Wednesday, October 16, 2019

Past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world in the eyes of Maha Vishnu. And all material bodily vessels we have are obtained from Him like one gets a costume from a costume shop.

The facilities of bodily costumes and their pathway from birth to death is provided by Maha-Vishnu. We are simply the passenger.

Material bodies or vessels we are contained in while active in the material creation, all come from Maha Vishnu's dreaming of the material universes, He provides all material bodily vessels.

Srila Prabhupada – “This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Vishnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes –

“This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Vishnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation”. (SB 4.29.83)

Srila Prabhupada - “Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature.” (SB. 4.29.2b)

Srila Prabhupada - “Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krishna consciousness, we break the dream.” (Tokyo Japan 1972: Srimad Bhagavatam 2.9.1)

Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams" Srimad Bhagavatam (SB 4.29.2b)

Is space-time a fabric in the material world, a roadway of past, present and future that exists simultaneously?

In other words all 'time of past, present and future' exists just like each part of the roadway exists after passing over it. This means that within the fabric of space-time the material body we are in IS part of the road that starts from birth, childhood, youth, middle age, old age and death.

We are simply a passenger ''on the roadway'' because we the soul or jiva is not made of matter that the roadway we are on and bodily vessel we are in is made of.

Past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world to Maha Vishnu because He is God and knows all.

Maha Vishnu dreams the entire material creation which means every possible outcome that the individual jiva souls can think up or imagine.

As a result of this, there are billions of Brahmanda universal shells, each with a smaller universe deep within each Brahmanda and where Maha Vishnu's expansion, Garbhodakashayi Vishnu appears

And from His navel Lord Brahma appears who then builds the different Planetary Systems.

This happens in all the billions of Brahmandas that originate from the pores and breathing of Maha Vishnu.

From above the movement of material time (past, present, and future) all exist simultaneously in the material world always to Maha Vishnu who naturally knows everything, past, present and future.

That should not be surprising, after all, He is Krishna's expansion (Vishnu-tattva that have 93.75% of Krishna's qualities) that creates all the temporary material universes.

So, the question is, can the individual  jiva souls (jiva-tattva that has 78.125% of Krishna's qualities) souls also realize that past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world?

Or does Maha Vishnu and other Vishnu tattva expansion have the only capacity to see this?

The answer is no, other jiva tattva souls can also see this if Vishnu allows it, Arjuna was shown past, present and future by Krishna as told in the Mahabharata chapter Bhagavad Gita. 

So yes, Maha Vishnu sees all His dreams of the vast material universes (Brahmands) in full, meaning from beginning, the middle and end as a temporary reality and NOT an illusion, His dreams are real but temporary.

Rare jiva souls who get above the flow of time can also see the whole road, beginning, middle and end, however, this is very rare.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7 "The Universal Form"

"Whatever you wish to see can be seen all at once in this body. This universal form can show you all that you now desire, as well as whatever you may desire in the future. Everything is here completely".

PURPORT

”No one can see the entire universe sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe.

Krsna gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Krsna, Arjuna is able to see everything” (End of Quote)

Akasha is a Sanskrit word meaning “sky”, “space”, “luminous”, or “ether”

The Akashic record is like an immense photographic film of past, present and future that one can tap into anywhere on the table of ”material time”

Even Albert Einstein in his research, concluded in his later years that the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously

Could it be possible with Vedic understanding to understand this fact that past, present and future in the material creation, is happening simultaneously?

From the higher dimensional viewpoint, our material biological bodily vessel is a ‘post’ for the jivatma or soul travels in to experience the material universe (mahat tattva).

This is just like how one travels on the twists and turns of an already built road or pathway? That "road" is the material body you (the anti-material soul or life force) are in

In this way our material bodily vessel ‘IS’ that pathway that can be traversed by unlimited jivas because it is a "permanent post" (meaning reoccurring again when the next material creation manifests) within the dreams of Maha Vishnu.

This is also just another way of seeing the truth that we (the individual jiva soul) are NOT the material bodily vessel we occupy and possess.

Of course understanding this is not easy to comprehend.

Others see this understanding from a mundane viewpoint because they cannot see the bigger picture of how material energy works and therefore cannot understand.

“Time has no independent existence apart from the order of events by which we measure it.” —Albert Einstein

Srila Prabhupada – “No one can see the entire universe sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe. However, Krsna gives him (Arjuna) the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Krsna, Arjuna is able to see everything”. (Chapter 11, The Universal Form Bhagavad Gita as it is text 7)

We know that every material bodily vessel in the material creation is created by Maha Vishnu.

