Past, present and future can be seen simultaneously Srila Prabhupada explains - "Arjuna can see EVERYTHING that exists in any part of the universe. Kṛṣṇa gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, "past, present and future". Thus by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, Arjuna is able to see EVERYTHING" BG 11.7 purport.

Could past, present and future exist simultaneously.

How could this be?

Bhagavad-gītā As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7

Translation

O Arjuna, whatever you wish to see, behold at once in this body of Mine! This universal form can show you whatever you now desire to see and whatever you may want to see in the future. Everything — moving and nonmoving — is here completely, in one place.

Purport by Srila Prabhupada 

No one can see the entire universe while sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe. But a devotee like Arjuna can see everything that exists in any part of the universe.

Kṛṣṇa gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, Arjuna is able to see EVERYTHING". (Bhagavad-gītā As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7)

The great sages and devotees in previous ages thousands of years ago were "tri-kāla-jñā".

Tri-kāla-jñā means they could understand EVERYTHING-

1 - What was in the past,

2 - What there shall be in the future,

3 - And what is at present.

Srila Prabhupada - ''So the point is that five thousand years ago the things which were written for this age, how they are coming to be true in our experience. That is the point: how they could see past, present, and future so nicely? The sages were known as tri-kāla-jñā. Tri means three. There is almost similarity, tri and three. Tri is Sanskrit, and three is English or Latin, but there is similarity. Tri-kāla-jñā.

Tri means three, and kāla means time.

Time is experienced by three ways:

1 - past

2 - present

3 - future. 

Time limitation, past, present and future. Whenever you speak of time, it is past, present or future.

So the sages in those days were tri-kāla-jñā. Tri-kāla-jñā means they could understand, they could know what was in the past, what there shall be in the future, and what is at present.

Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa says,

"My Dear Arjuna, you, Me, I, and all these kings and soldiers who have assembled in this battlefield, they were all individuals, and we are still individual. And in this past, in the future, we shall all remain individuals."

That past, present, and future, he explained.

Another place Kṛṣṇa says, vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26). Atītāni, atītāni means past. Vartamānāni ca, "and present." So that is yogic power.

One CAN know past, present, and future''. SB 12.2.1 -- San Francisco, March 18, 1968 (end of quote)

There is still a lot more to learn about the movement of the marginal living entity through material space and time divided into past, present and future. 

We have only scratched the surface in understanding Vedic texts in the 50 years since Srila Prabhupada made his valuable contribution to the Western World.

The movement of time is eternally divided into past, present and future while this material universe exists.

And all material bodily vessels or containers (within the 8 million 400 thousand species) are part and parcel of the fabric of the material energy controlled by time that governs and pervades this material temporary creation.

Matter or material energy is lifeless and takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky however, material energy is "moved" by life.

The individual jiva soul is accompanied by Paramatma (Vishnu) and enters the mundane material creation giving dead matter "movement".

In the material creation the jiva souls are simply the passengers riding in/on the fabric of material energy.

The individual marginal living entities or jiva-souls exists in those vessels given to them by Maha Vishnu according to their desires.

Also the reactions to past pious and impious actions also determine what type of a material body one gets.

So yes, it is possible to see past, present and future in the material creation all existing imultaneously 

Just like in a plane one see the an entire roadway, from its beginnings, to just middle, and where it ends.

HERE

Because of the material desires, the individual marginal living entity would eventually repeat themselves over eternity.

There is no harm in philosophical speculation as long as we do not deviate from sastra, how else are we to learn?

Many have asked, "could the past activities of Arjuna still be happening today somewhere in the universe with another jiva playing that part?"

Due to the past, present and future happening simultaneously, well could his bodily vessel also be a 'post' like Brahmas?

Meaning only those individual marginal living entities that are qualified can also experience their relationship with Krishna while in that vessel as Arjuna.

If this is true, the material universes are also repeating themselves except with a different batch of individual jiva souls possessing the material bodily vessels in each repetition or reoccurrence of the material universe.

Spiritual energy is made up of individual souls, spiritual energy is NOT all one.

However, material energy that makes up all material bodily vessels or containers is all one. For example when the material body we are in wears out and decays, it breaks down and merges back into the material elements or the earth around us.

Only the soul never decays and eternally remains an individual person.

Could the material universes concept of time of past, present and future exists all at the same time?

This means that all material bodily vessels, like yours and mine, are a permanent fixture of the particular material universe it is in and is eternally repeating itself as it goes through its temporary phases of existence in this impermanent universe.

Srila Prabhupada always encouraged us to have personal realizations and yes this one is more thought provoking that even Einstein believed was possible.

Keep in mind, the 'dreams' of Maha Vishnu are mind boggling and if Arjuna could view past, present and future simultaneously, maybe it all does exist together as he saw it.

I have not found anything on this subject to verify or deny these realizations but this would also mean time travel is possible because the past and future already exist however, it would impossible to change the past or future as it is fixed.

One is just traveling through what is already there, what already exists like traveling on a road that already exists.

Another example is just like when one rewinds a video tape, the contends captured will always be the same at every stage on the tape.

Similarly, there are some who believe that the body we are now in is like a 'post', meaning time and space itself is recorded on the eternal level in the material universe and we can take our next birth in a bodily vessel that has already existed in past time, present time or future time.

That means when we choose a bodily vessel, the pathway of that body is already existing in another time zone because each material body is a permanent fixture of this material universe known as the Maha-tattva.

What I am trying to say here is all the 'dreams' of Maha Vishnu are all happening 'now' which means past, present and future exist simultaneously and we can move into any bodily vessel that exists in the past, present or the future.

The material energy is all one but NOT the life force that is individual units as Prabhupada has taught us.

This is important to understand as there are many impersonalists who believe there is one all pervasive life force that moves through all material bodily species.

Their ideas are wrong and these ideas has nothing to do with such impersonalism.

In the material creation everything already exists like a long roadway already exists.

Similarly the pathway or roadway of the material bodily vessels, gross or subtle, that we possess, like the roadway, is already carved out and we are simply passengers on that roadway in that bodily vessel container for its journey.

In other words, one who worships the rich and famous can take birth in the material body they worship after being trained up to be qualified to take that birth which in itself would take many, many, many births just for the opportunity to be famous for one insignificant life time.

What a ignorant selfish waste of time.

If those souls in those material vessels knew what they had to go through to attain that famous bodily materialistic existence, they would have second thoughts about seeking material fame and wealth on this planet or the heavenly planets.

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Just like one can take the 'post' of Lord Brahma if they are qualified.

So all materials vessels are also "posts"  just like Lord Brahmas material body is also a post.

Yes I believe so.

Usually the most pious living entity in this material universe can take up the post of Lord Brahma when the next universe manifeasts.

In the same way; we are all awarded with a material bodily vessel according to our past pious and impious activities or karma.

