No living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti, they can only fall to that inactive dormant condition.
1 - Their own individual personality separate from Krsna's Personality.
2 - Their own independent identity.
3 - Their own unique character exclusive to them.
4 - Their own unique independent sense of self from Krsna.
5 - Their own abilities and talents, and likes and dislikes.
6 - Their own perpetual ORIGINAL 2 armed spiritual bodily Form (svarupa) that IS them eternally without beginning or end, but can voluntarily changed to unlimited others bodily forms in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.
So clearly the full potential of the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is manifest as a spiritual bodily form (person) serving Krsna.
I - sat - eternity
2 - chit - knowledge
3 - ananda - bliss
4 - vigraha - Form.
The highest realization of Brahman is Form.
Krsna is eternal Form and all His Visnu-tattva, Sakti-tattva, Siva-tattva and Jiva-tattva category expansions are also all eternal FORMS (VIGRAHA).
No living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti, the jiva-souls can only fall to that inactive impersonal condition, but no jiva-souls originate from there as some foolishly believe.
The quality of "free will" allows each individual jiva-soul to choose what service THEY want to offer to Krsna without EVER loosing THEIR independent expression of free will.
This is the real meaning of surrender and not try to obliterate or end your individuality, unique personality and free will.
In other words, surrender really means òffering the best service YOU choose to do, which may also include what other great devotees humbly request you to do, if YOU choose to accept.
The point made here is, each individual jiva soul is unique, and is completely different from all other jiva-souls.
Each individual jiva-soul is a perpetual PERSON as a bodily form without any beginning or end.
This means the jiva-soul's spiritual bodily form is ALWAYS within the "eternal presence" of Goloka Vrindavana because the Spiritual realm has no sense of past or future because there is only the eternal presence of Krsna there.
Everything there is situated in endless Krsna conscious pastimes, meaning all jiva-souls have ALWAYS been in Goloka-Vrindavan, even if they sometimes choose to enter the past, present and future of the temporary material creation.
Even if one spends billions of years in the temporary material creation, when they return home back to Godhead, it will seem as if they had gone there for just a moment. In other words, Prabhupada has explained, they NEVER really left!
This means the jiva-soul's spiritual bodily form is ALWAYS within the "eternal presence" of Goloka Vrindavana because the Spiritual realm has no sense of past or future because there is only the eternal presence of Krsna there.
Everything there is situated in endless Krsna conscious pastimes, meaning all jiva-souls have ALWAYS been in Goloka-Vrindavan, even if they sometimes choose to enter the past, present and future of the temporary material creation.
Even if one spends billions of years in the temporary material creation, when they return home back to Godhead, it will seem as if they had gone there for just a moment. In other words, Prabhupada has explained, they NEVER really left!
So clearly the full potential of the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is manifest as a spiritual bodily form (person) serving Krsna.
I - sat - eternity
2 - chit - knowledge
3 - ananda - bliss
4 - vigraha - Form.
The highest realization of Brahman is Form.
Krsna is eternal Form and all His Visnu-tattva, Sakti-tattva, Siva-tattva and Jiva-tattva category expansions are also all eternal FORMS (VIGRAHA).
No living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti, the jiva-souls can only fall to that inactive impersonal condition, but no jiva-souls originate from there as some foolishly believe.
Also the qualities of sat, chit, ananda, vigraha that each marginal living entity are, is part and parcel of their natural eternal constitutional position and ultimately their spiritual bodily svarupa form.
The quality of "free will" allows each individual jiva-soul to choose what service THEY want to offer to Krsna without EVER loosing THEIR independent expression of free will.
This is the real meaning of surrender and not try to obliterate or end your individuality, unique personality and free will.
In other words, surrender really means òffering the best service YOU choose to do, which may also include what other great devotees humbly request you to do, if YOU choose to accept.
The point made here is, each individual jiva soul is unique, and is completely different from all other jiva-souls.
Each jiva-soul in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana has their own unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality, sense of self, likes and dislikes.
Each jiva-soul is "one of a kind" and their relationship with Krsna is unique and special for them as a person that no other jiva-soul has. This is Personalism. No two jiva-souls are the same.
Denying that the jiva-soul has their own independent individuality, that includes them experiencing their own personal sense of self being independent, yet simultaneously dependant on Krsna in the spiritual sky, is Impersonalism.
Krsna does NOT interfere with the jiva-soul's free will, He never forces a jiva-soul to love, serve or surrender to Him.
Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me'. Is it love?" “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it and enter the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "So God does not interfere with your independence, you have got little independence, you have acquired this quality from your father (God), Krsna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)
Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come here, why are we here?”
Srila Prabhupada – "You have got independence and free will, God does not interfere with your little independence. You forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your own risk and you suffer. What can be done?” (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)
Each jiva-soul is "one of a kind" and their relationship with Krsna is unique and special for them as a person that no other jiva-soul has. This is Personalism. No two jiva-souls are the same.
Denying that the jiva-soul has their own independent individuality, that includes them experiencing their own personal sense of self being independent, yet simultaneously dependant on Krsna in the spiritual sky, is Impersonalism.
Krsna does NOT interfere with the jiva-soul's free will, He never forces a jiva-soul to love, serve or surrender to Him.
Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me'. Is it love?" “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it and enter the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "So God does not interfere with your independence, you have got little independence, you have acquired this quality from your father (God), Krsna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)
Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come here, why are we here?”
Srila Prabhupada – "You have got independence and free will, God does not interfere with your little independence. You forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your own risk and you suffer. What can be done?” (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)
As said above the ORIGINAL eternal form of the jiva-soul is a bodily form like Krsnas Prabhupada has said, two arms, two legs, etc, like Krsna has in Vṛndāvana.
This means the 4 armed bodily form the jiva-souls have in the Vaikuntha Planets that looks like Vishnu/Narayana Form is NOT the original form because ALL marginal living entities (jiva-souls) originate from Goloka Vrindavana, from their original two armed form.
Devotee – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So, God is also like human form. Here you see, Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri – “How do we understand, then that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”
Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with a blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."
Hari-sauri - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”
Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; then they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna; he becomes flower and voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable yet a fact."(Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)**^^
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