Wednesday, September 1, 2021

The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) can NEVER exist independently from Krsna even though they can express their own independent free will that Krsna provides for the purpose of allowing variety in a "two-way" voluntary exchange of loving expressions, emotions and unique personal offerings.

The Sun-disc and the Sun-rays CANNOT exist separately from each other, similarly Krsna cannot exist separately from His devotees (parts and parcels)

Each "jiva-soul" (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind independent individual with their own unique personality different from other personalities including Kṛṣṇas.

No two individual jiva-souls are the same, and no jiva-souls can EVER become God (Krsna or Visnu).

Loving devotional service to Krsna is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" voluntary exchange of personal feelings manifesting as loving acts of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions (offerings) of devotional service to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will that does not deny the "free will" of each jiva-soul.

On the other hand, actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering forceful mood from a "so called God" in His Kingdom that does not allow personal voluntary contributions from the individual jiva-souls in a "two-way" exchange of feelings, is dangerous impersonalism.

Personalism means a "two-way" relationship that includes voluntary loving exchange of feelings that expands, enriches and multiplies loving affection, sentiment and exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.

Just like with the Sun-disc and the sun-rays (sunshine) there is no separation between the two similarly, the jiva-souls and Krsna can never be separated.

However, there is a difference between the Sun-disc and sun-rays, the molecules of the "sun-rays" are not equal to the massive "Sun-disc" that they emanate from.

Krsna (compared to the Sun-disc) and His marginal living entities or jiva-souls (compared to the sun-rays) are never equal, only Krsna's Visnu-tattva and Visnu-sakti-tattva direct expansions are almost equal to Krsna. 

In this way the jiva-souls are simultaneously one with Krsna yet at the same time different with individual personalities SEPARATE from Krsna's Personality. 

The jiva-souls are known as the "marginal potency" of Krsna's energies but are NOT the Visnu-tattva or Visnu-sakti-tattva living entity expansions of Krsna.

What is Visnu-sakti-tattva? 

Srila Prabhupada - "Tattva is manifested in different ways-

1 - Viṣṇu-tattva,

2 - Viṣṇu-śakti-tattva

3 - jīva-tattva,

like that". (Lecture on SB 6.2.7 -- Vrndavana, September 10, 1975)

Because the word "sakti refers to all the different categories of living entities including the jiva-souls, when sakti is refering to Radharani and other Visnu-tattva living entities, then word Visnu is put in front of sakti - Visnu-sakti-tattva, just so one knows who is the Supreme Lord and who is not.

As said above, Krsna is compared to the "Sun-disc" and the many different types of living entities like 

Visnu-tattva, 

Visnu-sakti-tattva, 

jiva-tattva souls. 

All are compared to the surrounding "sun-rays" in the category of Sakti (energy) who are dependent on Krsna, just like the sun-rays are dependent on the Sun-disc.

By this example we can also understand that the Sun-disc and the sun-rays can NEVER be separated meaning Krsna can never be separated from His parts and parcels (the many varieties of living entities mentioned above).

In other words Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, is ALWAYS surrounded by His parts and can NEVER be separated from them.

The various types of living entities are - 

1 - Visnu-tattva (Visnu/Narayana expansions who are different versions of Krsna's Personality) 

2 - Visnu-sakti-tattva (Radharani and many of Her associates who also are different versions of Krsna's Personality) 

3 - Jiva-tattva the independent marginal living entities (jiva-souls) who have their own individuality and Personality separate from Krsna's Personality unlike the above two.

All are eternal like Krsna, meaning they were NEVER created.

Although it is said Krsna created Radharani just to experience the love of a women however, this is a paradox because Radha and Krsna have eternally existed without beginning or end.

It does appear that some living entities are created because some expansions manifest for a particular lila or pastime however, within the "eternal presence" of Krsna their existence is without beginning or end because those pastimes are eternally going on in different places in the Spiritual Worlds.