Such material bodily vessels are the containers that are possessed by an individual jivatma (soul)

These material bodies are simultaneously created (that match Maha Vishnu's dreams) by the rebellious dream state of the jivatma after leaving the anti-material Sky (Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan) that are only found in the material creation.

These material bodily vessels are used by the fallen jiva (known as baddha jiva in the material creation) to get around in while in the mahat tattva (material creation).

These material bodies are ornaments that are parts and parcels of the material creation or mahat tattva.

So does this mean all material vessels we dwell in are always a permanent fixture within the material creation and again manifest with a different batch of souls in a future creation of Maha Vishnu?

And does every material vessel continuously exist each step along the path or roadway within the dimension of past, present and future with different jivas in them passing through that bodily pathway?

How the material creation works is hard to explain and understand, however the concept of eternity also proves there is eternal recurrence because all combinations of material elements will be exhausted to the point material energy starts repeating itself. 

Of course this takes quadrillion of years to happen, but it WILL happen because there is no beginning or end the the material creation (1/4 the size of the Spiritual Sky)

The other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky is anti-matter meaning there is no decay, everything is permanent and the only time is the "eternal presence" and no concept of past, present or future.

The material creation may appear to be re-created and annihilated (due to the journey through past, present and future) however, this is not happening by the passing of time but is rather happening through the journey of time meaning the journey can be repeated by other jivas.

From the bigger picture of seeing past, present and future all together, one sees the mahat-tattva or material energy as it really is.

So Einstein's research was on the right path regarding the movement of time. 

Therefore, it is not surprising to understand that many living entities or jivas have experienced the exact same bodily vessel you are presently confined too now and foolishly thinking it is you.

The first step in beginning one's spiritual life is understanding you are NOT the gross material body or its underlining subtle material bodily vessel.

The fact is, any jiva soul is able to experience the some life' path you have right now because each material bodily vessel is a "permanent post" and just a ”costume” the jiva wears that one can also rent from a costume shop owner (Maha Vishnu)

Such costumes (material bodies) are always available for "rent" at the beginning of each new material creation (when Maha Vishnu again breaths out all the billions of Brahmanda universes that each have a smaller universe like our small Bhu-Mandala universe deep inside it.

In this regards the "Costume shop" is Maha Vishnu’s ”dreams” and the jiva soul can rent one of "those dreams" (bodily material vessels) from Maha Vishnu.

The jiva can rent one of the realities Maha Vishnu creates by His dreaming that are also eternally available for rent to all other jivas if they desire or deserve a certain material bodily vessel.

Maha Vishnu's dreams are all inclusive, this means EVERYTHING is possible and every material body on desires is possible.

Every material combination already exists for the jiva soul to experience. Everything in the material creation is owned and "dreamed up" by Maha Vishnu, the jiva soul gets all of these material bodily vessels from ONLY Maha Vishnu.

As previously explained, all material bodily vessels belong to Maha-Vishnu, and we are experiencing His dreaming and simultaneously our material desires through those material bodily vessels He creates through His dreaming.

This is what happens in the material creation while "thinking", we are the material gross (biological) and material subtle body (existing in sub-space not yet discovered by material science in 2020) we presently possess.

Engaging in serving Krishna's pure devotees (through Bhakti and Sankirtan), one can ONLY have the realizations of how this works.

Selfless devotional service enables one to exit the "subtle and gross" material bodily dreams of Maha Vishnu's material creation, and most importantly, the mysterious subtle body and again regain the memory of one's genuine perpetual anti-material "nitya-siddha body" (the jiva souls full potential) in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan.

Keep in mind, when absolute knowledge of selfless loving Bhakti is realized and acted upon, all the material gross bodily and subtle vessels within the material creation, are not only seen as counterfeit bodies or vessels the jiva soul is provided with by Maha-Vishnu, but are also mundane ‘posts’ that others jiva souls can also experience if they choose to enter the material creation.

This is because such material vessels are borrowed costumes or-outfits’ coming from Maha Vishnu.

Such material vessels have been worn again and again within Maha-Vishnu’s material universal stage drama of the material existence (1/4 of the Spiritual Sky) experienced by an unlimited flow of jiva souls before us and after us possessing them.

