In other words (without beginning or end) ALL jiva-souls are nitya-siddha eternally Krsna conscious personalities as a spiritual bodily form.
The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body.
Srila Prabhupada - "God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." So Kṛṣṇa is also like human form, two hands, two legs." The human form is also the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)
Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)
As said above, the full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is a two-arm, two leg spiritual bodily form like Krsna's Body, and do NOT originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti as impersonalists foolishly believe.
Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"
Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."
Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
The jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the jiva-souls are indestructible.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 Text 12)
Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)
There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed which is eternity.
Being an "inactive" (dormant) so-called "spiritual spark" in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, is an already a fallen unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential, are a spiritual bodily PERSON (form) fully active in Krsna's pastimes.
As explained, the eternal spiritual bodily form of the jiva-souls is like Krsna's Bodily form in the spiritual world as explained above. The Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are the jiva-soul's natural eternal home.
Krsna's effulgence is known as the dormant (inactive) [impersonal] Brahmajyoti made up of a collective of "inactive" individual jiva-souls appearing there after being frustrated with the material world's temporary material bodily vessels, they attempt to end their existence by trying to extinguish their identity as an individual person.
The frustrated jiva-souls attempt to extinguish their identity and personality by entering the impersonal brahmajyoti as a bodiless spiritual individual sparks, which is the "fallen" unnatural artificial conditional state of the jiva-soul (marginal living entity)
As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a spiritual spark in the brahmajyoti, is the unnatural state of the jiva-souls, who in their full potential as Krsna's eternal servant, ARE a PERSON appearing eternally as a spiritual bodily form living in their eternal natural home in the spiritual world serving Krsna the Supreme Lord.
Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal Brahmajyoti is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness and a fallen condition therefore, those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in a fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. We do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated, the living entities first falling down to this material world are NOT from the impersonal brahman. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition and that non-fallen condition is Krsna cconsciousness.
So long one can maintain pure Krsna consciousness he is NOT fallen down. As soon as he becomes out of Krsna consciousness immediately he is fallen down. Those who are thinking that they are liberated by being situated in brahman effulgence are described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam as impurely intelligent. So, we do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated. In other words, they are actually not liberated, and because they are not actually liberated they again come down to the material world." (Letter to Revatinandana dasa, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a "spiritual spark" is the unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential IS a PERSON as a spiritual bodily form associating with Krsna in His eternal pastimes.
Furthermore, there is no such thing as two classes of marginal living entities (jiva-souls), one being in the spiritual world, and the other being in the material world.
The first being only nitya-siddha who remains always in the spiritual world, and the other being nitya-baddha who begins their existence in the material worlds and can progress to the spiritual world and become nitya-siddha.
No, originally ALL jiva-souls are nitya-siddha Krsna conscious marginal living entities.
This means all nitya-baddhas in both the material creation and the impersonal Brahmajyoti were originally nitya-siddha devotees of Krsna or Visnu, Prabhupada has explained.
Srila Prabhupada - "The actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity is nitya-siddha. By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, the jiva-soul can become AGAIN nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha." (NY City Lecture on CC, July 13, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense, everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna, he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
Srila Prabhupada - "The "immediate" expansions of the Lord are called svāṁśa or personal direct expansions (Visnu-tattva who are Krsna playing another role in His own pastimes) The "separated" expansions of the Lord are called vibhinnāṁśa - (jiva-tattva) or independent jiva-souls like us." (From BG 10.37, Purport)
The majority of jiva-souls (over 90%) never fall down from being nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) while in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana; only less than 10% choose to enter the material creation and become nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) Prabhupada explains here.
Dr. John Mize – "Did all the jiva-souls that were in the spiritual sky fall out of the spiritual sky at once, or at different times, or are there any jiva-souls that are always good, they’re not foolish, they don’t fall down?"
Srila Prabhupada – "No, there are majority, 90%, they are always good. They never fall down."
Dr. John Mize – "So we’re among the 10%?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, or less than that. In the material, the whole material world, all the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are like in the prison house, there is some population, but they are not majority. The majority of the population are outside the prison house. Similarly, the majority of living being, part and parcel of God, they are in the spiritual world, only a few fall down."
