The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are Krsna's "separate" living entities, yet are always dependent on Krsna's energies.

This is because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

However, the jiva-souls have their own personality "separate" from Krsna's Personality, they even have the choice to serve Krsna or reject Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "The "immediate" expansions of the Lord are called svāṁśa or "personal direct" expansions (Visnu-tattva). The "separated" expansions of the Lord are called vibhinnāṁśa - jiva-tattva or independent jiva-souls like us." (BG 10.37, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "There are three energies: 

1 - external energy, 

2 - internal energy, 

3 - marginal energy. 

The external energy is this material expansion, manifestation. 

Similarly, there is internal energy, the spiritual world manifestation, and in between them there is another energy called marginal energy, taṭastha, that we are, we living entities. 

We (the jiva-souls) are His marginal energy. Marginal energy means we can live either in this external energy or in the internal energy, in between. 

So at the present moment we are living in the external energy. But this external energy is also Kṛṣṇa's energies, God's energy. 

It is not different from Him. But the external energy means we are captivated by the external energy. 

But the external energy is not permanent. The internal energy is permanent. 

The spiritual world is permanent, and we are also permanent, jīva-bhūta. 

Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre (BG 2.20)

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." [BG 2.20, from 1983 edition] (Lecture on BG, Ch 9 text 4 - Melbourne, April 23, 1976)

Srila Prabhupāda - "The process is to transfer yourself from material energy to spiritual energy. We are under energy. God has got two energies—material energy and spiritual energy. We are also energy. We (the jiva-souls) are marginal energy. 

So marginal energy means we can remain under the material energy or on the spiritual energy, as we make our choice. 

Just like on the beach you find sometimes on the border of the water, the water is covering the land, and sometimes the land is open. 

This is called the marginal position. The jiva-souls are spirit but are influenced by sometimes spirit, and sometimes matter.

Similarly, we are marginal energy, or we can remain open also, in spiritual energy. 

So this process of, I mean to say, converting the material energy to spiritual energy is called bhakti-yoga. Just like this microphone. 

When it is used for some material purpose... Just like I am speaking. But sometimes the politicians or other parties or so many things—this microphone can be utilized for so many purposes. 

And it can be utilized also, God's purposes. I am speaking through this microphone about the message of God. 

So when it is utilized for God's purposes it is spiritual. And when it is utilized for our material purposes or sense gratification, this is material." (Lecture at St. Pascal's Franciscan Seminary - Melbourne, June 28, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "Marginal means (the jiva-souls) are sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "In Vedic literature the living entity is called jīvātmā (jiva-soul) and Brahman, but he is never called Para-brahman. The living entity (jīvātmā or jiva-soul) takes different positions—sometimes he merges into the dark material nature and identifies himself with matter, and sometimes he identifies himself with the superior, spiritual nature. Therefore he is called the Supreme Lord's marginal energy. 

According to his identification with material or spiritual nature, he receives a material or spiritual body. In material nature he may take a body from any of the 8,400,000 species of life, but in spiritual nature he has only one body. 

In material nature he is manifested sometimes as a man, demigod, animal, beast, bird, etc., according to his karma. To attain material heavenly planets and enjoy their facilities, he sometimes performs sacrifices (yajña), but when his merit is exhausted he returns to earth again in the form of a man. This process is called karma." (BG, Ch 8 text 3, Purport)

Srila Prabhupāda - "Although living entities belong to the marginal energy of the Supreme Lord, they are in material contamination. They think themselves enjoyers, but they are not the supreme enjoyer. 

Here it is clearly stated that the supreme enjoyer is the Supreme Personality of Godhead in His different manifestations and plenary expansions as Nārāyaṇa, Vāsudeva, etc." (BG, Ch 8 text 8, Purport)

Srila Prabhupāda - "The fact is that every individual living entity is eternally part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, and both of them are very intimately related as friends. But the living entity has the tendency to reject the sanction of the Supreme Lord and act independently in an attempt to dominate nature, and because he has this tendency he is called the marginal energy of the Supreme Lord. The living entity can be situated either in the material energy or in the spiritual energy. As long as he is conditioned by the material energy, the Supreme Lord, as his friend, the Supersoul, stays with him just to get him to return to the spiritual energy." (BG, Ch 13 text 23, Purport)

Srila Prabhupāda - "The living entity in his original position is pure spirit. He is just like an atomic particle of the Supreme Spirit. Thus Lord Kṛṣṇa may be compared to the sun, and the living entities to sunshine. 

Because the living entities are the marginal energy of Kṛṣṇa, they have a tendency to be in contact either with the material energy or with the spiritual energy. 

In other words, the living entity is situated between the two energies of the Lord, and because he belongs to the superior energy of the Lord, he has a particle of independence. 

By proper use of that independence he comes under the direct order of Kṛṣṇa. Thus he attains his normal condition in the pleasure-giving potency." (BG, Ch 18 text 78, Purport)

Each individual jiva-soul in the spiritual world can "choose" to "voluntarily" serve Krsna in an unlimited variety of ways, or even reject Him if they choose and enter the material world. 

Service to Krsna is always voluntary, Krsna allows the jiva-souls to express themselves in their own unique way. Serving Krsna is a choice the jiva-souls can make and is NEVER forced by Krsna.

Loving exchanges can only happen in a reciprocation that involves two, where the jiva-souls "voluntarily" choose to serve Krsna, and never forced to be His mindless "yes" men or women.  

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Vipina Purandara - "Why doesn’t Krsna save me from miss using my free will?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me." Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C. USA)

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is "free will." Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada and Rene Descartes 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is "voluntary." Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness. So how can there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience? Love means one? No. "Love means two." There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He's so lover of you that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (SB Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Surrender to Krsna in the spiritual world never means giving up your free will and allowing Krsna to completely control all of your every actions, deeds, words and thoughts, no, such a relationship in this version of Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is impersonalism.  

