Saturday, July 27, 2024

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly or rightly, that is free will."

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly or rightly, that is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means we have free will." (Discussions on Rene Descartes philosophy)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly or one can misuse it, that is independence, that is the meaning of free will. If you make it one way only so you cannot fall down, that is not independence (free will), that is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are son of God you have independence (free will), you have acquired the quality of your father, so God does not interfere with your independence (free will). If you persist that “I must enjoy independently," God says, "All right, that is your free will, you can go and enjoy or suffer." This is the position, if you persist, God sanctions. And you can come here to the material world and enjoy or suffer." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice," "Yes," Kṛṣṇa says, "yes, you can go and enjoy or suffer." Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will and Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you go and enjoy or suffer, it is your choice, your free will." (Morning Walk Cheviot Hills May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence has to be there if free will truly exists. If you make it one way only, that is not independence (free will), that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Devotee – "In the Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come here, why are we here? Why doesn’t He save us from thinking like that and coming to the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence (free will), that is force. In Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand, You love me, you love me, you love me, is it love? You love me otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. You love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

Krsna will always sanction free will because without free will, the devotees could never voluntary contribute in their own unique way in their relationship with Kṛṣṇa. 

Free will then actually makes the relationship with Krsna more personal because it allows "two-way" exchanges and loving reciprocation but also allows the devotee to reject Krsna if they choose making them responsible for their good and bad actions.

The reality is there really is no death of the jiva-soul, only the material  body dies while the soul lives on into eternity, always getting unlimited chances in unlimited material bodily vessels to improve themselves and eventually get it right and return home back to Godhead.

Remember, for the eternal individual jiva-souls there is neither birth or death - so there is really no death of who we really are.

Free will and personalism go hand in hand in a two-sided affair of loving co-operation and exchanges with Krsna.

On the other hand, a "one-way" suppressive God only denies individual contributions and offerings, leaving only impersonalism.

The eternal individual jiva-souls only have free will because Krsna allows it to be part of our personality that allows voluntarily loving exchanges and unique contributions in a "two-way" exchange. 

Krsna therefore allows free will meant to expand loving expressions but can also be misused leading to suffering.

Without free will there can only be impersonalism because individual participation and voluntary contributions would never exist.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) can never lose their "free will" in the Vaikuntha planets or Krsna's central planet of Goloka-Vrindavana.

This means the eternal individual jiva-souls in the spiritual world always "voluntarily" express themselves and serve in their own unique way with the personal offerings and contributions they choose to offer to Krsna as Prabhupada explains here.

Srila Prabhupada - “The individual jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

For a "voluntary" relationship with Krsna (God) to exist, the eternal individual jiva-souls must have the free will to independently express themselves otherwise how can "voluntary" service participation be possible?

Nothing can be achieved voluntarily without having free will or the freedom of self expression.

In the spiritual world all relationships with Krsna are equally blissful as each other, just like one may like a carnation flower, while others may choose to like a rose flower.

Free will means there is always a choice otherwise you have no freedom of voluntary service.

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have independence, you have acquired the quality of your father, so God does not interfere with your independence. If you persist that “I must enjoy independently,” God says, “All right, you can go.” This is the position, if you persist, God sanctions. And you can come here and enjoy." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly, that is free will, unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is "free will" then if I act only one sided? That means you have no free will. Because we can act sometimes wrongly or rightly, that means you have free will."

Hayagriva - "A person may know what is right, but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, that is one's expression of free will, if they can misuse their free will, it means they have free will. A thief may know that stealing is wrong, that it is bad, but still does it, That is them expressing their free will. They cannot check their greediness, so in spite of knowing it is the wrong thing to do, they still will be punished, they know because they have seen other thieves being punished and put in prison,  everything is known and can be rightly or wrongly acted upon, but still one chooses to steal. Why? Due to misuse of free will. In fact, unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will. (Discussions on Rene Descartes philosophy)

The eternal individual jiva-souls are independent living entities with their their own unique sense of self that is separate from Krsna's Personality, yet are simultaneously always dependent on Krsna as His parts and parcels just like the sun-rays are always dependent on the sun-disc.

The reason why Krsna gives the individual jiva-souls their independence or "free will," is to allow them to voluntarily choose for themselves how they want to serve Krsna in their own unique personal way. 

This brings variety, mystery, suprise and individual contributions to the relationship, making it a two-sided respectful association between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jiva-souls.

The Kingdom of God is never a one-sided affair where the master always controls the servants, denying the servants their freedom of individual expression and personal contributions. 

Krsna's Kingdom's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are not impersonal like that.

Therefore, the marginal living entities (the individual jiva-souls) can always contribute their own unique offerings without any pressure or force from Krsna, or can even reject Krsna if they choose. 

Free will means one can act rightly or wrongly otherwise there is no free will.

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means we have free will." (Discussions on Rene Descartes philosophy)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence (free will) means one can use it properly or one can misuse it, that is independence, that is the meaning of free will. If you make it one way only so you cannot fall down, that is not independence (free will), that is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - "As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice," "Yes," Kṛṣṇa says, "yes, you can go and enjoy or suffer." Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will and Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you go and enjoy or suffer, it is your choice, your free will." (Morning Walk Cheviot Hills May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Real loving exchanges or service can only exist when free will is expressed and allows the individual jiva-souls to voluntarily participate in unique loving devotional exchanges with Krsna by contributing to the relationship they have with Krsna otherwise the concept of "love" has no meaning.

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also, a two-way relationship. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from them, but never give back, do you think that is very good? No, it is not good, that is not love, it is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you and don't offer you anything, then that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one, there must be another one, there must be two. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, only then is there love." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 C 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how can there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience? Does love mean one? No. Love means two, there must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already the lover, He loves you so much He is always trying to get you back, "Please, My dear boy or girl, My dear friend, My dear servant, please come come back to your real home in the spiritual world." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Surrendering to Krsna in the spiritual world does not mean giving up your intelligence and free will and allowing Krsna to control all your every actions, deeds, words and thoughts, no, the individual jiva-souls in the spiritual world are not programmed "mindless" drones programmed only to obey and never independently contribute to the relationship with Krsna in their own unique way by thinking for themselves.

The individual jiva-souls can never lose their free will on the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, or the individual ability of self expression of offering their own personal contributions to Krsna that are "unique" to each individual jiva-soul.

Only by having free will can voluntary genuine loving exchanges and reciprocation take place, and without free will the jiva-souls are no better than dead stone Prabhupada has warned us.

Furthermore, Krsna never interferes with the free will of the individual jiva-souls because if He did and never allowed them to have their free will and make their own choices in the spiritual world, then that also would mean loving exchanges of voluntarily reciprocation and contributions with Krsna would never exist.

If one is forced to worship God then that is not love, it is tyranny, bullying and impersonalism.

The "impersonal version" of God's spiritual Kingdom where the individual jiva-souls are forced to surrender their free will and instead allow their bogus version of God to take over their individual existence by doing all the thinking and actions for them is dangerous impersonalism.

Having genuine free will on the other hand, allows the individual jiva-souls to be themselves, which is an independent unique contributing person who can always voluntarily choose their own personal offerings to Krsna.

Voluntary service is the bases of real surrender in Goloka Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets which are the permanent eternal home and permanent origin of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls)

The eternal individual jiva-souls on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, are forever voluntarily expanding the expression of their unique individual contributions with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings based on free will, it is never a nonsense one-sided master/slave mindless relationship with Krsna as Prabhupada explains.

Krsna does not control the "surrendered" jiva-souls by force like a puppet master controls every movement of his puppets with the manipulations of strings, denying self expression, individual contributions and voluntary service.

However, Krsna does control His pure devotees but only with loving reciprocal exchanges. The individual jiva-souls allows this two-way voluntary expression because loving exchanges can only exist in a two-sided relationship. Only then can unconditional love for Krsna exist and have meaning.  

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. "You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; no, that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

If the jiva-souls had no free will in the spiritual world then they are no better than dead stone Prabhupada tells us.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "As living spiritual individual jiva-souls we are all originally Kṛṣṇa conscious entities, but due to our association with matter since time immemorial, our consciousness is now polluted by material atmosphere. When the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But when the supreme marginal potency is in contact with the spiritual potency, Harā, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity. This transcendental vibration of chanting-

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare.

This is the sublime method for reviving our Kṛṣṇa consciousness. As living spiritual souls we are all originally Kṛṣṇa conscious entities, but due to our association with matter since time immemorial, our consciousness is now polluted by material atmosphere.

In this polluted concept of live, we are all trying to exploit the resources of material nature, but actually we are becoming more and more entangled in her complexities. This illusion is called māyā, or hard struggle for existence over the stringent laws of material nature. This illusory struggle against the material nature can at once be stopped by revival of our Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Kṛṣṇa consciousness is not an artificial imposition on the mind. This consciousness is the original energy of the living entity. When we hear the transcendental vibration, this consciousness is revived. And the process is recommended by authorities for this age. 

By practical experience also, we can perceive that by chanting this mahā-mantra, or the great chanting for deliverance, one can at once feel transcendental ecstasy from the spiritual stratum.

When one is factually on the plane of spiritual understanding, surpassing the stages of sense, mind and intelligence, one is situated on the transcendental plane. This chanting of-

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare is directly enacted from the spiritual platform, surpassing all lower states of consciousness namely sensual, mental and intellectual.

There is no need of understanding the language of the mantra, nor is there any need of mental speculation nor any intellectual adjustment for chanting this mahā-mantra. It springs automatically from the spiritual platform, and as such, anyone can take part in this transcendental sound vibration, without any previous qualification, and dance in ecstasy. We have seen it practically. Even a child can take part in the chanting, or even a dog can take part in it.

The chanting should be heard, however, from the lips of a pure devotee of the Lord, so that immediate effect can be achieved. As far as possible, chanting from the lips of a nondevotee should be avoided, as much as milk touched by the lips of a serpent causes poisonous effect.

The word Harā is a form of addressing the energy of the Lord. Both Kṛṣṇa and Rāma are forms of addressing directly the Lord, and they mean "the highest pleasure, eternal." Harā is the supreme pleasure potency of the Lord. This potency, when addressed as Hare, helps us in reaching the Supreme Lord.

The material energy, called mayā, is also one of the multipotencies of the Lord, as much as we are also the marginal potency of the Lord.

The "marginal living entities" (individual jiva-souls) are described as a superior energy than matter. When the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation.

But when the supreme marginal potency is in contact with the spiritual potency, Harā, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity.

The three words, namely Harā, Kṛṣṇa and Rāma, are transcendental seeds of the mahā-mantra, and the chanting is a spiritual call for the Lord and His internal energy, Harā, for giving protection to the conditioned soul.

The chanting is exactly like a genuine cry by the child for the mother. Mother Harā helps in achieving the grace of the supreme father, Hari, or Kṛṣṇa, and the Lord reveals Himself to such a sincere devotee. No other means, therefore, of spiritual realization is as effective in this age, as chanting the mahā-mantra. (Purport to Hare Krsna Mantra, the cover of the "Happening Record Album" recorded Dec 1966 New York City, USA)

Devotee – "When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krsna, we have a perfect relationship with Krsna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already serving Krsna?"

Srila Prabhupada – “Because you desire to fall down, here it is explained that "Don’t fall down."

Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving…"

Srila Prabhupada – "Because you have got little freedom (free will) Why one is not coming here and going to the liquor shop? It is desire and the expression of free will.".

Devotee – "In the Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, you forced Krsna to allow you to come, just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, "My dear son, do not do this, do not go there to the material world.” But he insists, "Oh, I must go. I must go." So God says "All right, you go at your risk and suffer, what can be done?" So because you are son of God, you have acquired the quality of your father, so God does not interfere with your independence (free will)." (Lecture Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of "free will". Where is free will if I can act only one sided? That means I have no free will. Because we can act wrongly (sometimes), that means we have free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada on Rene Descartes philosophy).

The eternal individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) never lose their freedom of self expression (free will) over their eternal existence which is beginningless and endless as Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 explains.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change."(BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation."(BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?"(BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

All individual jīva-souls are eternal persons as a spiritual bodily form, therefore there are no new individual jiva-souls being created because they have always existed meaning they are beginningless and endless like Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)

Free will has nothing to do with the material bodily vessel the eternal jiva-soul is covered by in the material world, free will is a symptom of the eternal individual jiva-soul whose REAL home is in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Free will is the constitutional makeup of the pure individual jiva-souls in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, where nothing material exists and the eternal jiva-souls have no external covering (material bodily vessel).

The individual jiva-souls in the spiritual world ARE an eternal spiritual bodily form in their full potential.











Apollo 11 landings from 1969 to 1972 now proved by four different countries as photo below reveals.

It's sad that arrogance and ignorance still prevails in the ISKCON Movement who foolishly deny the Moon landings. 

All because of immature sentimental attachment to Prabhupada's opinions on the Moon landings (due to youthful inexperience during the early days with Prabhupada). Although his spiritual message is always perfect regardless of some contradictions in material Astronomy and Cosmology.

We have to realize back in the 1970s almost all of Prabhupada's disciples were in their early to mid 20s and the technology was very new to everyone especially Prabhupada who fully did not understand Cosmology that he admitted.

Sadly, as we are seeing, Westerners have no interest in many religions, and today the ISKCON Movement is now taken over by Indians, not that there is anything wrong with that.

The point is, Western Countries have lost interest in the Hare Krishna Movement and only Indian devotees are keeping ISKCON afloat in 2024.

Srila Prabhupada told us in 1972 that the Astronauts in their gross material bodies and gross material machines could not enter Chandraloka, the heavenly dimension on the Moon.

