Thursday, December 5, 2019

Srila Prabhupada - ''Because you are Son of God you have got full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence'' (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)



By the mercy of Krsna the jiva-souls have ALWAYS had their freedom (free will) in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan because without freewill the jiva-souls can never choose to voluntary serve Krsna with devotional offerings in their own unique way.

Actually there was never a time in the Spiritual Worlds where Krsna denied free will.

Krsna granted freedom to the individual jivatma because free will is eternally part and parcel of the constitutional makeup of all jiva-souls

And without free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, one is just a mindless porn in an impersonal collective, no better than dead stone Prabhupada has told us.

This is because loving exchanges and reciprocation can only exist when there is free will, or having a sense of individual self.

The fact is to for real love or service to exist, the jivatma's must be able to choose in their own way, how to reciprocate with Krsna and enhance all loving exchanges.

Real emotions of loving service is never a one way street, it is also a reciprocation between two individuals.

It is NEVER a one sided one sided, love is always between two.

We do not become mindless drones eternally controlled by Krsna prema in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan, ultimately even under the most intense loving emotional, there is ALWAYS individual choices due to free will and without it there can NEVER be love.

Therefore without that "choice," even with Krsna prema, there is no question of genuine love because Krsna prema is never one sided where the jiva becomes absorbed and one with Krsna's love.

This idea is impersonal nonsense that foolish gurus teach their naive disciples.

Love is only real when it is a reciprocation between two individuals.

This loving reciprocation is expressed in its full potential in either Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan.

It is foolish and total nonsense to think Krsna prema renders the entire meaning of individuality and the ability to choose obsolete when one enters Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan.

One should understand that part of "real love, prema or service" is also being able to walk away from that loving attachment at anytime if one chooses to do so.

Being an independent individual jiva soul allows one to do that.

The ability to choose "this side or that side" is what makes loving emotions real.

This is because it is also YOUR choice to love Krsna too and not  just Him dominating over you like one controls a puppet on strings.

Therefore it is not ONLY Krsna who controls that loving emotion by overruling your individuality and sense of self by choosing for you.

No! That kind of dominate so called love or prema over an individual jiva-soul is Mayavadi impersonalism!

Therefore to say one can NEVER choose to fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan is nonsense.

Although Prabhupada did say that only 10% of jiva-souls choose to fall down, the rest are good souls, they never CHOOSE to fall down because they CHOOSE to say in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan.



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You see, it is the the jivatma's desire too, a reciprocation between Krishna and the jiva.

We are not mindless drones programmed just to love Krishna, no, the fact is we are all unique jiva's who have a sense of individual self that no other jivatma is like, and and can give their own unique love in one's own special personal way in "CHOOSING to love Krishna".

Therefore ONLY reciprocation between Krishna and the jivatma is what makes love (Krishna prema) real.

We the jiva tattvas, are all expansions of Krishna but are endowed with individuality and experience an independent personal sense of self that is separate from Krishna, He allows this to give us the free will to experience love and be responsible for our actions.

This however does not means all jiva-tattva's are independent from Krishna's control of all things, that is not possible. At all time the jiva tattva is always dependent on Krishna or His expansions even as independent individuals.

So the jiva tattva always remain an independent individual living entity that depends on Krishna and His expansions in both the Spiritual Worlds and material worlds.

So even though the jiva-tattva is an expansion of Krishna, the jiva-tattva is NOT one with Krishna.

On the other hand, the loving expressions between Krishna and all His Vishnu-tattva (93% of Krishna's qualities) and Vishnu-sakti-tattva (also 93% of Krishna's qualities) expansions are very different from the individual jiva-tattva (78% of Krishna's qualities) because they ARE Krishna, they are one with Krishna (the individual jiva tattva is not one with Krishna).

This is because all Vishnu-tattvas (Radharani, Balarama, Maha Vishnu etc) and Vishnu-sakti-tattvas (who are many gopis, gopas and other  personalities in the Spiritual World) ARE Krishna Himself playing the part of someone else just like in a play.

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the manifestation of Radha and Krishna as one where both experience each other's love for each other.

Krishna, Radharani and Lord Caitanya are all the ONE personality.

This subject can be difficult to comprehend, especially by those who wrongly believe that once they enter Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan, they can never again fall down to the material world.

Because we have free will there is always the possibility of fall down, therefore at all times "we must use our free will correctly" and choose to perpetually serve Krishna at ALL times.

This is the only way that will protect us from fall down as Prabhupada explains here-

Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come, why are we here?”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes. You forced Krishna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your risk. That’s all. And you suffer. What can be done?” Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist that “I must go and enjoy independently,” so God says, “All right, you can go.” This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy”. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)

Devotee – “Krishna did not want us to come here, so why are we here?” Why didn’t Krishna save us from coming to this material world?”

Srila Prabhupada - “Because that means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

There is nothing wrong with having one's own unique individual thoughts and desires, that includes diversity and varigatedness in one's choice of service in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan.

Free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan naturally gives the jiva soul the ability to make their own individual contributions in their own unique way.

As long as Krishna or Narayana is in the centre.

Love is not just a one way street, it is never ONE, it is always a reciprocation between TWO that includes Krishna and the jiva tattva, and that love can NEVER be forced.

In fact, if each of us never had an independent sense of self and personality, then we would never have the individual abilities and talents unique to our individual spiritual identity.

And if everyone was the same, then their version of the Kingdom of God (Vaikuntha) is simply a boring, stagnated impersonal cold dictatorship devoid of loving exchanges.

The "highest sense of independent thinking" is "choosing" to be fully dependent on Krishna. However, real love is reciprocal, it is NEVER a "one way street" where surrender to Krishna takes away one's sense of self, individuality and free will making one no better than a dead stone.

No, Krishna does not want servants like that, who are denied their individuality of being an independent person who can choose for themselves.

Surrender to Krishna NEVER takes away one's sense of self, individuality and free will.

Goloka Vrindavana is the Kingdom of God where the jiva's independent identity and personal abilities are the qualities that go side by side with making ''personal choices'' of what they offer as an individual to Lord Krishna in the spirit of cooperation, reciprocation and love.

In this way the "highest sense of independent thinking" is "choosing" to be fully dependent on Krishna.

The Spiritual World is full of unlimited variety therefore Krishna only wants those in His circle who "choose" to be there and gives the best of who they are as an independent thinking individual person, who has their own unique abilities and talents they can offer to Krishna.

The freedom to EVEN stay in Vaikuntha MUST be the jivas choice in reciprocation with Krishna because without free will there can be no real love.

