We should ALWAYS remember the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are PERSONALIST with their own individual identity and unique personality.

Sadly today in 2021 still exists a very subtle expression of impersonalism, where one is always told what to do and think, instead of being trained up to voluntarily think for themselves of how to serve the Spiritual Master and Krsna in their own unique personal way.

Devotees have to be encouraged to think for themselves and take responsibility for their own actions by being encouraged to make their own choices of how to voluntarily serve the Spiritual Master and Kṛṣṇa.

We should ALWAYS remember the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are PERSONALIST with their own individual identity and unique personality.

This establishes what being a PERSON really is, that perpetually exist in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, where the jiva-souls voluntarily contribute to their relationship with Krsna in a "two-way" exchange of loving reciprocation that forever expands the relationship with Krsna due to those voluntary inputs.

ln other words, being a contributing individual PERSON can NEVER manifest in a "one-way" mindless dictatorship.

Therefore being a PERSONALIST in the Spiritual World's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana means you MUST have your "free will" in order to express yourself voluntarily as an individual and contribute to those loving exchanges with Krsna.

Otherwise you are just a programmed "yes man or women" in a mindless collective who are never encouraged or nurtured to think for themselves and contribute from their own independent ability of self expression.

The Spiritual Worlds are NOT an impersonal collective of jiva-souls who all think and act in the same way like mindless robots in a factory who are always controlled and programmed by the factory owner.

Love is NEVER like that because love can NEVER exist on a "one way street", you MUST have your free will too, to make it a "two way" exchange of voluntary offerings.

As said above, the "Spiritual World's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are NOT a dictatorial "one way" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding realm that denies personal contributions, where a so called God does all the thinking and decision making for everyone.

No, the Spiritual Planets are NOT impersonal or emotionally stagnant like that.

The fact is in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (the Kingdoms of God) there are ALWAYS loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique voluntary individual contributions being offered by the jiva-souls based on "free will" that encourages loving enriching reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees, because without these attributes there can NEVER be love.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that"(Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Therefore devotion is ALWAYS a "two way" street where the jiva-souls also have their own unique individual personality separate from Krsna's Personality, that allows  them to add their own unique personal expressions into the relationship with Kṛṣṇa that expands and forever enhances and enriches one's friendship with Krsna.

Krsna will NEVER "force" us to do what we do not "choose" to do in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana because we are NOT Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who only do what they are told to think and act without providing personal voluntary contributions.

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. 

Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So clearly surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal, it does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless place for the individual jiva souls in their relationship with Krsna or God.

No, the Kingdom of God is not like that in anyway, there is ALWAYS voluntary loving exchanges of feelings and emotions going on based on between Krsna and His devotees.

The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. 

Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. 

If I want that, to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna as a flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. 

That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. 

If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

The Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes Lord Krsna, also expands into the material creation as Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu)

From the four armed Bodily form of Maha-Visnu, all the billions material massive universes (Brahmandas) originate from the pores of His skin and His breathing.

Maha-Visnu creates all the material universes (Brahmandas) that take up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky, unlike the other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky that is forever permanent, eternally youthful and where there is no birth, old age or death.

The material creation on the other hand is temporary and always in a state of continious maintenance because of decay.

Everything in the material creation fades away over the time of past, present and future in the material universal worlds (known as Brahmanda universes that each have an inner secondary universe deep inside them)

Because of this decay in the material creation, there is always repeated birth, disease, old age and death going on.

This means for those jiva souls who have foolishly chosen to enter the material creation, are constantly forced to change material bodily vessels they are in, because such material biological bodies are always in a state of decline decomposition and end in death.

Maha-Visnu further expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu who resides deep inside His own "secondary universe" that is deep inside the greater surrounding outer Brahmanda universe.

From Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Lord Brahma appears and creates (builds) the different planetary systems (lower, middle and heavenly) in each material universe within their Brahmanda, our inner material universe has 14 planetary systems in it.

The amount of planetary systems deep inside each Brahmanda universe is based on how many heads each Brahma has, in our universe our Brahma has four heads.

However, other universes inside their Brahmanda can have many, many, many more planetary systems depending on how many heads their Lord Brahma has.

Some Brahmas have 20, 50, 100, 500, 50,000 or 10,000,000 heads which means many inner universes are massive.

Our secondary material universe inside our outer Brahmanda universe encasing it, is only 4 billion miles in diameter (12 billion 570 million circumference of our spherical universe inside the Brahmanda) according to the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

On the other hand, the massive size of our Brahmanda universe that houses our "secondary universe" where Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Brahma and the 14 planetary systems are found, is 44 quadrillion, 444 trillion, 444 billion miles in diameter.

Thia is approximately 141 quadrillion, 252 trillion miles in circumference of the almost spherical Brahmanda universe, or twice that figure if measured from the outer edge our inner secondary universe inside our Brahmanda universe, according to calculations in the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

Other Brahmanda universes in the material creation are much bigger than ours, found in the material creation in all different sizes, depending on how many heads each Brahma has as explained above.

So to be clear, deep inside each Brahmanda universe, there is a smaller secondary  material universe where Maha-Visnu expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu, and from Him Lord Brahma appears from a lotus flower growing from Garbhodakashayi Visnu's naval, who then creates the inner secondary universe that houses the many planetary systems.

Maha-Visnu expands again to a third Visnu known as the Ksirodakashayi Visnu (Supersoul or Paramatma) who accompanies all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) who choose to leave the Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (3/4 of the Spiritual Sky) and enter the material creation (1/4 of the Spiritual Sky)

All the massive Brahmanda universes first enter the material creation through the bodily pores and each breath of Maha-Visnu, and are destroyed when He breaths in.

The time between each breath of Maha Visnu (or between the creations of the many Brahmanda universes) in human years, is 311 trillion 40 billion years which is also the life span of Brahma.

Devotion is a ALWAYS a "two-way" street that ONLY genuinely exists in its full potential in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

In these Spiritual Worlds the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions of loving service in their relationship with Krsna.

Without this basic rule of loving exchanges in the Spiritual Planets, then there can NEVER be genuine love or service in one's relationship with Krsna.

Intrusive directives are expressed in a forced "one way" mood is meant to manipulate, dominate and control the jiva-souls to obey without question.

Such "one-way" leadership demanding one obey without questioning, denies any personal voluntary contributions that expand, enrich and enhance personal loving relationships, only fully experienced in a "two way" relationship of exchanges.

Such a "one-way" forced surrender to God is NOT love at all, it is a selfish, impersonal spiritually dead version of God's Kingdom.

The Spiritual Worlds of Visnu's Vaikuntha Planets, and Krsna's Goloka Vrindavana central spiritual Abode, are NOT like that in anyway!

They are NOT a dictatorial "one-way" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding dictatorship that denies personal contributions, where God or Krsna does all the thinking and decision making for everyone.

No, the Spiritual Planets are NOT impersonal, mindless or emotionally dead like that.

The fact is, in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (the REAL Kingdom of God) there are ALWAYS loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions going on, based on "free will", that forever enriches loving reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.

The fact is without these wonderful attributes Prabhupada has made many of us realise by his following comments, there can never be love.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that" (Washington DC July 8, 1976).

Therefore "loyalty" and devotion is ALWAYS a "two-way" street where the jiva souls have their own unique individual personality separate from Krsna's Personality, who can freely add their own personal unique expressions of devotion into the relationship, that expands and forever enhances, enriches and adds unlimited positive variety to one's friendship and relationship with Krsna

Krsna will NEVER "force" us to do what we do not "choose" to do in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, there all service is voluntary. 

