Wednesday, January 27, 2021

Hare Krsna will finish up in 10,000 years.

Allen Ginsberg - "Will people still be chanting Hare Krsna in 400,000 years?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No. Hare Krsna will be finished within ten thousand years. There will be no more Hare Krsna".

Allen Ginsberg - "Ah. So what will be left?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Nothing. I'll kill you and eat you, and you shall kill me. You shall eat me. That will be left".

Allen Ginsberg - "After ten thousand years?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, there will be no grain, no milk, no sugar, no fruit. So I will have to eat you, and you will have to eat me. Full facility for meat-eating.

Full facility. Krsna is very kind. He'll give you facility - "All right. Why cows and calves? You take your own son. Yes. Eat nicely." Just like serpents, snakes -- they eat their own offspring and also tigers do the same. 

So this WILL happen after 10,000 years. And there will be no brain then to understand God (Krsna), no preachers, nothing. 

And then Krsna will come as Kalki Avatar - "All right, let Me kill you so that you will be saved." (May 13, 1969, Columbus, Ohio United States)

Hare Krsna will be finished on this planet in 10,000 years after a Golden Age of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement.

Lord Krsna Caitanya's Sankirtan Moment ONLY comes to ONE Kali-yuga out of every 1000.

So this Kali-yuga is very rare because of Lord Caitanya and Srila Prabhupāda. 

Look on line for the symptoms of Kali-yuga and you will understand.

Let's surrender to Krsna and His pure devotee NOW, otherwise it IS possible to keep taking birth in this degraded Kali-yuga and see the end of Hare Krsna on this planet.

Only saying it is now the time to go back home back to Godhead to our REAL perpetual HOME in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.

The material decaying creation is NOT our real home and we are NOT these material bodily vessels we are now in.

There will be a Golden age of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Moment.

However, AFTER the 10,000 years that the Golden Age is in, Hare Krsna will be finished.

And no more Hare Krsna for the remainder of Kali-yuga.

This means that after the next 10,000 years there will be no more Hare Krsna, or any religious principles in the remainder of Kali-yuga.

How to understand this is as follows-

Presently we have had 5000 years of Kali-yuga (from 432,000 years of Kali-yuga)

That means there are 427,000 years left which has 10,000 years of Hare Krsna in that figure.

Then after that, there are 417,000 years left where no Hare Krsna will exist.

This means for the remaining 417,000 years of Kali-yuga, this Earth planet is a hellish planet.

And then at the end of Kali-yuga, Kalki Avatar comes and kills every one, liberating the trapped souls from their Kali-yuga hell.

The souls He liberates from their degraded material body, enter the impersonal Brahman also known as the impersonal Brahmajyoti, and remain there in a dormant state for a very  long time.

However, the jiva-souls in the impersonal Brahmajyoti cannot remain dormant forever there because the nature of the soul is to be always "active" and NOT "inactive".

Therefore because such a dormant condition of the jiva-soul in the impersonal Brahmajyoti is temporary, means the jiva-soul MUST eventually again take birth in the material creation, and carry on attempting to satisfy their material mundane desires from where they left off after being liberated by Kalki Avatar (Visnu-tattva).

Spiritual education is the key to progress on the Spiritual path.

Try to understand this material world is NOT our home, and that this  material energy is always in a state of decay and decline and eventually rots away, but we (the jiva-soul) are NOT these decaying rotting bodies.

Try to understand these important points because they are the real truth about the temporary decaying material creation we are presently in and foolishly trying to make it our home.

The goal of this rare human species is to use it in a way that helps us find our freedom from material energy, and RETURN back home back to Godhead with Krsna.^*^.































Saturday, January 23, 2021

"Free will" is always part and parcel of the individual marginal living entities (jiva soul's) eternal spiritual constitution that they have always had. Love can ONLY exists when there is a "two way" exchange of feelings and service.

If Krsna had absolute control over the marginal living entities (individual jiva souls) "ever thoughts and actions", then that version of the "Kingdom of God" or "Goloka Vṛndāvana and Vaikuntha" would be an "impersonalists mindless loveless paradise"

Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, He is the Supreme controller of ALL things meaning nothing can take place without His sanction and approval first as explained in Bhagavad Gita As It Is.

However, Krishna DOES allow "free will" simply for the purpose of allowing the jiva souls to have the opportunity to voluntarily contribute and provide their own unique offerings, that enables them to experience their own "personal" loving exchanges with Krishna as the independent thoughtful contributing individual "PERSON" they are eternally.