The fact is God is more inclined to help those who FIRST do everything they can to help themselves. Only then will Krishna help you when He sees you trying your best to help yourself to remember Krishna.

This is because each jiva has their own independent individual personality and sense of self that allows them to ''choose'' to help themselves first.

Otherwise if Krsna does everything for you, how can there be genuine love?

Real love is reciprocal, it is NEVER a one way street where surrender to Krsna takes away one's sense of self and individuality.

The "highest independence" is "choosing" to be fully dependent on Krishna.

The freedom to EVEN stay in Vaikuntha MUST be the jivas choice in reciprocation with Krishna because without free will there can be no real love.

Srila Prabhupada has said not even Krsna can force you to love Him, LOVE or service is based on free will and then reciprocation.

Srila Prabhupada humbly told his disciples, if you love me then naturally I will love you.

Our ONLY education should be being trained up from a very young age to go "back home back to Godhead"







Tuesday, December 3, 2019

"Further Talks Between King Rahūgaṇa and Jaḍa Bharata." Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Canto 5 Chapter 13 Text 1 to Text 26 By His Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

"Further Talks Between King Rahūgaṇa and Jaḍa Bharata."

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Canto 5 Chapter 13 Text 1 to Text 26 

By His Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.


The brāhmaṇa Jaḍa Bharata became very kind to King Rahūgaṇa, and to disassociate him from the material world, he spoke figuratively of the forest of the material world.

He explained that this material world is like a great forest in which one becomes entangled due to association with material life.

In this forest there are plunderers (the six senses) as well as carnivorous animals like jackals, wolves and lions (wife, children and other relatives) who are always anxious to suck the blood from the head of the family.

The forest plunderers and the carnivorous blood-sucking animals combine to exploit the energy of a man within this material world. In this forest there is also a black hole, covered by grass, into which one may fall.

Coming into the forest and being captivated by so many material attractions, one identifies himself with this material world, society, friendship, love and family. Having lost the path and not knowing where to go, being harassed by animals and birds, one is also victimized by many desires.

Thus one works very hard within the forest and wanders here and there. He becomes captivated by temporary happiness and becomes aggrieved by so-called distress.

Actually one simply suffers in the forest from so-called happiness and distress. Sometimes he is attacked by a snake (deep sleep), and due to the snakebite he loses consciousness and becomes puzzled and bewildered about discharging his duties.

Sometimes he is attracted by women other than his wife, and thus be thinks he enjoys extramarital love with another woman.

He is attacked by various diseases, by lamentation and by summer and winter. Thus one within the forest of the material world suffers the pains of material existence.

Expecting to become happy, the living entity changes his position from one place to another, but actually a materialistic person within the material world is never happy. Being constantly engaged in materialistic activities, he is always disturbed.

He forgets that one day he has to die. Although he suffers severely, being illusioned by the material energy, he still hankers after material happiness. In this way he completely forgets his relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

By hearing this from Jaḍa Bharata, Mahārāja Rahūgaṇa revived his Kṛṣṇa consciousness and thus benefited from Jaḍa Bharata's association.

He could understand that his illusion was over, and he begged pardon fromJaḍa Bharata for his misbehavior. All this was told to Mahārāja Parīkṣit by Śukadeva Gosvāmī.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.1

TRANSLATION

Jaḍa Bharata, who had fully realized Brahman, continued: My dear King Rahūgaṇa, the living entity wanders on the path of the material world, which is very difficult for him to traverse, and he accepts repeated birth and death.

Being captivated by the material world under the influence of the three modes of material nature (sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa and tamo-guṇa), the living entity can see only the three fruits of activities under the spell of material nature.

These fruits are auspicious, inauspicious and mixed. He thus becomes attached to religion, economic development, sense gratification and the monistic theory of liberation (merging with the Supreme).

He works very hard day and night exactly like a merchant who enters a forest to acquire some articles to sell later for profit. However, he cannot really achieve happiness within this material world.

PURPORT

One can very easily understand how difficult and insurmountable the path of sense gratification is. Not knowing what the path of sense gratification is, one becomes implicated in the repetition of birth and accepts different types of bodies again and again.

Thus one suffers in material existence. In this life one may think that he is very happy being an American, Indian, Englishman or German, but in the next life one has to accept another body among 8,400,000 species.

The next body has to be immediately accepted according to karma. One will be forced to accept a certain type of body, and protesting will not help. That is the stringent law of nature.

Due to the living entity's ignorance of his eternal blissful life, he becomes attracted to material activities under the spell of māyā. In this world, he can never experience happiness, yet he works very hard to do so. This is called māyā.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.2

TRANSLATION

O King Rahūgaṇa, in this forest of material existence there are six very powerful plunderers. When the conditioned soul enters the forest to acquire some material gain, the six plunderers misguide him. Thus the conditioned merchant does not know how to spend his money, and it is taken away by these plunderers.

Like tigers, jackals and other ferocious animals in a forest that are ready to take away a lamb from the custody of its protector, the wife and children enter the heart of the merchant and plunder him in so many ways.

PURPORT

In the forest there are many plunderers, dacoits, jackals and tigers. The jackals are compared to one's wife and children. In the dead of night, jackals cry very loudly, and similarly one's wife and children in this material world also cry like jackals.

The children say, "Father, this is wanted; give me this. I am your dear son." Or the wife says, "I am your dear wife. Please give me this. This is now needed."

In this way one is plundered by the thieves in the forest. Not knowing the aim of human life, one is constantly being misguided. The aim of life is Viṣṇu (na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiḿ hi viṣṇum [SB 7.5.31]). Everyone works very hard to earn money, but no one knows that his real self-interest is in serving the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Instead of spending money for advancing the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, one spends his hard-earned money on clubs, brothels, liquor, slaughterhouses and so forth.

Due to sinful activities, one becomes implicated in the process of transmigration and thus has to accept one body after another. Being thus absorbed in a distressed condition, one never attains happiness.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.3

TRANSLATION

In this forest there are dense bowers composed of thickets of bushes, grass and creepers. In these bowers the conditioned soul is always disturbed by cruelly biting mosquitoes [envious people]. Sometimes he sees an imaginary palace in the forest, and sometimes he is bewildered by seeing a fleeting fiend or ghost, which appears like a meteor in the sky.

PURPORT

The material household is actually a hole of fruitive activity. To earn a livelihood one engages in different industries and trades, and sometimes one performs great sacrifices to go to higher planetary systems. Apart from this, at least everyone is engaged in earning a livelihood in some profession or occupation.

In these dealings, one has to meet many undesirable people, and their behavior is compared to the biting of mosquitoes. This creates very undesirable conditions.