This is because we are NOT Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who are controlled how to think and act in every way like a puppet master impersonally controls his puppets with the movement of strings.

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. 

Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. 

NOT by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So clearly, surrender to Krsna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal.

It does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The Spiritual Worlds are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless place for the individual jiva-souls in their relationship with Krsna or God.

No, in the Kingdom of God (Krsna's Abode) there are ALWAYS voluntary loving exchanges of feelings, emotions and service going on, based on reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. 

If I want that - "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. 

That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. 

If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

One's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom is NEVER a one sided master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as explained above, Prabhupada is warning us here.

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever voluntarily expanding their personal expressions and unique individuality with an increasing expanding variety of personal devotional offerings based on free will.

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. 

I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love''. (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 1 Chapter 2 text 6, Delhi, November 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation.

If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation. (Lecture on Bhagavad Gita Chapter 9 text 2-5, New York, November 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – ”Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love?

Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. 

I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. 

So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there”. (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Their (impersonalist) philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? 

Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. 

There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. 

"Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, it is NEVER a "one way street" where surrender to Krsna takes away one's sense of self, free will, individuality and one's personal contributions of voluntary offerings to Krsna.

Each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality (yet simultaneously dependent on Krsna), but also separate from Krsna's Personality, which means each jiva soul has their own sense of self which is their "unique individual identity" that THEY only individually each have. 

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva soul) making each of them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.

"Free will" in its full potential, is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, which are the jiva souls original perpetual homes.

And having "free will" also means the jiva-souls have the choice to reject Krsna if they choose.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? 

If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly".

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes", but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will.

He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. 

Why? 

Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will. (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Vipina Purandara - “Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Krsna does NOT want followers who deny others their right to choose for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna by offering their unique personal contributions, or even rejecting Krsna if they choose as Prabhupada explains above.

There is always a choice and that is why "free will" ALWAYS exists in Krsna's Kingdom.

Otherwise we are no better than dead emotionless stone or mindless drones.

The Spiritual worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are Krsna's PERSONAL Kingdoms that are perpetually based on loving exchanges, cooperation and voluntary offerings with and too Krsna and His devotees, it is NEVER a "one way" demanding forceful relationship.      

Ultimately we are all Krsna's servant and very dear friend however, that does not mean we have to give up our "free will" and "individuality" to be Krsna's friend and servant.

So the conclusion is of course free will DOES exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha and free will is ALWAYS part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva soul).

In this way Krsna ALWAYS allows free will because if He didn't, then loving voluntary exchanges can NEVER exist.

So many ask why does Krsna (God) allow the jiva souls to have free will?

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval the jiva souls have anything, and that includes having their free will too. 

So how do we correctly understand this and why free will is a necessary part and parcel of the make up of every marginal living entities (jiva-souls)?

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes meaning EVERYTHING comes from Him including the jiva soul's free-will.

The fact is, if Krsna denied the jiva-souls their free-will, then we are no better than dead stone or mindless drones who are always told what to do and how to do it.

If the jiva-souls never had their free-will to personally provide individual contributions or offerings, then this will only deny them to be the contributing PERSON they really are eternally.

Therefore without free will Krsna would be surrounded by mindless drones with no life, no independent personality, no sense of individual self and no life.

Free will means having a life of voluntary personal contributions 

Without free will the jiva souls can NEVER experience loving exchanges or personal unique emotions because ultimately love is a "two way" exchange of personal feelings only experienced when there are voluntary contributions in a "two way" exchange that can only work when there is free will.

Therefore as explained above "free will" can NEVER be experienced in a "one way" forced dictatorial environment run by Krsna or anyone.

Such impersonal absolute control of an individual person is called slavery.

Forcing others to obey under the heading of surrender in a "one way" manipulative way, means there is no voluntary loving meaningful two-way exchanges going on between "two"

Therefore such an impersonal forced relationship is NOT out of love, it is selfishness and dangerous impersonalism.

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love. Love must be voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force.” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Therefore without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings as a cow, as a calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

The Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes Lord Krsna, also expands into the material creation as Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha-Visnu)

From the four armed Bodily form of Maha-Visnu, all the billions material massive universes (Brahmandas) originate from the pores of His skin and His breathing.

Maha-Visnu creates all the material universes (Brahmandas) that take up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky, unlike the other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky that is forever permanent, eternally youthful and where there is no birth, old age or death.

The material creation on the other hand is temporary and always in a state of continious maintenance because of decay.

Everything in the material creation fades away over the time of past, present and future in the material universal worlds (known as Brahmanda universes that each have an inner secondary universe deep inside them)

Because of this decay in the material creation, there is always repeated birth, disease, old age and death going on.

This means for those jiva souls who have foolishly chosen to enter the material creation, are constantly forced to change material bodily vessels they are in, because such material biological bodies are always in a state of decline decomposition and end in death.

Maha-Visnu further expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu who resides deep inside His own "secondary universe" that is deep inside the greater surrounding outer Brahmanda universe.

From Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Lord Brahma appears and creates (builds) the different planetary systems (lower, middle and heavenly) in each material universe within their Brahmanda, our inner material universe has 14 planetary systems in it.

The amount of planetary systems deep inside each Brahmanda universe is based on how many heads each Brahma has, in our universe our Brahma has four heads.

However, other universes inside their Brahmanda can have many, many, many more planetary systems depending on how many heads their Lord Brahma has.

Some Brahmas have 20, 50, 100, 500, 50,000 or 10,000,000 heads which means many inner universes are massive.

Our secondary material universe inside our outer Brahmanda universe encasing it, is only 4 billion miles in diameter (12 billion 570 million circumference of our spherical universe inside the Brahmanda) according to the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

On the other hand, the massive size of our Brahmanda universe that houses our "secondary universe" where Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Brahma and the 14 planetary systems are found, is 44 quadrillion, 444 trillion, 444 billion miles in diameter.

Thia is approximately 141 quadrillion, 252 trillion miles in circumference of the almost spherical Brahmanda universe, or twice that figure if measured from the outer edge our inner secondary universe inside our Brahmanda universe, according to calculations in the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam .

Other Brahmanda universes in the material creation are much bigger than ours, found in the material creation in all different sizes, depending on how many heads each Brahma has as explained above.

So to be clear, deep inside each Brahmanda universe, there is a smaller secondary  material universe where Maha-Visnu expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu, and from Him Lord Brahma appears from a lotus flower growing from Garbhodakashayi Visnu's naval, who then creates the inner secondary universe that houses the many planetary systems.

Maha-Visnu expands again to a third Visnu known as the Ksirodakashayi Visnu (Supersoul or Paramatma) who accompanies all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) who choose to leave the Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (3/4 of the Spiritual Sky) and enter the material creation (1/4 of the Spiritual Sky)

All the massive Brahmanda universes first enter the material creation through the bodily pores and each breath of Maha-Visnu, and are destroyed when He breaths in.

The time between each breath of Maha Visnu (or between the creations of the many Brahmanda universes) in human years, is 311 trillion 40 billion years which is also the life span of Brahma.

Devotion is a ALWAYS a "two-way" street that ONLY genuinely exists in its full potential in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

In these Spiritual Worlds the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions of loving service in their relationship with Krsna.

Without this basic rule of loving exchanges in the Spiritual Planets, then there can NEVER be genuine love or service in one's relationship with Krsna.

