Sunday, September 20, 2020

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange. When these things are transacted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things MUST be there''. (Evening Darsana, August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Love between the devotee, Guru and Krishna is NEVER selfish, inconsiderate, forceful, threatening or impersonal, which means a one-way master/servant controlling relationship of just obeying. 

This is because loving devotion between individuals is NEVER "one-way", love can only exist when there is two who have a reciprocal relationship of loving exchanges.

It is NEVER a demanding relationship of obedience where the devotee is told by a so called guru to just obey without personal input and intelligent inquiry.

This kind of "surrender" is impersonalism because the personality and character of the individual jiva soul's natural marginal attributes, are suppressed due to denying the jiva souls natural expression of freedom in the Spiritual World or Kingdom of God.

Free will ONLY fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and is greatly restricted in the material creation to the point it does not exist in lower species of life and only expressed in a minor way in the human form of life.

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange. When these things are transacted, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things MUST be there''. (Evening Darsana, August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Gurus and So called Spiritual leaders who preach that you do not even need to think this way for your self claiming they will do the thinking for you, are bogus dictatorial impersonalists and bullies.

Real love or service is ALWAYS based on a two-way street that includes individual contributions and personal inputs that can only be real and selfless when one can express their own independent individuality or free will. 

Without free will and the ability to reciprocate, one is no better than dead stone that can never receive or give love.

Krishna ALWAYS serves His pure devotees far more than they can EVER serve Him!

The mundane cold loveless "slave/master" relationship of convenience between individuals NEVER exists in the REAL Goloka Vrindavana or Vaikuntha.

In the Spiritual world there is ALWAYS deep loving exchanges of emotions and reciprocation going on between Krishna and his dear friends, family members and inhabitants of Vrindavana, such reciprocation is the foundation of Spiritual life.

It is NEVER a one way street of just obey, obey obey and do what you are told, that will only deny one's individual input, contribution and unique abilities. 

No two jiva-souls are the same in the Spiritual Sky, every jiva-soul is "unique" with their own personality, individuality and ''special'' relationship with Krishna.

How boring would Goloka-Vrindavan be if every soul in God's Kingdom cooked food preparation in exactly the same way being like a robot in an assembly line.

That version of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, or God's so called Kingdom, I reject because it is IMPERSONALISM!!

That "impersonal" version of "surrender", prominent in the 1970s with many nonsense religious cults and sangas, is just a "mindless" concocted "slave mentality" dangerous version of religion, where so called cult or religious and congregation members are encouraged to extinguish their individual identity, free will and sense of self in "the name of surrender" and "autocracy", and just do what they are told to do. 

No, love between the devotee and Krishna or Guru is NEVER selfish, impersonal or just "one way" like that.

This kind of impersonalism DENIES loving reciprocation and individual contributions between Krishna and all his associates.

The fact is, this kind of impersonal mindless "surrender", that denies one's personal contributions and sense of individual self, does NOT exist in the Kingdom of God of Goloka-Vrindavan or the Vaikuntha planets.

On the spiritual level of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, one never denies, or attempts to extinguish their free will or individuality, thinking that is becoming selfless, or is the meaning of "surrender".

Being the unique person one eternally is, and having the free will that allows one to give the very best of their character in the service of the Lord, is what selflessness and surrender really means, and is the basis of who one really is as that independent person.

Having "free will" is the eternal constitutional make up of EVERY "marginal living entity", and is the standard for all jiva-souls to follow and understand.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

The jiva souls in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana therefore are forever expanding their sense of individuality with personal offerings based on selfless loving reciprocation with Krishna, it is NEVER a one sided relation with the Lord.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a one way street where surrender to Krishna takes away one's sense of self, individuality and personal contributions.

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it in the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, sense of self and unique characteristics that THEY only individually have, that is part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities make up as the independent eternal "person" they are.

Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence”. (Conversation in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples)

Devotee – "But In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”

Srila Prabhupada - “That means YOU lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)**















Sunday, September 13, 2020

Association between the devotee, Guru and Krsna is never a selfish, impersonal one-sided "puppet on a string like domination."

Real love or service is based on a "two-way" expression where the student Vaisnava is carefully nurtured to achieve the personal goal of voluntary loving exchanges that are the foundations of pure devotional service. 

