"Free will" for the individual jiva-souls is eternally sanctioned by Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, for the purpose of allowing voluntarily unique contributions from His dear devotees.

Love can never be experienced by just "one," there must be "two" involved in an open "two-way" exchange of personal expressions and offerings, otherwise the individual jiva-souls are no better than none contributing mindless dead stone Prabhupada has warned us. 

Krsna first gives His sanction to the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) so they can have their unique freedom (free will)

So how do we understand that in Krsna's creation the individual jiva-souls have the freedom to do what they want, even rejecting Krsna if they choose?

The fact is, the individual jiva-souls always have their "free will" eternally in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavan for the simple reason that without free will, and the unique ability to choose for themselves as an independent person involved voluntarily in a "two-way" relationship of loving exchanges and cooperation, then reciprocal progressive love with Krsna is not possible. 

This is why Krsna always allows "free will" to be part and parcel of the constitutional makeup of the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities). 

Furthermore, there was never a time where Krsna never granted this freedom (free will) for the individual jiva-souls because only by having free will in their own unique way, can one express themselves in a voluntary way that is the only way to allow loving exchanges to grow, expand and flourish. 

Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world how one wants to associate with Kṛṣṇa is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he become flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Ultimately, it is by Krsna's will and favour the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) have this "free will" because they are expansions of Krsna who also has free will.

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, meaning He is the Supreme controller of all things which means nothing can take place without His sanction and approval first.

"Not a blade of grass can move without the will of the Lord" 

Krsna always allows "free will" for His devotees for the purpose of eternally giving them (the individual jiva-souls) the opportunity to voluntarily contribute in their own unique way their own offerings to Krsna out of love. 

This means an independent mood of self expression with unique personal exchanges are forever expressed and offered to Krsna by the individual jiva-souls, which means they can always be thoughtful cooperative contributing individual persons if they choose.

The fact is, real love can never be a "one-sided" or "one-way" dictatorship. 

Genuine love is always based on a continuous building of loving relationships based on "two-way" loving exchanges and reciprocation as said above. 

Love is only possible between "two," between Krsna and His individual devotees as explained above, always expressed in a "two-way" cooperative mood of loving reciprocation and exchanges. 

Therefore, the individual jiva-souls in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, are never denied "free will" by Krsna, they eternally have their own personality, character and unique individual sense of self.

For those who are denied "free will," they will only experience mindless cold emotions as a loveless drone in an impersonal Kingdom. 

If the individual jiva-souls every thoughts and actions are fully controlled by their so called God or supreme leader, who denies personal contributions, then that makes them no better than dead useless stone and impersonalists.

So having "free will" is always part and parcel of the marginal living entities eternal spiritual constitution in the spiritual world.

If Krsna had absolute control over all the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in the spiritual world, denying individual contributions and independent thought explained above, then the "Kingdom of God" would be an impersonalists mindless loveless useless unproductive paradise!

Therefore, ultimately within the most intense loving emotional exchanges between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls, there is always free will, there are always individual choices of expressions and personal offerings because without free will, there can never be any loving voluntary exchanges on a two-way street that create good feelings on both sides.

If the individual jiva-souls do not have the freedom to think for themselves independently, then how can voluntary loving exchanges exist? 

Voluntary service and loving exchanges with Krsna is based on free will.

A loving relationship with Krsna is not possible without free will because loving exchanges are a very personal unique expression of feelings shared voluntary with one's beloved.

This is the gateway for the individual jiva-souls to surrender to Krsna, that is only possible when a "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation and cooperation exists between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls, such intelligent mutual respect is the real meaning of surrender.

Srila Prabhupada - "Surrender BY your intelligence but don't surrender your intelligence." (Letter to Bali Mardan 1974)

Without having "choices," the individual jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna is impersonal and mindless, there can be no question of loving exchanges without free will as explained above. 

This is because if it is just a "one-sided affair" with no input from the individual jiva-souls, then how can their be genuine loving exchanges?

This idea of Krsna completely taking over the individual jiva-soul's free will, in the name of surrender, and denying any independent thoughful voluntary contributions from the individual jiva-souls, is nonsense impersonalism that many foolish bogus so called spiritual gurus teach and cheat their naive disciples with.

