Friday, July 23, 2021

The "Sun-disc" and the "sun-rays" both only exist when together but there is a difference between the two, the molecules of the sun-rays are not equal to the molecules of the Sun-disc, similarly the jiva-souls are not equal with Krsna.

Here, Krsna is compared to the Sun-disc and the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are compared to the surrounding sun-rays or sunshine.

Just like the "sun-rays" are not equal to the "Sun-disc", similarly, not even the various varieties of Krsna's direct Visnu-tattva expansions also are NOT equal to Krsna, except for Krsna's eternal consort Srimati Radharani.

By this example we can also understand that the Sun-disc and the sun-rays can NEVER be separated or exist without each other. 

In other words, Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, is ALWAYS surrounded by His parts and parcels (the various kinds of living entities that are in two categories, Viṣṇu-tattva and jiva-tattva [jiva-souls]) and can NEVER be separated from them.

Srila Prabhupada – "In the Padma Purana, wherein it is said that there are two kinds of spiritual entities; one is called the jiva-tattva, and the other is called the Visnu-tattva." (87th Chapter Krsna Book, Prayers by the Personified Vedas)

Srila Prabhupada - "The jiva-souls are simultaneously one with Krsna and Rādhā yet at the same time different." (lecture in Montreal, June 10, 1968)

All living entities ARE expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Krsna, who has simultaneously expanded Himself as His various individual parts and parcels.

As said above, the various types of living entities number in two categories, Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva or jiva-souls.

From the Sun-disc, the sun-rays are maintained and exist simultaneously as an extension of the Sun-disc, similarly this also means Krsna and the living entities can NEVER exist without each other. 

This further means Krsna is fully complete AS Himself, who can NEVER be alone because Krsna is EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING resides in Him.

Krsna is ALWAYS enjoying with His unlimited expansions who are eternally His parts and parcels, just like the Sun-disc is always surrounded by the sun-rays,  similarly Krsna is always surrounded by His parts and parcels.  

And just like it is impossible for the Sun-disc to exist without the sun-rays, similarly it is impossible for Kṛṣṇa to exist without His loving devotees headed by Srimati Radharani.

Therefore, just like the Sun-disc has no meaning without the sun-rays, similarly Krsna has no meaning without His devotees (parts and parcels) therefore it is impossible to separate Kṛṣṇa from His parts and parcels.

The possibility of Krsna being without His devotees (expansions) can NEVER exist because there was never a time Krsna and the living entities did not exist together Bhagavad Gita teaches, Chapter 2 Text 12.

Bhagavad Gita - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG 2.12)

The jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa have always existed and were NEVER created.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)

The reason why Krsna is fully complete within Himself is understood in this way-

Krsna is NEVER alone as one, and has never been alone as one,p1¹ Krsna is always in the company of two because loving exchanges and reciprocation can only exists in a relationship between two.

This means Krsna is "simultaneously" one individual Personality, and at the same time "many Personalities" but inconceivable different from all of them.

Krsna therefore is simultaneously one and different from all there is.

This means He can NEVER be alone because He is already EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING is always part and parcel of Him.

Kṛṣṇa's closest associate is His eternal consort Srimati Rādhārāṇī who represents His internal potency. Radharani eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, so how can Kṛṣṇa ever be alone? 

All the devotees of Krsna must win the attention of Srimati Radharani to get Krsna's attention, as all service to Krsna only reaches Him by going through Her.

Srila Prabhupada - "I offer my respects to Rādhārāṇī, whose bodily complexion is like molten gold and who is the Queen of Vṛndāvana. You are the daughter of King Vṛṣabhānu very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa. 

So if we approach Kṛṣṇa through Rādhārāṇī, through the mercy of Rādhārāṇī, then it becomes very easy. If Rādhārāṇī recommends that "This devotee is very nice," then Kṛṣṇa immediately accepts, however fool I may be. 

Because it is recommended by Rādhārāṇī, Kṛṣṇa accepts. Therefore, in Vṛndāvana you'll find all the devotees, they're chanting more Rādhārāṇī's name than Kṛṣṇa's. Wherever you'll go, you'll find the devotees are addressing, "Jaya Rādhe." You'll find still in Vṛndāvana. They are glorifying Rādhārāṇī. They're more interested, worshiping Rādhārāṇī. 

Because however fallen I may be, if some way or other I can please Rādhārāṇī, then it is very easy for me to understand Kṛṣṇa. However, if you go by the speculative process to understand Kṛṣṇa, it will take many, many lives. But if you take devotional service, by just trying to please Rādhārāṇī, then Kṛṣṇa will be won over very easily. 

Because Rādhārāṇī can deliver Kṛṣṇa. She is such a great devotee, the emblem of mahā-bhāgavata. Even Kṛṣṇa cannot understand what is Rādhārāṇī's quality. Even Kṛṣṇa, although He says vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26), "I know everything," still, He fails to understand Rādhārāṇī. Rādhārāṇī is so great.

Actually, Kṛṣṇa knows everything but in order to understand Rādhārāṇī, Kṛṣṇa accepted the position of Rādhārāṇī. Kṛṣṇa wanted to understand the potency of Rādhārāṇī. Kṛṣṇa thought that "I am full. I am complete in every respect, but still, I want to understand Rādhārāṇī". 

Why is this so?

This propensity made Kṛṣṇa obliged to accept the propensities of Rādhārāṇī, to understand Kṛṣṇa, Himself. These are, of course, very transcendental, great science. One who is advanced in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and well conversant with the śāstras, they can understand. But still, we can discuss from the śāstra. 

When Kṛṣṇa wanted to understand Himself, He took the tendency of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. And that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Rādhā-bhāva-dyuti-suvalitam. Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa, but He has accepted the propensities of Rādhārāṇī. As Rādhārāṇī is always in feelings of separation of Kṛṣṇa, similarly, in the position of Rādhārāṇī, Lord Caitanya was feeling separation of Kṛṣṇa. 

This is the teachings of Lord Caitanya, feelings of separation, not meeting. The process of devotional service taught by Caitanya Mahāprabhu and His disciplic succession is how to feel separation from Kṛṣṇa. This is Rādhārāṇī's position, ALWAYS feeling the separation."(Radhastami, Srimati Radharani's Appearance Day, London, Aug 29, 1971)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy. Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. 

When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. 

Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Does the original Kṛṣṇa in Vṛndāvana ever leave Vṛndāvana?