Genuine voluntary loving exchanges with Krsna can only be fully expressed when the jiva-souls realize they each have their independent individual freedom and unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality endorsed with free will. 

Without free will, one would never have the vision to intelligently contribute in their relationship with Kṛṣṇa, increasing and expanding one's awareness of who they are as a contributing independent marginal living entity (jiva-soul).

So without free will, one is no better than dead stone that is unable to voluntarily receive or give love.   

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will. But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Swedish man - "Is there free will?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, just like you are sitting here. If you don’t like, you can go away. That’s your free will. There is free will, we are part and parcel of God, therefore we have got minute quantity of freedom." (Temple lecture Stockholm Sweden 1974)

Srila Prabhupada explains "free will," and why the jiva-souls always have their free will, but only fully realized in Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets.

Having free will in the spiritual world is necessary for the jiva-souls, so they can voluntarily express themselves in the unique service of their choice to Krsna in a "two-sided" relationship of loving exchanges, cooperation and reciprocation.

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are "two-persons," where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. Therefore love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, there MUST be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, so there must be lover, there must be beloved. We must understand that love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good, that is NOT love, that is exploitation and forced obedience. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Srila Prabhupada quotes 1966 - 1974, Vaniquotes)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (Lecture on SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Bali Mardana - "An example of free will is someone can choose Kṛṣṇa or turn away? Is that an example of free will?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, because if you accept Kṛṣṇa, then you must follow what Kṛṣṇa says. If you don't follow Kṛṣṇa, then what is the use of talking of Kṛṣṇa? If he accepts Kṛṣṇa, he must abide by the injunction of Kṛṣṇa." (Morning Walk, Jan 22, 1974, Hawaii)

Krsna always serves His pure devotees far more than they can EVER serve Him! However, such pure devotees are extremely rare in the material world.

The mundane cold loveless slave/master "impersonal relationship of convenience" between individuals does not exists in Goloka Vrindavana or Vaikuntha (The Kingdoms of God).

In the spiritual world there are ALWAYS deep loving exchanges of emotions and reciprocation going on between Krsna and His dear friends, family members and inhabitants of Vrindavana. 

Reciprocation and loving exchanges between two are the only foundation of spiritual life because "love." can never exist in a "one-sided" relationship.

It is NEVER a "one-way street" of just obey, obey obey and do what you are told, no, that impersonal reaction will only deny and restrict the jiva-soul's individual voluntary contributions of sharing of one's unique abilities. 

No two jiva-souls are the same in the Spiritual Sky (both spiritual and material worlds), every jiva-soul is "unique" with their own personality, individuality in their relationship with Krsna.

How boring would Goloka-Vrindavan be if every jiva-soul in God's Kingdom cooked food preparation in exactly the same way being like a robot in an assembly line.

That version of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, or God's so called Kingdom, should be rejected because it is IMPERSONALISM!!

That "impersonal" version of "surrender", prominent in the 1970s with many nonsense religious cults and sangas, is just a "mindless" concocted dangerous version of religion, where the cult congregational members are encouraged to extinguish their individual identity, free will and voluntarily acting as an independent contributing PERSON in the name of surrender, and instead just being told what to do and how think. 

No, love between the devotee, Krsna and Guru can NEVER exist in a selfish, domineering relationship, that is a "one-sided" and impersonal like that.

That kind of unproductive impersonalism denies loving reciprocation, voluntary contributions and individual personal exchanges of intimacy between Krsna and his servants.

The fact is, this kind of nonsense mindless surrender that denies personal contributions and self-expression, certainly does NOT exist in the Kingdom of God of Goloka-Vrindavan or the Vaikuntha planets.

On the spiritual level of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, one never denies, or attempts to extinguish their free will or individuality, thinking that is becoming selfless, or is the real meaning of "surrender."

Being Krsna's mindless drone by giving up your free will is NOT the meaning of surrender, it is actually spiritual suicide.

Being the unique person one eternally is, and having the free will that allows one to give the very best of their character in the service of the Lord, is what selflessness and surrender really means, and is the basis of who one really is as that independent person in both Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets.