Intrusive directives are expressed in a forced "one way" mood is meant to manipulate, dominate and control the jiva-souls to obey without question.

Such "one-way" leadership demanding one obey without questioning, denies any personal voluntary contributions that expand, enrich and enhance personal loving relationships, only fully experienced in a "two way" relationship of exchanges.

Such a "one-way" forced surrender to God is NOT love at all, it is a selfish, impersonal spiritually dead version of God's Kingdom.

The Spiritual Worlds of Visnu's Vaikuntha Planets, and Krsna's Goloka Vrindavana central spiritual Abode, are NOT like that in anyway!

They are NOT a dictatorial "one-way" impersonal directive, or a domineering demanding dictatorship that denies personal contributions, where God or Krsna does all the thinking and decision making for everyone.

No, the Spiritual Planets are NOT impersonal, mindless or emotionally dead like that.

The fact is, in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (the REAL Kingdom of God) there are ALWAYS loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions going on, based on "free will", that forever enriches loving reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.

The fact is without these wonderful attributes Prabhupada has made many of us realise by his following comments, there can never be love.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that" (Washington DC July 8, 1976).

Therefore commitment is ALWAYS a "two-way" street where the jiva souls have their own unique individual personality separate from Krsna's Personality, who can freely add their own personal unique expressions of devotion into the relationship, that expands and forever enhances, enriches and adds unlimited positive variety to one's friendship and relationship with Krsna

Krsna will NEVER "force" us to do what we do not "choose" to do in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana. 

This is because we are NOT Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who are controlled how to think and act in every way like a puppet master impersonally controls his puppets with the movement of strings.

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. 

Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. 

NOT by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So clearly, surrender to Krsna and His pure devotees is NEVER impersonal.

It does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The Spiritual Worlds are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless place for the individual jiva-souls in their relationship with Krsna or God.

No, in the Kingdom of God (Krsna's Abode) there are ALWAYS voluntary loving exchanges of feelings, emotions and service going on, based on reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. 

If I want that - "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. 

That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. 

If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as a cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

One's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom is NEVER a one sided master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as explained above, Prabhupada is warning us here.

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever voluntarily expanding their personal expressions and unique individuality with an increasing expanding variety of personal devotional offerings based on free will.

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. 

I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love''. (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 1 Chapter 2 text 6, Delhi, November 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation.

If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation. (Lecture on Bhagavad Gita Chapter 9 text 2-5, New York, November 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupāda – ”Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love?

Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. 

I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. 

So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there”. (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Their (impersonalist) philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? 

Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. 

There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. 

"Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, it is NEVER a "one way street" where surrender to Krsna takes away one's sense of self, free will, individuality and one's personal contributions of voluntary offerings to Krsna.

Each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality (yet simultaneously dependent on Krsna), but also separate from Krsna's Personality, which means each jiva soul has their own sense of self which is their "unique individual identity" that THEY only individually each have. 

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva soul) making each of them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.

"Free will" in its full potential, is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, which are the jiva souls original perpetual homes.

And having "free will" also means the jiva souls have the choice to reject Krsna if they choose.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? 

If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly".

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes", but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will.

He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. 

Why? 

Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will. (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Vipina Purandara - “Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Krsna does NOT want followers who deny others their right to choose for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna by offering their own unique personal contributions.

Or even rejecting Krsna if they choose to do so as Prabhupada explains above.

There is always a choice and that is why "free will" ALWAYS exists in Krsna's Kingdom.

Otherwise we are no better than dead emotionless stone or mindless drones Prabhupada has explained.

The Spiritual worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are Visnu and Krsna's PERSONAL Kingdoms, that are perpetually based on loving personal exchanges, cooperation and voluntary offerings to Visnu/Narayana expansions of Krsna.

With Krsna and His devotees, it is NEVER a "one way" demanding forceful relationship.      

Ultimately we are all Krsna's servant and very dear friend however, that does not mean we have to give up our "free will" and "individuality" to be Krsna's friend and servant.

So the conclusion is of course free will DOES exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha and free will is ALWAYS part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva soul).

In this way Krsna ALWAYS allows free will because if He didn't, then loving voluntary exchanges can NEVER exist.

So many ask why does Krsna (God) allow the jiva souls to have free will?

Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction and approval the jiva souls have anything, and that includes having their free will too. So how do we correctly understand this?

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes meaning EVERYTHING comes from Him including the jiva soul's free-will.

The fact is, if Krsna denied the jiva-souls their free-will, then we are no better than dead stone or mindless drones who are always told what to do and how to do it.

If the jiva-souls never had their free-will to personally provide individual contributions or offerings, then this will only deny them to be the contributing PERSON they really are eternally.

Therefore without free will Krsna would be surrounded by mindless drones with no life, no independent personality, no sense of individual self and no life.

Free will means having a life!

Without free will the jiva souls can NEVER experience loving exchanges or personal unique emotions because ultimately love is a "two way" exchange of personal feelings only experienced when there are voluntary contributions in a "two way" exchange that can only work when there is free will.

Therefore as explained above "free will" can NEVER be experienced in a "one way" forced dictatorial environment run by Krsna or anyone.

Such impersonal absolute control of an individual person,  is called slavery.

Forcing others to obey under the heading of surrender in a "one way" manipulative way, means there is no voluntary loving meaningful two-way exchanges going on between "two"

Therefore such an impersonal forced relationship is NOT out of love, it is selfishness and dangerous impersonalism.

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’'

That is not love. Love MUST be voluntary, with a good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force.” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Therefore WITHOUT free-will, or being allowed to contribute personal offerings, and being always independent, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva souls will NEVER experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation, and experience their own personal unique offerings of individual contributions to Krsna.

As Prabhupada says, without "free will" we are no better than dead stone!

“Free will” or the ability to “choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva soul's (marginal living entities) natural constitution and ALWAYS exists without beginning or end in ALL the Spiritual Planets.

Free will in its full potential ONLY exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan which is our original perpetual home.

This material creation is NOT our original home, free will in the material creation is greatly restricted.

As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual soul in the Spiritual Worlds is never a "one way" domineering dictatorial relationship, that denies personal contributions and choices.

No, love is ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there is a two way relationship as Prabhupada explains -

Srila Prabhupāda – ”Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there”. (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – “So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately each individual soul is a unique independent person who can choose for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, or ignore Him if they want. 

Srila Prabhupada – “Krsna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. Love is reciprocal, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that.” (July 8, 1976)^*^

Three great songs made 35 years ago this week (1986) inspired by Hare Krishna devotees in the old Soviet Union.

Click on text above.

Three great songs made 35 years ago this week (September 9th 1986) by the Australian Gurukula devotees inspired by imprisoned Hare Krishna devotees in the old Soviet Union persecuted because of their Religious belief.

https://youtu.be/0BzRRoJoQU0

Devotees of Krsna should all get the Covid-19 vaccine as soon as possible if they want to travel to other's homes and tell them about Kṛṣṇa, it is very dangerous out there in this World wide pandemic.

Thank Krsna I have had my two jabs of Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine that now allows me to travel and tell others about Krsna.

The vaccine is free.

Hundreds are dying every day and sadly all those who are dying are unvaccinated. 

So save your life and get vaccinated so you can travel and preach about Kṛṣṇa, and please avoid anti-vax ignorant people with their nonsense big pharmacy is after your money nonsense, most are stupid conspiracy theories.

Remember the vaccine in free.