Even in the midst of these disturbances, one imagines that he is going to construct a grand house and live there permanently, although he knows that he cannot. Gold is compared to a quickly fleeting fiend, which appears like a meteor in the sky.

It displays itself for a moment and is then gone. Generally karmīs are attracted to gold or money, but these are compared herein to ghosts and witches.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.4

TRANSLATION

My dear King, the merchant on the forest path of the material world, his intelligence victimized by home, wealth, relatives and so forth, runs from one place to another in search of success.

Sometimes his eyes are covered by the dust of a whirlwind — that is to say, in his lust he is captivated by the beauty of his wife, especially during her menstrual period. Thus his eyes are blinded, and he cannot see where to go or what he is doing.

PURPORT

It is said that household attraction resides in the wife because sex is the center of household life: yanmaithunādi-gṛhamedhi-sukhaḿ hi tuccham [SB 7.9.45]. A materialistic person, making his wife the center of attraction, works very hard day and night.

His only enjoyment in material life is sexual intercourse. Therefore karmīs are attracted to women as friends or wives. Indeed, they cannot work without sex. Under the circumstances the wife is compared to a whirlwind, especially during her menstrual period.

Those who strictly follow the rules and regulations of householder life engage in sex only once a month, at the end of the menstrual period.

As one looks forward to this opportunity, his eyes are overwhelmed by the beauty of his wife. Thus it is said that the whirlwind covers the eyes with dust.

Such a lusty person does not know that all his material activities are being observed by different demigods, especially the sun-god, and are being recorded for the karma of one's next body.

Astrological calculations are called jyoti-śāstra. Because the jyoti, or effulgence, in the material world comes from the different stars and planets, the science is called jyoti-śāstra, the science of the luminaries.

By the calculations of jyoti, our future is indicated. In other words, all the luminaries — the stars, sun and moon — witness the activities of the conditioned soul. Thus he is awarded a particular type of body.

A lusty, person whose eyes are covered by the dust of the whirlwind or material existence does not at all consider that his activities are being observed by different stars and planets and are being recorded. Not knowing this, the conditioned soul commits all kinds of sinful activities for the satisfaction of his lusty desires.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.5

TRANSLATION

Wandering in the forest of the material world, the conditioned soul sometimes hears an invisible cricket making harsh sounds, and his ears become very much aggrieved. Sometimes his heart is pained by the sounds of owls, which are just like the harsh words of his enemies.

Sometimes he takes shelter of a tree that has no fruits or flowers. He approaches such a tree due to his strong appetite, and thus he suffers. He would like to acquire water, but he is simply illusioned by a mirage, and he runs after it.

PURPORT

In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is said that the Bhāgavata philosophy is meant for people who are completely free from envy (paramo nirmatsarāṇām). The material world is full of envious people. Even within one's inner circle there is much backbiting, and this is compared to the sound vibration of a cricket in the forest.

One cannot see the cricket, but one bears its sounds and thus becomes aggrieved. When one takes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, one always hears unpalatable words from relatives. This is the nature of the world; one cannot avoid mental distress due to the backbiting of envious people.

Being very much aggrieved, sometimes one goes to a sinful person for help, but he has no means to help because he has no intelligence. Thus the living entity is disappointed. This is like running after a mirage in the desert in an effort to find water. Such activities do not produce any tangible results. Due to being directed by the illusory energy, a conditioned soul suffers in so many ways.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.6

TRANSLATION

Sometimes the conditioned soul jumps into a shallow river, or being short of food grains, he goes to beg food from people who are not at all charitable. Sometimes he suffers from the burning heat of household life, which is like a forest fire, and sometimes he becomes sad to have his wealth, which is as dear as life, plundered by kings in the name of heavy income taxes.

PURPORT

When one is hot due to the scorching sun, one sometimes jumps into a river to gain relief. However, if the river is almost dried up and the water is too shallow, one may break his bones by jumping in. The conditioned soul is always experiencing miserable conditions.

Sometimes his efforts to get help from friends are exactly like jumping into a dry river. By such actions, he does not derive any benefit. He only breaks his bones. Sometimes, suffering from a shortage of food, one may go to a person who is neither able to give charity nor willing to do so.

Sometimes one is stationed in household life, which is compared to a forest fire (saḿsāra-dāvānala-līḍha-loka **). When a man is heavily taxed by the government, he becomes very sad.

Heavy taxation obliges one to hide his income, but despite this endeavor the government agents are often so vigilant and strong that they take all the money anyway, and the conditioned soul becomes very aggrieved.

Thus people are trying to become happy within the material world, but this is like trying to be happy in a forest fire. No one need go to a forest to set it ablaze: fire takes place automatically. Similarly, no one wants to be unhappy in family life or worldly life, but by the laws of nature unhappiness and distress are forced upon everyone.

To become dependent on another's maintenance is very degrading; therefore, according to the Vedic system, everyone should live independently. Only the śūdras are unable to live independently. They are obliged to serve someone for maintenance. It is said in the śāstras: kalau śūdra-sambhavāḥ.

In this age of Kali, everyone is dependent on another's mercy for the maintenance of the body; therefore everyone is classified as a śūdra.

In the Twelfth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is said that in Kali-yuga the government will levy taxes without reciprocally benefiting the citizens. Anāvṛṣṭyā vinańkṣyanti durbhikṣa-kara-pīḍitāḥ. In this age there will also be a shortage of rain; therefore a scarcity of food will arise, and the citizens will be very much harassed by government taxation.

In this way the citizens will abandon their attempts to lead a peaceful life and will leave their homes and hearths and go to the forest in sheer disappointment.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.7

TRANSLATION

Sometimes, being defeated or plundered by a superior, powerful agent, a living entity loses all his possessions. He then becomes very morose, and lamenting their loss, he sometimes becomes unconscious.

Sometimes he imagines a great palatial city in which he desires to live happily with his family members and riches. He thinks himself fully satisfied if this is possible, but such so-called happiness continues only for a moment.

PURPORT

The word gandharva-puram is very significant in this verse. Sometimes in the forest a very big castle appears, and this is called a castle in the air. Actually this castle does not exist anywhere but in one's imagination. This is called gandharva-pura. In the material forest, the conditioned soul sometimes contemplates great castles and skyscrapers, and he wastes his energy for such things, hoping to live in them very peacefully with his family forever.

However, the laws of nature do not allow this. When he enters such castles, he temporarily thinks that he is very happy, even though his happiness is impermanent. His happiness may last for a few years, but because the owner of the castle has to leave the castle at the time of death, everything is eventually lost. This is the way of worldly transactions.

