This means the marginal living entities or jiva tattvas do NOT originate from some nonsense impersonal inactive dormant spark within the Brahmajyoti effulgence as many Guru's from other Sangas and Impersonalist schools preach, who wrongly claim the jiva soul originates from "a plain sheet of uniform consciousness", individual conscious units or jiva souls manifest and grow'.
1 - Their own personality separate from Krishna's Personality.
2 - Their own independent identity who can voluntary contribute their service in any devotional way they choose.
3 - Their own unique personal characteristics exclusive to them.
4 - Their own unique sense of self.
5 - Their own abilities and talents and likes and dislikes.
6 - Their own perpetual spiritual bodily form (svarupa) that IS them, and is who each individual jiva soul really is without any beginning or end but is changeable in the Spiritual Planets.
7 - Can reject Krishna anytime they want (although over 90% of jiva souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana choose to NEVER fall down
This means the jiva souls spiritual bodily (vigraha) form (svarupa) is ALWAYS within the "eternal presence" of Goloka Vrindavana.
The Spiritual realm has no sense of past or future because only the "eternal presence" of Krishna exists there.
Everything in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are perpetually situated in endless Krishna consciousness pastimes.
This means the jiva souls spiritual bodily (vigraha) form (svarupa) is ALWAYS within the "eternal presence" of Goloka Vrindavana.
The Spiritual realm has no sense of past or future because only the "eternal presence" of Krishna exists there.
Everything in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are perpetually situated in endless Krishna consciousness pastimes.
This means all jiva souls in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan have a perpetual Spiritual bodily identity that is always there even if they temporarily choose to enter the "past, present and future" of the temporary material creation.
Their "Spiritual bodily identity" is always in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana as blueprint, even when they are in a temporary material bodily vessel confined the material creation.
One has to understand what the "eternal presence" in the Spiritual realm is to understand that last comment.
Prabhupada explains the original form of the jiva soul?
Yasomatinandana – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form. God is also h7uman form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krishna, two hands, two legs”.
Hari-sauri – “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”
Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul”.
Hari-sauri - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”
Srila Prabhupada I- “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krishna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krishna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krishna as cow, he serves Krishna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)
There are five relationships the jiva souls (marginal living entities) have with Krishna explained below.
Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you are simply taking from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything in return, that is simply exploitation. (Lecture on Bhagavad Gita Chapter 9 text 2-5, New York, November 23, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love''. (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 1 Chapter 2 text 6, Delhi, November 12, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - ''Their (impersonalist) philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)
A devotee has a relationship with Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, in five different ways-
1. One may be a devotee in a passive state;
2. One may be a devotee in an active state;
3. One may be a devotee as a friend;
4. One may be a devotee as a parent;
5. One may be a devotee as a conjugal lover.''
Srila Prabhupada explains these 5 relationships in detail in His Books like "Nectar of Devotion".
A "PASSIVE" relationship (number one in above list) with Krishna in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, is an almost "inactive" position the jiva souls can CHOOSE according to their desires ("free will"), such as -
A cloud in the sky,
The Sky
A blade of grass,
A tree,
A rock or stone,
A fence,
A chair or bench,
A flag pole and a flag
A roadway,
A Chariot, etc
The point is, EVERYTHING is alive in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, unlike the mundane dead material creation.
This means EVERYTHING from the shoes on your feet, to the clothes you wear, are all individual jiva souls who have shape shifted as that form because they have chosen to play that particular role in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana.
This is called a "passive" relationship with Krishna.
The ORIGINAL eternal form of the jiva soul, is a body like Krishnas Prabhupada has said, two arms, two legs etc like Krishna has in Vṛndāvana.
This means the 4 armed bodily form the jiva souls have in the Vaikuntha Planets that looks like Vishnu/Narayana Form is NOT the original form.
This also means ALL marginal living entities (jiva-souls) originate from Goloka-Vrindavana.
And many jiva souls CHOOSE to have that passive (inert, inactive or idle) relationship with Krishna but it is NEVER impersonal.
This means they do not react visibly to something that might be expected of them, like outwardly manifesting emotions or feelings.
Like a blade of grass or a tree is only seen moving in the wind and outwardly showing no effection or passion.