The jiva-souls in the spiritual world are not programmed drones or robots who only obey what they are told, therefore never being able to personally contribute to their relationship with Krsna in their own personal unique way. 

The jiva-souls can think for themselves the so many different ways to please Krsna and voluntarily serve Him.

The jiva-souls never lose their free will in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana, which means the individual ability of self expression.

Being able to offering their own personal contributions that are "unique" to each individual jiva-soul.

Only by having free will does the jiva-souls have that unique personality and individual character, otherwise the jiva-souls are no better than dead mindless stone. 

As said above, free will allows genuine loving exchanges and reciprocation to take place, and without that free will, the jiva-souls have no life Prabhupada has warned us.

Furthermore, Krsna never interferes with the free will of the jiva-souls have because if He did, by never allowing the choice of personal contributions, would only mean that loving exchanges of voluntarily reciprocation could never exist!

If one is forced to worship Krsna or Visnu then that is not love, it is loveless impersonalism 

This "impersonal" version of God's abode explained above, where jiva-souls are forced to surrender their free will and allow "God" to take over their every actions, thoughts and deeds, is mayavadi impersonalism.

Therefore, to deny the jiva-souls having their own unique individual "freedom of expression" (free will) and unique individual personality, by forcing them to only allow God to control all their thinking and actions in the name of "surrender," is also dangerous impersonalism.

Having genuine free will allows the jiva-souls to be themselves, an independent unique individual contributing PERSON who can always voluntarily choose their own personal relationship Krsna.

The jiva-souls ARE an eternal individual spiritual bodily form that originally looks like Krsna's "two-armed bodily form" in the spiritual world of Goloka-Vrindavana.

Each jiva-soul has their own unique personality separate from the Krsna's Personality that allows free will and voluntary service.

However, the appearance of the jiva-souls can change to an unlimited variety of bodily forms in the spiritual world, and not necessarily human either. They can appear as a flag pole, a blade of grass, a tree, a bench, a cow herd boy or girl, a cow, a shop owner, a cloud in the sky, a bird, etc.

There are unlimited choices of what one can look like but is almost inconceivable to understand this.

It is also inconceivable to understand that the spiritual world is a place where EVERYTHING is living and no dead matter or maya exists there.

If the jiva-souls voluntary choose to enter the Vaikuntha planets of Visnu/Narayana, they have a 4 armed bodily form similar to Lord Visnu, or a 4 armed bodily Form similar to Luxmi devi, Lord Visnu's consort.

the material bodily vessels or costumes the visiting jiva-souls have, are all provided by Maha-Visnu. 

The jiva-souls can only obtain a material body in the material world by first approaching Maha-Visnu.

These material bodily vessels are "hired" from the dreams of Maha-Visnu so they can enter His material creation in a suitable bodily container that matches their desires.  

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, NY, City)

All the material bodily vessels in the material creation belong to Maha-Visnu and must be acquired from Him in order to enter the material worlds.

However, all such bodily vessels in the material world are temporary and are subject decay, nothing made of matter lasts forever.

This causes the eternal jiva-souls within those material bodies, who are visiting from the spiritual worlds as passengers, to continue taking birth and continue trying to satisfy their desires.

Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 Text 83)

Srila Prabhupada – "Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes-

This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29.83)

Srila Prabhupada - "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present, and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29.2b)

Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus, there is no question of past, present, or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29.2b)

All material bodies in the material creation are provided to the jiva-souls, who reject Krsna and Visnu, by Maha-Visnu. 

Srila Prabhupada - ''As soon as we try, Oh, this material world is very nice, Yes, Kṛṣṇa says, yes, you can go, otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (Morning Walk Cheviot Hills May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Srila Prabhupada - "So to go to Krsna means you will have to acquire your original, spiritual body. The spiritual body is already there, but we are now covered by this material body." (Germany, June 22, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago. Anadi karama-phale. Anadi means before the creation. The real desire is how to go to home, back to Godhead." (Lecture on BG, London, Aug 6, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "We may fall down from Vaikuntha at any moment, so even in the Vaikuntha, if I desire that, "Why shall I serve Krsna? Why not become Krsna?" I immediately fall down." (Lecture in Honolulu, July 4, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - ''When fall down takes place it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. That non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition." (Letter to, Revatinandana, LA, California 13th June, 1970)

Srila Prabhupāda - "We are only a (dormant) spark (while fallen in the impersonal Brahmajyoti). But because we are spirit, we cannot remain in that fallen impersonal stage. He wants to enjoy, so for as long as one has forgotten (their spiritual bodily origin while outside of the spiritual atmosphere), one develops a body which is called matter."

Śyāmasundara - "Does the jiva-soul develop a spiritual body?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "No, he IS spiritual body, he has a spiritual identity already."

Revatīnandana - "You very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen, still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen jiva-souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva-souls there are also fallen souls."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes." (Aug. 17, 1971, London)

As said above, the original spiritual form of the jiva-soul has "two-arms" like Krsna, however their original home is a choice between the Vaikuntha planets serving the four-armed Visnu, or being Krsna's friend, the two-armed Kṛṣṇa in Goloka Vrindavana.

There are billions of different perpetual Vaikuntha planets that take up 3/4 of the spiritual sky, each having their own Visnu form seen as the Supreme Personality of who has their own unique name that describes the pastimes on their particular Vaikuntha planet.

Srila Prabhupada - ''When fall down takes place it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. That non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition." (Letter to, Revatinandana, LA, California 13th June, 1970)

Srila Prabhupāda - "We are only a (dormant) spark (while fallen in the impersonal Brahmajyoti). But because we are spirit, we cannot remain in that fallen impersonal stage. He wants to enjoy, so for as long as one has forgotten (their spiritual bodily origin while outside of the spiritual atmosphere), one develops a body which is called matter."

