Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
Sadly some foolishly believe to enter Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, one must extinguish their "free will" under the heading of ''surrender'' and allow Krishna to completely control your every actions and thoughts.
In other words, you become "little mindless Krishna imitators" (a mindless impersonal drone) running around Vrindavana, who are always told what to do, and when to do it.
And NEVER allowed to think for yourself by choosing their own personal relationship with Krishna that includes their own unique personal offerings in the mood of loving selfless exhanges, devotion and reciprocation.
Such a hellish nightmare version of God's Kingdom is nonsense impersonalism because one is destroying their individual unique ''personality'' and independent sense of self by being that "mindless yes man or women drone".
In true Spiritual reality, the jiva soul is endowed with ''free will'' in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, where the jiva soul voluntarily contributes in a reciprocal relationship with Krishna as the PERSON they eternally are.
These impersonalist fools do not even care to stop this nonsense self denial and ''childish imitation'' of trying to be "little mindless Krishnas", instead of being the unique independent (yet dependent on Krishna) contributing servant they eternally are.
Real love is always a two-way street based on individual thoughtful loving exchanges and reciprocation. Being Krishna's mindless drone or slave in the name of being His servant is NOT the meaning of surrender or having loving selfless exchanges.
Recently a comment was posted to me denying we have free will that sums up the impersonal Mayavadi nonsense polluting Vaishnavism today -
''Srila Prabhupada may teach the concept of free will for those neophytes in lower stages of spiritual development but in the Spiritual world there is no free will or independent contributions or thoughts because everyone does what ever Krishna desires, and what ever He dictates. Only the conditioned jivas in the material world are in ignorance of Krishna’s Supreme control and believe they are in control of their own destiny and have free will. However, sastra and previous acharyas both conclude that the very conception of free will is an illusion, a conditioned state of the jiva in the material world that does not exist in Vaikuntha because there is no concept of free will there. Once self realized, the jiva sees this true reality that Krishna is in complete control of their every thought and actions 100% to the very minutest detail. This means the jiva only does what Krishna wants and dictates which is the conclusion behind the whole progression of the Gita itself''.
LOL. There is something very WRONG with the above bogus impersonal nonsense as Srila Prabhupada explains-
Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence, is it love? Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, where you are forced to do everything Krishna wants, that is not love; love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).
The jiva souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are forever expanding their expression of individuality with personal offerings based on free will and selfless loving reciprocation with Krishna, it is NEVER a one sided master/slave mindless none contributing relationship with God as described above.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)
Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a one way street where surrender to Krishna takes away one's sense of self, individuality and personal contributions.
This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, sense of self and unique personality and characteristics that THEY only have.
These qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities (jiva soul) make up as the independent unique contributing "PERSON" they eternally are and ALWAYS have been without beginning or end.
Srila Prabhupada - ”Even in the Vaikuntha you can desire not to serve Krishna if you want''.
Vipina Purandara - “Why doesn’t Krishna protect us from that desire?
Srila Prabhupada - “He’s protecting. He says, “You rascal, don’t desire like that. Surrender unto Me.” But you are rascal; you do not do this”.
Vipina Purandara - “Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that? ”
Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that'' (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)
Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. "So God does not interfere with your independence”. (Conversation Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)
To these impersonalists, this blind mindless obedience of denial of the individual self as a unique person is their nonsense meaning of ''surrender''.
Many devotees today have absolutely no idea what "free will" really is or means, or what "surrender" really means.
Sadly their ignorance and fanaticism is stagnating the advancement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's great Sankirtan Movement of PERSONALISM.
Free will is something never acquired, nor ever given up or surrendered in the Spiritual World as ignorant fools believe.
Free will is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and therefore ALWAYS exists without beginning or end in the Spiritual Planets.
However, free will in its full potential, is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, which is the jiva souls original perpetual home and never in the material creation.
Only in the material creation is free will completely covered over restricted and suppressed by material nature and karma.
Losing one's free will (only covered over and never really lost) therefore is only experienced if the jiva soul foolishly chooses to enter the darkness of the material creation and be confined to temporary material bodily containers or biological vessels.
Therefore the jiva souls full Spiritual potential of being a free individual person in the Spiritual world serving Krishna, is mostly lost (forgotten) if they choose to enter the material creation.
All jiva souls originally HAVE free will ETERNALLY as part of their perpetual constitution make up, but can be forgotten (not ever lost) if they choose to enter the material creation.
Therefore in the material creation, the jiva souls original expression of freedom (free will) becomes covered over, suppressed and forgotten and must be AGAIN revived so the jiva soul is reinstated to their original spiritual position. This revival is only possible by the process of Krishna Consciousness under the guidance of a bonafide Spiritual Master.
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why do we have free will in the Spiritual World?''
