Sunday, November 7, 2021

Sadly, many devotees have a wrong understanding of spiritual communism, it is nothing like useless suppressive dictatorial communism in the material creation.

The fact is, human society at the present moment is NOT in the darkness of oblivion Prabhupada tells us in Srimad Bhagavatam.

Even though Srila Prabhupada also made many doom and gloom comments about modern society, such as World War 3 (1974) etc, he made other possive comments as well based on the power of our preaching can change everything.

Prabhupada was really telling us that this temporary decaying material creation is NOT our real home, and we should prepare ourselves to get out of this material creation as soon as we can, and go back home back to Godhead.

Srila Prabhupada also made POSITIVE comments about preaching and how Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Movement will SAVE the world, totally opposite to those doom and gloom comments claiming we will see in our life time the total collapse of Society.

I do NOT believe or accept those comments, and here is why in Prabhupada's own words- 

Srila Prabhupada - "The human society, at the present moment, is NOT in the darkness of oblivion. It has made rapid progress in the field of material comforts of life, education and economic development of the entire world. But it suffers a pin-prick somewhere in the social body at large and therefore there is large scale quarrel even on less important issues. Therefore there is the want of the clue as to how they can become one in peace, friendship and prosperity by the common cause. Srimad Bhagavatam will fill up this gap by ontological aspect of human education. It is therefore a cultural presentation for re-spiritualisation of the entire human society." (Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Preface)

Actually, I was in Prabhupada's room when he explained the nature of the material world is ALWAYS in a state of decay, decline and in need of contant maintenance, but no, it will NOT finish in our life time or our children's life time, that is 432,000 years from now. Over the next 5000 years though, things will get better.

Prabhupada said 50 years ago in 1974, the world will eventually end in nuclear holocaust.

However, today in 2023 the world is a lot better than it was in the 1970s, way better now!!

Today, we can preach all over the world including Russia, Ukraine and other old Soviet countries, unlike what we could do in the 1970s.

Even in the the world wide Covid 19 pandemic between 2020 to 2023 that killed 8 million people, the world is far better than instability of the 1970s

Prabhupada said by the strength of Sankirtan we CAN change the Soviet Union, and that will change the world for better - and that has happened!!

In different morning walks and room conversations Prabhupada said so many things, but also made many possitive comments too totally opposite to those doom and gloom comments he made, I was there.

Ramsevara has said very pessimistic doom and gloom comments he claims was made to him by Prabhupada about what will happen in our life time.

Srila Prabhupada often made the point that NOTHING is permanent in this material world, everything is in a constant state of decomposition AND decay and eventually every great empire crumbles and falls apart in the material world.

However, in our life time Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu's great Sankirtan movement and Prabhupada's Book distribution WILL spiritualise our entire society. 

So, I reject the nonsense coming from Ramesvara. His claim of what Prabhupada said, is his own silly nonsense!  

Ramesvara's "rant" is not on database because their is no recording, just his doom and gloom nonsense speculation.

But Prabhupada also told us different in his room in Melbourne in 1976, from Ramesvara's nonsense comments he "claims" Prabhupada told him (that I do not believe) on the way to Kumba Mela.

To the contrary, Prabhupada told us that a coming World War 3 prediction CAN be averted by our strong preaching and our preaching about Lord Caitanya CAN save the world.

And he said it will begin by being accepted in the Soviet block, that happened in 1988 and today ISKCON is booming throughout Russia, Ukraine, Poland, etc even though there is a war going on between two old Soviet Union States, Ukraine and Russia.

It's almost like a civil war, the fact is,  80% of Ukraine speak Russian and the West especially the UK and the United States hate Russia and make out this war is worse than what it really is.

So, no, the world will NOT collapse in our life time due to a third world war. 

A population of nearly 8 billion world wide is there for a reason that was lass than 3 billion in 1965-

The Golden Age of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu has already begun. 

The world will NOT collapse in our life time or our children's life time, things WILL get better long before they get worse because of adancing Kali-yuga.

Srila Prabhupada - "The human society, at the present moment, is NOT in the darkness of oblivion. It has made rapid progress in the field of material comforts of life, education and economic development of the entire world. But it suffers a pin-prick somewhere in the social body at large and therefore there is large scale quarrel even on less important issues. Therefore there is the want of the clue as to how they can become one in peace, friendship and prosperity by the common cause. Srimad Bhagavatam will fill up this gap by ontological aspect of human education. It is therefore a cultural presentation for re-spiritualisation of the entire human society." (ŚB, Preface)

Many devotees do not understand other comments by Srila Prabhupada that nullify what he said in 1973 that society would be finished within 50 years because communism will try to take over.

Well, that never happened!!

Prabhupada said if communism collapses and we open Temples all over Russia and the other Communist block countries like Ukraine and Poland etc, then that changes everything Prabhupada told us in his room! 

That is a big preaching game changer!

Some devotees today remind me of Christians who have been walking around with placards since the 12th Century claiming we are in the "last day."

What does decay and wears out is the material bodily vessel we are in as a passenger

So, that does not mean all other things will NOT be finished in 2 or 3 years!! (by 2022) Only fools would believe that silly nonsense.

However, yes, eventually EVERYTHING will be finished because all thing are temporary in the material world and Kali-yuga (that goes for 432,000 years) does get worse and eventually very hellish. 

But not now in the early 21st Century. 

In fact, over the next 5000 years the Hare Krsna movement will grow and the globe we live on WILL get better. 

But eventually, 10,000 years from now, there will be no more Hare Krsna on this planet, most devotees would have left, leaving only thevmost selfish materialistic people.

Death can come at anytime and we must prepare ourselves for that by training ourselves to always remember Kṛṣṇa and NEVER forget Him.

The fact is preaching today in the 2020s is far better than it was in the ignorance of the 1970s.

For example, just look at last years Moscow Rathayatra or the massive Hare Krsna festivals in Poland.

Such things were impossible 50 years ago, things are NOT getting worse they ARE far better!!

Sadly, many devotees have a wrong understanding of spiritual communism, it is nothing like useless communism in the material creation.

The relationship with Krsna is VOLUNTARY in the spiritual world and has NOTHING to do with material communism.

Real communism means that the qualities of the jiva-soul all have the same equality which is 78.125% of Krsna’s qualities which is having 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, VOLUNTARY, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - “In the spiritual world how one serves Kṛṣṇa is always VOLUNTARY. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he become flower, VOLUNTARY, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

The individual jiva-souĺs have THEIR choices too, EVEN if that choice means rejecting Krsna! If you cannot reject Krsna then you have no free will Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly".

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Talk Srila Prabhupada about Rene Descartes)

Hare Krsna ..*^^^*..















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