Dr. John Mize – "Does Krsna know ahead of time that a jiva-soul is going to be foolish and fall?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna? Yes, Krsna may know because He is omniscient."
Dr. John Mize – "Are more jiva-souls falling all the time?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Not all the time. But there is the tendency of fall down, not for all, but because there is independence and free will but everyone is not liking to misuse their independence. The same example is just like a government constructs a prison house because the government knows that some will be criminals.
So, their shelter must also be constructed. It is very easy to understand. Not that cent per cent population will be criminal, but the government knows that some of them will be. Otherwise, why do they construct prison house also?
One may say, "Where are the criminals? You are constructing a prison?" But Government knows there will be criminals. So, if the ordinary government can know, why God can not also know? Because there is always tendency."
Dr. John Mize – "The origin of that tendency (to fall from Goloka or Vaikuntha) is what? From where does that tendency come?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Tendency means independence. So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot fall down, that is not independence. That is force. Therefore, Krsna says, yathecchasi tathä kuru. "Now you do whatever you like." (BG lecture, Mayapur, June 20, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "We never had any occasion when we were separated from Krsna. For example, when a man is dreaming, he forgets himself. In a dream he creates himself in different forms—"Now I am the king." This creation of himself is as two things – 1) as the seer, and 2) as the subject matter, or seen.
As soon as the dream is over, the "seen" disappears, but the seer remains; now he is in his original, awake position.
Our separation from Krsna is like that. We dream this body and so many relationships with other things. First the attachment comes to enjoy sense gratification.
Even when we are with Krsna the desire for sense gratification is there. There is a tendency to forget Krsna and create an atmosphere for enjoying independently from Krsna.
At the edge of the beach, sometimes water covers the sand, and sometimes there is dry sand; the ocean is coming and going. Our position is like that, sometimes covered, sometimes free, just like at the edge of the tide.
As soon as we forget Krsna, immediately illusion is there; just as when we sleep, a dream is there.
We cannot say, therefore, that we are not with Krsna, as soon as we try to become Krsna immediately we're covered by maya.
Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila, or sport, but this covering of maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going.
Due to this long period of time it is sometimes said that we are forever conditioned, but this long duration of time becomes very insignificant when one actually goes to Krsna.
In a dream we think a very long time is passing, but as soon as we awaken from the dream we look at our watch and see it has been only a moment.
Another example is how Krsna’s friends were kept asleep for one year by Brahma, but when they awoke and Krsna returned, they considered that only a moment had passed.
This "dreaming" condition is called non-liberated life, it is just like a dream.
Although by material calculation it is a long, long, long long period, as soon as we come to Krsna consciousness this period is considered less than a moment.
Jaya and Vijaya, the gate keepers at a gateway to Vaikuntha, the spiritual world, once refused entrance to four great sages, the Kumaras. The sages then cursed Jaya and Vijaya to fall to the material world.
Lord Visnu gave the gatekeepers of Vaikuntha a choice, to play out their curse in the material creation for 7 life times as devotees, or 3 life times demons.
The sages agreed to this by saying that after three births as demons, Jaya and Vijaya would be again reinstated to their former post in Vaikuntha.
Thus Jaya and Vijaya eventually attained sayujya-mukti, merging into the body of the Lord for a short time, and then returning back home, back to Godhead in Vaikuntha, the spiritual world.
This is discussed in Srimad-Bhagavatam, Canto Three, chapters fifteen and sixteen, and Canto Seven, chapter one.
Jaya and Vijaya had their lila with Krsna, but they had to come down [to the material world] for their little mistake. They were given mukti, merging into the Brahma-sayujya [Lord Krsna’s impersonal effulgence], after being killed three times as demons.
This Brahma-sayujya mukti is nonpermanent. Every living entity wants pleasure, but Brahma-sayujya is lacking in pleasure; it consists only of eternal existence.
So when those who get Brahma-sayujya mukti do not find transcendental bliss, they fall down to make a compromise with material bliss, for example, by founding schools and hospitals.
Even Lord Brahma wants to lord it over the material world. He may come down to become a germ, but then he may rise up to Krsna consciousness and go back home, back to Godhead. This is the position.
So when I say yes, there is eternal lila with Krsna, that means on the evidence of Jaya-Vijaya. Unless one develops full devotional service to Krsna, he goes up only to Brahma-sayujya but eventually falls down.