Krsna helps those who do everything they can to help themselves.

The following is an example of worshiping Krsna (God) ignorantly-

The story of the drowning Man who prayed to God for help 

Once during a big flood a man was stuck on his rooftop. He was continuously chanting and praying to Kṛṣṇa to be saved. 

Soon a man in a rowboat came by shouted to the man on the roof,

"Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded man on the roof shouted back, "No, no, it's OK, I'm praying to Kṛṣṇa and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by and the man in the motorboat shouted,

"Jump in, I can save you, before the water gets too high."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to Kṛṣṇa, I don't need your help, he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went away too.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, 

"Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to Kṛṣṇa and he is going to save me personally. I have faith, go away."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned and he left his material bodily vessel. 

After death he was taken to the court of Yamaraj the Lord of death and said to Yamaraj. 

"I had faith that Kṛṣṇa would save me but he didn't save me and let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this the Yamaraj, a great devotee of Kṛṣṇa replied, 

"Kṛṣṇa sent you a rowboat, a motorboat and then a helicopter, what more did you expect from Krsna? He did everything he could to save you but you could not see Krsna's hand behind that help!"

In other words Krsna can appear in many ways to help his devotees an not by just being physically present.

In early February 1973 in Sydney Australia, Srila Prabhupada developed an infection on his finger from a paper cut while opening mail. 

The infected finger got worse over a few days and eventually Prabhupada asked for a doctor to come and give him penicillin to heal the infection. 

This happened and within a day his infected finger was healed

However, one young devotee saw that Prabhupada was constantly chanting Hare Krsna, translating Srimad Bhagavatam's 3rd Canto and preaching to all the devotees but was very confused. 

So this young devotee asked Prabhupada, 

''You are always chanting Krsna's name, working late at night translating Srimad Bhagavatam into English, and preaching to the devotees, why didn't Krsna heal your finger directly that was causing you so much discomfort?''

Srila Prabhupada smiled and answered this devotees question by showing great faith and dependence in Lord Krsna -

 ''Oh yes Krsna was so kind He immediately DID help me, it was Krsna who sent the the Doctor with the penicillin that healed my infected finger''.

The lesson here is, it is not that Krsna has to personally appear and wave some magic wand to instantly heal His devotees, no, it does not work that way -

''God helps those who do everything they can to help themselves'' 

This is the secret of spiritual life.

PHOTO - ISKCON Guru and GBC member Indradyumna Swami getting Covid-19 vaccination.

The Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes is Lord Krsna who expands as Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha Visnu) into the material creation and creates all the "Brahmanda universes".

These temporary material universe (Brahmandas) takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky. 

From the four armed Bodily form of Maha Visnu, all the billions material massive universes (Brahmandas) originate from the pores of His skin and His breathing.

The other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky is the Vaikuntha planets and Krsna's central abode of Goloka Vrindavana.

Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are both permanent, beyond decay meaning they are eternally youthful, where there is no birth, old age, disease or death.

The material creation on the other hand is temporary and always in a state of continious maintenance because of decay.

Everything fades away (decays) over time in the material worlds (Brahmanda universes)

Because of this decomposition there is repeated birth, disease, old age and death which means the jiva-souls who have foolishly chosen to enter the material creation, must constantly change material bodies due to such material vessels being always in a state of decomposition leading to total breakdown (death).

Maha Visnu further expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu who resides deep inside a "secondary universe" inside the greater surrounding Brahmanda universe.

From Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Lord Brahma appears and creates (builds) the different planetary systems (lower, middle and heavenly) in each material universe within their Brahmanda, our inner material universe has 14 planetary systems in it.

The amount of planetary systems deep inside each Brahmanda universe within its secondary smaller universe, is based on how many heads each Brahma has, in our universe our Brahma has four heads.

However, other universes inside other Brahmandas can have many, many more planetary systems in them depending on how many heads their Lord Brahma has.

Some Brahmas have 20, 50, 100, 500, 50,000 or 10,000,000 heads which means many inner universes are massive.

Our "secondary material universe" with its 14 planetary systems that is deep inside our surrounding Brahmanda universe, is only 4 billion miles in diameter (12 billion 570 million in circumference) inside the Brahmanda universe according to the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

On the other hand, the massive size of the "Brahmanda universal shell" that encase our inner universe it is 44 quadrillion, 444 trillion, 444 billion miles in diameter.

This means our "Brahmanda" almost spherical universe is approximately 141 quadrillion, 252 trillion miles in circumference.

Or twice that figure if measured from the outer edge our inner secondary universe inside our Brahmanda universe, according to calculations in the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

Other Brahmanda universes in the material creation are much bigger than ours, found in all different sizes depending on how many heads each Brahma has as explained above.

So to be clear, deep inside each Brahmanda universe, Maha Visnu expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu, and from Him Lord Brahma appears from a lotus flower growing from Garbhodakashayi Visnu's naval, who then creates the inner secondary universe that houses the many planetary systems.

Maha Visnu expands again to a third Visnu known as the Ksirodakashayi Visnu (Supersoul or Paramatma) who accompanies all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) who choose to leave the Spiritual Worlds (3/4 of the Spiritual Sky) and enter the material creation (1/4 of the Spiritual Sky)

All the massive Brahmanda universes first enter the material creation through the bodily pores and each breath of Maha Visnu, and are destroyed when He breaths in.

The time between each breath of Maha Visnu (or between the creations of the many Brahmanda universes) in human years, is 311 trillion and 40 billion years which is also the life span of Brahma.

Once, when Krsna was ruling Dvaraka, Lord Brahma came to see Him, and the doorman immediately informed Lord Krsna of Brahma’s arrival.

When Krsna was informed, He immediately asked the doorman, 

"Which Brahma has come? What is his name?"

The doorman therefore returned and questioned Lord Brahma.

When the doorman asked, "Which Brahma are you?" 

Lord Brahma was surprised. He told the doorman, "Please go inform Lord Krsna that I am the four-headed Brahma who is the father of the four Kumaras."

The doorman then informed Lord Krsna of Lord Brahma’s description, and Lord Krsna gave him permission to enter.

The doorman escorted Lord Brahma in, and as soon as Brahma saw Lord Krsna, he offered obeisances at His lotus feet.

After being worshiped by Lord Brahma, Lord Krsna also honored him with suitable words. 

Then Lord Krsna asked him, "Why have you come here?"

Being questioned, Lord Brahma immediately replied,

"I shall later tell You why I have come but first there is a doubt in my mind which I wish You would kindly dissipate.

Why did you inquire which Brahma had come to see You? What is the purpose of such an inquiry? Is there any other Brahmas besides me within this universe?"

Upon hearing this, Krsna smiled and immediately meditated.

Then an unlimited number of Brahmas arrived instantly.

These Brahmas had different numbers of heads, some had ten heads, some twenty, some a hundred, some a thousand, some ten thousand, some a hundred thousand, some ten million and others a hundred million. 

No one can count the number of faces they had.

There also arrived many Lord Sivas with various heads numbering one hundred thousand and ten million. 

Many Indras also arrived, and they had hundreds of thousands of eyes all over their bodies.

When the four-headed Brahma of this universe saw all these opulences of Krsna, he became very bewildered and considered himself a rabbit among many elephants.

All the Brahmas who came to see Krsna offered their respects at His lotus feet, and when they did this, their helmets touched His lotus feet.

No one can estimate the inconceivable potency of Krsna. 

All the Brahmas who were there were resting in the one body of Krsna.

