Sunday, October 8, 2023

Even the leaves CAN fall down from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Syamasundara Das - "Can we predict returning back home back to Godhead will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison, however some do come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time otherwise there is no meaning to free will."

Syamasundara Das - "And some come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."

Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "He has got independence, therefore there is always the possibility he can misuse his independence, he CAN fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is NOT to come back, but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again." (Talk with Syamasundara on Henri Bergson philosophy)

Even though Krsna has promised there is no return to the material creation once returning to the spiritual worlds, the fact is there IS return if the jiva-souls want to return as Prabhupada explains here-

Acyutananda – "In Bhagavad Gita Krsna says, once coming to the spiritual world, the jiva-soul never returns to the material world, so He can return?"

Srila Prabhupada – "If he likes he can return."

Guru-kripa – "How is it that one can become envious of Krsna?"

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence, you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God. God has got full independence, but you have got independence too, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, so if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown." (Mayapur Feb 19, 1976)

Paramahamsa - "But ultimately if we come to Krsna, there’s no return?"

Srila Prabhupada - "There IS return, that is voluntary. Return there is."

Paramahamsa - "If we want."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Paramahamsa - "So we can come to the spiritual world and return?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Paramahamsa - "Fall down?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, as soon as we try, “Oh, this material world is very nice,” “Yes,” Krsna says, “yes, you go and enjoy the material world, otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Krsna is so kind, He gives him opportunity, all right, you enjoy like this, just like some of our students sometimes go away, again come back. It is free will. Just like one goes to the prisonhouse, not that government welcomes, "Come on. We have got prisonhouse. Come here, come here." He goes out of his free will; again comes out, again goes. Like that."

Paramahamsa - "So our desire to enjoy, we achieve these material bodies; and our desire to achieve Krsna brings us to our natural position."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes." (Cheviot Hills, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Devotee - "Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Krsnaloka, there’s no possibility of falling back."

Srila Prabhupada - "No! There is possibility, but he does not come IF he is intelligent. Just like after putting your hand in the fire, you never put it in again. So those who are going back to Godhead, they MUST become intelligent. Why going back to Godhead?" (Talk with Syamasundara Dasa)

Srila Prabhupada - "As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice," "Yes," Kṛṣṇa says, "yes, you can go." Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Sadly, there are some jiva-souls who do make the wrong choice in the spiritual world Prabhupada has explained, and enter the temporary material creation. 

Srila Prabhupada explains that figure is less than 10%. This fall down into the material world also has nothing to do with Maya or the material energy because Maya does NOT exist there however, free will does exist eternally in the spiritual world.

Most jiva-souls do not fall down, over 90% choose to NEVER rebel or leave the spiritual world.

Although, less than 10% do become rebellious and choose to enter the temporary decaying material creation, where the jiva-souls are forced to accept the cycle of repeated birth and death. 

The jiva-souls are Krsna's marginal energy which means they can sometimes be in the spiritual world or sometimes in the material world.

By nature, the jiva-souls are spiritual living entities therefore their real infinite position and home is the spiritual worlds of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Dr. John Mize – "Does Krsna know ahead of time that a soul is going to be foolish and fall down to the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna? Yes, Krsna may know because He is omniscient."

Dr. John Mize – "Are more souls falling all the time?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Not all the time. But there is the tendency of fall down, not for all, but because there is independence… Everyone is not liking to misuse the independence. The same example: 

Just like a government constructing a city and constructs also prison house because the government knows that somebody will be criminal. So their shelter must be also constructed. It is very easy to understand. Not that cent percent population will be criminal, but government knows that some of them will be. Otherwise why they construct prison house also? One may say, “Where is the criminal? You are constructing…” Government knows, there will be criminal. So if the ordinary government can know, why God cannot know? Because there is tendency."

Dr. John Mize – "The origin of that tendency (to fall from Goloka) is…?"

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes."

Dr. John Mize – "From where does that tendency come?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Tendency means the independence. So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force. Therefore Krsna says,yathecchasi tathä kuru. “Now you do whatever you like." (BG, As It Is. lecture, Mayapur, June 20, 1973)**













Sunday, October 1, 2023

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes and expands as innumerable categories of different living entities known as Visnu-tattva, sakti-tattva, Siva-tattva and jiva-tattva.

Krsna is likened to the original candle who lights all other candles (Visnu-tattva full expansions) of the same luminosity. 

Furthermore, Krsna as His original Vrindavana Form has 64 qualities of which 4 of those are unique to only Kṛṣṇa all the time, and He never leaves Vṛndāvana.

Krsna’s first Visnu-tattva expansion is Balarama and from Him, all other Visnu-tattva expansions manifest and represents Kṛṣṇa outside Vrindavana in the Vaikuntha planets, and material world.

No Visnu-tattva expansion has those 4 extra qualities always like Kṛṣṇa does, they only can always manifest 60 of Krsna's 64 qualities all the time which is having 93.75% of Krsna's attributes.

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes and expands as innumerable categories of different living entities known as Visnu-tattva, sakti-tattva, Siva-tattva and jiva-tattva. 