Srila Prabhupada explains that proper loving relationships are always a "two-way" reciprocal exchange.  

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. Therefore love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, there MUST be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, so there must be lover, there must be beloved." (quote 1966 - 1974, Vaniquotes)

Srila Prabhupada - "We must understand that love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good, that is not love, that is exploitation and forced obedience. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (quote 1966 - 1974, Vaniquotes)

The word ,"surrender" should be properly understood so that one's so called "surrender" and voluntary service is appreciated, reciprocated with and not forcefully demanded in an impersonal way.

Being an Impersonalist means there is only "one all-pervasive consciousness" that denies the individual jiva-souls the awareness of their own separate unique permanent singular existence. 

The impersonalist foolishly believe individuality only exists when the "so called all-pervading consciousness" is bottled up or  contained in an individual material bodily vessel, and when that bodily vessel ceases to function, the all-pervading life force occupying that bodily vessel, merges back into the impersonal  "oneness" of consciousness.

Just like when water is released from a container it merges back into the ocean of water.

Therefore, the impersonalists attempt to artificially extinguish their individuality and unique personality by trying to be "inactive" or dormant in this illusion of "oneness." 

This is how the impersonalist commits spiritual suicide.

In the spiritual world with Krsna, surrender does not mean you give up you individuality, free will, sense of self or the independence that allows you to make your own personal contributions and offerings to Krsna that is unique to just you.

Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha are very personal places based on loving voluntary exchanges that are eternally going on with Krsna and His servants and friends.

Therefore the jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna is unique and very personal, each jiva-soul has their own different personal exchanges with Krsna that no other jiva-soul can duplicate.

No two jiva-souls are the same in Vaikuntha (in personality and character) or Goloka-Vrindavana.

Therefore genuine love, service and surrender can only exist in a "two-way" voluntary exchange of feelings, based on reciprocation and mutual respect, Krsna never forces His will on anyone in the spiritual world.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will, unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will." (Prabhupada talk on Rene Descartes with Hayagriva dasa 1976)

Unless there is the misuse of free will, even in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, there is no question of free will.

For loving exchanges to truly exist between Krsna and the jiva-souls, the jiva-souls also must have the right to voluntarily express themselves in a two-way exchange, which includes being able to choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana at anytime, and return to the material worlds. 

This is what having "free will" means. 

Many, in fact most, do not understand what the spiritual world is and the points made here.

The "free will" to feel envy means you want to enjoy like Krsna and be in the centre instead of Krsna, such self centred desires immediately disqualifies you to remain in the spiritual world (Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana) and immediately you a transferred to the material creation managed by Maha-Visnu. 

Your spiritual memories are in the spiritual world and you cannot take them with you to the material world because they are NOT material.

Once the jiva-souls enter the material world, their free will is almost non-existent, and instead are directed by the demands of the material senses - eating, sleeping, mating and defending, found controlling all species of material life.

Therefore, there is no choice in the spiritual world influenced by "matter" or "maya" because matter (maya) does NOT exist in the spiritual world.

Also, maya is NOT the cause of the jiva-souls fall down from the spiritual world to the material world, "free will" is the cause of fall down, and that means there is always a choice that some nonsense sangas and their gurus cannot understand.

The jiva-souls can only enter the material world in a material bodily vessel provided by Maha-Visnu, and NOT as their spiritual eternal bodily form.

All knowledge of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana is in the spiritual body, but now covered because one has entered the material world and is now covered by a temporary decaying material bodily vessel.

In the spiritual world, as their original spiritual bodily form, all jiva-souls are female in their intimate original relationship with Krsna. 

Yes, we are all female.

Not to confused with mundane transgender in the material world because if one is given a material bodily vessel of either a male or female, then that life is who they are in that life. In their next life, one can be either male, female, dog, Cow, tree - all material life forms have a jiva-soul.

However, in the spiritual world, even though one is originally female, they can appear as male, a cow, a tree, a bird, a street sign, a blade of grass, anything they like to serve Krsna.

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG 2.14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?" 

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 - Melb, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture on BG 2.14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG 2.14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "Your question about one's relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The jiva-souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime, so there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 4/25/1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense, everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna, he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969).**

The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal PERSONS as a spiritual bodily form like Krsnas Body, and whose eternal home is the spiritual world.

Kṛṣṇa’s first expansion is Balarama from whom all Visnu-tattva expansions manifest however, all manifestions including the jiva-souls, are beginningless and endless because they are eternally part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. 

And for Kṛṣṇa to experience loving relations with a women, He divided Himself into two, and that is how Radharani appears. However, the paradox is both are eternal because Radharani is eternally part of Kṛṣṇa.

Kṛṣṇa as His original form NEVER leaves Vṛndāvana in the spiritual world. 

All of Krsna’s pastimes in the material creation including killing demons, are carried out by Krsna's Visnu-tattva expansion. In the spiritual world no demons exist or are killed by Krsna and Balarama. 

Srila Prabhupada - "When Kṛṣṇa kills the demons outside Vṛndāvana, He is not original Kṛṣṇa; He is Vāsudeva. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19). When Kṛṣṇa is acting universally, that is Vāsudeva. The original Kṛṣṇa is always in Vṛndāvana and never leaves."  (Morning Walk, July 17, 1975, San Francisco)

Srila Prabhupada - "The original Lord Kṛṣṇa never leaves Goloka Vṛndāvana. All the plenary expansions are one and the same Viṣṇu-tattva, and there is no difference in Their potency." (SB, Canto 3 Ch 1 Text 34)

Srila Prabhupada - "Kṛṣṇa is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead, and Baladeva (Balarama) is Kṛṣṇa's immediate expansion. Because Kṛṣṇa NEVER leaves Vṛndāvana, all the forms of Kṛṣṇa that appear elsewhere are His expansions." (BG, As It Is Ch 10 Text 37)

Also, the intense separation Radharani and the gopis feel for Kṛṣṇa, only happens in the facsimile Vrindavana in the material world and not in the spiritual world. The word Vaikuntha means "without anxiety" therefore how could there be demons there? And how could the gopis ever feel separation from Kṛṣṇa there? After all Krsna NEVER leaves Goloka Vrindavana.