The fact is, love is NEVER a one sided, one way affair, love is ALWAYS based on a character building loving relationship of warm exchanges expressed in a "two way" mood of reciprocation.

Therefore the jiva souls WITHOUT free will, would be just mindless emotionless drones in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan where their every thought and action is fully controlled by Narayana on the Vaikuntha Planets, and Krishna in Goloka Vrindavan.

This makes them no more than dead stone Prabhupada has said.

And this is also another aspect of impersonalism.

Having "free will" is always part and parcel of the marginal living entities eternal spiritual constitution. 

Without "free will" within a "two way" reciprocal relationship with Krishna, we are no better than dead emotionless stone.

Lord Krishna IS the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes however, this does not mean the jiva soul becomes Krishna's "mindless slave servant" or some useless impersonal inactive "atom" on His Lotus feet as some foolish devotees may desire.

Such nonsense bogus so called "surrender" is really trying to extinguish one's individuality of being an active "person" that the jiva soul is originally and eternally.

The jiva soul's in their full potential are a perpetual svarupa spiritual bodily two armed form in their original position in Goloka Vrindavana.

Therefore being Krishna's eternal associate does not mean one must give up, or surrender their free will, sense of independent self, personality and individuality and be a mindless drone in either Goloka Vrindavana or Vaikuntha.

The fact is, Krishna allows "free will" for the purpose of allowing the jiva soul to make THEIR own choices on how to serve Him by voluntarily offering their own unique contributions without being forced too or dictated too by Krishna.

It must be this way otherwise loving exchanges cannot exist.

Ultimately the relationship between Krishna and the individual jiva soul in Goloka Vrindavana, can only work when based on a "two way" relationship of self expression, reciprocation, loving exchanges and personal choices. 

Loving service can only exist when the jiva soul voluntarily "chooses" their own personal contributions and offerings to Krishna expressed in a "two-way" relationship of reciprocation between Krishna and the jiva soul.

A relationship "between two" can ONLY experience love and that is why Krishna gave the jiva souls their freedom (free will) that is only fully expressed, experienced and realized in the Spiritual Worlds.

Surrendering to Krishna is enriched and further enhanced by the jiva soul's personal unique loving contributions of service that increase and magnify the relationship of loving exchanges and reciprocation eternally between Krishna and the jiva soul.

Krishna gave the jiva souls their freedom (free will) so there CAN be a "two-way" voluntary relationship of personal unique loving exchanges in a different way with each individual jiva soul.

It is not "all one" (everyone thinks the same like a programmed machine) in Krishna's Kingdom of Goloka Vrindavana, or Vishnu's Vaikuntha Planets because each jiva soul is a living person with their own feeings and sense of self that is independent from Krishna's Personality.

Therefore REAL love is an exchange between Krishna's Personality and the individual jiva soul's personality.

And no two jiva souls are the same.

The individual persons in the Spiritual Sky are unlimited, each with their own unique mood of expression on all the different Spiritual Planets.

Love can NEVER be one, love must ALWAYS be allowed to be a "two way street", only then can real love exist.

This is what servant - master relationship MUST be based on for love to truly work in a selfless "loving" way.

The fact is, "real love, service or surrender" can NEVER exist in just a "one way", one sided or one directional mood without having voluntary exchanges or feelings in a "two way" relationship. 

Love ONLY exists in a two way exchange.

The fact is, without "free will" and the right to choose for one's self in this "two way" relationship, the jiva soul is no better than dead emotionless stone Prabhupada has told us.

Therefore even being a "mindless atom" in Krishna's lotus feet as some have prayed, is actually impersonalism and Mayavadi philosophy.

This is because one is attempting to extinguish their individual identity and become inactive which is NOT the eternal "devotional serving" nature of the jiva soul.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Krishna does not want to force the jiva soul to surrender to Him, if He did then that is NOT love, it is exploitation and abuse.

Srila Prabhupada  - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver". (Washington DC July 1976)

What Srila Prabhupada explains here is a very important point to understand-

Srila Prabhupada - ”So even if I desire ‘Why shall I serve Krishna? Why not become Krishna?’ then I immediately fall down. 

Vipina Purandara - “Why doesn’t Krishna protect us from that desire?

Srila Prabhupada - “He’s protecting. He says, “You rascal, don’t desire like that. Surrender unto Me.” But you are rascal; you do not do this”.