Krsna’s first expansion is Balarama and from Him all other Visnu-tattva expansions manifest. Those living entities who are almost equal to Krsna are called "Visnu-tattva."

Others living entities like the individual jiva-jiva-souls (marginal living entities) have an independent personality separate from Krsna's Personality. 

The individual jiva-souls have their own unique identity, personality, character, likes, dislikes separate from Krsna's Character and Personality. 

Another living entity known as Siva-tattva (Lord Siva), is neither Visnu-tattva or jiva-tattva (jiva-soul), he is in a league of his own. 

All the variety of living entities are Krsna's expansions, each having a portion of Krsna's 64 qualities however, only Kṛṣṇa has all 64 qualities in full.

Visnu-tattva expansions have 60 of Krsna's 64 qualities, which is 93.75% of Krsna's 100% attributes. 

Siva-tattva expansion have 55 of Krsna's 64 qualities, which is 85.938% of Krsna's 100% attributes.

Jiva-tattva (jiva-soul) expansion (separated) have 50 of Krsna's 64 qualities, which is 78.125% of Krsna's 100% attributes.

Being all-powerful, Krsna can expand Himself into unlimited forms with the same power and characteristics He possesses, without diminishing Himself in anyway.

Although Krsna in His original Form has 64 qualities, 4 of those are unique to only Him because no other Visnu-tattva expansion has those 4 extra qualities all the time.

Krsna expands Himself to enjoy in a variety of ways through relationships with His innumerable devotees.

Krsna's Visnu-tattva expansions also manage the decaying impermanent material creation known as Maha-Visnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu, and  Paramatma (Supersoul). 

All Visnu/Narayana Forms have unlimited different names who are all the Supreme Personality of Godhead also.

They live on the eternal blissful Vaikuntha planets in different roles, and also come to the material creation too under unlimited different names like Narsingadeva, Ramachandra, Varaha etc. 

The individual jiva-souls can choose to remain in the "anti-material" Spiritual Sky (Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana) or enter the temporary "material creation" because they have "free will" as part of their "eternal" constitutional make-up.

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) were never created, they are eternal without beginning or end like Krsna.

Just like the "sun-rays" exist simultaneously with the "Sun-disc," Similarly, the jiva-souls have always existed for infinity like Krsna has. Just like Krsna, the jiva-souls are beginningless and endless meaning they were NEVER created.

The jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the jiva-souls are indestructible.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the material body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament."  (BG, Ch 2 text 27, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30, 1983 edition)

Because all jīva-souls are ETERNAL then there are no new jiva-souls because they have ALWAYS existed.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)

As said above, Visnu-tattva expansions on the Vaikuntha planets are known as Lord Visnu, and Lord Narayana and trillions of other names that describes their particular pastimes.

On the Vaikuntha planets the jiva-souls have an all-in-reverence relationship with Lord Visnu, those who voluntarily choose to go there see Lord Visnu as the all powerful God and controller of everything.

Each Lord Viṣṇu on their Vaikuntha planet, has a different name based on the pastimes going on in there. On the Vaikuntha planets, there is complete reverence and deep respect and humility with an overwhelming mood of awe and dedicated in their love for Lord Visnu (God)

Unlike the jiva-souls in Goloka-Vrindavana who never see Krsna as God or even care, the jiva-souls on the Vaikuntha planets always see Visnu/Narayana as the all worshipable Supreme Personality Lord or God.

However, Krsna in His original form remains aloof from the affairs of not only the material temporary decaying creation but also the perpetual Vaikuntha planets in the spiritual world that surround His personal abode of Goloka-Vrindavan.

This is because He is for ever enjoying loving pastimes with His friends, family, uncles, aunties, boy friends, girl friends and all other associates in Goloka-Vrindavana who Krsna sees all equal to Him. 

The jiva-souls in Goloka-Vrindavana see Krsna as the most amazing, caring, selfless "Person" they know, and love Him dearly, but have no idea He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, nor do they care. 

Amazingly, no one in Goloka-Vrindavana sees Krsna as God the Supreme controller of all things, He is just their best wonderful friend, parent, lover etc they feel safe to be with and always remember.

Krsna’s first expansion is Balarama, His elder brother in Goloka-Vrindavan. From Balarama comes all other Visnu-tattva expansions.

Srila Prabhupada - "Balarāma executes the orders of Lord Kṛṣṇa in the work of creation, and in the form of Lord Śeṣa He serves Kṛṣṇa in various ways. According to expert opinion, Balarāma, as the chief of the original quadruple forms, is also the original Saṅkarṣaṇa. Krsna's first expansion Balarāma expands Himself in five forms-

(1) Mahā-saṅkarṣaṇa, 

(2) Kāraṇodakaśāyī, 

(3) Garbhodakaśāyī, 

(4) Kṣīrodakaśāyī, 

(5) Śeṣa. 

These five plenary portions are responsible for both the spiritual and material cosmic manifestations. In these five forms Lord Balarāma assists Lord Kṛṣṇa in His activities. 

The first four of these forms are responsible for the cosmic manifestations, whereas Śeṣa is responsible for personal service to the Lord. 

