Krsna via His first expansion Balarama, further expands from His Visnu form to His Maha-Visnu (Karanodakshayi Visnu) form who creates all the material worlds of unlimited individual universes called "Brahmandas."
Karanodakshayi Visnu (Maha Visnu) who creates the material creation (1/4 of the Spiritual Sky) is seen sleeping in painting below.
While He is sleeping, He is always dreaming and those dreams Maha-Visnu has, are all the activities happening within each Brahmanda universes within this temporary material creation.
Everything conceivable that happens in the temporary material creation are found in the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
This is because everything the visiting jiva-souls desires, is covered within the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
No jiva-soul originates from Maha-Visnu or the impersonal Brahmajyoti as the less intelligent foolishly believe.
Srila Prabhupada has told us that entering both the impersonal Brahmajyoti and the dreams of Maha-Visnu in His material creation, are both fallen conditions.
The jiva (tattva) soul's or marginal living entities are situated in Vaikuntha serving Visnu but are originally from Krsna's pastimes in Goloka-Vrindavan.
It is due mostly because of free will, the jiva-souls choose to enter the temporary material creation.
And from there after suffering millions of births and deaths due to be covered by a temporary material bodily vessel, can they enter the impersonal (dormant or inactive) Brahmajyoti or Brahman.
When Maha-Visnu dreams He creates all the individual material universe (Brahmandas) known as the Maha-tattva which takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti as explained above.
The other 75% of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti is the ever fresh, always youthful and perpetually never in a state of decline or decay.
And from there after suffering millions of births and deaths due to be covered by a temporary material bodily vessel, can they enter the impersonal (dormant or inactive) Brahmajyoti or Brahman.
When Maha-Visnu dreams He creates all the individual material universe (Brahmandas) known as the Maha-tattva which takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti as explained above.
The other 75% of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti is the ever fresh, always youthful and perpetually never in a state of decline or decay.
The Spiritual worlds are known as the Vaikuntha planets of Lord Visnu and the central Goloka-Vrindavana planet of Krsna who is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.
However, within Maha-Visnu's 25% of the Spiritual Sky, called the temporary material creation, we find is always in a state of decay, decline, impermanence and forced repeated birth and death for all those jiva-souls who choose to enter the mundane material creation and possess (enter material bodily vessels)
The jiva-souls who has chosen to enter the material creation, are continuously forced to take rebirth again and again in different material bodily vessels because what ever material bodies they get, will eventually wear out, get old, decay, break down and eventually cease to operate.
However, within Maha-Visnu's 25% of the Spiritual Sky, called the temporary material creation, we find is always in a state of decay, decline, impermanence and forced repeated birth and death for all those jiva-souls who choose to enter the mundane material creation and possess (enter material bodily vessels)
The jiva-souls who has chosen to enter the material creation, are continuously forced to take rebirth again and again in different material bodily vessels because what ever material bodies they get, will eventually wear out, get old, decay, break down and eventually cease to operate.
This continuous decay is the nature of the material worlds.
All jiva-souls who choose to enter the material creation are contained in these impermanent material bodily vessels provided by the dreaming Maha-Visnu.
All jiva-souls who choose to enter the material creation are contained in these impermanent material bodily vessels provided by the dreaming Maha-Visnu.
By entering these bodily vessels, the jiva-soul's journey within the material dreams of Maha-Visnu begins.
In the material creation, Maha Visnu is the composer, creator and director of all material pastimes, material bodily vessels and ALL their facilities.
All that exists in the material creation, manifests through Maha Visnu's dreaming.
Therefore, all jiva-souls who choose to enter the dreamland of material creation, are provided with the provisions by the dreaming Maha-Visnu that simultaneously match the individual desires of each visiting jiva-soul who choose to enter Maha-Visnu's material creation.
Maha-Visnu is the creator of the unlimited massive material worlds known as Brahmanda universes.
Within each Brahmanda universe a smaller secondary material universe exists created by Maha-Visnu's expansion Garbhodakashayi Visnu, and managed by Lord Brahma.
Maha-Visnu's dreams also include all the material bodily vessels taken by each jiva-soul who enters those material worlds.
Clearly means no jiva-souls originate from Maha-Visnu, they instead enter His dream creation from the Spiritual realm outside of the material creation.
Clearly means no jiva-souls originate from Maha-Visnu, they instead enter His dream creation from the Spiritual realm outside of the material creation.
There are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus and Lord Brahmas, but only one Maha-Visnu.
Within the billions of Brahmanda individual material universes in Maha-Visnu's material creation, all combinations of every material bodily feature, pathway and out come past, present and future, all exist, are all possible.
This means ever possible scenario of material combination and bodily out comes already exists within the dreams of Maha Visnu, just so all jiva-souls who enter the material creation, can experience "their" journey, no matter how strange or bizarre their self centered desires are.