Having "free will" is the eternal constitutional make up of EVERY "marginal living entity (jiva-soul)", and is the standard for all to follow and understand.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana therefore are forever expanding their sense of individuality with personal offerings based on selfless loving reciprocation with Krsna.

It is NEVER a "one-sided" puppet/master impersonal relation with the Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a one way street where surrender to Krsna takes away one's sense of self, individuality and personal contributions.

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it in the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, sense of self and unique characteristics that THEY only individually have, that is part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities make up as the independent eternal "person" they are.

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence." (Conversation in Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Devotee – "But In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand you love me, you love me, you love me, is that love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love?" So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. "You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).*^*.









Krsna is the source of all Narayana/Visnu forms of God who are further expansions from Krsna's first expansion Balarama. However, Krsna is always the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

The original and similtaneously infinite Krsna eternally resides in His personal abode known as Goloka-Vrindavan and NEVER leaves.

Srila Prabhupada - "Kṛṣṇa as His original childhood form NEVER leaves Vṛndāvana, all the forms of Kṛṣṇa that appear elsewhere are His Viṣṇu-tattva expansions." (BG, Ch 10 text 37)

Srila Prabhupada - "The original Lord Kṛṣṇa never leaves Goloka Vṛndāvana. All the plenary expansions are one and the same Viṣṇu-tattva, and there is no difference in Their potency." (SB, Canto 3 Ch 1 Text 34)

Srila Prabhupada - "Kṛṣṇa is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead, and Baladeva (Balarama) is Kṛṣṇa's immediate expansion. Because Kṛṣṇa NEVER leaves Vṛndāvana, all the forms of Kṛṣṇa that appear elsewhere are His expansions." (BG, Ch 10 Text 37)

However, when Krsna wants to enter the material world, He personally does not come as His original form but instead sends His first expansion Balarama, who plays the role of Krsna in the material creation as explained above.

When Krsna seemingly enters the material world, it is actually from His first expansion Balarama that all the unlimited Visnu-tattva expansions expand from, including the Visnu-tattva expansion who plays the role of Krsna in a facsimile version of Goloka-Vrindavana in the material world. 

Two major difference between the Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual world and its facsimile in the material world, is Krsna never kills demons in the spiritual world, and the gopis and other inhabitants of Vṛndāvana never feel separation from Kṛṣṇa in the spiritual world, that only happens in the Goloka-Vrindavana facsimile in the material world.

Krsna through Balarama, further expands Himself as a Visnu who plays the role of Krsna outside the spiritual world in the material world.  

In the spiritual world (Goloka-Vrindavana), Balarama is the older brother of Krsna which is a paradox because Krsna is the Supreme of Godhead and the cause of ALL causes.  

Krsna is the first therefore the original and for infinity is the source of all the unlimited Narayana/Visnu forms of God, each with their own name that gives insight into their particular pastime.

The Visnu/Narayana expansions reside in an unlimited number of perpetual Vaikuntha planets that surround Krsna's central abode of Goloka-Vrindavana all together taking up 75% of the Spiritual Sky)

Krsna further expands, via His first Visnu-tattva expansion Balarama as Maha-Visnu (Karanodakshayi Visnu) who creates and manages the unlimited temporary material universes called Brahmandas that take up 25% of the Spiritual Sky.

These unlimited number of Brahmandas are coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu through His breathing and pores.

Each Brahmanda universe is massive in size and each houses a "secondary smaller" spherical material universe inside of them.

Each individual material universe’s outer Brahmanda covering is made up of material elements (both subtle and gross)

Each massive Brahmanda material universe covers, encases and surrounds the inner material universe that is deep inside them with 7 layers of material elements.

Maha-Visnu expands again as Garbhodakashayi Visnu who creates each secondary material universal sphere deep inside each Brahmanda.

Then from Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Brahma manifests who creates the different planetary systems within each inner secondary material universe.

There is only one Maha-Visnu however, there are unlimited Garbhodakashayi Visnus and Brahmas who are in their particular secondary material universe.

Due to the massive material elements that make up the outer Brahmanda universe, no one inside their inner material secondary universe can see outside of their own universe Srimad Bhagavatam explains.

This means from within our small secondary material universe inside our Brahmanda, we cannot see the billions of other Brahmandas around us.

Also each secondary material universe deep inside their Brahmanda, has a different amount of planetary systems according to Srimad Bhagavatam basedon how many heads their Lord Brahma has.