From the Sun-disc, the Sun-rays (sunshine) exist simultaneously with the Sun-disc and were NEVER created separately, similarly this means Krsna and the living entities can NEVER exist without each other and have both ALWAYS existed.

Krsna is fully complete AS Himself, who can NEVER be alone because Krsna is EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING resides in Him

In this way Krsna is ALWAYS enjoying with His unlimited parts and parcels mentioned above, just like the Sun-disc is always shining magnificently AS the surrounding sun-rays that exist simultaneously with the Sun-disc.

The Sun-disc and the Sun-rays CANNOT exist separately from each other, similarly Krsna cannot exist separately from His parts and parcels the living entities.

Krsna without His expansions is not possible, just like the Sun-disc without the sun-rays is not possible.

There was never a time Krsna or the living entities did not exist as Kṛṣṇa says in Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 Text 12 -

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be".

The reason why Krsna is fully complete within Himself is understood in this way -

Kṛṣṇa is NEVER alone by himself, and has never been alone because EVERYTHING is situated in Him and simultaneously different from Him.

Krsna is an individual independent Person, and at the same time expands as many Persons making Krsna simultaneously one and different.

This means Krsna can NEVER be alone because He is already EVERYTHING and everything is ALWAYS part and parcel of Him.

Krsna's highest intimate association is ALWAYS with His eternal consort Srimati Rādhārāṇī, She is the internal potency of Krsna and eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, so how can Kṛṣṇa ever be alone? 

All the devotees of Krsna must win the attention of Srimati Radharani to get Krsna's favour, as all service to Krsna only reaches Him through Her.

Srila Prabhupada - "I offer my respects to Rādhārāṇī, whose bodily complexion is like molten gold and who is the Queen of Vṛndāvana. You are the daughter of King Vṛṣabhānu very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa.

So if we approach Kṛṣṇa through Rādhārāṇī, through the mercy of Rādhārāṇī, then it becomes very easy. If Rādhārāṇī recommends that "This devotee is very nice," then Kṛṣṇa immediately accepts, however fool I may be. Because it is recommended by Rādhārāṇī, Kṛṣṇa accepts.

Therefore in Vṛndāvana you'll find all the devotees, they're chanting more Rādhārāṇī's name than Kṛṣṇa's. Wherever you'll go, you'll find the devotees are addressing, "Jaya Rādhe." You'll find still in Vṛndāvana. They are glorifying Rādhārāṇī. They're more interested, worshiping Rādhārāṇī. Because however fallen I may be, if some way or other I can please Rādhārāṇī, then it is very easy for me to understand Kṛṣṇa.

However, if you go by the speculative process to understand Kṛṣṇa, it will take many, many lives. But if you take devotional service, just try to please Rādhārāṇī, and Kṛṣṇa will be gotten very easily. Because Rādhārāṇī can deliver Kṛṣṇa. She is so great devotee, the emblem of mahā-bhāgavata.

Even Kṛṣṇa cannot understand what is Rādhārāṇī's quality.

Even Kṛṣṇa, although He says vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26), "I know everything," still, He fails to understand Rādhārāṇī. Rādhārāṇī is so great.

Actually, Kṛṣṇa knows everything. In order to understand Rādhārāṇī, Kṛṣṇa accepted the position of Rādhārāṇī. Kṛṣṇa wanted to understand the potency of Rādhārāṇī. 

Kṛṣṇa thought that "I am full. I am complete in every respect, but still, I want to understand Rādhārāṇī.

 Why?" This propensity made Kṛṣṇa obliged to accept the propensities of Rādhārāṇī, to understand Kṛṣṇa, Himself.

One who is advanced in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and well conversant with the śāstras can understand this. When Kṛṣṇa wanted to understand Himself, He took the tendency of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. And that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

Rādhā-bhāva-dyuti-suvalitam

Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa, but He has accepted the propensities of Rādhārāṇī. As Rādhārāṇī is always in feelings of separation of Kṛṣṇa, similarly, in the position of Rādhārāṇī, Lord Caitanya was feeling separation of Kṛṣṇa. That is the teachings of Lord Caitanya, feelings of separation, not meeting.