Śeṣa is called Ananta, or unlimited, because He assists the Personality of Godhead in His unlimited expansions by performing an unlimited variety of services. Śrī Balarāma is the servitor Godhead who serves Lord Kṛṣṇa in all affairs of existence and knowledge. 

Lord Nityānanda Prabhu, who is the same servitor Godhead, Balarāma, performs the same service to Lord Gaurāṅga by constant association." (CC Adi 5.10, Translation and Purport)

Srila Prabhupāda - "Lord Nityānanda is Balarāma, who is the origin of Mahā-Viṣṇu. Kṛṣṇa’s first expansion is Balarāma, a portion of whom is manifested as Saṅkarṣaṇa, who then expands as Pradyumna. In this way so many expansions take place." (CC Introduction)

Although Krsna expands into many forms identical to Himself, He remains the one individual original independent entity who is simultaneously one and different with His spiritual worlds and material creation, meaning  all-pervasive and similtaneously a PERSON in Bodily Form.

Krsna eventually expands as Maha-Visnu (Karanodakshayi Visnu) and creates the material worlds which are actually the dreams of His expansion Maha-Visnu.

The material bodily vessels the jiva-souls possess when they choose to enter the temporary material creation, are chosen from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

The material creation takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky, everything going on within the unlimited Brahmanda universes existing there, are the dreams of Maha-Visnu according to Srimad Bhagavatam.

Every bodily material vessel in the material creation must be first "hired" from Maha-Visnu.

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding, one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966 NY City USA)

Srila Prabhupada - "The "immediate" expansions of the Lord are called svāṁśa or "personal direct" expansions (Visnu-tattva). The "separated" expansions of the Lord are called vibhinnāṁśa - jiva-tattva or independent jiva-souls like us." (BG 10.37, Purport)

Each individual jiva-soul in the spiritual world can "choose" to "voluntarily" serve Krsna in an unlimited variety of ways as an unlimited varieties of bodily forms, or even reject Krsna if they choose to do so, and enter or return to the impermanent material world. 

Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes-

"This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83)

This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream, actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu.

Srila Prabhupada – "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)

Srila Prabhupada – "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972, SB Canto 2 Ch 9 text 1)

Srila Prabhupada – "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)

Maha-Visnu is laying down sleeping and in that sleep He dreams the material creation. Everything past, present and future is eternally their in His dreams, and jiva-souls who choose to enter His material creation, live there in a material bodily vessel that comes from Maha-Visnu's dreams that are simultaneously the jiva-soul's desires (dreams) too.

Everything conceivable and inconceivable are in the dreams of Maha-Visnu that forfill all the desires the individual jiva-souls have, everything there is comes from Maha-Visnu's dreams.

When Maha-Visnu dreams, He creates the material universe known as the Maha-tattva which takes up 25% of the spiritual sky or brahmajyoti.

Within that material 25% of the spiritual sky, we find billions of individual independent massive single universes called "Brahmandas." 

Deep inside each Brahmanda universe, Maha-Visnu expands into a "secondary universe" as Garbhodakashayi Visnu. And from Garbhodakashayi Visnu, a Lord Brahma appears and builds the many planetary systems.

This means there are unlimited Garbhodakashayi Visnus and unlimited Lord Brahmas but only one Maha-Visnu.

The size of each planetary system within each material universe inside their Brahmanda, vary in size, some larger, some smaller than others. In our material universe deep inside our Brahmanda, we have 14 planetary systems and is considered a small universe.

Other universes inside their Brahmanda, have many more planetary systems.

The size of each Brahmanda and their inner universe inside it, depends on the how many heads their Lord Brahma has.

Some Lord Brahmas, like ours, has only 4 heads, while other Brahma's within their material universe may have 10, 20, 50, 500, 1000, 100,000 or even a million or more heads.

All inconceivable to the mundane mind.

All the billions of Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of the sleeping Maha-Visnu as seen in painting below, have a secondary inner universe deep inside them with their own Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Lord Brahma.

Srimati Radharani and Krsna are eternally in their abode known as Goloka Vrindavana.

When Krsna wants to enjoy and experience loving exchanges with a women, He expands His potency or energy from within Himself that gives Him enjoyment. This potency He expands as is a PERSON in the form of a woman and Her name is Srimati Radharani.

Radharani is not a different person from Krsna, or, rather, she is both one with and different from Him. How could two people be one person or one person be two?

A simple example will illustrate how this is so. The sun cannot exist without the sunshine, nor the sunshine without the sun. We say, "the sun is in my room"—even though the sun itself is ninety-three million miles away—because the sun appears in the form of its energy. Therefore the energy (the sunshine) and the energetic (the sun) are simultaneously one and different. 

Similarly, Radha and Krsna are simultaneously one and different. Krsna, the self-effulgent Lord, is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and Srimati Radharani is His supreme pleasure energy. Together They constitute the complete Absolute Truth.

Who is qualified to understand all discussed here?

One cannot understand anything about Radha and Krsna through mental speculation. Krsna and His potencies are achintya, inconceivable, and ananta, unlimited. He is the very source of the mind itself, and therefore He is beyond the mind.