In other words, the Brahmanda universe and its inner secondary material universe inside it, all come in different sizes because some Brahmas have 4 heads, 20 heads, 50 heads, 1000 heads, even 100,000 heads, all inconceivable to the non-devotees.

Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) is sleeping and DREAMING the activities within each of the secondary material universes that are deep within each of the unlimited number of Brahmanda universes.

Those dreams Maha-Visnu has, are all the activities happening within each Garbhodakashayi Visnu's secondary universes.

In painting below Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) is seen laying down sleeping and Garbhodakashayi Visnu is seen within each of His Brahmanda universes.

When Maha-Visnu dreams, He first creates the entire material universe known as the Maha-tattva (matter) which takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti,

As said above the other 75% is the active perpetual spiritual world (anti-matter) that is ever fresh, always youthful and never ending, known as the eternal Vaikuntha planets of Visnu and Krsna's central abode of Goloka-Vrindavan.

Within Maha-Visnu's 25% of the Spiritual Sky called the temporary material world (mahat-tattva), we find it is always in a state of decay, decline, impermanence, birth, disease, old age and death requiring constant maintenance.

Each eternal individual jiva-soul who chooses to enter the material creation, are forced to experience repeated birth and death by possessing a material bodily vessel, a temporary material body or container that temporarily houses the individual jiva-soul.

The visiting eternal individual jiva-souls in the material creation take repeated births again and again and again because each material body they are in is temporary and subject to getting old, wearing out, breaking down and eventually ceasing to operate.

The conclusion is-

1 - Within this temporary material creation we find unlimited individual massive single Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu.

2 - And deep inside each of those massive Brahmanda universes, there is a "secondary smaller material universe" where Maha-Visnu expands Himself as Garbhodakashayi Visnu in each one.

3 - And from Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Lord Brahma appears from His naval at the top of a lotus flower in each secondary material universe.

4 - Then Lord Brahma builds the many planetary systems inside each of the inner secondary universes deep inside their individual Brahmanda that can be 14 planetary systems like in our secondary material universe (our Brahma has 4 heads) or many, many more planetary systems depending on how many heads their Lord Brahma has.

As explained above, the number of planetary systems deep inside each Brahmanda's "secondary material universe", vary in size, some larger and some smaller than others.

Our material universe within our Brahmanda has 14 planetary systems in it, and is considered a small material universe explained in Srimad Bhagavatam as being only 4 billion miles in diameter.

Some Vedic Cosmologists think this figure of 4 billion miles in diameter describing our material universe inside our Brahmanda, is way to small of a figure.

Many scholars suggest the figure of 4 billion miles in diameter (500 million yojanas), as described in the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, is really a code that needs decoding because they claim just our solar system alone is said to be 22 billion miles in diameter, and that the planet Pluto is 5 billion miles from our earth planet, recently visited by a NASA space-craft.

Another answer is the measurement of ''space and time'' is different on each planetary system, just like the fabric of "space-time" moves at a different rate in each of the 14 planetary systems.

For example, 100 earth years on Brahmaloka, the highest planetary system out of the 14 systems, is 311 trillion and 40 billion human years long experienced on our Earth planet.

As also said above, other "secondary material universes" inside their Brahmanda, have many, many more planetary systems in them than just 14, and are obviously much bigger than our mere 4 billion miles in diameter.

The fact is, as explained above the size of each Brahmanda and their inner secondary material universe, depends on the how many heads Lord Brahma has, some Lord Brahmas, like ours, has only 4 heads, while other Brahma's within their universe inside their Brahmanda, may have 10, 20, 50, 500, 1000, 100,000 or even a million or more heads.

In this way, all the quadrillions of Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of the sleeping Maha-Visnu (as seen in painting below), each have a "secondary inner material universe" deep inside them as seen in painting below.

Each massive Brahmanda outer universe has 7 material coverings or layers that surround and enclose each of the inner secondary material universe, this means the massive outer Brahmanda surrounding universe we are deep within, is 44 quadrillion 444 trillion 444 billion miles in diameter.

This explanation maybe the full size of the Brahmanda or could be just the size from the outer edge of the inner secondary material universe.