Other than that not much else is said however, Prabhupada did say that even if they did go to the Moon, they could not enter the heavenly realm that is there (Chandraloka) because they do not have the right material bodily vessel or craft that allows them entry.

He told us only by pious activity (good Karma) can one gain entrance into the heavenly realm and not by any mundane mechanical endeavour.

So, all those countries, India, China, Russia, Unites States, Japan, European Union now all going to the Moon, are all denied entry into Chandraloka because they do not have the right qualifications of material body, vehical or piety to enter, so they just see a barron Moon.

ISKCON devotees today in 2024 have got to grow up and learn proper knowledge on this subject because in two years many countries are going back there to the Moon they see. 

Already 6 different nations are sending rockets to the Moon constantly.

Srila Prabhupada's spiritual teachings are excellent but even he told us to investigate the Moon landings because even though he knew they could not enter Chandraloka (the heavenly realm on the Moon) he said they must be going somewhere. 

Yes, the material mundane scientists rockets must be landing on the Moon we can see in the Sky. 

We cannot detect Chandraloka (the heavenly realm on the Moon) because we must have the right accumulation of pious activity, and the subtle material bodily vessel that gives us the the right to enter the heavenly realm of Chandraloka.

No-one nowadays need to prove they went to the Moon, it has already been clearly proven.

ISKCON devotees today in 2024 have got to grow up and learn proper knowledge on this subject because in two years many countries are going back there to the Moon they see. 

Already 6 different nations are sending rockets to the Moon constantly.

Srila Prabhupada's spiritual teachings are excellent but even he told us to investigate the Moon landings because even though he knew they could not enter Chandraloka (the heavenly realm on the Moon) he said they must be going somewhere. 

Yes, the material mundane scientists rockets must be landing on the Moon we can see in the Sky. 

We cannot detect Chandraloka (the heavenly realm on the Moon) because we must have the right accumulation of pious activity, and the "subtle" material bodily vessel that gives us the the only right to enter the heavenly realm of Chandraloka.

Sadly today in 2024, devotees arrogance, sentimentality and foolish ignorance just keeps ISKCON labelled as a crazy conspiracy theorists cult on the fringes of society.

Srila Prabhupada told us in 1972 that the Astronauts in their gross material bodies and gross material machines could not enter Chandraloka, the heavenly dimension on the Moon.

Other than that not much else is said however, Prabhupada did say that even if they did go to the Moon, they could not enter the heavenly realm that is there (Chandraloka) because they do not have the right material bodily vessel or craft that allows them entry.

He told us only by pious activity (good Karma) can one gain entrance into the heavenly realm and not by any mundane mechanical endeavour.

So, all those countries, India, China, Russia, Unites States, Japan, European Union now all going to the Moon, are all denied entry into Chandraloka because they do not have the right qualifications of material body, vehical or piety to enter, so they just see a barron Moon.

Entering the heavenly planets is not spiritual, it is a higher material experience.

Chandraloka heavenly atmosphere on the Moon, and the heavenly realm on the Sun (Surya) are not spiritual abodes, they are higher material realms or dimensions in the material world.

Sadly, there are still too many naive ignorant so called devotees, sannyasis and gurus out there who are arrogent sentimentalist, and have no brain to understand the true facts that the Moon landings actually happened mentioned above. Just block those idiots and their crazy comments on Facebook and Google, they do not represent the REAL movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu or ISKCON.





Saturday, July 20, 2024

There is a fine line between the "all-one" material energy in the material world that is the "oneness" and "all pervasive material energy, and the eternal "individual" living life force (eternal individual jiva-souls) in the spiritual world.

There is a fine line between the "all-one" material energy in the material world that is the "oneness" and "all pervasive material energy, and the eternal "individual" living life force (eternal individual jiva-souls) in the spiritual world.

Life is NOT an all-pervading merged consciousness of "oneness" in regards to the marginal living entities (jiva-souls). 

No, life as the individual form of the jiva-souls is ALWAYS "individual personalities" eternally. 

In other words, an individual jiva-soul can NEVER merge with another jiva-soul, or collective of jiva-souls, and become "one consciousness," they can only become one in purpose (a collective of individual jiva-souls) serving Krsna. 

Because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, only He is similtaneously one a different from His creation of both the spiritual and material worlds. 

In other words, Krsna is all-pervading and found everwhere including even in the atom but is also an eternal person as spiritual bodily form. 

Only the "all-pervasive dead material energy," and NOT the eternal individual living spiritual energy (anti-matter), is "all-one," appearing as that "all-pervasive impersonal dead matter" in the material world. 

This impersonal dead material energy covers the eternal living individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) temporarily in the material world, then breaks down and merges back into the "oneness" of material energy, just like a river flows to the sea and merges into the "oneness" of the ocean.

The individual eternal jiva-soul (anti-matter) is not affected by the constant changing of the external temporary material bodily vessels (matter) the individual jiva-souls are in as passengers.

Therefore material energy (matter) is "all-one and all-pervasive" and NOT the spiritual energy which is living anti-matter individual living entities eternally.

Only the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) can be covered by temporary matter (a material bodily vessel) in the material world and not Kṛṣṇa and His direct expansions.

Many great yogis, scholars, mystics, devotees and Vaisnavas misunderstand what "everything being all-one" really means. 

This is difficult to understand because ultimately Krsna is both an individual Person, and similtaneously all-pervasive and all-one with both His spiritual and material creations. 

But this needs to be understood correctly. 

Everything is part and parcel of Krsna who also resides both as "all-one" and as "an individual Person" within every material atom in the material world. Everywhere Krsna exists as the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

Many do not properly understand the difference between dead decaying matter (lifeless all pervasive material energy) and anti-matter (eternal living individual spiritual life forms that make up the entire spiritual world)

Krsna and His direct Visnu-tattva expansions (also God) are never covered by the temporary decaying material energy that does not exist in the spiritual world. 

The eternal individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) in the material world are covered by a temporary material bodily vessel that eventually decays and breaks down and merges back into the "oneness" of dead material energy.

Living spiritual energy IS the unlimited individual eternal spiritual bodily personalities that make up the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

Personalised living spiritual energy begins with Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, and His Visnu-tattva expansion, Lord Siva and the jiva-souls expansions also all have eternal bodily individual spiritual forms.

Living spiritual energy is NOT "all-one" like dead matter (material energy) is. 

The spiritual energy is an eternal collective of individual spiritual persons perpetually, always as individual spiritual bodily forms. 

In this way the spiritual energy IS a collective of eternal individual indestructible bodily personalities. 

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also human form, "man is made after the shape of God." So Kṛṣṇa is also like human form, two hands, two legs." The human form is also the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Krsna's spiritual Body and the eternal spiritual bodily forms of His individual jiva-soul expansions, are NOT "all-one" like the material energy is, they are endowed with eternal individuality and form.  

For example, when one's material bodily vessel they are in as a passenger eventually decomposes and ceases to work, the material bodily vessel breaks down and those elements merge back into the "oneness" of dead material energy. 

While the eternal living individual jiva-soul covered by that temporary decaying material bodily vessel- 

1 - Moves on to newer yet temporary material bodily vessel, 

2 - Merge as an individual dormant (inactive) spark within the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

3 - Or again enters the eternal spirtual realm of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Being an "inactive" (dormant) so-called spiritual spark in the Brahmajyoti, is an already fallen unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential are a spiritual bodily PERSON fully active like Krsna in the spiritual world serving Him, which is the jiva-soul's natural eternal home.

Krsna's effulgence is known as the dormant (impersonal) Brahmajyoti made up of a collective of "inactive"(dormant) individual jiva-souls appearing there as spiritual sparks in their "fallen conditional state."

Entering that "fallen condition" as a spiritual spark is the unnatural impersonal condition of the individual jiva-soul, who in their full spiritual potential IS an eternal PERSON as a spiritual bodily form made of- 

sat, cit, ananda, vigraha.

Which means, 

eternity, knowledge, bliss, individual bodily spiritual form.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a eternal "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body.

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14 Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you state that the eternal individual spirit soul has form."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, otherwise, how is the material body grown to accommodate the spirit soul? Just like a shirt has no form, but when it's put on the body, it takes the shapes of a particular body." 

Devotee - So does that mean the spirit is the shape of a bodily form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, you have got body, a shape (form), very minute shape that we cannot see, we cannot measure. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, "anumeyam," what is that word used? Aprameyam, you cannot measure but it has a form. What is the length and breadth of that form? That is not in your power to understand, but it is NOT material, the soul is an individual spiritual form eternally. If you have the spiritual power then you can measure it. And that measurement is also given in the śāstra. What is that? One ten-thousandth part of the tip of the hair. Hair is a very small point. And divide it into ten thousand parts. That one part is the measure, magnitude of the soul.

keśāgra-śata-bhāgasya

śatadhā kalpitasya ca

jīva-bhāgaḥ sa vijñeyaḥ

sa cānantyāya kalpate 

(CC Madhya 19.140)

Everything is there, but you have no eyes to see, how to see one ten-thousandth portion of the top of the hair? You cannot see even the original top of the hair. We must have the proper eyes." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 16 text 24 Hawaii, Jan 20, 1974)

Hayagrīva dasa - "Aquinas believed that God is the only single essence that consists of pure form, he felt that matter is only a potential and, in order to be real, must assume a certain shape or form- 

Aquinas comment - "Being in the material universe we have to acquire an individual form in order to actualize ourselves. When matter comes together and appears as form, that form then gives an object made of matter its individuality and personality. In other words, when matter is as an individual form, it gives an object its individuality and personality."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, but matter has no form because it has no life. The spirit soul has got form because it is eternal life (anti-matter). Although, because matter in the material world is covering the individual spiritual form of the spirit soul when they come to the material world, the matter (material energy) only appears to have form and be alive. That appearance that matter has life is only due to the presence of the individual spirit soul. Just like the original cloth has no form, but when the tailor cuts the cloth according to the body of the person, then the shirt and coat takes a form. Matter itself has no form, when you take clay, it has no form, but if you make it like a doll, like a man or woman, then it has a form. So lifeless form and formlessness is only in the material energy, but in the spiritual world everything has got form as individual life. The spirit soul is form, God has got eternal form, He is all-pervasive but similtaneously has eternal spiritual form, that is Krsna, this is the truth."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Aquinas believed that only God and the angels have form that is not material. There is no difference between God's form and His spiritual self."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, as in the material world, the external material form of man or beast or any material bodily form in all the species, is simply vessels that house the eternal spirtual soul. Such material vessels are the outward, external coverings made of matter, but within that matter or material bodily vessel, is life, the eternal individual soul. The soul has form and God has form, that is real form. Lifless material form is simply shirting and coating over the spiritual body (life)." (Discussion on Thomas Aquinas philosophy)

Hayagrīva dasa - "He considered that matter was necessary to give the soul form."

Srila Prabhupāda - "No, the soul has got an original form."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Original form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Which is the form of the spiritual body?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "The original form of the individual spirit soul is like Krsna's Body which is the form of the spirit."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Of the spirit?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, and the form of the outer material body takes place on account of the individual form of the spirit soul. Here is very nice example, the cloth has no form, but when it is cut according to the form of the gentleman, it takes a form. Similarly, dead matter has no form but when it is coated on the spiritual individual form of the soul, it takes the shape of the spiritual form. This is very easy to understand." (Philosophy Discussion on Thomas Aquinas beliefs)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri dasa – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – [describing material form first]: "Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the eternal individual soul's form."

Hari-sauri dasa - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished because the individual jiva-souls are indestructible.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 Text 12)

Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)

There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed which is eternity as explained above in Bhagavad Gita As It Is. 

The original eternal form of the marginal living entity (jiva-soul) in their eternal home of the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, is originally a "two-arm form" like Krsna in Goloka-Vrindavana, or later on due to choice (free will), the four armed form on the Vaikuntha planets.

Krsna is always the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes and not a blade of grass can move unless sanctioned by Him.

As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a spiritual spark is the unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential, IS an active PERSON as a spiritual bodily form happily voluntarily engaged in the service of Krsna or Visnu.

Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal Brahmajyoti is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness, it is already a fallen condition therefore, those who are in the brahman effulgence, they are also in a fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. We do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated, the living entities first falling down to this material world are NOT from the impersonal brahman. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition and that non-fallen condition is Krsna cconsciousness. So long one can maintain pure Krsna consciousness he is NOT fallen down. As soon as he becomes out of Krsna consciousness immediately he is fallen down. Those who are thinking that they are liberated by being situated in brahman effulgence are described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam as impurely intelligent. So, we do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated. In other words, they are actually not liberated, and because they are not actually liberated they again come down to the material world." (Letter to  Revatinandana dasa, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a bodiless "spiritual spark" is the unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential IS a PERSON as a spiritual bodily form originally like Krsna's form. Therefore, the full potential and original feature of all eternal marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls), is a two-arm form like Krsna's Body.

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul's form is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "The individual spirit soul has eternal form but with our material eyes we foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "Man is made after the shape of God, so God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, May 20, 1975)

Voluntary actions of choice are only possible if the individual jiva-souls have free will. 

Without free will nothing voluntary could be achieced by the individual jiva-souls because free will means being able to make your own choices, which includes accepting or rejecting Krsna or Visnu.

Srila. Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world service there to Krsna is always voluntary. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything because it is voluntary." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, May 20, 1975)

The original eternal individual form of the jiva-souls are NOT some impersonal formless spark in the Brahmajyoti or Brahman as the impersonalists and mayavadis believe, nor do the individual jiva-souls originate from the Body of Maha-Visnu. 

