Saturday, June 4, 2022

Who is Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu (Maha-Visnu). And how many Brahmas are there, and how many heads do they have?

Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu (Maha-Visnu) is the first of the Purushas (controllers, also known as Visnus and Narayanas), incarnations of Krsna for the creation of the material universe.

There are three main Visnu expansions in the material creation.

1 - Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu (Maha-Visnu)

2 - Garbhodakashayi Visnu (Hiraņyagarbha) 

3 - Kshirodakashayi Visnu (Paramatma and Supersoul) 

Maha-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu) creates innumerable universes known as Brahmandas that come from the pores of His skin and breathing as He sleeps and dreams the material creation. 

He lies down in the Causal Ocean on the bed of Ananta Shesha (a snake looking expansion of Lord Balarama) and initiates the creation by glancing at His personified material energy, Maya.

From Maha-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu) comes the other two Visnus: 

Garbhodakashayi Visnu who creates the secondary universe deep within the massive Brahmanda universe.

And Kshirodakashayi Visnu known also as Paramatma who accompanies all the jiva-souls who enter the material creation.

Maha-Visnu creates the innumerable Brahmanda universes of various sizes, our Brahmanda universe is small compared to others and is said to be 44 quadrillion 444 trillion 444 billion miles in diameter, or double that size if measured from the outer edge of the inner secondary material universe inside it.

Garbhodakashayi Visnu enters into each secondary universe that is deep inside of each Brahmanda universe. 

From His naval a lotus stem grows and a lotus flower appears at its end where Lord Brahma resides.

Our Lord Brahma has 4 heads making our inner universe called Bhu-Mandala very small at only 4 billion miles in diameter. 

Other Lord Brahmas in other secondary material universes within their surrounding Brahmanda have 10 or 100 or 1000, 10,000, 1000,000 or more heads!

This means the Brahmanda universe encasing our inner Bhu-Mandala universe is very small compared to other Brahmandas.

Ksirodakashayi Visnu enters into each atom in every universe and sits with us souls in our hearts as Supersoul.

Wherever their is Ksirodakashayi Vishnu, also known as Paramatma or Super Soul, there is the jiva tattva or individual jiva-soul and that is everywhere in the material creation (Sarva-gatah - life is everywhere)

Technically there is no difference between anti-matter and matter because Visnu and the jiva-soul is also in the material atom but in that condition outside the spiritual world is dormant. One is simply "active" spiritual energy and the other is "inactive" spiritual energy.

With dead matter like stone in the material creation, the consciousness of the jiva-souls as that stone are completely dormant, which means almost dead (totally inactive) hence dead matter.  

Another aspect of impersonalism.

The only difference between matter, where the jiva-souls are mostly dormant, and anti-matter, is the jiva-souls are fully active.

Everything is originally based on personalism or spiritual energy known as anti-matter that is made up of unlimited individual jiva-souls. 

However, the material creation is where anti-matter (jiva-souls) are dormant and therefore in an impersonal existence.

1/4 of the Spiritual Sky is known as "matter" (death or lifeless energy) that covers the individual jiva-souls in a bodily material vessel, who have fallen to the material world from the spiritual world. However, even the "lifeless energy" the jiva-souls have fallen too, they can fall further and become dormant in the material atom, which is a similar non-existent state known as the impersonal brahmajyoti.

3/4 of the Spiritual Sky is is known as "anti-matter" (individual life exiting everwhere) which spiritually activity based on individual persons (as Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva living entities) active in the service of Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

Matter is inactive (almost dead) spiritual energy where the jiva-souls are dormant  and Visnu are in the atom)

The jiva-soul in the material atom is inactive and almost dead Prabhupada explains. 

Srila Prabhupada - "The natural full potential of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is to be fully active in the service of Krsna, such an eternal place known as the spiritual world, is living individual anti-matter (75% of the Spiritual Sky), where each individual living entity is serving the Lord in unlimited ways, and where mundane dead matter (25% of the Spiritual Sky) does not exist." (From Prabhupada's Book "Easy Journey to Other Planets")

Revatīnandana - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva-souls there are also fallen souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

The jiva-soul's original position in Goloka-Vrindavana from where they originated from, have the same bodily features as Krsna- 

sat, 

cit, 

ananda, 

vigraha.

Which means-

Eternity, 

Knowledge, 

Bliss, 

Form.

They all come together as a perpetual bodily form like Krsna's body.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities, is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body.

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal PERSONS, as a spiritual bodily form like Krsna's Body, whose perpetual permanent natural home is the spiritual world.