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot fall down, then that is NOT independence, that is force. Therefore Krishna says, yathecchasi tathä kuru. “Now you do whatever you like.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we may miss use it?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Paramahamsa - “Ultimately if we come to Krsna, there’s no return.
Srila Prabhupada - “There is return, that is voluntary. Return there is”.
Paramahamsa - “If we want”.
Srila Prabhupada - “Yes”.
Paramahamsa - “So we can come to the spiritual world and return?”
Srila Prabhupada - “Yes”.
Paramahamsa - “Fall down?”
Srila Prabhupada - “Yes. As soon as we try, “Oh, this material world is very nice,” “Yes,” Krsna says, “yes, you go.” Just like nobody is interested in Krsna consciousness. So, they want to enjoy this material world. Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Krsna is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." Just like some of our students, Krsna conscious, sometimes go away, again come back. It is free will, not stereotyped. Just like one goes to the prisonhouse, not that government welcomes, "Come on. We have got prisonhouse. Come here, come here." He goes out of his free will; again comes out, again goes. Like that. Krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare, nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare. The police is there. Just like the police car was there. We have nothing to do with it. But if you do anything criminal, immediately you will be arrested, under police custody. The maya may be there, but maya captures him who is not a devotee of Krsna. That’s all. Therefore, mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te: "Anyone who surrenders unto Me, maya does not interfere anymore."
Paramahamsa - ''So our desire to enjoy, we achieve these bodies; and our desire to achieve Krsna brings us to our natural position''.
Srila Prabhupada - ''Yes. (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course--May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)
Dr. John Mize – “Did all the souls that were in the spiritual sky fall out of the spiritual sky at once or at different times, or are there any souls that are always good, they’re not foolish, they don’t fall down?
Srila Prabhupada – “No, there are… Majority, 90%, they are always good. They never fall down”.
Dr. John Mize – “So we’re among the 10%.
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes. Or less than that. In the material, whole material world all the living entities they are… Just like in the prison house, there is some population, but they are not majority. The majority of the population, they are outside the prison house. Similarly, majority of living being, part and parcel of God, they are in the spiritual world. Only a few fall down”.
Dr. John Mize – “Does Krishna know ahead of time that a soul is going to be foolish and fall?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Krishna? Yes, Krishna may know because He is omniscient”.
Dr. John Mize – “Are more souls falling all the time?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Not all the time. But there is the tendency of fall down, not for all, but because there is independence… Everyone is not liking to misuse the independence. The same example: Just like a government constructing a city and constructs also prison house because the government knows that somebody will be criminal. So their shelter must be also constructed. It is very easy to understand. Not that cent percent population will be criminal, but government knows that some of them will be. Otherwise why they construct prison house also? One may say, “Where is the criminal? You are constructing…” Government knows, there will be criminal. So if the ordinary government can know, why God cannot know? Because there is tendency”.
Dr. John Mize – “The origin of that tendency (to fall from Goloka) is…?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes”.
Dr. John Mize – “From where does that tendency come?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Tendency means the independence. So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force. Therefore Krishna says,yathecchasi tathä kuru. “Now you do whatever you like.” (Bhagavad Gita as it is. lecture, Mayapur, June 20, 1973)
Acyutananda - ''So what made the soul take birth in the material creation in the first place?''
Srila Prabhupada - ''In the first place?''
Acyutananda - ''What is the first birth? What is the cause of the first birth''.
Srila Prabhupada: ''Yes. That is stated in the Prema-vivarta:
krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare
nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare
We are eternal servant of Krsna. As soon as we want to become master, that is the beginning of our first birth in the material world. We have got independence. Krsna says, mamaivamso jiva bhutah—we are part and parcel of Krsna—so Krsna has got full independence, but we are minute; therefore we have got minute independence. Our business is to serve Krsna, but as soon as we give up this idea, we want to become master. That is the beginning of our material birth''. (Lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.5.2--Hyderabad, April 11, 1975)
Acyutananda - ''But in the Gita, it says, "Once coming there, he never returns."
Srila Prabhupada - ''But if he likes, he can return''.
Acyutananda - ''He can return?''
Srila Prabhupada - ''That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown''. (Morning Walk--February 19, 1976, Mayapura)
Srila Prabhupada - ''Also existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness'' (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
The following Conversation took place in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples.
Devotee – “When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krishna, we have a perfect relationship with Krishna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already serving Krishna?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Because you desire to fall down. Here it is explained that “Don’t fall down.”
Devotee – “Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving…”
Srila Prabhupada – “Because you have got little freedom. Why one is not coming here and going to the liquor shop? It is his desire.
Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come, why are we here?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes. You forced Krishna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your risk. That’s all. And you suffer. What can be done?” Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist that “I must go and enjoy independently,” so God says, “All right, you can go.” This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy”. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)
Question - Is there a place in the Spiritual World from where we can never fall down from?