Srila Prabhupada - "When Kṛṣṇa kills the demons outside Vṛndāvana, He is not original Kṛṣṇa; He is Vāsudeva (Visnu-tattva). Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19). When Kṛṣṇa is acting universally, that is Vāsudeva (Visnu-tattva). The original Kṛṣṇa is ALWAYS in Vṛndāvana."

Jayatīrtha - "If the original Kṛṣṇa is always in Vṛndāvana, then why do the gopīs and Rādhārāṇī feel separation from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That is here, in this material world. In the spiritual world Kṛṣṇa does not leave."

Jayatīrtha - "Oh."

Srila Prabhupāda - "And even in the material world, Kṛṣṇa superficially has gone to Mathurā, but He has captured the heart of the gopīs. So He is not leaving. Gopīs are enjoying Kṛṣṇa by separation. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's feeling, how He is appreciating Kṛṣṇa by separation." (Morning Walk, July 17, 1975, San Francisco)

Guest - "What category is Radharani in?"

Srila Prabhupada - "She is śakti, Cit-śakti. Bhagavān ke pleasure potency. Śakti, śakti-tattva, Śaktimān. Bhagavān is Śaktimān, and that śakti is Rādhārāṇī or Sītā or Lakṣmī. Durgā is also śakti, another feature of Rādhārāṇī."

Guest - "Śakti in original form is Rādhā?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, Parāsya śaktih..., parāsya śaktir vividhaiva śrūyate (CC Madhya 13.65, purport). Originally cit-śakti. That cit-śakti is expanding. Just like we are..., rāmādi mūrtiṣu kalā-niyamena tiṣṭhan (Bs. 5.39). Kalā means part and parcel. So we are also part and parcel, but we are very small part and parcel. But rāmādi mūrti, they are bigger part and parcel. Just like if you throw one brick on the floor, so there will be so many small particles, big particles, this particle, that. 

They are all part and parcel of the brick, but one part very small atomic part, and one big part, this part, this part, then this part, then this part. 

So all, Kṛṣṇa is the origin, and everyone is part and parcel. Some of them are bigger and some of them are smaller. So Viṣṇu-tattva is almost like Kṛṣṇa."

Guest - "Like Kṛṣṇa?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Others, they are very small. So according to the size, or according to the power."

Guest - "Power?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "The part and parcel exercises his position. Some of them are Viṣṇu-tattva, some of them are Jīva-tattva, some of them are Śakti-tattva and some of them para-tattva. Like that."

Guest - "Para-tattva?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Para-tattva is Bhagavān. Para-tattva means Kṛṣṇa, Rāma, Nārāyaṇa, Viṣṇu. These are all para-tattva. Bhagavān avatāra, rāmā, nṛsiṁha, varāha, kūrma, vāmana, daśāvatāra, all avatāra. Or śakti-tattva, material energy, aparā-tattva, matter. 

Similarly cit-tattva is spiritual world. The living entities, although they are in the material world, they belong to the spiritual world. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, apareyam. This material energy is inferior. Itas viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām. Beyond this material world is another, superior energy that includes jīva-bhūta and jiva-tattva." (Room Conversation, Nov 11, 1971, New Delhi)

This is the fullness of Lord Krsna.

This is why Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes because He is EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING is in Him.

Krsna is fully satisfied in Himself, that includes enjoying through all of His expansions that are His parts and parcels. Krsna is ALWAYS with His marginal living entities (jiva-souls).

The fact is all Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva expansions are part and parcel of Krsna, just like the sun-rays and part and parcel of the Sun-disc.

In other words, Krsna is NEVER alone just like the Sun-disc can never be alone due to the presence of the surrounding sun-rays. 

Krsna is compared to the Sun-disc and the different types of living entities are compared to the sun-rays.

The Sun-disc and the sun-rays cannot exist without each other, similarly Krsna is always surrounded by His parts and parcels and has no meaning without them.

In this way, Krsna IS the Supreme Lord and simultaneously one with all that there is, BUT also different and independent from all of His expansions too.

However, Krsna CANNOT exist separately "alone" without His devotees headed by Srimati Radharani.

Krsna and Radharani can NEVER be divided or separated.

Krsna's eternal consort Srimati Rādhārāṇī is the manifestation of Krsna's pleasure potency.

Guest - "Srila Prabhupāda, are we expansions of Rādhā?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, Rādhā is the internal potency, we are marginal potency. Of course, originally, in that sense, everything is Kṛṣṇa's expansion. Sarvaṁ khalv idaṁ brahma. But even there are expansions... That is the difference between Māyāvāda philosophy and Vaiṣṇava philosophy. 

Caitanya Mahāprabhu teaches acintya bhedābheda. We are always simultaneously one and different. Always. We should remember. We are expansion of Kṛṣṇa, we are expansion of Rādhā also because Rādhā is also expansion of Kṛṣṇa. But still, different. That is our philosophy- 

"One and different simultaneously - Acintya bhedābheda."

Caitanya Mahāprabhu's philosophy is inconceivable simultaneously one and different. This is explained in the Seventh Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā. The energies and the energetic is the same. Śakti-śaktimator abheda.

Just like sun and the sunshine, they are the same. There is no difference. But the molecules of the sunshine particles, that is not equal to the sun. These truths we shall always remember. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvāḥ. Therefore these are inconceivable. We are simultaneously one with Kṛṣṇa and Rādhā, and at the same time different." (Lecture on BG 4.5 - Montreal, June 10, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are "one and the same", but They have assumed two bodies. Thus They enjoy each other, tasting the mellows of love. The two transcendentalists Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are a puzzle to materialists. The description of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa from the diary of Śrīla Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī is a condensed explanation, but one needs great spiritual insight to understand the mystery of these two personalities.

One is enjoying in two.

Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the potent factor, and Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency. According to Vedānta philosophy, there is no difference between the potent and the potency; they are identical. We cannot differentiate between one and the other, any more than we can separate fire from heat.

Everything in the Absolute is inconceivable in relative existence. Therefore in relative cognizance it is very difficult to assimilate this truth of the oneness between the potent and the potency. The philosophy of inconceivable oneness and difference propounded by Lord Caitanya is the only source of understanding for such intricacies of transcendence.

In fact, Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and She eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 

Impersonalists cannot understand this without the help of a mahā-bhāgavata devotee. 

