Loving service or surrender by the jiva-souls in their relationship with Visnu in Vaikuntha, and Krsna in Goloka Vrindavan, is NEVER a one-sided affair.
Sadly under a loveless "one-way" condition, the jiva-souls are denied being able to voluntarily express themselves and offer their own contributions to Krsna, that enriches the relationship of loving exchanges, making the association with Krsna a "personal two-way" exchange of loving affection.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is NEVER "one", there MUST always be "two" if there is to be genuine loving exchanges". (August 9, 1976, Tehran)
"Free will" in its full potential, is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, which are the jiva-souls original perpetual homes.
This wonderful boy Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, including the origin of all Narayana or Visnu forms of God.
Krsna is also the cause of the jiva-souls having their free will meant for the purpose of allowing the jiva-souls to make their own choices of how they want to serve Krsna in their own unique personal way, or even reject Krsna if they choose to do so.
This choice of accepting or rejecting Krsna must always be available to the jiva-souls if "real freedom" is to truly exist.
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There must always exist the ability to choose because love can never exist without the jiva-souls also voluntarily contributing to the relationship with Krsna and experiencing loving exchanges.
Such freedom (free will) of a two way relationship in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, allows loving exchanges to go on in a meaningful character building personal way between the jiva-souls and Krsna to be genuine.
If Krsna was in complete control of the jiva souls "individual thoughts and every action", this would extinguish the jiva-soul's personal independent identity and unique personality, sense of self and free will.
So under those impersonal conditions, how can their be a genuine voluntary exchange of love?
By denying the jiva-soul's their "free will" and ability to positively contribute to their relationship with Krsna in Goloka Vrindavan in their own unique way as an independent individual, then how can there be real genuine love?
Fortunately, the jiva-souls ALWAYS have the right to voluntarily contribute their own unique offerings to Krsna in the Spiritual World from their own individual level of self expression.
Only then can loving emotions, based on the reciprocation of good feelings and exchanges between two, work.
Real loving service or devotional exchanges will only work when there is a respectful relationship strongly founded in a "two-way" voluntary contributing relationship.
Therefore love can NEVER be experienced with just "one", there MUST be "two".
A loving relationship is always based on a "good exchange of loving feelings" and emotions between "two" Prabhupada tells us.
This idea that love is only found "within" one's self is not real love at all, it is both ignorance and impersonalism.
The same selfish impersonalism is pursued by the Mayavadi yogi as he attempts to extinguish his individual identity and personality, and enter or merge their individuality into the oneness of the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman.
This self indulgence of being selfishly merged within some nonsense inactive impersonal oneness of yogic trance, is spiritual suicide to a Vaisnava devotee of Krsna.
This is because the deluded jiva-soul as this impersonalist yogi, is attempting to deny their eternal individuality by ceasing all activity and becoming "one" with all things, which actually is an illusion.
Therefore the yogi falsely believes they have extinguished their unique individual identity and personality believing they have become "one" with God - another illusion.
Real love or service is NEVER a one way dominance, it ALWAYS means a two-way exchange of good feelings otherwise there is no possibility of love.
Love in the Spiritual Worlds is ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between "two", between the marginal living entities and the Supreme Lord (either Visnu or Krsna) because love can only exist when there is a caring respectful nurturing relationship between two-
Srila Prabhupāda – ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there". (August 9, 1976, Tehran)
Krsna gives the jiva-soul's their free will so they can voluntarily choose to love Him instead of being impersonally programmed to mindlessly obey and never think for themselves.
Without "free will" in both the Vaikuntha Planets and Goloka Vrindavan, the jiva-souls are no better than dead emotionless stone, there can be no possibility of loving exchanges or any feelings of love.
It is very important to understand this explanation of why the jiva-soul MUST have their freedom (free will).
Srila Prabhupada tells us that without "free will", love cannot exist.
The good thing is, "free will" ALWAYS exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha as part and parcel of the jiva-souls constitutional make up as the marginal living entity they are (individual jiva-soul).
And yes, Krsna ALWAYS allows "free will" because love CANNOT be experienced or expressed without free will, this is why Krsna ALWAYS allows free will.
Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval does the jiva-souls have their free will to begin with, so how do we understand this? Because a reciprocal relationship between two can ONLY work when there is free will.
Free will MEANS a relationship between two. The fact is Krsna will NEVER deny the jiva-soul's their free will!
Without free free the jiva-souls can NEVER experience loving exchanges as Prabhupada says above, or know what loving exchanges even are, which is only experienced in a "two-way" relationship of giving and accepting.
