The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS who can NEVER be destroyed, terminated, divided into pieces, extinguished or lose their unique individual identity as a "person" because they are indestructible for infinity.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)
All individual jīva-souls are ETERNAL persons, therefore there are no new jiva-souls being created because they have ALWAYS existed meaning they are beginningless and endless.
Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)
The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) have no origin or beginning point because they have ALWAYS existed for infinity as explained above.
So, clearly there is no origin or beginning point to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed and will continue to exist for eternity.
The individual jiva-souls can enter or possess and experience any material bodily container or vessel they choose over the infinity of its existence, but only temporarily.
This is because all outer material bodily vessels or containers (matter) that covers the eternal individual jiva-souls, eventually breaks down, decomposes (dies) and again merges back into the "oneness" of the material energy that all bodily vessels are made from in the material world.
However, the eternal individual jiva-souls are not affected by the decomposition and demise of the external temporary material bodily vessel they are in.
"Surrender" does not mean one needs to extinguish their unique identity, individuality and personality to become Krsna's servant, such impersonalism makes one no better than dead stone.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
All jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are independent unique individuals who can voluntarily choose how to contribute in their own unique way in their service to Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world service is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
In the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, Visnu and Krsna only expect voluntary personal offerings from the jiva-souls because such willing service initiates loving reciprocal exchanges between the Lord and His devotees in a "two-sided" loving exchange. The unique quality of free will allows individual acts of self-expression that leads to personal offerings.
Real love or service is based on a "two-way" exchange where the student Vaisnava is carefully nurtured to eventually achieve the personal goal of voluntary loving contributions that are the foundations of pure devotional service.
Such loving exchanges can only be fully expressed when the jiva-souls realize they each have their own independent characteristics and unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality, endorsed by free will.
Without free will, one would never have the vision to intelligently contribute in their relationship with Kṛṣṇa in their own unique way, and increase and expand one's awareness of who they are as a contributing independent individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul). Having "free will" therefore is the eternal constitutional make up of EVERY "marginal living entity (jiva-soul)," and the foundation for ALL jiva-soul's contributing relationship with Krsna.
Loving devotional service is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" voluntary exchange of personal feelings manifesting as loving acts of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions (offerings) of devotional service to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will.
On the other hand, actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering mood that do not encourage personal voluntary contributions, is dangerous impersonalism.
Personalism is only possible in a "two-way" exchange of feelings and emotions that expands, enriches and multiplies loving affection, sentiment and exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good, that is NOT love that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)
The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) can NEVER exist independently from Krsna however, they MUST have their freedom and independence also (a paradox) to be a contributing individual unique independent person, otherwise the jiva-souls are no better than impersonal puppets controlled by a puppet master.
Therefore, the jiva-soul's independent personality, identity and free will allows diversity and independent self expression, allowing the individual jiva-souls to make their own contributions or offerings, and even allows them to reject Krsna if they choose.
All these conditions must be allowed to exist otherwise loving exchanges with Krsna can NEVER exist.
Krsna will always allow a separate existence for His marginal living entities (jiva-souls) endorsed by having free will. This allows them to have their own unique personality for the purpose of creating a "two-way" voluntary exchange of individual loving expressions that encourage unique contributions and personal offerings.
Free will allows the eternal individual jiva-souls to independently express themselves separately from Krsna and gives them their own unique personality that allows self expression and voluntary contributions.
These independent unique qualities gives the jiva-soul's existence personal responsibility, purpose, creativity, hope, identity, a unique stand alone personality, allowing personal contributions of self-expression that makes the individual jiva-souls the independent PERSONS they are eternally.
These qualities establish the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) as independent PERSONS, as a spiritual bodily form whose eternal home are the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, within Krsna's eternal endless pastimes.
In the spiritual world personal voluntary expressions of loving exchanges expressed through free will, are ALWAYS encouraged by Krsna in His eternal relationship with the jiva-souls, this adds variegatedness, flavour, variety and mystery to the relationship between the individual jiva-souls and Krsna.
The Kingdom of God therefore, is NOT a "one-sided" dominating impersonal domain devoid of free will (freedom of self-expression), that does not allow personal independent contributions or offerings to God (Krsna), meant to expand, enrich, flavour and add mystery to the relationship.
Genuine loving relations and service are ALWAYS based on voluntary reciprocal exhanges and contributions between TWO, not just one (impersonalism)!
Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there MUST be two." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)
Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot ever fall down, that is not independence. That is force."(Mayapur, June 20, 1973)
Free will only has meaning when the jiva-souls can express themselves in a two-sided relationship by contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.
Srila Prabhupāda - "Love means a relationship between "two persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)
PHOTO - June 29, 1974 Melbourne Australia with Srila Prabhupāda at Rathayatra (50 years ago).
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