But after millions and millions and millions of years of keeping oneself away from the lila of the Lord, when one comes to Krsna consciousness this period becomes insignificant, just like a dreaming moment.
Because he falls down from Brahma-sayujya (impersonal Brahmajyoti), he thinks that this may be his origin, but he does not remember that even before that, he was with Krsna.
So the conclusion is that whatever may be our past, let us come to Krsna consciousness and immediately join Krsna.
It is a waste of time for a diseased man to try to find out how he has become diseased; better to spend time curing the disease." ('Crow-And-Tal-Fruit Logic' letter to Madhudvisa Swami, July 1972 Melb, Australia)
Srila Prabhupada - "Your question about one's relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime, so there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 4/25/1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "When the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But, when the supreme marginal potency is in contact with the spiritual potency, Harā, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity." (The Happening Record Album, NY City USA Dec, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada – "Where are the spirit souls coming from? These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 7/9/1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense, everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna, he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna, he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
Srila Prabhupada - "So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas (eternally conditioned) AGAIN nitya-siddha (eternally liberated), it is a difficult task." (London lecture BG, Ch 13, 14, July 14, 1973)
Acyutananda - "So what made the jiva-soul take birth in the first place in the material creation?"
Srila Prabhupada - "In the first place?"
Acyutananda - "What is the first birth? What is the cause of the first birth?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes that is stated in the Prema vivarta:
krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare
We are eternal servants of Krsna. As soon as we want to become master, that is the beginning of our first birth in the material world. We have got that independence. Krsna says, mamaivamso jiva bhutah, we are part and parcel of Krsna, so Krsna has got full independence, but we are minute; therefore we have got minute independence. Our business is to serve Krsna, but as soon as we give up this idea, we want to become master. That is the beginning of our material birth." (Lecture SB, Canto 5 Ch 5 text 2, Hyderabad, April 11, 1975)
Acyutananda - "But in the Bhagavad Gita it says, once in the spiritual world, one never again returns to the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "But if he likes he can return."
Acyutananda - "He can return?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, that is voluntary, that independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown." (Morning Walk Feb 19, 1976, Mayapur)
Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura - "When the marginal living entity has contact with matter, the imprisoned soul loses the memory of his original spiritual form in Vaikuntha, material rasas (tastes and desires) are perverted reflections of the soul's original spiritual rasas." (Prema-pradipa, p. 83)
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us "free will" if He knew we could miss use it and fall down in the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will. But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Loving relationships and expressions of service are always a "two-way street" based on reciprocation and loving exchanges between two.
A loving relationship can never be a domineering one-sided relationship or dictatorship because that will only destroy the one's free will to voluntary express one's self in a meaningful "two-way' exchange.
The independence to express one's self is unique to each individual jiva-soul's character.
In Bhagavad Gita As It Is Krsna makes the promise that once returning to Vaikuntha, the jiva-souls will never again fall down to the material creation however, the jiva-souls also have their choice too, and therefore can accept or reject Krsna's promise if they choose, otherwise there is no meaning to having free will Prabhupada has explained.
Although, as said above, over 90% of jiva-souls do choose to not fall down, but even then they can leave at anytime if they choose, otherwise again there is no meaning to having free will.
Srila Prabhupada explains above, at one time only that less than 10% of jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana can choose to leave and enter the material creation.
Srila Prabhupada has made it clear that if we do not have free will in both Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana to leave at anytime we choose, then we are no better than dead lifeless stone.
If Krsna denies the jiva-souls to again fall down from the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, then He is denying them their free will, making the jiva-souls no more than mindless puppets on a string controlled by the puppet master.
In other words, there must also be the free will to reject Krsna too otherwise loving voluntary exchanges with Krsna can never freely exist.
So Kṛṣṇa’s promise that the jiva-souls will never again fall down, is a two-way street meaning the jiva-souls are NOT obliged to accept Krsna's promise nor would Krsna force it.
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."
Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."
Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will, he can misuse it. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of knowing he is doing the wrong thing, he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada and Rene Descartes 1976)
Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one-way only, that is not independence that is force." (LA, California June 23, 1975)
Denying the jiva-souls their natural eternal constitutional right of self-expression and free will (freedom) is impersonalism.