All individual living entities perceive time as a chain of events moving through the roadway of past, present and future.

However, from above, like one sees from above a journey on a road where one sees the beginning, middle and end, means "materially" one can see all past, present and future exist together like every point on the journey of a roadway also does.

Conclusion

The explanation in the above essay is correctly suggesting that all material bodily vessels or pathways, ALWAYS exist in the dreams of Maha Vishnu.

This may give the impression of eternal repetition or occurrence but no, the material universe is in constant state of moving or flowing through the existence of past, present and future.

However, moving through the pathway of birth, childhood, youth, middle age, old age and death is the only reality repeatedly existing, but ONLY from the view of past, present and future.

In other words, what is seen from above the movement of material time, is all of Maha Vishnu's dream existing simultaneously.

This means all past, present and future are ALWAYS is existing.

This means a contand for others souls to also traverse.

What is said above in this essay, is all material bodily vessels or containers we are in, are always the property of Maha Vishnu and always remain part of His dreaming material creation.

In Maha Vishnu's dreams, every senerio conceivable is ALREADY existing past, present and future.

The dreams of Maha Vishnu's dreams are similar to a "costume shop" full of many different costumes (realities) one can choose to enter.

Every jiva-soul who enters the material creation, must go this so called costume shop of material bodily vessels or dress shop that are all created from the dreams of the sleeping Maha Vishnu.

This is where the jiva souls are offered a particular material bodily vessel by Maha Vishnu according to their material desires, so they can enter into the material creation with a suitable material body that is in accordance with their material desires.

Maha Vishnu owns all such material vessels that are part and parcel with everything else in the material creation He is dreaming.

Therefore, those who have chosen to enter the material creation, must go to Maha Vishnu's dreams and choose a material bodily vessel from His unlimited dreams of all material affairs.

Everything conceivable material bodily vessel or container, exists in Maha Vishnu's dreams, every scenario possible, no matter how strange or bizarre, already exists in the dreams of Maha Vishnu.

All that there is, all that there will be, every combination of material existence, already exists in His dreams.

It is these material bodies (coming from Maha Vishnu's dreams) all jiva-souls in all the billions of Brahmanda universes coming from Maha Vishnu, must choose from, just like one chooses from a variety of costumes from a Fancy dress store.

Regarding eternal associates of Krishna like Arjuna, there is a different set of rules.

The fact is, Arjuna is with Krishna in innumerable different material universes at one time, and there is only ONE spirit soul who is Arjuna.

The jiva-soul therefore of a surrendered soul to Krishna, CAN expand or project his consciousness into many different material bodies at once and be just the "one soul" in all those material bodies.

Yes this is very true as sastra tells us.

The fact is the jiva-soul in Arjuna's material bodily vessel is the same Arjuna in all the different universes.

This is achieved because the one jiva-soul (Arjuna) expands himself into many different material bodily vessels or containers (bodies) that are all also him, "just one soul" in his case.

Such actions of Arjuna is rare.

A yogi can also project his consciousness and be in 8 different material bodies at one time.

But this is NOT the case with every material bodily vessel in the material creation!

It is only some rare eternal associates of Krishna.

This is NOT the case with the different Lord Brahmas in each of their small universes that deep within and surrounded by the greater Brahmanda universal shell, is a different jiva-soul and not one jiva-soul.

So in every material bodily  vessel of Lord Brahma, there is a different jiva-soul every time Maha Vishnu dreams up all the billions of Brahmanda universes in the material creation.

All Brahmas are NOT the same "one soul" There are billions of different jiva-souls who become a Brahma in all the different univeses.

There are those who believe the material universe is continuously repeating itself each time Maha Vishnu creates the material Brahmanda universes, but is that true?

Actually, it only "seems" that way because everything that is, and can be, already exists within the dreams of Maha Vishnu.

This means the material universe, including all bodily vessels, is continuously existing with an endless flow of individual jiva souls possessing those material bodies (passing through them)

Therefore it only "seems" the material universe is repeating itself when in actual fact it isn't.

This is because each material vessel or container eternally exists within the material dreams of Maha Vishnu, and is therefore a permanent "post" that "always" exists as a pathway for visiting souls to simply travels through while in the material creation.

Remember all these material bodily containers ARE coming from the dreams of Maha Vishnu.

It is therefore the souls that move through the journey of material existence in a material body experiencing its birth, youth, middle age, disease, old age decline and decay, and its death and rebirth if one fails in getting out of this temporary material mundane world of repeated birth and death.

Being in a material bodily vessel or container, is like one who travels on a pathway or road that leads to a destination. The fact is, these "pathways" have always existed that many others have experienced and many more will experience (the journey of material bodily containers or vessels)

This is what is really happening in the material creation instead of eternal repetition.

Material existence is always moving through time (past, present and future) from its creation to annihilation (birth, youth, disease, old age, death) of material bodies.

This process "seemingly repeats" itself again and again when the material universe is created again by Maha Vishnu but that is NOT what is going on.

The fact is, in reality the material bodily vessels are a permanent fixture or post existing "within" the dreams of Maha Vishnu that jiva souls simply move through, like one moves on a roadway or path.

Another way of looking at this-

Just like there always exists a fancy dress shop in society where one can go and rent costumes to expeience a particular play, similarly every material bodily vessel conceivable exists in Maha Vishnu's "fancy dress shop of material costumes that one can rent if they desire" (From within His dreams that are available for all jiva-souls to rent).

Therefore each time the material universe is again created or manifests, a different batch of jiva-souls enters that pathway of material bodily vessels (costumes that cover the soul)

The fact is, like costumes in a fancy dress rental shop, all bodily vessels in the material universe are a permanent fixture within Maha Vishnu's dream of material creation.

The fact is, each material bodily "costume" is a permanent "post" within Maha Vishnu's dream of material existence that provides the experiences of birth, youth, disease, old age and death,

These material vessels or costumes always remains the property of Maha Vishnu's dreams

The cycle of material existence from creation to decay continues on eternally with the continuous flow of souls appearing in each material body at the beginning of that material bodies creation and experience its journey through to its annihilation or demise.

In other words, each time the universe is created and "seemingly" repeats itself, a different batch of soul takes the "post" or that material bodily vessel from Maha Vishnu's dreams.

Therefore, the next time around (the next material creation created by Maha Vishnu), all the exact same material bodily vessels will again exist, but with a new batch of jiva-souls in them.

This means within each material bodily vessel, exists a different soul playing that part, different from the previous occupant who played that exact same roll in the previous material creation.

This means the material universe "seems" to eternally be repeating it's self, but in actual fact it is fixed.

This is also called "Eternal repetition" meaning the MATERIAL universe exists again and again throughout all material time.

However, remember the "soul" is NOT the material bodily vessel.

The material body is only like a garment and the soul is a passenger in that garment or riding in the material body.

