Understanding this is also the standard in Spiritual life or Krishna Consciousness when properly understood.
On the spiritual level of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, the individual jiva-souls never deny independent nature, or attempt to extinguish their individual identity, free will and unique personality (an independent sense of self), foolishly thinking by giving up your free will and independent identity, is the real meaning of surrendering to Krsna. No, actually this nonsense idea of surrender is impersonalism and spiritual suicide.
Being the unique individual PERSON the jiva-souls eternally are, perpetually always have their free will in the spiritual world that allows them to choose to remain with Krsna, or leave His assocition if the choose.
If the rebellious jiva-souls want, they can stay in the temporary material world for an almost eternity, they CAN stay in the temporary decaying material universe's cycles of birth and death and cycles of annihilation and creations for an "almost" infinity! Or within the "inactive" formless impersonal brahman (brahmajyoti).
However, both the material world and impersonal brahmajyoti are also temporary places for the jiva-souls, even though they can stay there for many, many creations of Maha-Visnu ( His breathing in and out).
Both being in the material world, and being merged in the impersonal brahmajyoti, are also temporary meaning at any time, if the fallen jiva-souls choose, they can return back home back to Godhead.
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Having free will enables the jiva-souls to give the very best of their character in the service of the Lord and is what selflessness and surrender really means.
Having individual freedom (free will) is basis of who the jiva-souls are as an independent PERSON. This is the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (jiva-soul).
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
The jiva-souls in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana if they choose, are forever expanding their sense of individuality with personal offerings based on selfless loving reciprocation and exchanges with Krsna, it is NEVER a one-sided or one-way relationship with the Lord, it takes two for loving exchanges to exist.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)
Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a one-way dictatorial street where surrender to Krsna takes away the jiva-soul's sense of self, individuality and personal unique contributions on their relationship with Krsna.
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it and enter the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, sense of self and unique characteristics separate from Krsna and Visnu that THEY only individually have.
Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)
Devotee – "But In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save us from thinking separately from Him?"
Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
The jiva-souls in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana if they choose, are forever expanding their sense of individuality with personal offerings based on selfless loving reciprocation and exchanges with Krsna, it is NEVER a one-sided or one-way relationship with the Lord, it takes two for loving exchanges to exist.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)
Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a one-way dictatorial street where surrender to Krsna takes away the jiva-soul's sense of self, individuality and personal unique contributions on their relationship with Krsna.
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it and enter the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, sense of self and unique characteristics separate from Krsna and Visnu that THEY only individually have.
These qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities make up as the independent eternal "PERSON" they are for infinity.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)
Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)
Devotee – "But In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save us from thinking separately from Him?"
Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).
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