God (Krsna) is not ONLY an all-pervading consciousness who is even in the atom, no, Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, is also simultaneously an individual "PERSON" as an eternal spiritual bodily Form, who's Bodily rays ARE the Brahmajyoti.

Srila Prabhupada - "Each "person" (jiva-soul) is eternal. Lord Krsna says that He existed as a person before the creation (agre) and will also exist after the annihilation, the Lord is a "person" eternally." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 4 text 47, Purport)

Devotee - "If the spirit soul (jiva-soul) is nonmaterial and has form, what is that form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand, you have got leg; therefore your pant has got leg. Therefore, it is to be assumed that the spirit soul has got form, and it has developed into hands, legs, heads, everything. It is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 text 14 Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you state that spirit soul has form."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Devotee - "Otherwise, how is the material body grown to accommodate the spirit soul? Just like a shirt has no form, but when it's put on the body, it takes the shapes of the body. Does that mean that the jiva-soul has the shape of the body that is accommodating it?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, you have got body, shape, very minute shape, that we cannot see, we cannot measure. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, anumeyam. You cannot measure. What is that word used? Aprameyam. Aprameyam, you cannot measure but it has a form. What is the length and breadth of that form, that is not in your power to understand, not materially. If you have got spiritual power then you can measure it. And that measurement is also given in the śāstra. What is that? One ten-thousandth part of the tip of the hair. Hair is a very small point. And divide it into ten thousand parts. That one part is the measure, magnitude of the soul." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 16 text 24 Hawaii, Jan 20, 1974)

Hayagrīva dasa - "There is no difference between God's form and His spiritual self?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, as in the material world any form-man or beast or anyone—in the outward, external covering is matter, but within the matter there is the soul. The soul has form and God has form. That is real form. And the material form is simply shirting and coating over the spiritual body." 

Hayagrīva dasa - "Thomas Aquinas considered that matter was necessary to give the jiva-soul form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "No, no, he has got his original form."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Original form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Which is the form of the body."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Original form, that is the form of the spirit (jiva-soul)."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Of the spirit."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, and the form of the body takes place on account of the form of the spirit (jiva-soul). This is very nice example. The cloth has no form, but when it is cut according to the form of the gentleman, it takes a form. Similarly, matter has no form. When it is coated on the spiritual form of the soul, it takes the form. This is very easy to understand." (Philosophy Discussion with Srila Prabhupāda on Thomas Aquinas beliefs)

The word "Vaikuntha" means "without anxiety" therefore how could there be demons on the Vaikuntha planets or in Goloka-Vrindavana? 

Furthermore, how could the gopis ever feel separation from Kṛṣṇa there? After all Krsna NEVER leaves Goloka Vrindavana.

Jayatīrtha dasa - "If the original Kṛṣṇa is always in Vṛndāvana, then why do the gopīs and Rādhārāṇī feel separation from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That is here, in this material world. In the spiritual world Kṛṣṇa does not leave."

Jayatīrtha dasa - "Oh."

Srila Prabhupāda - "And even in the material world, Kṛṣṇa superficially has gone to Mathurā, but He has captured the heart of the gopīs. So He is not leaving. Gopīs are enjoying Kṛṣṇa by separation. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's feeling, how He is appreciating Kṛṣṇa by separation." (Morning Walk, July 17, 1975, San Francisco

Once while Krsna was ruling Dvaraka, Lord Brahma from our material universe came to see Him.

Our small material universe, created by Garbhodakashayi Visnu, is maintained by our Lord Brahma who builds the planetary systems inside it.

Furthermore, our material universe is deep inside a larger surrounding universe called a Brahmanda that comes from the Body of Maha-Visnu and his breathing.

There are billions of these massive Brahmanda universes each with a secondary smaller material universe inside of them.

The doorman of Dvaraka immediately informed Krsna of Brahma’s arrival.

When Krsna was informed, He immediately asked the doorman- 

Krsna - "Which Brahma is it? What is his name, what universe is he from?"

The doorman returned and questioned Lord Brahma of which Brahma he was.

The doorman asked - "Which Brahma are you, which universe are you from?"

Lord Brahma was very surprised as he believed he was the only Brahma.

Lord Brahma said - "Please inform Krsna that I am the four-headed Brahma who is the father of the four Kumaras."

The doorman then went and told Krsna what Brahma had said and Krsna then gave Brahma permission to enter. 

The doorman escorted Lord Brahma in, and as soon as Brahma saw Krsna he offered obeisances at the Supreme Lord's Lotus feet.