Therefore without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings based on independent choices, then the jiva-soul will NEVER experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation, and the personal unique individual loving contributions with Krsna.
As Prabhupada says above, without "free will" we are no better than dead stone!
“Free will” or the ability to “choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and ALWAYS exists without beginning or end in the Spiritual Planets.
However, free will in its full potential, is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, which is the jiva-souls original perpetual home.
Devotee – “Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we may miss use it?”
Srila Prabhupada – “If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don’t misuse your free will. But don’t try to become stone either. That is not life”. (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Devotee – “In Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”
Srila Prabhupada – “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).
As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls are NEVER a one-way relationship of convenience that denies personal contributions and choices.
No, love is ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there are two-
Srila Prabhupāda – ”Love means two persons, when there is an exchange, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God these things must be there”. (August, 1976, Tehran)
Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada – “So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
Ultimately each individual soul is a unique independent person who can choose for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krsna, or even ignore Him if they choose to do so.
"Free will" only works when the jiva-souls are also allowed reject Krsna and Visnu in the Spiritual Worlds if they choose to do so, others wise what is the meaning of having free will?
Therefore those so called great Vaisnavas, including many past Vedic authorities, have not understood these points and what "free will" means, which is ANY jiva-soul in both the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka Vrindavana, CAN fall down at anytime if they choose to do so.
No position is permanent, not even being in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (The Kingdom of God), this is because the jiva-souls ALWAYS have their free will, THEIR right to make choices too.
As Prabhupada explains, Krsna never forces the jiva-souls to surrender to Him, never forces the jiva-souls to love Him, that MUST be voluntary.
Srila Prabhupada – “Krsna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne June 25, 1974)
Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that.” (July 8, 1976)
In the following conversation Srila Prabhupada is explaining to us that Krsna is ALWAYS in control.
This is because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.
This includes allowing the jiva-souls to have their independence and free will explained here–
Syamasundara dasa – ”Does the individual jiva-soul have a little independence to choose?”
Srila Prabhupada – ”No, Bhagavad-Gita states that when the individual jiva-soul wants to act, Krsna gives the orders. Man proposes, and God disposes." (Dialectical Spiritualism: A Vedic View).
Srila Prabhupada is saying here the individual jiva-souls cannot have their little independence or free will without the sanction of Krsna first.
This is because Krsna is the cause of ALL causes, it is only by His will alone that the jiva-souls have their freedom (free will) for the purpose of choosing for themselves how to voluntarily love and serve Krsna instead of being a mindless drone that is always to what to do, how to think, and what they must offer to Krsna.
Syamasundara dasa – ”So we have no free will?”
Srila Prabhupada – ”Not without the sanction of Krsna. Without Him, we cannot do anything! Therefore Krishna is the ultimate cause of all causes”. (Dialectical Spiritualism: A Vedic View).
The conclusion is, free will DOES and MUST exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha as part and parcel of the jiva-soul's constitutional make up that every marginal living entity has.
And yes, Krsna ALWAYS allows "free will" because without freedom of expression, there can NEVER be any loving exchanges with Krsna.
This is why Krsna ALWAYS allows free will?
Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval that the jiva-souls have THEIR free will to begin with. But the ONLY point behind this comment by Prabhupada is Krsna comes first because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.
Other than this point establishing who is the Supreme Controller, the fact is only by having "free will" can the jiva-souls voluntarily make their OWN choices of how they want to have a loving exchange with Krsna, or just be His mindless drones and no free will.
As explained above and made VERY clear here, if Krsna denied the jiva-souls their free will, then they will NEVER experience voluntary loving exchanges and know what REAL love and freedom really is, just by being Krsna's mindless puppet without personal contributions, is impersonalism because in that condition the jiva-souls are no better than dead stone.
In other words, without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva-souls can NEVER experience "personal" wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and unique individual expressions in their relationship with Krsna.
Real love is voluntary and can NEVER exist in a "one-way or one-sided" domineering way where personal contributions are denied ignored or not appreciated.
That kind of impersonal association only "extinguishes" the jiva-soul's individuality, free-will, and their ability to contribute their own unique offerings.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - “In the spiritual world service is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there if they want to be a flower and lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change from flower to human body also. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation. (Lecture on Bhagavad Gita Chapter 9 text 2-5, New York, November 23, 1966)
Devotee – “Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we may miss use it?”
Srila Prabhupada – “If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don’t misuse your free will. But don’t try to become stone either. That is not life”. (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Devotee – “In Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”
Srila Prabhupada – “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).
Without the jiva-souls making their own contribution to the relationship with Krsna based on free will, then how can loving exchanges with Krsna ever take place? Think about it.**.