Jayatīrtha - "If the original Kṛṣṇa is always in Vṛndāvana, then why do the gopīs and Rādhārāṇī feel separation from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That is here, in this material world. In the spiritual world Kṛṣṇa does not leave."

Jayatīrtha - "Oh."

Srila Prabhupāda - "And even in the material world, Kṛṣṇa superficially has gone to Mathurā, but He has captured the heart of the gopīs. So He is not leaving. Gopīs are enjoying Kṛṣṇa by separation. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's feeling, how He is appreciating Kṛṣṇa by separation." (Morning Walk, July 17, 1975, San Francisco)

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is a two arm form like Krsna's Bodily Form.

Srila Prabhupada - "The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture on BG 2.14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "The impersonal conception of the Supreme is so detrimental to the path of devotional service that it is very difficult to associate with the stubborn nondevotees, who always think in terms of material conceptions. Impersonalists always think backwards. They think that because there is form in matter, spirit should be formless; because in matter there is sleep, in spirit there cannot be sleep; and because the sleeping of the Deity is accepted in arcanā worship, the arcanā is māyā. All these thoughts are basically material. To think either positively or negatively is still thinking materially. Knowledge accepted from the superior source of the Vedas is standard." (SB, Canto 3 Ch 9 text 21, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Each person is eternal. Because the Lord says that He existed as a person before the creation (agre) and will also exist after the annihilation, the Lord is a person eternally. 

Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura therefore quotes these verses from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (10.9.13-14)-

na cāntar na bahir yasya

na pūrvaṁ nāpi cāparam

pūrvāparaṁ bahiś cāntar

jagato yo jagac ca yaḥ

taṁ matvātmajam avyaktaṁ

martya-liṅgam adhokṣajam

gopikolūkhale dāmnā

babandha prākṛtaṁ yathā

The Personality of Godhead appeared in Vṛndāvana as the son of mother Yaśodā, who bound the Lord with rope just as an ordinary mother binds a material child. There are actually no divisions of external and internal for the form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead- (sac-cid-ānanda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1), but when He appears in His own form the unintelligent think Him an ordinary person. 

Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritam: (BG 9.11) although He comes in His own body, which never changes. mūḍhas, the unintelligent, think that the impersonal Brahman has assumed a material body to come in the form of a person. Ordinary living beings assume material bodies, but the Supreme Personality of Godhead does not. 

Since the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the supreme consciousness, it is stated herein that saṁjñāna-mātram, the original consciousness, Kṛṣṇa consciousness, was unmanifested before the creation, although the consciousness of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the origin of everything.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 Text 12)

Thus the Lord's person is the Absolute Truth in the past, present and future. In this regard, Madhvācārya quotes two verses from the Matsya Purāṇa:

nānā-varṇo haris tv eko

bahu-śīrṣa-bhujo rūpāt

āsīl laye tad-anyat tu

sūkṣma-rūpaṁ śriyaṁ vinā

asuptaḥ supta iva ca

mīlitākṣo 'bhavad dhariḥ

anyatrānādarād viṣṇau

śrīś ca līneva kathyate

sūkṣmatvena harau sthānāl

līnam anyad apīṣyate

After the annihilation of everything, the Supreme Lord, because of His sac-cid-ānanda-vigraha (Bs. 5.1), remains in His original form, but since the other living entities have material bodies, the matter merges into matter, and the subtle form of the spirit soul remains within the body of the Lord. The Lord does not sleep, but the ordinary living entities (jiva-souls) remain asleep until the next creation. 

This because the fallen jiva-souls are still "outside" of the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets, and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

Their real home and spiritual bodily form eternally exists in the spiritual world. 

Therefore, being "outside" the spiritual world means they are trapped in the temporary material world, or merged as an individual dormant unit [spark] in the impersonal Brahmajyoti. The opulence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead remains as it is in the spiritual world; only in the material world is everything dissolved. 

Brahma-līna, merging into the Supreme Brahman (Brahmajyoti), is not actual līna, or annihilation, for the subtle form remaining in the Brahman effulgence will return to the material world after the material creation and again assume a material form. 

This is described as bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate (BG 8.19). 

When the material body is annihilated, the spirit soul remains in a subtle form, which later assumes another material body. 

This is true for the conditioned souls, but the Supreme Personality of Godhead remains eternally in His original consciousness and spiritual body." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 4 text 47, Purport)

Devotee - "I want to know exactly what is the form of the body. If the spirit soul (jiva-soul) is nonmaterial, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form. Just like this body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand, you have got leg; therefore your pant has got leg. 

Therefore, it is to be assumed that the spirit soul has got form, and it has developed into hands, legs, heads, everything. It is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14 Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you state that spirit soul has form."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Devotee - "Otherwise, how is the material body grown to accommodate the spirit soul? Just like a shirt has no form, but when it's put on the body, it takes the shapes of the body. Does that mean that the spirit soul has the shape of the body that is accommodating it?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, you have got body, shape, very minute shape. That we cannot see, we cannot measure. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, anumeyam, hat is that? You cannot measure. What is that word used? Aprameyam. Aprameyam. You cannot measure. But it has a form. 

How, what is the length and breadth of that form, that is not in your power. In your power, but not materially. 