What ever desires they may have, every facility imaginable exists within Maha-Visnu's dreams. He forfills all the desires of all jiva-souls.
In this way, the jiva-souls who are now separated from Krsna's eternal Spiritual abodes, can experience "anything" THEY desire from Maha-Visnu's material creation.
As said above, this attempt to enjoy separate from Kṛṣṇa places the rebellious jiva-soul outside of the Spiritual realm and within Maha-Visnu's material dreams.
It is there a suitable material bodily vessel is provided by Maha Visnu to the jiva-soul so they can experience their individual desires without Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes –
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur - "This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83)
Srila Prabhupada - "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Srila Prabhupada - "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972: SB Canto 2 Ch 9 text 1)
Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Srila Prabhupada explains here why some jiva-souls CAN fall down from Vaikuntha if they choose to do so.
The following Conversation took place in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples.
Devotee – "When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krsna, we have a perfect relationship with Krsna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already serving Krsna?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Because you desire to fall down. Here it is explained that "Don’t fall down."
Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving…"
Srila Prabhupada – "Because you have got little freedom. It is his desire."
Devotee – "In the Srimad-Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come here, why are we here?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, you forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, "My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there." But he insists, "Oh, I must go. I must go." "All right, you go at your risk. That’s all. And you suffer. What can be done?" Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, free will, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got "little independence." So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist that “I must go and enjoy independently," so God says, "All right, you can go." This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)
Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Within the billions of Brahmanda individual material universes in Maha-Visnu's material creation, all combinations of every material bodily feature, pathway and out come past, present and future, all exist, are all possible.
This means ever possible scenario of material combination and bodily out comes already exists within the dreams of Maha Visnu, just so all jiva-souls who enter the material creation, can experience "their" journey, no matter how strange or bizarre their self centered desires are.
What ever desires they may have, every facility imaginable exists within Maha-Visnu's dreams. He forfills all the desires of all jiva-souls.
In this way, the jiva-souls who are now separated from Krsna's eternal Spiritual abodes, can experience "anything" THEY desire from Maha-Visnu's material creation.
As said above, this attempt to enjoy separate from Kṛṣṇa places the rebellious jiva-soul outside of the Spiritual realm and within Maha-Visnu's material dreams.
It is there a suitable material bodily vessel is provided by Maha Visnu to the jiva-soul so they can experience their individual desires without Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes –
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur - "This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83)
Srila Prabhupada - "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Srila Prabhupada - "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972: SB Canto 2 Ch 9 text 1)
Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Srila Prabhupada explains here why some jiva-souls CAN fall down from Vaikuntha if they choose to do so.
The following Conversation took place in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples.
Devotee – "When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krsna, we have a perfect relationship with Krsna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already serving Krsna?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Because you desire to fall down. Here it is explained that "Don’t fall down."
Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving…"
Srila Prabhupada – "Because you have got little freedom. It is his desire."
Devotee – "In the Srimad-Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come here, why are we here?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, you forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, "My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there." But he insists, "Oh, I must go. I must go." "All right, you go at your risk. That’s all. And you suffer. What can be done?" Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, free will, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got "little independence." So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist that “I must go and enjoy independently," so God says, "All right, you can go." This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)
Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "We do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated." (Letter to Revatinandana Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "The jivas were previously active ''before'' entering the "inactive" or "dormant" Brahman effulgence." (Letter to Revatinandana Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupada – "Regarding your several questions: Where are the spirit souls coming from? These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 7/9/1970)
Srila Prabhupada - “We have also come down from Vaikuntha some millions and millions of years ago." (Lecture on BG, Aug 6, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "As living spiritual souls we are all originally Krsna conscious entities, but due to our association with matter from time immemorial, our consciousness has now become polluted by the material atmosphere."
(Happening record album NY City December 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "So, even in the Vaikuntha, if I desire that ‘Why shall I serve Krsna? Why not become Krsna?’ I immediately fall down." (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)
Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka. When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned, when one remembers Krsna he is liberated". (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
So within this temporary material creation we find billions of individual single Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu.
Furthermore, as explained above, deep inside each massive Brahmanda universe, there is a secondary smaller universe where Maha-Visnu expands Himself as Garbhodakashayi Visnu.
Srila Prabhupada - "So, even in the Vaikuntha, if I desire that ‘Why shall I serve Krsna? Why not become Krsna?’ I immediately fall down." (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)
Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka. When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned, when one remembers Krsna he is liberated". (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
So within this temporary material creation we find billions of individual single Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of Maha-Visnu.
Furthermore, as explained above, deep inside each massive Brahmanda universe, there is a secondary smaller universe where Maha-Visnu expands Himself as Garbhodakashayi Visnu.
And from Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Lord Brahma appears and is born from His naval at the top of a lotus flower.
Lord Brahma then builds the many planetary systems within the inner secondary universes he is in.
As said above, there is only one Maha-Visnu but there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus and Lord Brahmas.
The size of each planetary system deep inside each Brahmanda vary in size, some larger and some smaller than others.