Answer - It is not based on a "place you can never fall down from" that will keep you in Vaikuntha, it does not work that way because it is based on "free will" which is ‘’your choice’’ in reciprocation with Krishna. If we are forced to love Krishna and have no free will, then how can there be genuine love?
Srila Prabhupada - "Also unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
Loving relationships are always a two way street based on reciprocation and loving exchanges, it is never a slave domineering master relationship that only destroys one's free will and sense of individual self.
Remaining in Vaikuntha "eternally" is also based on the marginal living entities unique selflessness and free will to also choose.
And of course, being able to freely choose individual "loving" personal exchanges and contributions as an offering while serving the Lord as the perpetual "person" the jiva souls are eternally.
No two jiva-souls are the same, each has their own unique individual personality and character when engaging in loving exchanges with Krishna.
Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, there is exchange. Giving something, taking something, feeding something and to eat something, and speaking everything, no secrecy, and to know everything of the other person. When these things are transacted, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there". (Evening Darsana, August 9, 1976, Tehran)
With such selfless emotions of loving devotion, the jiva-soul NEVER loses their free will, which means their own individual ability of self expression, when choosing to offer their own personal contributions that are unique to each individual souls (jiva-tattva)
Each jiva-soul has this eternal marginal quality, which is part and parcel of there perpetual make up or constitution as being the marginal living entity or jiva-tattva-soul they are.
In this way, each of the jiva-soul's have their own individual sense of self, character and personality and being a unique one of a kind in the Spiritual Sky, unlike any other jiva-soul.
Again it is important to understand that no two jiva-souls are the same.
This eternally existing spiritual social code, that includes "free will" and an independent personal sense of individual self, make up the character and personality of each jiva soul that is without any beginning or ending point, and is part and parcel of every marginal living entities (jiva-souls) eternal constitution.
This allows the jiva-soul to personally always be aware that they are a unique individual independent person while serving Krishna, being different from all other living entities in the Spiritual Sky.
"Free will" means, it is the jiva soul's choice of how to they want surrender and serve Krishna, or even not surrender if they choose however, more than 90% of jiva souls NEVER choose to foolishly enter the material creation.
Only less than 10% foolishly choose to enter the material creation Prabhupada tells us.
It is also their choice of what THEY want to offer and contribute to the Lord, which is the very best from their personal unique abilities and talents they voluntarily choose to selflessly offer to Krishna.
But also each jiva-soul knows it pleases Krishna the most by humbly and selflessly serving the servants of the servants of Krishna in Goloka-Vrindavan or Vaikuntha.
This "selflessness" of serving the servant of the servant of Krishna is the highest realization of love of God.
The fact that one does NOT fall from God's personal Kingdom, is the jiva souls personal responsibility and choice, and NOT Gods (Krishna).
It is the jiva-souls choice, it is their free will that allows them to choose, and nobody else including Krishna, interferes with that choice. This is because Krishna NEVER forces us to love Him.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling, then there is love. Not by force! Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - ''Because you are Son of God you have got independence, so God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist that “I must go and enjoy independently'', God says, “All right, you can go and enjoy”. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)
Srila Prabhupada explains in "Nectar of Devotion", that just like the Sun cannot be separated from the Sun-rays, similarly Krishna is meaningless without the association of His loving devotees.
And in Krsna Book Prabhupada also further explains -
Srila Prabhupada - "As the sun disc and the sunshine cannot be separated, Kṛṣṇa and His bodily rays, the brahmajyoti, cannot be separated". (Krsna Book, 89)
The relationship between Krishna and the jiva-tattva (soul) is NEVER one-sided, never forced, never impersonal, it is ALWAYS reciprocal, nurturing, personal and voluntary, in a mood of good exchanges and feelings, ONLY then can there be REAL love.
Srila Prabhupada explained to us many years ago-
“If you love me, then I will love you” as an example that there must always be loving cooperation and responding in kindness.
The fact is 90% of all living entities choose NOT fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana because they "choose" not to do so. That "choice" is always with the marginal living entities or jiva-tattva souls as well.
How is this so?
The jiva-tattva soul or marginal living entity, has 78.125% of Krishna's quantities, which is 50 of His 64 qualities.
This puts marginal living entities in the realm of having their own "sense of independent self, identity, personality, individuality, and the ability to choose for themselves. This means the jiva-tattva souls have the ability to agree or not agree with Krishna if they choose.
This sense of individuality allows the jiva-soul or jivatma the right to choose Krishna or choose to be separate from Krishna and enter the material creation.
Remember Maya and the material energy does NOT exist in Vaikuntha so that is unknown to the jiva-tattva souls (marginal living entities) in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.
However, having "free will, individuality, independence, experiencing a unique sense of individual self, and the ability to express all these qualities is eternally the constitutional makeup of all marginal living entities jiva-souls in Vaikuntha.