Srila Prabhupada - "When fall down takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition." (Letter to, Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)


Srila Prabhupāda - "We are only a (dormant bodiless) spark (while fallen in the impersonal Brahmajyoti). But because we are spirit, we cannot remain in that fallen impersonal stage. The jiva-soul wants to enjoy, so for as long as one has forgotten (their spiritual bodily origin while outside of the spiritual atmosphere), one develops a body which is called matter."


Śyāmasundara dasa - "Does the individual jiva-soul develop a spiritual body?"


Srila Prabhupāda - "No, the soul is already a spiritual bodily form, an eternal spiritual identity already. But as we are presently developing different material bodies in the material world, but we can revive our spiritual body at anytime."


Revatīnandana dasa - "You very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the individual jiva-soul goes into the brahmajyoti and becomes dormant (inactive), they are considered still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen individual jiva-souls also? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and if I go to the brahmajyoti am I still fallen?"


Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."


Revatīnandana dasa- "That means all jīva-souls there are also fallen souls."


Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes." (Aug 17, 1971, London UK).


Are you trying to end it all? You are not alone. 

The eternal individual jiva-souls always have the free will to express themselves in so many ways, they can remain in the spiritual world (Goloka Vrindavana) serving Krsna (but as His dear friend not seeing Krsna as God but as a very special friend)

Or Visnu, who they worship as God on the unlimited number of Vaikuntha planets.

The eternal individual jiva-souls can also enter the temporary material world if they choose where they can forget about Krsna and Viṣṇu and become covered by a material bodily vessel (found in 8 million 400 thousand species of material life)

We must understand the individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless and have always existed over all infinity and will NEVER cease to exist.

Due to experiencing the constant suffering of repeated birth in the material world and continuously changing material bodily vessels due to them wearing out and becoming no longer suitable to occupy, the frustrated individual jiva-souls may try to end their eternal existence and attempt to escape the pain and suffering of both the breaking down of the material bodily vessel they are in, and the inability of having permanent loving relations with other jiva-souls because of the cycle of birth and death, natural to the eternal individual jiva-souls in their full potential and position in the spiritual world. 

In this condition, the eternal jiva-souls suffering in the material world due to a troublesome material body, and having no lasting love experiences with other embodied jiva-souls, also in many cases, have no interest in God or cares about a so called God.

In this sad ignorant condition the individual jiva-souls just want to end it all and cease to exist and stop the pain of a loveless impersonal existence by no longer existing as an "individual living person."

This is when, unknown to the material conditioned individual jiva-soul, they attemp to end their frustrating existence of thoughts and actions by becoming dormant (inactive) in the impersonal brahmajyoti which is a collective of dormant "individual" jiva-souls artifically known there in the impersonal brahmajyoti as "inactive" spiritual sparks ( like being almost dead).

Life is NEVER an "all-one" "all-pervasive" life-force or a combined consciousness merged as one, no, life is a individual "collective of spiritual persons who remains individuals whether they are "active" in the spiritual and material worlds, or "inactive" (dormant) in the impersonal brahmajyoti and the material atom.

The eternal jiva-souls merg as an individual within a collective of other dormant individual jiva-souls in the impersonal brahmajyoti, this is very, very difficult to achieve. 

It is trying to cease your individual existence by committing spiritual suicide by enter what is like a dreamless dream state of no thoughts, nothing. 

Such an impersonal non-existence is almost impossible to achieve for the individual jiva-souls who never lose their separate individual existence no matter where they are.

This impersonal escape for the individual jiva-souls is very, very, very hard to achieve, in most cases the individual conditioned jiva-souls in the material world just forget everything and again take another birth within the 8 million 400 thousand species of material life, forgetting their previous attempt in their previous material bodily vessel to escape existence and end it all.

So, even if the fallen individual jiva-souls do find a way to cease all their activities, thoughts and dreams, by isolating themselves like the mystic and impersonalist yogi do in an attempt to achieve their impersonal goal of complete inactivity, or "consciously" becoming "one" with the impersonal brahmajyoti. 

Even though technically, the eternal individual jiva-souls never really lose their indentity and individual personality because "life" is always a collective of "individual spiritual personalities" in entire the Spiritual Sky, within the spiritual and material worlds, including the dormant impersonal brahmajyoti.

This means the eternal individual jiva-souls never merge into a "all-one" existence like rivers merge into the sea.

The spiritual world is eternally a "collective" of "individual" jiva-souls, each with their own independent identity and personality.

The impersonal brahmajyoti is made up of a "collective of eternal individual jiva-souls," and is NOT where the jiva-soul loses their individuality, personality and identity and merges into a conscious oneness like air in a bottle merges as one with the air outside the bottle, no, the impersonal brahmajyoti is not that, it is a collective of individual jiva-souls.

So, even if the individual jiva-souls enters a dormant inactive dreamless state known as the impersonal brahmajyoti, among other names in different cultures, and stays there for an almost eternity, eventually, even if it takes a trillion life times of Brahma (which is 311 trillion 40 billion human years long), the eternal individual jiva-souls ALWAYS eventually falls out of the impersonal brahmajyoti and again takes birth in the material world because the nature of the indidual jiva-souls is to be always active and never inactive.

We must understand we are beginningless and endless and have always existed over all infinity.

The individual jiva-souls are like the sun-rays, and Krsna is like the Sun-disc.=*=







The true story of Prahlad and Raman's letter to General Secretary of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, April 25th 1986 that sparked one of ISKCON's biggest preaching endeavours in its short history.

The true story of Prahlad and Raman's letter to General Secretary of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, April 25th 1986 that sparked one of ISKCON's biggest preaching endeavours in its short history.



Prahlad (12 years old) and Raman's (11 years old) letter to General Secretary of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev.

Prahlad and Raman - "For a long time now we have wanted to visit your country, but we are a little bit scared about the things we have heard about Russia. We have heard some terrible things about what is happening there to the parents of Hare Krishna children. They must be strong devotees of Krishna to be punished just because they are following a religion that they feel is right, and put into labour camps and hospitals, and still be keeping their beliefs. We don't think you would like it if you were punished for a belief you have." (Extract from Gurukula school boy's Prahlad and Raman's letter to General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev April 25th 1986)

Back in April 1983, the Krishna children met Princess Diana and Prince Charles in the Brisbane Mall, handing them a bouquet of flowers, a garland and some children's books about Krishna, for Prince William.

The photo of one young Gurukula boy, Prahlad, handing Princess Diana the books, appeared in newspapers here in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth and Hobart, including the front page of the London Times in the UK.

That photograph was on my wall, I often glanced at it thinking that when these kids can express themselves the media will experience something new, original and appealing.

In 1986, the media had been greatly interested in the Hare Krishna Movement, however, we needed a new angle to maintain there interest, obviously the answer was with the Krishna kids who fascinated the public with their innocence and simplicity and their knowledge of Krishna.

Preparations were enthusiastically underway to celebrate the 500th Anniversary of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

Through the media we wanted to inform everyone who Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is. One morning, while reading the Brisbane Telegraph newspaper, our desire was becoming a reality.

We had found a section called "On This Day," describing significant world events.

To devotees, the 26th of March 1986 was a great world event, being Lord Caitanya's appearance anniversary. Our idea was to contact all television and newspaper networks informing them of this date.

Coloured paintings of Lord Caitanya and Nityananda, the six Goswamis, and His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada were pasted on a large A-5 sheet of paper and sent to "The Today Show," "Good Morning Australia," and major Australian newspapers.

We included a short history of ISKCON (The International Society for Krishna Consciousness)

Some journalists rang to question our dates as the Encyclopedia Britannica said the 500th Anniversary was in 1985. The answer was simple; some establish age from birth, while others from conception.

Two days before the Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu anniversary, we arranged with the Brisbane City Council for children from the Gurukula to perform in the City Square on the 26th of March.

At first the Council said no, because we were Hare Krishna devotees, however, they changed their minds after they were told that children wanted to also celebrate "The International Year Of Peace" that was in the same year as Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s 500th anniversary.

On Lord Caitanya's appearance day, we watched "The Today Show" run a two minute segment on Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. 

Later that morning, we found a "On This Day" article in the "Daily Mirror and the Age Newspapers.

We then drove to Brisbane so the children could perform at King George Square in the City Centre. Plays about Lord Caitanya's pastimes were performed and bhajans (songs) sung to a large lunch-time crowd. 

The Courier Mail and Daily Sun Newspapers did favourable articles, while the 0-10 Television network did a three minute segment.

All this auspicious interest in the Hare Krishna Movement laid the groundwork for what was to come that would go nationwide.

The eldest of the children at this time was twelve-year-old Prahlad, who had been involved in many articles. In fact, in June 1980, he was the six-year-old boy singing in the river on the "Sixty Minutes" program. 

Many people remembered the television exposure and many newspaper articles, remarking how appealing the boys and girls were while chanting Hare Krishna in public.

Now, six years later Prahlad and his school friends were leading the other childrean invasion of lounge-rooms throughout the Nation - via the television set.

Prahlad had reached the age where he could impress the media with his Hare Krishna life-style. It was easy to impress others through the convictions of a child but being a devotee made him extra special.

This was illustrated in an interview with Chris Houghton from 'The Australian Newspaper’' The flagship newspaper of Rupert Murdoch's News Limited in Australia.

The feature wasn't printed, however, her husband was so enthused with her convictions from Prahlad's association, he stayed at the farm for one week.

The day after Lord Caitanya's appearance anniversary, the children performed again at Cavill Avenue in Surfers Paradise.

This time they erected a four and a half metre statue of Lord Caitanya and danced around it. The "Gold Coast Bulletin" published an article.

While there, many onlookers questioned us about India's history. In devotee circles, Gandhi was not considered a real Mahatma, he was considered a Prabhupāda himself was once a follower of Gandhi until he met his Spiritual Master, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada.

From that meeting he realised that human society should learn how to become free from the influences of the material energy and not exploit it or try to be comfortable in it.

Freeing India from British rule was a material consideration; mankind needed freedom on the spiritual level, that is real freedom. However, for preaching, especially in India, devotees would glorify Gandhi because he was known as the father on modern India.

The fact is, it was Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu who organised India's first civil disobedience movement for freedom of religion in the 16th Century.

The following article about His work in this world was read to the crowd by an Indian Gentleman Dr. Suresh, a local Doctor and congregational member from Mullumbimby NSW who spent the day with us.

Although, many devotees did not like his comparison between Lord Caitanya and Gandhi. The fact is Prabhupada wrote to Gandhi warning him to give up Politics as it could endanger his life. Gandhi ignored Prabhupada's warning.

As we know, eventually Gandhi was assassinated on 30th January 1948 by a Hindu just after India was divided into India and the two Pakistan's. This young Hindu assasssin believed Gandhi was giving too many concessions away to the Muslim leadership in an attempt to keep India as one nation.

Many so called Hindus of India never agreed with Gandhi as they also wanted their own Hindu Nation because many of those who followed Islam were very forceful and violent forcing their beliefs on the Indian sub-continent.

These Islamic invaders from Saudi Arabia (Arabs) and Iran (Persia) in the 9th Century AD forcefully converted millions of the Indus valley civilization (those who worship Visnu and Krishna and their many demigods). The correct name of India's Vedic tradition is "Sanatam Dharma"

During the early Islamic invasions, Muslims would go house to house holding in one hand the Quran, and in the other hand a sword saying ''choose one''

And often those who chose to remain a follower of Vedic culture were beaten or killed.

Islam was never part of the original Vedic culture of the Indian sub continent called Bharat-varsa, it was a violent invading barbaric force only interested in converting Indians to Islam.

The word "Hindu" is not a Vedic word either, it originated outside of India from both the invading Armies of Alexander the great in 326 BC and Islam in the 9th Century AD who both mispronounced the worshippers of Visnu homeland in the Indus valley in what is now Pakistan, pronouncing Indus as Hindu.

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was born on Dol Purnima 500 years ago on February 18 1486. (from the Calcutta Telegraph Daily Newspaper)

This article reveals the mood of the time of 1986 and how the majority in India greatly respected Gandhi, even though devotees in ISKCON had a more informed view thanks to Srila Prabhupada.

From the Calcutta Telegraph Daily Newspaper-

"Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was the nation's first Mahatma." Born 500 years ago, the day was Thursday February 18, 1486 AD.

As the moon looked down on the auspicious occasion of Dol Purnima, there was born to Jagannath Mishra of Nabadwip his eighth son.

Jagannath's wife, Sachi devi, had carried the baby for fourteen months, so the folklore goes. And, when he finally arrived, she named him Nemai in deference to the belief that the God of Death (Yamaraj) would not dare come near someone who got his name from that bitterest of leaves - neem.

Nemai's grandfather, Nilamber Chakraborty, was a renowned astrologer; he proclaimed that the infant, who had the signs of Narayana on his hands and feet, would one day conquer the world.

Immediately, Nemai was given another name: Bishwambhar which means ''the supreme spirit."

Jagannath Mishra had come to Nabadwip from his native Sri hatta for higher studies, but stayed on. But he did not make much scholastic progress and survived working as a priest in the village.

Not much is known about his other seven sons; only that the eldest, Bishwaroop, left home early in his youth to seek sainthood, the others must have all died early.

So when Nemai was born, Sachi devi's joy knew no bounds. But, Jagannath was sceptical; the loss of his other sons had made him fatalistic. He knew that even Nemai would not be with his family for long.

He belonged to the wider world outside. Bengal, in the early 16th Century, was a mess of religious obscurantism.