Loving exchanges are only possible when it is allowed to be governed by self-expression in a reciprocal relationship between "two individuals," the individual jiva-souls and Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

This loving reciprocation is always expressed in its full potential in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavan, but serverly covered in the material creation where free will is suppressed and almost none existant in the human species.

And certainly not in the lower species of life in the material creation where the instincts of-

eating, 

sleeping, 

mating,

defending.

All the above control the individual jiva-souls who are trapped in a decaying material bodily vessel in the lower species of life.

Karma is not created in the lower species of life, or on the hellish and heavenly planets and free will also does not exist in the lower species of material life.

This means 8 million species of life are unable to express free will and also can never create karma.

Only humans on the middle planetary systems (Bhurloka), a variety of 400,000 species, does minute free will exist and karma created. 

Also, it is foolish and total nonsense to think Krsna overides and extinguishes the individual jiva-soul's "free will" and individuality when they enter the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavan.

One should understand that being part and parcel of Krsna means the individual jiva-souls can etenally make independent choices for themselves on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka Vrindavan while serving Visnu and Krsna, or can even choose to reject Viṣṇu and Krsna if they want. 

Many immature devotees still do not understood this properly today because they foolishly believe "surrender" means allowing Krsna to take over your every thought, deeds, actions and free will.

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

The fact is, real love (prema) or devotional service is only possible when there is creative voluntary contributions offered to Krsna by the individual jiva-souls. 

Surrendering to Krsna does not mean extinguishing your individuality, sense of self or free will.

Love can never be experienced by just one, not even by Krsna, even He had to divide Himself into two (Radha and Kṛṣṇa) just to experience loving exchanges and reciprocation with another.

So let's be clear, loving relationships in the spiritual world are always based on the reciprocation between "two" because love can only exist when there is a caring respectful nurturing relationship between two, between Kṛṣṇa and His disciples the individual jiva-souls.

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Ultimately, each individual jiva-soul is a unique person as a spiritual bodily form who can choose for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him if they want.

Unless this is allowed by Kṛṣṇa, then there can be no possibility of free will ever existing. In other words, both scenarios must be allowed if real freedom or free will is to truly exist.

As Prabhupada explains, Krsna never forces you to surrender to Him, never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary otherwise genuine love can never exist.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

Krsna never interferes with the free will of the individual jiva-souls.

Srila Prabhupada - "As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice," "Yes," Kṛṣṇa says, "yes, you go", otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls to be independent persons with their own unique personality because only then can they voluntarily contribute in their relationship with Krsna in a "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation and service.

As Prabhupada has also said, having free will also means the individual jiva-souls can reject Krsna too if they choose. As said above, free will must also include that the individual jiva-souls can reject Kṛṣṇa if they choose.

As explained above, Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls to have their freedom because it allows them to voluntarily express themselves in their own unique way as an individual. 

In this way one's association with Krsna is always a "two-way" relationship.  

This is better than being surrounded by "individual jiva-souls" who are "mindless drones" impersonally programmed to worship Krsna without personal contributions and individual inputs.

Such an impersonal "one-sided" relationship is not love at all, real love can never exist on a "one-way" street, which is a "one-sided" domineering dictatorship.  

Real love can only exist between "two persons" in a "two-way" relationship of loving exchanges, cooperation and reciprocation.

If Krsna surrounded Himself with none thinking contributing individual jiva-souls He does all the thinking for, then how can there be love? Love means two, not one! Such oneness is impersonalism

The individual jiva-souls are independent marginal living entities who can surrender and love Krsna in their own unique way, supported by Krsna.

Krsna does not force His dominance over the individual jiva-souls like a puppet master controls his puppets with impersonal strings.

It is complete nonsense to think "surrender" means only Krsna controls all loving emotions and expressions between Himself and the individual jiva-souls, and overrides their free will, independence, individuality and voluntary contributions, by choosing everything for them once they enter the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Actually, this kind of mindless impersonal "surrender" is spiritual suicide to a Vaisnava. That kind of forceful dominance over the individual jiva-souls is Mayavadi impersonalism!

Therefore, to say the individual jiva-souls can never choose to fall down from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavan is also nonsense because they have a choice, to stay with Krsna, or leave Krsna, always.