The Brahmanda outer shell or covering of our inner small universe is made up of 7 material layers that is 44 quadrillion, 444 trillion, 444 billion miles in diameter.

Understanding our "Brahmanda housing dome" which is a massive egg shaped yet almost spherical covering that houses our small material universe deep within it.

Our individual universe, with its 14 planetary systems, is found deep inside the massive Brahmanda shell that surrounds and encases our small universe within known as Bhu-Mandala which is just 4 billion miles in diameter.

All the 14 Planetary Systems are in the stem coming from the Body of Garbhodakashayi Vishnu explained in Srimad Bhagavatam canto 1 Chapter 3 Text 2 -

"Within the stem of the lotus there are fourteen divisions of planetary systems, and the earthly planets are situated in the middle".

However, there is a deeper understanding here as well

Srila Prabhupada - "All these planetary systems are scattered over the complete universe, which occupies an area of "two billion times two billion square miles". SB 2.5.40-41, Purport

Question - "I have heard that all of the planets are in the stem of the lotus from which Brahma took birth. How can that be?

Answer by the late Sadaputa dasa - "This is stated in SB 1.3.2p. Since the planetary systems are distributed throughout the universal globe, it must be that the stem encompasses everything within this globe.

We should note that the standard pictures we see of Brahma sitting on the lotus flower are three-dimensional representations of a scene that cannot be seen using our ordinary senses.

Although the pictures show the lotus stem emerging from the navel of Garbhodakashayi Vishnu, Brahma himself was unable to locate the origin of the stem.

Thus, part of the scene was beyond the senses of Brahma, and so it is certainly beyond the reach of our senses.

We also note that the planetary systems were created by Brahma from the lotus (SB 3.10.7-8).

This suggests that these systems were produced by transforming the substance of the lotus".

The Brahmanda outer shell or covering is made up of  7 material layers that is 44 quadrillion, 444 trillion, 444 billion miles in diameter.

The 7 layers are - (From S B Canto 6 Chapter 16 Text 37)

1 - EARTH,
2 - WATER,
3 - FIRE,
4 - AIR,
5 - SKY,
6 - TOTAL MATERIAL ENERGY,
7 - FALSE EGO.

Srimad Bhagavatam says there are millions of individual Brahmanda universes coming from Maha Vishnu making up the entire material creation (1/4 of the Spiritual Sky) that also house their own inner universe.

All smaller universes inside their Brahmanda are of different sizes, some, like ours, are only 4 billion miles in diameter.

The "4 billion miles (500,000,000 Yojanas)" diameter of our universe with its 14 planetary systems is one of the smallest.

In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 26 text 52 in Purport Srila Prabhupada states -

"The space within the hollow of the universe cannot be measured by any human scientist or anyone else."

This also suggests that something unexpected must happen to space (as well as time) as one approaches the outer universal Brahmanda shell, for it hardly seems impossible to measure a distance of 2 billion miles in ordinary space.

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have to imagine that these universes (Brahmandas), which according to our limited knowledge are expanded unlimitedly, are so great that the gross and subtle ingredients—the five elements of the cosmic manifestation, namely earth, water, fire, air and sky, along with the total material energy and false ego—are not only within the universe but cover the universe in seven layers, each layer ten times bigger than the previous one.

In this way, each and every universe is very securely packed, and there are numberless universes. All these universes float within the innumerable pores of the transcendental body of Mahā-Viṣṇu.

It is stated that just as the atoms and particles of dust are floating within the air along with the birds and their number cannot be calculated, so innumerable universes are floating within the pores of the transcendental body of the Lord. For this reason, the Vedas say that God is beyond the grasp of our knowledge. '' Krsna Book 87

We CANNOT see from one universe to another, this is because our individual universe is surrounded and encased by 7 thick material layers that is our outer egg shaped universe called a Brahmanda.

So it is impossible to see the millions of other Brahmandas outside our inner universe (inside a massive Brahmanda) because of those 7 thick material layers that only rare mystic yogis and advanced devotees like Arjuna can see and pass through.

So of course Krishna and Arjuna did not encounter such limitations that we experience with the combination of these elements like earth, water, fire all gross elements as Bhagavad Gita explains.

Srila Prabhupada - ''The Lord is not visible to the eyes of ordinary men, those who are beyond the covering layers because of their transcendental devotional service can still see Him''. Krsna Book 87

We cannot see through our Brahmanda that surrounds and encases our small universe, Srila Prabhupada is clear on this

Srila Prabhupada - ''Lord Krishna and Arjuna crossed over the great region of darkness covering the material universes. Arjuna then saw the effulgence of light known as the brahmajyoti. The brahmajyoti is situated ''outside the covering of the material universes'', and because it cannot be seen with our present eyes, this brahmajyoti is sometimes called avyakta''. Krsna Book, 89

Srila Prabhupada - ''Each universe is covered by various layers of material elements (The 7 layers of the outer Brahmanda covering), and therefore although the universes are clustered together, we CANNOT see from one universe to another. In other words, whatever we see is within this one universe. In each universe there is one Lord Brahmā, and there are other demigods on other planets, but there is only one sun''.- (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 21 Text 11, Purport)

Every universe is covered by seven layers—earth, water, fire, air, sky, the total energy and false ego—each ten times greater than the previous one. There are innumerable universes besides this one, and although they are unlimitedly large, they move about like atoms in You. Therefore You are called unlimited [ananta].

PURPORT

This verse describes the coverings of the universe (saptabhir daśa-guṇottarair aṇḍa-kośaḥ).

1 - The first covering is EARTH,
2 - the second is WATER,
3 - the third is FIRE,
4 - the fourth is AIR,
5 - the fifth is SKY,
6 - the sixth is the TOTAL MATERIAL ENERGY,
7 - the seventh is the FALSE EGO.

Beginning with the covering of earth, each covering is ten times greater than the previous one. Thus we can only imagine how great each universe is, and there are many millions of universes". (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 6 Chapter 16 Text 37)

As confirmed by the Lord Himself in Bhagavad-gītā (BG 10.42): -

athavā bahunaitena
kiṁ jñātena tavārjuna
viṣṭabhyāham idaṁ kṛtsnam
ekāṁśena sthito jagat

"But what need is there, Arjuna, for all this detailed knowledge? With a single fragment of Myself I pervade and support this entire universe."

The entire material world manifests is only one fourth of the Supreme Lord's energy. Therefore He is called ananta''.

In the purport in Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 2 Text 28-

"Śrīla Śrīdhara Svāmī confirms that a part of the material nature, after being initiated by the Lord, is known as the mahat-tattva.

A fractional portion of the mahat-tattva is called the false ego. A portion of the ego is the vibration of sound, and a portion of sound is atmospheric air.

A portion of the airy atmosphere is turned into forms, and the forms constitute the power of electricity or heat.

Heat produces the smell of the aroma of the earth, and the gross earth is produced by such aroma. And all these combined together constitute the cosmic phenomenon.