The limited mind cannot understand the unlimited Personality of Godhead. The Vedic literature explains this very logically- 

"That which is transcendental to material nature is inconceivable, whereas speculative arguments are all mundane. Since mundane arguments cannot touch transcendental subject matters, one should not try to understand transcendental subjects through mundane arguments."

When ordinary mundane intellectuals try to explain or interpret the identity or pastimes of Radha and Krsna, Krsna's unlimited nature bewilders them, and therefore they misconstrue everything.

Thus they sometimes consider Radha and Krsna to be like an ordinary boy and girl of the material world. But although they often pose as scholars, they do not know what they are talking about.

One should therefore strictly avoid the confused mundane ideas of such blundering intellectuals. If one wishes to understand Radha and Krsna, one must understand Them by hearing submissively from a bona fide authority, a genuine spiritual master. 

The original authority on Krsna is Krsna Himself. Everyone is first an authority regarding his own self, and this is also true regarding Krsna.

Moreover, since Krsna is unlimited, no one else can understand Him fully. Krsna's disciple Arjuna confirms this as follows in Bhagavad Gita As It Is-

svayam evatmanatmanam

vettha tvam purusottama

bhuta-bhavana bhutesa

deva-deva jagat pate

"Indeed, You alone know Yourself by Your own potencies, O origin of all, Lord of all beings, God of gods, O Supreme Person, Lord of the universe!" (BG, Ch 10.15)

Although Krsna is inconceivable to mental speculation, those to whom He reveals Himself can understand Him. Krsna first gave such transcendental knowledge to Brahma, the first created living being.

Brahma later transmitted this knowledge to his son Narada, who transmitted it to Vyasa, the author of Bhagavad Gita As It Is. In this way, the knowledge has descended from master to disciple, through a chain of the Bhakti tradition, down to the present day.

A spiritual master in this disciplic line is a bona fide authority regarding Krsna. He is the proper person from whom to receive transcendental knowledge.

What pleases Krsna?

According to Srila Prabhupada, Krsna is the reservoir of all pleasure, and therefore He is all-attractive. Yet Krsna Himself derives pleasure from the service rendered by His devotees. Such devotional service attracts even Him. Krsna Himself, while speaking to a friend, confirms this as follows in Srimad Bhagavatam-

Lord Krsna - "My dear Uddhava, you may know from Me that the attraction I feel for devotional service rendered by My devotees is not to be equaled even if one performs mystic yoga, philosophical speculation or ritualistic sacrifices, studies Vedanta, practices severe austerities or gives up everything in charity. These are, of course, very nice activities, but they are not as attractive to Me as the transcendental loving service rendered by My devotees." (SB Canto 11, Ch 12 Text 1)

Krsna is full in six opulence's- 

beauty, 

wealth, 

fame, 

strength, 

knowledge,  

renunciation. 

No amount of material opulence, therefore, can attract Him. Just as one could not attract a millionaire by offering him a few dollars, one cannot attract Krsna merely by one's limited material opulence. 

Nevertheless, pure devotional service attracts even Krsna. This is the unique transcendental excellence of devotional service.

Srimati Radharani is the embodiment of pure devotional service. No one can be a greater devotee than She. The very name Radharani comes from the Sanskrit word aradhana, which means worship. Her name is Radharani because She excels all in worshiping Krsna. Although Krsna is so beautiful that He can attract millions of Cupids and is therefore called Madana-mohana, "the attractor of Cupid," Radharani can attract even Krsna! She is therefore called Madana mohana mohini "the attractor of the attractor of Cupid." 

One time Krsna, to play a joke on the gopis or cowherd girls of Vrndavana, was hiding beneath a bush, but finally they spotted Him from a distance. 

Krsna then changed Himself into His four-armed form of Narayana. When the gopis approached and found Narayana instead of Kṛṣṇa, they were not very interested in Him; only Krsna's original two-armed form attracted them.

They therefore offered their respectful obeisance's unto Lord Narayana and prayed that He would bestow upon them the benediction of Krsna's eternal association. Then they went on searching for Krsna.

When Srimati Radharani passed by, however, Krsna tried to maintain His disguise as Narayana but was unable to do so; he kept slipping back into His original two-armed form. This illustrates the great influence of Srimati Radharani's pure transcendental love.

Krsna says in Bhagavad Gita As It Is that as one surrenders unto Him, He reciprocates accordingly. 

Therefore the more Radharani tries to please Krsna, the more He desires to please Her, thus in turn increasing Her enthusiasm to increase His pleasure.

Therefore although the Lord is unlimited, both He Himself and His pleasure potency are always increasing. 

The all-blissful reciprocation between the Lord and His pleasure potency is expressed in the transcendental pastimes of Radha and Krsna, which are described in detail in "KRSNA BOOK, the Supreme Personality of Godhead." by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

The reciprocation of loving exchanges between Radha and Krsna and all marginal living entities is the essence of spiritual love.

In the spiritual world, love between Krsna, and among all His pure devotees is based on selfless loving reciprocal exchanges of service, voluntary personal offerings to Krsna that are unique to each individual devotee.

Such loving co-operation and selfless devotion among devotees, brings out the very best and full potential of each devotee's spiritual personality and unique character.

