The "gross temporary material bodily container or vessel", houses the "subtle material body" which contains or houses the "soul or perpetual jivatma (svarupa bodily person)", which is "the real individual you" in the Spiritual world.
You do not have a body in Gods Kingdom because you ARE the beautiful bodily form - sat, Cit, ananda, VIGRAHA.
Eternity, Knowledge, Bliss, Form.
Is the subtle body that leaves the gross body the soul?
ReplyDeleteNo it is not the soul, that line of thinking is incorrect, and wrong according to vedic teachings
The subtle body or astral body is a MATERIAL vessel of mind, intelligence and false ego.
The subtle body is NOT a spiritual body, it is material, a vessel that carries the none material soul (jivatma) also decribed by Prabhupada as anti-matter.
This subtle material bodily vessel is what exists on heavenly and hellish worlds also, such living entities there do not have gross biological bodily vessels or container.
The subtle body is also a ghost body also, when one dies they leave their gross biological body in a subtle material vessel, the subtle is NOT spiritual in anyway.
The spiritual bodily form is who one really is.
Both the subtle and gross material coverings have nothing to do with the "the real self known as the individual jiva tattva which is an anti-material perpetual bodily form one is as their full potential in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan the Kingdom of God.
Unlike the subtle material body or the gross material body that ONLY exist in the material universes.
This material universes are NOT our real home, we should not even be in this temporary universe that is always in need of intense maitanance because the material universes are always in a state of decay and decline governed by Birth, disease, old age and death.
Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan in the perpetual Spiritual Sky, are our REAL home.
These ever youthful and fresh abodes of Lord Krishna are nothing like that horrible place called the material creation.
Those who claim the soul has no eternal bodily form are totally wrong.
ReplyDeleteTo go back home back to Godhead, one must try and find a pure devotee, then serve him by also being kind and preaching to others and eventually he will take you back home back to Godhead at the right time.
Look at the painting below of Krishna and all his wonderful eternal friends. The fact is, ALL jiva souls have a relationship like this with Krishna in their full spiritual potential.
The eternal nature of the soul (jivatma) is -
sat,
cit,
ananda,
vigraha
Which means -
eternity,
Knowledge,
bliss,
ETERNAL BODILY FORM.
The Veda's Bhagavat Purana teaches this, also known as the Srimad Bhagavatam.
Those who deny the soul IS a bodily form in its full potential, are called impersonalists and mayavadis.
The soul has an eternal relation with God AS A PERSON, therefore Vaishnavas are called PERSONALIST.
Denying bodily form of the soul on the spiritual level is worse than going to the deepest regions of hell!
Impersonalists are committing spiritual suicide by denying their individual perpetual spiritual bodily form that is called "svarupa", and instead, they foolishly attempt to merge into some nonsense "all one pervasive" suicidal light and become "one with God".
Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Srila Prabhupada teach Personalism, we are eternal persons AS bodily forms in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan the perpetual Kingdoms of God (Krishna).
This is the full potential of our eternal individual identity.
Sadly, there are many bogus impersonal nonsense Mayavadi gurus out there who deny the individuality and perpertual form of the individual soul (jivatma) and their personal unique relationship with the Lord (Krishna) who is also an eternal Person AS bodily form and the cause of all causes.