Gauragopala Das ACBSP: Voluntary service is the bases and real meaning of genuine "surrender" in Goloka Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets, which are the permanent eternal homes and origin for all marginal living entities (jiva-souls)

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever voluntarily expanding the expression of their unique individuality with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings based on free will, it is never a nonsense one-sided master/slave mindless relationship with Krsna as explained above.

Krsna does not control the "surrendered" jiva-souls by force like a puppet master controls every movement of his puppets with the manipulations of strings, denying self expression, individual contributions and voluntary service.

However, Krsna does control His pure devotees with loving affection based on "reciprocal loving exchanges." This is because the jiva-souls in their original awareness of genuine Krsna consciousness, will ONLY relate as a "contributing person" in a two-sided voluntary loving exchange with Krsna.

But there is always a choice in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will if I can act only one sided? That means I have no free will. Because we can act wrongly, that means we have free will." (Philosophy Discussions with Rene Descartes and Hayagriva (Honolulu/Los Angeles, May/June 1976)

The "eternal marginal living entities" (jiva-souls) never lose their "free will" in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan because both are eternal for infinity.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is 1983 "correct edition," Chapter 2 text 20-

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20 "correct" edition 1983)

The jiva-soul's (marginal living entities) original bodily form is having the same bodily features as Krsna, which is-

sat,

cit,

ananda,

vigraha.

Which means-

eternity,

knowledge,

bliss,

form.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is a two arm form like Krsna's Form.

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 - Melb, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it "one way" only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is "free will." Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Philosophy Discussions with Rene Descartes and Hayagriva (Honolulu/Los Angeles, May/June 1976)

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence which means you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God, you have independence too, proportionately, so if you likes, you can return to the material worlds. That independence has to be accepted which we can misuse. That misuse is the cause of our falldown." (Conversation, Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)

Without "free will" genuine loving exchanges in a "two-way" direction based on reciprocation and voluntary contributions or offerings, can NEVER exist.

Freedom and free will means having the choice to accept or reject Krsna otherwise there is no question of freedom or voluntary loving exchanges. Real love can never exist if this was not the standard.

Those scholars, Gurus, Sannyasis and devotees who make the sentimental claim "not even the leaves can fall down from Vaikuntha" are not understanding the concept of "free will" and the voluntary "two-way" reciprocal exchanges going on between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls.

The Spiritual planets are NOT a nonsense "one-way" impersonal non-contributing dictatorship where one is always told what to do instead of encouraged to think for themselves.

The fact is one's position in the Spiritual planets can NEVER be claimed to be eternally permanent there even though for the majority (over 90%) of jiva-souls it is.

This is because there is ALWAYS "free will" in both Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

This means at any time the jiva-souls can leave if they choose to do so.

Many in other religious cults claim the jiva-souls can never fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana once there.

No, this idea is wrong, nonsense and incorrect because the jiva-souls can leave at anytime they want due to THEIR free will.

But most (over 90%) "choose" to stay. It is the choice of the jiva-soula too and NOT just Krsna's command that decides the fate of the jiva-souls.

Yes, one can fall down from Vaikuntha at anytime, not because of Maya or any material cause as explained above, but because they have their "free will", or the ability to make their own decisions.

Maya and material nature cannot exist in Vaikuntha and therefore is NOT the cause of fall down.

But the ability to choose DOES exist in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

However, once in the material creation "free will" is greatly restricted and almost does not exist.

Only in the human species does free will exist in a small degree, all other species act according to the instincts of eating, sleeping, mating and depending.

Therefore, in the lower species, good or bad karma is NOT created.

In fact good or bad karma is not created in the hellish or heavenly planets either, one who is there simply burns off their pious and impious bank balance accumulated while in a human material body on this Earth.

There are basically only two types of living entities, Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva.

Srila Prabhupada – “In the Padma Purana, it is said there are two kinds of spiritual entities; one is called the jiva-tattva, and the other is called the Visnu-tattva." (87th Ch, Krsna Book, Prayers by the Personified Vedas)

Srila Prabhupada - "The "immediate" expansions of the Lord are called svāṁśa or personal direct expansions (Visnu-tattva who are Krsna playing another role in His own pastimes). The "separated" expansions of the Lord are called vibhinnāṁśa - (jiva-tattva or independent jiva-souls) like us." (BG 10.37, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - We are marginal (the jiva-souls) who are sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about Krsna's associates, the principle is that all living entities are expansions of the Original Living Entity, Krsna.

But there are different grades of living entities-

1 - Visnu-tattva

2 - Jiva-tattva.

Visnu-tattva is almost equal to the level of the Personality of Godhead, and jiva-tattva (jiva-soul) is minute particles.

So when Lord Caitanya appeared, both Nityananda Prabhu and Advaita Prabhu were Visnu-tattva; whereas Gadadhara Prabhu and Srivas Prabhu were Sakti Tattva.

Jiva-tattva is also within the Sakti-tattva. These things are explained in TLC and other of our books.

Lord Nityananda is Balarama Himself, not an expansion of Him.

Srila Narottama das Thakura has sung that the Lord who appeared as the Son of Nanda Maharaja has now appeared as the son of Sacidevi; and the same Balarama has appeared as Nityananda. This is the statement of Srila Narottama das Thakura." (Letter to Jayagovinda - London 8 Dec, 1969)