Vipina Purandara - “Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Loving relationships can only exist in the Spiritual World when ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there is a respectful nurturing relationship between two, between Krishna and His disciples the jiva souls-

Srila Prabhupāda – ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there". (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - “Unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately each individual soul is a unique PERSON who can choose for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him if they want.

As Prabhupada explains, Krishna NEVER forces the jiva soul to surrender to Him, never forces them to love Him, that MUST be voluntary otherwise love can NEVER exist without voluntary reciprocal exchanges.

If Krishna had absolute control over the marginal living entities "ever thoughts and actions", then that version of the "Kingdom of God" or "Goloka Vṛndāvana and Vaikuntha" would be an "impersonalists mindless loveless cold hearted paradise"

Therefore ultimately within the most intense loving emotional exchanges between the Lord and the jiva souls, there is ALWAYS free will, there are always individual choices of expression because without free will, there can NEVER be any loving voluntary exchanges of good feelings.

If the jiva souls do not have the freedom to think for themselves independently, then how can love exist? 

No, it is not possible without free will because love is a very personal  unique expression of feelings shared voluntary with one's beloved.

Sharing one's unique personality and individuality with the object of one's love, Krishna. Therefore without having "choices" in the jiva soul's relationship with Krishna, there can be no question of love.

This is because if it is just a one sided affair with no imput from the jiva soul too, then how can their be genuine love?

This idea of Krishna completely taking over the jiva soul's free will, in the name of surrender and denying any independent thoughful contributions from the jiva souls, is nonsense impersonal that many foolish bogus gurus teach their naive disciples today.

Love is only possible when it is allowed to be governed by voluntary self expression in a reciprocal relationship between "two individuals", the jiva soul and Krishna.

This loving reciprocation is always expressed in its full potential in either Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan but covered in the material creation where free will is so covered over, it almost does not exist there.

And certainly not in the lower species of life in the material creation where instinct is in control and NOT free will.

Also it is foolish and total nonsense to think Krishna overides and extinguishes the jiva soul's "free will and individuality" when they enter Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan.

One should understand that being part and parcel of Krishna means the jiva souls can etenally make independent choices for themselves in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan while serving of Krishna, that some immature devotees still have not understood properly.

This is because real love (prema) or devotional service, is ONLY possible when the relationship is between two reciprocating with each other.

So let's be clear, loving relationships in the Spiritual World are ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there is a caring respectful nurturing relationship between two, between Krishna and His disciples the jiva souls.

Srila Prabhupāda – ''Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there". (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Ultimately each individual jiva soul is a unique PERSON who can choose for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him they want.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krishna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne June 25, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

Krishna very rarely interferes with the free will of the jiva souls.

Srila Prabhupada - ''As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice," "Yes," Kṛṣṇa says, "yes, you go." Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will''. (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Krishna allows the jiva souls to be independent individuals with free will allowing them to freely contribute their very best in a two way relationship of loving exchanges.

Also the ability to choose "this side (the Spiritual Worlds) or that side (the Material creation)" is what makes freedom real. 

As Prabhupada has said, having free will also means one can reject Krishna if they choose to do so. 

Freedom means one can reject God if they choose to do so or can accept Him if they choose.

Krishna allows the living entities to have this freedom because if THEY make their own choices to express their love for Krishna from their own free will, then that is having a voluntary "two way" relationship.  

This is better than being surrounded by "living entities or jiva souls" that are like "mindless drones" who are always impersonally programmed to worship Krishna unconditionally.

Such a relationship is NOT love because love can NEVER exist in a one-way expression or in a "one-side" domineering dictatorial relationship.  

This means loving selfless service can only exist between "two living persons" in a "two-way" relationship of loving exchanges as said above.

If Krishna is surrounded by none thinking Robots or Androids (yes men and women) doing all that He wants, then that is certainly NOT love because love cannot exist with dead machines.
















Saturday, January 16, 2021

"Real love" can only exist when there are "two" involved in a trade off based on a reciprocal relationship founded on loving exchanges and reciprocation.

"Love" between the devotee, Guru and Krishna is NEVER selfish, inconsiderate, forceful or impersonal.

This means loving expressions can NEVER exist in a "one-way" dictatorial forceful relationship of just obeying in Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha.

This is because loving devotion, obedience, trust and loyalty between Krishna and His devotee is NEVER a "one-way" street in the Spiritual Planets.

