It is very important to understand that the eternal individual jiva-souls are separated independent PERSONS, each as a unique spiritual bodily form eternally.
Although the spiritual bodily appearance of the eternal individual jiva-souls can change in the spiritual world, from being a two-armed human looking spiritual bodily form like Krsnas in Goloka Vrindavana, to any bodily form or object on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
In the spiritual world EVERYTHING is alive as individual living life forms or objects.
The eternal individual jiva-souls can voluntarily choose to be anything they like, from a human form to a blade of grass, all according to Krsna's pastimes.
Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there, If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become a flower, voluntarily, and one can change his form in the spiritual world from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
In the spiritual world ALL relationships with Krsna are "equally blissful to each other," just like one may like a carnation flower, while others may choose to like a rose flower, there is always a choice.
"Free will" allows the eternal individual jiva-souls in the spiritual world to always voluntarily express themselves in their own unique special way, making them the contributing PERSON they are eternally.
Everything on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana is alive with unlimited individual life forms, there is no material energy (Maya) in the spiritual world.
This means each eternal individual jiva-soul (marginal living entity) has their own unique personality and identity separate from Krsna's Personality.
Being a "personalist" means the individual jiva-souls must have the "free will" to voluntarily make their own decisions of service in the Vaikuntha planets and on Goloka-Vrindavana, including the choice to leave if they want.
Without "free will, personalism" has absolutely no meaning at all. The eternal individual spiritual bodily form of the jiva-souls are-
sat,
cit,
ananda,
vigraha.
These word's means-
eternity,
knowledge,
bliss,
form.
Fortunately, over 90% of jiva-souls choose to stay in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana even though they can choose to leave if they want.
In fact almost 10% do choose to leave and enter the material creation via the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
The eternal individual jiva-soul's voluntary contributions are eternally expressed fully in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.
In the spiritual worlds they are never forced to surrender to Krsna or do anything they choose not to do.
For loving service to truly each eternal individual jiva-soul must be able to express their free will by making their own choices, their own decisions, even if it means rejecting Krsna, otherwise there can be no question of being able to voluntarily express themselves as an individual and experience loving exchanges and service."
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
This quality of free will is part and parcel of the individual jiva-soul's marginal constitution that allows them to be an independent free thinking expansion of the Krsna.
Therefore, the eternal marginal living entity (individual jiva-souls) also means ALWAYS having "free will" that is included when describing the unique qualities and constitution of each individual jiva-soul.
As said above, Krsna allows this freedom the eternal individual jiva-souls have because without "free will" PERSONAL loving exchanges, unique offerings, and a "two-way" reciprocal relationship with Krsna could never exist.
Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return to the material atmosphere. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that." (Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)
As said above, having free will is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) that is eternally part and parcel of their unique character and personality in the spiritual worlds. Without free will personalism cannot exist.
This means the individual jiva-souls can choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they choose, at anytime, it is nonsense to claim the jiva-souls can never again fall down once in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.
This is because free will always allows the choice to choose, and without the ability to voluntarily choose, there is no question of loving exchanges.
So, the choice to even leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows a "two-way" relationship where one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose.
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will, unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."
Hayagriva dasa - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Talk with Rene Descartes)
1 - Nitya-siddha means eternally liberated while in the spiritual world.
2 - And nitya-baddha means eternally conditioned while in the material world, or inactive in the impersonal brahmajyoti.
There is only one classification of the eternal individual jiva-souls, they can choose to be either eternally "conditioned," or eternally "liberated."
There are NOT two types of eternal individual jiva-souls as some wrongly believe.
Therefore, ALL eternal individual jiva-soul have two sides to their identity and personality.
1 - The eternal individual jiva-souls can either be nitya-baddha, which means eternally conditioned in the material world or impersonal brahmajyoti).
2 - Or nitya-siddha, which means eternally liberated in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
In this way the eternal individual jiva-souls can choose for themselves to be with Krsna, or reject Krsna.
This is because each eternal individual jiva-soul, as part of their spiritual constitutional make-up, has the free will and the right to choose sanctioned by Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence; that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)
As said above, some gurus, sannyasis and Vedic scholars wrongly claim there are two types of jiva-souls-
1 - One jiva-soul stays in the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vṛndāvana and NEVER falls down or have a choice to leave and enter the temporary material world, they are called nitya-siddha.
