Saturday, May 21, 2022

Krsna (God) is the source of everything but is also simultaneously the Supreme "PERSON," as an eternal Bodily Form seen in paintings.

God is NOT just an all-pervading consciousness, or only an impersonal force behind everything, no, Krsna (God) is also simultaneously the Supreme "PERSON," as an eternal bodily Form, seen in paintings below.

Only Krsna has 64 qualities in full because He is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

The Visnu-tattva (Visnu/Narayana) expansions of Krsna, who are also God, have only 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes or 93.75% of Krsna's qualities.

Some Vedic scholars and modern day Hindu academics can not understand why Krsna has 4 more qualities than Visnu/Narayana and why Krsna is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

They cannot understand that Visnu/Narayana are expansions of Krsna and not the other way around, that Krsna originates from Visnu as many Hindus today wrongly believe.

Even the word Hindu is not found in Vedic texts because it is an alien word introduced by European and Islamic invaders to the Indian sub-continent around 2,500 to 1,500 years ago. 

Krsna is not an expansion of Visnu either as many Hindus wrongly believe today.

Krsna is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes from whom all variety of living entities (all life) originates from.

This includes the fallen dormant jiva-souls (marginal living entities) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, and all non-living matter in the mahat-tattva (material world)

The 4 qualities all other living entities, including Visnu/Narayana expansions do not have in full, are as follows-

(1) Krsna is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes)

(2) Krsna is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.

(3) Krsna can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.

(4) Krsna has a wonderful excellence of beauty which can not be rivalled anywhere in the creation.

These four qualities out of Krsna's 64 attributes are important to understand because, as said, not even Visnu/Narayana  forms of God, who includes Balarama, have them in always, only sometimes exhibited partially when Krsna expands Himself and appears in the material world.

Childhood Krsna never leaves Vrindavana therefore a Visnu-tattva form of Krsna expands and plays the part of Krsna in the material world.

Srimad Bhagavatam - "Sakti means the "energy of Krsna." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 6 text 43)

Krsna has many different energies-

1 - The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are one of Krsna's energies. 

2 - Matter (mahat-tattva, material energy or maya) is one of Krsna's energies.

3 - The different consorts and associates of Krsna, the internal potency known as Visnu-"sakti"-tattva, are one of Krsna's energies. 

4 - The direct expansions of Krsna known as Visnu-tattva, are one of Krsna's energies.

5 - Lord Siva (Siva-tattva) who is in a league of his own is one of Krsna's energies.  

All the living entity expansions of Krsna are-

1 - Visnu-tattva have 60 qualities out of Krsna's 64 attributes, which is 93.75 of Krsna's total qualities.

2 - Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas also has 60 qualities (this category of "sakti" potency or energy means direct full expansions of Krsna like Srimati Radharani and her Vrindavana associates have 93.75 of Krsna's attributes.

3 - Siva-tattva or Lord Siva has 55 qualities of Krsna's 64 qualities or 85.938% of Krsna's attributes.

4 - Jiva-tattva (the jiva-souls) have 50 of Krsna's 64 qualities, which is 78.125% of Krsna's attributes.

The Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna has all sixty-four transcendental qualities in full.

So, the difference between Krsna (64 qualities) and Visnu/Narayana (60 qualities) are the four extra qualities that only Krsna has in full.

The full extent of Krsna's wonderful qualities or attributes is inconceivable.

Here are Krsna's 64 qualities-

(1) Beautiful features of the entire body

(2) Marked with all auspicious characteristics

(3) Extremely pleasing

(4) Effulgent

(5) Strong

(6) Ever youthful

(7) Wonderful linguist

(8) Truthful

(9) Talks pleasingly

(10) Fluent

(11) Highly learned

(12) Highly intelligent

(13) Genius

(14) Artistic

(15) Extremely clever

(16) Expert

(17) Grateful

(18) Firmly determined

(19) An expert judge of time and circumstances

(20) Sees and speaks on the authority of Vedas (scriptures)

(21) Pure

(22) Self-controlled

(23) Steadfast

(24) Forbearing

(25) Forgiving

(26) Grave

(27) Self-satisfied

(28) Possessing equilibrium

(29) Magnanimous

(30) Religious

(31) Heroic

(32) Compassionate

(33) Respectful

(34) Gentle

(35) Liberal

(36) Shy

(37) The protector of surrendered souls

(38) Happy

(39) The well-wisher of devotees

(40) Controlled by love

(41) all-auspicious

(42) Most powerful

(43) all-famous

(44) Popular

(45) Partial to devotees

(46) Very attractive to all women

(47) all-worship able

(48) all-opulent

(49) all-honourable

(50) The supreme controller.