The extent of the cosmic phenomenon or our individual universe is calculated to be diametrically four billion miles in size.

Then the outer covering known as the Brahmanda shell begins.

The first covering of Earth is calculated to extend forty billion miles, (10 times the size of the inner universe) and the subsequent coverings of the universe are respectively of water, fire, air, sky, total material energy, false ego one after another, each extending ten times further than the previous.

The fearless devotee of the Lord penetrates each one of them and ultimately reaches the absolute atmosphere where everything is of one and the same spiritual identity.

Then the devotee enters one of the Vaikuṇṭha planets, where he assumes exactly the same form as the Lord and engages in the loving transcendental service of the Lord.

That is the highest perfection of devotional life. Beyond this there is nothing to be desired or achieved by the perfect yogī."

It is also says in Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 26 Text 52 -

Srila Prabhupada  - "The dimensions of the universe are estimated here. The outer covering is made of layers of water, air, fire, sky, ego and mahat-tattva, and each layer is ten times greater than the one previous.

The space within the hollow of the universe cannot be measured by any human scientist or anyone else, and beyond the hollow there are seven coverings, each one ten times greater than the one preceding it.

The layer of water is ten times greater than the diameter of the universe, and the layer of fire is ten times greater than that of water.

Similarly, the layer of air is ten times greater than that of fire. These dimensions are all inconceivable to the tiny brain of a human being."

In Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 29 Text 43 Prabhupada says -

Srila Prabhupada  - "It is understood from this verse that all the planets in outer space are floating, and they all hold living entities.

The word svasatam means "those who breathe," or the living entities. In order to accommodate them, there are innumerable planets. Every planet is a residence for innumerable living entities, and the necessary space is provided in the sky by the supreme order of the Lord.

It is also stated here that the total universal body is increasing. It is covered by seven layers, and as there are five elements within the universe, so the total elements, in layers, cover the outside of the universal body.

The first layer is of earth, and it is ten times greater in size than the space within the universe;

The second layer is water, and that is ten times greater than the earthly layer;

The third covering is fire, which is ten times greater than the water covering. In this way each layer is ten times greater than the previous one.

In the above mentioned purports to Srimad  Bhagavatam seemingly gives contradictory information that can make things confusing to scholars. (SB 2.2.28 and SB 3.26.52 says it is water and SB 3.29.43 says it is earth)? Furthermore, what is the breadth of the first layer?

The purport to Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 2 Text 28 says it is 80,000 000 miles while the diameter of the universe is 4 000,000,000 miles. This does not add up and is seemingly incorrect.

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 29 Text 43 says the first layer is 10 times greater in size than the space within (our 4 billion mile diameter inner universe) the universe.

BUT 80 million miles diameter is definitely not 4 billion miles X 10, this is a possibly a typing error in the editing of the Book.

We are deep inside a larger Universe made of 7 material layers. That larger material Universe is called a Brahmanda that surrounds and encases our small universe in its middle.

Understanding our Brahmanda that surrounds and encases our small universe that is deep inside it.

Srimad Bhagavatam says there are millions of individual Brahmanda universes all coming from Maha Vishnu.

However, deep inside each of these Brahmanda universe is a smaller secondary universe, some of these secondary universes inside their Brahmanda are only 4 billion miles in diameter like ours.

Our "4 billion miles (500,000,000 Yojanas)" diameter of our universe with its 14 planetary systems is one of the smallest

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have to imagine that these universes (Brahmandas), which according to our limited knowledge are expanded unlimitedly, are so great that the "gross and subtle ingredients"—the five elements of the cosmic manifestation, namely earth, water, fire, air and sky, along with the total material energy and false ego—are not only within the universe but cover the universe in seven layers, each layer ten times bigger than the previous one.

In this way, each and every universe is very securely packed, and there are numberless universes. All these universes float within the innumerable pores of the transcendental body of Mahā-Viṣṇu.

It is stated that just as the atoms and particles of dust are floating within the air along with the birds and their number cannot be calculated, so innumerable universes are floating within the pores of the transcendental body of the Lord. For this reason, the Vedas say that God is beyond the grasp of our knowledge. '' Krsna Book 87

We CANNOT see from one universe to another, this is because our individual universe is surrounded and encased by 7 thick material layers that is our outer egg shaped universe called a Brahmanda.

So it is impossible to see the millions of other Brahmandas outside our inner universe (inside a massive Brahmanda) because of being surrounded by 7 thick material layers that only rare mystic yogis and advanced devotees like Arjuna can see and pass through.

So of course Krishna and Arjuna did not encounter such limitations we experience by the combination of these elements like earth, water, fire all gross elements as Bhagavad Gita explains.

Srila Prabhupada - ''The Lord is not visible to the eyes of ordinary men, those who are beyond the covering layers because of their transcendental devotional service can still see Him''. Krsna Book 87

We cannot see through our Brahmanda that surrounds and encases our small universe, Srila Prabhupada is clear on this

Srila Prabhupada - ''Lord Krishna and Arjuna crossed over the great region of darkness covering the material universes. Arjuna then saw the effulgence of light known as the brahmajyoti. The brahmajyoti is situated ''outside the covering of the material universes'', and because it cannot be seen with our present eyes, this brahmajyoti is sometimes called avyakta''. Krsna Book, 89

Srila Prabhupada - ''Each universe is covered by various layers of material elements (The 7 layers of the outer Brahmanda covering), and therefore although the universes are clustered together, we CANNOT see from one universe to another. In other words, whatever we see is within this one universe. In each universe there is one Lord Brahmā, and there are other demigods on other planets, but there is only one sun''.- Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 21 Text 11, Purport:

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 6 Chapter 16 Text 37

''Every universe is covered by seven layers—earth, water, fire, air, sky, the total energy and false ego—each ten times greater than the previous one. There are innumerable universes besides this one, and although they are unlimitedly large, they move about like atoms in You. Therefore You are called unlimited [ananta]''.

PURPORT

This verse describes the coverings of the universe (saptabhir daśa-guṇottarair aṇḍa-kośaḥ).

The first covering is earth,
the second is water,
the third is fire,
the fourth is air,
the fifth is sky,
the sixth is the total material energy,
the seventh is the false ego.

Beginning with the covering of earth, each covering is ten times greater than the previous one. Thus we can only imagine how great each universe is, and there are many millions of universes.

As confirmed by the Lord Himself in Bhagavad-gītā (BG 10.42):

athavā bahunaitena
kiṁ jñātena tavārjuna
viṣṭabhyāham idaṁ kṛtsnam
ekāṁśena sthito jagat

"But what need is there, Arjuna, for all this detailed knowledge? With a single fragment of Myself I pervade and support this entire universe."

The entire material world manifests only one fourth of the Supreme Lord's energy. Therefore He is called ananta''.