If that is true then the full size of our Brahmanda is double the figure mentioned above.

In the Srimad Bhagavatam Bhu-Mandala is described as the “earth mandala” (not to be confused with our small earth globe), is a disk 500 million yojanas in diameter (4 billion miles in diameter)

The word ''earth'' has many meanings.

For example, our small earth global round sphere is only 24,901 miles in circumference and is 7,917.5 miles in diameter, it is NOT Bhu-Mandala.

Our "secondary material universe" is 500 million yojanas (4 billion miles) in diameter or 12.6 billion miles in circumference.

A yojana is a unit of distance about 8 miles long. 

So the diameter of our "secondary material universe" is about 4 billion miles in diameter.

Our earth planet is NOT flat! It is a round global sphere.

Srila Prabhupada - "On the ground our earth looks flat but when you go up you will see our earth planet is a ball." (Lecture New York City 1966)

The Sanskrit word "dvīpa" has two meanings

1 - "Islands" or "continents" on a planet

2 - "Globes or spheres" in outer space.

Bhu-Mandala is marked by circular features designated as islands (dvipas that can also mean planets) and oceans.

Srila Prabhupada -"The "planets" are called "dvīpas". Outer space is like an ocean of air. Just as there are islands in the watery ocean, these planets in the ocean of space are called dvīpas, or islands in outer space." (CC Madhya 20.218, Purport)

Therefore, Bhu-Mandala (which is really the 4 billion diameter secondary material universe) is far too big to be our small earth globe. 

However, this does describe our small single secondary material universe with it's 14 planetary systems that are deep inside our surrounding Brahmanda.

Therefore, the 14 planetary systems deep within our surrounding Brahmanda, would fit in the circumference of Bhu-Mandala (4 billion miles in diameter, which is 500,000,000 yojanas in diameter)

The individual jiva-souls are eternal, they have no beginning point, nor will their existence ever end. Therefore, if they choose, they can stay in the temporary decaying material universe's cycles of annihilation and creations, for almost an infinity! 

Or make the right choice and return back home, back to Godhead (Goloka-Vrindavana where there is no birth, disease, old age and death.

When Lord Brahma dies after 100 of his years (311 trillion and 40 billion human years), there is an equal period of his life span of 311 trillion, 40 billion human years where nothing living exists, a gap in space-time where everything in the material universe remains dormant for that enormous amount of time.

Then the next material creation of Brahmanda's manifest from Maha-Visnu (Karanadakashayi Visnu)

All the eternal individual jiva-souls have merged as "individual sparks" temporarily into the Body of Karanadakashayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) and remain that way until the next creation of Brahmandas appear when they are again created from Maha-Visnu's dreaming spiritual Body as seen in painting below.

In other words, in the next new creation of Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu, all the dormant eternal individual jiva-souls awaken and continue on again within a "secondary material universe" that is deep inside each Brahmanda from where they left off in the previous inner secondary material universe.

As explained above, each secondary material universe is deep within each of the massive surrounding Brahmanda outer universes that all lasts for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years, or the life span of Lord Brahma.

It is important to understand at the annihilation of each Brahmanda universe, and its inner secondary universe, Garbhodakashayi Visnu temporarily merges back as one with Maha-Visnu until the next Brahmanda universes manifests from the breathing and pores of Maha-Visnu.

Then the process repeats itself, the sleeping Maha-Visnu (Karanadakashayi Visnu) expands Himself into the inner secondary universe that is deep inside each Brahmanda as Garbhodakashayi Visnu that is in the Centre of each Brahmanda universe.

The eternal individual jiva-souls are suspended in ''inactivity'' (dormant) within the Body of Karanadakashayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu) for 311 trillion 40 billion human years.

The jiva-souls re-emerge and continue on (their karma) from where they left off in the previous creation.*××*






Saturday, September 5, 2020

The philosophy of ''I am you, you are me, and we are all together'' - is Mayavadi (Impersonalism) that claims an "all-one consciousness" of the universe. Therefore this "all-one consciousness" contained in material bodily vessels, is compared to air trapped in a jar then released and merges back into the "all-oneness of the atmosphere".

We are all spiritual personalities (souls) that ARE a spiritual bodily svarupa form eternally, that IS individual living anti-matter beings.

