Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot ever fall down, that is not independence. That is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly, that is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means we have free will." (Discussions on Rene Descartes philosophy)
Free will or having a unique independent personality and sense of self, means the individual jiva-souls can express themselves in their own unique way, offering their own personal contributions without interference even by Krsna.
For genuine loving exchanges to exist between the jiva-souls and Krsna, Krsna allows voluntary diversity, free will and self expression.
For a "two-way" genuine relationship to truly exist, (which is the only way to experience loving exchanges), Kṛṣṇa or Viṣṇu will NEVER interfere with the jiva-souls free will (freedom of self-expression) otherwise "free will" would have no meaning.
LOVE or service is NOT a "one-sided" affiliate of total supremacy or preeminence by Krsna or Visnu.
A cold loveless dictatorship where the jiva-souls are only expected to obey and follow blindly and never personally contribute their own emotions and feelings to the relationship with Krsna.
The fact is genuine loving relations and service are ALWAYS based on voluntary reciprocal exhanges and contributions between TWO and NEVER just one!
A "one-way street" means an impersonal cold loveless domineering dictatorship of being told how to think and act without personal input or contributions.
The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) can NEVER exist independently from Krsna however, they still MUST have their freedom and independence otherwise the jiva-souls are no better than mindless puppets controlled by the strings of the puppet master (Krsna)
The individual jiva-souls MUST always be able to independently express themselves separately from Krsna.
This gives their individual exitence personal responsibility, purpose, creativity, hope, identity, a unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality, and contributions of self-expression that makes the jiva-souls the individual PERSONS they are eternally.
These qualities establish the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) as independent PERSONS whose eternal life has personal meaning to them as the individuals they eternally are, and to Krsna as the voluntary servants and contributors within His Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, and within all of Krsna's eternal endless pastimes.
The jiva-souls independent personality, identity and free will Krsna will always allow because it creates diversity and independent self expression.
This allows the jiva-souls to make their own contributions or offerings, and even allows them to reject Krsna if they choose.
All these conditions must be allowed to exist otherwise loving exchanges with Krsna will NEVER exist and His Kingdom will only house mindless thoughtless drones making His Kingdom an impersonalists useless loveless paradise.
"Free will" must include these options above otherwise the individual jiva-soul is like a brainless puppet who is always controlled by the puppet master which means there really is no free will, just a cleaver totalitarian forceful cold dictatorship.
Krsna always allows a "separate existence" for the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) allowing them to have their own unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality, for the purpose of creating a "two-way" voluntary exchange of individual loving expressions that encourage unique contributions and personal offerings.
In Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, personal voluntary expressions of loving exchanges expressed through free will, are ALWAYS encouraged by Krsna in His relationship with the jiva-souls, this adds flavour, variety and mystery to the relationship between the individual jiva-souls and Krsna.
This clearly means the Kingdom of God is NOT a "one-sided" dominating impersonal domain devoid of free will, that does not allow personal contributions or offerings to God (Krsna), meant to expand, enrich and flavour the relationship.
As said above, LOVE or service is NOT a "one-sided" dictatorial affiliate of total supremacy or preeminence.
The fact is, genuine loving relations and service are ALWAYS based on voluntary reciprocal exhanges and contributions between TWO, not just one!
The individual jiva-souĺs have THEIR choices too, EVEN if that choice means rejecting Krsna!
Free will only has meaning when the jiva-souls can express themselves in their own way in a "two-sided" affair.
In other words, loving reciprocation is ONLY possible on a "two-way street" between two, with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.
The word's "reciprocation" and "love" only has meaning when there are TWO involved, love can never exist with just one!
The individual jiva-souĺs have THEIR choices too, EVEN if that choice means rejecting Krsna!
Free will only has meaning when the jiva-souls can express themselves in a "two-sided" affair, love can NEVER be experienced by just one, this is why impersonalist yogis trying to merge into the impersonal brahmajyoti, are selfish fools.
In other words, loving reciprocation is ONLY possible on a "two-way" street between two, with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.
This also means the individual jiva-souls CAN reject Krsna if they choose, which in a sense proves that "free will" DOES truly exist.
Having "free will" is the eternal constitutional make up of EVERY "marginal living entity (jiva-soul)," and is the foundation for ALL jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna.
Srila Prabhupāda - "Love means a relationship between "two persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)
The Sun-disc and the sun-rays CANNOT exist separately from each other similarly, the jiva-souls cannot exist independently from Krsna however, this also means there is no meaning to Kṛṣṇa without the jiva-souls, just like there is no meaning to the Sun-disc without the sun-rays.
Each "jiva-soul" (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind independent individual with their own unique personality, character and spiritual bodily form independent from all other personalities including Kṛṣṇa's Personality.
No two individual jiva-souls are the same and the individual jiva-souls can NEVER become God (Krsna or Visnu).
Loving devotional service to Krsna is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" voluntary exchange of personal feelings manifesting as loving acts of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions (offerings) of devotional service to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will that does not deny the "free will" of each jiva-soul.
However, those actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering forceful mood from a "so called God" in His Kingdom that does not encourage personal voluntary contributions from the individual jiva-souls in a "two-way" exchange of feelings, is dangerous impersonalism.
Personalism means a "two-way" relationship of voluntary loving exchange of feelings that expands, enriches and multiplies loving affection, sentiment and exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed by only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)
Devotee - "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, human form, God is also human form, "man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri dasa - "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"
Srila Prabhupada - [describing material form first]: "Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible, but you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."
Hari-sauri dasa - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
All the personal voluntary contributions from the individual eternal jiva-souls are forever expanding their unique ability of self expression in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana because love can only expand and grow when the relationship is a two-way exchange of feelings and loving character building emotions.
This allows the jiva-souls to always make their own voluntary offerings to Krsna that forever increase and expand a loving healthy "two-way" exchange between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jīva-souls.
It is VERY important to understand that the individual jiva-souls are "PERSONS" with their own unique individual feelings of self expression existing always in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.
For genuine loving exchanges to truly exist, each jiva-soul MUST have the "free will" to make their own choices and contributions, even if that choice is to leave Krsna if they choose, otherwise there can be no question of genuine love, service or free will (freedom).
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
This quality or attribute of free will is part of the jiva-soul's marginal constitutional nature, as an independent free thinking part and parcels expansion of the Krsna.
Krsna allows this freedom that all jiva-souls have because without free will loving exchanges and reciprocation can NEVER exist.
Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We CAN misuse that." (Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)
Having "free will" is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) eternally and is ALWAYS part and parcel of their perpetual character and personality in the spiritual worlds.
This means the jiva-souls can choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they want at anytime.
The choice to fall down to the material world is the jiva-soul's choice and not Krsna's, He does not interfere with their choices (free will).
Even Krsna's promise of once returning to the spiritual world the jiva-souls will never again fall down, can be rejected by the jiva-souls if they choose.
Free will always allows these choices and if there was no free will, then there is no question of loving exchanges. Being a marginal living entity (jiva-soul) also means being a separated living entity who has their own personality and free will.
The choice to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana IS possible because Krsna allows a "two-way" relationship, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose to do so.
There is no such thing as permanently staying in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana for infinity simply because the individual jiva-souls can leave anytime they like, and Krsna does not interfere with the jiva-souls free will.
If Krsna did interfere with the jiva-soul's independence (their ability to make their own choices) then there would be no such thing as free will, or any possibility of experiencing personal voluntary loving exchanges.
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