Even though "inwardly" the jiva-soul would soul, as that blade of grass or tree, is ecstatically blissfully completely aware of Krishna’s personal presence, and Krishna is fully aware of those personalities as the the blade of grass and tree they are.
Many jiva souls are therefore passive living objects in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana that do not involve visible reaction or active participation
This is playing a passive or seemingly inactive role in God's Kingdom.
However one should NOT confuse a "passive relationships" in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana with impersonal mundane "inactive nonsense" of the Mayavadis.
The fact is, Krishna's abode is full of diversity where the jiva souls can voluntarily express various kinds of pure loving service to Krishna, from active service of being a Cow herd boy, to inactive service like being a flag on top of a flag pole.
These relationships with Krishna are also based on reciprocation and loving exchanges too, even if the jiva souls manifest themselves as a cloud in the sky, a bench for Krishna to sit on, or a plate for Krishna to eat off.
It means even if one spends billions of years in the temporary material creation experiencing the cycle of birth and death, when they eventually return home back to home, back to Godhead, it will seem that they had only left the Spiritual World for just for a moment!
In other words, Srila Prabhupada has explained, they NEVER really left in the first place from the viewpoint of Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan's eternal presence of time!
So clearly the full potential of the individual marginal living entities (jiva souls) are manifest perpetually as a spiritual bodily form with 2 arms and 2 legs like Krishnas in Goloka-Vrindavana, and NOT some impersonal inactive dormant spark in the Brahmajyoti effulgence!
The full potential of the marginal living entities perpetual spiritual bodily form is made from -
I - sat - eternity
2 - chit - knowledge
3 - ananda - bliss
4 - vigraha - Form.
The highest realization of Brahman is Form.
Krishna is the original Form and all His Vishnu tattva, Shakti tattva, Shiva tattva and Jiva tattva expansions are also all eternal FORMS (VIGRAHA).
No living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti, their consciousness can only fall to that inactive impersonal condition.
All jiva tattva souls originate (which really means eternal established without beginning or end) from Goloka Vrindavana.
The highest realization of Brahman is that it is held together by Form.
Krishna is an eternal bodily Form and all His expansions are also all eternal bodily FORMS in their full potential.
As already emphasised, no marginal living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti.
Although the marginal living entity, due to the consequences of having free will that allows them to make their own choices in the Spiritual World, CAN fall to that inactive impersonal condition, and exist there in a dormant state for so long that some foolish scholars, pundits, Acharays and Sangas think that the impersonal Brahmajyoti is the origin of the marginal living entity (jiva tattva soul).
The qualities of sat, chit, ananda, vigraha that each marginal living entity has as their bodily form, is part and parcel of their natural eternal constitutional position and ultimately their spiritual bodily svarupa form.
The quality of "free will" allows each individual jiva soul to choose what service THEY want to offer to Krishna without EVER losing THEIR independent expression of free will.
This is the real meaning of surrender and not try to obliterate or end your individuality, unique personality and free will.
In other words, surrender really means offering the best service YOU choose to do, which may also include what other great devotees humbly request you to do, if YOU choose to accept.
The point made here is, each individual jiva soul is unique, and is completely different from all other jiva souls. Each jiva soul in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, has their own unique personality, sense of self, likes and dislikes.
Each jiva soul is "one of a kind" and their relationship with Krishna is unique and special for them, that no other jiva soul has.
This is Personalism.
No two jiva souls are the same.
Denying that the jiva soul has their own independent individuality, that includes them experiencing their "own personal sense of self" that is independent, with "their own individual unique abilities to choose" what to offer to Krishna, yet simultaneously dependant on Krishna in the Spiritual Sky, is Impersonalism.
Krishna does NOT interfere with the jiva-soul's free will and their ability to choose for themselves, He never forces a soul to love, serve or surrender to Him.
Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me'. Is it love?" “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that". (Washington DC July 8, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it and enter the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "So God does not interfere with your independence, you have got little independence, you have acquired this quality from your father (God), Krishna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)
Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come here, why are we here?”
Srila Prabhupada – "You have got independence and free will, God does not interfere with your little independence. You forced Krishna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your own risk and you suffer. What can be done?” (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)*
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