Although, Prabhupada told us that only less than 10% of individual jiva-souls make that choice to leave the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavan, while the rest (over 90%) do not choose to fall down to the temporary material mundane world.

It is the individual jiva-souls who can decide, who eternally have a choice too that Krsna allows, just so they can experience their full freedom that includes rejecting Krsna if they want.

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, that independence has to be accepted, little independence, we can misuse that." (Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)

Krsna never surrounds Himself with mindless drones programmed just to love Him unconditionally, no, Krsna does not want emotionally stagnant servants like that who can never voluntary contribute to their relationship with Krsna.

We are all unique individual jiva-souls who each have a unique individual sense of self that can voluntarily contribute to one's relationship with Krsna.

Each individual jiva-soul is able to voluntarily provide their own unique offerings in their own personal individual way to Krsna. This is what "personalism" means.

Therefore, only through reciprocation and loving exchanges between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls, is what makes selfless love (Krsnaprema) real on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and remaing there.

The individual jiva-souls are expansions of Krsna but with minor independent qualities that allows them to express themselves with their own voluntary actions based on free will in their own way.

The individual jiva-souls are endowed with independence, and an individual unique personality that enables them to experience their independent personality separate from Krsna's Divine Personality.

Krsna allows this freedom (free will) to exist with His individual jiva-souls because He wants them to experience "a sense of independent self" that allows them to have feelings, voluntarily contribute in their own way, and experience loving exchanges with Krsna as an independent person.

Loving exchanges are only possible between "two," the individual jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

This however, does not means the individual jiva-souls are fully independent from Krsna's control, no, that is not possible because Krsna is behind everything in His creation, He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. 

At all times, the individual jiva-souls are always dependent on Krsna, even while eternally experiencing their independence nature. 

So, the individual jiva-souls are always independent individual living entities yet simultaneously fully depend on Krsna and His Visnu-tattva expansions in both the spiritual worlds and material worlds at all times.

So, even though the individual jiva-souls are an expansion of Krsna, the individual jiva-souls are not "one" with Krsna's Personality because they have their own independent, unique personality as explained above.

The loving expressions between Krsna and His more direct Visnu-tattva expansions are different from His relationship with the individual jiva-souls.

The fact is all Visnu-tattva expansions of Krsna are Krsna just playing another role in His own pastimes.

Surrender to Krsna never extinguishes the individual jiva-souls ability of having self-expression, individuality, and a unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality.

The Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are the Kingdoms of God, where the individual jiva-soul's independent identity and personal contributions enables them to make voluntary ''personal choices'' in their offerings to Visnu or Krsna in the spirit of reciprocation and loving selfless exchanges.

Love in this way is the "highest meaning of independent thinking" by "choosing" to voluntary be fully dependent on Krsna in the mood of devotional loving exchanges.

Love can only exist when their are exchanges between two, love can never exist with just one! Such "oneness" is nonsense impersonalism as explained above. 

Therefore, surrendering to Krsna never extinguishes the individual jiva-soul's ability of self-expression, individuality, or their unique personality.

Loving exchanges between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls are the highest meanings of independent expressions and actions in genuine devotional service.

Love can only exist when their are voluntary exchanges between two, love can never exist with just one as explained here by Prabhupada-

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed by only one, there must be two. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973) 

Love can only exist when their are exchanges between two, love can never exist when there is just one. 

The spiritual world is full of unlimited variety and variegatedness, therefore Krsna only wants those who actually voluntarily choose to be with Him and serve Him. 

Real love is reciprocal and can only exist between two, it is never a "one-way street" where surrender to Krsna takes away one's unique ability of self-expression and voluntary service, that will only make one no better than dead stone.

As explained above, in this mundane material temporary world, it is not possible to experience "free will" in its full potential, in fact, the concept of "free will" is almost no existent. It is only possible on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka Vrindavan. 

Our only education should be being trained up from a very young age to go back home back to Godhead and not try or plan to make these decaying temporary material worlds of suffering our home.**==.

"Generated" from Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, means the individual jiva-souls belong to the spiritual platform (anti-matter) of eternal individual living entities, who were never born and who will never die, called the "marginal living entities, marginal plane or marginal potency."

The individual jiva-souls are NOT created from the marginal plane because eternally they ARE the marginal plane. 