(51) Changeless

(52) all-cognizant

(53) Ever fresh

(54) sac-cid-ananda-vigraha as an eternal spiritual "Bodily Form."

(55) Possessing all mystic perfections.

(56) He has inconceivable potency.

(57) Uncountable universes generate from His body.

(58) He is the original source of all incarnations.

(59) He is the giver of salvation to the enemies whom He kills.

(60) He is the attractor of liberated souls.

As explained above, besides these sixty transcendental qualities, Krsna has four more not manifested even in the Visnu/Narayana form of Godhead, what to speak of the demigods or living entities.

They are as follows-

(61) He is the performer of wonderful varieties of pastimes (especially His childhood pastimes).

(62) He is surrounded by devotees endowed with wonderful love of Godhead.

(63) He can attract all living entities all over the universes by playing on His flute.

(64) He has a wonderful excellence of beauty that can not be rivalled anywhere in the creation.

The Absolute Truth Lord Krsna is anandamaya (desiring to increase His joy), hence, from Krsna's original form, He expands and becomes many.

These emanations from the Supreme Person are of two categories: full expansions and partially manifested expansions.

The Lord's various full and partial expansions and the Lord Himself simultaneously co-exist, only appearing to manifest under the influence of time.

These expansions of Krsna are known as Visnu-tattva Forms of God, and they are also the Supreme Absolute Truth such as-

Balarama, 

Pradyumna, 

Ramachandra, 

Narsingadeva,  

Narayana, 

Visnu,

Maha-Visnu, 

Garbhodakashayi Visnu, etc.

All expansions of Krsna are His "sakti energies."

Srila Prabhupada - "Sakti means the energy of Krsna." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 6 text 43)

Radharani and many other inhabitants including many gopis and gopas who are technically Krsna Himself playing a role in His own Vrindavana pastimes are therefore called Visnu-"sakti"-tattva, and serve Krsna alongside the jiva-souls.

All Visnu-tattvas (like Balarama) and other Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas like Srimati Radharani accept their own role in the mood of Servitor to the "original" Supreme Being Lord Krsna.

And then there is Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas like Radharani, associates and many other inhabitants including many gopis and gopas who are technically Krsna Himself playing a role in His own Vrindavana pastimes alongside the jiva-souls.

All Visnu-tattva and Visnu-"sakti"-tattva accept their own role in the mood of Servitor to the "original" Supreme Being Lord Krsna.

For example, Visnu/Narayana Forms of God are known by many different unlimited names on their particular Vaikuntha planet in the Spiritual sky.

This relationship is the foundation of Vedic monotheism, which encompasses the inconceivable, absolute personal nature of the original Godhead.

As explained above, Lord Krsna possesses two other expansive qualities known as Siva-tattva and jiva-tattva (jiva-souls). 

Together with Visnu-tattva and Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas, these four personalities are representative of the Absolute Person's (Krsna's) internal, external, and marginal energies.

The Lord expands Himself as Lord Siva and Lord Brahma, and the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are also expansions. Like us, Lord Brahma is also jiva-tattva or jiva-soul (78.125%)

Lord Siva is between Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva. Lord Siva has 85.938% of Krsna's qualities which is 55 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

Lord Visnu/Narayana is Visnu-tattva (93.75%)

And Radharani is Visnu-"sakti"-tattva (93.75%), which only means she does not always exhibit Krsna's four extra qualities always in full.

When Krsna desired to experience loving affection and exchanges with a woman, He expanded Himself as Srimati Radharani, who is none different than Krsna.

Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva are different categories of living entities but are all expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna.

Therefore, as a reminder, we can summarize as follows-

Lord Krsna has all His 64 qualities (100%)

Visnu-tattva has 60 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes (93.75%)

Visnu-"sakti"-tattvas also has 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes (93.75%)

Siva-tattva has 55 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes (85.938%)

Jiva-tattva (jiva-souls) has 50 qualities of Krsna's 64 attributes (78.125%)

This is the reason why Krsna is called Param Purushottam, Purnavatar or Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Learned scholars in transcendental subjects have carefully analyzed the summum bonum Krsna to have sixty-four principal attributes. All the expansions or categories of the Lord possess only some percentages of these attributes. But Sri Krsna is the possessor of the attributes cent percent. His personal expansions such as svayam-prakasa, tad-ekatma up to the categories of the avataras who are all visnu-tattva, possess up to 93.75% of these transcendental attributes." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 3 Text 29)

Lord Siva is neither avatara nor avesa, nor in between them; he possesses 85.938% of Krsna's attributes (having 55 qualities out of Krsna's 64 qualities).