In our universe deep within our Brahmanda, we have 14 planetary systems and is considered a small universe.
Other universes inside their Brahmanda, have many more planetary systems.
The size of each Brahmanda and their inner universe depends on the how many heads their Lord Brahma has.
Some Lord Brahmas, like ours, has only 4 heads, while other Brahma's within their universe inside their Brahmanda, may have 10, 20, 50, 500, 1000, 100,000 or even a million or more heads.
In this way, all the billions of Brahmanda universes coming from the Body of the sleeping Maha-Visnu (as seen in painting below), ALL have a secondary inner universe deep inside of them.
As already explained, each of the billions of Brahmandas has their own Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Lord Brahma at the center of each Brahmanda.
Each Brahmanda therefore has 7 material coverings that surround and encase each inner universe.
Our small inner material universe within our Brahmanda, according to Srimad Bhagavatam, is only 4 billion miles in diameter.
While the massive Brahmanda universe we are deep within, is 44 quadrillion 444 trillion 444 billion miles in diameter.
This explanation maybe the full size of the Brahmanda or could be just from the outer edge of our inner universe (often called Bhu-Mandala because it is described as almost 4 billion miles in diameter)
The full size of our Brahmanda maybe double the figure mentioned above.
ISKCON is attempting to revive the age old Vedic Sanatan Dharma system all over the world.
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When Prabhupada went back to India in 1970 with his "dancing white elephants" (American and European devotees) was the beginning of a Vedic REVIVAL and the seeds were sown for a future Golden Age of Spirituality in this degraded age of Kali-yuga.
This is important to understand, their are big changes coming to this terrible Kali-yuga that will transform it for a short time (10,000 years) into a Golden Age of Sankirtan (congregational chanting of Hare Krsna) for many.
However, today ISKCON is just only 50 years into this revival and spiritual rejuvenation and therefore there is still much to learn from Vedic teachings and learn how to practice them with potency.
Slowly ISKCON IS developing farms, setting up Sankirtan parties in every Town and Village etc all over the world.
58 years (1965 to 2023) is not a long time, it took 400 years for the Catholic Church to become established.
In 1972 Prabhupada spoke in his room explaining that Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Movement will eventually bring in a new Golden Age of Spirituality.
He even said devotees in a few generations, devotees will become very powerful Brahmins, some even with mystical powers like Brahmins in Dvarapa-yuga, meaning that their chanting mantras and fire yujnas will have great powerful potency again.
He explained that even the demigods are lined up to take birth on this planet in Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's great Sankirtan Movement.
Of course devotees do not and will not seek these mystical powers, but it will happen as a bye product of tapping into higher realms of conscious awareness caused by performing massive Sankirtan under the guidance and instructions of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, that will also lead to a Golden Age in this Kali-yuga.
What has begun is the REVIVAL of the Vedic Culture known as Sanatan Dharma.
Srila Prabhupada has told us that this coming Gold Age will REVIVE the Vedic standards that existed in Dvarpara yuga and even Satya yuga!
This WILL happen with Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's powerful Sankirtan movement!
If this Kali-yuga mundane world studies Srila Prabhupada's Books and chants Hare Krsna very seriously, then this Golden Age will become a reality.
So why did God give us free will?
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada, why did God give us free will if He knew we would fall down in the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will. But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada explains to us there is always a chance of misusing one's free will and falling down to the material world however, most souls do NOT misuse their freedom and fall down.
Prabhupada explained this to Shyamasundara prabhu when he said to Prabhupada-
Shyamasundara dasa - "So returning back to Godhead is permanent?"
Srila Prabhupada - "No, nothing is permanent because you have your independence, if you want, you can again go to the material world."
But then Prabhupada adds - "But most (90%) are good, they "choose" to never fall down."
The important point here is there is always free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan that allows reciprocation and voluntary loving exchanges with Krsna.
This means, it is the jivas who also decide how to conduct themselves in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, and Krishna does NOT force His will on all jiva-souls, forcing then to do what He only wants.
No, the Spiritual world is not mindless like that where the jiva tattva surrenders their free will! Such bogus "surrender" is mayavadi teachings.
Impersonal, (which also means having no sense of one's individual independent unique self as a contributing person) mindless surrender is the fake meaning of surrender that sadly many foolish devotees today believe is the meaning of surrender!
They foolishly believe you must surrender your free will to enter Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan.
If Krsna forced this nonsense meaning of surrender, then it would be impossible for REAL love to exist.
This is because Krsna would be over riding the marginal living entities free will and their individual unique abilities and sense of self that allows them to strive for loving exchanges of reciprocation and personal offerings, that are the eternal qualities and constitution of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls).
Srila Prabhupada even gives the figures of how many marginal living entities (jiva-souls) choose to leave Goloka-Vrindavan and Vaikuntha, explaining it is less than 10% that leave but most, over 90%, NEVER leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana.*
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