The very name “Rādhā” suggests that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is eternally the topmost mistress of the comforts of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. As such, She is the medium transmitting the living entities’ service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Devotees in Vṛndāvana therefore seek the mercy of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in order to be recognized as loving servitors of Śrī Kṛṣṇa." (CC, Adi 4.56, Translation and Purport)

All the devotees of Krsna must win the attention of Radharani to get Krsna's attention, as all service to Krsna only reaches Krsna by going through Her.

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī." (SB Canto 3 Ch 31 text 38 Purport)

Krsna divided Himself into "two" so He could experience loving exchanges. 

For even Krsna, love can NEVER exist when there is just "one", there MUST be two, His expansions like Srimati Radharani and His Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva expansions.

To experience the ultimate loving exchanges and emotions with a women, Krsna divided Himself into two. 

Therefore Srimati Radharani and Krsna are one.

Krsna wanted to experience loving emotions and affection, this is why He divided Himself into two separate bodily Forms - Radha and Krsna, just so He could experience equal loving exchanges.

So how to understand Srimati Radharani?

Madhudviṣa Swami - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you spoke of inferior energy and superior energy. Those are two general categories. Are there other categories of energies besides that, and specifically how could we understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī Is She?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "She is spiritual energy."

Madhudviṣa Swami - "But is She jīva-bhūta or?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, She is Kṛṣṇa. If everything is Kṛṣṇa and Rādhārāṇī is not Kṛṣṇa, what is that? Kṛṣṇa. He (She) is Kṛṣṇa. She is the Kṛṣṇa's pleasure potency."

Madhudviṣa Swami - "She is not jīva-soul?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no, no. She is Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa divided Himself into His energy and Himself. That energy, original spiritual energy, is Rādhārāṇī. That is stated by Jīva Gosvāmī. Rādhā kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmāt. When Kṛṣṇa wants pleasure, He cannot accept the inferior energy. 

The same superior energy, Kṛṣṇa, is divided into two. That is Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. And again, when they unite, that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

Divided, they are Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, and united, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya rādhā-kṛṣṇa nahe anya. Anya means another. 

So Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya is combination of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. And when they are divided into two, that is Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. 

This is the purport. Rādhā kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmād ekātmānāv api bhuvi purā deha-bhedaṁ gatau tau, śrī-caitanyākhyaṁ prakaṭam adhunā tad-dvayaṁ caikyam āptam [Cc. Ādi 1.5]. 

These are the conclusion. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa combination. But He is playing the part of Rādhārāṇī to understand Kṛṣṇa. 

This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

Rādhārāṇī is the chief gopī and all Her young girl friends, they are also gopīs." (Lecture on SB, Canto 1 Ch 1-5 - Melb, Australia June 26, 1974)

Caitanya Caritamrita - "Rādhikā is the transformation of Kṛṣṇa’s love. She is His internal energy called hlādinī." (CC, Adi 4.59 Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "Radharani's mind, senses and body are steeped in love for Kṛṣṇa. She is Kṛṣṇa’s own energy, and She helps Him in His pastimes. 

Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is as fully spiritual as Kṛṣṇa. No one should consider Her to be material. She is definitely not like the conditioned souls, who have material bodies, gross and subtle, covered by material senses. She is all-spiritual, and both Her body and Her mind are of the same spiritual embodiment. 

Because Her body is spiritual, Her senses are also spiritual. Thus Her body, mind and senses fully shine in love of Kṛṣṇa. She is the personified hlādinī-śakti (the pleasure-giving energy of the Lord’s internal potency), and therefore She is the only source of enjoyment for Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Śrī Kṛṣṇa cannot enjoy anything that is internally different from Him. 

Therefore Srimati Rādhārani and Śrī Kṛṣṇa are identical. 

The sandhinī portion of Śrī Kṛṣṇa’s internal potency has manifested the all-attractive form of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and the same internal potency, in the hlādinī feature, has presented Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, who is the attraction for the all-attractive. No one can match Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in the transcendental pastimes of Śrī Kṛṣṇa." (CC, Adi 4.71, Translation and Purport)

Caitanya Caritamrita - "Just as the fountainhead, Lord Kṛṣṇa, is the cause of all incarnations, so Śrī Rādhā is the cause of all these consorts." (CC Adi 4.76, Translation)

Caitanya Caritamrita - "Rādhā is the one who gives pleasure to Govinda, and She is also the enchantress of Govinda. She is the be-all and end-all of Govinda, and the crest jewel of all His consorts." (CC, Adi 4.82, Translation)

Caitanya Caritamrita - "The transcendental goddess Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the direct counterpart of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa. She is the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. She possesses all the attractiveness to attract the all-attractive Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of the Lord." (CC Adi 4.83, Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. 

That woman is Rādhārāṇī. 

It is explained by the Gosvāmīs that Rādhārāṇī is the manifestation of the pleasure potency of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. When the Supreme Lord wants to derive transcendental pleasure, He has to create a woman from His internal potency and that women is Srimati Radharani." (SB Canto 3 Ch 31 text 38, Purport)

Krsna divided Himself into "two" just so He could experience loving exchanges with a women and gave Her the name Srimati Radharani. Love can only exist when there are "two or more" involved in loving reciprocations and exchanges. 

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be "one" or love cannot be executed only one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture on SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

However, Krsna is ALWAYS complete in Himself and is NEVER alone because within Krsna energies are EVERYWHERE, and therefore can become two personalities or more anytime likes.

For example, Krsna is always enjoying in Vrindavana with His consort Srimati Radharani, who Krsna created by dividing Himself into two, just so He could experience loving exchanges with a women.

In this way Krsna is "FULLY COMPLETE" as Himself due to enjoying unlimited pastimes with-

1 - With His internal energy headed by Srimati Radharani who is none different than Krsna.

2 - His Visnu-tattva expansions (unlimited Visnu/Narayana expansions including Balarama who is Kṛṣṇa's first expansion and from whom all other Visnu expansions expand from.

Both Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas and Visnu-tattvas have 93.75% of Krsna’s qualities which is having 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

The above two categories ARE direct expansions of Krsna where He is playing a different role in His own pastimes.

3 - His Siva-tattva expansions who can be many personalities who are actually expansions of Siva) 

4 - His jiva-tattva (jiva-souls) expansions (marginal living entities (individual jiva-tattva-souls) who are all endowed with free will and a personality separate from Krsna's Personality.