The jiva-souls or the individual marginal living entities, possess up to the limit of 78.125% of Krsns's attributes.

The jiva-souls can never be Visnu-tattva (God) or Siva-tattva. Siva is a devotee of Krsna in a mysterious category of his own. Siva is not Visnu-tattva (God) or jiva-tattva.

In the conditioned state in material existence, the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) exhibit up to 50 of these attributes in very minute quantity in the material creation, varying in terms of the pious and impious life of the living being, where as in the spiritual world all 50 qualities are exhibited.

Only in the spiritual world are the jiva-soul's full potential fully experienced.

The most perfect of living beings in this material universe is Brahma, the supreme administrator of each material universe deep inside their surrounding Brahmanda greater universe.

Lord Brahma, who is also jiva-soul, possesses 78.125% per cent of Krsna's 100% attributes, he cannot possess anymore than that.

All the demigods except Siva have only 78.125% attributes or have 50 of Krsna's 64 qualities also. 

All jiva-souls trapped in the 8 million 400 thousand species of material life, also possess these same attributes in their full potential in the spiritual world but presently covered by material energy.

The standard of perfection for a human form of life is to realize their full potential as the jiva-soul within the material body that has of 78.125% of Krsna's quantities. 

The marginal living entities or jiva-souls can never possess attributes like Siva, Visnu, Radharani, Balarama or Lord Krsna.

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) can become godly by developing their full potential of 78.125% of Krsna's qualities but can never become a God like Krsna or Visnu (93.75%), or Personality like Siva (85.938%).

Although the jiva-souls can become a Brahma in due course as mentioned above.

The godly living beings who are all residents of the Vaikuntha planets in the spiritual sky are eternal associates of Visnu in different spiritual planets called Hari-dhama and Mahesa-dhama.

However, the abode of Lord Krsna Goloka Vrindavana is above all the Vaikuntha planets and is called Krsnaloka or Goloka Vrndavana.

The marginal living entity (jiva-soul) can develop 78.125% of the above attributes in full, which is their full potential; they can NEVER become Krsna, Visnu or Siva.

By reaching their full potential of 78.125%, the jiva-souls can again enter the planet of Krsna-loka (Goloka-Vrindavana) or the Vaikuntha planets after leaving their present decaying material bodily vessel in the material creation.

Srila Prabhupada - "The answer to your question about the "marginal living entities" is that the jiva-soul is always called marginal energy whether he is in the spiritual world or in the material world. There are instances where marginal energy jiva-souls have fallen from the spiritual world, just like Jaya and Vijaya. So the potency to fall under the influence of the lower energy is always there. And thus the individual jiva-soul is called as Krsna’s marginal energy." (Letter to Rayarama, Dec 2, 1968)

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body.

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." So Kṛṣṇa is also like human form, two hands, two legs." The human form is also the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

As said above, the full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is a two-arm, two leg spiritual bodily form like Krsna's Body, and do NOT originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti as impersonalists foolishly believe.

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

The jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS as a spiritual bodily form and can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the jiva-souls are indestructible.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 Text 12)

Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)

There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed, and NEVER created, which is eternity. 

Being an "inactive" (dormant) so-called "spiritual spark" in the impersonal Brahmajyoti is an already fallen unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential, are a spiritual bodily PERSON fully active like Krsna in the spiritual world serving Him explained above, which is the jiva-soul's natural eternal home.

Krsna's effulgence is known as the dormant (inactive) [impersonal] Brahmajyoti made up of a collective of "inactive" individual jiva-souls appearing there after being frustrated with the material world's temporary bodily vessels to become a bodiless "spiritual individual sparks" in the impersonal Brahmajyoti which is also a "fallen" unnatural conditioned state of the jiva-soul.

As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a spiritual spark is an unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential IS a PERSON as a spiritual bodily form in their eternal natural state, serving Krsna the Supreme Lord.

Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal Brahmajyoti is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness and a fallen condition therefore, those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in a fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. We do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated, the living entities first falling down to this material world are NOT from the impersonal brahman. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition and that non-fallen condition is Krsna cconsciousness. 

So long one can maintain pure Krsna consciousness he is NOT fallen down. As soon as he becomes out of Krsna consciousness immediately he is fallen down. Those who are thinking that they are liberated by being situated in brahman effulgence are described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam as impurely intelligent. So, we do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated. In other words, they are actually not liberated, and because they are not actually liberated they again come down to the material world." (Letter to  Revatinandana dasa, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a "spiritual spark" is the unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential IS a PERSON as a spiritual bodily form associating with Krsna in His eternal pastimes.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body.^*

















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