2 - And the other eternal individual jiva-soul is "active" in the temporary material world, or inactive in the impersonal brahmajyoti, and have NEVER previously been to the spiritual world they claim. They are the nitya-baddhas who, after leaving the "active temporary decomposing material world, of repeated birth and death" can become dormant (inactive) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti. However, the eternal individual jiva-soul CAN eventually enter the spiritual world too, but once there can NEVER fall down again to the material world - so they claim.
Such an impersonal division of the eternal individual jiva-souls into two permanent categories is bogus nonsense.
There is only one category of eternal individual jiva-souls who have two-sides to their individual personality explained above, they can be either nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) or nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned)
The position is eternal and NOT the individual jiva-souls in those positions of eternally liberated (nitya-siddha) and eternally conditioned (nitya-baddha) this is important to understand.
The eternal individual jiva-soul's original natural position is nitya-siddha or eternally liberated in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana which is their natural eternal home they have fallen down from to be nitya-baddha.
Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
As said above, there is only one category of the eternal individual jiva-souls who can be either nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) in the material world and impersonal brahmajyoti, or nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
Srila Prabhupada – "The answer to your question about the marginal energy is that the jiva-soul is always called the marginal energy whether he is in the spiritual world or in the material world." (Letter to Rayarama, Dec 2, 1968)
This point is emphasised here to make it clear that only one kind of eternal jiva-soul exists who have "two sides" to their individual marginal identities activated one way or the other by free will or the choice to be either nitya-siddha or nitya-baddha.
So let's be clear, the eternal individual jiva-souls can be either (by choice) nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) or nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned)
Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka. When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
Srila Prabhupada - "There are two kinds of marginal living entities: nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. The actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul) is NITYA-SIDDHA." (CC lecture, July 13, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can become AGAIN nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha." (New York City Temple Lecture on CC, July 13, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha, to bring them to their original position. It is a difficult task." (London lecture on BG 13-14, July 14, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "There are three kinds of liberated persons. They are called-
1) sadhan siddha,
2) kripa siddha,
3) nitya siddha.
When one is actually on the siddha platform there is no such distinction as to who is sadhan, kripa, or nitya siddha. When one is siddha, there is no distinction what is what.
Just like when the river water glides down to the Atlantic Ocean nobody can distinguish which portion was the Hudson River or some other river." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
Srila Prabhupada - "Nitya-baddhas are conditioned within this material world, beginning from Brahma down to a small ant, insignificant ant, they are all nitya-baddha. Anyone who is in this material world they are nitya baddha." (Lecture BG, July 14, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately Maya covers us. Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport. But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going." (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami June 1972 Melb, Australia)
Srila Prabhupada – ''Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall, your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka (Goloka Vrindavana), does he ever fall down to the material world? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime, so there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 25th April 1970)
Srila Prabhupada – "These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha (the spiritual world), but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of material bodies according to their material activities. There is no new souls ever created, new and old are due to this material body, but the soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is confirms this fact-
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)
All individual jīva-souls are ETERNAL unique persons as a spiritual bodily form, therefore there are no new jiva-souls being created because they have ALWAYS existed meaning they are beginningless and endless.
Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your questions concerning the spirit souls falling into Maya’s influence, it is not that those who have developed a passive relationship with Krsna are more likely to fall into nescient activities. Usually anyone who has developed his relationship with Krsna does not fall down in any circumstance, but because the independence is always there, the soul may fall down from any position or any relationship by misusing his independence."(Letter to Jagadisa dasa 27th Feb 1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "But his relationship with Krsna is never lost, simply forgotten by the influence of maya, it maybe regained or revived again by the process of hearing the Holy Name of Krsna and then the devotee engages himself in the service of the Lord which is his original constitutional position. The relationship of the living entity with Krsna is eternal as both Krsna and the living entity are eternal; the process is one of revival only, nothing new." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 27th Feb 1970)
Krsna (God) is more inclined to help those who first do everything they can to help themselves find a spiritual master to teach them spiritual life.