That is if you have got spiritual power, then you can measure it. And that measurement is also given in the śāstra. What is that? 

One ten-thousandth part of the tip of the hair. Hair is a very small point. And divide it into ten thousand parts. That one part is the measure, magnitude of the soul.

keśāgra-śata-bhāgasya

śatadhā kalpitasya ca

jīva-bhāgaḥ sa vijñeyaḥ

sa cānantyāya kalpate

(CC Madhya 19.140)

Everything is there. But you have no eyes to see, how to see one ten-thousandth portion of the top of the hair. You cannot see even the original top of the hair. Everything is there. We must have eyes." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 16 text 24 Hawaii, Jan 20, 1974)

Srila Prabhupāda - "This jagat, this material world, is existing on the spiritual prakṛti. You can calculate what is this body. This body is existing on the spiritual body. Just like your shirt. The shirt is existing on your actual hand. The shirt has got a hand because you have got hand. 

So matter or material energy is impersonal. But because the superior prakṛti, jīva-soul, he is person, therefore the matter appears like a person. 

Because I have got hands and legs, therefore this cloth has got hands and legs. Otherwise the cloth has no hands and legs; it is impersonal. And in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, vāsāṁsi jīrṇāni. 

This body is just like dress, just like your coat has got hand, your pant has got leg, but either the pant or coat has no leg, no hand, but because you have got leg and hand, therefore the coat has got leg and hand. 

Everyone can understand this, it is very easy. So the original position of the spirit soul has form, therefore the cloth has been cut into form. 

It is very easy to understand, otherwise how you get the form? And in this form the spirit soul is trying to enjoy this material world. But it is not puruṣa. It cannot enjoy. That is false. That is illusion." (Lecture SB, Canto 3 Ch 26 text 3 Bombay, Dec 15, 1974) 

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not studying what kind of dress you have got. Now, you are also not studying what kind of dress I have got. We are concerned with philosophy, with knowledge. 

Similarly, we are not concerned whether you are American or Englishman or African or this or that, a cat or dog. We want to give you Kṛṣṇa consciousness, because everyone is conscious. So that consciousness has to be changed. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. 

One has to become clear of these designations-

I am Indian,

I am American,

I am brāhmaṇa, 

I am Muslim,

I am Christian,

I am Hindu.

These are all designations. So we have to become free from these designations by coming to the spiritual platform.

Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktaṁ tat-paratvena nirmalam. Nirmalam means without any... Hṛṣīkeṇa hṛṣīkeśa-sevanaṁ bhaktir ucyate (CC Madhya 19.170). 

When you come to that purest form of spirit soul, you don't think that your indriyas, or senses, are lost. No. Senses are there. 

At that time, if you enjoy your senses in cooperation with the Supreme, that is called bhakti, or Kṛṣṇa consciousness." (Lecture SB, Canto 5 Ch 5 text 1 London, Aug 30, 1971) 

Devotee - "Would the spirit soul within a cow's body be in a different shape?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, it has got also legs. But the shape has taken according to his desire (voluntary). Every animal has got these four things. 

Just like bird, it has got two wings, two legs. The animal has got four legs. And the man has got two hands, two legs. So the same parts of the body, they are appearing in a different type. But the four limbs of the body are there."

Devotee - "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Kṛṣṇa, two hands, two legs."

Hari-śauri - "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, but in the material world they are restricted, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul."

Hari-śauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Kṛṣṇa as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa," he becomes flower, voluntarily. And he can change his..., from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Kṛṣṇa as cow, he serves Kṛṣṇa as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. Ye yathā mām prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham (BG 4.11). That is Kṛṣṇa's all-powerfulness, this is spiritual life." (Lecture SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1 Melb, Australia, May 21, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "In Vaikuṇṭha, people, they also dress with yellow cloth, pīta-kauśeya, or this saffron color. This is Vaikuṇṭha dress. Kauśeya, pīta, the dress, garments. Kirīṭinaḥ: "with helmets." Kuṇḍalinaḥ: "with nice earring." Kirīṭinaḥ kuṇḍalino lasat-puṣkara-mālinaḥ, "and very nice flower garland." This is Vaikuṇṭha dress. Lasat-puṣkara-mālinaḥ, sarve ca nūtna-vayasaḥ: all young men. In Vaikuṇṭha there is no old age, although they are eternal. That is the real form of the spirit. The old age is due to this body, material body. Material thing is born and stays for some time, and then it is annihilated. So, up to the time of annihilation, it becomes so old, nasty, bad-looking. But in the Vaikuṇṭha there is no such thing. Nityaḥ śāśvato 'yam. The Vaikuṇṭha planet, because that is spiritual body, that is nityaḥ śāśvataḥ." (Lecture SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 33 San Francisco, July 18, 1975) 

What is really going on in the temporary decaying material creation if we choose to stay in the endless cycle of birth and death?

Who owns and provides all material bodily vessels to the visiting eternal jiva-souls, who have chosen to leave Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan and enter the material worlds (Brahmanda universes) by "hiring" temporary material bodily vessels from the dreams of Maha-Visnu?

All the material bodily vessels in the material creation belong to Maha-Visnu and must be purchased or "hired" from Him.

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding, one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966 NY City USA)

Srila Prabhupada - "The "immediate" expansions of the Lord are called svāṁśa or "personal direct" expansions (Visnu-tattva). The "separated" expansions of the Lord are called vibhinnāṁśa - jiva-tattva or independent jiva-souls like us." (BG 10.37, Purport)

Each individual jiva-soul in the spiritual world can "choose" to "voluntarily" serve Krsna in an unlimited variety of ways, or even reject Him if they choose and enter the material world. 

The jiva-souls ARE an eternal individual spiritual bodily form that originally looks like Krsna's "two-armed bodily form" in the spiritual world of Goloka-Vrindavana.