The individual jiva-souls are eternally existing spiritual persons who, through their free will, are positioned to voluntarily interact with both spiritual and material energies.

As said above, the eternal individual jiva-souls being generated from the marginal plane, does not mean at one point they were created, or originated from some beginning point in the spiritual sky.

The word "marginal" means the individual jiva-souls can remain in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (anti-matter), or they can enter the decaying material world as the individual eternal spiritual personality they are, but immediately become covered by "matter" in the form of a temporary material bodily vessel.

The individual jiva-souls were never created and have no origin as Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter two text 12 to text 30 explains.

"Generated" therefore means the individual jiva-souls belong to a category of eternal individual personalities who are beginningless and endless called the marginal living entities (eternal individual jiva-souls) whose eternal and original home is Goloka-Vrindavana or the Vaikuntha planets in the spiritual world.  

The individual jiva-souls were never created, nor literally "generated" from any origin, because they have always existed, and will continue to exist as individual spiritual bodily "persons" eternally.

As said above, "Generated" means the individual jiva-souls eternally belong to a platform or category of eternal living entities called the "marginal living entities or marginal potency." 

The individual jiva-souls are eternal persons as a spiritual bodily form whose eternal natural eternal home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana that take up 75% of the Spiritual Sky, but some (less then 10%) are now presently covered by a material bodily vessel in progressive decay within the temporary material world that takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky.

Falling to the material world of repeated birth and death means being possibly covered by the 8 million 400 species of material bodily forms in the material world.  

The individual jiva-souls or marginal living entities are eternal spiritual personalities as a spiritual bodily form for infinity.

Generated clearly means the eternal individual jiva-souls are part and parcel of an eternal category of living entities collectively known as the marginal energy or plane of individual jiva-souls.

Furthermore, the individual jiva-souls did not originate from the impersonal brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti, the Body of Maha-Visnu or even Kṛṣṇa. They never came into being or were generated from a beginning point because the individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless and were never created as Bhagavad Gita As It Is chapter two explains, they have always existed over infinity.

The individual jiva-souls never originated or were generated from tatastha-sakti as some claim because again, there is no origin for the individual jiva-souls who like Krsna and Viṣṇu, eternally exist. 

In other words, just like Krsna has always existed, so has His marginal potency, the individual jiva-souls.

So this clearly means the individual jiva-souls never originated, or were generated (created) from the impersonal (inactive) brahmajyoti, the Body of Maha-Visnu, or the fallen condition known as tatastha-sakti.

All three are fallen conditions for the individual jiva-souls, whose real eternal natural home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana in the spiritual world.  

So what is the correct understanding of tatastha-sakti?

Taṭastha-sakti is another name for marginal living entities (eternal individual jiva-souls) who can be either under the influence of the spiritual energy, or the material energy. 

The individual jiva-souls are NOT between the spiritual energy and the material energy as some wrongly claim because the individual jiva-souls are ALWAYS part and parcel of the spiritual energy. 

Even when fallen and covered in the material world with a material bodily vessel, the individual jiva-souls ALWAYS remain a spiritual personality, they are NEVER inbetween matter and spirit, they are only covered by matter in the form of a material bodily vessel.

Whether in the spiritual world or covered in the material world, the individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) are eternally a spiritual bodily person.

Srila Prabhupada - "So this temporary material world is the taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the permanent (personal) characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics and enter the permanent (personal)  characteristics. That is called spiritual elevation." (Lecture CC, Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York City, Dec 28, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā to the material world, it is called taṭastha śakti." (Lecture BG, Ch 7 Text 4-5 Bombay, March 30, 1971)

Maya or the temporary material energy does not exist in the spiritual world however, free will eternally exists there and allows the individual jiva-souls to make their own decisions of voluntary offerings and contributions, and even accept or reject Krsna if they choose. 

Srimad Bhagavatam explains the fall down of the marginal living entity (individual jiva-souls) from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana to the material world, in the 4th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, Chapter 28 text 53, where the Supreme Lord is disguised as a brahmana.