The Spiritual bodily form has nothing to do with the mundane decomposing matter found ONLY in the temporary material universe.

Such mundane matter covers the anti-material soul with various external material vessels, provided to those souls who foolishly have chosen to enter the material creation.

Therefore we are the anti-material soul that becomes encased in a material bodily container.

Technically the individual life force or soul is called the jiva-soul,  jiva-tattva or jivatma.

Our real home therefore is NOT this material creation! We are not suppose to be here.

Our real perpetual home is in one of the unlimited Vaikuntha Planets, or in Goloka-Vrindavana as seen in the painting below.

"Beware of Darkness"

Such "darkness" is called impersonalism or Mayavadi teachings.

Impersonal ignorance foolishly claims we are "all-one" with the universe's so called "all-one pervasive consciousness".

The nonsense philosophy of - ''I am you, you are me, and we are all together'' - is Mayavadi (Impersonalism) philosophy.

John Lennon also opens his 1967 Beatle's LSD inspired song "I am the Walrus" with this "all-one" nonsense philosophy.

In the song, he claims he is "EVERYONE" because ultimately, he foolishly believed, there is only ONE all-pervasive consciousness.

However, that all-pervasive consciousness is confined or contained in different material bodily vessels one at a time, yet are all existing together because each material body is in their own dimension of space-time, separate from the surrounding  all-pervasive oneness of the material universes  space-time.

These dimensional times zones in the fabric of space-time  allows each material bodily vessel to exist in their own dimension of space-time and have a "seemingly" independent existence.

This dangerous "impersonal philosophy" of "all one consciousness" claims we are only individuals while the "all-pervasive life force" is contained in a material bodily vessel.

Impersonalists do not see the life force as individual units or jiva souls like Vaishnavas do.

Impersonalists see the universe as one all-pervasive consciousness, or one individual with unlimited personalities due to being contained in material bodily vessels.

And when that "life force" is released from the material bodily vessel it is in, the life force merges back into the "all oneness" of this all pervasive consciousness like air released from a jar merges back into the surrounding oneness of air.

Therefore this "all-one consciousness" contained in material bodily vessels, is compared to air trapped in a jar then released and merges back into the "all-oneness of the atmosphere" 

To the occupier of the material bodily container, this means there really is no individual jiva souls.

This is very dangerous impersonal philosophy one should be aware of.

No, the life force or soul is NOT part of an ''all one consciousness" that becomes only individuals while contained in a material bodily vessel.

Therefore, you are NOT me and I am not you and everyone else separated by only the Body we are presently in.

An important philosophical point to realise in our understanding of personalism and individuality of the jiva-soul or jiva-tattva.

The fact is, we are all individual independent units AS an eternal spiritual bodily form, that is the full potential of the individual marginal living entity called the individual jiva-souls (jiva-tattva)

Srila Prabhupada said in a lecture in Melbourne Australia in 1974 that the jiva-soul, AS its original and eternal position, has 2 arms, to legs like Krishna in their original home of Goloka-Vrindavana, and can later enter the Vaikuntha Planets where they and Lord Vishnu has 4 arms.*













Thursday, September 3, 2020

The correct understanding of "free will," is knowing the meaning of surrender to Krsna and the freedom to experience genuine loving exchanges and reciprocation, are part and parcel of every marginal living entities (jiva-souls) eternal constitution that has NOT been fully understood.

The correct understanding of free will, surrender and genuine loving voluntary exchanges and reciprocation between devotees, is not maturely understood during these early pioneering years within ISKCON.

The subject of free will, surrender and loving exchanges is often misunderstood, ignored or overlooked. 

Many over the years have foolishly claimed that "surrendering" to Krsna means giving up your "free will" and self expression in the spiritual world, and let Krsna do all the thinking for you eternally like a puppet is controlled be strings.

I eventually learnt that such mindless philosophy was dangerous nonsense because if we have no free will, then we are no better than dead stone and such philosophy is really impersonalism.

The following quotes are from Srila Prabhupada regarding surrender, free will and love

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will. But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love?" (Teheran, Iran, Aug 9th, 1976)

Real love or Bhakti is a two-way street based on selfless devotion to God.

Loving expressions on the highest level is achieved by volunteering to work or serve in Krsna's plan under the instructions of a His bonafide spiritual master.