Such happiness is described by Vidyāpati as the happiness one derives upon seeing a drop of water in the desert. The desert is heated by scorching sunshine, and if we want to reduce the desert temperature, we need huge amounts of water — millions and millions of gallons.

What effect will one drop have? Water certainly has value, but one drop of water cannot reduce the heat of the desert. In this material world everyone is ambitious, but the heat is very scorching.

What will an imaginary castle in the air do to help? Śrīla Vidyāpati has therefore sung: tāṭala saikate, vāri-bindu-sama, suta-mita-ramaṇi-samāje. The happiness of family life, friends and society is compared to a drop of water in the scorching desert.

The entire material world is busy trying to attain happiness because happiness is the prerogative of the living being. Unfortunately, due to falling in contact with the material world, the living entity simply struggles for existence.

Even if one becomes happy for a while, a very powerful enemy may plunder everything. There are many instances in which big businessmen suddenly become paupers in the street. Yet the nature of material existence is such that foolish people are attracted to these transactions and they forget the real business of self-realization.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.8

TRANSLATION

Sometimes the merchant in the forest wants to climb the hills and mountains, but due to insufficient footwear, his feet are pricked by small stone fragments and by thorns on the mountain. Being pricked by them, he becomes very aggrieved.

Sometimes a person who is very attached to his family becomes overwhelmed with hunger, and due to his miserable condition he becomes furious with his family members.

PURPORT

The ambitious conditioned soul wants to be very happy in this material world with his family, but he is compared to a traveler in the forest who desires to climb a hill full of thorns and small stones.

As stated in the previous verse, the happiness derived from society, friendship and love is like a drop of water in the scorching heat of the desert. One may want to become very great and powerful in society, but this is like attempting to climb a hill full of thorns.

Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura compares one's family to high mountains. Becoming happy in their association is like a hungry man's endeavoring to climb a mountain full of thorns.

Almost 99.9 percent of the population is unhappy in family life, despite all the attempts being made to satisfy the family members. In the Western countries, due to the dissatisfaction of the family members. there is actually no family life.

There are many cases of divorce, and out of dissatisfaction, the children leave the protection of their parents. Especially in this age of Kali, family life is being reduced. Everyone is becoming self-centered because that is the law of nature. Even if one has sufficient money to maintain a family, the situation is such that no one is happy in family life.

Consequently according to the varṇāśrama institution, one has to retire from family life in middle age: pañcāśordhvaḿ vanaḿ vrajet. One should voluntarily retire from family life at the age of fifty and go to Vṛndāvana or a forest. This is recommended by Śrīla Prahlāda Mahārāja (Bhāg. 7.5.5):

tat sādhu manye 'sura-varya dehināḿ
sadā samudvigna-dhiyām asad-grahāt
hitvātma-pātaḿ gṛham andha-kūpaḿ
vanaḿ gato yad dharim āśrayeta

There is no benefit in transferring from one forest to another. One must go to the Vṛndāvana forest and take shelter of Govinda. That will make one happy. The International Society for Krishna Consciousness is therefore constructing a Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma temple to invite its members as well as outsiders to come and live peacefully in a spiritual atmosphere.

That will help one become elevated to the transcendental world and return home, back to Godhead. Another sentence in this verse is very significant: kauṭumbikaḥ krudhyati vai janāya. When one's mind is disturbed in so many ways, he satisfies himself by becoming angry with his poor wife and children.

The wife and children are naturally dependent on the father, but the father, being unable to maintain the family properly, becomes mentally distressed and therefore chastises the family members unnecessarily. As stated in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (12.2.9): ācchinna-dāra-draviṇā yāsyanti giri-kānanam.

Being disgusted with family life, one separates from the family by divorce or some other means. If one has to separate, why not separate willingly?

Systematic separation is better than forced separation. Forced separation cannot make anyone happy, but by mutual consent or by the Vedic arrangement one must separate from his family affairs at a certain age and fully depend on Kṛṣṇa. This makes one's life successful.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.9

TRANSLATION

The conditioned soul in the material forest is sometimes swallowed by a python or crushed. At such a time he is left lying in the forest like a dead person, devoid of consciousness and knowledge. Sometimes other poisonous snakes bite him. Being blind to his consciousness, he falls down into a dark well of hellish life with no hope of being rescued.

PURPORT

When one becomes unconscious due to being bitten by a snake, one cannot understand what is taking place outside the body. This unconscious condition is the condition of deep sleep. Similarly, the conditioned soul is actually sleeping on the lap of the illusory energy.

Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura has sung, kota nidrā yāo māyā-piśācīrakole: "O living entity, how long will you sleep in this condition on the lap of the illusory energy?" People do not understand that they are actually sleeping in this material world, being devoid of knowledge of spiritual life.Caitanya Mahāprabhu therefore says:

enechi auṣadhi māyā nāśibāra lāgi'
hari-nāma-mahā-mantra lao tumi māgi'

"I have brought medicine to awaken every living being from perpetual sleep. Please receive the holy name of the Lord, the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra, and awaken."

The Kaṭha Upaniṣad (1.3.14) also says, uttiṣṭha jāgrataprāpya varān nibodhata: "O living entity, you are sleeping in this material world. Please get up and take advantage of your human form of life."

The sleeping condition means loss of all knowledge. In Bhagavad-gītā(2.69) it is also said, yā niśā sarva-bhūtānāḿ tasyāḿ jāgarti saḿyamī: "What is night for all beings is the time of awakening for the self-controlled."

Even in the higher planets, everyone is under the spell of the illusory energy. No one is really interested in the real values of life. The sleeping condition, called kāla-sarpa (the time factor), keeps the conditioned soul in a state of ignorance, and therefore pure consciousness is lost.

In the forest there are many blind wells, and if one falls down in one there is no chance of being rescued. In a state of sleep, one remains perpetually bitten by some animals, especially snakes.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.10

TRANSLATION

Sometimes, in order to have a little insignificant sex enjoyment, one searches after debauched women. In this attempt, one is insulted and chastised by the women's kinsmen.

This is like going to take honey from a beehive and being attacked by the bees. Sometimes, after spending lots of money, one may acquire another woman for some extra sense enjoyment. Unfortunately, the object of sense enjoyment, the woman, is taken away or kidnapped by another debauchee.

PURPORT

In a great forest, honeycombs are very important. People often go there to collect honey from the combs, and sometimes the bees attack and punish them. In human society, those who are not Kṛṣṇa conscious remain in the forest of material life simply for the honey of sex life. Such debauchees are not at all satisfied with one wife.

They want many women. Day after day, with great difficulty, they try to secure such women, and sometimes, while trying to taste this kind of honey, one is attacked by a woman's kinsmen and chastised very heavily.