These two (Siva-tattva and jiva-tattva) are NOT God (Krsna or Visnu) meaning they are NOT Visnu-"sakti"-tattva (internal potency) or Visnu-tattva (Visnu/Narayana expansions). 

Siva has 85.938% of Krsna's qualities, having 55 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

The jiva-souls have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities having 50 of Krsns's 64 attributes.

Both Siva and the jiva-souls have independent personalities separate from Krsns's Personality, so they can NEVER be God like Visnu or Krsna.

However, they are ALWAYS dependent on Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and maintainer and cause of ALL causes. 

These living entities manifest as different categories of Krsna's energies but can NEVER be separated from Krsna, just like the sun-rays can NEVER be separated from the Sun-disc.

But His greatest pleasure comes from Srimati Radharani His eternal consort and internal potency.

Krsna is NEVER alone due to EVERYTHING being completely situated within Him. 

Krsna is simultaneously one and different from His energies, as an independent individual Person, and as His different expansions also. 

Krsna is EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING is part and parcel of Krsna.

This is the top most realization of Krsna's full potential as the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, who is naturally fully satisfied in Himself because EVERYTHING is Him including Srimati Radharani.

Yet simultaneously different from Him like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays, making Krsna fully complete and NEVER alone.

This obviously means ALL His different expansions such as Visnu-tattva, Visnu-"sakti"-tattva and jiva-tattva (jiva-souls), are His part and parcels.

Krsna IS the Supreme Personal Lord (God) as His own individual bodily (vigraha) Form, yet simultaneously expands as ALL other living entities too, who expand from Him like the sun-rays surround the Sun-disc.

For example-

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are "one and the same", but They have assumed two bodies. Thus They enjoy each other, tasting the mellows of love. One is enjoying in two, we cannot differentiate between one and the other, any more than we can separate fire from heat.

The philosophy of inconceivable oneness and difference propounded by Lord Caitanya is the only source of understanding for such intricacies of transcendence. 

In fact, Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and She eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Impersonalists cannot understand this without the help of a mahā-bhāgavata devotee. 

The very name “Rādhā” suggests that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is eternally the topmost mistress of the comforts of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. As such, She is the medium transmitting the living entities’ service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Devotees in Vṛndāvana therefore seek the mercy of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in order to be recognized as loving servitors of Śrī Kṛṣṇa." (CC, Adi 4.56, Translation and Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī." (SB, Canto 3 Ch 31 text 38 Purport)+++




















Tuesday, July 20, 2021

Each individual jiva-soul (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind independent PERSON with their own unique spiritual bodily form and personality separate from all other personalities, including Krsna.p

No two jiva-souls are the same. The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are "personal" places made up of individual living entities serving Krsna, and not a "one" all-pervasive "impersonal" consciousness that are only individual persons when embodied, no, such nonsense impersonalism does not exist in the spiritual world.

Genuine devotional service to Krsna is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" exchange of personal expressions and feelings that manifest as loving acts of reciprocation between Krsna and His pure devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique (one of a kind) expressions of devotion as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will.

Loving exchanges and free will are not possible on a a "one-way" street, there MUST be "two."

Without this basic rule of having loving exchanges in the spiritual planets, then there can NEVER be genuine love or service within one's relationship with Krsna.

Emotions expressed "one-way" without personal contributions that expands and enriches loving affection and sentiment, only experienced in a "two-way" exchange, is NOT love at all, it is selfishness and impersonalism.

The spiritual world's of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are NOT a dictatorial "one-sided" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding dictatorship that denies loving reciprocal relationships between two, which is a voluntary participation that includes personal contributions and self expression being always encouraged, instead of allowing a God to do all the thinking and decision making for you.

No, the spiritual planets are NOT a horrible impersonal emotionally dead place like that.

The fact is, in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) there are ALWAYS loving exchanges, voluntary cooperation and contributions going on that enrich, expand and ad mystery to one's unique relationship with Krsna.

In the spiritual world, personal unique contributions based on "free will," is the bases of life there.

There is always loving enriching contributing actions reciprocated with Krsna going on because without these attributes there can never be love.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Therefore "loyalty" is ALWAYS a "two-way" street where the jiva-souls have their own unique individual personality separate from Krsna's Personality, who adds their own personal unique expressions into the relationship that expands and forever enhances and enriches one's friendship with Krsna. 

Krsna will NEVER "force" us to do what we do not "choose" to do in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana because we are NOT Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women or slave.

Krsna does not control the surrender jiva-souls in every way like a puppet master controls his puppets with the movement of strings, denying self expression and individual contributions. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So, clearly surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal, it does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana,  are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless place for the individual jiva-souls in their relationship with Krsna or God. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not like that in anyway, there is ALWAYS voluntary loving exchanges of feelings and emotions going on based on reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6.1.1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

One's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom, is NEVER a "one-sided" master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as explained above, Prabhupada is telling us here.

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever voluntarily expanding the expression of their individuality with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings based on free will that make them the PERSONS they are eternally.

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture on SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture on BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Their impersonalist philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on SB Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, it is NEVER a "one way street" where surrender to Krsna takes away one's sense of self, free will, individuality and one's personal contributions of voluntary offerings in Krsna's Abode.

Each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality (yet simultaneously dependent on Krsna), separate from Krsna's Personality, which means having their own personality and sense of self, their own "unique identity" that they individually each have.  

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul) making each of them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.

"Free will" in its full potential, is ONLY fully experienced in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavan, which are the jiva-souls original perpetual home.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Bali Mardana - "An example of free will is someone can choose Kṛṣṇa or turn away? Is that an example of free will?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, because if you accept Kṛṣṇa, then you must follow what Kṛṣṇa says. If you don't follow Kṛṣṇa, then what is the use of talking of Kṛṣṇa? If he accepts Kṛṣṇa, he must abide by the injunction of Kṛṣṇa."(Morning Walk, Jan 22, 1974, Hawaii)

Vipina Purandara - “Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me. Is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Krsna does NOT want followers who deny others their right to choose for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna by offering their own unique personal contributions, or even rejecting Krsna if they choose as Prabhupada explains.

There is always a choice and that is why free will ALWAYS exists in God's Kingdom otherwise we are no better than dead emotionless stone.

The spiritual world's of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges and cooperation between Krsna and His devotees, it is NEVER a "one way" demanding forceful relationship.  