This is because they have 78.125% of Krishna's qualities that makes them minor expansions of the Lord with their OWN personality.
Unlike the direct Vishnu-tattva expansions who all have 60 of Krishna's 64 qualities (93.75%) making them Krishna just playing another role as Himself.
If free will is taken away from the marginal living entities, then we lose the ability to give and accept love, we become no better than dead stone or a mindless robot or drone.
Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence”. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974).
For love to truly exist, the jiva-souls (jivatma or jiva-tattva) MUST have the free will and right as part of their marginal constitutional make up, to choose in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana at all times.
And sadly the fact is, a small minority do choose to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan (less than 10%), regardless of how some have interpreted past Sages and Acharyas claiming no one can ever fall down from Vaikuntha.
To say those in Vaikuntha will "never ever fall down" IS true - but ONLY for those who choose NOT to fall down".
In other words, if the jiva wants to leave they certainly can.
To make a blanket comment that "not even the leaves fall and leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana" seems to not take into consideration the free will of the jiva-tattva soul.
These comments from past Sages and Acharyas claiming the jiva-souls can never fall down once from Vaikuntha, may have been said for many reasons, to give faith among aspiring devotees and neophytes, or to encourage them to understand that their constitutional position IS to NEVER ‘’choose’’ to leave Vaikuntha, and NEVER desire to leave once they are in Vaikuntha.
However, to leave and end up in the material creation is ultimately the jiva tattva's choice, and Krishna does not interfere with that, even though Krishna has promised there is no return to the material creation.
The fact is there IS return if the jiva-tattva wants to return, this is Prabhupada's point here -
Acyutananda – “But in the Gita, it says, “Once coming there, he never returns. He can return?”
Srila Prabhupada – “If he likes he can return”.
Guru-kripa – “How is it that one can become envious of Krishna?”
Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence, you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God, God has got full independence, but you have got little independence, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krishna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown”. (Conversation, Mayapur, February 19, 1976)
Returning home back to Godhead is not necessarily permanent Prabhupada explains here, that choice to stay or go is always the jiva souls.
For love to truly exist with the jiva-tattva (jivatma or jiva-tattva soul) we MUST have the the right to choose to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana at anytime, therefore returning there is not necessarily permanent Prabhupada explains here.
Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence, you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God, God has got full independence, but you have got little independence, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krishna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown”. (Conversation, Mayapur, February 19, 1976)
Syamasundara - "But can we predict that the process (returning back home back to Godhead) will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison, but some come back''
Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time".
Syamasundara - "And some come back?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes. Otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."
Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"
Srila Prabhupada - "No. There is no question of permanent because he has got independence, he can misuse his independence, he can fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is NOT to come back. but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again". (Discussions with Syamasundara > Henri Bergson)
For those who believe past Acharyas and sages meant ''no one can ever fall down'' from Vaikuntha, have NOT understood the variety of living entities in Vaikuntha, and that it is only a very small minority of jiva tattva souls who do choose to leave.
They have NOT understood there are many different inhabitants of Vrindavana who never fall down by choice because they are more direct expansions of Krishna, such as the Vishnu-sakti-tattvas who are Krishna Himself playing another role in His pastimes, they never fall down because they ARE simultaneously eternal associates and Krishna Himself experiencing Himself in unlimited extended ways.
So for the Vishnu-tattvas, and Sakti-Vishnu-tattvas, they choose like Krishna because they ARE Krishna just playing a different role.
And for over 90% of jiva-tattva-souls who do have the ability to choose as an independent person, they also never fall down because they NEVER "choose" to fall down.
Devotee - “Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Krsnaloka, there’s no possibility of falling back”.
Srila Prabhupada - “No! There is possibility, but he does not come. Just like after putting your hand in the fire, you never put it again if you are really intelligent. So those who are going back to Godhead, they become intelligent. Why going back to Godhead? Just like we are in renounced order of life. So we have renounced our family life after thinking something. Now, if somebody comes, “Swamiji, you take thousand millions of dollars and marry again and become a family man,” I’ll never become, because I have got my bad experience. I’ll never become." (Discussions with Syamasundara Dasa).
However, Prabhupada also says there will always be a very small minority of only the jiva tattvas (not the Vishnu-sakti-tattva or Vishnu-tattva "direct expansions"of Krishna) who misuse their ability to "choose" and leave if they desire.
"Free will" is eternal in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, and without our ‘sovereignty as a living being’ to either forget or remember Krishna, then we would not have any individuality, no independent personality and no ability to love, we would simply be mindless ''yes man and woman'' like machine drones in a factory.
Srila Prabhupada - “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is NOT independence. That is force. Therefore Krishna says, yathecchasi tathä kuru. “Now you do whatever you like.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence, you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God, God has got full independence, but you have got little independence, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krishna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown”. (Conversation, Mayapur, February 19, 1976).**^^