Garbhodakaśāyī Vishnu below in painting is an expansion of Mahā Vishnu a.k.a. Kāraṇodakaśāyī Vishnu

Garbhodakaśāyī Vishnu below in painting is an expansion of Mahā Vishnu.

In Gaudīya Vaishnavism the Sātvata-tantra describes three different forms of Vishnu as:

1 - Mahā Vishnu a.k.a. Kāraṇodakaśāyī Vishnu
2 - Garbhodakaśāyī Vishnu Seen in painting below)
3 - Ksirodakaśāyī Vishnu (Paramātmā).

Each form has a different role in the maintenance of the Universe and its inhabitants.

"For material creation, Lord Krishna's plenary expansion assumes three Vishnus.

1 - The first, Mahā Viṣhṇu, creates the total material energy, known as the mahat-tattva.

2 - The second, Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, enters into all the universes to create diversities.

3 - The third, Kṣīrodakaśāyī Vishnu, is diffused as the all-pervading super soul in all the universes; in the heart of every living being, is known as Paramātmā.

He is present even within the atoms.The real objective of meditation in Yoga is attaining a state of Paramātmā. Anyone who realises them can be liberated from material entanglement."

Garbhodhakaśāyī Viṣṇu is an expansion of Mahā Viṣṇu (expansion of Saṃkarṣaṇa of second caturvyūha, which expands from Nārāyaṇa in Vaikuṇṭhaloka).

Garbhodhakaśāyī Vishnu is realized as the form of Pradyumna within the material universe .

He is the father of Brahmā who appeared from His navel and hence Garbhodakashayi Vishnu is also called Hiraņyagarbha.

The rare appearance of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu explained -

Harinam Sankirtan is the greatest gift given to this world!

Harinam Sankirtan is Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s great gift to this particular Kali-yuga and it’s very rare because Lord Caitanya does not come to every Kali-yuga.

He only comes to just "one" Kali-yuga out of every 1000 which is once in a day/night of Brahma or once every 8 billion 640 million human years.

There are 1000 Kali-yuga’s in one-half day (day-time only) of Lord Brahmas time (Sunrise to Sunset)

It takes 4 billion 320 million human years for 1000 Maha-yugas to pass from Brahma's day from Sunrise to Sunset.

There are no Maha-yugas (also known as a Divya-yugas) during Brahma's night (Sunset to Sunrise).

A Maha-yuga is a cycle of

Satya,
Treta,
Dvāpara,
Kali-yuga’s.

They all happens, as said above, during Lord Brahma’s Sunrise to Sunset day-time period taking 4 billion 320 million earth or human years.

Then add the same duration of time (4 billion 320 million earth or human years) for Brahma’s inactive night from sunset to sunrise making a 24 hour day 8 billion 640 million human years.

So we must understand that Lord Caitanya's appearance in just one Kali-yuga, (the same Kali-yuga we are in now), is very, very rare.

This means Lord Caitanya does not appear in the other 999 Kali-yugas during Brahma’s day time period from sunrise to sunset.

The time of Brahma's night between sunset and sunrise is when this material universe experiences a partial annihilation. This happens over a period of 4 billion 320 million human years which is Brahma's night.

So one "day-night 24 hour period" of Brahma equals 8 billion 640 million human years as already explained.

Lord Caitanya therefore comes “once” in a 24 hour day of Lord Brahma at the beginning of a Kali-yuga.

And so does Lord Krishna in His original Vrindavana  Form, who also  comes "once" in a 24 hour day of Brahma at the end of a Dvāpara-yuga.

Only fools attempt to find permanent comfort, pleasure and happiness in these temporary material bodily vessels that are always in a constant state of decay, decline and maintenance.

Such material vessels the jiva-soul is in, eventually grows old, diseased and end up being food for maggots and worms. 

We are NOT these material bodies we are presently in!

Srila Prabhupada - "Devotees do not need to attend the slaughter houses of modern society called Western mundane universities. The modern education means simply a craftsmanship. If you can prepare a nice motor car, this is craftsmanship. It is the blacksmith’s work. It is not knowledge. Real knowledge is different, therefore the modern education system only creates dogs because they lack real knowledge of the jiva-soul. So modern education has no real knowledge. Real knowledge begins in the Bhagavad-gita." (1976 lecture Melbourne Australia)

We must all get back to basics and back to where we eternally belong.

That place is Goloka Vrindavana or the Vaikuntha planets that never decay and never fade away.

This temporary material creation is in a state of decay, decline and in need of constant maintenance and is not our real home and never was.

Even for those proud of their material bodily standing and it's accadmic knowledge of even the Vedas (Like the story of the proud arrogent brahman and the prostitute) nothing lasts within this material universe, everything here fades away over time because all things, including our material bodily vessels, are constantly in a state of decomposition.

This material universe is always in a state of dis-repair, it is simply not our real home and not fit for any jiva-soul to stay in.

Therefore we shouldn't even be here!! It was a mistake we foolishly chose to came here from Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana in the first place.

Fortunately less that 10% of jiva-souls in the spiritual world make that foolish mistake by volunteering (choose) to enter the material world by forgetting Krsna. 

Actually over 90% of jiva-souls never make that choice and have no interest in forgetting Krsna and then entering material existence.

The fact is, we can never find permanent satisfaction and happiness in this alien environment called the material creation.

Only fools try to find comfort and permanent pleasure and happyness in these temporary material bodily vessels that eventually grow old, diseased and end up being food for maggots and worms.

Therefore, the goal of human life is to get out of this material universe and bodily vessel and not try to make ourselves comfortable in the material creation.

Our only desire should be to go back home back to Godhead (Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana) and also not desire to enter the higher material heavenly planets, or being born in a wealthy pious family within this material universe.

We should be learning from a young age we are the individual jiva-soul within these material bodily containers, and that material endeavor’s for loving relationships, wealth and fame will not solve the main problems of birth, disease, old age and death.

It must be emphasized that the purpose of this very rare human form of life is to get out of this material world and not try and build the kingdom of God without God, like the degraded present age of Kali-yuga Governments around the world are attemping to do today.

Such endevours will never succeed as Prabhupada explains here-

Srila Prabhupada - ''When the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But when the supreme marginal potency is in contact with the spiritual potency, Harā, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity." (The Happening Record Album 1966 New York City, New York, USA)

Photo above - ISKCON Gurukula Murwillumbah April 1986.

The followers of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu who DO follow the words "hate the sin and NOT the sinner" know that Lord Caitanya forgave the abusive drunkards Jagai and Madhi on the plea for mercy by His brother Nityananda prabhu.

We are aspiring Vaishnavas first in this age.

The followers of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu who DO follow the words "hate the sin and NOT the sinner" know that Lord Caitanya forgave the abusive drunkards Jagai and Madhi on the plea for mercy by His brother Nityananda prabhu.