The process of devotional service taught by Caitanya Mahāprabhu and His disciplic succession is how to feel separation from Kṛṣṇa. That is Rādhārāṇī's position, ALWAYS feeling the separation". (Srimati Radharani's Appearance Day, London, August 29, 1971)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy. 

Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. 

Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. 

But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt. (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Kṛṣṇa kills the demons outside Vṛndāvana, He is not original Kṛṣṇa; He is Vāsudeva. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19). When Kṛṣṇa is acting universally, that is Vāsudeva. Original Kṛṣṇa is ALWAYS in Vṛndāvana.

Jayatīrtha - "If the original Kṛṣṇa is always in Vṛndāvana, then why do the gopīs and Rādhārāṇī feel separation from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That is here, in this material world. In the spiritual world Kṛṣṇa does not leave.

Jayatīrtha - "Oh".

Srila Prabhupāda - "And even in the material world, Kṛṣṇa superficially has gone to Mathurā, but He has captured the heart of the gopīs. So He is not leaving. Gopīs are enjoying Kṛṣṇa by separation. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's feeling, how He is appreciating Kṛṣṇa by separation. (Morning Walk, July 17, 1975, San Francisco)

Guest - "What category is Radharani in?

Srila Prabhupada - "She is śakti, Cit-śakti. Bhagavān ke pleasure potency. Śakti, śakti-tattva, Śaktimān. Bhagavān is Śaktimān, and that śakti is Rādhārāṇī or Sītā or Lakṣmī. Durgā is also śakti, another feature of Rādhārāṇī".

Guest - "Śakti in original form is Rādhā?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes. Parāsya śaktih..., parāsya śaktir vividhaiva śrūyate (CC Madhya 13.65, purport). Originally cit-śakti. That cit-śakti is expanding. Just like we are..., rāmādi mūrtiṣu kalā-niyamena tiṣṭhan (Bs. 5.39). Kalā means part and parcel. So we are also part and parcel, but we are very small part and parcel. But rāmādi mūrti, they are bigger part and parcel.

Just like if you throw one brick on the floor, so there will be so many small particles, big particles, this particle, that. They are all part and parcel of the brick, but one part very small atomic part, and one big part, this part, this part, then this part, then this part. 

So all, Kṛṣṇa is the origin, and everyone is part and parcel. Some of them are bigger and some of them are smaller. So Viṣṇu-tattva is almost like Kṛṣṇa".

Guest - "Like Kṛṣṇa".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Others, they are very small. So according to the size, or according to the power..."

Guest - "Power".

Srila Prabhupāda - "The part and parcel exercises his position. Some of them are Viṣṇu-tattva, some of them are Jīva-tattva, some of them are Śakti-tattva and some of them para-tattva. Like that".

Guest - "Para-tattva?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Para-tattva is Bhagavān. Para-tattva means Kṛṣṇa, Rāma, Nārāyaṇa, Viṣṇu. These are all para-tattva. Bhagavān avatāra, rāmā, nṛsiṁha, varāha, kūrma, vāmana, daśāvatāra, all avatāra.

Or śakti-tattva, material energy, aparā-tattva, matter.

Similarly cit-tattva, spiritual world. The living entities, although they are in the material world, they belong to the spiritual world.

Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, apareyam. This material energy is inferior. Itas viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām. Beyond this material world is another, superior energy that includes jīva-bhūta and jiva-tattva". (Room Conversation, November 11, 1971, New Delhi)

This is the full expression of Lord Krsna's energies making Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes and is fully satisfied in Himself, enjoying through all of His different expansions.

Krsna is always with the jiva-souls, in fact all of His Visnu-tattva expansions and independent jiva-soul expansions are also found even within every atom.