If one is genuinely honest within one's heart, Krsna sends the Guru (spiritual teacher) who will guide them out of the material creation and return them back home, back to Godhead to be with Krsna or Visnu.
Krsna will help you when He sees you are trying your very hardest to do everything you can to help yourself find God and serve Him, only then will Krsna send you a spiritual teacher.
Srila Prabhupada - "In all the śāstras [scriptures] the guru is described to be as good as God, but the guru never says, ‘I am God.’ The disciple’s duty is to offer respect to the guru just as he offers respect to God, but the guru never thinks, ‘My disciples are offering me the same respect they offer to God; therefore I have become God.’ As soon as he thinks like this, he becomes a dog." (From Prabhupada's Book, "Science of realization")
Genuine loving exchanges are voluntary and reciprocal, it is never a "one-way" street where Krsna does all the actions and thinking for you.
Surrender to Krsna's pure devotees does NOT mean the individual jiva-souls lose their free will, their independence to voluntary contribute to their relationship with Kṛṣṇa, and one's unique individuality, just to be qualified to enter the spiritual world, no, such bogus surrender is nonsense impersonalism!
The eternal marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) have always had their freedom of self expression (free will) therefore, there is no question of the marginal living entity (jiva-souls) ever not having free will.
This is because free will on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana is perpetually part and parcel of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) eternal constitutional make up.
The individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) come from their eternal original home in Goloka-Vrindavana or the Vaikuntha planets and NOT the nonsense "inactive" Impersonal brahmajyoti or brahman where impersonalist yogis go to attempt suicide as Prabhupada teaches.
Originally all eternal individual jiva-souls are nitya-siddha as explained above because they all come from their eternal home in Goloka-Vrindavana, only when they enter the mundane temporary material world and the impersonal brahmajyoti or brahman do they then become nitya-baddha.
Therefore, a nitya-siddha can become a nitya-baddhas and nitya-baddha can AGAIN become nitya-siddha.
No eternal individual jiva-souls originates from the impersonal brahmajyoti as fools believe Prabhupada explains here-
Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Devotee – "When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krsna, we have a perfect relationship with Krsna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already serving Krsna?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Because you desire to fall down. Here it is explained that "Don’t fall down."
Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving Krsna."
Srila Prabhupada – "Because you have got little freedom (free will), it is desire."
Devotee – "In the Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to the material world, if Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, you forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, "My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there." But he insists, Oh, I must go. I must go." "All right, you go at your risk. That’s all. And you suffer. What can be done?" Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist that "I must go and enjoy independently," so God says, "All right, you can go." This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy." (Rathayatra lecture Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)
Question - Is there a place in the spiritual world from where we can never fall down from?"
Answer - No, it is not based on a place where you can never fall down from that keeps you on a Vaikuntha planet or Goloka Vrindavana, it does not work that way because of "free will," which means there is always choice otherwise "personalism" and "free will" have no meaning.
If you were forced to stay anywhere then how can there be voluntary love? Where is free will? The choice to leave the spiritual world or stay must always be with the eternal individual jiva-souls too.
Many who consider themselves advanced devotees of God cannot understand what "free will" and "personalism" really means, they sentimentally claim not even a blade of leaves can fall down from the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka Vrindavana.
It is immature to claim the eternal individual jiva-souls can never again fall down from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana because if they genuinely do have free will, then they can make their own decisions "one way or the other," without any pressure of force from Kṛṣṇa.
And remember there is no material energy or Maya in the spiritual world to tempt the individual jiva-souls, but there is always free will.
Remaining on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana eternally (infinity) is based on what the eternal individual jiva-souls want to do as a unique separate independent beings. It is their choice also to say or go, not just Krsnas as explained above. Love is a two-way street and not a one-way dictatorship.
Otherwise there is no meaning to having free will or personalism.
Personalism and free will go hand in hand. Without free will personalism becomes impersonalism.
If Krsna forced His will on the eternal individual jiva-souls, then He destroys their independence, their quality of voluntary contributions and turns personalism into impersonalism.
Free will or the ability to voluntarily express themselves in their own unique way, allows the eternal individual jiva-souls to voluntarily choose how they want to serve (or not serve), even if means returning back to the temporary material world.