The brāhmaṇa said - "My dear friend, even though you cannot immediately recognize Me, can't you remember that in the past you had a very intimate friend? Unfortunately, you gave up My company and accepted a position as enjoyer of this material world." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 28 text 53)

The inactive brahman effulgence (impersonal brahmajyoti or void) worshipped by impersonalists, mundane religionists, Buddhists and mayavadis, is "fallen conditions" the individual jiva-souls fall down too, but can never remain in that "fallen condition" of inactivity eternally. 

Eventually, they are forced to leave that dormant condition because the nature of the individual jiva-souls are to be always "active" in the service of Krsna and not remain inactive. 

So, eventually the fallen individual jiva-souls leave the impersonal brahmajyoti or void and again take birth in the material world.

Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana dasa - "That means all individual jīva-souls there in the impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti) are also fallen souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

We are all equally old individual jiva-souls because we have ALWAYS eternally existed without any beginning point, nor will we ever cease to be as explained above.

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS, as a spiritual bodily form, who can never be destroyed, cut into pieces, terminated or extinguished because the individual jiva-souls are indestructible.

This means there was no beginning to the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) existence, nor will there be an end or no new individual jiva-souls ever being created because they have always existed as explained here-

Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

The eternal individual jiva-souls can even choose, due to free will, to stay embodied in the temporary decaying material universe's cycles of birth and death, and cycles of material annihilation and creations for an almost infinity, but ultimately it is all temporary.

So the conclusion is, there is no origin to Krsna's individual marginal living energy (an unlimited number of eternal individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed, which is eternity.

We must understand from Srila Prabhupada's teachings the real meaning of surrender, voluntary devotional service, loving exchanges, free will and the need to always remember Krsna and never forget Him.

In the spiritual world's of Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets, surrender to Krsna, through loving voluntary devotional service, is never a "one-way or one-sided" impersonal relationship that denies individual unique contributions and offerings from the devotees in a two-way exchange of loving reciprocation. 

Real love or service to Radha and Krsna in the spiritual world is always voluntary, based on wonderful loving reciprocal exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees.

Voluntary service in the Kingdom of God (Krsna) is only genuinely expressed correctly in a "two-way" exchange of loving emotions based on devotional creative actions and thoughts.

Krsna always sanction's "free will" in the spiritual world because He allows the individual jiva-souls to have their own unique independent voluntary skills of self expression, and choice of personal offerings they present to Krsna.

Without free will, the individual jiva-souls can never participate in voluntarily expressing their unique love for Kṛṣṇa, that enrich, expand and add unlimited varigatedness to the relationship.

The individual jiva-soul's (marginal living entities) relationship with Krsna, is naturally a "two-way" personal partnership sharing loving exchanges based on reciprocation, voluntary cooperation, and pleasing Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.  

Krsna gives the individual jiva-souls "free will" for the purpose to allow "love to exist" which means of allowing a "two-way" to participation by having loving exchanges. 

Such loving exchanges can never exist with only "one" making all the decisions, not even if it is Krsna, there must be always be two-way exchange with God (Krsna) otherwise "love" can never exist!

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means a relationship between "two-persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Love can only exist in a "two-way" exchange of intimate expressions. Only a "two-sided" cooperation expands one's unique individual voluntary contributions presented to Krsna as personal offerings.

On the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, personal expressions of loving exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees can only be expressed and acted upon by having free will. 

Such freedom of expression is always encouraged by Krsna in His relationship with His devotees (the individual jiva-souls that add flavour, variety and mystery to their association.

This means the Kingdom of God (Krsna's abode) is not a "one-sided" dominating impersonal stagnant domain devoid of personal unique offerings that will only deny personal contributions (offerings) to God (Krsna), meant to expand, enrich and forever flavour the relationship with Kṛṣṇa with unlimited variety.

As said above, love or service is not a "one-sided" affiliate of total supremacy or pre-eminence, it is rather an act of voluntary participation and personal unique contributions, only then can real love exist.

So we must understand that genuine loving relations and service are based on voluntary reciprocal exchanges and contributions between two and not just one!

Loveless Impersonalism is excluding the voluntary act of self expression and denying a two-way cooperative relationship with God (Krsna). 

The individual jiva-souĺs have their choices too, even if that choice means rejecting Krsna. 

