To begin with, the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are always a perpetual bodily FORM that looks like Krsna's form when in their full potential in the spiritual world.
And can change to any form they desire while in both Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets.
The spiritual bodily form is-
1 - Sat,
2 - Chit,
3 - Ananda,
4 - Vigraha.
Which means-
1 - Eternity,
2 - Knowledge,
3 - Bliss,
4 - Form.
The conclusion of the brahmajyoti, brahman and Spiritual Sky, is life exists EVERYWHERE (sarva-gatah), and the jiva-soul's full potential is an eternal individual spiritual bodily FORM.
This is what the spiritual world looks like represented by Krsna's two armed bodily form and Visnu/Narayana's four armed bodily form.
Therefore, being dormant, formless and inactive in the "impersonal" aspect of the brahmajyoti, is a fallen condition of the jiva-souls and NOT their original bodily state of existence.
The jiva-souls did NOT originate from the impersonal brahmajyoti.
Srila Prabhupada - "God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." So Kṛṣṇa is also like human form, two hands, two legs." The human form is also the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)
Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form, man is made after the shape of God. I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"
Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."
Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become a flower, voluntarily, and he can change his form from flower to human body. That is spiritual life, there is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
The jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the jiva-souls are indestructible and beginningless like Krsna.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 Text 12)
Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)
There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls) who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed, which is eternity or infinity.
Being an "inactive" (dormant) so-called "spiritual spark" in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, is an already fallen unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential, are a spiritual bodily PERSON (form) fully active like Krsna in the spiritual world serving Him explained above, which is the jiva-soul's natural eternal home.
Krsna's effulgence is known as the dormant (inactive) [impersonal] brahmajyoti made up of a collective of "inactive" individual jiva-souls, appearing there AFTER becoming frustrated with the material world's repeated cycle of birth and death, of possessing these temporary bodily vessels over millions of life times.
The frustrated conditioned jiva-souls attempt to extinguish their eternal existence by attempting to become a bodiless "spiritual individual spark" merged in the impersonal brahmajyoti, which is a "fallen" unnatural artificial state of the jiva-soul.
As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" in the dormant brahmajyoti as a spiritual spark, is an unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential IS a PERSON as a spiritual bodily form in their eternal original natural state, serving Krsna the Supreme Lord.
Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal Brahmajyoti is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness and a fallen condition therefore, those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in a fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. We do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated, the living entities first falling down to this material world are NOT from the impersonal brahman. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition and that "non-fallen" condition is Krsna cconsciousness.
As long as one can maintain their pure Krsna consciousness, then he is NOT fallen down.
As soon as he becomes out of Krsna consciousness immediately he is fallen down. Those who are thinking that they are liberated by being situated in brahman effulgence are described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam as impurely intelligent. So, we do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated. In other words, they are actually not liberated, and because they are not actually liberated they again come down to the material world." (Letter to Revatinandana dasa, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "When fall down takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition."(Letter to, Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupāda - "We are only a (dormant bodiless) spark (while fallen in the impersonal Brahmajyoti). But because we are spirit, we cannot remain in that fallen impersonal stage. The jiva-soul wants to enjoy, so for as long as one has forgotten (their spiritual bodily origin while outside of the spiritual atmosphere), one develops a body which is called matter."
Śyāmasundara - "Does the jiva-soul develop a spiritual body?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "No, he is spirit, spiritual identity already. But as we are developing material body, similarly we can revive spiritual body."
Revatīnandana - "You very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen jiva-souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and if I go to the brahmajyoti am I still fallen?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."
Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva-souls there are also fallen souls."
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes." (Aug 17, 1971, London)
Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul's form is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture on BG 2.14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)
Srila Prabhupāda - "The spirit soul has got form but with our material eyes we foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG 2.14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)
As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a "spiritual spark" is the unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential IS a PERSON as a spiritual bodily form associating with Krsna in His eternal pastimes.
The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body.
Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)
Lord Krsna is the Supreme PERSONALITY of Godhead and cause of all causes, who IS a eternal bodily FORM as an eternal PERSON.
This also means the proper full potential and appearance of ALL jiva-souls (jiva-tattva) are also eternal PERSONS because they are seen as in Krsna's image.
The jiva-souls are NOT originally an impersonal spiritual bodiless spark in the Brahmajyoti of Brahman as fools believe.
The fact is, only when the jiva-souls choose to forget Krsna do they first enter the material creation, and than fall further to the inactive (impersonal) Brahmajyoti due to becoming frustrated with the temporary nature of material existence (being force to change material bodies in a decaying temporary atmoshere)
Srila Prabhupada - "Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupada – "Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall, your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence and may utilized it rightly or wrongly at anytime, so there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 4/25/1970)
Srila Prabhupada – "Regarding your questions where the spirit souls are coming from? These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities." (Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970)
As Bhagavad Gita says above, the jiva-souls were NEVER created because they have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end.
Srila Prabhupada – "There is no new souls. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, so how there can be new soul?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 7/9/1970).^^.
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