Krsna is NEVER alone just like the Sun-disc is never alone due to the surrounding sun-rays (sunshine)

As said above, Krsna is compared to the Sun-disc and the different types of living entities are compared to the sun-rays, the Sun-disc and the sun-rays can never exist without each other, just like Krsna cannot exist without being surrounded by His parts and parcels (the living entities)

In this way, Krsna IS the Supreme Lord who is simultaneously one with all that there is, but at the same time different and independent from all of His expansions too.

Krsna's eternal consort Srimati Rādhārāṇī is the manifestation of His pleasure potency and was created by Krsna so He could experience the loving intimate exchanges with a women.

Guest - "Srila Prabhupāda, are we expansions of Rādhā?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No. Rādhā is the internal potency, we are marginal potency. Of course, originally, in that sense, everything is Kṛṣṇa's expansion. Sarvaṁ khalv idaṁ brahma. But even there are expansions... That is the difference between Māyāvāda philosophy and Vaiṣṇava philosophy.

Caitanya Mahāprabhu teaches acintya bhedābheda. We are always simultaneously one and different. Always. 

We should remember we are expansion of Kṛṣṇa, we are expansion of Rādhā also because Rādhā is also expansion of Kṛṣṇa. But still, different. That is our philosophy -

"One and different simultaneously - 

Acintya bhedābheda".

This is Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahāprabhu's philosophy which is known as "inconceivable simultaneously one and different".

This is explained in the Seventh Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā. The energies and the energetic is the same. Śakti-śaktimator abheda.

Just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays (sunshine) are seemingly the same and no different, the fact is the molecules of the sunshine particles (sun-rays) are NOT equal to the Sun-disc. 

These truths we shall always remember. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvāḥ. Therefore these are inconceivable. 

We are simultaneously one with Kṛṣṇa and Rādhā, and at the same time different". (Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are "one and the same", but They have assumed two bodies. Thus They enjoy each other, tasting the mellows of love. 

The two transcendentalists Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are a puzzle to materialists. 

The description of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa from the diary of Śrīla Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī is a condensed explanation, but one needs great spiritual insight to understand the mystery of these two personalities.

One is enjoying in two.

Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the potent factor, and Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency. 

According to Vedānta philosophy, there is no difference between the potent and the potency; they are identical. 

We cannot differentiate between one and the other, any more than we can separate fire from heat.

Everything in the Absolute is inconceivable in relative existence. Therefore in relative cognizance it is very difficult to assimilate this truth of the oneness between the potent and the potency. 

The philosophy of inconceivable oneness and difference propounded by Lord Caitanya is the only source of understanding for such intricacies of transcendence.

In fact, Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and She eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Impersonalists cannot understand this without the help of a mahā-bhāgavata devotee.

The very name “Rādhā” suggests that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is eternally the topmost mistress of the comforts of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. As such, She is the medium transmitting the living entities’ service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Devotees in Vṛndāvana therefore seek the mercy of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in order to be recognized as loving servitors of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.56, Translation and Purport)

As said above, all the devotees of Krsna must win the attention of Radharani to get Krsna's attention, as all service to Krsna only reaches Krsna by going through Her.

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī". (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38 Purport)

Krsna divided Himself into "two" so He could experience loving exchanges. For even Krsna, love can NEVER exist when there is just "one", there MUST be His expansions like Srimati Radharani and His Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva expansions that allow a two-way exchange.

Love can NEVER exist with just one, there always must be two for loving exchanges to exist.

To experience loving exchanges and emotions with a women, Krsna divided Himself into two, that women is Srimati Radharani.

Krsna wanted to experience loving emotions and affection with a women, this is why He divided Himself into "two" - Radha and Krsna, just so He could experience those loving exchanges.

Madhudviṣa Swami - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you spoke of inferior energy and superior energy. Those are two general categories. Are there other categories of energies besides that, and specifically how could we understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī Is She?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "She is spiritual energy".

