana.

The Spiritual realm has no sense of past or future because only the "eternal presence" of Krishna exists there.

Everything  in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are perpetually situated in endless Krishna consciousness pastimes.

This means all jiva souls in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan have a perpetual Spiritual bodily identity that is always there even if they temporarily choose to enter the "past, present and future" of the temporary material creation.

Their "Spiritual bodily identity" is always in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana as blueprint, even when they are in a temporary material bodily vessel confined the material creation.

One has to understand what the "eternal presence" in the Spiritual realm is to understand that last comment. 

Prabhupada explains the original form of the jiva soul?

Yasomatinandana – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form. God is also h7uman form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krishna, two hands, two legs”.

Hari-sauri – “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”

Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul”.

Hari-sauri - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”

Srila Prabhupada I- “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krishna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krishna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krishna as cow, he serves Krishna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

There are five relationships the jiva souls (marginal living entities) have with Krishna explained below.

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you are simply taking from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything in return, that is simply exploitation. (Lecture on Bhagavad Gita Chapter 9 text 2-5, New York, November 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love''. (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 1 Chapter 2 text 6, Delhi, November 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Their (impersonalist) philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

A devotee has a relationship with Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, in five different ways-

1. One may be a devotee in a passive state;

2. One may be a devotee in an active state;

3. One may be a devotee as a friend;

4. One may be a devotee as a parent;

5. One may be a devotee as a conjugal lover.''

Srila Prabhupada explains these 5 relationships in detail in His Books like "Nectar of Devotion".

A "PASSIVE" relationship (number one in above list) with Krishna in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, is an almost "inactive" position the jiva souls can CHOOSE according to their desires ("free will"), such as -

A cloud in the sky,

The Sky 

A blade of grass, 

A tree,

A rock or stone,

A fence,

A chair or bench,

A flag pole and a flag

A roadway, 

A Chariot, etc

The point is, EVERYTHING is alive in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, unlike the mundane dead material creation.

This means EVERYTHING from the shoes on your feet, to the clothes you wear, are all individual jiva souls who have shape shifted as that form because they have chosen to play that particular role in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana.

This is called a "passive" relationship with Krishna.

The ORIGINAL eternal form of the jiva soul, is a body like Krishnas Prabhupada has said, two arms, two legs etc like Krishna has in Vṛndāvana.

This means the 4 armed bodily form the jiva souls have in the Vaikuntha Planets that looks like Vishnu/Narayana Form is NOT the original form.

This also means ALL marginal living entities (jiva-souls) originate from Goloka-Vrindavana. 

And many jiva souls CHOOSE to have that passive (inert, inactive or idle) relationship with Krishna but it is NEVER impersonal.

This means they do not react visibly to something that might be expected of them, like outwardly manifesting emotions or feelings.

Like a blade of grass or a tree is only seen moving in the wind and outwardly showing no effection or passion.

Even though "inwardly" the jiva-soul would soul, as that blade of grass or tree, is ecstatically blissfully completely aware of Krishna’s personal presence, and Krishna is fully aware of those personalities as the the blade of grass and tree they are.

Many jiva souls are therefore passive living objects in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana that do not involve visible reaction or active participation

This is playing a passive or seemingly inactive role in God's Kingdom.

However one should NOT confuse a "passive relationships" in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana with impersonal mundane "inactive nonsense" of the Mayavadis.

The fact is, Krishna's abode is full of diversity where the jiva souls can voluntarily express various kinds of pure loving service to Krishna, from active service of being a Cow herd boy, to inactive service like being a flag on top of a flag pole. 

These relationships with Krishna are also based on reciprocation and loving exchanges too, even if the jiva souls manifest themselves as a cloud in the sky, a bench for Krishna to sit on, or a plate for Krishna to eat off.

It means even if one spends billions of years in the temporary material creation experiencing the cycle of birth and death, when they eventually return home back to home, back to Godhead, it will seem that they had only left the Spiritual World for just for a moment!

In other words, Srila Prabhupada has explained, they NEVER really left in the first place from the viewpoint of Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan's eternal presence of time!

So clearly the full potential of the individual marginal living entities (jiva souls) are manifest perpetually as a spiritual bodily form with 2 arms and 2 legs like Krishnas in Goloka-Vrindavana, and NOT some impersonal inactive dormant spark in the Brahmajyoti effulgence!

The full potential of the marginal living entities perpetual spiritual  bodily form is made from -

I  - sat - eternity
2 - chit - knowledge
3 - ananda - bliss
4 - vigraha - Form.

The highest realization of Brahman is Form. 

Krishna is the original Form and all His Vishnu tattva, Shakti tattva, Shiva tattva and Jiva tattva expansions are also all eternal FORMS (VIGRAHA).

No living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti, their consciousness can only fall to that inactive impersonal condition.

All jiva tattva souls originate (which really means eternal established without beginning or end) from Goloka Vrindavana.

The highest realization of Brahman is that it is held together by Form. 

Krishna is an eternal bodily Form and all His  expansions are also all eternal bodily FORMS in their full potential.

As already emphasised, no marginal living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti. 

Although the marginal living entity, due to the consequences of having free will that allows them to make their own choices in the Spiritual World, CAN fall to that inactive impersonal condition, and exist there in a dormant state for so long that some foolish scholars, pundits, Acharays and Sangas think that the impersonal Brahmajyoti is the origin of the marginal living entity (jiva tattva soul).

The qualities of sat, chit, ananda, vigraha that each marginal living entity has as their bodily form, is part and parcel of their natural eternal constitutional position and ultimately their spiritual bodily svarupa form.

The quality of "free will" allows each individual jiva soul to choose what service THEY want to offer to Krishna without EVER losing THEIR independent expression of free will. 

This is the real meaning of surrender and not try to obliterate or end your individuality, unique personality and free will.

In other words, surrender really means offering the best service YOU choose to do, which may also include what other great devotees humbly request you to do, if YOU choose to accept.

The point made here is, each individual jiva soul is unique, and is completely different from all other jiva souls. Each jiva soul in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, has their own unique personality, sense of self, likes and dislikes.

Each jiva soul is "one of a kind" and their relationship with Krishna is unique and special for them, that no other jiva soul has. 

This is Personalism.

No two jiva souls are the same.

Denying that the jiva soul has their own independent individuality, that includes them experiencing their "own personal sense of self" that is independent, with "their own individual unique abilities to choose" what to offer to Krishna, yet simultaneously dependant on Krishna in the Spiritual Sky, is Impersonalism.

Krishna does NOT interfere with the jiva-soul's free will and their ability to choose for themselves, He never forces a soul to love, serve or surrender to Him.

Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me'. Is it love?" “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that". (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it and enter the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "So God does not interfere with your independence, you have got little independence, you have acquired this quality from your father (God), Krishna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)

Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come here, why are we here?”

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got independence and free will, God does not interfere with your little independence. You forced Krishna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your own risk and you suffer. What can be done?” (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)*