Sunday, June 20, 2021

The Sanskrit word "Tattva" is used to denote certain categories of Krishna's energies explained here, "sakti-tattva" is also explained here.

Vaishnavism.

Within Puranic literatures and Vaiśhnava philosophy, tattva is used to denote certain categories of Krishna's energies such as-

There are many tattvas coming from Krishna the Supreme personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

Viśhnu-tattva

Any incarnation or expansion of Śrī Kṛṣṇa like all Vishnu/Narayana forms, Lord Ramachandra, Narsinga deva etc who have 93.75% of Krishna’s 100% qualities which is 60 of Krishna's 64 attributes.

Śakti-Tattva

The multifarious energies of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Sakti tattva is Krishna's internal energy or potency that IS Srimati Radharani. 

There is also other sakti-tattvas Yoga Maya and the material prakṛti.

Jiva-tattva 

Jiva-tattva, the individual souls that have 78.125% of Krishna's 100% qualities which are 50 of Krishna's 64 attributes.

Śiva-tattva

Śrī Śiva is not jiva-tattva or Vishnu-tattva, he is in the middle with 84.375% of Krishna’s 100% qualities which are 55 of Krishna's 64 attributes.

Mahat-tattva

The total material energy (prakṛti).

In Gaudiya Vaishnavism there is also the Pancha Tattva

These five Tattvas begin with 

1 - Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu who is the combination of Srimati Radharani and Krsna.

2 - Lord Nityananda who is Balarama, Krsna's older brother.

3 - Sri Advaita is the combined "potency of Maha Vishnu and Lord Shiva.

4 - Gadadhara is Radharani and the internal potency.

5 - Srivas who is Narada Muni a jiva-tattva soul (not Vishnu-tattva) and great devotee of Krsna.

The Pancha-tattva souls are made up of Krishna's direct Vishnu-tattva and Vishnu-sakti-tattva expansions except for Srivas who is jiva tattva.

The following is taṭastha-sakti is correctly understood.

Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha). That is called spiritual elevation". (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 — New York, December 28, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called taṭastha-śakti. Just like in the seaside the shore, the beach, sometimes you see it is covered by water and sometimes it is land; similarly, when we are covered by māyā, that is our jīva-bhūta stage, and when there is no more covering, that is brahma-bhūta stage. When we are Kṛṣṇa conscious, then we are brahma-bhūta (SB 4.30.20), and when we are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, we are materially conscious, that is māyā". (Lecture on BG 7.4-5 -- Bombay, March 30, 1971)

It is said by some Sangas (religious groups) that the jiva souls are generated from tatastha-sakti, but they should explain that this terminology simple means they are in the category known as Krishna's "marginal potency or energy" who ARE individual jiva souls part and parcel of a universal collective or category of living entities that have 78.125% of Krishna's 100% qualities.

This means each individual jiva soul in that category of the marginal potency or living entities can possess 50 of Krishna's 64 attributes.   

Srila Prabhupada - "The spiritual world is expansion of Kṛṣṇa's internal energy, and this material world is Kṛṣṇa's expansion of external energy, and we living entities, we are expansion of marginal energy.

So three energies. Krishna has got multi-energies. All the multi-energies grouped in three headings: 

1 - antaraṅga-śakti,    

2 - bahiraṅga-śakti,  

3 - taṭastha-śakti.

1 - Antaraṅga-śakti means internal energy, 

2 - bahiraṅga śakti means external energy, 

3 - taṭastha-śakti means these marginal living entities (jiva souls). 

We are śakti too; we are energy (jiva-tattva) We are not the energetic (Vishnu-tattva)

The Māyāvādī philosopher says that because the energies are not outside Brahman, therefore they're all the same. This is monism. 

Our Vaiṣṇava philosophy is that energy (is) simultaneously one and different. 

When you perceive heat, we understand, "Oh, there is fire." But that does not mean that because I am getting some heat, I am on the fire. 

Try to understand this philosophy. 

Therefore here it is said vijānataḥ - "one who knows."

So their ekatvam, Māyāvāda philosophy's ekatvam, oneness, and our ekatvam of oneness—a little different. 

They say that the energy's false; the Brahman is real. Brahmā satyaṁ jagan mithyā. 

We say that because Brahman is truth, therefore His energy's also truth. That is the difference between Vaiṣṇava philosophy and Māyāvāda philosophy. 