Madhudviṣa Swami - "But is She jīva-bhūta or?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no, no. She is Kṛṣṇa. If everything is Kṛṣṇa and Rādhārāṇī is not Kṛṣṇa, what is that? Kṛṣṇa. He (She) is Kṛṣṇa. She is the Kṛṣṇa's pleasure potency".

Madhudviṣa Swami - "She is not jīva?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no, no. She is Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa divided Himself into His energy and Himself. That energy, original spiritual energy, is Rādhārāṇī. That is stated by Jīva Gosvāmī. Rādhā kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmāt. When Kṛṣṇa wants pleasure, He cannot accept the inferior energy.

The same superior energy, Kṛṣṇa, is divided into two. That is Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. And again, when they unite, that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Divided, they are Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, and united, Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya rādhā-kṛṣṇa nahe anya. Anya means another.

So Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya is combination of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. And when they are divided into two, that is Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. 

This is the purport. Rādhā kṛṣṇa praṇaya vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmād ekātmānāv api bhuvi purā deha-bhedaṁ gatau tau, śrī-caitanyākhyaṁ prakaṭam adhunā tad-dvayaṁ caikyam āptam [Cc. Ādi 1.5]. These are the conclusion. 

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa combination but He is playing the part of Rādhārāṇī to understand Kṛṣṇa. 

This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Rādhārāṇī is the chief gopī and all Her young girl friends, they are also gopīs. (Lecture on SB 2.1.1-5 -- Melbourne, June 26, 1974)

"Rādhikā is the transformation of Kṛṣṇa’s love. She is His internal energy called hlādinī". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.59, Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "Mind, senses and body are steeped in love for Kṛṣṇa. Radha is Kṛṣṇa’s own energy, She helps Him in His pastimes. 

Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is as fully spiritual as Kṛṣṇa. No one should consider Her to be material. 

She is definitely not like the conditioned souls, who have material bodies, gross and subtle, covered by material senses. 

She is all-spiritual, and both Her body and Her mind are of the same spiritual embodiment.

Because Her body is spiritual, Her senses are also spiritual. Thus Her body, mind and senses fully shine in love of Kṛṣṇa. 

She is the personified hlādinī-śakti (the pleasure-giving energy of the Lord’s internal potency), and therefore She is the only source of enjoyment for Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Śrī Kṛṣṇa cannot enjoy anything that is internally different from Him. Therefore Rādhā and Śrī Kṛṣṇa are identical. 

The sandhinī portion of Śrī Kṛṣṇa’s internal potency has manifested the all-attractive form of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and the same internal potency, in the hlādinī feature, has presented Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, who is the attraction for the all-attractive. 

No one can match Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in the transcendental pastimes of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.71, Translation and Purport)

"Just as the fountainhead, Lord Kṛṣṇa, is the cause of all incarnations, so Śrī Rādhā is the cause of all these consorts". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.76, Translation)

"Rādhā is the one who gives pleasure to Govinda, and She is also the enchantress of Govinda. 

She is the be-all and end-all of Govinda, and the crest jewel of all His consorts". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.82, Translation)

"The transcendental goddess Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the direct counterpart of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa. She is the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. 

She possesses all the attractiveness to attract the all-attractive Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of the Lord". (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.83, Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī. 

It is explained by the Gosvāmīs that Rādhārāṇī is the manifestation of the pleasure potency of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

When the Supreme Lord wants to derive transcendental pleasure, He has to create a woman from His internal potency and that women is Srimati Radharani" (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38, Purport)

Love can only exist when there are "two or more" involved in voluntary loving reciprocations and exchanges this is why Krishna created Radharani.

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be "one" or love cannot be executed only one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love''. (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 1 Chapter 2 text 6, Delhi, November 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda – ''Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there". (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Krsna is ALWAYS complete in Himself and is NEVER alone because within Krsna is EVERYTHING and therefore can become two personalities or more anytime likes.