Each jiva-soul has their own unique personality separate from the Krsna's Personality that allows free will, free expression and voluntary service.

However, the outward appearance of the jiva-souls can change to an unlimited variety of bodily forms in the spiritual world, and not necessarily human either. They can appear as a flag pole, a blade of grass, a tree, a bench, a cow herd boy or girl, a cow, a shop owner, a cloud in the sky, a bird, etc.

There are unlimited choices of what one can look like but is almost inconceivable to understand this.

It is also inconceivable to understand that the spiritual worlds are a place where EVERYTHING is living and no dead matter or maya exists there.

If the jiva-souls voluntary choose to enter the Vaikuntha planets of Visnu/Narayana, they have a 4 armed bodily form similar to Lord Visnu, or a 4 armed bodily Form similar to Luxmi devi, Lord Visnu's consort.

Srila Prabhupada - "The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture on BG 2.14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the jiva-soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form, here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation, the human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; then they become flower there, they lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna as a flower voluntarily, but he can change his form from flower to human body if one wants. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, 6.1.1-4 - Melb, May 20, 1975)

Srimati Radharani is the internal energy, we are marginal energy (jiva-souls)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy (jiva-souls). Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy (jiva-souls); we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada – "Regarding your questions where are the spirit souls coming from?  These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities. There is no new soul. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, so how there can be new soul?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 7/9/1970)

All jiva-souls are beginningless and endless, they were NEVER created, not even by Krsna because they have always existed, just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays have always existed together. 

Remember only "matter" is temporary like the material bodily vessels the perpetual jiva-souls are in as a passenger, they wear out and eventually decay, while the jiva-soul within can never decay or be destroyed in anyway. 

All jiva-souls have existed for infinity without a beginning, nor will they ever have an ending.

The "jiva-souls" who have chosen to be covered by a temporary decaying material bodily vessels, are eternal in that decaying material bodily container and are therefore never subjected to the material vessels decay, impermanence, decline and death. 

All jiva-souls are eternal and are eventually forced to abandon a worn out broken down unfit material bodily container, and given a new material body out of 8 million 400 thousand species of life, a rebirth in the endless cycle of birth and death in the material manifestation.

Taking birth again in the human species is very rare, many take it for granted their next life will be a human birth, in most cases, especially in Kali-yuga it isn't, most are reborn in the animal kingdom or lower as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains.

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) have existed for "infinity" which means, just like Krsna, they are beginningless and endless, and were NEVER created.

To actually realize we never really die and have NEVER died is an eye opening realization and means our real home is in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana where one never experiences birth, death or decay. 

In the material temporary creation, this can mean something very horrible.

This is because we have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end, it IS possible we have lived within billions upon billions upon billions of material bodily vessels in another time, another place, a past material creation that goes back through infinity (never ending) and goes forward through infinity (also never ending)

It is important to understand there is no such thing as new jiva-souls being created because they have ALWAYS existed and were NEVER created as Bhagavad Gita explains.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2, Verse 12.

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG 2.12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is "1983 correct edition," Chapter 2 text 20-

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 "correct" 1983 edition)

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)

Only matter is temporary (like the material bodily vessel the jiva-soul is presently in), while the jiva-souls in the material body are eternal and can NEVER cease to exist.

This means when the material vessels the jiva-soul is in, breaks down due to disease, decay or accidents, and ceases to function, also due to old age, the jiva-soul can no longer remain in that broken material body, and is forced to take another body in the womb of a new mother.

However, the jiva-souls contained in a "subtle material body", are forced to continuously change "gross material bodies" because of the temporary nature of the material creation.

Maha-Visnu has a "Costume shop" of  material bodies for hire, all manifesting from His material dreams.

The fact is, to acquire a material bodily biological container, so the jiva-soul can enter a Brahmanda material universe's inner secondary universe within it, the jiva-soul must "hire" a bodily vessel from the owner of all "material bodily costumes" in the material creation, Maha-Visnu. 

It is from Maha-Visnu's "Costume shop" that all material bodily vessels originate, and are available for hire to a visiting jiva-soul to the material creation so they can acquire a material body suitable for their desired existence in a material universe (Brahmanda)

Past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world in the eyes of Maha-Visnu.

And all material bodily vessels we have are rented from Him like, just one gets a costume from a costume shop.

The facilities of bodily costumes and their pathway from birth to death is provided by Maha-Visnu. 

The eternal individual jiva-souĺs are simply the passenger in the material body.

Material bodies or vessels we are contained in while active in the material creation, all come from Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material universes, He provides all material bodily vessels.

Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes–

"This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83)

Srila Prabhupada - “Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)

Srila Prabhupada - "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972, SB Canto 2 Ch 9 text 1)

Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)

Space-time is the fabric within each material universal universe (Brahmanda) responsible for the movement or flowing of time (past, present, future) in the material manifestation.

"Time" in the temporary material creation, is like a permanent roadway divided into past, present and future that all exists simultaneously, just like the beginning, middle and end of that roadway is always there, even after one traverses it?

In other words the movement of time (past, present and future) exists just like each part of the roadway exists, beginning, middle and end, after passing over it. 

This means that within that fabric of space-time, the material bodily vessel we are in, IS just like being on a roadway that starts from it's birth, childhood, youth, middle age, old age and death.

The fact is, the jiva-souls are simply "the passengers" ''on that roadway,'' or "a passenger in the material body." 

So, because the jiva-souls are NOT made of matter like the roadway or material body is, the decay and breakdown of matter has no affect on the jiva-souls who eternally remain indestructible and never dies.

The jiva-souls (eternal spiritual living entities that can NEVER be destroyed) are the passengers on that roadway simultaneously contained in a temporary decaying material bodily vessel.

As said above, the movement of past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world through the eyes of its creator Maha-Visnu. 