By bribing others, one may secure another woman for enjoyment, yet another debauchee may kidnap her or offer her something better.

This woman hunting is going on in the forest of the material world, sometimes legally, and sometimes illegally. Consequently in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement the devotees are forbidden to have illicit sex.

Thus they avoid so many difficulties. One should remain satisfied with one woman, being duly married. One can satisfy one's lusty desires with his wife without creating disturbances in society and being punished for doing so.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.11

TRANSLATION

Sometimes the living entity is busy counteracting the natural disturbances of freezing cold, scorching heat, strong wind, excessive rainfall and so forth. When he is unable to do so, he becomes very unhappy. Sometimes he is cheated in business transactions one after another. In this way, by cheating, living entities create enmity among themselves.

PURPORT

This is an example of the struggle for existence, the attempt to counteract the onslaught of material nature. This creates enmity in society, and consequently society is filled with envious people. One person is envious of another, and this is the way of the material world.

The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement aims at creating an atmosphere of non-envy. Of course it is not possible for everyone to become Kṛṣṇa conscious, but the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement can create an exemplary society wherein there is no envy.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.12

TRANSLATION

On the forest path of material existence, sometimes a person is without wealth and due to this does not have a proper home, bed or sitting place, nor proper family enjoyment. He therefore goes to beg money from others, but when his desires are not fulfilled by begging, he wants to borrow or steal the property of others. Thus he is insulted in society.

PURPORT

The principles of beg, borrow or steal are very appropriate in this material world. When one is in want, he begs, borrows or steals. If begging is unsuccessful, he borrows. If he cannot pay, he steals, and when he is caught, he is insulted. This is the law of material existence. No one can live here very honestly; therefore by trickery, cheating, begging, borrowing or stealing, one tries to satisfy his senses. Thus no one in this material world is living peacefully.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.13

TRANSLATION

Due to monetary transactions, relationships become very strained and end in enmity. Sometimes the husband and wife walk on the path of material progress, and to maintain their relationship they work very hard. Sometimes due to scarcity of money or due to diseased conditions, they are embarrassed and almost die.

PURPORT

In this material world, there are many transactions between peoples and societies as well as between nations, but gradually these end in enmity between the two parties. Similarly, in the marriage relationship, monetary transactions are sometimes overpowered by the dangerous conditions of material life.

One then becomes diseased or monetarily embarrassed. In the modern age most countries have developed economically, but due to business exchanges, relationships seem to be strained. Finally wars are declared between nations, and as a result of these upheavals there is destruction all over the world, and people suffer heavily.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.14

TRANSLATION

My dear King, on the forest path of material life, first a person is bereft of his father and mother, and after their death he becomes attached to his newly born children. In this way he wanders on the path of material progress and is eventually embarrassed. Nonetheless, no one knows how to get out of this, even up to the moment of death.

PURPORT

In this material world, family life is an institution of sex. Yan maithunādi-gṛhamedhi-sukham (Bhāg. 7.9.45). Through sex, the father and mother beget children, and the children get married and go down the same path of sexual life. After the death of the father and mother, the children get married and beget their own children.

Thus generation after generation these things go on in the same way without anyone's attaining liberation from the embarrassment of material life. No one accepts the spiritual processes of knowledge and renunciation, which end in bhakti-yoga.

Actually human life is meant for jñāna and vairāgya, knowledge and renunciation. Through these one can attain the platform of devotional service. Unfortunately people in this age avoid the association of liberated people (sādhu-sańga) and continue in their stereotyped way of family life. Thus they are embarrassed by the exchange of money and sex.

 Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.15

TRANSLATION

There were and are many political and social heroes who have conquered enemies of equal power, yet due to their ignorance in believing that the land is theirs, they fight one another and lay down their lives in battle. They are not able to take up the spiritual path accepted by those in the renounced order. Although they are big heroes and political leaders, they cannot take to the path of spiritual realization.

PURPORT

Big political leaders might be able to conquer equally powerful political enemies, but unfortunately they cannot subdue their strong senses, the enemies that always accompany them. Not being able to conquer these nearby enemies, they simply try to conquer other enemies. and ultimately they die in the struggle for existence.

They do not take to the path of spiritual realization or become sannyāsīs. Sometimes these big leaders take up the guise of a sannyāsī and call themselves mahātmās, but their only business is conquering their political enemies. Because they spoil their lives with the illusion of "this is my land and my family," they cannot progress spiritually and attain liberation from the clutches of māyā.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.16

TRANSLATION

Sometimes the living entity in the forest of material existence takes shelter of creepers and desires to hear the chirping of the birds in those creepers. Being afraid of roaring lions in the forest, he makes friends with cranes, herons and vultures.

PURPORT

In the forest of the material world there are many animals and birds, trees and creepers. Sometimes the living entity wants to take shelter of the creepers; in other words, he wants to be happy by being embraced by the creeperlike arms of his wife. Within the creepers there are many chirping birds; this indicates that he wants to satisfy himself by hearing the sweet voice of his wife.

In old age, however, he sometimes becomes afraid of imminent death, which is compared to a roaring lion. To save himself from the lion's attack, he takes shelter of some bogus svāmīs, yogīs, incarnations, pretenders and cheaters.

Being misled by the illusory energy in this way, he spoils his life. It is said, hariḿ vinā mṛtiḿ na taranti: no one can be saved from the imminent danger of death without taking shelter of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

The word hari indicates the lion as well as the Supreme Lord. To be saved from the hands of Hari, the lion of death, one must take shelter of the supreme Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. People with a poor fund of knowledge take shelter of nondevotee cheaters and pretenders in order to be saved from the clutches of death.

In the forest of the material world, the living entity first of all wants to be very happy by taking shelter of the creeper like arms of his wife and hearing her sweet voice. Later, he sometimes takes shelter of so-called gurus and sādhus who are like crane, herons and vultures. Thus he is cheated both ways by not taking shelter of the Supreme Lord.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.17

TRANSLATION

Being cheated by them, the living entity in the forest of the material world tries to give up the association of these so-called yogīs, svāmīs and incarnations and come to the association of real devotees, but due to misfortune he cannot follow the instructions of the spiritual master or advanced devotees; therefore he gives up their company and again returns to the association of monkeys who are simply interested in sense gratification and women.

He derives satisfaction by associating with sense gratifiers and enjoying sex and intoxication. In this way he spoils his life simply by indulging in sex and intoxication. Looking into the faces of other sense gratifiers, he becomes forgetful and thus approaches death.