For example, Krsna is always enjoying in Vrindavana with His consort Srimati Radharani, who Krsna created by dividing Himself into two just so He could experience loving exchanges with a women.

Krsna is "FULLY COMPLETE" as Himself that includes being simultaneously all of His unlimited expansions who are all part and parcel of Him.

In other words, just like the sun-disc is ONLY fully complete when surrounded by the Sun-rays (sunshine), Krsna's full potential of loving expressions are naturally ONLY fully complete when surrounded by His devotees headed by Srimati Radharani.

This is what it means when it is said Krsna is fully complete within Himself, because ALL living entities are His part and parcel.

For none devotees these teachings are inconceivable.

Krsna is "FULLY COMPLETE" as Himself enjoying unlimited pastimes as follows 

1 - With His internal energy headed by Srimati Radharani (Included as Visnu-sakti-tattva)

2 - His Visnu-tattva expansions on the Spiritual Vaikuntha Planets who are unlimited Visnu/Narayana expansions each with different names that also includes Maha Vishnu and Garbhodakashayi Visnu who manage the material creation.

Both Visnu-sakti-tattvas and Visnu-tattvas have 93.75% of Krsna’s qualities which means they have 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

The above two categories ARE direct expansions of Krsna's Personality who are also God where Krsna is playing a different role within His own pastimes.

3 - His Siva-tattva expansions (there are many personalities who are expansions of Siva too)

4 - His jiva-tattva expansions (marginal living entities or jiva-tattva-souls)

These two (Siva-tattva and the jiva-tattva souls) are NOT "God" meaning they are NOT Visnu-sakti-tattva (internal potency headed by Srimati Radharani) or Visnu-tattva (Narayana, Visnu, Maha Vishnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu etc).

Siva-tattva has 84.375% of Krsna's qualities, which means Siva has 55 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

The jiva-tattva souls have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities which means they have 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

Both Siva and the individual jiva-souls have independent individual personalities separate from Krsna's Personality, so they can NEVER become God like Visnu-tattva or Sakti-Visnu-tattva are.

However, the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are ALWAYS dependent on Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes being His parts and parcels.

Therefore the jiva souls can NEVER exist independently from Krsna even though they can express their free will that Krsna provides for the purpose of allowing a two-way voluntary exchange of loving expressions and emotions.

Krsna allows this free will that is only experienced in a two-way exchange of feelings because loving relationships can NEVER exist on a one-way platform.

The fact is nothing can be separated from Krsna even though the jiva-souls have their own separate identity and personality different from Krsna's Personality.

These living entities manifest as different categories of Krsna's energies, and can NEVER be separated from Krsna, just like the "sun-rays can NEVER exist separately from the "Sun-disc".

Krsna is NEVER alone due to EVERYTHING being completely situated within Him because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

"The cause of ALL causes" is significant here - meaning EVERYTHING is Krsna's manifestation.

Krsna is "simultaneously one and different", as an independent individual PERSON, and as His different expansions also.

EVERYTHING is part and parcel of Krsna, this is the top most realization of Krsna's full potential making Him the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

Krsna is naturally fully satisfied in Himself who, as His original form, never leaves Vṛndāvana, making Him simultaneously different from all of His other energies as an independent person. 

This allows Krsna to be fully complete in Himself and always satisfied and NEVER alone.

Krsna IS the Supreme Personal Lord (God) who has His own two armed individual bodily Form (Vigraha) as shown in His Vrindavana pastimes. 

Krsna is also simultaneously ALL the other living entities too who expand from Him just like the Sun-rays radiate from the Sun-disc.

For example-

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are "one and the same", but They have assumed two bodies. Thus They enjoy each other, tasting the mellows of love. 

One is enjoying in two, we cannot differentiate between one and the other, any more than we can separate fire from heat.

The philosophy of inconceivable oneness and difference propounded by Lord Caitanya is the only source of understanding for such intricacies of transcendence.

Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Impersonalists cannot understand this without the help of a mahā-bhāgavata devotee. The very name “Rādhā” suggests that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is eternally the topmost mistress of the comforts of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 

As such, She is the medium transmitting the living entities’ service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 

Devotees in Vṛndāvana therefore seek the mercy of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in order to be recognized as loving servitors of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.56, Translation and Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī". (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38 Purport)

As already explained, devotees must win the attention of Srimati Radharani to get Krsna's favour, as all service only reaches Krsna through Her.

As said above, REAL loving expressions can NEVER a on a "one way street", the jiva-souls MUST have their "free will" too that makes the relationship a "two way" exchange that allows loving voluntary offerings in the mood of reciprocation.

Srila Prabhupada clearly says without "free will" you are no better than DEAD stone, and to give up free will is impersonalism.

Therefore we must use our "free will" and act in ways that expands our loving exchanges with Krsna, and NEVER deny that free will or one's unique quality of self expression that all jiva-souls have as part of their eternal constitution.

This is what REAL Personalism is.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Sadly in some ISKCON Temples today still exists a very subtle expression of impersonalism, although it has improved a lot since the 1970s and 80s. 

Such impersonal leadership masquerading as Vaishnava Personalism, is actually dangerous impersonalism.

Devotees have to be encouraged to think for themselves and take responsibility for their own actions by being encouraged to make their own choices of how to voluntarily serve.

We should ALWAYS remember the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are PERSONALIST.

This means a PERSON naturally is involved in "two-way" loving exchange with Krsna in other words, being a contributing individual PERSON can NEVER manifest in a "one-way" mindless dictatorship.

Therefore being a PERSONALIST in the Spiritual World's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana means you MUST have your "free will" in order to express yourself voluntarily as an individual and contribute to those loving exchanges with Krsna.

Otherwise you are just a programmed "yes man or women" in a mindless collective who are never encouraged or nurtured to think for themselves by contributing from their own independent ability of self expression.

The Spiritual Worlds are NOT an impersonal collective of jiva-souls who all think and act in the same way like mindless robots in a factory who are always controlled and programmed by the factory owner.

Love is NEVER like that because it can NEVER exist on a "one way street", you MUST have your free will too, to make it a "two way" exchange of voluntary offerings.

As said above, the "Spiritual World's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are NOT a dictatorial "one way" or "one sided" impersonal directive or  affair, or a domineering demanding realm that denies personal contributions, where a so called God does all the thinking and decision making for everyone on how to serve.

No, the Spiritual Planets are NOT impersonal or emotionally dead like that.

The fact is, in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) there are ALWAYS loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions going on based on "free will", and loving enriching reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees because without these attributes there can NEVER be love.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Therefore "loyalty" is ALWAYS a "two way" street where the jiva-souls have their own unique individual personality seperate from Krsna's Personality, who is able to add their own personal unique expressions into the relationship that expands and forever enhances and enriches one's friendship with Krsna.

Krsna will NEVER "force" us to do what we do not "choose" to do in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana because we are NOT Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who only do what they are told to think and act without providing personal voluntary contributions.

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So clearly surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal, it does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless place for the individual jiva souls in their relationship with Krsna or God.

No, the Kingdom of God is not like that in anyway, there is ALWAYS voluntary loving exchanges of feelings and emotions going on based on reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. 

Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. 

That is spiritual life. 

There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Cintamani (or the Cintamani Stone), is a wish-fulfilling jewel in Goloka Vrindavana.

Cintamani is ALWAYS aspired to achieve by great devotes because they ONLY desire to please Krsna.

To say you have no desires in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana is Impersonalism or Mayavadi nonsense.

One NEVER loses "desires" in the Spiritual Worlds because THOSE desires are forever expanding to always please Krsna.

It is foolish to think one becomes desireless in the Spiritual Worlds, only impersonalist try to extinguish their desires.

Actually devotees increase their desires in both Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana because they desire to ALWAYS please Krsna more and more.*^*.









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