If Krsna did force His will and forced the jiva-souls to love Him, then how can that be real genuine love as Prabhupada explains?
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is a reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)
Krsna does promise in Bhagavad Gita that the jiva-souls will never again fall down to the material creation once returning to Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.
But Krsna always allows the jiva-souls their right to accept or reject that promise too.
Even with Krsna's promise there MUST be a choice otherwise by forcing the jiva-souls to remain in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana, can be seen as interfering with the free will, independence and individual choices of the jiva-souls.
This is because the jiva-souls are entitled to making their own decisions too without being dictated too even by Krsna, otherwise what is the point of having free will?
The fact is Krsna will never make that decision for the jiva-souls; they must voluntarily choose for themselves; otherwise their free will is violated.
There can be no question of love if the jiva-souls have no right to choose for themselves.
Syamasundara - "But can we predict that returning back home back to Godhead will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison some end up back there?''
Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no such thing as permanent because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time."
Syamasundara - "And some come back?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this; you can do that. All right. Whatever you like."
Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"
Srila Prabhupada - "He has got independence; therefore, there is always the possibility he can misuse his independence, he can fall again if he wants; that choice is always there. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean it is permanent because he can again come back however, the general law is not to come back, but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of having independence and free will? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally, he should not go there again." (Discussions with Syamasundara and Henri Bergson 1976)
The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities is a two-arm form like Krsna's Body.
Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shBGape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"
Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."
Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body.
That is spiritual life. There is no restriction.
If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch1 text 1-4 - Melb, May 20, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - "Actually, every living entity is eternally uncontaminated, although he may be in the material touch. This is the version of the Vedas. Asanga ayam purusha-the living entity is uncontaminated. Just like when there is a drop of oil in water, you can immediately distinguish the oil from the water, and the water never mixes with the oil. Similarly, a living entity, although in material contact, is always distinct from the matter." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
Srila Prabhupada - "We are not fallen, we cannot be fallen but have simply created a situation because we wanted to imitate Krsna, so Krsna has given an opportunity: ‘All right. Imitate’. So this situation, our contact with matter, is just like dream. Actually, we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we can break this material connection (dream) at any moment, as soon as we come to the point of Krsna conscious. We can simply give up that illusory condition at any moment. At any moment. This is the position. We are not fallen. We are only thinking fallen we are fallen. So we have to give up this nonsense thinking. Then we are liberated." (SB lecture in Tokyo, April 20, 1972)
Srila Prabhupada - "Eternally conditioned means we do not know when we have been conditioned like this. It is not possible to trace out the history, many, many, many, many Brahma’s lives are happening, not only one." (Lecture in NY City, Jan 9, 1967)
Srila Prabhupada - "There is history, but that is not possible to trace out. Therefore, it is said anadi . . . Anadi means the creation. Creation before creation I contaminated this desire." (SB lecture in Bombay, Jan 1, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - "It is impossible to trace out our history. Vaisnava poets say, therefore, anadi karma-phale, which means that these actions and reactions of one’s activity cannot be traced, for they may even continue from the last millennium of Brahma’s birth to the next millenium." (SB Canto 3, Ch 31 text 44, Aug 1974).
Devotee - "In the spiritual sky, when the living entity is in his pure state of consciousness, does something act upon him to make him illusioned at that point, also?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, just like Jaya-Vijaya. They committed offense, there is possibility even if you are in Vaikuntha, you can fall down, what to speak of this material world." (BG, lecture of July 4, 1974)
It is not Maya and her material energy causing the jiva-souls to leave or fall down from Vaikuntha because there is no material nature (Maya) in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana that forces the jiva-soul to leave Krsna, Maya's temptation and material energy do not exist in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana however, "free will" does eternally exist there.
Srila Prabhupada - "The next question about the living entities falling down in this material world are not from the impersonal brahman. Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence they are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness. So long one can maintain pure Krsna consciousness; he does not fallen down. As soon as he becomes out of Krsna consciousness, immediately he is fallen down." (Letter to, Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "As living spiritual souls, we are all originally Krsna conscious entities, but due to our association with matter from time immemorial, our consciousness has now become polluted by the material atmosphere." (Hare Krsna 'Happening record album' NY City Dec 1966)*×*
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