PURPORT

Sometimes a foolish person becomes disgusted with bad association and comes to the association of devotees and brāhmaṇas and takes initiation from a spiritual master. As advised by the spiritual master, he tries to follow the regulative principles, but due to misfortune he cannot follow the instructions of the spiritual master.

He therefore gives up the company of devotees and goes to associate with simian people who are simply interested in sex and intoxication.

Those who are so-called spiritualists are compared to monkeys. Outwardly, monkeys sometimes resemble sādhus because they live naked in the forest and pick fruits, but their only desire is to keep many female monkeys and enjoy sex life.

Sometimes so-called spiritualists seeking a spiritual life come to associate with Kṛṣṇa conscious devotees, but they cannot execute the regulative principles or follow the path of spiritual life.

Consequently they leave the association of devotees and go to associate with sense gratifiers, who are compared to monkeys. Again they revive their sex and intoxication, and looking at one another's faces, they are thus satisfied. In this way they pass their lives up to the point of death.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.18

TRANSLATION

When the living entity becomes exactly like a monkey jumping from one branch to another, he remains in the tree of household life without any profit but sex. Thus he is kicked by his wife just like the he-ass. Unable to gain release, he remains helplessly in that position.

Sometimes he falls victim to am incurable disease, which is like falling into a mountain cave. He becomes afraid of death, which is like the elephant in the back of that cave, and he remains stranded, grasping at the twigs and branches of a creeper.

PURPORT

The precarious condition of a householder's life is described herein. A householder's life is full of misery, and the only attraction is sex with the wife who kicks him during sexual intercourse, just as the she-ass does hermate. Due to continuous sex life, he falls victim to many incurable diseases. At that time, being afraid of death, which is like an elephant. he remains hanging from the twigs and branches of the tree, just like a monkey.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.19

TRANSLATION

O killer of enemies, Mahārāja Rahūgaṇa, if the conditioned soul somehow or other gets out of his dangerous position, he again returns to his home to enjoy sex life, for that is the way of attachment. Thus, under the spell of the Lord's material energy, he continues to loiter in the forest of material existence. He does not discover his real interest even at the point of death.

PURPORT

This is the way of material life. When one is captured by sexual attraction, he becomes implicated in so many ways and cannot understand the real aim of life. Therefore Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (7.5.31) says, na te viduḥsvārtha-gatiḿ hi viṣṇum: generally people do not understand the ultimate goal of life.

As stated in the Vedas, oḿtad viṣṇoḥ paramaḿ padaḿ sadā paśyanti sūrayaḥ: those who are spiritually advanced simply look to the lotus feet of Viṣṇu. The conditioned soul. however, not being interested in reviving his relationship with Viṣṇu, becomes captivated by material activities and remains in everlasting bondage, being misled by so-called leaders.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.20

TRANSLATION

My dear King Rahūgaṇa, you are also a victim of the external energy, being situated on the path of attraction to material pleasure. So that you may become an equal friend to all living entities, I now advise you to give up your kingly position and the rod by which you punish criminals.

Give up attraction to the sense objects and take up the sword of knowledge sharpened by devotional service. Then you will be able to cut the hard knot of illusory energy and cross to the other side of the ocean of nescience.

PURPORT

In Bhagavad-gītā Lord Kṛṣṇa compares the material world to a tree of illusion from which one must cut oneself free:

na rūpam asyeha tathopalabhyate
nānto na cādir na ca sampratiṣṭhā
aśvattham enaḿ suvirūḍha-mūlam
asańga-śastreṇa dṛḍhena chittvā

tataḥ padaḿ tat parimārgitavyaḿ
yasmin gatā na nivartanti bhūyaḥ
tam eva cādyaḿ puruṣaḿ prapadye
yataḥ pravṛttiḥ prasṛtā purāṇī

"The real form of this tree cannot be perceived in this world. No one can understand where it ends, where it begins, or where its foundation is.

But with determination, one must cut down this tree with the weapon of detachment. So doing, one must seek that place from which, having once gone, one never returns, and there surrender to that Supreme Personality of Godhead from whom everything has begun and in whom everything is abiding since time immemorial." (Bg. 15.3-4)

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.21

TRANSLATION

King Rahūgaṇa said: This birth as a human being is the best of all. Even birth among the demigods in the heavenly planets is not as glorious as birth as a human being on this earth. What is the use of the exalted position of a demigod? In the heavenly planets, due to profuse material comforts, there is no possibility of associating with devotees.

PURPORT

Human birth is a great opportunity for self-realization. One may take birth in a high planetary system among the demigods, but due to the profusion of material comforts, one cannot gain release from material bondage. Even on this earth those who are very opulent do not generally care to take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

An intelligent person actually interested in getting freed from the material clutches must associate with pure devotees. By such association, one can gradually become detached from the material attraction of money and women.

Money and women are the basic principles of material attachment. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu therefore advised those who are actually serious about returning back to Godhead to give up money and women in order to be fit to enter the kingdom of God.

Money and women can be fully utilized in the service of the Lord, and one who can utilize them in this way can become freed from material bondage. Satāḿ prasańgān mama vīrya-saḿvido bhavanti hṛt-karṇa-rasāyanāḥ kathāḥ (Bhāg. 3.25.25).

Only in the association of devotees can one relish the glorification of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Just through a little association with a pure devotee. one can become successful in his journey back to Godhead.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.22

TRANSLATION

It is not at all wonderful that simply by being covered by the dust of your lotus feet, one immediately attains the platform of pure devotional service to Adhokṣaja, which is not available even to great demigods like Brahmā. By associating with you just for a moment, I am now freed from all argument, false prestige and lack of discrimination, which are the roots of entanglement in the material world. Now I am free from all these problems.

PURPORT

Association with pure devotees certainly frees one from the material clutches. This is certainly true of KingRahūgaṇa's association with Jaḍa Bharata. King Rahūgaṇa was immediately freed from the misgivings of material association. The arguments offered by pure devotees to their disciples are so convincing that even a dull-headed disciple is immediately enlightened with spiritual knowledge.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.23

TRANSLATION

I offer my respectful obeisances unto the great personalities, whether they walk on the earth's surface as children, young boys, avadhūtas or great brāhmaṇas. Even if they are hidden under different guises, I offer my respects to all of them. By their mercy, may there be good fortune in the royal dynasties that are always offending them.

PURPORT

King Rahūgaṇa was very repentant because he had forced Jaḍa Bharata to carry his palanquin. He therefore began offering prayers to all kinds of brāhmaṇas and self-realized persons, even though they might be playing like children or hiding in some guises.