Ultimately we are all Krsna's servant and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our "free will" and "individuality" to be Krsna's friend and servant.

The conclusion is, free will MUST exist in Goloka-Vrindavana if voluntary unique self expression is to exist.  

This individual quality is part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul) otherwise how can there be unique voluntary contributing acts of genuine loving devotion and exchanges with Krsna?

In other words, Krsna ALWAYS allows "free will" because if He didn't, then loving exchanges and personal contributions can NEVER exist!

And that is what you call loveless impersonalism. 

This is why the jiva-souls MUST  have their free will if they are to experience voluntary loving exchanges and reciprocation with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction EVERYTHING is happening because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes. 

However, for Him to experience genuine loving exchanges, Krsna must allow the jiva-souls to voluntary participate in a "two-way" loving relationship.  

In other words, Krsna MUST allow free will.

So, Krsna must also give His approval for the jiva-souls to have their free will too. 

The fact is, if Krsna denied the jiva-soul's their "free will" then we are no better than dead useless mindless stone Prabhupada clearly tells us.

Without free will, the jiva-souls can NEVER experience loving exchanges or emotions because ultimately love is a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings experienced when there are voluntary contributions between two, that can only happen if there is free will.

Both loving exchanges and free will are NEVER possible when there is just "one" there must be "two"

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is "oneness," so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on SB Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture on SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture on BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Genuine love can NEVER be experienced in a dictatorial "one-sided" impersonal version of "surrender" in the name of Krsna.

To deny a jiva-soul's individual acts of self expression of personal offerings as an independent individual, and instead allow one's self to be always told what to do and think in the name of surrender, never encouraged to make one's own voluntary contributions, is NOT surrender at all!

The idea that "surrender" means forgetting or extinguishing your free will, which means being encouraged to voluntarily express yourself as a contributing individual, and instead allow Krsna to take complete control of all your thoughts and actions, is not only impersonalism, but also spiritual suicide!

Emotions expressed in a "one-way" mood without any exchange between "two," is NOT love at all, it is selfishness and dangerous impersonalism.

Therefore, without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva-souls will NEVER experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and being able to offer their own personal unique gifts of individual contributions to Krsna.

As Prabhupada says, without "free will" we are no better than dead stone!

“Free will” or the ability to “choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and ALWAYS exists without beginning or end in ALL  the spiritual planets.

This is the real meaning of personalism.

As said above, free will in its full potential ONLY exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan, which is the jiva-souls original perpetual home.

As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-soul, is never a "one-way" domineering dictatorial relationship that denies personal contributions and choices.

No, love is ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there are two as Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupāda – ”Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately each individual jiva-soul is a unique person who can choose for themselves to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him if they choose. 

Free will also must allow this too otherwise free will has no meaning.  

As Prabhupada explains, Krsna never forces you to surrender to Him, never forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. Love is reciprocal, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, at the point of a gun." (July 8, 1976)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy and demand, you love me, you love me, you love me, is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver, you love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever expanding their expression of individuality with personal offerings based on free will and selfless loving reciprocation with Krsna, it is NEVER a one-sided master/slave relationship with God (Krsna)

Real love, bhakti or service is always reciprocal, as said above, and is NEVER a "one-way" dictatorial domination where "surrender" to Krsna takes away one's "free will," sense of a unique independent identity, individuality, a personality separate from Krsna's Personality,  and the freedom to voluntarily offer personal contributions to Krsna.

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own autonomous personality separate from Krsna's Personality, having their own sense of independent self, and their own unique characteristics THEY only have that no other jiva-soul also has.

Each jiva-soul is unique.

An independent individual with their own "one of a kind" personality. 

As said above, all these qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) make up in the spiritual world as the "PERSONS" they are eternally.

Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. "So God does not interfere with your independence." (Conversation Melb, Australia June 25, 1974).

Having the attributes of being an eternal PERSON also includes having free will as part and parcel of the jiva-souls constitutional make up.

Krsna does not want to be surrounded by mindless drones who have no individual unique personality who can choose to expand, enrich and expand one's relationship with Krsna based on loving exchanges.

Some religious groups wrongly preach that you must give up (surrender) your "free will" to enter Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana.

These nonsense groups should know that you must always have free will so one can voluntary choose to participate in loving exchanges with Krsna. 

Such a two-sided relationship is ONLY possible when the jiva-soul HAS their free will!

One must properly study Srila Prabhupada's Books and lectures to understand that surrender does NOT mean giving up your free will and letting Krsna control your every thought and actions. 

In one class in one within one of these bogus religious, a so called sannyasi foolishly said-

"If you surrender to Krsna then you do not even need to think for yourself, Krsna will do all the thinking for you."

This nonsense talk of trying to extinguish one's unique personality and free will is impersonalism and spiritual suicide! 

Many have foolishly believe that extinguishing your individuality and free will, is the real meaning of surrender. 

They demand you must hand over and surrender your individuality, intelligence and free will,  and let Krsna's will flow through you and control your every actions and thoughts, just like a puppet master controls a puppet."

Such nonsense preaching is Mayavadi impersonal. 

"Real surrender" is using your free will to choose how to serve Krsna in one's own unique way, by forever voluntarily increasing your service atitude with a constant variety of personal contributions, and NOT give up one's ability to think for yourself as the bogus religionists above wrongly preach! 

Such nonsense bogus impersonal surrender of attempting to give up (extinguish) your free will in the name of "surrender", is impersonalism that will only destroy who you really are as a unique individual PERSON, with the God given ability to contribute as a unique individual PERSON, and not as some mindless drone in a collective.

Love is NEVER a one-way street, there MUST be "free will" that makes the relationship a "two-way" exchange based on loving voluntary offerings.

This is what REAL personalism is.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

We should ALWAYS remember the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are personalist - and that means a PERSON who has a unique personality, who is naturally involved in a "two-way" loving exchange with Krsna and NEVER trapped in a one-way mindless dictatorship.

Therefore, being a PERSONALIST in the spiritual world means you MUST have your "free will" to voluntarily experience self expression, otherwise you are just a programmed "yes man or women" in a mindless collective who are never encouraged or nurtured to contribute as an independent individual.