In this way, the pure devotees are always trying to please beautiful Krsna in so many ways in service and in playful sport in the mood of Krsna Consciousness.

And Krsna is so kind He always reciprocates in so many amazing ways more than one can ever realize.

All the devotees serve Krsna selflessly and unconditionally in their own unique way in the mood of loving co-operation without any desire for personal gain.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force! Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Because you are Son of God you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist to go off and enjoy independently then God says, "All right, you can go." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)..^.^..
















Sunday, September 24, 2023

How does reincarnation really work? It is not necessarily instantaneous because "ACTIVE" life is extremely very rare in the material universe.

Reincarnation or the transmigration of the jiva-soul, is not necessarily instantaneous. 

Reincarnation (the transmigration of the jiva-soul) depends on the availability of the next suitable deserved material bodily vessel being found, that could take millions of humans years to find because "life" in the material creation is extremely rare.

The fact is, "ACTIVE" life in a material bodily vessel in the material world, is extremely rare to achieve.

This means at the time of the death of the present material bodily vessel, the jiva-soul within that material body, may have to wait dormant until an appropriate material bodily vessel is found to enter.

Of course, the jiva-soul enters another material bodily vessel when its present one wears (dies) however, that could take millions of human years of waiting for an appropriate material bodily vessel for one to successfully transmigrate too.

Actually, life in the material creation is extremely rare, even today in nearly 2024, modern science have NOT found life outside planet Earth.

All this is due to the "active" life force or individual jiva-soul being able to enter life's 8 million 400 thousand species of bodily vessels that are extremely very rare throughout the material universes.

"Sarva-gatah" means life in the material universe is everywhere however, 99% of that life (jiva-souls) are "inactive" (dormant) within both the  impersonal brahmajyoti and the material atom- 

Tamala Krsna - "But within each atom the living entity (jiva-soul) is present?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, God is present; therefore jiva-soul is present." 

Rupanuga - "So Paramatma (Visnu) and jiva-soul are ALWAYS together."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes." (Morning Walk, April 4, 1975, Mayapur)

Or the jiva-souls are dormant (inert) in impersonal brahmajyoti.

The fact is, "less than 1%" of jiva-souls are "active" within a material bodily vessel within the 8 million 400 thousand species of life living "actively" on planetary systems existing inside the unlimited Brahmanda universes.

Just on our earth planet, there are only 8 billion human beings where as there are approximately 450 billion birds and 20 quadrillian (a billion, billion) animals on this earth planet. And numbers greatly expand in the lower species of like (insect, aquatic, plant, bacterial) 

So clearly, having the human form of life is very, very, very rare.

The fact is, by far, the majority of jiva-souls are hovering dormantly (inactively) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, or are inert (almost dead) within EVERY material atom.

Therefore, Krsna's expansion Visnu (Paramatma or Supersoul) is in the atom, meaning the jiva-soul is also there in a "dormant" inert condition.

Ksirodakasayi Visnu (Paramatma or Supersoul) and the individual jiva-soul is within every atom, so there are individual jiva-souls EVERYWHERE in the material world. 

The Sanskrit for that is "sarva-gatah" which means life is EVERYWHERE but most are inactive or dormant within the brahmajyoti and material atom as explained above.

Tamala Krsna - "Srila Prabhupada, someone asked a question the other day about the atom which I couldn't give the answer to. His question is that if we say that within the atom the living entity, the jiva, is present, and life symptoms means six symptoms of birth, growth..."

Srila Prabhupada - "That's all right. Their life symptoms has not yet come. But there is."

Jayadvaita - "Potential."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Tamala Krsna - "His question was... It was sort of a dual question. At what time, or what...? Just like at the time of disintegration of this body, the living entity leaves this body and the body disintegrates, so does the atomic body also disintegrate when the living entity leaves it and moves to a higher body?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Atomic body? Atomic body means material body. Unless you are free from this material body, the atomic body will go on with you. That means unless you are mukta, the atomic body will go on. Mind, intelligence, ego — they are also atomic, finer atomic body."

Tamala Krsna - "But within each atom the living entity (jiva-soul) is present?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, God is present; therefore jiva-soul is present."

Tamala Krsna - "So the living entity is present within the atom just as I am present within this body. When I leave this body, my body breaks apart."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, you leave this body, enter another body."

Tamala Krsna - "Right."

Srila Prabhupada - "By nature's law."

Tamala Krsna - "And when I leave this body, the body breaks apart."

Srila Prabhupada - "Eh?"

Tamala Krsna - "When I leave this body, the body dis... "

Srila Prabhupada - "The body is already atomic combination."

Tamala Krsna - "Yes."

Srila Prabhupada - "So it remains atomic combination. You leave the body."

Tamala Krsna - "Yes, it remains..."

Srila Prabhupada - "You leave the house. That does not mean the house is finished."

Tamala Krsna - "Right, I can understand that."

Hamsaduta - "He's asking that if the jiva-soul leaves the atomic particle, then does the particle break apart, isn't it?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no. You have not left atomic particle."

Tamala Krsna - "No, but you, you're... I think you were saying that within the atom there's also a living entity. So when that living entity leaves the atomic particle does the particle break apart? Or doesn't it? I mean what...?