And by helping the spiritual Master bring back all the fallen jiva-souls trapped in this mundane material creation, and encourage them to return back home, back to Godhead.

Choosing to serve the servants of the servants of the servants of Krsna is the highest expression of selflessness and love of God.

But first one must understand who they really are as an individual jiva-soul, which is NOT the material bodily vessel they are covered by within the material world, but the eternal individual jiva-soul (person) within the material body, and an eternal servant of God, who perpetually has free will in the spiritual world with their own independent unique individual of identity and personality separate from Krsna's Personality.

Loving relationships are always a "two-way" street based on reciprocation, loving exchanges and voluntary participation in the Kingdom of God.

The expression of real love or service is never a slave domineering mindless one-way "master/ slave servant" relationship in the spiritual world that only destroys one's free will, sense of individual self and allowing one to have the ability to offer their best personal spiritual contributions of individual talents and abilities in both Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.

Of course in the material creation there is almost no free will while trapped in the species of material life, there is only the instinct of eating, sleeping, mating and defending.

The human species are also directed by karmic reactions because in the human form the living entities are responsible for their actions good or bad. 

Real freedom or free will only fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Understanding free will and one's eternal individual right to make their own choices and contributions in the spiritual world, is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls)

No two jiva-souls are the same, each has their own unique individual personality, sense of self, character and personality when engaging in loving exchanges with Krsna.

In Goloka-Vrindavana there must always be reciprocation between the jiva-soul and Krsna. Loving exchanges must always exist, so the jiva souls naturally express their own unique personality and sense of independent self while choosing to serve Krsna.

The fact is each jiva-soul has their own unique individuality that eternally allows them to make their own personal offerings and choices while serving Krsna or Visnu in the spiritual world.

Such free will is the basic make up and foundation of every marginal living entity's (jiva-soul) unique independent character and personality in both Goloka-Vrindavan and Vaikuntha.

Otherwise without free will one is just dead stone Srila Prabhupada tells us.

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me. Is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that."(Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupāda - "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, there is exchange. Giving something, taking something, feeding something and to eat something, and speaking everything, no secrecy, and to know everything of the other person. When these things are transacted, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Evening Darsana, Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

This eternally existing spiritual social code of free will, that includes an independent sense of a self and individuality, is the eternal constitution of all individual jiva-souls and is part and parcel of their character and personality.

Each jiva-soul has these attributes without beginning or end and is part of every marginal living entities (jiva-souls) eternal constitution.

This allows the jiva-soul to personally always be aware that they are a unique individual independent person while serving Krsna, being different from all other living entities in the Spiritual Sky.

Free will means it is the jiva soul's choice of how to they want surrender and serve Krsna, or even not surrender if they choose however, the majority of jiva-souls, over 90% of jiva-souls never make that foolish choice and enter the temporary decaying material creation.

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be done or love cannot be executed with only one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture on SB Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Love can only exist when there are two involved in loving exchanges.

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness. So how can there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience? Love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He's so lover of you that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (Lecture on SB Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

The jiva-soul in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, never lose their free will, which means their own individual ability of self expression when choosing to offer their own personal contributions that is unique to each of the individual jiva-soul or jiva-tattva.

Each jiva-soul in their full natural ''svarupa'' potential in the spiritual world's of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, has this eternal marginal quality of free will and independent personality, which is part and parcel of the jiva-souls perpetual constitutional makeup.

In this way, each of jiva-soul has their own individual identity, character, personality, likes and dislikes and being one of kind in the Spiritual Sky, independent from all other jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa.  

No two jiva-souls are the same, each has their own unique individual personality, character and independent identity.

This eternally existing makeup or constitution of each jiva-soul, is without any beginning or ending point, and is part and parcel of every marginal living entities (jiva-souls).

This allows the jiva-soul to "personally" always be aware of their own individuality and independent nature while serving Krsna in their very best way, that is different from all other living entities in the Spiritual Sky.`

This is a very important point to understand as we progress and mature in our Krsna Consciousness.

The relationship between Krsna and the jiva-soul is never one-sided, never forced, never impersonal, it is always reciprocal, nurturing, personal and voluntary, in a mood of good exchanges and feelings, only then can there be real love.

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes).*×*.