The spiritual world is NOT an impersonal collective of jiva-souls who all think and act in the same way llike a mindless robot machines on a factorise assemble line that is always controlled, manipulated and programmed by the factory owner to only obey and only obey.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world service here is always voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

In the spiritual world the choice of the jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna is always voluntary, from a blade of grass to a tree, a cow or gopi or a 4 armed or two armed form on the Vaikuntha planets serving Narayana (Visnu) or in Goloka-Vrindavana with Krsna.  ^**^×










In Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana there are always voluntary loving exchanges, respectful cooperation and personal unique contributions of offerings to Krsna going on.

Such contributions and service are based on "free will", that is always expanding, enriching and adding variety and mystery to the jiva-souls friendship with Krsna.  

In this way "loyalty" or devotion to Krsna, is always a "two-way" street that can only genuinely exist in a positive way fully in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God), and not in the temporary decaying material creation where free will is greatly restricted and almost does not exist.

In fact, only in the human form (400 thousand different human species graded from higher consciousness, to lower primitive humans of almost animal intelligence) does the conditioned jiva-soul in the material world experience a little free will.

All the other 8 million species of life are dictated to by nature - the instincts of 

eating, 

sleeping, 

mating,

defending.

Proper devotional service happens only when the individual jiva-souls can voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions of loving service in their relationship with Krsna.

Without this basic rule of having loving exchanges in the spiritual planets, then there can never be genuine love or service within one's relationship with Krsna.

A relationship expressed in a "one-way" domineering mood without allowing and encouraging personal contributions only stagnates any relationship making it cold and impersonal.

A healthy relationship is based on a voluntary "two-way" mutual respectful exchange, that expands, enriches and forever increases loving affection and sentiment.

This can only be experienced in a "two-way" exchange of feelings and not in a "one-way" impersonal dictatorship.

A one-way dictatorial leadership is devoid of loving reciprocation and exchanges. Forced surrender is selfishness and cold impersonalism.

The spiritual worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are not a dictatorial "one-way" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding dictatorship that denies personal contributions and where God or Krsna does all the thinking and decision making for everyone.

No, the spiritual planets are not impersonal like that, where personal individual contributions are suppressed, denied and totally controlled.

Which only means that the personality, individual identity and independent character of the individual jiva-soul, is emotionally dead due to never being encouraged to experience healthy exchanges by contributing to them in their own unique way.

One's relationship with Krsna is voluntary, based on individual unique contributions and loving exchanges. 

Any God, spiritual master or guru who demands your free will MUST be surrendered are bogus fools and must be rejected and even eliminated to protect all innocent seekers of truth.

The fact is, in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdoms of God) there are always loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions based on "free will", and loving enriching reciprocation going on between Krsna and His devotees because without these attributes there can never be love.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that at the point of a gun." (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Pure selfless devotional service is always a "two-way" street where the jiva-souls have their own unique individual personality separate from Krsna's Personality.

Where they can express their own personal unique devotional contributions, and add them into the relationship with Krsna in Vrindavana, expanding and forever enhancing and enriching one's friendship with Krsna.

This is why the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are always aloud by Krsna to have their free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

Krsna will NEVER "force" the jiva-souls to do what they do not "choose" to do in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana. 

All service there is always voluntary. 

This is because the jiva-souls are not Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who are controlled in every way like a puppet master impersonally controls his emotionless puppets with the movement of strings. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So clearly, serving Krsna and His pure devotees is not impersonal, it does not mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality, ability to voluntary make personal contributions and having the awareness of being an independent unique contributing PERSON in Krsna's (God) Kingdom eternally.

The spiritual worlds are not a "one-way" impersonal domineering mindless totalitarian place for the individual jiva-souls in their relationship with Krsna. 

And who would want to live in such a emotionally dead version of God's Kingdom?

Krsna's Kingdom is not like that in anyway, everything that the jiva-souls do there is strictly voluntary.

There is always voluntary loving exchanges of feelings, emotions based on respect going on there in a caring mood of reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - "The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee want to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want, I can be a flower and lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower voluntarily, and can also change from being a flower to having human bodily form like Krsnas. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6.1.1-4 - Melb, Australia  May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

As emphasised above, one's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom is never a one sided master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as Prabhupada has told us above.

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever voluntarily expanding the expression of their individuality with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings based on their "free will."

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture on SB Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture on BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two-persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Their (the impersonalist mayavadis) philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, it is never a "one-way sided domination where surrender to Krsna takes away the jiva-soul's sense of self, free will, individuality and their personal voluntary contributions of service to Krsna.

It needs to be emphasised that each individual jiva-soul has their own independent unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality (yet always dependent on Krsna), which means having their own method of giving and receiving while making their own personal contributions. 

These personal attributes each individual jiva-soul possess, they are part and parcel of each jiva-soul's eternal constitutional make up, making them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.

"Free will" in its full potential, is only fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan, which are the jiva-soul's original perpetual home. 

The jiva-souls home is never in the material world trapped in the horror of material bodily vessels repeated birth and death.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals.Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Vipina Purandara - "Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Krsna does NOT want followers who deny others their right of self expression of choosing for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna.

As said above, all jiva-souls in the spiritual world voluntarily offering their own unique personal contributions in service to Krsna.

Or even rejecting Krsna if they choose to do so as Prabhupada explains.

This is always possible because there is always a choice, and that is why free will happens to always exists in God's Kingdom (otherwise we are no better than dead emotionless stone.

The spiritual world's of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are Krsna's personal Kingdoms, based on voluntary association, loving exchanges and cooperation that never denies personal offerings. 

Therefore serving Krsna is never a "one-sided" demanding forceful relationship.

Ultimately, we are all Krsna's servant and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our "free will" and "individuality" to be Krsna's friend and servant.

Therefore, of course free will always exists in Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha that is part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul) as said above.

And yes, Krsna always allows "free will" because if He didn't, then loving exchanges will never be recognized and exist, and the spiritual world would be a cold impersonal stagnant useless place!

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval the jiva-souls have anything including their free will. 

However, free will is necessary because it allows the jiva-souls to voluntarily make their own unique contributions based on their own choices that having free will can only allow. 

Of course, such free will in its full potential, only fully exists in the spiritual world, and is almost non-existent in the material world.

Without free will the jiva-souls are no better than dead stone as Prabhupada says above.

The fact is, if Krsna denied the jiva-soul's there free will then there really is no life, one is simply like a mindless puppet always controlled by the strings of the puppet master (a useless God).