"Real love" can only exist when there are "two" involved in a trade off based on a reciprocal relationship founded on loving exchanges and reciprocation.

A "Loving relationship" with Krishna is NEVER founded on a demanding forceful relationship based on being mindlessly obedient and always told what to do and just obey without personal offerings of inputs and intelligent inquiry.

This kind of "impersonal surrender" is dangerous because the personality and character of the individual jiva soul's natural marginal attributes, are suppressed due to denying the jiva soul's their natural ability of self expression, independent thinking and personal contributions in the Spiritual World or the Kingdom of God (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha)

"Free will" in its full potential ONLY fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and is greatly restricted in the material creation to the point it almost does not exist (only existing in a limited minor way in the Human species)

It certainly does NOT exist in the lower species of life numbering 8 million species.

In regards to the expression of love Prabhupada says this -

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange. When these things are transacted, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things MUST be there''. (Evening Darsana, August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Those in leadership who claim you do not even need to think for your self claiming they will do the thinking for you, are bogus dictatorial impersonalists and bullies and MUST be rejected.

"Real love" and genuine selfless service is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" exchange of feelings that means individual contributions, personal inputs that can only be genuine when the jiva soul can express their own independent individuality of free will. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krishna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Surrendering to Krishna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal, it does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The Spiritual Worlds are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless totalitarian place for the individual jiva souls with their relationship with Krishna. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not like that, there is ALWAYS loving exchanges of feelings and service based on reciprocation between Krishna and His devotees.

Without "free will" and the ability to reciprocate, the jiva soul or marginal living entity, is no better than dead stone that can never receive or give love.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

The Spiritual world's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges and cooperation between Krishna and His devotees, it is NEVER a "one way" demanding forceful relationship.       

Ultimately we are all Krishna's servant and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our "free will" and "individuality" to be Krishna's friend and servant.

The conclusion is, of course "free will" DOES exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha as part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva soul).

And yes, Krishna ALWAYS allows "free will" because if He didn't, then loving exchanges can never exist.

The fact is if Krishna denied the jiva soul's their "free will", then they can NEVER experience love or know what love is because ultimately love is a "two way" exchange of feelings, it is NEVER a "one way" street.

Those emotions expressed in a "one way" mood without having any exchange between two, is NOT love at all, it is selfishness, and is really impersonalism.

Therefore without "free will", without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krishna, the jiva soul will NEVER experience wonderful loving exchanges based on reciprocation and personal unique individual contributions to Krishna.

“Free will” or the ability to “choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and ALWAYS exists without beginning or end in ALL  the Spiritual Planets.

Therefore freedom or "free will" means the jiva soul can choose to serve Krishna, or even reject Him if they want, it is their choice. 

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – “So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately each individual soul is a unique person who can choose for themselves to voluntarily serve Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him. 

As Prabhupada explains, Krishna never forces you to surrender to Him, never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary.

Srila Prabhupada – “Krishna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne June 25, 1974)

The amazing thing is, Krishna ALWAYS serves His pure devotees far more than they can EVER serve Him!!.**










Thursday, January 14, 2021

Garbhodakashayi Visnu's inner material universe is surrounded by and encased in a greater material universe called a Brahmanda.

All Brahmanda universes originate from Maha-Visnu along with unlimited others, as seen in painting below.

All of Maha-Visnu's Brahmanda universes originate from His breathing and the pores of His skin and populate 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky called the temporary material creation. 

3/4 of the Spiritual Sky has no decaying material mundane Brahmandas but has eternal spiritual planets called Vaikuntha Planets and the central Goloka Vrindavana abode of Radha and Kṛṣṇa, where no old age, disease or death takes place.

Deep inside, each massive Brahmanda universe created by Maha-Visnu is a "secondary universe" where He expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu.

Each Brahmanda universe is quadrillions of miles in diameter. 

From Garbhodakasayi Visnu inside His material univers inside each Brahmanda, a Lord Brahma appears from Garbhodakashayi Visnu and builds the planetary systems in His particular inner material universe.

Our material universe inside our Brahmanda is only 4 billion miles in diameter according to Srimad Bhagavatam; however, other universes deep inside their Brahmandas are many, many different bigger.

This also means there is only one Maha-Visnu in the material creation; however, there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus and Lord Brahmas.

Both Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Brahma are within their own "secondary universe," of which there are billions of them as explained above.

As said above, each secondary universe is surrounded by and encased in a massive outer universe shell known as a Brahmanda.*.