Srila Prabhupada - "Just try to understand, from the sastra, you understand that andantara-stham: "God lives within the atom."

Tamala Krsna - "Yes."

Srila Prabhupada - "And when the God is there, living entity's also there. This... This much you try to understand. Because God and living entity, they remain together, as two friends. God is trying to save this fallen friend. That is the information from Upanisad. So when God is there, the living entity is also there."

Rupanuga - "So Paramatma (Visnu) and jiva-soul are always together."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Tamala Krsna - "Can we say that the living entity (jiva-soul) is present within the atom by consciousness?

Srila Prabhupada - "Hm? No, consciousness will gradually develop according to the bodily situation."

Pancadravida - "How does the jiva-soul get out of the atom and take a gross body?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Hmm?"

Pancadravida - "How will that jiva-soul..."

Srila Prabhupada - "(laughing) Body is combination of atoms. How he gets out of the atom. Body is nothing but combination of many atoms. Everything material is combination of many atoms. That's all."

Pancadravida - "The jiva-souls inside the atom, are they like impersonalists who are in the Brahman?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That you consider. He has not developed his consciousness. Practically, it is like dead." (Morning Walk, April 4, 1975, Mayapur).×^×.



Friday, September 15, 2023

Nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) and nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) explained.

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence; that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Some wrongly claim there are "two types of jiva-souls" - eternally conditioned (nitya-baddha) and eternally liberated (nitya-siddha)

No, there is only one, but the jiva-souls have "two-sides" to their personality and character.

The word "eternal" ONLY refers to the "position" and NOT the individual jiva-souls in that position, who can be both, eternally liberated or eternally conditioned, based on their circumstances.

The "position" is eternal, but not necessarily the the jiva-souls in that position of nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) and nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned)

The jiva-soul's infinite position is Nitya-siddha (eternally liberated), this means the jiva-soul's original perpetual home is the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

The actual constitutional position of EVERY marginal living entity (jiva-soul) is Nitya-Siddha.

Srila Prabhupada - "There are two kinds of marginal living entities: nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. The actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity is nitya-siddha. By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can become again nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha, to bring them to their original position. It is a difficult task." (London lecture on BG 13-14, July 14, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Your next question, "Is a pure devotee "eternally liberated" and if so is he at any time a conditioned soul? We are "eternally conditioned," but as soon as we surrender to Krsna do we then become "eternally liberated? 

You are NOT eternally conditioned, you are eternally liberated but since we have become conditioned on account of our desire to enjoy materialistic way of life, from time immemorial, therefore it "appears" that we are eternally conditioned. 

Because we cannot trace out the history or the date when we became conditioned, therefore it is technically called eternally conditioned. Otherwise the living entity is not actually conditioned. 

A living entity is always pure. But he is prone to be attracted by material enjoyment and as soon as he agrees to place himself in material enjoyment, he becomes conditioned, but that is not permanent. Therefore, a living entity is called on the marginal state, sometimes this side, sometimes that side. 

These are very intelligent questions. And I am very glad that you are putting such intelligent questions and trying to understand it. It is very good." (Letter to Aniruddha dasa, Los Angeles 14 Nov 1968)

Srila Prabhupāda - "There are two kinds of living entities: nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. Nitya-siddha means they never fall a victim of māyā. That is nitya-siddha. Even though they are within this material world, they are never victimized. That is called nitya-siddha. And one who is victimized, he is called nitya-baddha. 

But the actual constitutional position of EVERY living entity is nitya-siddha, because God is eternal and His part and parcels, the living entities, they are also eternal. So that is nitya-siddha. 

Nitya-siddha, sādhana-siddha, kṛpā-siddha—there are different grades. They are all described in the Nectar of Devotion. 

So one can become sādhana-siddha. By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can also become siddha. He can become AGAIN nitya-siddha.

So the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha, to bring them. It is a difficult task." (Lecture, New York City, July 13 1976)×












Saturday, September 9, 2023

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, is the founder Acarya of the International Society for Krsna Consciousness (ISKCON).

Srila Prabhupāda first arrived in America from India on the ship Jaladuta in the Boston harbour Massachusetts USA on Friday September 17, 1965 and first registered ISKCON on July 13th 1966 in New York City, USA.

Srila Prabhupada came to the United States carrying within his heart the orders of his spiritual master to spread the teachings of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu beyond the borders of India throughout the entire world.

As he looked across Boston’s bleak polluted skyline, he could understand the difficulty of this mission and felt great compassion for those godless people, thus, with perfect humility, he composed this historic prayer in Bengali (translated to English), praying for the deliverance of the fallen souls.

1:  My dear Lord Krsna, You are so kind upon this useless soul, but I do not know why You have brought me here. Now You can do whatever You like with me.

2:  But I guess You have some business here. Otherwise, why would You bring me to such a terrible place?

3:  Most of the population here is covered by the material modes of ignorance and passion. Absorbed in material life, they think themselves very happy and satisfied, and therefore they have no taste for the transcendental message of Vasudeva. I do not know how they will be able to understand it.