So, if Kṛṣṇa never allowed free will or denied the jiva-souls their free will, then the the jiva-souls would never be able to experience loving exchanges or meaningful emotions because ultimately love is always a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings only experienced when voluntary contributions are allowed by Krsna. 

Genuine loving devotional service can never be experienced in a "one-way" totally controlled environment run by Krsna or anyone. 

For love to truly exist there must be a two-way exchange of feelings with Krsna otherwise the idea of spiritual life is dead.

Such impersonal emotionless association means one is no better than dead useless stone

Emotions expressed in a one-way mood without any exchange of feelings between two, is not love at all, it is selfishness and dangerous impersonalism.

Therefore, without the free will of being allowed to contribute their own personal offerings, based on independent choices, the jiva-souls will never experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and have the choice to choose their own personal unique offerings to Krsna.

As emphasised above, "free will" or the ability to "choose" is eternally part and parcel of the jiva-soul's (marginal living entities) natural constitution.

And always exists without beginning or end in all the spiritual planets, but greatly restricted in the material creation where free will almost does not exist.

Having free will in its full potential only exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, which is the jiva-souls original perpetual home.

The relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-soul is never a "one-way, one-sided" domineering forceful relationship, that denies personal contributions and individual decision making from the jiva-souls.

No, love is always based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there are two as Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two-persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately, each individual jiva-soul is a unique PERSON who can choose for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or even ignore Him if they choose. 

Krsna never forces you to love Him, surrender to Him, never demands you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary. Love is reciprocal, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover by force like that." (July 8, 1976)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come here, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save us from thinking like that?”

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force. In Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand, you love me, you love me, you love me, is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? So, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver, you love me otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening force. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called a rapist?" (Lecture July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

The jiva-souls in on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana, are forever expanding their loving affection and selfless service to Kṛṣṇa in a "two-way" exchange.

The jiva-souls have unlimited  ways of expressing their unique individuality with personal offerings based as selfless service. 

The jiva-souls relationship with Krsna is never a one-sided master/slave relationship with the Krsna in Goloka Vrindavana or Visnu on the Vaikuntha planets.

Real love, bhakti or service is reciprocal, as said above, it is never a one-way street or a one-sided affair of domination where "surrender" to Krsna takes away one's free will, sense of self, individuality and the ability to offer personal contributions to Krsna.

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own autonomous personality separate from Krsna's Personality.

They have their own sense of independent self, their own unique characteristics that only they have, and no other jiva-soul has.

Each jiva-soul is a unique individual with their own personality separate from all other personalities including Krsna's Personality 

This also means no two-jiva souls are the same.

All these qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities make up in the spiritual worlds as the independent unique jiva-soul ("PERSON") they are eternally.

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. "So God does not interfere with your independence." (Conversation Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)

Having the attributes of being an eternal PERSON also includes having free will as part and parcel of the jiva-souls constitutional make up as previously explained.

Krsna does not want to be surrounded by mindless drones who have no individual offerings to contribute, or can think and decide for themselves on on what to offer Krsna.

Each individual jiva-soul always has their free will included in their constitutional make up.

This allows all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) to make their own personal unique choices that simultaneously expands and enriches the relationship of loving exchanges with Krsna.

Real surrender is to voluntarily use your free will and choose to serve Krsna in your own unique personal way and never give up your freedom of expression that gives you the personal choices of how to provide personal contributions.

To deny free will and attempt to extinguish your individual personality and identity by entering the impersonal dormant (inactive) Brahmajyoti, is spiritual suicide to a Vaisnava devotee of the Lord.

The nonsense of attempting to give up your "free will" (spiritual suicide) to serve Krsna in the name of "surrender," is dangerous impersonalism.

Such impersonalism will only destroy who you really are as a unique individual PERSON, who can contribute as that person, and NOT as some mindless devotee drone in a collective.

Love is never a one-way or one-sided affair on the Vaikuntha planets or in Goloka-Vrindavana.

The jiva-souls always have their free will too that allows the relationship with Krsna to be expressed in a "two-way" exchange of voluntary offerings that forever expand and enrich one's relationship with Krsna.

Please read the article above with Prabhupada's quotes on free will.

Srila Prabhupada clearly says without "free will" you are no better than dead stone, and to give up your free will is impersonalism and spiritual suicide.

We must use our "free will" to think of ways to expand one's loving exchanges and devotion with Krsna, this is REAL personalism.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Sadly, in today's society exists a very subtle nasty expression of impersonalism.

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are PERSONALIST with their own individual character, unique identity and spiritual body (vigraha). 

And to be a personalist you must have "free will", otherwise you are just a mindless programmed puppet in a collective of puppets, all manipulated and forced to dance by strings moved by the puppet master. 

Such an existence imitating spiritual life in name of Krsna, is the worst kind of impersonalism.*÷*.

















The jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna (God) in His Kingdom's of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka Vrindavana is NEVER a "one-sided" non-voluntary contributing forceful impersonal affair Prabhupada explains here.

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever voluntarily expanding their variety of personal expressions that come from their own individuality, personality and free will.

This is constantly achieved with increasing offerings to Krsna based on loving exchanges and reciprocation.

Srila Prabhupada – "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Real love or Bhakti is both reciprocal and voluntary, it is NEVER a "one-sided" dictatorial affair where surrender to Krsna takes away the individual jiva-soul's independent sense of self, free will and their personal unique contributions of voluntary offerings to Krsna.

Each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality (yet dependent on Krsna) but separate from Krsna's Personality as well.

This means each individual jiva-soul has their own sense of self, personality and unique identity that THEY only uniquely have.  

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul) making each jiva-soul the unique "PERSON" they are eternally.

The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) have existed for "infinity" which means they are beginningless and endless and were NEVER created like Krsna was never created.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is, Chapter 2 text 12-

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is (1983 corrected edition), Chapter 2 text 20-

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20)

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)

Only matter is temporary (like the decomposing material bodily vessel the jiva-soul is presently within), while the jiva-souls as a spiritual bodyswithin the material body, are eternal and can NEVER cease to exist or be destroyed.

This means when the material vessels the jiva-souls are in, breaks down due to disease, decay or accidents, and ceases to function.

The jiva-soul within the material body is then forced to vacate that decomposing material body and take another one in the cycle of birth and death, Liberated or conditioned.