When all the helmets struck together at Krsna’s lotus feet, there was a tumultuous sound. 

It appeared that the helmets themselves were offering prayers unto Krsna’s lotus feet.

With folded hands, all the Brahmas and Sivas began to offer prayers unto Krsna, saying,

"O Lord, You have shown me a great favour. I have been able to see Your lotus feet."

All of them then said, 

"It is my great fortune, Lord, that You have called me, thinking of me as Your servant. Now let me know what Your order is so that I may carry it on my heads."

Krsna replied, "Since I wanted to see all of you together, I have called all of you here. All of you should be happy. Is there any fear from the demons?"

They replied, “By Your mercy, we are victorious everywhere”.

“Whatever burden was upon the earth You have taken away by descending on that planet."

This is the proof of Dvaraka’s opulence, all the Brahmas thought, 

"Krsna is now staying in my jurisdiction."

Thus the opulence of Dvaraka was perceived by each and every one of them. Although they were all assembled together, no one could see anyone but himself.

Krsna then bade farewell to all the Brahmas there, and after offering their obeisances, they all returned to their respective homes in their material universes.

After observing all these opulences, the four-headed Brahma of our universe was astonished. He again came before the lotus feet of Krsna and offered Him obeisances.

Brahma then said, 

"Whatever I formerly decided about my knowledge, I have just now had personally verified."

jananta eva janantu

kim bahuktya na me prabho

manaso vapuso vaco 

vaibhavam tava gocarah

There are people who say, 'I know everything about Krsna.' Let them think in that way. As far as I am concerned, I do not wish to speak very much about this matter.

O my Lord, let me say this much. As far as your opulence’s are concerned, they are all beyond the reach of my mind, body and words". 

This is from Srimad-Bhagavatam canto 10 Chapter 14 Text 38, spoken by Lord Brahma.

Krsna said, 

"Your particular universe extends four billion miles; therefore it is the smallest of all the universes. Consequently you have only four heads.

Some of the universes are one billion yojanas, some one trillion, some ten trillion and some one hundred trillion yojanas. Thus they are almost unlimited in area.

So according to the size of the universe, there are so many heads on the body of Brahma. 

In this way I maintain innumerable universes known as brahmandas" (as seen in the painting below that all originate from the Body of Maha-Visnu)

No one can measure the length and breadth of one fourth of My energy. Who can measure the three fourths that is manifested in the spiritual world?

Beyond the River Viraja is a spiritual nature, which is indestructible, eternal, inexhaustible and unlimited. 

It is the supreme abode consisting of three fourths of the Spiritual Sky. It is known as paravyoma, the spiritual sky. (Also adapted from Sri Caitanya Caritamrta Madhyalila chapter 21)*^*

The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) can NEVER exist independently from Krsna even though they can express their own independent free will that Krsna provides for the purpose of allowing variety in a "two-way" voluntary exchange of loving expressions, emotions and unique personal offerings.

The Sun-disc and the Sun-rays CANNOT exist separately from each other, similarly Krsna cannot exist separately from His devotees (parts and parcels)

Each "jiva-soul" (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind independent individual with their own unique personality different from other personalities including Kṛṣṇas.

No two individual jiva-souls are the same, and no jiva-souls can EVER become God (Krsna or Visnu).

Loving devotional service to Krsna is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" voluntary exchange of personal feelings manifesting as loving acts of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions (offerings) of devotional service to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will that does not deny the "free will" of each jiva-soul.

On the other hand, actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering forceful mood from a "so called God" in His Kingdom that does not allow personal voluntary contributions from the individual jiva-souls in a "two-way" exchange of feelings, is dangerous impersonalism.

Personalism means a "two-way" relationship that includes voluntary loving exchange of feelings that expands, enriches and multiplies loving affection, sentiment and exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.

Just like with the Sun-disc and the sun-rays (sunshine) there is no separation between the two similarly, the jiva-souls and Krsna can never be separated.

However, there is a difference between the Sun-disc and sun-rays, the molecules of the "sun-rays" are not equal to the massive "Sun-disc" that they emanate from.

Krsna (compared to the Sun-disc) and His marginal living entities or jiva-souls (compared to the sun-rays) are never equal, only Krsna's Visnu-tattva and Visnu-sakti-tattva direct expansions are almost equal to Krsna. 

In this way the jiva-souls are simultaneously one with Krsna yet at the same time different with individual personalities SEPARATE from Krsna's Personality. 

The jiva-souls are known as the "marginal potency" of Krsna's energies but are NOT the Visnu-tattva or Visnu-sakti-tattva living entity expansions of Krsna.

What is Visnu-sakti-tattva? 

Srila Prabhupada - "Tattva is manifested in different ways-

1 - Viṣṇu-tattva,

2 - Viṣṇu-śakti-tattva

3 - jīva-tattva,

like that". (Lecture on SB 6.2.7 -- Vrndavana, September 10, 1975)

Because the word "sakti refers to all the different categories of living entities including the jiva-souls, when sakti is refering to Radharani and other Visnu-tattva living entities, then word Visnu is put in front of sakti - Visnu-sakti-tattva, just so one knows who is the Supreme Lord and who is not.

As said above, Krsna is compared to the "Sun-disc" and the many different types of living entities like 

Visnu-tattva, 

Visnu-sakti-tattva, 

jiva-tattva souls. 

All are compared to the surrounding "sun-rays" in the category of Sakti (energy) who are dependent on Krsna, just like the sun-rays are dependent on the Sun-disc.

By this example we can also understand that the Sun-disc and the sun-rays can NEVER be separated meaning Krsna can never be separated from His parts and parcels (the many varieties of living entities mentioned above).

In other words Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, is ALWAYS surrounded by His parts and can NEVER be separated from them.

The various types of living entities are - 

1 - Visnu-tattva (Visnu/Narayana expansions who are different versions of Krsna's Personality) 

2 - Visnu-sakti-tattva (Radharani and many of Her associates who also are different versions of Krsna's Personality) 

3 - Jiva-tattva the independent marginal living entities (jiva-souls) who have their own individuality and Personality separate from Krsna's Personality unlike the above two.

All are eternal like Krsna, meaning they were NEVER created.

Although it is said Krsna created Radharani just to experience the love of a women however, this is a paradox because Radha and Krsna have eternally existed without beginning or end.

It does appear that some living entities are created because some expansions manifest for a particular lila or pastime however, within the "eternal presence" of Krsna their existence is without beginning or end because those pastimes are eternally going on in different places in the Spiritual Worlds.

From the Sun-disc, the Sun-rays (sunshine) exist simultaneously with the Sun-disc and were NEVER created separately, similarly this means Krsna and the living entities can NEVER exist without each other and have both ALWAYS existed.

Krsna is fully complete AS Himself, who can NEVER be alone because Krsna is EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING resides in Him

In this way Krsna is ALWAYS enjoying with His unlimited parts and parcels mentioned above, just like the Sun-disc is always shining magnificently AS the surrounding sun-rays that exist simultaneously with the Sun-disc.

The Sun-disc and the Sun-rays CANNOT exist separately from each other, similarly Krsna cannot exist separately from His parts and parcels the living entities.

Krsna without His expansions is not possible, just like the Sun-disc without the sun-rays is not possible.

There was never a time Krsna or the living entities did not exist as Kṛṣṇa says in Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 Text 12 -

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be".