He was reminded in this particular rare Kali-yuga He has come to forgive and save the most fallen above everything else, even the most sinful can be saved and NOT killed by so called Kshatriya that do NOT exist in Kali-yuga anyway.

Lord Caitanya rejected the Varna ashrama system telling us that the REAL yuga dhama today is the Sankirtan Movement of congregational chanting of Hare Krishna.

He said there is no other way in the Age of Kali-yuga.

In this age everyone is lower than sudra anyway, there are no real Brahmins, Kshatriya and Vaishya anymore.

Remember Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu only comes to just "one" Kali-yuga out of every 1000, this Kali-yuga is very, very rare.

In this age the forgiveness of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's patita pavana teaching is far more powerful that the violent sword of a so called Kshatriya.

We must learn to hate the sin and NOT the sinner who can be saved by chanting Hare Krishna.

A disciple should be extremely careful not to commit again any sinful act that might cause difficulties for himself and the spiritual master.

Srila Prabhupada - "A devotee sometimes accepts a sinful person as his disciple, and to counteract the sinful reactions he accepts from the disciple, he has to see a bad dream.

Nonetheless, the spiritual master is so kind that in spite of having bad dreams due to the sinful disciple, he accepts this troublesome business for the deliverance of the victims of Kali-yuga.

After initiation, therefore, a disciple should be extremely careful not to commit again any sinful act that might cause difficulties for himself and the spiritual master.

Before the Deity, before the fire, before the spiritual master and before the Vaiṣṇavas, the honest disciple promises to refrain from all sinful activity.

Therefore he must not again commit sinful acts and thus create a troublesome situation".

From Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 8 Chapter 4 Text 15

Srila Prabhupada - ""But unless one is favored by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one cannot understand His supreme glories" SB 4:29:42-44 purport

Here the distance between Earth and the Sun is revealed

Srila Prabhupada  - "The distance from the sun to the earth is 100,000 yojanas" (8 hundred thousand miles away).

(NOTE - The late Sadaputa prabhu never accepted that figure to be taken literally and has a further deeper meaning. He agrees with modern science view that the Sun is 93 millions miles from Earth and the Moon is 238,000 miles from Earth)

Srila Prabhupada  - ""But unless one is favored by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one cannot understand His supreme glories" SB 4:29:42-44 purport

The polar star of the universe and the circle thereof is called the Śiśumāra circle, and therein the local residential planet of the Personality of Godhead (Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu) is situated.

Before reaching there, the mystic passes over the Milky Way to reach Brahmaloka, and while going there he first reaches Vaiśvānara-loka, where the demigod controls fire.

On Vaiśvānara-loka the yogī becomes completely cleansed of all dirty sins acquired while in contact with the material world.

The Milky Way in the sky is indicated herein as the way leading to Brahmaloka, the highest planet of the universe. (Srimad Bhagavatam 2:2:24 purport).

The individual soul is forever a servant of the Supersoul, and therefore his relationship with the Supersoul is to offer service.

That is called bhakti-yoga, or bhakti-bhāva.

Dhruva Mahārāja offered his prayers to the Lord not in the way of the impersonalist philosophers, but as a devotee.

Therefore, it is clearly said here, bhakti-bhāva. The only prayers worth offering are those offered to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, whose reputation is spread far and wide.

Dhruva Mahārāja wanted to have the kingdom of his father, but his father refused even to allow him to get on his lap.

In order to fulfill his desire, the Lord had already created a planet known as the polestar, Dhruvaloka, which was never to be annihilated even at the time of the dissolution of the universe.

Dhruva Mahārāja attained this perfection not by acting hastily, but by patiently executing the order of his spiritual master, and therefore he became so successful that he saw the Lord face to face.

Now he was further enabled, by the causeless mercy of the Lord, to offer fitting prayers to the Lord. To glorify or offer prayers unto the Supreme, one needs the Lord's mercy.

One cannot write to glorify the Lord unless one is endowed with His causeless mercy. (Srimad Bhagavatam 4:9:5 purport).

Although the polestar existed before its occupation by Dhruva Mahārāja, it had no predominating deity.

Dhruvaloka, our polestar, is the center for all other stars and solar systems, for all of them circle around Dhruvaloka just as a bull crushes grains by walking around and around a central pole.

Dhruva wanted the best of all planets, and although it was a childish prayer, the Lord satisfied his demand.

A small child may demand something from his father which his father has never given to anyone else, yet out of affection the father offers it to the child; similarly, this unique planet, Dhruvaloka, was offered to Mahārāja Dhruva.

The specific significance of this planet is that until the entire universe is annihilated this planet will remain, even during the devastation which takes place during the night of Lord Brahmā.

There are two kinds of dissolutions, one during the night of Lord Brahmā and one at the end of Lord Brahmā's life.

At the end of Brahmā's life, selected personalities go back home, back to Godhead. Dhruva Mahārāja is one of them. (Srimad Bhagavatam 4:9:20-21purport).

In this verse the word nāvartate is very significant. The Lord says,

"You will not come back to this material world, for you will reach mat-sthānam, My abode."

Therefore Dhruvaloka, or the polestar, is the abode of Lord Viṣṇu within this material world. Upon it there is an ocean of milk, and within that ocean there is an island known as Śvetadvīpa.

It is clearly indicated that this planet is situated above the seven planetary systems of the ṛṣis, and because this planet is Viṣṇuloka, it is worshiped by all other planetary systems.

It may be questioned here what will happen to the planet known as Dhruvaloka at the time of the dissolution of this universe.

The answer is simple: Dhruvaloka remains, like other Vaikuṇṭhalokas beyond this universe.

Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura has commented in this connection that the very word nāvartate indicates that this planet is eternal. (Srimad Bhagavatam 4:9:25 purport).

According to astronomical calculation, along with the polestar there is another star, which is called Śiśumāra, where Lord Viṣṇu, who is in charge of the maintenance of this material world, resides.

Śiśumāra or Dhruvaloka can never be reached by anyone but the Vaiṣṇavas, as will be described by the following ślokas.

The associates of Lord Viṣṇu brought the special airplane for Dhruva Mahārāja and then informed him that Lord Viṣṇu had especially sent this airplane.
(Srimad Bhagavatam 4:12:27 purport).

Each and every planet within the universe travels at a very high speed.

From a statement in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is understood that even the sun travels sixteen thousand miles in a second.

And from Brahma-saṁhitā we understand from the śloka, yac-cakṣur eṣa savitā sakala-grahāṇām that the sun is considered to be the eye of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Govinda, and it also has a specific orbit within which it circles.

Similarly, all other planets have their specific orbits.

But together all of them encircle the polestar, or Dhruvaloka, where Dhruva Mahārāja is situated at the summit of the three worlds.

We can only imagine how highly exalted the actual position of a devotee is, and certainly we cannot even conceive how exalted is the position of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. (Srimad Bhagavatam 4:12:39 purport).