Free will only has meaning when the individual jiva-souls have a choice to express themselves in a "two-sided" voluntary way with, or without Krsna. This means the individual jiva-souls can reject Krsna if they choose, which in a sense proves that "free will" does truly exist.

Only then can genuine free will exist.

In other words, loving reciprocation is only possible in a "two-way" exchange between two individuals with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows of service.

The word "reciprocation" only has meaning when there are two involved in a cooperative relationship, reciprocation has no meaning with just one.

Impersonalism is understood in this way, the puppeter has total control over his puppets by manipulating the strings that control their every actions, they only act accordingly to what the puppeter does with his strings, the puppets have no thoughts of their own or or have any sense of an individual existence.

Similarly, the individual jiva-souls are NOT Krsna's mindless emotionless puppets or drones like that. 

Those who think surrendering to Krsna in the impersonal way by become His mindless puppet by only doing what He demands, are dangerous mayavadis who are foolishly attempting to commit spiritual suicide.

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is "oneness," so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

The Kingdom of Kṛṣṇa is nothing like that, Kṛṣṇa only wants those devotees who think for themselves, and who voluntary choose to serve in their way to please Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will." (Philosophy Discussions, Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Having "free will" (freedom of thoughts and actions) is the eternal constitutional make up of every "marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul)," and is the foundation that begins all the jiva-soul's interactions with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good. That is not love, that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and don't offer you anything in return, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then there is love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love can only exist in a relationship between "two-persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is also spiritual bodily form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore, it is to be assumed that the spirit soul ALWAYS has got form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The individual spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri dasa – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – [describing material form first]: "Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri dasa - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he become flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

The full potential and unique expression of the individual jiva-soul is eternally a spiritual bodily form always active in Krsna's pastimes. And no two individual jiva-souls (devotees) are the same, each have their own unique characteristics. 

The individual jiva-soul in its full potential is not some impersonal formless spark dormant or inactive in Krsna's Bodily effulgence (the impersonal inactive aspect of the brahmajyoti). The eternal original natural of the individual jiva-souls is to be always active in Krsna's service and pastimes as explained above.

Srila Prabhupada – “The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul.” (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is spiritual bodily form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Krsna allows the eternal individual jiva-souls (devotees) in the spiritual world to continually re-invent themselves by voluntarily serving in a capacity they choose by making their own unique contributions and offerings.

This allows diversity and an unlimited range of variegatedness in the devotee's personal service to Krsna that is forever expanding their progressive independent contributions in the Kingdom of God (Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana) infinitely expanding their voluntary participation, personal contributions and inspiration in an unlimited variety of unique ways serving and associating with Krsna in His never ending expanding blissful pastimes (lilas)

Krsna allows the individual jiva-souls (His devotees) to have their "free will" because He wants to see unique voluntary independent self expressions of voluntary love towards Him from His devotee's personal choices with their own unique thoughtful contributions on their own.

Krsna wants His devotees to voluntarily be personally creative in their independent offerings, friendship and service to Him.

In other words, Kṛṣṇa wants a "two-sided" open reciprocal cooperative contributing relationship of loving exchanges with His intimate devotees, where they can voluntarily express themselves as they choose, in their own unique way, as separate independent individuals from Krsna, yet simultaneously fully dependent on Him due to being His parts and parcels.

This means the devotees of Krsna should never surrender to a mindless puppetry “one-sided" dominating relationship, where the devotee is ordered what to think, and how to serve without being encouraged to think for themselves with their own unique personal voluntary contributions. 

Such a nonsense “one-sided” relationship is a loveless dictatorship and impersonalism that denies individual self expression!

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling, then there is love, not achieved by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good. That is not love, that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and don't offer you anything in return, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then there is love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love can only exist in a relationship between "two-persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

As said above, real love (service) is voluntary and can never exist on a “one-way" path because love can only exists when "two" are involved in voluntary reciprocal contributing loving exchanges.

Krsna allows free will (voluntary self-expression) so His devotees can experience their own unique individuality and make their own unique offerings (contributions) to Him in a way that forever expands loving exchanges and reciprocation in a "two-way" transition between Kṛṣṇa and the devotee which is never a "one-sided" non-contributing loveless dictatorship.