The reason why Krsna is fully complete within Himself is understood in this way -

Kṛṣṇa is NEVER alone by himself, and has never been alone because EVERYTHING is situated in Him and simultaneously different from Him.

Krsna is an individual independent Person, and at the same time expands as many Persons making Krsna simultaneously one and different.

This means Krsna can NEVER be alone because He is already EVERYTHING and everything is ALWAYS part and parcel of Him.

Krsna's highest intimate association is ALWAYS with His eternal consort Srimati Rādhārāṇī, She is the internal potency of Krsna and eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, so how can Kṛṣṇa ever be alone? 

All the devotees of Krsna must win the attention of Srimati Radharani to get Krsna's favour, as all service to Krsna only reaches Him through Her.

Srila Prabhupada - "I offer my respects to Rādhārāṇī, whose bodily complexion is like molten gold and who is the Queen of Vṛndāvana. You are the daughter of King Vṛṣabhānu very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa.

So if we approach Kṛṣṇa through Rādhārāṇī, through the mercy of Rādhārāṇī, then it becomes very easy. If Rādhārāṇī recommends that "This devotee is very nice," then Kṛṣṇa immediately accepts, however fool I may be. Because it is recommended by Rādhārāṇī, Kṛṣṇa accepts.

Therefore in Vṛndāvana you'll find all the devotees, they're chanting more Rādhārāṇī's name than Kṛṣṇa's. Wherever you'll go, you'll find the devotees are addressing, "Jaya Rādhe." You'll find still in Vṛndāvana. They are glorifying Rādhārāṇī. They're more interested, worshiping Rādhārāṇī. Because however fallen I may be, if some way or other I can please Rādhārāṇī, then it is very easy for me to understand Kṛṣṇa.

However, if you go by the speculative process to understand Kṛṣṇa, it will take many, many lives. But if you take devotional service, just try to please Rādhārāṇī, and Kṛṣṇa will be gotten very easily. Because Rādhārāṇī can deliver Kṛṣṇa. She is so great devotee, the emblem of mahā-bhāgavata.

Even Kṛṣṇa cannot understand what is Rādhārāṇī's quality.

Even Kṛṣṇa, although He says vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26), "I know everything," still, He fails to understand Rādhārāṇī. Rādhārāṇī is so great.

Actually, Kṛṣṇa knows everything. In order to understand Rādhārāṇī, Kṛṣṇa accepted the position of Rādhārāṇī. Kṛṣṇa wanted to understand the potency of Rādhārāṇī. 

Kṛṣṇa thought that "I am full. I am complete in every respect, but still, I want to understand Rādhārāṇī.

 Why?" This propensity made Kṛṣṇa obliged to accept the propensities of Rādhārāṇī, to understand Kṛṣṇa, Himself.

One who is advanced in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and well conversant with the śāstras can understand this. When Kṛṣṇa wanted to understand Himself, He took the tendency of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. And that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

Rādhā-bhāva-dyuti-suvalitam

Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa, but He has accepted the propensities of Rādhārāṇī. As Rādhārāṇī is always in feelings of separation of Kṛṣṇa, similarly, in the position of Rādhārāṇī, Lord Caitanya was feeling separation of Kṛṣṇa. That is the teachings of Lord Caitanya, feelings of separation, not meeting.

The process of devotional service taught by Caitanya Mahāprabhu and His disciplic succession is how to feel separation from Kṛṣṇa. That is Rādhārāṇī's position, ALWAYS feeling the separation". (Srimati Radharani's Appearance Day, London, August 29, 1971)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy. 

Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. 

Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. 

But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt. (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Kṛṣṇa kills the demons outside Vṛndāvana, He is not original Kṛṣṇa; He is Vāsudeva. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19). When Kṛṣṇa is acting universally, that is Vāsudeva. Original Kṛṣṇa is ALWAYS in Vṛndāvana.

Jayatīrtha - "If the original Kṛṣṇa is always in Vṛndāvana, then why do the gopīs and Rādhārāṇī feel separation from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That is here, in this material world. In the spiritual world Kṛṣṇa does not leave.

Jayatīrtha - "Oh".

Srila Prabhupāda - "And even in the material world, Kṛṣṇa superficially has gone to Mathurā, but He has captured the heart of the gopīs. So He is not leaving. Gopīs are enjoying Kṛṣṇa by separation. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's feeling, how He is appreciating Kṛṣṇa by separation. (Morning Walk, July 17, 1975, San Francisco)

Guest - "What category is Radharani in?

Srila Prabhupada - "She is śakti, Cit-śakti. Bhagavān ke pleasure potency. Śakti, śakti-tattva, Śaktimān. Bhagavān is Śaktimān, and that śakti is Rādhārāṇī or Sītā or Lakṣmī. Durgā is also śakti, another feature of Rādhārāṇī".

Guest - "Śakti in original form is Rādhā?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes. Parāsya śaktih..., parāsya śaktir vividhaiva śrūyate (CC Madhya 13.65, purport). Originally cit-śakti. That cit-śakti is expanding. Just like we are..., rāmādi mūrtiṣu kalā-niyamena tiṣṭhan (Bs. 5.39). Kalā means part and parcel. So we are also part and parcel, but we are very small part and parcel. But rāmādi mūrti, they are bigger part and parcel.

Just like if you throw one brick on the floor, so there will be so many small particles, big particles, this particle, that. They are all part and parcel of the brick, but one part very small atomic part, and one big part, this part, this part, then this part, then this part. 

So all, Kṛṣṇa is the origin, and everyone is part and parcel. Some of them are bigger and some of them are smaller. So Viṣṇu-tattva is almost like Kṛṣṇa".

Guest - "Like Kṛṣṇa".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Others, they are very small. So according to the size, or according to the power..."

Guest - "Power".

Srila Prabhupāda - "The part and parcel exercises his position. Some of them are Viṣṇu-tattva, some of them are Jīva-tattva, some of them are Śakti-tattva and some of them para-tattva. Like that".

Guest - "Para-tattva?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Para-tattva is Bhagavān. Para-tattva means Kṛṣṇa, Rāma, Nārāyaṇa, Viṣṇu. These are all para-tattva. Bhagavān avatāra, rāmā, nṛsiṁha, varāha, kūrma, vāmana, daśāvatāra, all avatāra.

Or śakti-tattva, material energy, aparā-tattva, matter.

Similarly cit-tattva, spiritual world. The living entities, although they are in the material world, they belong to the spiritual world.

Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, apareyam. This material energy is inferior. Itas viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām. Beyond this material world is another, superior energy that includes jīva-bhūta and jiva-tattva". (Room Conversation, November 11, 1971, New Delhi)

This is the full expression of Lord Krsna's energies making Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes and is fully satisfied in Himself, enjoying through all of His different expansions.

Krsna is always with the jiva-souls, in fact all of His Visnu-tattva expansions and independent jiva-soul expansions are also found even within every atom.

Krsna is NEVER alone just like the Sun-disc is never alone due to the surrounding sun-rays (sunshine)

As said above, Krsna is compared to the Sun-disc and the different types of living entities are compared to the sun-rays, the Sun-disc and the sun-rays can never exist without each other, just like Krsna cannot exist without being surrounded by His parts and parcels (the living entities)

In this way, Krsna IS the Supreme Lord who is simultaneously one with all that there is, but at the same time different and independent from all of His expansions too.

Krsna's eternal consort Srimati Rādhārāṇī is the manifestation of His pleasure potency and was created by Krsna so He could experience the loving intimate exchanges with a women.