4:  But I know Your causeless mercy can make everything possible, because You are the most expert mystic.

5:  How will they understand the mellows of devotional service? O Lord, I am simply praying for Your mercy so that I will be able to convince them about Your message.

6:  All living entities have come under the control of the illusory energy by Your will, and therefore, if You like, by Your will they can also be released from the clutches of illusion. I wish that You may deliver them.

7:  I wish that You may deliver them. Therefore, if You so desire their deliverance, then only will they be able to understand Your message.

8:  The words of Srimad-Bhagavatam are Your incarnation, and if a sober person repeatedly receives them with submissive aural reception, then he will be able to understand Your message.

9:  It is said in Srimad-Bhagavatam (Canto 1 Ch 2 Text 17-21): ‘Sri Krsna, the Personality of Godhead, who is the Paramatma [Supersoul] in everyone’s heart and the benefactor of the truthful devotee, cleanses the desire for material enjoyment from the heart of the devotee who relishes His messages, which are in themselves virtuous when properly heard and chanted. 

By regularly hearing the Bhagavatam and rendering service unto the pure devotee, all that is troublesome to the heart is practically destroyed, and loving service unto the glorious Lord, who is praised with transcendental songs, is established as an irrevocable fact. 

At the time loving service is established in the heart, the modes of passion [rajas] and ignorance [tamas], and lust and desire [kama] disappear from the heart. Then the devotee is established in goodness and he becomes happy. 

Thus established in the mode of goodness, the man rejuvenated by loving service to the Lord gains liberation from material association [mukti] and comes to know scientifically of the Personality of Godhead. 

Thus the knot in the heart and all misgivings are cut to pieces. The chain of fruitive actions [karma] is terminated when one sees the self as master.”

10:  He will become liberated from the influence of the modes of ignorance and passion and thus all inauspicious things accumulated in the core of the heart will disappear.

11:  How will I make them understand the message of Krsna consciousness? I am very unfortunate, unqualified, and the most fallen. Therefore I am seeking Your benediction so that I can convince them, for I am powerless to do so on my own.

12:  Somehow or other, O Lord, You have brought me here to speak about You. Now, my Lord, it is up to You to make me a success or failure as You like.

13:  O spiritual master of all the worlds! I can simply repeat Your message, so if You like You can make my power of speaking suitable for their understanding.

14:  Only by Your causeless mercy will my words become pure. I am sure that when this transcendental message penetrates their hearts they will certainly feel gladdened and thus become liberated from all unhappy conditions of life.

15:  O Lord, I am just like a puppet in Your hands. So if You have brought me here to dance, then make me dance, make me dance. O Lord, make me dance as You like.

16:  I have no devotion, nor do I have any knowledge, but I have strong faith in the holy name of Krsna. I have been designated as Bhaktivedanta, and now if You like You can fulfill the real purport of Bhaktivedanta.

Signed, the most unfortunate, insignificant beggar,

A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami.

On board the ship Jaladuta, Commonwealth Pier, Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A. dated Saturday 18th of September, 1965

Born-

Abhay Charan De

1 September 1896

Calcutta, Bengal Presidency, British India.

Left this world-

14 November 1977 (aged 81) Vrindavan, Uttar Pradesh, India

Resting place-

Bhaktivedānta Swami's Samadhi, Krsna Balarama Mandir Vrindavan

Religion-

Sanātan Dharma,

Vaishnavism,

Street Sankirtan - the chanting of Hare Krsna all over the World - The Yuga Dharma for this degraded Kali-yuga.

Lineage-

Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya.

Sect-

Gaudiya Vaishnavism

Notable work-

Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, Śrīmad Bhāgavatam, Caitanya Caritāmṛta, Nectar of Devotion.

School-

Scottish Church College, University of Calcutta (B.A.)

Monastic name-

Abhaya Caraṇāravinda Bhakti-vedānta Svāmī

Temple-

Gaudiya Math, ISKCON

Philosophy-

Achintya Bheda Abheda (Simultaneously one and different philosophy of Lord Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu)

Teacher (Spiritual Master or Guru)-

Srila Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Thakur

Predecessor-

Srila Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Thakur

Initiation-

Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava Diksa

1933 by Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Thakur.

Ordination  (Sannyas initiation)-

Taking Gaudiya Sannyas in 1959 from Bhaktiprajnāna Keśava Gosvāmī.

Srila Prabhupada's basic enlighting teachings are as following-

Devotee - "It is said in the Bhagavad-gita that if one thinks of Krsna at the time of death, he (she) goes to Krsna. What if one thinks of his spiritual master?" 

Srila Prabhupāda - "He (she) will go to Krsna because spiritual master is also going to Krsna." (BG, Class Ch 7 Text 2, Oct 28, 1975 Nairobi)

The word "reciprocation" only has meaning when there are TWO involved, not one Prabhupada has told us. The individual jiva-souĺs have THEIR choices too, EVEN if that choice means rejecting Krsna! Free will only has meaning when the jiva-souls can express themselves in a "two-sided" affair.

In other words, loving reciprocation is ONLY possible on a "two-way" street between two, with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.

