When death comes, it is NOT the real eternal PERSON (jiva-soul) inside the material body that dies, it is the material body.
The material body is NOT a person, it has no identity, individuality or personality because it is matter that merges back into the "oneness" of material energy when the jiva-soul (the real spiritual individual PERSON) leaves the material bodily vessel.
The material body (energy) covers who one really is, who is the eternal jiva-soul' spiritual identity (svarupa) and unique individual personality.
Devotee – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs”.
Hari-sauri dasa– “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”
Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul”.
Hari-sauri dasa- “They are covered in the spiritual world?”
Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
The jiva-soul in its original position IS a spiritual bodily form like Krsna, and is always that form eternally, but can voluntarily change their appearance at any time they choose so they can enter a particular pastime.
The jiva-soul can also appear as a bodiless "spark" which is an individual impersonal feature however, that can ONLY happen when the jiva-soul "falls down" from their original infinite position in the spiritual world of "being" the spiritual bodily form they are eternally (either on the Vaikuntha planets or in Krsna's central abode of Goloka-Vrindavana)
Srila Prabhupada told us long ago that the original features of the individual jiva-soul is a 2 armed bodily form like Krsna.
From there all other forms are voluntary and possible such as the 4 armed form on the Vaikuntha planets similar to Visnus Body.
So being a "spark" in the Brahmajyoti or dormant in the atom are FALLEN conditions of the jiva-soul.
The jiva-soul's infinite feature and full potential is a bodily form like Krsna. ALL jiva-souls eternally ARE an spiritual bodily form without a beginning or end as Bhagavad Gita As It Is teaches.
The jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the jiva-souls are indestructible.
The jiva-souls “generated” from the "marginal plane" does NOT mean the jiva-souls “originated” from a beginning source because the jiva-souls were NEVER created.
Being "Generated" means the individual jiva-souls are part and parcel of a category of living entities called the "marginal living entities" (marginal plane) who eternally exist as individual spiritual PERSONS and are beginningless and endless like Krsna.
This also means the jiva-souls did NOT originate from the impersonal (inactive) brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti or the Body of Maha-Visnu.
The jiva-souls NEVER appeared from anyone (including Krsna), or some source called tatastha-sakti because they were NEVER created, the jiva-souls are eternal like Krsna who has ALWAYS existed.
Furthermore, the jiva-souls NEVER originated from the impersonal (inactive) brahmajyoti or the Body of Maha-Visnu (both an already fallen condition the jiva-souls fall too Prabhupada explains)
Srila Prabhupada - "So this temporary material world is the taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the permanent (personal) characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics and enter the permanent (personal) characteristics. That is called spiritual elevation." (Lecture CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York City, Dec 28, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called taṭastha śakti." (Lecture BG, Ch 7 Text 4-5 Bombay, March 30, 1971)
Maya or material energy does NOT exist in the spiritual world however, free will always exists and allows the jiva-souls to make their own decisions, offerings, contributions etc and even accept or reject Krsna if they choose.
Srimad Bhagavatam explains the fall down of the marginal living entity (jiva-soul) from Vaikuntha into the material creation in the 4th Canto Chapter 28 text 53, where the Supreme Lord is disguised as a brahmana.
The brāhmaṇa said - "My dear friend, even though you cannot immediately recognize Me, can't you remember that in the past you had a very intimate friend? Unfortunately, you gave up My company and accepted a position as enjoyer of this material world." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 28 text 53)
The brahman effulgence (impersonal brahmajyoti), is a "fallen condition" the individual jiva-souls fall down too but can never remain in that "fallen condition" eternally.
Eventually, they are forced to leave that dormant inactive condition because the nature of the jiva-souls is to always be "active" in the service of Krsna and NOT remain inactive.
So, eventually the fallen jiva-souls leave the impersonal brahmajyoti and again take birth in the material world.
Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen."
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."
Revatīnandana dasa - "That means all jīva-souls there in the impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti) are also fallen souls?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness.'' (Letter to Revatinandana, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)
We are all "old souls" because the jiva-souls have always existed. There was no beginning to the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) existence, nor will there be an end as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains.
The jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can NEVER be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the jiva-souls are indestructible.
Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 9 July 1970)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29, 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30, 1983 edition)
If the jiva-souls choose, they CAN stay in the temporary decaying material universe's cycles of birth and death, and cycles of material annihilation and creations for an almost infinity!
There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed, which is eternity.
Also there is no Maya or material temptations in the spiritual world because Maya does not exist there. So Maya is NEVER the cause of fall down however, there is ALWAYS "free will" in the spiritual world Prabhupada explains.
Only when the jiva-souls are fallen do they appear formless or an impersonal spark or individual unit in Krsna's effulgence (impersonal aspect of the brahmajyoti) or dormant in the Body of Maha-Visnu.
Actually Krsna is everything! He is both "all-pervasive" and is an individual PERSON as a spiritual bodily form.
The fact is Krsna and His expansions including the individual jīva-souls, ARE all individual PERSONS as an eternal spiritual bodily form.
At all times the jiva-soul's spiritual bodily appearance is similar to Krsna's form, both Krsna and the jiva-souls were NEVER created. Both exist for infinity!
Although the jiva-souls can voluntarily change their appearance at ant time and be a flower, or a tree, or gopi, or cowherd boy, a chair Krsna sits on, or the grass Krsna walks on, or a cloud in the sky Krsna admires, the choices are unlimited.
The jiva-souls can be the flag pole on Krsna's chariot, or even Krsna's chariot, and at any moment change back to a 2 armed or 4 armed human like form. No bodily form is fixed in the spiritual worlds, the jiva-soul's rasa can constantly change.
It is all voluntary, you can be what ever you want to be if it is you genuine desire to please or amuse Krsna.
In the spiritual worlds the choice of the jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna is voluntary from a blade of grass to a tree, a cow or gopi.
Their, individual contributions are eternally expressed on both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana in a "two-way' reciprocal exchange with Krsna in unlimited different ways and bodily forms over eternity.
Only the "eternal presence" of Krsna exists in the spiritual world, where as in the material creation time is divided into "past, present and future" which causes a progressive state of decay, decline, impermanence and forgetfulness.
In the spiritual worlds the jiva-souls are never forced to surrender to Krsna or do anything they choose not to do, everything there is voluntary.
Also, there is no best bodily form in the spiritual world because ALL bodily forms the jiva-soul can voluntarily choose are equally blissful and equal to each other.
From the two armed bodily form in Vrindavana to the 4 armed bodily form on the Vaikuntha planets, to being a cow, an ant, a bee, a cloud in the sky, a bench, a fence, etc. Every aspect of the spiritual world is alive with unlimited individuals, nothing material (dead) can exist there in the spiritual world.
All jiva-souls as what ever form they choose to be, are equally blissful with what ever bodily form they choose to be.
The human form is NOT higher or better than any other form one may choose to be on the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka Vrindavana, just like in this world some like carnation flowers while others prefer roses, it's an individual voluntary choice best for you serving the Lord.
Although even though everything is equally blissful in the spiritual world, there are 5 different relationships with Krsna, with each one gradually becoming more intimate than the previous one.
One's original 2 armed spiritual body is always there as the basis, there is just a transformation of your spiritual body into a form you voluntarily choose.
From human form to a blade of grass, a cow, a horse, a chair, a cloud in the sky, a peacock, a different type of human, a four armed form like Visnu/Narayana on the Vaikuntha planets, there are unlimited different voluntary choices.×××.
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