The speculators, the jñānīs, go on speculating about the Supreme Personality of Godhead for many, many hundreds of thousands of years, "but unless one is favored by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one cannot understand His supreme glories".

All the great sages mentioned in this verse have their planets near Brahmaloka, the planet where Lord Brahmā resides along with four great sages—

Sanaka,
Sanātana,
Sanandana,
Sanat-kumāra.

These sages reside in different stars known as the southern stars, which circle the polestar.

The polestar, called Dhruvaloka, is the pivot of this universe, and all planets move around this polestar.

All the stars are planets, as far as we can see, within this one universe.

According to Western theory, all the stars are different suns, but according to Vedic information, there is only one sun within this universe.

All the so-called stars are but different planets.

Besides this universe, there are many millions of other universes, and each of them contains similar innumerable stars and planets.(Srimad Bhagavatam 4:29:42-44 purport).

We should always remember that the Ganges River comes from the Causal Ocean, beyond the covering of the universe.

After the water of the Causal Ocean leaks through the hole created by Lord Vāmanadeva, it flows down to Dhruvaloka (the polestar) and then to the seven planets beneath Dhruvaloka.

Then it is carried to the moon by innumerable celestial airplanes, and then it falls to the top of Mount Meru, which is known as Sumeru-parvata.

In this way, the water of the Ganges finally reaches the lower planets and the peaks of the Himalayas, and from there it flows through Hardwar and throughout the plains of India, purifying the entire land.

How the Ganges water reaches the various planets from the top of the universe is explained herein.

Celestial airplanes carry the water from the planets of the sages to other planets.

So-called advanced scientists of the modern age are trying to go to the higher planets, but at the same time they are experiencing a power shortage on earth.

If they were actually capable scientists, they could personally go by airplane to other planets, but this they are unable to do.

Having now given up their moon excursions, they are attempting to go to other planets, but without success. (Srimad Bhagavatam 5:17:4 purport).

Situated 8,800,000 miles above Saturn, or 20,800,000 miles above earth, are the seven saintly sages, who are always thinking of the well-being of the inhabitants of the universe.

They circumambulate the supreme abode of Lord Viṣṇu, known as Dhruvaloka, the polestar. (Srimad Bhagavatam 5:22:17 translation).

This chapter describes how all the planetary systems take shelter of the polestar, Dhruvaloka.

It also describes the totality of these planetary systems to be Śiśumāra, another expansion of the external body of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Dhruvaloka, the abode of Lord Viṣṇu within this universe, is situated 1,300,000 yojanas (10,400,000 miles) from the seven stars.

In the planetary system of Dhruvaloka are the planets of the fire-god, Indra, Prajāpati, Kaśyapa and Dharma, all of whom are very respectful to the great devotee Dhruva, who lives on thepolestar.

Like bulls yoked to a central pivot, all the planetary systems revolve around Dhruvaloka, impelled by eternal time.

Those who worship the virāṭ-puruṣa, the universal form of the Lord, conceive of this entire rotating system of planets as an animal known as śiśumāra.

This imaginary śiśumāra is another form of the Lord. The head of the śiśumāra form is downward, and its body appears like that of a coiled snake.

On the end of its tail is Dhruvaloka, on the body of the tail are Prajāpati, Agni, Indra and Dharma, and on the root of the tail are Dhātā and Vidhātā.

On its waist are the seven great sages. The entire body of the śiśumāra faces toward its right and appears like a coil of stars.

On the right side of this coil are the fourteen prominent stars from Abhijit to Punarvasu.

And on the left side are the fourteen prominent stars from Puṣyā to Uttarāṣāḍhā.

The stars known as Punarvasu and Puṣyā are on the right and left hips of the śiśumāra.

And the stars known as Ārdrā and Aśleṣā are on the right and left feet of the śiśumāra.

Other stars are also fixed on different sides of the Śiśumāra planetary system according to the calculations of Vedic astronomers.

To concentrate their minds, yogīs worship the Śiśumāra planetary system, which is technically known as the kuṇḍalini-cakra. (Srimad Bhagavatam 5:23 summary).

Summarizing the entire description of the planetary systems of the universe, Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura says that one who is able to meditate upon this arrangement as the virāṭ-rūpa, or viśva-rūpa, the external body of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and worship Him three times a day by meditation will always be free from all sinful reactions.

Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura estimates that Dhruvaloka, the polestar, is 3,800,000 yojanas above the sun (30,400,000 miles)

Above Dhruvaloka by 10,000,000 yojanas is Maharloka.

Above Maharloka by 20,000,000 yojanas is Janaloka.

Above Janaloka by 80,000,000 yojanas is Tapoloka.

Above Tapoloka by 120,000,000 yojanas is Satyaloka.

Thus the distance from the sun to Satyaloka is 233,800,000 yojanas, or 1,870,400,000 miles.

The Vaikuṇṭha planets begin 26,200,000 yojanas (209,600,000 miles) above Satyaloka.

Thus the Viṣṇu Purāṇa describes that the covering of the universe is 260,000,000 yojanas or 2,080,000,000 miles away from the sun.

The distance from the sun to the earth is 100,000 yojanas (8 hundred thousand miles away).

And below the earth by 70,000 yojanas are the seven lower planetary systems called

Atala,
Vitala,
Sutala,
Talātala,
Mahātala,
Rasātala,
Pātāla.

Below these lower planets by 30,000 yojanas, Śeṣa Nāga is lying on the Garbhodaka Ocean.

That ocean is 249,800,000 yojanas deep.

Thus the total diameter of the universe is approximately 500,000,000 yojanas, or 4,000,000,000 miles (4 billion miles in diameter). (Srimad Bhagavatam 5:23:9 purport).

The seven stars revolving around the polestar at the zenith are called saptarṣi-maṇḍala.

On these seven stars, which form the topmost part of our planetary system, reside seven sages:

Kaśyapa,
Atri,
Vasiṣṭha,
Viśvāmitra,
Gautama,
Jamadagni,
Bharadvāja.

These seven stars are seen every night, and they each make a complete orbit around thepolestar within twenty-four hours. Along with these seven stars, all the others stars also orbit from east to west.

The upper portion of the universe is called the north, and the lower portion is called the south.

Even in our ordinary dealings, while studying a map, we regard the upper portion of the map as north. (Srimad Bhagavatam 9:16:24 purport).

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu comes to just "one" Kali-yuga out of every 1000, which is once in a day/night of Brahma, which is once every 8 billion 640 million human years.

There are 1000 Maha-yugas (cycle of four yugas) in one-half day (day-time only) of Lord Brahma's day (sunrise to sunset) and no Maha-yugas during Brahma's night.

In this present age of Kali-yuga, Harinam Sankirtan (the chanting of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra) is the greatest gift given to this degraded period of earth history.

Harinam Sankirtan is Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s great gift to this particular yuga, His appearance is very, very rare because Lord Caitanya does not come to every Kali-yuga during Brahma's day.