Therefore, an unlimited number jivas over a period of many, many material creations of Maha-Vishnu, have lived in material bodies that are constantly created over and over again in the cycle of material creations Maha Vishnu creates with his breathing as He sleeps and dreams the material creation.

This process of universal cycles are eternal.

The jiva soul wears material bodily vessels that are provided by Maha-Vishnu so they can act out there material desires that are simultaneously part of  Maha Vishnu's script (dream) of the material creation.

The Director of all material affairs is Maha-Vishnu who's dreams are chosen by a visting jiva soul that are insink with their own material desires or dreams of enjoying separate from Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

The jiva soul then chooses to leave the anti-material Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan.

Simply free will and the ability to choose for themselves caused the jiva soul to fall from Vaikuntha or Goloka to the material creation.

There is no material cause for the the jiva souls fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan.

Originally all jiva souls come from either Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan and fall to the material creation where they acquire a material vessel of Maha Vishnu.

There are two sources to enter the material creation.

1 - From Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan.

2 - From the dormant inactive impersonal Brahmajyoti or impersonal Brahman.

Those jiva souls who enter the material creation from the "inactive" Brahmajyoti or Brahman had long, long, long ago originally fell from either Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan.

After spending many births in the material creation, they become frustrated by its temporary nature from seeing that they spend an entire life building their life's fortune and dreams, only to have it all taken away at the time of death of their material body.

So instinctly they plan to end their mundane existence by attempting to merge themselves into the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

To do this they become a yogi or jnani (philosopher) but unknown to them, even if they succeed in merging their individuality into the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti and "hover" their as an individual inactive "spark" for trillions of years, it is only temporary, again they will enter the material creation whether they like it or not.

Why?

Because the nature of the soul is "activity" and NEVER to be inactive.

All material bodily vessels always eternally exist in Maha Vishnu's dream of the material creation.

This means all material vessels ARE repeated again in the next manifestion of the material creation.

In other words such material costumes (bodily vessels) worn by each visiting jiva soul, are always exist in blue print so they can again become a reality in the next material creation, every time the material universes are re-created by Maha-Vishnu after their annihilation.

Looking from above "outside the realm of past, present and future", one can observes the entire winding roadway or pathway of each material bodily vessel and see at every stage the bodily vessel exists each step on the road through the journey of time and space.

It must be clearly understood that the perpetual ever youthful and fresh "eternal presence" of Goloka and Vaikuntha, exists in the 3/4 of the "anti-material" part of the Spiritual Sky.

Whereas the material creation (mahat-tattva) is known as a dark temporary  cloud always in a state of decline and decay in 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky governed by past, present and future.

Therefore, within the material creation, which is the temporary, impermanent and always in a state of decay facet of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti, takes up only 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky and is where rebellious jiva souls experience the mundane journey of past, present and future.

On the other hand, the ‘eternal presence’ of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan takes up 3/4 of the Spiritual Sky as already explained

So in the material creation this means the jiva soul is trapped in an aging decaying outer material bodily shell that is perishable and experiences constant decay and decline with the movement and journey of material time.

This temporary effect of the material body is natural to the material creation’s subtle and biological (gross) material bodies and their surroundings.

Like frames in a movie canister where each frame always exists together and at the same time as a part of the over all film canister or cylinder, similarly, the material material biological costumes in the the material creation always exist from its birth, to youth, middle age and death from the bigger picture.

Each step of the vessel or material body is like the frame in the film canister and that canister is compared to the material creation.

Just like a film is made up of frame by frame pictures, the bodily material costume and their surrounding are both decorations and ornaments of the material creation and are also divided into frame by frame realities that are ‘moving’ within the perpetual blue-print of past, present and future of the material creation that the jiva soul simply passes through.

The facilities of bodily costumes and their entire pathway from birth to death, is provided by Maha-Vishnu.

We are simply passengers in His material bodily creations (costumes) playing out His dreams that are simultaneously our dreams.

The jiva soul's material desires cannot be fulfilled without the provisions of Maha-Vishnu.

Even when Arjuna was with Krsna, he was afraid because he could see all past, present and future – seeing the future activity of his family and himself indicates the future already exists for all of us to pass through, just like one traverse a road already built.

God knows EVERYTHING, He knows the path of every material bodies journey from beginning, middle and end, after all Maha Vishnu created this material universe and knows all.

