Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.
EVEN our "free will" Krsna allows for the purpose of having voluntary individual meaningful relationships of self expression, based on loving individual exchanges, personal constructive contributions that enhance the reciprocation between two.
Real love or service can NEVER exist in a one-way or one-sided relationship, there must be two if one wants to experience reciprocation.
Without "free will" in a "two-way" exchange, we are no better than dead stone Prabhupada has said.*
There is so much more going on in Krishna's Abode with the jiva souls than just their free will.
ReplyDeleteUltimately Krishna arranges EVERYTHING way beyond the concept of free will and what our little independence can ever understand.
Krishna’s plan for all things and living entities is inconceivable.
Actually in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan Krishna will NEVER let anthing hurt the jiva soul.
So now I understand why many great devotees say once one has entered Goloka Vrindavan or Vaikuntha, they never fall down.
This is because Krishna will not allow anyone or anything, including our free will, to hurt us it seems but maybe not all the time.
For example, if a jiva soul persists in demanding to be allowed to leave the spiritual world, then Krishna will not interfere
At least this is the case it seems for over 90% of the inhabitants of Goloka Vrindavan and Vaikuntha, who NEVER fall down.
But frankly I only know what Prabhupada has told us.
Does Krishna fully protect the jiva soul from even choosing to fall down and leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavan?
Wouldn't that be forcing the jiva souls to stay by not giving them a choice to make their own decision?
So no Krishna maybe in rare cases interferes with His pure devotees free will.
So my question is, if nothing can ever hurt the jiva souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, including one's free will, then how do the jiva souls ever fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan?
It seems they cannot ever fall down from there to many devotee scholars because Krishna is fully in control there even of their free will.
So does that mean they lose their freedom by entering the Spiritual Worlds?
Obviously these scholars, and even some great devotee's opinion on this subject do NOT seem right with their claim that those jiva souls in the Spiritual Planets can never fall down.
Srila Prabhupada tells us Krishna NEVER in a forceful way makes the jiva souls stay in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana, but rather encourages us in a loving nurturing protective way, to CHOOSE to stay, but CAN go also if we want.
This is according to Prabhupada's comments in Vaniquotes, less than 10% of jiva souls in the Spiritual Planets DO use their free will and and choose to leave either Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana and enter the material creation.