In this way, "free will" only eternally exists for Krsna's devotees because Krsna wants a "two-way" contributing open relationship with His devotees, therefore Krsna always encourages self expression and unique personal contributions from His dear devotees that make the relationship a "two-sided" exchange of loving emotions.

The relationship with Krsna must be this way because love can never be experienced with just one, there must two in an open "two-sided" reciprocal relationship of mutual returns and voluntary cooperation.

This is what it means to feel like a significant person who can voluntary choose what they want to contribute and offer to Krsna out of genuine selfless love.

This allows the individual jiva-souls to take humble pride in their service, actions and thoughts, allowing them to feel significant, like a meaningful individual person always with something unique and wonderful to offer to Krsna.=#=.

In Maha-Visnu's Block universe (lifeless matter) known as the material creation (mahat-tattva), every possible material bodily vessel combination eternally exists within the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

These material bodily vessels from Maha-Visnu's dreams are possessed (hired) by the individual jiva-soul (living anti-matter) and experienced on the pathway of "past, present and future" moving through the dreams of Maha-Visnu also known as the Block universal material creation. 

All individual life originates from the spiritual world known as the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the individual jiva-souls original home) and NEVER from the material world, the impersonal brahmajyoti or the Body of Maha-Visnu.

After entering the material creation (matter) due to falling down from the spiritual world (anti-matter), the individual jiva-soul "hires" (possess) a material bodily container from Maha-Visnu's dreams (the Block universe).

The "Block universe" is all that exists in Maha-Visnu's material creation, its past, present and future" all existing together simultaneously.

The Block material universe is a universal "Library" made up of an unlimited and endless variety of material bodily vessels (posts) that the individual jiva-souls can "hire" from the material creator of the material world, Maha-Visnu, and occupy a material bodily vessel in the material world, like one wears a garment of clothing that matches their mood and desires.

In the "Block universe" (also known as material energy), everything there, including all material bodily containers or vessels, are extensions of the material creation (matter), including past, present and future. Only the individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) are NOT part of the material creation which is not their original home.

As said above, within the Block universe (material creation) every possible material scenario exists where the jiva-souls (individual units of anti-matter) flows through the Block universe's material bodily vessels riding on the movement of past, present and future, in-sync with the individual jiva-soul's desires that simultaneously exists in the "Block material universe" that are the dreams of Maha-Visnu. 

The fallen individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) who are originally from the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (also anti-matter), have to possess a material bodily container or outward vessel that allows them to experience the temporary material world. 

Only a very few rare individual jiva-souls can see past, present and future all at once, like one can see an entire roadway (its beginning, it's middle and it's end), the flow though the Block universe via material time's past, present and future.

In the temporary material world the individual jiva-souls have to purchase a material bodily vessel off Maha-Visnu so they can enter the material world.  

"Free will" in the material world mostly does not exist. 

While moving through the block universe the desires and Karma (one's actions and their reactions while in human form) takes them to where they get their rewards or punishment, already eternally existing in the "block universe." 

Only in the human species does the individual jiva-souls have a little freedom, while all the other species of life in the material world (8 million) progress by instincts only-

Eating

Sleeping 

Mating

Defending. 

The movement of past, present and future is the passage-way the individual jiva-souls travel-by on their journey through the material world. This is how they travel and move through the "block material universe."

The "block universe" is the material world made up of Maha-Visnu's dreams that can be "hired" off Him by the individual jiva-souls so they are able to enter the material world in a material bodily vessel or container. 

In the material universe all time - past, present and future, exist simultaneously.

The material universe contains everything that has ever happened and will happen at any time and at any place.

The Vedas texts have the most advanced explanation of material time that recognises the individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) as not material and therefore not from the material energy or creation (matter).

Many do not understand that "life" (anti-matter) is not originally part of the material universe (the block universe).

Everything existing in the material creation (the block universe) is contained within the dreams of Maha-Visnu, He provides all material bodily vessels or containers for visting individual jiva-souls, who have come to the block (material world) from the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (the spiritual world)

Maha-Visnu provides the individual jiva-souls a material bodily container aquired from His dreams so they can experience the material universes.

Everything that there is in the material universe is within Maha-Visnu's dreams, as said above, all material bodily vessels are provided by Maha-Visnu so one can experience the material creation. He is actually dreaming all these material universes.