After being worshiped by Brahma, Krsna also honored Lord Brahma with suitable words. 

Krsna asked - "Why have you come to visit me?"

Brahma replied - "I will later tell You why I have come but first I have some doubts in my mind which I wish You too kindly answer why did you inquire which Brahma had come to see You? What is the purpose of such an inquiry? Is there any other Brahma besides me within the universe?"

Upon hearing this, Krsna smiled and closed His eyes in meditation.

Then immediately an unlimited number of Brahmas appeared instantly to the great suprise of our Brahma.

Furthermore all these Brahmas had a different numbers of heads than our Brahma's four heads. 

Some had ten heads, some twenty, some a hundred, some a thousand, some had ten thousand, some had a hundred thousand, some had ten million and some had hundreds of millions. 

No one can count the number of faces they had and Lord Brahma was totally amazed at what he was seeing.

To Brahma's surprise, there also arrived many Lord Sivas with various heads numbering one hundred thousand and also some with ten million!

Many Indras also arrived, and they had hundreds of thousands of eyes all over their bodies.

When our four-headed Brahma from our single material universe situated deep inside our surrounding Brahmanda, saw all these opulences of Krsna, he became very bewildered and considered himself to be very small and insignificant in a great material universal creation that was much bigger than he could ever imagined existed!

As these Brahmas that arrived to see Krsna, offered their respects at Krsna’s lotus feet, and when they did this, their helmets touched His lotus feet.

No one can estimate the inconceivable potency of Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes. 

All the Brahmas who were there,  were resting in the one body of Krsna.

When all their helmets struck together at Krsna’s ’s lotus feet, there was a tumultuous sound. 

It appeared that the helmets themselves were offering prayers unto Krsna’s lotus feet.

With folded hands, all the Brahmas and Sivas began to offer prayers unto Krsna, saying, "O Lord, You have shown me a great favour. I have been able to see Your lotus feet."

All the Brahmas then said - "It is my great fortune, Lord Krsna, that You have called me, thinking of me as Your servant. Now let me know what Your order is so that I may carry it on all my heads."

Krsna replied - "Since I wanted to see all of you together, I have called all of you here, all of you should be happy. Is there any fear from the demons?"

The Brahms replied - "By Your mercy, we are victorious everywhere, whatever burden was upon us You have taken away by descending on my planet in my universe."

All the Brahmas then believed that Krsna was always staying in their jurisdiction.

None of the Brahmas could see the other Brahmas except for our Brahma who Krsna allowed to be seen so he could understand he is not the only Lord Brahma.

Thus the opulence of Krsna's abode Dvaraka was perceived by each and every one of the Lord Brahmas. 

As already explained, although they were all assembled together, none of the Lord Brahma could see any other Brahma.

Krsna then bade farewell to all the Brahmas, and after offering their obeisances, they all returned to their respective material universes that exists deep inside their respected larger Brahmanda universes.

As said above, after observing all these opulences, our four-headed Brahma from our universe was astonished. He again came before the lotus feet of Krsna and offered Him obeisances.

Brahma said - "Whatever I formerly decided about my knowledge, I have just now had personally verified -

jananta eva janantu

kim bahuktya na me prabho

manaso vapuso vaco

vaibhavam tava gocarah

There are people who say, I know everything about Krsna. Let them think in that way. As far as I am concerned, I do not wish to speak very much about this matter. O my Lord, let me say this much. As far as your opulence’s are concerned, they are all beyond the reach of my mind, body and words." (SB Canto 10 Ch 14 text 38)

Krsna says - "Your particular universe extends four billion miles in diameter; therefore it is the smallest of all the material universes. Consequently you have only four heads."

Some of the secondary universes (inside the Brahmanda) are 4 billion miles in diameter, some are 8 billion, some 80 billion miles etc etc. Thus they are almost unlimited in area.

And the size of the outer Brahmanda universes are different too, some are billion of times bigger than our Brahmanda.

And as already explained, the size of each secondary material universe inside their larger Brahmanda, is determined by the number of heads each Brahma has. 

Maha-Visnu maintains innumerable material universes (Brahmandas) originating from His bodily pores and breathing.

Krsna explains - "No one can measure the length and breadth of one fourth of My energy. And who can measure the three fourths that is eternally manifest in the spiritual world?"

Beyond the River Viraja is a spiritual nature, which is indestructible, eternal, inexhaustible and unlimited. 

The Supreme Abode consists of three fourths of the Lord’s opulences and is known as paravyoma, the Spiritual Sky." (Adapted from Sri Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya-lila Ch 21)**













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