The Muslim rulers were not famous for their tolerance, nor did their casts so called Hindu subjects display much generosity of spirit.

Buddhism was buried deep, the fanaticism of Islam was overbearing and the commercialisation of the Vedic culture had driven the common man to desperation and fear. 

There was a general spate of newfound Gods and Goddesses; (demigod worship) it was another story that they served only for material gain and fill the coffers of the greedy Brahmin priests rather than seek out true spiritual standards.

Society was regimented; the compartments created far too many problems for the people to be at peace with themselves.

Nemai was born in a Bengal searching for the love of His life. As he grew up, he proved himself to be as good a theologian and pundit as anyone those days.

Before he had even crossed his teens, the entire village looked up to him as one learned in the Scriptures and art of exposition. He was tall and fair; with long flowing hair curling behind his shoulders, and bright, sharp eyes. There was no doubt that here was a man among men.

Earlier, when he was barely a boy, his father passed away. Nemai went to Gaya for the "pindadan'' ceremony. On his return and after this first encounter with Death, he was a changed man. There was a new sobriety in him; the first signs of sannyas were obvious.

Later, when he was around eighteen years of age, Nemai married Ballabhacarya's daughter, Lakshmipriya.

Soon, as was the tradition in those days, Nemai was away in East Bengal (now Bangladesh) on a tour to boost his fame in learning and knowledge of the Scriptures. While he was away on his "Digvijay", Lakshmipriya died of snake bite. A contemporary couplet goes that the "venom of Prabhu's absence is what really killed her". It was this second encounter with death that truly transformed him.

Nemai remarried when he was twenty-one years old. This time, the bride was Sanatan Bipra's beautiful daughter, Bishupriya. Nemai soon became drawn to the beauty of "Vaishnava dharma" and, along with some friends, could be seen at the village squares singing and chanting "Hare Krishna, Hare Rama" absorbed in the Divine couple Radharani and Krsna.

The home of Sribas Pandit was the group's meeting place; the strains of choral songs filled the air with new tranquillity. It was at this time that Nemai met Prabhu Nityananda at Nandan Acaryas residence.

It was as if Balarama had met Sri Krishna; when Nityananda, elder by twelve years, embraced Nemai, those near them knew that here was a fusion of two great souls who would change the world and soon would be known in every City, Town and Village all over the world.

Before his meeting with Nityananda, Nemai had done something that was to prove his revolutionary zeal and love for freedom. Bengal was at that time ruled by Hussein Shah and Nabadwip by Moulana Sirajuddin, who was better known as Chand Kaji.

In keeping with the times, Kaji issued a decree banning choral songs, kirtans and the utterance of "Hare Krishna, Hare Rama.

The followers of "Vaisnava dharma" were trying to forge a way to overcome the religious morbidity and bankruptcy of the times. But their leader, Advaita Acharya of Nabadwip, knew that though their thoughts were noble, their means were meagre.

Their voices were either banned or drowned by the stupid clamour of Gods, Goddesses and their creators. If ever a Messiah was needed, it was now.

Every demand throws up a leader; almost as if he was destined to do this, Nemai rallied the saner elements of his village and defied the Kaji.

The group of devotees resolved it would march to the Kaji's palace, singing and dancing all the way. They would also carry cymbals, and for those who did not have a pair, "even utensils would do".

Nemai also directed that they would not budge under force, not until they were dead, at least.

It was a beautiful scene; the anger, the music, the religious conviction in that great march to the Kaji's residence provides the first true signs of Nemai as a leader of men.

The Kaji's garden was badly mauled; even as they had "Hare Krishna" on their lips, Nemai's followers did not forget to teach the Muslim dictator a lesson he would not forget for long years to come.

The torches in their hands burnt brightly as the Kaji came out and met the deputation. Then, as the Kaji dropped his head and acquiesced, the crowd rejoiced in its victory. This was one of the first successful civil disobedience movements in the country.

Exactly a year after he met Nityananda, Nemai left home to take his Sankirtan religion of love to all the people. For the one year in between he kept himself indoors. Obviously, breaking the bonds of family life was not easy even for a person like Nemai.

While initiating him into sannyas Keshab Bharati gave him the epithet "Sri Krishna Caitanya"; the idea was to convey the fusion of Krishna and Radharani's love for each other in the one body of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

He was to stay a sannyasi for the next twenty-three years, five months and two days till his passing in Puri from this world at age 48 in 1534, AD.

Since then the legend has grown all over the world especially since the mid 1960s when His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada introduced Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu to the western world.

There was never any conscious effort on the part of Mahaprabhu Caitanya to project himself as a religious leader; indeed, throughout his travels covering almost the entire land, he preferred to go it alone. Some of his followers felt hurt by this.

When a leader leaves his men behind, the feeling is one of despair, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu's greatness lies in the fact that he never let his followers despair. 

He successfully impressed upon them the need for the leader to stay away as much as possible from his men; only the alienation of the self can produce true doctrine. The doctrine went thus. 

Devotion and salvation are the essence of life. Those who love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna become something of the Great personality and devotee themselves.

Only by loving the Krishna can you love his creations.

The world then is not one of ambitions and hatred, of material and sorrow, but of joy and love in the service of Lord Krishna.

There is no need for temples and mosques, of churches and synagogues. Love this life by singing the holy names of the Lord Krishna, therein lies salvation.

The Nemai of earlier years was different from the new Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Nemai was a debutante, sprightly, proud in his knowledge of existence.

Caitanya on the other hand was enraptured in the loving affection and exchanges of Radha and Krishna, whom He was the combination of, and no less proud of his existence but much nearer to his devotees.

The effort to be one in purpose is the final striving - to always be the servant of the servant of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In other words, the best way to please God is by pleasing His bonafide devotees.

When a man considers this world as a bubble, an illusion, then Yamaraj the demigod of Death has no power over him.

This is not a negation of the here and now, but an understanding that everything around us is temporary and in a state of constant decay.

So sing the name of Lord Krishna that is the only route to salvation in this Kali-yuga.

Chroniclers say that during the one year that Nemai stayed indoors before taking up sannyas, he went through what can now only be termed as fits.

One moment laughing, the other weeping, and yet sometime later, rolling on the floor or meditating as He was experiencing the combined love that Radha and Krishna have for each other.

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is considered by his followers to be the Golden avatar, the combination of Radha and Krishna appearing in the Kali-yuga.

The Bhagavad-gita As It Is, while speaking of the avatars through the Satya, Treta, Dwapara and Kali-yugas, mentions that "He who will arrive in Kali-yuga will have the name of Krishna on his lips. He will be golden and will be followed everywhere by the best among men."

Even the Puranas teach that the only route to salvation during Kali-yuga is the chanting of the holy names of the Lord.

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu chanted the Hare Krishna Maha mantra and that is the example genuine devotees follow.

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was never a religious reformer; what he tried was to help break away from the obscurantist methods of the leaders of religion.

The concept of groups of men and women doing the rounds chanting the name of the Lord to the music of cymbals has, through the last 500 years successfully brought disparate elements together as no amount of dialogues and persuasion have.

There is not much religion in this; if there is anything, it is the single-minded devotion and love for human beings, the representatives of the Creator on the earth.

If it is a religion, it is one of love. The Vedas, all through the ages, were the sole privilege of the three upper Varnas and these people saw to it that it stayed that way. Until Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu came. He took the Vedas, brought the simplest slokas out of them and with his magic, transformed them into the eternal.

"Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare."

Now literates and illiterates alike, men and women together found a new expression. Brahmins and Sudras sang together. Their cymbals struck in unison.

What else was joy, if it was not this? Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was also one of the foremost in this land of ours to raise his voice against the evils of untouchability.

In a society torn by the violence among communities, he had the strength and conviction to adopt many Muslims and Sudras among his disciples. Perhaps the most famous of them is Hari das.

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu faced no mean opposition from the Brahmins for his allegiance to this disciple of his. He nursed the sick Haridas, fed him when he was shunned and carried his dead body till the earth and air took over. It is this relationship between Guru and disciple that marks one of the most significant and meaningful stages of Sri Caitanya's life.

Recently, since the 1960s the West has become enamoured of the Bhakti movement. The International Society for Krishna Consciousness has flourished abroad. Millions of Prabhupada's Books and Back To Godhead magazines have been distributed all over the world. This is not unnatural considering the dilemmas of the West. The time has now come to give oneself up to the Call of Lord Krishna.

"There is no prayer a devotee does not know what to ask for, what he/she really wants is to always repeat the name of Lord Krishna."

The popularity of the ISKCON (The International Society for Krishna Consciousness) in the West can also be traced to an extent to the universal appeal of Vaisnava Dharma spread by Srila Prabhupada.

The congregational chanting of Hare Krishna by ISKCON is now on the Streets of major Cities around the world.

This dancing on the streets chanting Hare Krishna is beyond any rigid meditations and closer to the western psyche.

The total involvement, the long hours of dancing-chanting are refreshingly playful; even if the philosophy of this almost yogic Krishna trance so induced is not quite understood, the sheer enjoyment of the experience is enough. The frills of this Puja were always alien to the West.

The world has had too many Vietnams, far too many ambitions and too much bloodshed. But, the citizens of this world can easily access the chanting of Hare Krishna.

Generally life at birth is unknown, so also is death at the end. Only during the intervening period do we revel in it, our reality, our world to see. If this world is all we have - a fragment of the timeless eternity - let us not destroy it with our own hands. It is time now the chanting of Hare Krishna made the obvious choice and sense to all. It is time it took over.

This chanting of Hare Krishna is the true religion of love.

Around this time a devotee came back from India with a tape of an Indian movie about the life of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu made in 1959, everyone went to the school library and watched the film with its English subtitles.

We all found this movie created an even more auspicious atmosphere for the 500th Anniversary celebrations.

At the school, a favourite time for all the children was watching the ABC program 'Behind The News' which focused on world events.

One such documentary on religion concerned three young girls (ten years of age) and their story about visions of the Mother Mary at Fatima, Portugal in 1917.

The convictions of the children attracted hundreds of journalists and over one hundred thousand people to await the vision of the Holy Madonna who said God would never abandon them. The enormous crowd also seemed to see the Sun grow in enormous size and appear to touch the Earth in a white blinding light.

The program was impressive religiously, and most importantly, it concreted the conviction of how children will attracted so much attention to their message in Fatima. This documentary firmly planted the idea in us that children are a good way to convince others about a good cause. 

It was obvious the Krsna kids are genuine and firmly believe their faith and convictions in Srila Prabhupada’s teachings WILL change the world.

Many of us prayed to Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu knowing the time was now right to engage these Krsna children in His unfolding wonderful plan of reawakening the spirituality of human society (and hopefully our own as well).

The spiritual convictions many of us had at this time was fascinating and very strong, beyond questioning or doubts.

It seemed everything else was put aside due to what we were being trained up for at this time and what would soon unfold in almost all the living rooms in homes in Australians and New Zealanders.

It was almost as if we were being pushed in a very basic way in a direction where something very, very big and special was waiting, you could feel it, it was in the air.

Krsna was soon going to be give us all a the great gift of preaching to millions that even great devotees and Acharyas of the past could only dream of. And the Krsna children would lead the way to whatever it is.

This is how I thought after watching that film. We had no idea what the Lord's plan for us was. All we personally desired and prayed for was-

“Please Lord use us in your wonderful plan."

It seemed for many, God's justice is not just black or white, everyone just wanted to see this project successful regardless of our faults and whatever past mistakes we had made.

Often the Lord works in mysterious ways to achieve His goals. Maybe He was giving us all a chance to do something for Krsna that we will never forget and remember to our last breath on this world.

After all Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is Patita Pavana which means the deliver of the most fallen. Regardless of variegated opinions of how to preach, we maintained the conviction and faith that something wonderful would soon happen, and no-one could stop us or even attempted to stop us.

There was something very special and powerful in the air, far more important than any faults ISKCON was experiencing during these early pioneering years.

Srila Prabhupada - "O good soul, does not a thing, applied therapeutically, cure a disease which was caused by that very same thing? Thus when all a man's activities are dedicated to the service of the Lord, those very activities which caused his perpetual bondage become the destroyer of the tree of work." (SB, Canto I, Ch 5, Text 33, 34)

Those who thoroughly read and understand Prabhupada's books will also understand the Lords often causeless mercy that will melt their cold hearts and the pride of being puffed up with (Jnan) knowledgeable of just rules and regulations without understanding “the Lords amazing warm mercy.

This famous poem sums up my mentality-

“It's not the critic that counts, nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or whether the doer of the deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly, who errs and often comes up short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause. And who, if at best in the end, knows the triumph of higher treatment and high achievements and who at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his soul shall never be with those cold and timid ones who know neither victory nor defeat.” (Theodore Roosevelt President Of The United States From 1901-1912)

Srila Prabhupada had left us so much book knowledge, but the movement was heading into a serious crisis. Obviously, real acceptance must penetrate into the heart, and not just be bandied around in the mind.

Academically, some devotees were well educated, but not all however, to survive in spiritual life requires Spiritual knowledge to be accepted through the heart and ''acted upon'' and not just on the mental platform of just knowing texts and slokas without proper realizations. 

Sadly, many devotees, including myself, were often on that immature mental platform not fully understanding the deep meanings of the texts and slokas we rambled off. Genuine pure devotees are very, very rare in the material world.

One day soon, I thought, these children would be on "Behind The News" with their Krishna conscious messages to the world.