In other words, the individual jiva-souls also have a choice to become a servant of the Lord, or can reject Him if they want in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, only sentimental fools polluted by impersonalism cannot understand this.
The eternal individual jiva-souls never lose their unique ability of free will and independent self expression, where one is personally always aware they can choose how to selflessly serve Krsna in their own unique way as the loving servant of the servant of Krsna.
The fact that one does not again fall from Krsna's personal Kingdom is the eternal individual jiva-soul's responsibility too and not just Krsnas. Remember, love is a "two-way street" of loving exchanges and reciprocation and never a "one-way" loveless dictatorial leadership.
It is the eternal individual jiva-soul's voluntary choice to be with Krsna or ignore Him.
However, fortunately 90% of all eternal individual jiva-souls do NOT fall down from the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka Vrindavana because they choose not to leave and stay serving Krsna or Visnu.
That choice to stay in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, or leave is always with the eternal individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) right as well which proves if free will really exists.
The individual jiva-souls or marginal living entities have 78.125% of Krsna's quantities which is having 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes.
They have their own independence, identity, personality, individuality and the ability to choose.
This means, because of free will, the eternal individual jiva-souls have the ability to agree or not agree with Krsna, otherwise the words "personalism" and "free will" have no meaning.
"Free will" and "personalism" go hand in hand and have no meaning without each other, just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays have no existence without each other.
The individuality and free will the jiva-souls eternally have, must allow them to choose Krsna, or choose to be separate from Krsna.
Remember, as said above, Maya and the material energy do not exist on the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, so Maya is unknown to the jiva-souls in the spiritual worlds and is NEVER the cause of fall down.
However, free will (freedom of self expression) and independence allows the eternal individual jiva-souls to experience their own unique sense of self with the ability to express themselves in the way they choose.
All these qualities are the constitutional make up of each eternal individual jiva-soul in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana.
And if all those abilities are taken away, then the eternal individual jiva-souls lose the ability of "free will and personalism" which allows them to give and accept love, without free will the individual jiva-souls become impersonalist no better than dead stone.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no ''free will, "then you are a stone. The stone has no "free will." Do you want to be stone? Then, you must have "free will!" But don't misuse your ''free will." But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)
No one can force the eternal individual jiva-souls to stay in the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, that choice is always a two-way decision between the Lord and the individual jiva-souls.
For loving exchanges to truly exist with the eternal jiva-soul, they must have the the right to express themselves including choosing to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka Vrindavana at anytime, therefore, returning to the spiritual world is not necessarily permanent Prabhupada explains.
Syamasundara - "But can we predict that the process (returning back home back to Godhead) will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners....?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, otherwise there is no meaning of independence and free will. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right you do whatever you like."
Devotee "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"
Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no question of permanent because he has got independence, he can misuse his independence, he can fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is not to come back. but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again." (Discussions with Syamasundara on Henri Bergson philosophy)
The eternal individual jiva-souls are minor separated expansions of Krsna endowed with individuality that allows them to experience an independent existence if they choose.
This allows the eternal individual jiva-souls to make their own decisions and choices. Therefore, Krsna does not interfere with the eternal individual jiva-soul's free will because it is part and parcel of their eternal spiritual constitution.
Krsna never at any point did not give freedom or free will to the eternal individual marginal living entities (jiva-soul) because they have always had free will in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana without beginning or end.
"Free will" allows the individual jiva-souls to experience individuality, loving reciprocation, independent service, and be responsible for their actions. This however does not means all individual jiva-soul's are independent from Krsna's control of all things, that is not possible.
At all time the eternal individual jiva-souls are dependent on Krsna or His expansions, even as independent individuals because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. Therefore, the eternal individual jiva-souls always remain independent separated living entities, but are always simultaneously depend on Krsna and His expansions in both the spiritual worlds and material worlds also.
The eternal individual jiva-souls are never fully independent because Krsna owns everything.
However, even though the individual jiva-souls are an expansion of Krsna, the individual jiva-souls are not one with Krsna in personality.
Both Krsna and the jiva-souls are independent with their own unique personality.