Guest - "Srila Prabhupāda, are we expansions of Rādhā?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No. Rādhā is the internal potency, we are marginal potency. Of course, originally, in that sense, everything is Kṛṣṇa's expansion. Sarvaṁ khalv idaṁ brahma. But even there are expansions... That is the difference between Māyāvāda philosophy and Vaiṣṇava philosophy.

Caitanya Mahāprabhu teaches acintya bhedābheda. We are always simultaneously one and different. Always. 

We should remember we are expansion of Kṛṣṇa, we are expansion of Rādhā also because Rādhā is also expansion of Kṛṣṇa. But still, different. That is our philosophy -

"One and different simultaneously - 

Acintya bhedābheda".

This is Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahāprabhu's philosophy which is known as "inconceivable simultaneously one and different".

This is explained in the Seventh Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā. The energies and the energetic is the same. Śakti-śaktimator abheda.

Just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays (sunshine) are seemingly the same and no different, the fact is the molecules of the sunshine particles (sun-rays) are NOT equal to the Sun-disc. 

These truths we shall always remember. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvāḥ. Therefore these are inconceivable. 

We are simultaneously one with Kṛṣṇa and Rādhā, and at the same time different". (Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are "one and the same", but They have assumed two bodies. Thus They enjoy each other, tasting the mellows of love. 

The two transcendentalists Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are a puzzle to materialists. 

The description of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa from the diary of Śrīla Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī is a condensed explanation, but one needs great spiritual insight to understand the mystery of these two personalities.

One is enjoying in two.

Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the potent factor, and Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency. 

According to Vedānta philosophy, there is no difference between the potent and the potency; they are identical. 

We cannot differentiate between one and the other, any more than we can separate fire from heat.

Everything in the Absolute is inconceivable in relative existence. Therefore in relative cognizance it is very difficult to assimilate this truth of the oneness between the potent and the potency. 

The philosophy of inconceivable oneness and difference propounded by Lord Caitanya is the only source of understanding for such intricacies of transcendence.

In fact, Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and She eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Impersonalists cannot understand this without the help of a mahā-bhāgavata devotee.

The very name “Rādhā” suggests that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is eternally the topmost mistress of the comforts of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. As such, She is the medium transmitting the living entities’ service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Devotees in Vṛndāvana therefore seek the mercy of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in order to be recognized as loving servitors of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.56, Translation and Purport)

As said above, all the devotees of Krsna must win the attention of Radharani to get Krsna's attention, as all service to Krsna only reaches Krsna by going through Her.

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī". (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38 Purport)

Krsna divided Himself into "two" so He could experience loving exchanges. For even Krsna, love can NEVER exist when there is just "one", there MUST be His expansions like Srimati Radharani and His Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva expansions that allow a two-way exchange.

Love can NEVER exist with just one, there always must be two for loving exchanges to exist.

To experience loving exchanges and emotions with a women, Krsna divided Himself into two, that women is Srimati Radharani.

Krsna wanted to experience loving emotions and affection with a women, this is why He divided Himself into "two" - Radha and Krsna, just so He could experience those loving exchanges.

Madhudviṣa Swami - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you spoke of inferior energy and superior energy. Those are two general categories. Are there other categories of energies besides that, and specifically how could we understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī Is She?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "She is spiritual energy".

Madhudviṣa Swami - "But is She jīva-bhūta or?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no, no. She is Kṛṣṇa. If everything is Kṛṣṇa and Rādhārāṇī is not Kṛṣṇa, what is that? Kṛṣṇa. He (She) is Kṛṣṇa. She is the Kṛṣṇa's pleasure potency".

Madhudviṣa Swami - "She is not jīva?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no, no. She is Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa divided Himself into His energy and Himself. That energy, original spiritual energy, is Rādhārāṇī. That is stated by Jīva Gosvāmī. Rādhā kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmāt. When Kṛṣṇa wants pleasure, He cannot accept the inferior energy.

The same superior energy, Kṛṣṇa, is divided into two. That is Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. And again, when they unite, that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Divided, they are Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, and united, Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya rādhā-kṛṣṇa nahe anya. Anya means another.

So Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya is combination of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. And when they are divided into two, that is Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. 

This is the purport. Rādhā kṛṣṇa praṇaya vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmād ekātmānāv api bhuvi purā deha-bhedaṁ gatau tau, śrī-caitanyākhyaṁ prakaṭam adhunā tad-dvayaṁ caikyam āptam [Cc. Ādi 1.5]. These are the conclusion. 

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa combination but He is playing the part of Rādhārāṇī to understand Kṛṣṇa. 

This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Rādhārāṇī is the chief gopī and all Her young girl friends, they are also gopīs. (Lecture on SB 2.1.1-5 -- Melbourne, June 26, 1974)

"Rādhikā is the transformation of Kṛṣṇa’s love. She is His internal energy called hlādinī". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.59, Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "Mind, senses and body are steeped in love for Kṛṣṇa. Radha is Kṛṣṇa’s own energy, She helps Him in His pastimes. 

Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is as fully spiritual as Kṛṣṇa. No one should consider Her to be material. 

She is definitely not like the conditioned souls, who have material bodies, gross and subtle, covered by material senses. 

She is all-spiritual, and both Her body and Her mind are of the same spiritual embodiment.

Because Her body is spiritual, Her senses are also spiritual. Thus Her body, mind and senses fully shine in love of Kṛṣṇa. 

She is the personified hlādinī-śakti (the pleasure-giving energy of the Lord’s internal potency), and therefore She is the only source of enjoyment for Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Śrī Kṛṣṇa cannot enjoy anything that is internally different from Him. Therefore Rādhā and Śrī Kṛṣṇa are identical. 

The sandhinī portion of Śrī Kṛṣṇa’s internal potency has manifested the all-attractive form of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and the same internal potency, in the hlādinī feature, has presented Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, who is the attraction for the all-attractive. 

No one can match Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in the transcendental pastimes of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.71, Translation and Purport)

"Just as the fountainhead, Lord Kṛṣṇa, is the cause of all incarnations, so Śrī Rādhā is the cause of all these consorts". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.76, Translation)

"Rādhā is the one who gives pleasure to Govinda, and She is also the enchantress of Govinda. 

She is the be-all and end-all of Govinda, and the crest jewel of all His consorts". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.82, Translation)

"The transcendental goddess Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the direct counterpart of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa. She is the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. 

She possesses all the attractiveness to attract the all-attractive Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of the Lord". (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.83, Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī. 

It is explained by the Gosvāmīs that Rādhārāṇī is the manifestation of the pleasure potency of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

When the Supreme Lord wants to derive transcendental pleasure, He has to create a woman from His internal potency and that women is Srimati Radharani" (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38, Purport)

Love can only exist when there are "two or more" involved in voluntary loving reciprocations and exchanges this is why Krishna created Radharani.

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be "one" or love cannot be executed only one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love''. (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 1 Chapter 2 text 6, Delhi, November 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda – ''Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there". (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Krsna is ALWAYS complete in Himself and is NEVER alone because within Krsna is EVERYTHING and therefore can become two personalities or more anytime likes.

For example, Krsna is always enjoying in Vrindavana with His consort Srimati Radharani, who Krsna created by dividing Himself into two just so He could experience loving exchanges with a women.

Krsna is "FULLY COMPLETE" as Himself that includes being simultaneously all of His unlimited expansions who are all part and parcel of Him.

In other words, just like the sun-disc is ONLY fully complete when surrounded by the Sun-rays (sunshine), Krsna's full potential of loving expressions are naturally ONLY fully complete when surrounded by His devotees headed by Srimati Radharani.