It was obvious to every devotee on the farm we wanted to use the children for preaching to the media however, we believe it was Prabhupada and Krishna giving us all a chance, an opportunity to preach to the world about Krishna and Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. So, for whatever the reason, we were preaching the message of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and that was our determined mission. 

We had the strong determinations to engage the childrens simplicity and innocence to spread Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON Movement movement. 

In fact, many were convinced that as long as that simplicity and desire to preach remained uncontaminated and pure, then Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu would bestow upon us a gift beyond our wildest dreams, as long as we passed the many tests that would eventually come our way. 

After all, it is Maya's duty to test us all with temptations just to see if it was Krishna we really wanted.

As soon as you successfully preach about Krishna, then Maya's duty is to test every devotee to see if it is service to Krishna we all really want, or if there is some hidden agenda?

As we became more successful, we were greatly tested to see if it was serving Krishna’s devotees in the Soviet Union we really wanted to achieve. At the time we never really fully understood this fact.

So, it was not long after all the devotees had returned from the Mayapur festival in India, everyone was discussing the most talked about topic of the festival; ''The Hare Krishna devotees being persecuted in the Soviet Union for their religious beliefs''.

One of the devotees handed us a copy of "Amnesty International News." On the front page was a story about one Hare Krishna devotee, Anotoli Pinyayev.

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
Australian Newsletter.


USSR: Crackdown on Hare Krishna Movement-

At least thirty one Soviet members of the Hare Krishna Movement have been prosecuted for practising their religion, according to reports AI has received since 1981. Hare Krishna is a mystical Indian religion which advocates non violence and preaches the illusory nature of material things. 

Most were given sentences of up to five years imprisonment on a charge of anti-social religious activity. However, five were ruled unfit to stand trial and were confined against their will to psychiatric hospitals for indefinite periods. One of the five, is thirty five year old Anatoli Pinyayev, reported to have been the first Soviet convert to Hare Krishna.

He met foreign evangelists of the Hare Krishna Movement while working as a technician in Moscow State University in 1971, including the founder of ISKCON His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, and then spent five years travelling throughout the USSR preaching the principles of the religion.

He was arrested in 1982 and ordered by a court to be forcibly confined to a special psychiatric hospital. Anatoli Pinyayev is currently held in Sychovka special psychiatric hospital in Smolensk region, where repeated treatment with the antipsychotic drug, Haloperidol, is said to have undermined his health.

People who have visited him say his body has swollen, he suffers from facial convulsions, and is mentally lethargic. Freedom of conscience is proclaimed as a fundamental human right by the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, to which the USSR is party.

There is no evidence to suggest that Anatoli Pinyayev, or the other imprisoned followers of Hare Krishna, have used or incited violence in support of their beliefs, and ''Amnesty International'' has adopted them as prisoners of conscience.

I then showed all the kids, some didn't even know where the Soviet Union was on the map, The discussions continued.

We were all told it was decided at the Mayapur GBC meetings that the foremost important preaching project was to help free all Soviet Hare Krishnas, so one morning Prahlad said to me-

"You know so many people in the media, why can't we engage them to help free the Soviet Hare Krishnas?”

It was then becoming obvious to me that Krishna had a plan for us and we would help bring attention to the plight of Hare Krishna devotees in the Soviet Union. Having no idea in what way the media could be used, I said-

"So, how are we going to use the media, any ideas?"

The boy thought about it, but had no answer.

On Wednesday 23rd April, 1986, we discussed the situation about imprisoned devotees in the Soviet Union again. Yes, we did have many good contacts in the media, but how can they be engaged? 

In the meantime, Tripadi das (Sydney Hare Krishna PR man) was arranging a demonstration at the Soviet Consulate in Sydney. 

After hearing that news a few of the children in the Gurukula suggested-

"Can we also go down to that demonstration? It's a good excuse to get away from boring school (laughing)." 

What they said though gave us an idea-

"Let's have the children make the central plea in our demonstration in Sydney. they can all offer flowers and be seen asking the Soviet authorities to free the parents of Soviet children in Russia."

I then rang Tripadi prabhu who began making arrangements in Sydney.  
  
From the TV News we learnt there was also a girl in the United States who wrote a letter to Mr. Gorbachev and the Soviet girl who wrote a letter to Mr. Reagan and we could do the same thing, by getting our kids to do something and hopefully still attract heaps of media attention.

I can see it now, "Krishna Kids write letter to Gorbachev." In fact one of the Kids can even read it at the demonstration in front of the Soviet Consulate to the Television news.

After the telephone call, we couldn't move fast enough. I hastily drove to the boys' Ashram near the school. I found a pen and paper and wrote down some ideas thinking, "How does a twelve-year-old kid think?" 

The atmosphere was sharp and exciting, the idea of a letter could springboard our Soviet campaign in Australia added new life to the project.

Eventually the boys arrived back from the Temple. I gave Prahlad what I had written (as he was the eldest). He read it over and over, saying:

"What's this word mean? I wouldn't write like this, this is not me etc, etc."

Eventually, he changed the letter to suit his writing style - we now had our letter.

The purpose of the letter was to impress the media and hopefully embarrass the Soviets, forcing them to relax their persecution of the Soviet devotees.

As Prahlad "attempted" to write the letter neatly, I knew that many people would eventually read it. It needed to be simple, clear and straightforward. How can anyone not take notice of the innocence of a child?

The next day, Thursday 24th April 1986, the Srimad Bhagavatam class was dedicated entirely to learning about the Soviet Hare Krishnas.

Yasomatinandana dasa (the Temple President of the Farm New Govardhana) gave the class, reading from the Soviet manual Kirtiraj dasa, the world wide organiser of the “Campaign to free imprisoned Hare Krishna devotees in the USSR”, had sent us.

The article he read was about Anatoli Pinyayev (Ananta Shanti das).

At the end of class Yaso (as we called him) announced that all the older children would be attending the Sydney demonstration (he had arranged it earlier with Tripadi prabhu and the Sydney devotees).

Along with the Soviet manual from Kirtiraj, there were brochures, badges and postcards. Demonstrations would be held all over the world. Ours was set for May 5th 1986 in Sydney out the front of the Soviet Consulate.

Yasomatinandana Dasa was enthusiastic to make this campaign successful, he provided the necessary funds to hire a van for Yumuna Acharya Dasa, a teacher from the Gurukula school and myself to take the fifteen children to Sydney.

Yaso was a great one for ideas as long as he was always remained in control; he also suggested we somehow find twenty-five doves and release them out the front of the Soviet Consulate during the demonstration.

Thursday evening, we all wanted a break from the excitement of preparing for our demonstration in Sydney as the Russian Consulate. There was still more we could do, but what was that? 

That night Hamish (aspiring young devotee on the farm) and I went to the Movies in Murwillumbah and saw a reenactment documentary of the TWA hijacking in 1985 (Delta Force with Chuck Norris).

During the film I couldn't help but think of our new Soviet campaign. The film showed Palestinians hijacking an aeroplane and holding a gun to the pilots head as he gave a press conference from the window of his cockpit.

Everyone was trying to resolve the situation while the American anti-terrorist group prepared to end the hijacking violently. 

Hamish was caught up in the political argument on the screen and said:

“Everyone, the Palestinians, the Israelis, the Americans, and especially the Russians are all so hypocritical, they all expect world peace while they persecute each other. It's obvious the Palestinians need their own home land, then there is hope for peace. After all, peace like charity, begins at home."

Looking surprised at what he said, I asked-

"What did you just say?"

He repeated-

"Peace, like charity, begins at home!”

I then laughed and said-

"Thank you. You've just given our project its new motto. We will have that on banners ..... in fact, we will get all the kids wearing a T-shirt with that printed on it.

"Peace, like charity, begins at home” We need professional banners, signs, everything."

The next morning, Friday 25th April 1986, I rang Tripadi and suggested the ideas. He thought they were great and arranged the printing of the signs and banners.

Also that morning, Tulsimala dasi wrote a press release from the Soviet manual Kirtiraja had sent us. She was extremely enthusiastic saying-

"This is the beginning of something very, very big, it may even help contribute to major reforms now taking place in the Soviet Union."

I replied saying- "Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, all we want at this time is for our people to be free"

She further wrote-

Mr. Gorbachev should know that-

"Peace like charity begins at home" and "Free the Soviet Hare Krishnas." 

A concise report on the history and persecution of the Hare Krishna Movement in the USSR-

The situation of the Soviet Hare Krishna devotees has become so critical that whereas previously information was kept confidential, due to concern for their safety, we now realise their plight is so serious that hopefully, publicity will lead to action on their behalf.

The founder of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, Srila Prabhupada, pioneered the preaching in the Soviet Union while on a government supervised, guided tour of Moscow in April, 1971.

At the invitation of G.G. Kotovsky, Professor of the Indian and South Asian Studies Department of the USSR Academy of Sciences, Srila Prabhupada gave extensive talks on the ancient philosophy of Krishna Consciousness. A young Muscovite, Anatoli Pinyayev, a student of Oriental Philosophy, showed great interest in Srila Prabhupada and the Vedic philosophy he enunciated.

After receiving personal instruction, Anatoli took up the mission of spreading the message of Krishna Consciousness to his fellow countrymen. He, is now imprisoned in a special psychiatric hospital in Smolensk where he is administered heavy, prolonged doses of the drug, Haloperidol, resulting in a deteriorating physical and mental condition.

There are now two hundred initiated devotees, full time preachers who have taken the Hare Krishna vows of abstinence from intoxication, illicit sex, meat eating and gambling, all of whom are Russian.

Foreign members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness are not welcome to the Soviet Unionare. 

The last time foreign devotees visited the USSR was in 1980, when the present initiating Spiritual Master for the movement, Srila Harikesa Maharaja, entered on a preaching mission. The KGB arrested him and his aide, confiscated their passports and air tickets, and held them under house arrest in their hotel. After some deliberation, their belongings were returned and they were deported with a stern warning never to return.

A major Soviet daily newspaper reported the movement's leader "as a long-time agent of the CIA, who used ideological diversion tactics that were anti-social, dangerous to mental well-being and anti-Soviet."

A world-wide campaign to free the Soviet Hare Krishnas has begun.

"This is not an anti-Soviet campaign," says Campaign Leader, Kirtiraj Das of Sweden said and continued-

"The Soviet people are very receptive to our books. The populace live structured, regulated lives, unspoilt by rampant Hedonism. They are austere people with an emergent interest in philosophy. They should be granted the basic human right of being able to practise the religion of their choice. We intend to take a firm stand over this matter as twenty-five devotees are still being held in labour camps, goals and psychiatric hospitals for the crime of being adherents to Hinduism, one of the world's oldest and largest religions."

The Hare Krishna Movement in Australia will take part in the global protest, they will assemble outside the Soviet Consulate and Embassy on 5th May 1986. They will continue their campaign until two demands are met-

1. That the Soviet authorities release their members and, if those members so desire, allow them to leave the Soviet Union, with their families, to freely practise the religion of their choice.

2. That those members of the Hare Krishna Movement choosing to remain in the Soviet Union, and agreeing to abide by the laws of their country, be permitted to register branches of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness in their respective cities and villages.

And, subsequent to this registration, the members of the congregations be permitted to practise their religious beliefs and ceremonies without intrusion on the part of Soviet authorities and without threat of persecution and imprisonment.

"There is clearly a violation of human rights", said Campaign Spokesman for Australia, Gary Anderson (Gauragopala dasa) and continued-

"The most tragic example is that of Olga Kiseleva, 38 years, married and mother of two children aged 4 and 5. She was imprisoned while pregnant and due to severe conditions of her incarceration, her baby daughter, Marika, whom she was allowed to see for only one hour a day, died at 11 months of age. Our Australian branch of the Campaign to Free the Soviet Hare Krishnas will take this issue to its limits. We will fight relentlessly for the freedom of our Godbrothers and Godsisters in Russia even if we have to tour Australia and gather a million signatures demanding their release.

On Monday May 5th 1986 at 11 am the Australian Hare Krishna devotees will combine flower garlands and make a wreath to be laid at the Russian Consulate in Woollahra, Sydney in memory of Olga's baby, Marika, and to commemorate 1986 as the International Year of Peace, supposedly supported by General Secretary of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev.

If further details are needed please contact Gary Anderson (Gauragopala dasa) at the Australian Headquarters of the Hare Krishna Movement, Murwillumbah, NSW. (066)721903, (066)723325 or Tony Foley (Tripadi dasa) (02)3562100, (02)3575162.

Friday afternoon we picked up the letter, Prahlad's handwriting was atrocious, more like a four-year-olds than a twelve-year-old. He had made five or six attempts to write it. Eventually Raman who helped with ideas for the letter, wrote the letter.

Dear Mr. Gorbachev,

We are two boys Prahlad and Raman, aged 12 and 11, who go to the Hare Krishna school in Australia. Our fathers buy many magazines and newspapers and over the last few months we have tried to understand your views of peace. For a long time now we have wanted to visit your country, but we are a little bit scared about the things we have heard about Russia. 

We have heard some terrible things about what is happening there to the parents of Hare Krishna children. They must be strong devotees of Krishna to be punished just because they are following a religion that they feel is right and put into labour camps and hospitals and still be keeping their beliefs.

We don't think you would like it if you were punished for a belief you have. As young boys we are trying very hard to understand what it would be like if we were not allowed to follow our Hare Krishna lifestyle.

We were born into the Hare Krishna Movement and are very happy. We would like to come to the Soviet Union and meet other Soviet children, maybe even your children, and show you there is no harm in the Hare Krishna life style. Your efforts for peace are great but maybe you don't even know that Soviet Krishnas are not allowed peace.