"Material time" is a continuous back-drop all-pervading the material creation vibrating its effects of impermanence, decay, death and rebirth within each Brahmanda universe. 

We must not forget, all material bodily vessels, numbering 8 million 400 thousand species, are possessed by perpetual individual life, who are the eternal, indestructible jiva-souls who move all material bodily vessels. 

Maha-Visnu knows all this because He is God, the cause of all causes, He knows all and sees all.

Maha-Visnu dreams the entire material creation which means every possible outcome that the individual jiva-souls dream up, or imagine already exists in His unlimited volt of material dreams.

As a result of all that is possible to exist, ALWAYS exists with every possible outcome, there are billions of Brahmanda universal shells, each with a smaller "secondary universe" deep within each Brahmanda where Maha-Visnu's expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu.

And from His navel Lord Brahma appears who then builds the different planetary systems.

This happens in all of the billions of Brahmanda universes that originate from the pores and breathing of Maha-Visnu.

As explained above, deep within each Brahmanda is a secondary smaller material universe where Maha-Visnu expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu and from Him Lord Brahma appears and builds a universe that has many planetary systems like our universe that is inside our surrounding Brahmanda universe,   which has 14.

There is only one Maha-Visnu in the material creation but there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus and Brahmas.

As already explained, the movement of material time (past, present, and future) allows everything to exist simultaneously in their own "time zone" within the material creation. 

Just like we cannot see the heavenly realm on the Moon, because it is in its own subtle dimension of space-time different from our gross material dimension.  

Maha-Visnu naturally knows all His creation, past, present and future. That should not be surprising, after all, He is Krsna's expansion called Visnu-tattva who has 93.75% of Krsna's qualities which is 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes) Maha-Visnu creates all the temporary material universes, called material worlds known as Brahmandas via His dreaming.

The word "world" does not only refer to our small earth global sphere we live on. 

Our material universe, within its 14 planetary systems, is often collectively called a "world" too, and so is the massive surrounding Brahmanda universe our universe is incased in.

So, the question is, can the individual jiva-souls (jiva- souls who have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities or 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes) also realize that past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material worlds?

Or does Maha-Visnu and other Visnu-tattva expansion have the only capacity to see this?

The answer is no, other jiva-souls can also see this if Visnu allows it, Arjuna was shown past, present and future by Krsna as told in the Mahabharata chapter Bhagavad Gita.

So yes, Maha-Visnu sees all His dreams of the vast material universes (Brahmands) in full, meaning from beginning, the middle and end as a temporary reality and NOT an illusion, His dreams are real but temporary.

Rare jiva-souls who get above the flow of time can also see the whole road, beginning, middle and end, however, this is very rare.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7 "The Universal Form"

"Whatever you wish to see can be seen all at once in this body. This universal form can show you all that you now desire, as well as whatever you may desire in the future. Everything is here completely."

Purport by Srila Prabhupada. 

"No one can see the entire universe sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe. Krsna gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Krsna, Arjuna is able to see everything." (BG Ch, 11 Text 7)

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, He can do anything He wants, even over-ride the jiva-soul's free will.

Krsna never interferes with the jiva-soul's "free will," even when they choose to reject Him because He wants His subjects to think for themselves and voluntarily serve Him without being dictated too or forced.

However, even this kind consideration is ultimately up to Krsna to sanction because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes and can do anything He wants, even over-ride the jiva-soul's free will anytime He likes.

This means Krsna is not controlled by any rules and regulations, or binded by any laws in both the spiritual and material world. At any time He likes, He can change anything He likes, after all everything is resting on Him and not a blade of grass can move without the will of Krsna.

Only Krsna can do this if He wants because He is the Supreme Lord and not a blade of grass moves without His sanction. Krsna knows everything past, present and future because He is omniscient. But generally Krsna allows the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) to express themselves in their own unique way, which means allowing them to have their choice to stay in the spiritual world, or enter the material world. 

So, without any objections from Krsna to follow Him or not follow Him, the jiva-souls can choose to stay in the spiritual worlds, or enter the temporary material creation and do what ever they want without Krsna. 

Such choices are based on their individual constitutional attribute of "free will" that every jiva-soul (marginal living entity) is endowed with.

In most nearly all cases, Krsna will not interfere with the jiva-soul's free will because He wants a relationship with those who can contribute and take personal responsibilities for their own thoughts and actions.

This allows the jiva-souls to voluntarily make their own unique offerings to Krsna and suprise Him.

This is what it means to be an iindividual jiva-soul (marginal living entity) who has the "free will" that allows them to further enrich, contribute and even surprise Krsna with their loving exchanges with Him. 

Otherwise, one is just a mindless drone or puppet who only obeys without personal contributions, foolishly thinking "surrender" means allowing Krsna to control your every thoughts, actions and words, allowing Krsna to possess you and take complete control of your personality and individuality.

The fact is, this kind of mindless bogus "surrender" is dangerous impersonalism.

Bali Mardana - "An example of free will is someone can choose Kṛṣṇa or turn away? Is that an example of free will?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, because if you accept Kṛṣṇa, then you must follow what Kṛṣṇa says. If you don't follow Kṛṣṇa, then what is the use of talking of Kṛṣṇa? If he accepts Kṛṣṇa, he must abide by the injunction of Kṛṣṇa."(Morning Walk, Jan 22, 1974, Hawaii)

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will but misuses his free will, just like a thief who knows he is stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. But unless there can be misuse of free will, then there is no question of free will." (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one-way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Genuine loving exchanges can never exist if one's relationship with God was not a "two-way" exchange of feelings, but only a domineering "one-sided" affair with "a so called God." 