We cannot say that energy is false. Energy is temporary; this external energy is temporary, not false. 

Although... Suppose we have got some trouble. There are so many kinds of troubles pertaining to the body, mind, external affairs. But that trouble comes and goes. But when the trouble is there, it is true. We feel the consequence. We cannot say it is false. 

The Māyāvādī philosophers say that it is false. But when he's troubled, why he's so much disturbed? So that is not false. 

Therefore this very word is used: vijānataḥ, "one who knows." 

Perfect knowledge must be there, vijānataḥ. When one is actual knower of the things, tatra ko mohaḥ, then there is no illusion. 

Illusion is for him who does not know things. But one who knows, there is no illusion. 

Tatra ko mohaḥ kaḥ śoka. No lamentation. When you are perfectly in conviction that there is nothing except Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa's energy, the same, then there is no moha—moha means illusion—and śoka (Lecture on Sri Isopanishad Los Angeles, May 10, 1970)

The marginal living entities, marginal potency or jiva souls are therefore ALWAYS found throughout the entire Spiritual Sky in four different realms

1 - From associating with Krishna in Goloka-Vrindavana as a friend and four other different ways.

2 - Serving Vishnu as the Supreme God in Vaikuntha.

3 - Being embodied (covered) in a temporary material bodily vessel in the material creation.

4 - And attempting to cease one's existence in the dormant inactive impersonal Brahmajyoti.

Entering the Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman to Vaiṣṇavas is considered Spiritual suicide.

However, such merging is also only temporary even though the jiva soul can stay there for a very very long time.

They eventually full out of the impersonal Brahmajyoti because the nature of the jiva soul is to be active and have a life.

In fact, the jiva soul can stay there for so long that when they again awaken from their impersonal inactive slumber, they wrongly believe the impersonal Brahmajyoti is their origin. 

They forget they fell to that dormant condition in the first place a long, long, long time ago that can equal quadrillions of life times of Lord Brahma who lives for 311 trillion 40 billion human years 

The jiva souls are NOT generated from some imaginary place or plane in outer space. 

The marginal plane (also called tatastha-sakti) is NOT a place in the Cosmos, it is another name for the jiva souls.

The idea that the jiva souls originate from some place called the marginal plane or tatastha-sakti is nonsense because the marginal living entities are everywhere and have no point of origin as some sangas wrongly preach.

The jiva souls were NOT generated (created) from a "clear sheet of consciousness" either because they have ALWAYS existed everywhere (sarva-gatah). 

The jiva souls may fall to an "inactive" or dormant state in the impersonal Brahmajyoti but they certainly did not originate from there.

Even entering the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman is also only temporary relief for the jiva souls who entered there to escape the suffering and pain of being embodied in the material world. 

However, they can stay in the impersonal Brahmajyoti for a very, very long time, so long a time that some foolishly believe it is where they originated from after emerging from there.

It should be made clear the dormant inactive aspect of the  Brahmajyoti is NOT the origin of the jiva-soul.

The fact is, as emphasised, the individual jiva souls are NOT "literally generated from or originate" from anywhere including the Brahmajyoti.

This is because they have ALWAYS existed being part and parcel of the "marginal plane" of Krishna's energies.

The jiva souls are everywhere (as individual units) throughout the Spiritual Sky, material creation and the dorment Brahmajyoti as unlimited individual units (jiva souls) who are in their full potential as follows-

sat,

chit, 

ananda, 

vigraha.

This means in English the individual jiva souls are-

eternity,

Knowledge,

bliss,

Bodily form.

The original full appearance of the jiva soul is an "eternal bodily form" a PERSON similar to Krishna's form.

This ORIGINAL eternal form of the jiva soul is a "bodily form" like Krishnas Prabhupada has said - two arms, two legs etc like Krishna has in Vṛndāvana and NOT His four armed form in the Vaikuntha Planets 

All of Krishna's marginal so called 'sparks' and so called 'atoms (souls) in the effulgence other sangas rant on about claiming in their original position are formless is nonsense.

The fact is some jiva souls are in that dormant condition because they are fallen to that condition and have forgotten their original two armed spiritual bodily form in Goloka-Vrindavana the Spiritual World.

Revatīnandana - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the spirit soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes".

Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva souls there are also fallen souls?".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes".(Room Conversation August 17, 1971, London)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970) 

Srila Prabhupada - ''When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness'' (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

In the jiva souls original state, they have the same bodily features like Krishna - sat-cit-ananda-vigraha (eternal bodily form) and are NOT a impersonal spark in Krishna's effulgence. 

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities is a two arm human looking form.

Yasomatinandana – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krishna, two hands, two legs”.

Hari-sauri – “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”

Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul”.

Hari-sauri - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”

Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krishna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krishna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krishna as cow, he serves Krishna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Ye yatha mam prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham [Bg. 4.11].

That is Krishna’s all-powerfulness, spiritual life."

The English word "generated" can be misleading if not properly understood because that word can mean a beginning point, or an origin point however, the jiva souls have no origin or beginning point because they have always existed and were never created.

Srila Prabhupada – "There is no new soul. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?''. (Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970)

The use of this word "generated" really means they are part and parcel of a category called the ''marginal energy or potency'', a collection of an unlimited number of individual jiva souls who are eternal meaning they have always existed.

As said above, the jiva souls were NEVER created or generated from any origin (starting point) because there is NO origin of the jiva souls, they have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end.

So the proper understanding is the marginal living entities, energy or potency (jiva souls), also known as tatastha sakti, are made up of unlimited jiva souls who are spread throughout the entire Spiritual Sky (all that there is)

The Sanskrit  word "sarva-gatah" means life (individual jiva souls) are EVERYWHERE.

"Tatastha sakti" is NOT a dormant place of inactive consciousness in the Cosmos where souls originate from, such an idea is nonsense. 

The "marginal plane, potency  or Tatastha-sakti" is NOT a place where jiva souls are "literally" generated from or originate from because the marginal living entities (jiva souls) have no origin as clearly explained above, they have always existed.

The "marginal plane" IS a collective of an unlimited number of perpetual individual "jiva souls" who are all around us throughout the Spiritual Sky (sarva-gatah) and have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end as Bhagavad Gita teaches.

Therefore no jiva souls were ever generated (created) from an impersonal point of origin in the Cosmos as some other sangas (other religious groups) wrongly believe.

These Sangas claim the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) originate (are generated) from an "impersonal clear sheet of consciousness" they foolshly call the marginal plane.

However, their understanding is wrong because the "marginal plane" ARE the living entities existing EVERYWHERE in the Spiritual Sky. They have no point of origin.

Therefore these other sanga's understanding of Krishna's "marginal potency of living entities or jiva souls" is nonsense because they haven't understood that the individual jiva souls ARE the marginal potency or plane and are EVERYWHERE throughout the Spiritual Sky and have no origin! 

The jiva-souls have ALWAYS been the marginal plane or potency who exist EVERYWHERE throughout the Spiritual Sky.

So lets make it clear, the marginal plane is NOT a place in outer space, it is ALL of the jiva souls who are beginningless and endless that are EVERYWHERE in the Spiritual Sky as Bhagavad Gita teaches. 

Also on the Spiritual platform there is no creation of more individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) because they were NEVER created, they have ALWAYS existed just like Krishna has. 

In other words, just like the Sun disc always maintains the Sun-rays and cannot exist apart, the Sun-rays CANNOT exist without the Sun-disc, similarly Krishna has no meaning without His devotees and His devotees have no meaning without Krishna like the Sun-rays has no meaning without the Sun-disc.

The jiva souls were NEVER created explained here-

Chapter 2 Text 20 Bhagavad Gita As It Is-

"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain". (BG Chapter 2 Text 20)

The jiva-souls are unique individual PERSONS who are independent parts and parcel of Krishna, yet dependent on Krishna like the sunrays are dependent on the Sun.

So it is clear the jiva souls are eternal without beginning or end and were NEVER generated (created) from some origin point like the impersonal Brahmajyoti other sangas wrongly preach.

Each of Krishna’s jiva-tattva devotees interacts with Him by their "free will" and CHOOSES one of five primary relationships as mentioned above. 

All jiva souls are EQUALLY intimate with Krishna because in the Spiritual World all relationships with Krishna are equally blissful, just like one may like a carnation flower while others choose to like a rose flower.

Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krishna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krishna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krishna as cow, he serves Krishna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Loving voluntary relationships with Krishna that one can choose number from one to five.

These five are -

1 - Neutrality, 

2 - Servitude, 

3 - Friendship, 

4 - Parental affection, 

5 - And conjugal love.

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