We are asking to be allowed to come and see you.

Yours faithfully,

Prahlad das (12 years old) and Raman das (11 years old) Friday 25th April 1986.

In this beginning stage of our campaign, something very wonderful surround and protected our project and would continue to do so as long as our campaign focused on freeing the Soviet Hare Krishnas.

We still had a long way to go, this was only the very beginning of a 3 year campaign. 

We had now become part of a 500 year old prediction that the chanting of Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare, will go to every town and village of the world, including every province and Town in the Soviet Union.

That afternoon we arranged the boys T-shirts at the Tweed City Shopping Centre. They read,

"Free The Soviet Hare Krishnas" 

"Mr Gorbachev, Peace Like Charity, Begins At Home."

On Monday the 29th April 1986, eager to show the boy's letter to a newspaper, we arranged to meet the education writer of the Courier Mail in Brisbane, Andrew Geraghty. When Prahlad and Raman spoke with him, their shy simplicity didn't penetrate his educated mind, however, he was sympathetic to the boys' cause.

Prahlad read him the letter, but couldn't answer many of Andrew's questions about Soviet politics and communism, only saying with deep emotion that Hare Krishna devotees were being persecuted for their religious beliefs.

As we left the Courier Mail building, he kindly showed the boys the printing presses in the basement of the building. The boys found the tour fascinating, being most impressed by the enormous giant printing press with a capacity to print 560,000 newspapers daily (Courier Mail).

Andrew told the boys-

"By getting one article in the newspaper, that's how many people it would reach, remember each paper is read by 3 or 4 people making about 1.5 million readers."

Then added,

"The journey of a thousand miles always begins with one small step. Keep trying boys, because you don't know where this will take you, nor how much good you both may achieve by never giving up. Remember boys, always be positive. If you build your dream of freeing devotees like Anatoli Pinyayev, then your dream will encourage you to pursue their freedom.

''Build your dreams and your dreams will build you!"

Tears welled in my eyes as he said those amazing words, because it was Srila Prabhupada's dream that his devotees would one day be singing and dancing on the streets of Moscow and Leningrad.

This advice “Build your dreams and your dreams will build you” would stay with us throughout the entire campaign and even helped getting back on our feet during difficult struggles.

In an attempt to further help, Andrew concluded-

"Both you boys should relax when speaking to journalists, just be yourselves, show that you care about your people in the USSR, and your sincerity will shine through and do the rest."

That evening, Friday the 29th of April 1986, I went up to the boy's ashrama and listened to the short-wave radio belonging to Prahlad's father. We tuned to "Voice Of America" and heard some startling news, the announcer said-

"From all indications from US satellites, there has been an explosion in one of the Soviet Union's nuclear reactors in Ukraine. Soviet authorities are evacuating hundreds of thousands of people from Pripyat and Chernobyl in the Soviet province of Ukraine. There is fear also for the city of Kiev, however, Soviet authorities are not saying anything to the international community at this stage."

The next day I bought the newspaper, and there was not even a mention of it, I couldn't understand how "Voice of America" could report such a serious thing and the world press not mention it. Obviously, everyone is waiting for the Soviets to explain what's going on. 

There was also no mention of the interview the children had with Andrew Geraghty. At first I doubted whether the media would show interest, after all, it had already been done by American and Soviet children. 

The only chance of making the boys' letter interesting was obvious; the boys would present it to the Soviet Consulate on Monday.

That afternoon I saw Bruce Devine (photographer) in town and had photographs developed, showing devotees wearing the "Free The Soviet Hare Krishnas" T­ shirts.

We then drove to the Gold Coast and did an article with the Brisbane Telegraph. After the Courier Mail interview, both boys were enthusiastic; they would enthuse other children in the school by telling them about the enormous printing press, adding-

"Millions of people can be reached through the newspaper media. We didn't understand until we saw that enormous printing press."

The next day, May 1st 1986, the Chernobyl disaster was reported through the world media after the Soviets admitted there was a disaster.

There were pictures of the empty town of Chernobyl in the Soviet province of Ukraine shown on the front page of the Australian, and the Soviet authorities stating that the situation is under control. 

This also was the day-

"The Soviet Australian Campaign to help free the Hare Krishna's in Russia' was initiated in the media."

The press release and conversation at the beginning of the week had convinced Australia's top religious writer, James S. Murray from the Sydney Morning Herald, to write a feature article.

Hare Krishna victims of Soviet wrath.

By its outrageous denial of religious freedom, the Equal Opportunities Board of NSW has really put itself into the category of persecutor, though it may seem mild in comparison with some bureaucracies in other parts of the world.

But by its denial of the right of a property owner to refuse the use of premises owned by him to a couple living in a relationship which offended his conscience, it has taken the well-worn path of persecutor.

It is ironical, therefore, that the Hare Krishna movement - ISKCON - feels constrained to picket Soviet embassies all over the world on May 5th in order to publicise the USSR's discriminatory policy against Hare Krishna devotees.

While I personally view some of the Hare Krishna Movement's beliefs and practices as quaint, and their claim to be inheritors of ancient Vedic religion as questionable, their sincerity and extensive social welfare work are significant.

In the context of the Soviet Union, such extrovert behaviour was almost certain to attract opposition, exploding like a bright star in what is often a drab environment.

Now, the vegetarianism practised by Hare Krishna devotees is described officially as ''damaging to one's physical and mental well-being", along with the repetitive chanting of God's holy names.

The movement has brought KGB investigation and has led to interrogations, raids on meetings, physical violence and the eventual confinement of Krishna devotees in labour camps, psychiatric hospitals and prisons.

The authenticated material supporting ISKCON's claims is impressive. Until now, ISKCON has kept its evidence confidential, in the hope that representations to the Soviet Government would succeed, and out of a fear that publicity would only put their members at risk.

"There are now 200 initiated devotees, full-time preachers who have taken the vow of abstinence from intoxication, illicit sex, meat eating and gambling, all of whom are Russian,° says the ISKCON statement.

Hardly a prescription for persecution, and even commendable in a country where excessive drinking is as bad as our own, and where meat eating is a limited activity.

One of these religious dissidents is a young Muscovite Anatoli Pinyayev, a student of Oriental philosophy who showed his first interest in the movement when Srila Prabhupada, ISKCON's originator, visited the Soviet Union in 1971.

For his eventual involvement in "spreading the word", an offence in itself, Anatoli is now imprisoned in a special psychiatric hospital in Smolensk, where he is administered heavy, prolonged doses of the drug Haloperidol, resulting in a deteriorating physical and mental condition.

Twenty-five other documented cases offer similar, or even more intolerable treatment of members of ISKCON. But the Soviet authorities have tried to implicate the movement with CIA operations.

The world-wide ISKCON campaign to free their Soviet members is "not an anti-Soviet campaign" says Kirtiraj Das, who is coordinating the protests from Sweden.

"The Soviet people are very receptive to our books, the populace live structured regulated lives unspoilt by rampant hedonism. They are an austere people with an emergent interest in philosophy. They should be granted the human right ... to practise the religion of their choice."

Such freedoms are always restricted by pure Marxist-Leninist ideologies. And the very mention of books is anathema. They suffer from the same fear the Church once displayed: that freedom to read what you wish is dangerous. Yet they attack religious faith as obscurantist and reactionary.

On Monday 5th May 1986, in Canberra and Sydney, Hare Krishna devotees, their children with them, will peacefully demonstrate outside the Soviet offices. Wearing flower garlands.

They will lay a wreath at the entrance to the Soviet Embassy in memory of an 11-month-old baby, a child of Olga Kiseleva, born while Olga was already in prison.

She remains separated from her husband and their two other children for the offence of obeying her conscience and wanting to chant the holy names of God.(For Newsprint Article See P.40 Information Index).

The article had become a further press release to all the media. Being enthusiastic, the boys wanted to add a comment about the Chernobyl disaster to their letter they were sending to Gorbachev, and eventually added:

PS - We have just heard about the nuclear disaster in Russia and feel very sad so many people in your country have lost their lives."

That day we had another article; Mallika dasi shown putting a 'Free The Soviet Hare Krishnas' badge on her mother.

"Mallika, fourteen, pins a protest badge on her mother, Janani, watched by Aravinda, twelve months, at the Hare Krishna World at Eungella, near Murwillumbah.

The badge is part of the Krishna protest over the imprisonment of sect members in the USSR.

Local devotees, including thirty primary school children, will lay a protest flower, wreath, outside the Russian Consulate in Sydney on Monday."

On Saturday 3rd May 1986, we all left for Sydney.

The 'Australian' enthused everyone. As the children heard more from the large Soviet Manual sent by Kirtiraja, they seemed to relate more to the death of the young baby girl, Marika, who died after being separated from her mother Olga Kiseleva (Premavati devi dasi).

"Olga was charged under Article #227, Part 1, of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR Soviet Constitution for organising and leading an illegal religious group, translating religious literature and being in contact with foreign agents.

The trial was held from the 27th of January to the 2nd February 1984 at the Oktyabrsky District Court in Moscow. It has been reported that no one was permitted to attend her trial, not even her husband Rein Metsniin.

During the trial the judge expressed his opinion that vegetarianism was equal to insanity. Olga was sentenced to 4 years in a corrective labour camp of ordinary regime.

The farm where she and her family lived was also confiscated. Her release was scheduled for the 29th August 1988. She was imprisoned in the isolation ward of the Matrosskaya Tishina St. Prison in Moscow.

Later, she was taken to the maternity hospital in a police car with bars on the windows. Her third daughter, Marika, was born on the 27th of February, 1984.

Following the birth they were returned to the prison in the same car. The baby was born with a heart condition and had difficulty moving her arms.

Olga and her daughter were then moved to a special labour camp for imprisoned mothers with children. Olga had the opportunity to see her new born daughter for only one hour a day. There was a period of quarantine in the children's department of the labour camp, and for that period of time, Olga was not able to see her daughter for even that one hour daily. No explanation was ever given as to why the quarantine was instituted.

ON THE 9th JANUARY 1985, MARIKA DIED AT THE AGE OF ELEVEN MONTHS.

After the death of her baby, Olga was able to see her only once, to certify that Marika was indeed her child. One of the other prisoners who was working in the children's department, later reported that she had seen Olga's daughter the day before her death.

The child had been standing up and appeared to be in perfect physical health. Her death remains a mystery”.

As these stories were read to the children, I was fascinated that nine to twelve year-olds were emotionally moved by these reports. 

Most children don't even care what is going on outside their own backyard, not to mention the Soviet Union, but as they heard more about a country that doesn't allow people to hear about Krishna, the more they became concerned, and began to understand more about the world outside their own.

The morning of Monday 5th of May 1986 was a little cold and cloudy in Sydney, as if it would rain at any time.

Tripadi had arranged all the banners and placards, and the media were reminded again over the telephone that the Hare Krishna devotees will be demonstrating out the front of the Soviet Consulate in Sydney.

At 10 am Pratapana arranged a meeting of all the devotees; we discussed our plan and again extracts were read out of the Soviet manual to inform devotees what is happening to those attempting to practise the religion of their choice in Russia. We were concerned that the time wasn't suitable for our demonstration due to the Chernobyl disaster that happened a week earlier but only now picked up by the media.

The Chernobyl disaster now was being reported as a catastrophic nuclear accident, previously the Soviets attempted to cover it up. It actually occurred on 25–26 April 1986 at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant near the town of Pripyat in northern Ukrainian approximately 104 kilometres north of the City of Kiev.

As each day progressed, the reports of the disaster became worse. Obviously, there were far more serious things going on in the USSR, than the imprisonment of a few Hare Krishnas, as far as the media were concerned.

By 11 am, eighty devotees had congregated at the Soviet Consulate and the twenty-five doves had also arrived, but only one reporter from the Sydney Mirror had turned up. Tripadi and I became anxious and thought the Chernobyl disaster would consume all the news.

Then to our surprise Channel 10, 7, 9, and finally SBS, who were also filming for the ABC, arrived, followed by photographers from the Australian Newspaper, Sydney Morning Herald, The Melbourne Age, Melbourne Sun, etc.

Even photographers from the magazines ''Simple Living'', ''Australiasian Post'' and ''People'', turned up.

I said to Tripadi:

"Soon everyone's going to know about the baby girl Marika dying in a Soviet prison camp”.

Pratspana dasa then stopped the chanting, led by Ramai Swami and spoke:

"We are here today because people in the Soviet Union are being persecuted for their religious beliefs. In these releases we are now handing out (Tripadi handed out information) on cases of persecution, it is described how they put Hare Krishna devotees in psychiatric hospitals, because the authorities there consider everyone who doesn't follow the Communist system to be mad.

They inject the imprisoned devotees with all kinds of drugs meant to make them 'sane' or destroy their faith or religious choice. We, therefore, believe this to be a crime against, not only the Hare Krishnas, but a crime against humanity.

Today, all over the world, out the front of every Soviet Embassy and Consulate, demonstrations like this are taking place and will continue until our people are free. Even our children have been greatly moved by this. This young twelve-year-old boy is Prahlad, he would like to read you a letter he is sending, today, to Mr. Gorbachev”.

As Prahlad moved to the front, all the photographers, journalists and T.V. crews shuffled in closer to hear.

Prahlad began reading the letter to the media-

"Dear Mr. Gorbachev,

We are two boys Prahlad and Raman, aged 12 and 11, who go to the Hare Krishna school in Australia. Our fathers buy many magazines and newspapers and over the last few months we have tried to understand your views of peace.

For a long time now we have wanted to visit your country but we are a little bit scared about the things we have heard about Russia. We have heard some terrible things about what is happening there to the parents of Hare Krishna children.