This is what it means when it is said Krsna is fully complete within Himself, because ALL living entities are His part and parcel.

For none devotees these teachings are inconceivable.

Krsna is "FULLY COMPLETE" as Himself enjoying unlimited pastimes as follows 

1 - With His internal energy headed by Srimati Radharani (Included as Visnu-sakti-tattva)

2 - His Visnu-tattva expansions on the Spiritual Vaikuntha Planets who are unlimited Visnu/Narayana expansions each with different names that also includes Maha Vishnu and Garbhodakashayi Visnu who manage the material creation.

Both Visnu-sakti-tattvas and Visnu-tattvas have 93.75% of Krsna’s qualities which means they have 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

The above two categories ARE direct expansions of Krsna's Personality who are also God where Krsna is playing a different role within His own pastimes.

3 - His Siva-tattva expansions (there are many personalities who are expansions of Siva too)

4 - His jiva-tattva expansions (marginal living entities or jiva-tattva-souls)

These two (Siva-tattva and the jiva-tattva souls) are NOT "God" meaning they are NOT Visnu-sakti-tattva (internal potency headed by Srimati Radharani) or Visnu-tattva (Narayana, Visnu, Maha Vishnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu etc).

Siva-tattva has 84.375% of Krsna's qualities, which means Siva has 55 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

The jiva-tattva souls have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities which means they have 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

Both Siva and the individual jiva-souls have independent individual personalities separate from Krsna's Personality, so they can NEVER become God like Visnu-tattva or Sakti-Visnu-tattva are.

However, the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are ALWAYS dependent on Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes being His parts and parcels.

Therefore the jiva souls can NEVER exist independently from Krsna even though they can express their free will that Krsna provides for the purpose of allowing a two-way voluntary exchange of loving expressions and emotions.

Krsna allows this free will that is only experienced in a two-way exchange of feelings because loving relationships can NEVER exist on a one-way platform.

The fact is nothing can be separated from Krsna even though the jiva-souls have their own separate identity and personality different from Krsna's Personality.

These living entities manifest as different categories of Krsna's energies, and can NEVER be separated from Krsna, just like the "sun-rays can NEVER exist separately from the "Sun-disc".

Krsna is NEVER alone due to EVERYTHING being completely situated within Him because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

"The cause of ALL causes" is significant here - meaning EVERYTHING is Krsna's manifestation.

Krsna is "simultaneously one and different", as an independent individual PERSON, and as His different expansions also.

EVERYTHING is part and parcel of Krsna, this is the top most realization of Krsna's full potential making Him the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

Krsna is naturally fully satisfied in Himself who, as His original form, never leaves Vṛndāvana, making Him simultaneously different from all of His other energies as an independent person. 

This allows Krsna to be fully complete in Himself and always satisfied and NEVER alone.

Krsna IS the Supreme Personal Lord (God) who has His own two armed individual bodily Form (Vigraha) as shown in His Vrindavana pastimes. 

Krsna is also simultaneously ALL the other living entities too who expand from Him just like the Sun-rays radiate from the Sun-disc.

For example-

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are "one and the same", but They have assumed two bodies. Thus They enjoy each other, tasting the mellows of love. 

One is enjoying in two, we cannot differentiate between one and the other, any more than we can separate fire from heat.

The philosophy of inconceivable oneness and difference propounded by Lord Caitanya is the only source of understanding for such intricacies of transcendence.

Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Impersonalists cannot understand this without the help of a mahā-bhāgavata devotee. The very name “Rādhā” suggests that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is eternally the topmost mistress of the comforts of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 

As such, She is the medium transmitting the living entities’ service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 

Devotees in Vṛndāvana therefore seek the mercy of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in order to be recognized as loving servitors of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.56, Translation and Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī". (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38 Purport)

As already explained, devotees must win the attention of Srimati Radharani to get Krsna's favour, as all service only reaches Krsna through Her.

As said above, REAL loving expressions can NEVER a on a "one way street", the jiva-souls MUST have their "free will" too that makes the relationship a "two way" exchange that allows loving voluntary offerings in the mood of reciprocation.

Srila Prabhupada clearly says without "free will" you are no better than DEAD stone, and to give up free will is impersonalism.

Therefore we must use our "free will" and act in ways that expands our loving exchanges with Krsna, and NEVER deny that free will or one's unique quality of self expression that all jiva-souls have as part of their eternal constitution.

This is what REAL Personalism is.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Sadly in some ISKCON Temples today still exists a very subtle expression of impersonalism, although it has improved a lot since the 1970s and 80s. 

Such impersonal leadership masquerading as Vaishnava Personalism, is actually dangerous impersonalism.

Devotees have to be encouraged to think for themselves and take responsibility for their own actions by being encouraged to make their own choices of how to voluntarily serve.

We should ALWAYS remember the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are PERSONALIST.

This means a PERSON naturally is involved in "two-way" loving exchange with Krsna in other words, being a contributing individual PERSON can NEVER manifest in a "one-way" mindless dictatorship.

Therefore being a PERSONALIST in the Spiritual World's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana means you MUST have your "free will" in order to express yourself voluntarily as an individual and contribute to those loving exchanges with Krsna.

Otherwise you are just a programmed "yes man or women" in a mindless collective who are never encouraged or nurtured to think for themselves by contributing from their own independent ability of self expression.

The Spiritual Worlds are NOT an impersonal collective of jiva-souls who all think and act in the same way like mindless robots in a factory who are always controlled and programmed by the factory owner.

Love is NEVER like that because it can NEVER exist on a "one way street", you MUST have your free will too, to make it a "two way" exchange of voluntary offerings.

As said above, the "Spiritual World's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are NOT a dictatorial "one way" or "one sided" impersonal directive or  affair, or a domineering demanding realm that denies personal contributions, where a so called God does all the thinking and decision making for everyone on how to serve.

No, the Spiritual Planets are NOT impersonal or emotionally dead like that.

The fact is, in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana (the Kingdom of God) there are ALWAYS loving exchanges, cooperation, personal unique individual contributions going on based on "free will", and loving enriching reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees because without these attributes there can NEVER be love.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Therefore "loyalty" is ALWAYS a "two way" street where the jiva-souls have their own unique individual personality seperate from Krsna's Personality, who is able to add their own personal unique expressions into the relationship that expands and forever enhances and enriches one's friendship with Krsna.

Krsna will NEVER "force" us to do what we do not "choose" to do in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana because we are NOT Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women who only do what they are told to think and act without providing personal voluntary contributions.

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

So clearly surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal, it does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless place for the individual jiva souls in their relationship with Krsna or God.

No, the Kingdom of God is not like that in anyway, there is ALWAYS voluntary loving exchanges of feelings and emotions going on based on reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. 

Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. 

That is spiritual life. 

There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Cintamani (or the Cintamani Stone), is a wish-fulfilling jewel in Goloka Vrindavana.

Cintamani is ALWAYS aspired to achieve by great devotes because they ONLY desire to please Krsna.

To say you have no desires in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana is Impersonalism or Mayavadi nonsense.

One NEVER loses "desires" in the Spiritual Worlds because THOSE desires are forever expanding to always please Krsna.

It is foolish to think one becomes desireless in the Spiritual Worlds, only impersonalist try to extinguish their desires.

Actually devotees increase their desires in both Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana because they desire to ALWAYS please Krsna more and more.*^*.