The four Kumāras walked everywhere in the guise of five-year-old boys, and similarly there are many brāhmaṇas, knowers of Brahman, who traverse the globe either as young men, children or avadhūtas. Being puffed up due to their position, the royal dynasties generally offend these great personalities. Therefore King Rahūgaṇa began to offer his respectful obeisances unto them so that the offensive royal dynasties might not glide down into a hellish condition.

If one offends a great personality, the Supreme Personality of Godhead does not excuse one, although the great personalities themselves might not take offense. Mahārāja Ambarīṣa was offended by Durvāsā, who even approached Lord Viṣṇu for pardon.

Lord Viṣṇu would not grant him pardon; therefore he had to fall down at the lotus feet of Mahārāja Ambarīṣa, even though Mahārāja Ambarīṣa was a kṣatriya-gṛhastha. One should be very careful not to offend the lotus feet of Vaiṣṇavas and brāhmaṇas.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.24

TRANSLATION

Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī continued: My dear King, O son of mother Uttarā, there were some waves of dissatisfaction in the mind of Jaḍa Bharata due to his being insulted by King Rahūgaṇa, who made him carry his palanquin, but Jaḍa Bharata neglected this, and his heart again became calm and quiet like an ocean.

Although King Rahūgaṇa had insulted him, he was a great paramahaḿsa. Being a Vaiṣṇava, he was naturally very kindhearted, and he therefore told the King about the constitutional position of the soul. He then forgot the insult because King Rahūgaṇa pitifully begged pardon at his lotus feet. After this, he began to wander all over the earth, just as before.

PURPORT

In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (3.25.21), Kapiladeva describes the symptoms of great personalities:

titikṣavaḥkāruṇikāḥ suhṛdaḥ sarva-dehinām. A saintly devotee is certainly very tolerant. He is the friend of all living entities, and he does not create enemies within the world. A pure devotee has all the qualities of a sādhu. JaḍaBharata is an example of this.

Due to the material body, his senses were certainly agitated when he was insulted by King Rahūgaṇa, but later, due to the King's humble submission, Jaḍa Bharata excused him. It is the duty of everyone desiring to return to Godhead to become submissive like King Rahūgaṇa and beg pardon of Vaiṣṇavas one may have offended.

Vaiṣṇavas are generally very kindhearted; therefore if one immediately submits himself at the lotus feet of a Vaiṣṇava, one is immediately cleared of offensive reactions. If one does not do so, the reactions will remain, and the results will not be very palatable.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.25

TRANSLATION

 After receiving lessons from the great devotee Jaḍa Bharata, King Rahūgaṇa of the state of Sauvīra became completely aware of the constitutional position of the soul. He thus gave up the bodily conception completely. My dear King, whoever takes shelter of the servant of the servant of the Lord is certainly glorified because he can without difficulty give up the bodily conception.

PURPORT

 As stated in Caitanya-caritāmṛta (Madhya 22.54):

"sādhu-sańga", "sādhu-sańga" — sarva-śāstre kaya
lava-mātra sādhu-sańge sarva-siddhi haya

It is a fact that if one takes shelter of a pure devotee, one attains all perfection, even if the association is a short one. A sādhu is a pure devotee of the Lord. It has been our practical experience that the first instruction of our spiritual master infused us with Kṛṣṇa consciousness so that now we are at least on the path of Kṛṣṇa consciousness and can understand the philosophy.

As a result, there are many devotees engaged in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. The whole world is revolving under the bodily conception; therefore there must be devotees all over the world to deliver people from the false bodily conception and fully engage them in Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.13.26

TRANSLATION

 King Parīkṣit then told Śukadeva Gosvāmī: My dear lord, O great devotee sage, you are omniscient. You have very nicely described the position of the conditioned soul, who is compared to a merchant in the forest. From these instructions intelligent men can understand that the senses of a person in the bodily conception are like rogues and thieves in that forest, and one's wife and children are like jackals and other ferocious animals.

However, it is not very easy for the unintelligent to understand the purport of this story because it is difficult to extricate the exact meaning from the allegory. I therefore request Your Holiness to give the direct meaning.

PURPORT

There are many stories and incidents in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam that are described figuratively. Such allegorical descriptions may not be understood by unintelligent men; therefore it is the duty of the student to approach a bona fide spiritual master for the direct explanation.

Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports of the Fifth Canto, Thirteenth Chapter, of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled, "Further Talks Between King Rahūgaṇa and Jaḍa Bharata."

From Karanodakshayi Vishnu (Maha Vishnu) all the billions material universes (Brahmandas) originate from the pores of His skin and His breathing.

The Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes expands into the material creation as Maha Vishnu.

Deep inside each Brahmanda universe is a secondary universe where Maha Vishnu expands as Garbhodakashayi Vishnu.

Garbhodakashayi Vishnu resides in His secondary material universe that is surrounded and encased in the greater Brahmanda universe. 

Here we see in painting Karanodakshayi Vishnu who is also known as Maha Vishnu.


As said above, Maha Vishnu expands as  Garbhodakashayi Vishnu who resides deep inside His secondary universe found inside of His Brahmanda greater universe.

From Garbhodakashayi Vishnu Lord Brahma appears and creates the Planetary Systems in each universe within their Brahmanda.

In our material universe inside our Brahmanda, there are 14 Planetary Systems however, in other universes inside their Brahmanda, there can be many more planetary systems based on how many heads their Lord Brahma has.


Some Brahmas have 4 heads like ours while others have 10,20,50,1000, a million or even 10 million heads according to Srimad Bhagavatam. 

So from Maha Vishnu's breathing and from the pores of His skin, all the massive universes (Brahmandas) manifest in one breath.

One breath of Maha Vishnu in human years is 311 trillion 40 billion years which is also the life span of Brahma.

The size of our Brahmanda is 44 quadrillion 444 trillion 444 billion miles in diameter or twice that figure if measured from the outer edge of the universe inside the Brahmanda.

Other Brahmandas are much bigger than ours, all are in different sizes depending on how many heads their Lord Brahma has.

Therefore deep inside each Brahmanda universe, Maha Vishnu expands as Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and from Him Lord Brahma appears from a lotus flower growing from Garbhodakashayi Vishnu's naval who then creates the many planetary systems.

Maha Vishnu expands again to a third Vishnu known as Ksirodakashayi Vishnu (Supersoul or Paramatma) who is within the heart of all marginal living entities (jiva souls).

Sunday, December 1, 2019

Syamasundara - "And come back to the material world from Vaikuntha?" Srila Prabhupada - "Yes. Otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."

The jiva is eternal, no beginning and no end.

Free will is ALWAYS part of each jiva's constitutional make up.