They must be strong devotees of Krishna to be punished just because they are following a religion that they feel is right and put into labour camps and hospitals and still be keeping their beliefs.

We don't think you would like it if you were punished for a belief you have.
As young boys we are trying very hard to understand what it would be like if we were not allowed to follow our Hare Krishna lifestyle.

We were born into the Hare Krishna Movement and are very happy. We would like to come to the Soviet Union and meet other Soviet children, maybe even your children, and show you there is no harm in the Hare Krishna life-style.

Your efforts for peace are great but maybe you don't even know that Soviet Krishnas are not allowed peace. We are asking to be allowed to come and see you.

Yours faithfully,

Prahlad das and Raman das.

"PS - We have just heard about the nuclear disaster in the Soviet Union and feel very sad so many people in your country have lost their lives."

As he read, his simplistic, innocent, squeaky voice impressed everyone. Dressed in dhoti, telak and a freshly shaven head, Prahlad had obviously been impressive. Tears welled in my eyes as he continued reading.

What made this more amazing is, even some of the journalists were emotionally moved by this boy's simple plea. One of the women journalists was wiping tears from her eyes with her handkerchief.

Hearing all this from a child had won the hearts of many journalists, including the well respected Alan Gill, the religious writer for the Sydney Morning Herald who asked me to bring Prahlad to his office after the demonstration. After the letter was read, the children then released the twenty-five white doves.

This became yet another spectacle for the cameras. Soviet KGB agents were filming everything and mingling with the crowd. As the chanting continued, two girls, Kalindi and Prahladananda dasi left a wreath of flowers at the front gate of the Soviet Consulate in remembrance of Marika.

After the demonstration Tripadi sent out a telex over the Inter Tel wire service, all in Capital letters. There was no internet in those day of 1986, this is how Telegrams and Teletexs went out through the phone lines.

O.T.C. INTER TEL

A Complete Public Message Service

ATTENTION MEDIA NET FILER NO.2288 HARE KRISHNA PUBLIC RELATIONS AUSTRALIA WIDE DISTRIBUTION ALL OUTLETS.
HEADLINE.

KRISHNA BABY DIES IN RUSSIAN JAIL.

CHILDREN PROTEST OUTSIDE SOVIET CONSULATE MONDAY 11 AM MAY 5TH AT 11 AM.

TODAY 60 CHILDREN AND MOTHERS FROM HARE KRISHNA SCHOOL AT MURWILLUMBAH DEMONSTRATED OUTSIDE THE RUSSIAN CONSULATE WOOLLAHRA SYDNEY.

DURING THE DEMONSTRATION THE CHILDREN LAID A WREATH COMMEMORATING THE DEATH OF AN 11 MONTH OLD HARE KRISHNA BABY GIRL MARIKA KISELEVA.

MARIKA DIED IN MOSCOW'S MATROSSKAYA PRISON AFTER BEING ABLE TO SEE HER MOTHER FOR ONLY ONE HOUR A DAY.

HER MOTHER OLGA KISELEVA MOTHER OF 2 WAS IMPRISONED WHILE PREGNANT, HER ONLY CRIME WAS THAT SHE WAS A HARE KRISHNA.

THE SCHOOL CHILDREN RELEASED 25 WHITE DOVES AS A TRIBUTE TO THE 25 DEVOTEES WHO ARE CURRENTLY SERVING LONG PRISON SENTENCES IN RUSSIAN JAILS FOR THEIR BELIEFS.

THE CONSULATE ADMINISTRATION DECLINED AN INVITATION TO GREET THE CHILDREN PROTESTING AT THE FRONT GATE.

TWO SCHOOLBOYS PRAHLAD AGED 12 AND RAMAN AGED 11 READ ALOUD A LETTER WRITTEN TO MR GORBACHEV ASKING THAT THEY BE INVITED TO VISIT RUSSIA.

THEY REQUESTED TO MEET MR AND MRS GORBACHEV AND HIS CHILDREN AND SHOW THEM THAT THEY ARE HAPPY LOVING CHILDREN WHO DON'T WANT THEIR HARE KRISHNA PARENTS PUT IN JAIL FOR THEIR BELIEFS.

THE BOYS WILL NOW MAIL THE LETTER TO MR GORBACHEV.
CONSULATE OFFICIALS LATER ACKNOWLEDGED THE DEMONSTRATION COMMENTING THAT "THE HARE KRISHNA DEMONSTRATORS WERE VERY PEACEFUL".

THE AUSTRALIAN BRANCH OF THE INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO FREE THE SOVIET HARE KRISHNAS WILL JOIN WITH BRANCHES WORLD WIDE IN A RELENTLESS FIGHT FOR THE FREEDOM OF ITS FRIENDS IN RUSSIA.

A 75 PAGE REPORT FEATURING PHOTOS OF THE DEVOTEES BEING PERSECUTED IS AVAILABLE ON REQUEST IF ANY FURTHER DETAILS ARE NEEDED.

PLEASE CONTACT PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER TONY FOLEY AT THE KINGS CROSS CENTRE ON 02-3562100, 02-3575162 OR GARY ANDERSON AT MURWILLUMBAH ON 066-721903, 066-723325.

Afterwards, Prahlad, Raman and myself went to the Sydney Morning Herald to meet Alan Gill, one of the most respected Journalists in Australia.

In 1985, Gill won a Walkley Award for excellence in journalism.

Whenever important religious leaders came, Pope John Paul II stepping onto the tarmac at Sydney, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Mother Teresa, the Dalai Lama, the Reverend Ian Paisley, or AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada back in the early 1970s - Alan Gill was waiting for them. And they always got excellent treatment from a man who knew his subject and was committed to it.

On entering the John Fairfax Building which prints the Sydney Morning Herald, we were all fascinated by a painting on the wall, obviously done back in the 1930's.

Under the painting of two people holding an edition of the Sydney Morning Herald, it read:

"Our editorial management shall be conducted upon principle of candour honesty and honour. We have no wish to mislead, no interest to gratify by unsparing abuse or indiscriminate approbation."

A security guard directed us to the reporters reception area. Eventually Alan came and took us to his desk where a photographer waited.

The first thing Alan asked was:

"Did anyone ring the doorbell at the Soviet Consulate?"

I thought for a moment, thinking of Pratapana and Tripadi, knowing they didn't, and I certainly didn't.

"No," I said, unsure of the situation, "I don't think we did”

Laughing, Alan continues:

"I just rang them and they were going to send someone down to get your requests, no-one important, but at least it's someone, however, according to them no-one rang the doorbell."

“For God sake!", Prahlad smirkishly remarked, then continued,

"You mean we did all that and didn't even ring the doorbell?"

Embarrassed by Prahlad's innocent outburst, I quickly attempted to cover myself.

"We put our requests in their mailbox, they eventually received the information."

Alan Gill adds:

"I think it would have been more impressive if you had been seen by the media presenting them with your letter. Anyway, you're right, they'll get it anyway (laughing)."

I sat there totally embarrassed.

Alan continued:

"Anyway boys, what did you think of the demonstration? Are you happy with the result?"

Prahlad answers first:

"Yeah, a lot of media turned up. I think our message will get through."

Raman adds:

"People will know about what's going on now."

Alan commented:

"Well, I can't promise you anything. As you are all probably well aware, there is a serious crisis presently going on in the Soviet Union now with the nuclear disaster in Ukraine, and I don't know if your story will make it in the newspaper, but I'll try."

For the next half hour, the boys went through the Soviet manual explaining the situation in the Soviet Union.

Alan informed us that under Soviet Reforms of 1977, religious freedom was now allowed, and encouraged the boys to continue their fight.

He then told them how he first met Prabhupada in 1972, and was impressed with 'his theological understanding of Hinduism'.

I then noticed on the wall a framed extract that I read and appreciated:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." - American Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776.

"Regardless of whether we appreciate American Imperialism around the world, the basic principles of their constitution does support individual freedoms."

Said Alan on noticing what I was reading.

On hearing our conversation, a journalist sitting across from us added:

“Don't let those words convince you that America has always been the land of the free. Thomas Jefferson eventually signed a proclamation outlawing the religious beliefs of the Sue Indians, ordering their tribes crushed.

In those days being religious, or even being a man, meant you must have European ancestry and be white, as a young man Thomas Jefferson owned hundreds of slaves but later in 1784 said slavery was a stain on the new territories and attempted to ban slavery but his proposal failed in a congress by one vote”

We then thanked Alan Gill for his interest and support and left.

On the way out, we met a Catholic Priest. Prahlad stared at him while he seemed fascinated by the boys robes, finally Prahlad asked:

"Do the Catholics teach that only the Catholics can go back to God's Kingdom?"

The priest smiles at the boy and replies:

"The Catholic Church teaches that it's possible for anyone Protestant, Mohammed, Hindu, Jew, Buddhist, anyone who does God's will according to his conscience can also enter back into the Kingdom of God”.

Prahlad looked impressed by the priest's comment.

Looking at me the priest continues:

“I'm sixty-eight years of age, I've lived in Europe and travelled South East Asia, and you know, over the years I've learnt a very important lesson."

Looking over at the boys smiling the Priest continues,

"Sometimes we think we have a long, long road ahead of us, even to the extent that it's so long we may never see the end.

Then you start rushing, and you rush here and there, and every time you look up you see the road is no shorter than it was before. Then you stress and you strain, then you start getting frightened and fearful of what the future holds and become exhausted, so much so you can't go another step."

He then lifts up his finger and again continues, attempting to give advice to all of us,

"You must never think of the whole road all at once, you should always think of one step at a time, that's all, just one step at a time, then life becomes fun, it becomes simple and not full of schemes and plans that depend too much on others.

Just learn to make your life simple by giving the best you can, and not what others expect of you. This is important, because then you do your job well and are able to go the full distance of life, and never be tired or out of breath."

Afterwards, curiously, Prahlad asked:

"Could you understand what he meant?"

"Well," I attempted to explain, "I think what he is saying is we should not worry about the future, but do what is right and necessary NOW, according to your own level of commitment. I suppose what he's really saying is that we must just learn to be ourselves, then our future will work out for the better, he is 68 and I am 33, his words are his life time experience.

But sadly most religions today try to become comfortable in this material World because they do not know they are not their material body, whereas devotees of Krishna know it is not our real home ."

Prahlad gives his opinion.

"Um, I suppose it's a bit like the story of Prahlada Maharaj; he told all his school friends to worship God while they were still young, and yes, not make mundane plans for the future in this material world."

“Anyway, we should see it through the eyes of our shastra (scripture) also as you just said because devotees are trained to get out of this decaying temporary material world and go back home back to Godhead’’ I added.

That night we all crowded into the TV room at North Sydney Temple to watch the news. All the networks had shown the stories at length. On Channel 10 the devotees appeared just after the Chernobyl disaster report.

In fact, the entire news was about demonstrations, from the Krishnas, Jews, Ukrainians, and the Chernobyl disaster in the Soviet Union.

The next morning the heading on Page 2 of the Sydney Morning Herald was 'Soviets Face Day of Protests On Chernobyl And Krishnas'.

"About 250 Ukrainian Australians stormed the Sydney office of In tourist yesterday, covering the office with anti-Soviet stickers and hurling questions at the staff about everything from the Chernobyl nuclear reactor disaster to Stalin's brutal collectivisation programs of the 1930s.

An hour earlier, the Soviets had been experiencing a more peaceful demonstration outside the Soviet Consulate as about 80 followers of the Hare Krishna religion released 25 doves to protest against religious persecution.

Freedom of religion is theoretically guaranteed under the Soviet constitution yet official Soviet publications have listed Krishna Consciousness as the third greatest threat to modern Russia. (The other two, in descending order of importance, are Western imperialism and rock and roll music.)

The protest in Sydney coincides with publication of a report - authenticated by non-Krishna sources - of civil rights abuses affecting the Hare Krishna and other minority religions in Russia.

It includes accounts of interrogations, raids on meetings, beatings, and confinements in labour camps, prisons and psychiatric institutions."
The Melbourne Age showed the children releasing the doves (See P.46 Information Index).

These articles we read while driving back to Murwillumbah. We left at 3 am.

On arrival we discovered we were also on the front page of the Daily News and the Gold Coast Bulletin and in the Brisbane Telegraph on May 5th (See P.47 Information Index).

CHILDREN JOIN IN KRISHNA PROTEST (Daily News)

Thirteen children from the Hare Krishna Movement's Murwillumbah school joined 150 disciples yesterday in a peaceful demonstration outside the Russian Consulate in Sydney.

The movement's public relations manager in Sydney, Stephen Roberts, said the demonstration was organised to protest the Soviet Union's refusal to recognise the religion or its members in the country.

He said 25 members have been arrested from 1984 with sentences from four to seven years for supporting their beliefs.

The demonstration, which had a Federal police permit, comprised chanting and the presentation of wreaths and banners on the steps of the consulate.

“The campaign will go on until the Hare Krishna Movement is registered in Russia,"

Mr. Roberts said.

“The demonstration was coordinated with other protests organised outside Russian embassies and consulates around the world”.

Mr Roberts said there were 10,000 congregational members living in the Soviet Union.

SECT KIDS TO JOIN GLOBAL PROTEST (Gold Coast Bulletin)

Hare Krishna children from the sect's Tweed Valley commune will take part in a global protest against alleged persecution of the movement's followers in the Soviet Union.

About 30 flower-bearing students from the Hare Krishna school near Murwillumbah will travel to Sydney to join next Monday's protest outside the Russian consulate.