This also means the individual jiva-souls CAN reject Krsna if they choose, which in a sense proves that "free will" DOES truly exist.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will." (Philosophy Discussions on Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence, that is force.” (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Having "free will" is the eternal constitutional make up of EVERY "marginal living entity," and is the foundation for ALL jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna.

The jiva-souls on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavan ALWAYS have their independent "free will" that is part and parcel of their unique individuality included in their marginal identity (As jiva-soul)

This "freedom" of having individual  self expression," allows the jiva-souls to each make their own unique personal offerings and voluntary contributions to Visnu or Krsna, where each jiva-soul can offer or serve Krsna in their own unique personal way.

This is REAL freedom.

In this way each individual jiva-soul has their own special unique (personal) association and relationship with Krsna that no other jiva-soul has like theirs.

These loving exchanges are based on a "two-way" relationship between Krsna and the jiva-souls.

However, in the temporary material creation, it is different because those who have entered the material creation have previously chosen to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan by rejecting Visnu in Vaikuntha or Krsna in Goloka Vrindavana.

So why then does Krsna allow the jiva-souls to have their independent freedom to even leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan if they choose?

Devotee – "In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence, that is force. In Bengali it is said, ‘if you catch one girl or boy and demand, ‘you love me, you love me, you love me,’ is that love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

First of all we read from above by Prabhupada, Krsna gives the jiva-souls "free will" in the spiritual world that allows them to make their own choices there.

Having free will also makes the jiva-souls fully responsible for all their choices and actions.

Rejecting Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan and therefore having to enter the material creation, (but only less than 10% make such a choice) was a mistake by those jiva-souls because the material creation is NOT the real home of the individual jiva-souls.

It is unnatural for the individual jiva-souls to be covered by a temporary material bodily vessel or container that they are given when they enter the material creation.

It must be clearly understood for love to truly exist, each jiva-soul MUST have their "free will" to make their own choices, even if it means leaving Krsna if they choose, otherwise there can be no question of genuine love or service.

This quality or attribute of free will is part of the jiva-soul's marginal constitutional nature, as an independent free thinking part and parcels expansion of the Krsna.

Krsna allows this freedom that all jiva-souls have because without free will loving exchanges and reciprocation can NEVER exist.

Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We CAN misuse that." (Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)

Having "free will" is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) that is ALWAYS part and parcel of their eternal character and personality in the spiritual world.

This means the jiva-souls can even choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they choose to do so, otherwise free will has no meaning. 

In other words, free will clearly means the jiva-souls can choose to even reject Krsna's promise that they they will never fall down again into the material world.

Many big, big Gurus and Swamis have misunderstood the full implications of 'free will" and have not properly understood it.

Free will always allows this and if it didn't then there is no question of loving exchanges.

This is why it is foolish that big, big sannyasis and gurus in some other sangas (religious cults) claim once entering the spiritual world, the jiva-souls can never leave or down again.

No, they CAN fall down again and again if they choose to do so!

And as said above, such choices or fall downs have nothing to do with Maya (material energy) because Maya does not exist in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana. It is simply the misuse of free will that is the cause of fall down.

The choice to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows a "two-way" relationship, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose to do so.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will, he misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Talk on philosophy of Rene Descartes)

Syamasundara - "But can we predict returning back home back to Godhead will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison, however some do come back?''

Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time."

Syamasundara - "And some come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."

Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "He has got independence, therefore there is always the possibility he can misuse his independence, he CAN fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is NOT to come back, but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again." (Talk on the philosophy of Henri Bergson)

Srila Prabhupāda – ''Love means a relationship between "two persons", then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

The Sun-disc and the sun-rays CANNOT exist separately from each other, similarly Krsna cannot exist separately from His living entities (parts and parcels) and the living entities CANNOT exist without Krsna.

Each "jiva-soul" (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind independent individual with their own unique personality and character different from other personalities including Kṛṣṇas.

No two individual jiva-souls are the same, and no jiva-souls can EVER become God (Krsna), or Visnu (also a direct expansion of Krsna who has 93.75% of Krsna's qualities, which is possessing 60 of Krsna's 64 qualities).

Nor can the jiva-souls become the mysterious Lord Siva (possessing 85.938% of Krsna's qualities, which is 55 of Krsna's 64 attributes) Lord Siva is in a league of his own being neither Visnu-tattva or jiva-tattva (jiva-soul)

However, the jiva-souls CAN become a Brahma if they are qualified because he is also a jiva-soul who has 78.125% of Krsna's quantities, which is having 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

Loving devotional service to Krsna is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" voluntary exchange of personal feelings manifesting as loving acts of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions (offerings) of devotional service to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will that does not deny the "free will" of each jiva-soul.

On the other hand, actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering forceful mood from a "so called God" in His Kingdom that does not allow personal voluntary contributions from the individual jiva-souls in a "two-way" exchange of feelings, is dangerous impersonalism.

Personalism means a "two-way" relationship that includes voluntary loving exchange of feelings that expands, enriches and multiplies loving affection, sentiment and exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed by only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - ''The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Devotee – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri dasa – “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”

Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri dasa - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”

Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he ñcan change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)..^*^..