The eternal individual jiva-souls are not "one" with Krsna but are separate independent thinking living entities with their own sense of self and unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality. They can be "one" in purpose only.
Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the manifestation of Radha and Krsna in the one spiritual Body where both experience each other's love for each other.
Infact, Krsna, Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Balarama, Radharani and unlimited others are all the same personality, all direct expansions of Kṛṣṇa.
The eternal individual jiva-souls are also expansions but are "separated" expansions that means they each have a unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality.
However a small minority of eternal individual jiva-soul's (independent separated jiva-souls who have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities which means they have 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes) can choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavan if they like.
The claim from some devotees and scholars that once reaching the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, the eternal individual jiva-soul will never again fall down to the material world is incorrect and proves these gurus, sannyasis, devotees and scholars do not properly understand what free will or personalism really is no matter how advanced they are claimed to be.
Therefore, to say those who enter the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana will never again fall down is only true for those who choose not to fall down. In other words, if the individual jiva-souls want to leave the spiritual world they certainly can do so at anytime.
Going to the material world is ultimately the eternal individual jiva-soul's choice, and Krsna does not interfere with that choice, even though He has promised there is no return to the material creation once entering the spiritual atmosphere, their is return if the individual jiva-souls choose to return and even reject His promise as well.
The fact, there is return if the individual jiva-souls want to return to the material world Prabhupada tells us.
It is the individual jiva-soul's choice where they want to be and not Kṛṣṇa's choice. Otherwise if Krsna interfered and forced them to stay in the spiritual world, then free will and personalism would be meaningless.
Acyutananda – "But in the Bhagavad Gita it says, "Once coming to the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, the individual jiva-souls will never return to the material world, he can return?"
Srila Prabhupada – "If he likes he can return, that is voluntary."
Guru-kripa – "How is it that one can become envious of Krsna?"
Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence, you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God, God has got full independence, but you have got little independence, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown." (Conversation, Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)
For those who believe no one can ever fall down from Vaikuntha have, they have not understood the variety of living entities on the Vaikuntha planets and on Goloka Vrindavana, of whom the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are just in one category.
It is only a very small minority of eternal individual jiva-souls who choose to leave and not in the category of "Visnu-tattvas" or "Visnu-sakti-tattvas" who never fall down because they ARE Krsna Himself playing another role in His own pastimes.
Many have not understood there is another category of living entities in Vrindavana who never fall down. They are the Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas who are not individual jiva-souls but are Visnu-tattva personalities playing many different role.
Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas are direct expansions of Krsna who have most of His qualities having 93.75% of Krsna's qualities, which means they have 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes.
Of course it is not possible that Krsna's Visnu-tattva expansions can fall down because they are full expansions of Krsna, they are Krsna experiencing Himself in another role, like in a play.
So for them, their choices are exactly the same as Krsna's choice. And for over 90% of the eternal individual jiva-souls, even though they who have the choice to leave the spiritual world, they choose not too.
Devotee - "Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana), there’s no possibility of falling down again?"
Srila Prabhupada - "No, there IS possibility of fall down, but he does not come if he is intelligent. Just like after putting your hand in the fire, you never put it in again IF you are really intelligent. So those who are going back to Godhead, they become intelligent and not fall down again." (CC, Adi-lila 7.108-San Francisco, Feb 18, 1967)
However, there will always be a very small minority of only the jiva-souls who misuse their free will and leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.
Free will is eternal in the spiritual worlds, without having the choice to either forget or remember Krsna, then we would have no independent personality separate from Krsna's Personality and no ability to voluntarily offer love, we would be like dead stone or machines in a factory.
The eternal constitution and original position of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is fully explained by Krsna disguised as a brahmana as follows-
The Brāhmaṇa said - "My dear friend, even though you cannot immediately recognize Me, can't you remember that in the past you had a very intimate friend? Unfortunately, you gave up My company and accepted a position as enjoyer of this material world." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 28 text 53)
Srila Prabhupada - "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force. Therefore Krsna says, yathecchasi tathä kuru. "Now you do whatever you like." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)=
Compiled by Gauragopala Dasa Acbsp (initiated by Srila Prabhupada on July 10th 1972).
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