The children will lay a wreath at the consulate in memory of baby Marika Kiseleva, whom the sect says died after being taken from its jailed Krishna mother by Soviet authorities.

The sect says Marika's mother, Olga, 38, is one of 25 Hare Krishna devotees serving long terms in Russian prisons because of their beliefs.

"There is clearly a violation of human rights," said Krishna spokesman Gary Anderson.

"The Australian branch of the Campaign to Free the Soviet Hare Krishnas will take the issue to its limits. We will fight relentlessly for the freedom of our Godbrothers and Godsisters in Russia''.

SECT PLAN FOR VIGIL (Sydney Telegraph)

Members of the Tweed Valley Hare Krishna sect will hold a four hour vigil outside the Russian Consulate in Sydney Today to protest against the persecution of members in the Soviet Union.

The Sydney demonstration will be repeated outside Russian embassies and consulates throughout the world in a bid to highlight the plight of 25 Hare Krishna’s imprisoned by the Russian authorities.

Spokesman for the Tweed group, Mr. Gary Anderson (Gauragopala Dasa), said 60 adults and 30 children had gone to Sydney to plea for the prisoners' release.

He said devotees would use placards and chants to bring home their message to the Russian officials.

Children would lay a wreath on the steps of the Consulate in memory of a Hare Krishna baby who died at 11 months after being separated from its jailed mother, Olga Kiseleva.

Mr. Anderson said the arrests of the Russian Hare Krishnas had been documented by Amnesty International. They were being held in labor camps, jails and psychiatric hospitals. The movement had been outlawed by President Gorbachev who, unlike the Brezhnev regime, saw it as a threat to communism.

"He is quoted as saying the three biggest threats to communism are Western culture, Western rock music and the Hare Krishna movement," Mr. Anderson said.

He said the persecution of sect members was a violation of human rights, and the 45,000 followers throughout the world would fight relentlessly for the release of the Russians and their right to practise freely the religion of their choice.

Enthused to attempt to obtain more coverage on the letter before it was sent to Russia, I took Prahlad and Raman to the Gold Coast Bulletin. I waited in the car while they went in on their own. I wanted to see the result without my being there.

The journalist, Peter Nally, was impressed. The next day the article was mentioned on the front page and the full article was on Page 3.

The Daily News (Tweed Heads-Murwillumbah) and Northern Star (Lismore), printed another article on simpler lines (See P.49 Information Index). Many letters to the Editor praised the boys efforts (most of them written by devotees).
Regardless of who wrote them, they further created more interest among school children.

(Reprinted from the Gold Coast Bulletin, Australia)

Dear Editor,

Those Hare Krishna kids who wrote to Soviet leader Mr. Gorbachev are right. Peace starts at home, and since home is where the heart is, those Russians should examine their own hearts instead of huffing and puffing about nuclear disarmament etc, while at the same time persecuting their minorities - religious and otherwise. Just as in the final analysis a person is judged by what he does rather than by what he says, so will the Russians as a nation be judged.

Richard Lawrence - Broadbeach, Australia.

Dear Editor,

It was a brilliant idea for those two little boys to write a letter. Every great endeavour starts from a small step. It seems the Gold Coast Bulletin attracted even more attention to the issue, as later I also saw the boys read their letter on TV and read an article in Brisbane papers. My mother even saw them on TV in Melbourne. I eagerly wait to read what Mr. Gorbachev says in his return letter!

Mark Tottingham - Surfers Paradise, Australia.

Dear Editor,

I must say the boys' letter to the Soviet leader has helped me realise that many of us Christians shouldn't be narrow-minded. If some belief out of the realm of Christianity has good God loving principles, as the Hare Krishna’s do, then I believe that is also God-sent. I think that as a Christian, I should follow my religion with tolerance.

In fact, it's not even a question of religion, it's a question of free choice. If one wants to follow a certain religion, or even be a communist like Mr. Gorbachev, that's the choice of the individual - and that choice should also be available in Russia. Some of my so-called Christian friends don't like Hare Krishnas. They should read the article that appeared in the Gold Coast Bulletin.

Tracey Miller - Burleigh Heads, Australia.

Teachers were encouraging them to write letters, expressing their views during the International Year Of Peace.

On Saturday 10th May 1986, I rang the Sunday Sun and spoke to Karen Burkman who also worked for Channel 10. She agreed to do an article with the boys and met us at the Gopal's Restaurant at Surfers Paradise.

After speaking to Karen, l requested an attempt to get the boys on Good Morning Australia. She apologised, saying the Sunday Sun would print the story, however, Good Morning Australia would not be interested.

"Your story's getting a bit old now Gary. It will be old news after the Sun covers it." She then encouragingly adds, "However, if you think of something else, give me a ring and let me know."

I pondered over what she said, and knew we would have to think of something else to continue our campaign. I had no idea what we could do. The photographer for the Daily Sun, then took the boys to a mailbox and photographed them sending the letter off to Mr. Gorbachev.

The next day, Sunday 11th May 1986, the final article in the Australian media appeared.

KRISHNA KIDS IN SOVIET PLEA Melbourne Age.

Two Gold Coast Hare Krishna kids have sent Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev a peace letter.

Raman 11, and Prahlad 12, have asked Mr. Gorbachev to let them meet him in Russia in a bid to end what they say is Soviet persecution of Hare Krishnas.

The boys decided to write to Mr. Gorbachev after Amnesty International revealed that 25 Krishna followers are being held in Soviet labor camps.

"For a long time now we have wanted to visit your country' but we are a little bit scared about the things we have heard about Russia." the boys wrote in a letter posted yesterday.

"We have heard some terrible things about what is happening there to the parents of Hare Krishna children.

"They must be strong devotees of Krishna to be punished just because they are following a religion that they feel is right and put into labor camps and hospitals and still be keeping their beliefs.

"We don't think you would like it if you were punished for a belief you have."

The Soviet Union has 10,000 Hare Krishna devotees but the authorities refuse to allow the sect to become a registered religion like Christianity and Judaism.

Prahlad and Raman decided they wanted to do something to help after they'd read of the death of a three-year-old Krishna girl in a forced labor camp.

The boys believe Soviet leaders have misunderstood the Krishna philosophy, and in their letter they ask Mr. Gorbachev for a chance to set the record straight.

"We want to draw as much attention as we can to the situation in Russia," said Prahlad.

This article attracted many to write letters to the farm:

P.O. Box 704 Murwillumbah. 2484
Dear Sir/Madam,

It was appalling to discover that 25 Krishna followers are being held in Soviet labour camps.

I would like to praise the two young Krishna children picture in the article "Krishna Kids in Soviet Plea" - Sunday Sun, May 11, 1986, for their independence of spirit and standing up for what they believe in by bringing to light the persecution of some members of their Movement, in Russia.

In this "1986 International Year of Peace", we can only hope that Mr. Gorbachev takes immediate action to release these people.

Over the next two weeks we all pondered over and over what to do. It seemed our Soviet Campaign was over.

Prahlad said:

“With all the media we have just received, somehow we must find a new angle, the media like hearing what children have to say. None of us want to see the Soviet devotees suffer, I want to help them. Isn't there something we can do?"

On the 24th May 1986, Tripadi arrived for a break at New Govardhana. He had a copy of the latest 'ISKCON World Review' (internal Hare Krishna newspaper).

An enormous spread was reported about our campaign in Australia. He then read the editorial and the article to everyone up at the boys ashram.

CHILDREN'S LETTER TO GORBACHEV A PLEA FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

"We share the same biology, regardless of ideology," writes popular composer Sting in his haunting song of potential nuclear disaster, "I Hope the Russians Love Their Children Too."

So it often is that the pure and simple feelings of children serve as the strongest counterpoint in exposing the capacity of ambitious political systems to inflict suffering on innocent people.

In this issue, The ISKCON World Review reports the story of the Australian devotee-children's appeal to soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, to intervene in his government's cruel mistreatment of Soviet citizens wanting to practice Krishna Consciousness.

The letter reveals the children's intuitive grasp of the spiritual unity of all beings, and leaves us with a clear sense of the destructive illusions that cause men to unjustly suppress one another.

Other international petitions and letter-writing campaigns are underway. We heartily encourage you to write to the officials in charge of the prisons, labor camps, and psychiatric hospitals holding Soviet devotees. Send your letters to the Committee to Free Soviet Hare Krishnas, P.O. Box 7030, Laguna Niguel, CA 92677."

AUSTRALIAN DEVOTEES PROTEST IMPRISONMENT OF SOVIET KRISHNAS

Letter to Mikhail Gorbachev and Release of 25 Doves Calls Attention to Soviet Devotees' Plight.

Sydney, Australia - Devotees marched on the Soviet Consulate here May 5, demanding an end to persecution of Hare Krishnas in USSR.

Children from the Murwillumbah Krishna school released 25 doves - one for each devotee imprisoned in Soviet labor camps, prisons and psychiatric hospitals, ISKCON Regional Secretary Pratapana dasa addressed the country's major newspapers and four TV networks about the plight of the Soviet Hare Krishnas.

Prahlad dasa, aged 12, and Raman dasa, aged 11 wrote a letter to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev asking him to halt the persecution of Hare Krishna devotees in the USSR.

The simple yet emotionally powerful letter was so much appreciated by the journalists that six newspapers printed the letter, and three national TV news shows broadcast Prahlad reading it aloud on prime time.

"Our fathers buy many magazines and newspapers, and during the past few months we have tried to understand your views of peace", they told Mr. Gorbachev in the letter.

“For a long time now we have wanted to visit your country, but we are a little bit scared about the things we have heard about Russia. We have heard some terrible things about what is happening there to the parents of Hare Krishna children. They must be strong devotees of Krishna to be punished just because they are following a religion that they feel is right and put into labor camps and hospitals, and still be keeping their beliefs. We don't think you would like it if you were punished for a belief you have.

As young boys, we are trying very hard to understand what it would be like if we were not allowed to follow our Hare Krishna lifestyle. We were born into the Hare Krishna Movement and are very happy. We would like to come to the Soviet Union and meet other Soviet children, maybe even your children, and show you there is no harm in the Hare Krishna lifestyle. Your efforts for peace are great, but maybe you do not even know that Soviet Hare Krishnas are not allowed peace. We are asking to be allowed to come and see you."

Raman told new reporters that they decided to write the letter when they heard about the 11 month old Hare Krishna baby who died in a Soviet labor camp. Raman was also quoted in the newspapers saying,

"We have been informed the baby was permitted by the Russians only to be with her mother one hour every day. The baby of course died.

He further stated, "I think the Russian leader would order a different attitude towards the Hare Krishnas if he understood our way of life.

"We are not complaining about the Russian way of life, and respect the Russian leader's peace efforts, but we are concerned about what we are informed is a lack of freedom of thought and expression in that country.

We will go on campaigning for Russian leaders to allow Hare Krishnas to either leave Russia unhindered or be allowed to practice their lifestyle and beliefs in Russia without restrictions or persecutions." Raman said.

"We would welcome the chance of saying that to the Russian leader face to face," the boys told reporters.

According to one journalist, a Soviet official in the embassy stated that the Kremlin would hear about this appeal. He acknowledged that the devotees' demonstration was orderly and peaceful and said,

"We now allow religious freedom in our country - that has been so since 1977’’ adding that the devotees need to prove that they are a bonafide religion.

An hour after the protest, an estimated 400 Ukrainian Australians stormed the Soviet tourist office, protesting Soviet inaction during the Chernobyl nuclear disaster.

A headline in the May 6 Sydney Morning Herald read-

"Soviets Face Day of Protests on Chernobyl and Krishnas."

The article included pictures of the Ukrainians rioting and the devotees chanting and holding banners.

The search now had also began to understand our own sense of identity, individuality and a personal relationship with Krishna. At this stage, none of that was realised, many still believed "surrender to Krishna" meant to do what you are told with without personal contributions, denying one's unique self expression of personal offerings of service. 

Such supression is not what the spiritual world is like. The changes in the Soviet Union and our small contribution to try and help free our brothers and sisters in the Soviet Union, opened our own eyes to this misunderstanding and the ignorance of our own supressed condition in the Temple.

As this campaign gained momentum, we realised we had individual talents we could voluntarily contribute if encouraged but sadly only a few encouraged us.

For many of us, the attempt to free the Soviet Hare Krsna devotees was also finding our own freedom of self expression to contribute individual abilities and talents in the Krishna’s service.

In this regards Srila Prabhupada says-

"Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force. Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘you love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada explains in "Nectar of Devotion" that just like the Sun is meaningless without the sun-rays similarly, Krishna is meaningless "without His loving devotees!"

That relationship is NEVER "one-sided," it is ALWAYS a voluntary reciprocal relationship, Prabhupada explained this to his disciples, “if you love me, then I will love you”.

Only a few leaders in Australian ISKCON never encouraged our endeavours preaching to the media in these early pioneering years, some on the farm and some in Melbourne Temple management did not agree with children being paraded in front of the media. 

Everyone knows the next stage of this project would never of happened if we did not hire the talented 20 year old devotee musician Harii Bandhu Dasa known as Havir in our story.

Vrsa Dasa, the Gurukula headmaster at Murwillumbah, Tirtharaj Dasa, the Sankirtan leader who contributed money to help our project, and some local devotees helped expand the project after the letter was sent to Mr. Gorbachev.

That is the next chapter of our story.

This history up to May 5th 1986 was only the very early beginnings of our Australian campaign to help free imprisioned Soviet Hare Krishna devotees.

By your aspiring servant Gauragopala Dasa ACBSP.*==*