The marginal energy of the Lord are the individual living entities or jiva souls (jiva tattva) like you and me.
Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva soul is always called marginal energy whether he is in the spiritual world or in the material world’. - (Letter to Rayarama, December 2, 1968)
There are three energies of Lord Krishna.
1 - Spiritual internal potency of Krishna are His direct energies known as Vishnu-sakti-tattvas (Radharani and various gopis) and Vishnu-tattva (Balarama etc 93% of Krishna's qualities) who are direct expansions of Krishna.
2 - The "marginal energy" or the living entities are known as jiva tattva that have 78% of the Lords qualities.
The jiva tattva are NOT "full" expansions of Krishna meaning they are NOT Krishna's direct expansions like the Vishnu-tattvas.
This is because the jiva tattva (marginal living entities) have their own independence and individual sense of self, personality and free will that can choose to be with Krishna or reject Him if they desire.
Without the marginal living entities (jiva-tattvas) having free will with their own sense of self and responsibility, then their CANNOT be any question of experiencing loving exchanges, reciprocation, emotions and cooperation in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan the Kingdom of God.
3 - The external energy of the Lord, the dead material energy managed by Maha Vishnu and takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti.
When the marginal living entities (jiva-tattvas) enter the material creation, they are covered by two material bodily vessels, (one gross matter and the other subtle matter)
From the day the soul or jiva-tattva is in a gross body, they experience its immediate decay and temporary nature that leads to the cycle of repeated birth and death in the material creation within 8 million 400 thousand species of material bodies.
Conclusion.
Krishna is like the SUN and the marginal living entities are like the SUNRAYS, both exist eternally without any beginning!!
Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan perpetually exist in the "eternal presence"
And yes, this means Krishna never technically created the Spiritual Worlds or the marginal living entities (jiva tattvas).
This is because they have ALWAYS been and have eternally existed without beginning or end.
However, Krishna is still, and will always be the maintainer of all there is as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Only the material worlds are created and eventually destroyed.
The marginal living entity (jiva tattva) always have their free will, independence and an individual sense of self as Prabhupada explains -
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we could fall down in the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will. But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
There is no beginning point or end point of all things in the Spiritual Worlds.
However, Krishna is ALWAYS the "maintainer" of all that is and the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
And yes, there was no point in space-time where Krishna gave the marginal living entities (jiva tattva) free will! This is because we have ALWAYS had free will and the ability to make our own choices of how to serve in the Spiritual realms of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan .
The fact is, there was no point in eternal time when free will was given to the jiva tattva souls because they have ALWAYS had free will that is part and parcel of the marginal living entities eternal constitution.
Direct expansions of Krishna are called Vishnu-tattva or Vishnu-shakti-tattvas and ARE acually Krishna Himself playing another part in His eternal pastimes.
And yes on this level, Krishna is technically one with Balarama and Radharani but express Himself in the mood of Balarama or the mood of Radharani.
And no Krishna, Balarama and Radharani are NOT separate individuals souls.
They are simultaneously all the ONE person but also different according to pastimes.
Krishna wanted to know how Radha expressed her love for Him and Radha want to know how Krishna expressed His love for her.
Krishna therefore became ONE with Radha and that one body is Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
The jiva tattva souls or marginal living entities are different, they can NEVER become one with Krishna (God), they can never go past their 78% qualities of Krishna.
All Vishnu-tattva and Vishnu-shakti-tattvas have 93% of Krishna's qualities and are all Krishna Himself playing a different role in His pastimes.
Lord Shiva is in a league of his own, he has 84% of Krishna's qualities.
And then us, the jiva tattvas or marginal living entities with 78% of Krishna's qualities
And yes, even great devotees find this very hard to understand.
Read these books and learn this Knowledge, this is all in Prabhupada's Books....
There is no beginning point or end point of all things in the Spiritual Worlds.
ReplyDeleteHowever, Krishna is ALWAYS the "maintainer" of all that is and the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
And yes, there was no point in space-time where Krishna gave the marginal living entities (jiva tattva) free will!!
This is because we have ALWAYS had free will and the ability to make our own choices in the Spiritual realm.
This is because free will is part and parcel of our eternal constitution.
Direct expansions of Krishna are generally called Vishnu-tattva or Vishnu-shakti-tattvas and ARE acually Krishna Himself playing another part in His eternal pastimes.
And yes on this level, Krishna is technically one with Balarama and Radharani but express Himself in the mood of Balarama or the mood of Radharani.
And no Krishna, Balarama and Radharani are NOT separate individuals souls, they are simultaneously all the ONE person but also simultaneously different according to pastimes.
Krishna wanted to know how Radha expressed her love for Him and Radha want to know how Krishna expressed His love for her.
Krishna therefore became ONE with Radha and that one body is Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
The jiva souls or marginal living entities are different, they can NEVER become one with Krishna (God), they can never go past their 78% qualities of Krishna.
All Vishnu-tattva and Vishnu-shakti-tattvas have 93% of Krishna's qualities and are all Krishna Himself playing a different role in His pastimes.
Lord Shiva is in a league of his own, he has 84% of Krishna's qualities.
And then us, the jivav tattvas or marginal living entities with 78% of Krishna's qualities
And yes, even great devotees find this very hard to understand.
Srila Prabhupada - ”Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love?” (Teheran, Iran, August 9th, 1976)
ReplyDeleteReal love is a two way street, in Goloka Vrindavana there MUST be always reciprocation and loving exchanges where the jiva tattva naturally expresses their own unique personality and individuality while serving Krishna.
Such free will is the basic make up of every marginal living entity's unique independent character.
Otherwise without free will, one is simple a pawn, android or slave who is always told how to think and what to do without any thoughtful contribution.
Who would want to live in a crazy mindless cult like that where the "Supreme leader" does all the thinking for them?
I reject such bogus mindless impersonal surrender!!