Only the 1/4 of all existence is the material creation (matter), the rest (3/4) is the spiritual world (anti-matter) 

According to the block universe, all things that have ever happen, and all things that will happen are equally real but experienced as temporary because the individual jiva-souls travels through the block universe riding on the fabric of past, present and future.

All that there is in the material world, and all that will ever be, including our birth [the entry into the material world (matter) from the spiritual world (anti-matter)], all exist a permanent fixtures of the block universe.

In the block universe, the individual jiva-soul only passes through it like one travels on an already built highway, from its beginning, to its middle, to its end.

Where we are "today" is present, and "yesterday" is past, and "tomorrow" is future.

The present moment changes too, after all, tomorrow it will seem as though tomorrow is present, and yesterday it appeared yesterday was present!

So, from our perspective, it appears that time flows or passes. But in the actual block universe, time doesn't flow, only the individual jiva-souls experience the flow of time as THEY pass through the block universe. 

In other words, in a block universe, there is no specific present moment, and "past" and "future" moments are relative to the visiting individual jiva-souls only.

What is time?

The block universe explains that the "present" or "now" works just like we are communicating "here" because all it means to communicate in the moment is all about the present, or now, is to communicate in a place in time where you happen to be.

Since we are always located wherever we are (that's trivially true), everyone is located in the present, just as everyone is located at the place they call "here."

According to the block universe view, time or temporal relations of "earlier than" and "later than" exist. These relations hold regardless of where anyone is located.

Bearing this in mind, it is possible to see how to make sense of the idea of past and future. Just as on this model "now" picks out whatever time I happen to be located at, "past" picks out any time (or events at those times) that are earlier than my location, and "future" picks out any times or events that are later than my location.

Time is the 4th dimension. 

So, if I can travel in time, can I change the past?

No. That would create a contradiction, and there are no contradictions time is set in stone and all past, present and future exist simultaneously within Maha-Visnu's dreams.

Albert Einstein's special theory of relativity states time passes at different rates for people moving relative to each other. What I do tomorrow makes tomorrow the way it is, and the way it always has been. What I do in the past makes the past time the way it is, and always has been.

The events in the block universe (Maha-Visnu dreaming the material universe) are there for all time: His dreams do not change. So, as a time traveller, it's not as though I suddenly appear at a past time. It's always been the case that I am located at that past time.

Nothing a time traveller does changes anything in the block universe which are the dreams of Maha-Visnu that encompass all that there is, all that was, and all that there is in the future. 

Everything in the material universes are contained within the dreams of Maha Visnu, He provides all material bodily vessels or containers for individual jiva-souls visiting the material creation (The block universe), giving them all a material bodily container from His dreams to experience the material universes.

As explained above, everything that there is in the material universes, is within Maha-Visnu's dreams, all bodily vessels are provided from Maha-Visnu so one can experience the material creation as they originally chose after leaving the spiritual world's of the Vaikunthas. He is actually dreaming all these material universes

Only a 1/4 of all existence is the material creation (lifeless matter), the rest (3/4) is the perpetual ever youthful and fresh spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (living anti-matter)

The movement of past, present and future is the passage-way the individual jiva-souls travel-by on their journey through the material world. This is how they travel and move through the "block material universe."

The block universe is EVERYTHING, it is the entire material world of past, present and future that are Maha-Visnu's dream. In the material universe all time - past, present and future, exist all at once simultaneously.

The material universe contains everything that has ever happened and will happen at any time and at any place.

The Vedas texts have the most advanced explanation of material time that recognises the individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) as not material and therefore not from the material energy, or the dreams of Maha-Visnu (the Block material universe).

Many do not understand that "life" (anti-matter) is not originally part of the material universe (the block universe), everything existing in the material creation is within the dreams of Maha-Visnu, He provides all material bodily vessels or containers for visting individual jiva-souls ("life") who have come to the block (material world) from the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana (the spiritual world)

Maha-Visnu provides the individual jiva-souls a material bodily container aquired from His dreams so they can experience the material universes.

Everything that there is in the material universes is within Maha-Visnu's dreams, as said above, all material bodily vessels are provided by Maha-Visnu so one can experience the material creation. Maha-Visnu is actually dreaming the entire material creation.///.