Vaikunthaloka is the real PERSONAL world of individuality and real freedom, freedom to eternally serve Krishna where as the material universe is impersonal and artificial because the material body we are in is an outer garment or costume and not who we really are.

To be free from that, from all those material bodies we move through in the overlapping of time, we must re-establish our original relationship with Krishna in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana where you ARE your a‘spiritual’ body and do NOT have an an external bodily shell or vessel

All these material costumes or bodily containers or vessels the jiva possess, are also available to other jivas too, all purchased from Maha Vishnu’s material dreaming of this universe.

The ultimate realization is we are all ‘individual jivas with a spiritual form that is NOT material.

That realization is only possible when we understand that Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana, which are beyond the mundane material universe, are our original eternal home.

When one is free from the material universe’s temporary bodily containers, they realize their true identity and individuality as Krishna’s eternal servant, as one's original svarupa or spiritual form, this is the highest realization in the universe.

The material energy that the ‘individual’ soul is covered by, is ‘one.’ it is the jivas that occupy those bodily containers that are the "individual souls" and NOT the material energy that is the covering or material bodily vessel.

When that material covering or bodily vessel dissolves, it merges back into the mahat tattva or material elements as ”ONE”, yes ‘ONE”.

"Material energy alone is lifeless", always changing and is "one", where as spiritual energy is always alive, always fully pervasive within the spiritual sky as "individual" jiva tattvas and Vishnu tattvas.

The material energy or bodily covering of the ‘individual’ jiva or soul in the material creation is ‘one’, where as the Spiritual energy is made up of individual living entities or units know as the jiva tattvas who all emanate from Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead .

Actually it is a fact not understood by everyone, that ”everything” in the material creation already exists and we simply travel though it like on an already guilt roadway made of material energy that is already there and has always existed.

We simply get a material body, vessel or pathway according to our desire, and then get further bodies also according to our desires and inner dreams.

The material body we get acts how we would ”choose” to act but this is already known by Maha Vishnu in His dreams

From Maha Vishnu’s point of View EVERYTHING in His material universes, past, present and future already exists.

To be free from this material world, we must reestablish our original perpetual relationship with Krishna.

Our original eternal svarupa is outside the realm of past, present and future and established in the ”eternal presence” of Krishna.

Maha Vishnu knows past, present and future, that is clear, but is also inconceivable to us because we see things and and think ‘how can anyone know what I am going to do next,’ how can anyone know the future?

Well, Maha Vishnu already knows EVERYTHING, this is what is meant by –

"Every material vessel that we, the individual jiva, occupy, already has its own pathway that is already mapped out.

Krishna showed Arjuna ALL past, present and future in the material universe.

God knows EVERYTHING, He knows the path of every material body, He knows how you will act before you act, it is His dream we are the renter, after all Maha Vishnu created this material universe.

Vaikuntha Loka the real ‘PERSONAL eternal Spiritual world of individuality and real freedom, freedom to eternally serve Krishna

The ultimate realization is we are all ‘individual jivas AS a spiritual bodily form that is NOT material, that realization is only possible when we understand that Vaikuntha is our original home as Krishna’s eternal servant

Predestination is operating from the point of view of the Maha Vishnu only.

We, jivas, live in the movement of time and so have a clearly defined past and future. Maha Vishnu is beyond time and the concepts of past, present and future do not exist on His level. Thus we will interpret our present experience as due to past events and we have no capacity to see the future but Maha Vishnu does.

At most we can calculate probabilities of what will happen in future. There is no such restriction to Maha Vishnu because it is beyond the concept of time and space.

From His point of view everything is known, past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world to Maha Vishnu, He sees His dreams of the material universe in full beginning, middle and end.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Krishna gave Arjuna the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Krsna, Arjuna is able to see everything". (Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 7 text)

Remember we do not have a soul because we ARE the soul known as the jiva tattva in these temporary material bodily vessels we are in that is eternal without beginning or end as the Bhagavad Gita As It Is tells us.

Chapter 2: Contents of the Gita Summarized

TEXT 20

TRANSLATION

For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.

We are not the millions of material bodies we possess in this material vast Universe.






1 comment:

  1. It is possible to be outside one's time frame reference?

    This asks is it possible to see the entire road one is travelling on from above, where you can see the entire road, it's beginning, middle and end.

    Remember, the "road" is the material body you are in as a passenger's entire pathway from birth, youth, middle age, old age, and it's death.

    Being "outside" the movement of travel through time, is seeing outside your time frame reference.

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