Without freedom to choose, even to stay in Vaikuntha, there is no meaning to the word jiva tattva or freedom -

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna comes down and instructs us, "But why you are engaged in this foolish activity? Please come to Me, back to home, back to Godhead.

So originally the spirit soul has got body, so these physical elements are just like a covering, exactly to the size of the hands, legs, everything…The future is to go back to home, back to Godhead…because he is eternally servant of God, so now he has forgotten.

He wants to become master, and the material nature is kicking him, life after life. So one day he'll come to his senses and become again, renovate himself to become servant of God.

Just like when a man becomes a prisoner, he'll be a free man at the end of his term, and within this term he is simply kicked by the police, so that he may not come back again to prison house.

Syamasundara - "But we can't predict that the process of punishment will have permanent effect, can we? Can we predict that? Many prisoners leave the prison, but some come back".

Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing as permanent. You can misuse your independence at any time".

Syamasundara - "And come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes. Otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."

Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, eventually permanently he will come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No. There is no question of permanent. Because he has got independence, he can misuse his independence, he can fall down. That's why one man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently He can come back again".

Srila Prabhupada - "This is the general law [to not come back]. But if he likes, he can come back. Because otherwise, what is the meaning of independence? Just like one should become fit in the prison house, naturally he should not go again".

He further explains free will to leave Vaikuntha in the following conversation also-

Srila Prabhupada - "There is return, that is voluntary. Return there is".

Paramahamsa - "If we want?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes".

Paramahamsa - "So we can come to the spiritual world and return?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes".

Paramahamsa - "Fall down?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes. As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice," "Yes," Krishna says, "yes, you go". Just like nobody is interested in Krishna consciousness, do you think everyone is interested? They want to enjoy this material world.

Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. Krishna is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this.

Just like some of our students, Krishna conscious, sometimes go away, again come back. It is free will, not stereotyped.

Just like one goes to the prisonhouse, not that government welcomes, come on, we have got prisonhouse. Come here, come here." He goes out of his free will; again comes out, again goes. Like that. Krishna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare, nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare (Prema-vivarta).

The police is there, just like the police car was there. We have nothing to do with it. But if you do anything criminal, immediately you will be arrested, under police custody.

The maya may be there, but maya captures him who is not a devotee of Krishna". (Morning Walk, At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)





Saturday, November 30, 2019

Autobiography of Srila Prabhupada (in his own words).

Autobiography of Srila Prabhupada (in his own words).

Letter to Mr. Nakano - Delhi 18 April, 1961.


Srila Prabhupada -"Regarding my personal history I beg to state it shortly as follows:

I was born 1st September 1896 in Calcutta as the third son of my father Late Gaura Mohon Dev and mother late Rajani Devi in the family of one of very respectable Gold merchant aristocracy of Calcutta.

I was educated in the Scottish Churches College (B.A. 1920) and Netaji Subhas Candra was my college mate.

I left education influenced by Mahatma Gandhi in 1921 and joined for some time in the national liberation and other social service movements.

I was secretary of the Social Union movement of which Late Mr. J. Choudhury Bar-at-law was the president.

In this movement there was a great stir for intercaste marriage in favor of Patel's (Vithalbhai) bill.

I was married during my student life in 1918 with Radharani Devi and she is in Calcutta with her sons and daughters five children and a few grand children also.

After my education I was appointed (1921) as the Asst. Manager of Dr. Bose's Laboratory Ltd of Calcutta and then engaged myself in my personal business in the chemical line.

I was a research student in chemical and medicinal composition and for the first time in India, I introduced Gadine preparation in the medical profession.

I met my spiritual master Late Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami in 1922 and he desired me to preach in the foreign countries the spiritual movement started by Lord Caitanya for enlightenment of all materialistic men all over the world.

He gradually turned my mind from matter to spirit and I was accepted as his disciple in 1933 after full association of ten years.

He left this world in 1936 and insisted to explain the mission in English.

I started my paper Back to Godhead in 1944 and left home for good entirely to execute the order of my spiritual master in 1954.

Since then my H.Q. is at Vrindaban and devote in literary work".

Interview on September 24, 1968, Seattle.

Interviewer - "Would you tell me something of your own background? That is, where you were educated, how you became a disciple of Kṛṣṇa".

Srila Prabhupāda - "I was born and educated in Calcutta. Calcutta is my home place.

I was born in 1896, and I was my father's pet child, so my education began a little late, and still, I was educated in higher secondary, high school for eight years.

In primary school four years, higher secondary school, eight years, in college, four years. Then I joined Gandhi's movement, national movement.

But by good chance I met my Guru Mahārāja, my spiritual master, in 1922. And since then, I was attracted in this line, and gradually I gave up my household life.

I was married in 1918 when I was still a third year student. And so I got my children. I was doing business. Then I retired from my family life in 1954.

For four years I was alone, without any family. Then I took regularly renounced order of life in 1959.

Then I devoted myself in writing books. My first publication came out in 1962, and when there were three books, then I started for your country in 1965 and I reached here in September, 1965.

Since then, I am trying to preach this Kṛṣṇa consciousness in America, Canada, in European countries.

And gradually the centers are developing. The disciples are also increasing. Let me see what is going to be done.

Interviewer - "How did you become a disciple yourself? What were you, or what did you follow before you became a disciple?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Same principle as I told you, faith. One of my friend, he dragged me forcibly to my spiritual master.

And when I talked with my spiritual master, I was induced. And since then, the seedling began.

















Thursday, November 28, 2019

Maha-Visnu is surrounded by millions of massive almost spherical material universes called Brahmandas.

Deep inside each Brahmanda universe there is a "secondary smaller universe" where Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Lord Brahma and many planetary systems exist.

From Maha-Visnu's pores and breathing, millions of massive almost spherical universes originate called Brahmandas.

As said above, deep inside each one of them is another smaller universe where Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Lord Brahma reside.


Also within each material universe, deep inside their surrounding Brahmanda, exists many planetary systems built by Lord Brahma and his demigod associates.

The size of each single material universe depends on how many heads Lord Brahma has.

Our single universe is called Bhu-Mandala and has 14 planetary systems, and our Brahma has only 4 heads.

Other universes, deep inside of their Brahmanda, Brahma ha many heads, some with 10, 20, 500, 1000, 100,000, a million, or even 10 million heads.

Such knowledge is inconceivable for us to properly understand.

This means some inner material universes and their outer surrounding Brahmanda shell, are millions of times bigger than our Bhu-Mandala universe and its surrounding Brahmanda shell covering it.

All this knowledge is found in Srimad Bhagavatam 5th Canto translated by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.