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu only comes to just "one" Kali-yuga out of every 1000, which is once in a day/night of Brahma. or once every 8 billion 640 million human years.

There are 1000 Kali-yuga’s in one-half day (day-time only) of Lord Brahmas time (sunrise to sunset)

It takes 4 billion 320 million human years for 1000 Maha-yugas to occur during Brahma's day from sunrise to sunset.

There are no Maha-yugas (also known as a Divya-yugas) during Brahma's night (sunset to sunrise).

A Maha-yuga or Divya-yuga is a cycle of 4 yugas-

Satya, 1,728,000 human years

Treta, 1296,000 human years 

Dvāpara, 864,000 human years 

Kali-yuga’s, 432,000 human years.

Making the length of each Maha-yuga 4 million 320 thousand years.

1000 Maha-yugas are in a day of Brahma (during Brahma's day-time hours), and no Maha-yugas exist during Brahma's night.

In other words, all Maha-yugas happened during Lord Brahma’s day-time period, taking 4 billion 320 million human years to occur.

Then, add the same duration of time (4 billion 320 million human years) for Brahma’s night (sunset to sunrise) to make a full day of 8 billion 640 million human years.

So we understand that Lord Caitanya's appearance in just one Kali-yuga, (the same Kali-yuga we are in now), is very, very rare as comes "once" to this earth every 8 billion 640 million human years.

This means Lord Caitanya does not appear in the other 999 Kali-yugas during Brahma’s day (sunrise to sunset)

During Brahma's night, while he sleeps (sunset to sunrise), the material universe experiences a partial annihilation. This happens over a period of 4 billion 320 million human years (Brahma's night)

So one "day-night 24-hour period" of Brahma equals 8 billion 640 million human years as already explained above. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu comes “once” in that 24-hour day of Lord Brahma at the beginning of a Kali-yuga.

Krsna, as His original Form in Vrindavana, also comes to this earth planet once every 8 billion 640 million human years, at the end of Dvāpara-yuga (coming to just one Dvāpara-yuga out of every thousand)

So both Krsna and Caitanya appear only "once" in a day of Brahma (every 8 billion 640 million human years)

Krsna, in His original Vrindavana  Form, also comes "once" in a 24-hour day of Brahma at the end of a Dvāpara-yuga.***.

Nothing is forever or permanent in the material creation, all karma, good and bad is temporary.

Nothing is forever in the material creation.

There is no such thing like the nonsense Christian concept called "eternal damnation" in the material world because karma is temporary.

If the the Christian God eternally condemns the sinful to an eternal hell, then that God is a cruel nasty evil unloving God that must be rejected and their religion condemned!

The superior more advanced Vedic texts tell us all sinful reactions are temporary and the soul is "eternally" given chances to be Gods eternal servant.

”Jivas are NOT generated from a clear sheet of consciousness”

The jiva did NOT generate from a clear sheet of consciousness that is expanding and growing with new souls.

This nonsense idea is impersonal because what condition was the individual soul (jivatma) in before it was generated, appeared or created?

Actually, there is NO creation of the living entity because the soul is beginningless!!

When the word ”impersonal origin” is used it means the non existent or inactive state of the jiva as an individual and then from where the soul is generated which really means where the soul originates from.

Some say, ”they generate from a ”clear sheet of consciousness that is growing and producing new souls” however it is this ”impersonal” concept  that Prabhupada rejects –

Srila Prabhupada - "There is no “ NEW” souls. “New'’ and “old'’ are due to this material body, the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970.

Jivas are NOT generated from a clear sheet of consciousness and there are NO new souls, all souls have always been and NEVER created nor can they be annihilated”

Srila Prabhupada rejects the concept that ”souls are generated from a clear sheet of consciousness”

Also Prabhupada explains their is no origin to the jiva tattva and they fall from Vaikuntha to Maha Vishnu and the He plants them in the material creation, also no jiva tattva ”actually” originates from Balarama or Maha Vishnu rather they go through them.

After some jivas choose to leave Vaikuntha they enter the Body of Maha Vishnu and rests there, it only appears Maha Vishnu created the jivas but actually they only go through Him after leaving Vaikuntha He never creates or generates any jivas.

The jivas were never created or generated by Balarama or Krishna because they have ”always been”, they have always existed only the material world is created.

Sastra says Bhagavad Gita 2.20 – ‘’For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval’’. the word ”unborn” is very clear meaning the jiva was never born.

Also BG 2.12: Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.

The jivas were never created

Krishna is the maintainer of all existence in Goloka and Vaikuntha and His material ”creation”.

Both Krishna and the jivas are eternal and always exist together like the sun and the sunrays, one cannot exist without the other.

The jivas are nothing without Krishna and Krishna has no meaning without the jivas as Srila Prabhupada explains in ”Nectar of Devotion”

Both are equally eternal only in the sense of there is no beginning but Krishna is always the Supreme Lord and maintainer of everything

Krishna has 100% of His own qualities, Vishnu has 93% of Krishna’s qualities, Shiva has 84% of Krishna’s qualities and the jivas like you and me have 78% of Krishna’s qualities.

Both Krishna and the jivas are eternal and always exist together like the sun and the sunrays, they are NOT created by Krishna because they were never ”born” they were never ”created” like Krishna the jivas are unborn as sastra tells us.

Like Krishna the jivas have ALWAYS existed just like the sunrays exist with the sun, this is how the jivas also eternally exist.

Krishna NEVER created the jivas, Why? But He is the Supreme Lord, yes true but the individual jivas were never created because they are eternally part of Him like the sunrays are part of the sun, they exist together and are inseparable.

To say we, the marginal living entities, came from an impersonal origin, is not the teachings of Srila Prabhupada.

Letter to: Revatinandana — Los Angeles 13 June, 1970

Srila Prabhupada – ‘The next question, about the living entities falling down in this material world are not from the impersonal brahman. Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness.

Those who are in the brahman effulgence they are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition.

The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness. So long one can maintain pure Krsna consciousness he is not fallen down. As soon as he becomes out of Krsna consciousness immediately he is fallen down.

It does not matter where a living entity stays. In the material world also there are different stages of living conditions, and to remain in the brahman effulgence is also another phase of that fallen condition.

Just like in the Bhagavad-gita it is stated that conditioned souls by their pious activities are elevated to the higher planetary system, but as soon as the stock of pious activities is finished he again comes down on the earthly planet.

Similarly those who are elevated beyond the planetary system to the brahman effulgence, they are also prone to fall down as much as a living entity from the higher planetary system.

As such those who are thinking that they are liberated by being situated in brahman effulgence are described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam as impurely intelligent.

In other words, they are actually not liberated, and because they are not actually liberated they again come down to the material world as much as a living entity elevated to the higher planetary system comes down to this earthly planet.

So we do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated.”