Freedom and free will obviously includes having the choice to accept or reject Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling, then there is love. Not by force! Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are "two-persons," where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. Therefore love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, there MUST be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, so there must be lover, there must be beloved. We must understand that love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good, that is NOT love, that is exploitation and forced obedience. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Srila Prabhupada quotes 1966 - 1974, Vaniquotes)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Devotee – "When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krsna, we have a perfect relationship with Krsna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already there serving Krsna?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Because you desire to fall down. Here it is explained that don’t fall down."

Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving in Vaikuntha."

Srila Prabhupada – "Because you have got little freedom, it is free will, why one is not coming here and going to the liquor shop? It is 

Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, you forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, "My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there." But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go." All right, you go at your risk and suffer. What can be done? So because you are son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father, so God does not interfere with your independence. If you persist that "I must go and enjoy independently," God says, "All right, you can go." This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come to the material world and enjoy." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Acyutananda – "In the Bhagavad Gita it says, "Once coming to the spiritual world he never returns to the material worlds, so he can return?"

Srila Prabhupada – "If he likes he can return, that is voluntary."

Guru-kripa – "How is it that one can become envious of Krsna?"

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence, you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God. 

God has got full independence, but you have got independence too, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, so if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted. We can misuse that. 

Krsna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown." (Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)

In actual fact, if the jiva-souls never had their free will, then genuine voluntary loving exchanges and reciprocation experienced in a "two-way" relationship, would not exist because loving relationships between two, can never exist among the "impersonalists" who foolishly believe everything is "all-one" consciousness. 

Srimati Radharani is the internal energy, we are marginal energy (jiva-souls)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy (jiva-souls). Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy (jiva-souls); we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Massachusetts, 25 April, 1969)

Those who claim "not even the leaves can fall down from Vaikuntha" because Krsna is in complete control of the jiva-souls and will not let them fall down, are not understanding the real meaning and implications of having "free will" (freedom), and that only a "two-way" relationship that does NOT deny personal choices that includes even rejecting Krsna ALWAYS exists as part of the individual expression of EVERY jiva-soul.

This is allows the association between Krsna and the jiva-souls, to for ever expand into loving personal exchanges as well.

In other words, the spiritual planets are not a "one-way" impersonal dictatorship where Krsna controls every aspect of His devotees like a puppet master controls his puppets.

This also means one's position on the spiritual planets can never be claimed to be eternally permanent, even though it is the jiva-souls original and natural home.

This is because there is always free will in both Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana. 

This means at any time the jiva-souls can leave if they choose to do so, but most, over 90%, choose to never leave Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Many foolishly claim the jiva-souls can never fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, which is correct for over 90% because they choose to never fall down.

However, all jiva-souls can choose to leave at anytime due to free will. Therefore it is always their choice and as already explained, most choose NOT to leave the spiritual worlds. 

Also fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is not because of Maya (material cause) because Maya does not exist in the spiritual worlds.

However, free will, or the ability to make one's own decisions and choices, DOES always exists there.

As said above, Maya and material energy cannot exist in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana and tempt the jiva-souls, therefore Maya is NOT the cause of falling down from the spiritual worlds.

But as said, the ability to choose does exist in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana where one always has a choice.

"Surrendering" to Krsna in Goloka-Vrindavana, or Visnu on the Vaikuntha planets is NOT impersonal, which means the jiva-souls do not have to give up their free will, individuality and unique personality in order to love and serve Krsna.

In fact it is the opposite, without free will one can NEVER love Krsna.

And what are the symptoms of free will?

It means having the awareness of an independent self, a unique individual personality that is separate from Krsna's Personality, and being able to voluntarily make your own choices in your service to Krsna.

Having "free will" ALWAYS allows the jiva-souls to voluntarily choose their own contributions as a unique offering to Krsna in loving service. 

Without "free will," loving reciprocational exchanges and positive and negative emotions with Krsna are not possible.

In the spiritual worlds all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are nitya-siddha (liberated) personalities. 

However, while in the material world, those same jiva-souls who choose to enter the material creation, ARE nitya-baddha (meaning materially conditioned) 

Nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha are different sides the jiva-soul's personality they can choose to be. 

Although nitya-siddha is the jiva-soul's, "original position," living in their eternal home on the Vaikuntha planets, or in Goloka-Vrindavana serving the interests of the Lord.  

The jiva-soul's "original position" are always nitya-siddha, Srila Prabhupada explains here-

Srila Prabhupada - "The actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity is nitya-siddha. By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, the jiva-soul can become AGAIN nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha." (NY City Lecture on CC, July 13, 1976)

As said above, all jiva-souls are originally nitya-siddha, while nitya-baddha is a conditioned state they fall down to by rejecting Krsna. (either to the material creation or the impersonal brahman) 

Therefore, because of free will, the jiva-souls can choose to enter the temporary material worlds where they are there known as nitya-baddha, or latter on, after being frustrated with material existence, the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

All jiva-souls can choose to remain nitya-siddha or they can enter the material creation as nitya-baddha. 

Nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha are different sides of each jiva-soul's personality, there are NOT two separate categories of jiva-souls, one being nitya-baddha, and the other being nitya-siddha.

There are those who foolishly believe a class of jiva-souls can never fall down from Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and always remain nitya-siddha, such an idea is nonsense because that means they have no free will.

As explained above, free will means being always able to choose right or wrong, otherwise you have no free will as explained above.

Only the many Visnu-tattvas expansions of Krsna and Radharani in their many different roles in Krsna's eternal pastimes in Vrindavan and the Vaikuntha planets never fall down.

And includes of course those jiva-souls "who choose NOT to fall down."  

The fact is, the jiva-souls (nitya-siddha) in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, CAN fall down at any time and become nitya-baddha in the material creation, but most jiva-souls (over 90% as said above) choose NEVER to fall down.

A pure devotee is trying to remember Krsna by always chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa and praying to never fall down..^^..