There are two realities the jiva-souls can be in-

1 -Nitya-siddha means the eternally liberated jiva-souls but only "while" remaining on th Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

2 -Nitya-baddha means the eternally material conditioned jiva-souls but only while in the material creation or conditioned in the dormant or inactive in the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman.  

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka. When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "There are two kinds of marginal living entities: nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. The actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity is nitya-siddha." (CC lecture, July 13, 1976) 

Srila Prabhupada - "The Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha." (New York Lecture on CC, July 13, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can also become siddha. He can become again nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha, to bring them to their original position. It is a difficult task." (London lecture on BG, July 14, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Nitya-baddhas are within this material world. Beginning from Brahma down to a small ant, insignificant ant, they are all nitya-baddha. Anyone who is in this material world they are nitya-baddha." (Lecture on BG, July 14, 1973)

In the spiritual world's of Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets, loving devotional service is never a "one-way or one-sided" affair, no, real love or service is always voluntary service expressed in a reciprocal "two-way" exchange with Krsna in God's (Krsna) Kingdom.

Voluntary reciprocal association in the Kingdom of God with Krsna can only be expressed in a genuine loving way when "two"are involved in a loving exchange nurtured and encouraged by Krsna.

In Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, personal voluntary expressions (service) involving loving exchanges, can only be expressed because the jiva-souls have free will.

Such free will is always encouraged by Krsna in His relationship with the jiva-souls, which adds flavour, variety and expanding mystery in the relationship between the individual jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa.

This means the Kingdom of God is NOT a "one-sided," one-eyed viewed "impersonal" abode that is devoid of voluntary self expression personal contributions.

Without free will, the jiva-soul is denied the ability to provide those personal contributions that inspire and build integrity and individual character.  

All unique offerings to Krsna that He always allows, are meant to expand, enrich and flavour the relationship.

As said above, love or service to Krsna is not a "one-sided" affiliate of total supremacy or pre-eminence.

The fact is genuine loving relations and service are based on voluntary reciprocal exchanges and contributions between two, not just one!!

The individual jiva-souĺs have their unique choices too, even if that choice means rejecting Krsna!

Free will only has meaning when the jiva-souls can ALWAYS express themselves in a "two-sided" affair.

In other words, loving reciprocation is only possible on a "two-way" street between two, with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.

The word "reciprocation" only has meaning when there are two involved, not one!

"Free will" in its full potential, is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan, which is the jiva-souls original perpetual home.

The mundane dead material creation is where repeated birth and death take place and is continually experienced by the trapped jiva-soul, 

The material creation is NOT the jiva-soul's real home.

This is because the jiva-souls, who have chosen to enter the material creation, are then forced to possess temporary material bodily vessels that are always in a constant state of maintenance, decomposition and death, but the jiva-soul "within the material body." NEVER dies.

Therefore, such troublesome material bodily vessels are NOT who the jiva-souls are.

Even to enter many heavenly and hellish material planets, the jiva-souls must have the right type of material body (subtle or gross material body) and the accumulation of pious or impious activities in order to enter  heavenly or hellish material planets.

Such heavenly and hellish realms are NOT visible or possible to visit for those in a "gross" material body, only being in a proper "subtle material body" can one enter both heaven and hell in the material creation.

Therefore, even going to those material planets in their gross material space crafts as Astronauts have achieved while confined in their gross material body, will not reveal to them the opulent heavenly or hellish atmosphere on the planet they visit.

Just like the heavenly realm on the Moon called Chandraloka that the American Astronauts visited, but could not see or detect the heavenly atmosphere there.

Srila Prabhupada - The material body is just a covering of the spiritual soul. Mind and intelligence are the undercoverings (subtle body) and the "gross body of earth, water, air, etc., is the overcoating of the soul. As such, any advanced soul who has realized himself by the yogic process, who knows the relationship between matter and spirit, can leave the gross dress of the jiva-soul in perfect order and as he desires. 

By the grace of God, we have complete freedom. Because the Lord is kind to us, we can live anywhere—either in the spiritual sky or in the material sky, upon whichever planet we desire. However, misuse of this freedom causes one to fall down into the material world and suffer the threefold miseries of conditioned life. 

The living of a miserable life in the material world by dint of the soul's choice is nicely illustrated by Milton in Paradise Lost. Similarly, by choice the soul can regain paradise and return home, back to Godhead. At the critical time of death, one can place the vital force between the two eyebrows and decide where he wants to go. 

If he is reluctant to maintain any connection with the material world, he can, in less than a second, reach the transcendental Vaikuṇṭha and appear there completely in his spiritual body which will be suitable for him in the spiritual atmosphere. He has simply to desire to leave the material world in both finer and grosser forms and then move the vital force to the topmost part of the skull and leave the body from the hole in the skull called the brahma-randhra. 

This is the highest perfection in the practice of yoga. Of course man is endowed with free will, and as such if he does not want to free himself of the material world he may enjoy the life of brahma-pāda (occupation of the post of Brahmā) and visit Siddhaloka, the planets of materially perfect beings who have full abilities to control gravity, space, time, etc. 

To visit these higher planets in the material universe, one need not give up his mind and intelligence (finer matter), but need only give up grosser matter (the gross material body). 

Man-made satellites and mechanical space vehicles (made out of gross matter) will NEVER be able to carry human beings (while in their "gross material body") to the higher dimentional planets of outer space. Men cannot even go on their much-advertised trips (to the heavenly subtle atmosphere) on moon, for, as we have already stated, the (subtle material) atmosphere on such higher planets is different from the (gross material) atmosphere here on earth. 

Each and every planet has its particular atmosphere, and if one wants to travel to any particular planet within the material universe, one has to have a material body exactly adapted to the climatic condition of that planet. For instance, if one wants to go from India to Europe, where the climatic condition is different, one has to change his dress accordingly. Similarly, a complete change of body is necessary if one wants to go to the transcendental planets of Vaikuṇṭha." (Easy Journey to Other Planets 1)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Vipina Purandara - "Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, You love me, you love me, you love me, is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? No it is force!" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

There is always a choice and that is why "free will" ALWAYS exists in God's Kingdom's of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana otherwise we are no better than dead emotionless stone.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there voluntarily. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily, and can change, from flower to human body if I choose. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4  Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual soul is never a "one-way" domineering dictatorial relationship that denies voluntary personal contributions and choices.

No, love is ALWAYS based on the reciprocation in a two-way exchange because love can only exist when there are two as Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes).***