The wonderful workings of Maha-Visnu's dreaming material creation.

All material bodily vessels in the material creation occupied by the jiva-souls originate from the dreams of Maha-Visnu and belong to Him.

Such material bodily containers are the alternative for those jiva-souls (marginal living entities) who choose to reject serving Krsna in Goloka-Vrindavana or Visnu on the Vaikuntha planets and leave the Spiritual world.

Therefore, such material bodily vessels in the material creation are provided by Maha-Visnu life after life to those individual jiva-souls who choose to no longer stay in the spiritual world because of their rejection of Krsna and Visnu.

No individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from Maha-Visnu, they only move to His dreams, then "hire" a material bodily vessel from Him according to their desires for their journey throughout the material creation.

There are unlimited material bodily vessels available to those individual jiva-souls who have chosen to leave the spiritual world, that places them in Maha-Visnu's temporary material creation.

The jiva-souls also never originated from the impersonal (inactive) Brahmajyoti either as some foolishly  believe because it is already a fallen condition the jiva-souls have already fallen too.

The impersonalists have a limited understanding of what is really going on, yes, the material energy is "all-one" because when material bodily vessels decay and break down into dead material matter and energy, they become one with the material energy.

But NOT the living "spiritual energy" that is made up of unlimited direct expansions of Krsna called the Visnu-tattva living entities, and unlimited separated more independent marginal living entities called  jiva-tattva liviing beings, also known as jiva-souls.

Both Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva (jiva-souls) are eternal living entities without beginning or end. 

The Bhagavad Gita As It Is 1983 edition Chapter 2 text 20 expains the position of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls)-

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20 "correct" 1983 edition)

This means the jiva-souls were NEVER created by Krsna or Visnu, even though they are always maintained by the Lord.

It is important to understand there is no such thing as new jiva-souls being created because they have ALWAYS existed and were NEVER created as Bhagavad Gita further explains.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2, Verse 12

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG 2.12)

The material energy (matter) becomes active and manfests in different forms in the material creation ONLY when possessed by an individual jiva-soul (anti-matter or life)

"Material energy" is therefore "all-one" when each material body breaks down, decomposes and merges back into one "oneness" of the "material" nature.

But the life force that moves matter is NOT all one as explained above, life is eternal in two categories, Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva.  

The individual jiva-souls ALWAYS remain separateindependent beings with their own personality separate from Krsna's Personality. 

The jiva-souls are NOT matter, meaning they are NOT the material bodily vessels they occupy. 

The jiva-souls are the passengers in the material bodily vessels they possess (both subtle and gross material coverings) and uses such a material body as a vehicle to get around in while in the material creation.

So that process of "matter" decomposing (the death of the material body) only causes it to merge back into the "oneness of material energy." 

However, matter has nothing to do with the eternal jiva-souls (anti-matter).

Even this can be confusing in a number of ways to many because the spiritual energy the jiva-soul are, is anti-matter that is beyond decomposition or death.

The jiva-souls are eternal as mentioned above explained in Bhagavad Gita As It Is "1983 correct edition." 

Spiritual individual "persons" (jiva-souls) whom anti-matter is, are nothing like material energy that is temporary, subject to constant decline, decay, dissolution and merging and re-merging back and forth into the oneness of the lifeless material energy.

Also because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, He is both everything and separate from everything. 

Krsna is similtaneously one with everything and at the same time an individual PERSON.

Lord Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu called this teachings "Achintya Bhada Abhada tattva" which means inconceivable oneness and difference. 

This means spiritual energy is only ONE personality when in relation to Krsna and His Visnu-tattva expansions, but is NOT one person when referring to the marginal living entities (jiva-souls), even though everything is Krsna energy.

Yes, this knowledge is inconceivable. 

From a basic point of view, the jiva-souls never lose their individual personality, identity and eternal spiritual bodily form in relation to Krsna and His Visnu-tattva expansions. 

The jiva-souls also never lose their spiritual identity mentioned above when the outer covering or material body breaks down and decays (dies) and merges back into the oneness of material energy. 

The jiva-soul NEVER dies but only vacates a material bodily vessels when it wear our and ceases to function (known as the death of the material body)

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities), just like Krsna, were never created, each jiva-soul has no origin because they were never created as Chapter 2 text 12 and text 20 of Bhagavad Gita As It Is reveals above.

Even though they are perpetually maintained by Krsna who is the cause of ALL causes. 

We must never forget this fact.

Krsna and the jiva-souls are like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays, that cannot exist without each other (although Krsna can be totally independent when ever He likes)

The point is Krsna and the individual jiva-souls have ALWAYS existed and were never created as said above and further emphasised here-

Bhagavad Gita As It Is, Ch 2 text 12-

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these Kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG Ch 2 text 12)

The real eternal home of the jiva-souls is always in either the Vaikuntha planets of Lord Visnu, or Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavana, and not living in the temporary mundane material creation, or merged inactively (dormant) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

From Maha-Visnu's point of view, the movement through material time's "past, present and future," is  the pathway in the material  creation that unlimited individual jiva-souls move through.

Where as in the spiritual worlds time is different, there is only the "eternal presence" of Krsna and Visnu.

Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes- 

"This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83)

Srila Prabhupada – "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)

Srila Prabhupada – "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972 lecture on SB Canto 4 Ch 29)

Srila Prabhupada – "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)

All material bodily vessels are chosen from Maha-Visnu's dreams, His collection of material bodily vessels from His permanent volt of dreams are lived out by the visiting jiva-souls in linear time.

This means all material bodily vessels are like costumes that are "hired" from the Costume shop owner Maha-Visnu.

All of the jiva-soul's desires,  choices and expressions of their free will are factored in before the jiva-soul is given a particular material bodily vessel to enter the material creation. 

Free will only exists partially in the human form of life (4 hundred thousand human species) and none existant in all other 8 million species of material life.

Maha-Visnu sees all, beginning, middle and end of all material bodily vessels.

This is because He is God and knows past, present and future.

As said above, all material bodily vessels are the dreams of Maha-Visnu and always remain His property.

In the spiritual planets the jiva-souls ARE their bodily form and therefore no longer possess an outer material decaying bodily vessel or covering.

All material bodily vessels or bodily containers, are part and parcel of the fabric of material energies space/time that governs the temporary material creation and takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky (matter)

The other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky are the permanent eternally youthful spiritual worlds (anti-matter) eternally existing in the "eternal presence" beyond the decaying influence of past, present and future that only exists in the material creation.

In the material creation's bodily vessels, the jiva-souls are there as the passengers who are riding within the material energies fabric of material bodily vessels. 

Each material body is made of material energy that the jiva-souls become covered by in the material creation. 

The individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are the passengers in the material body made of material energy.

Material energies bodily vessels are dead matter when they are no longer held together by form possessed by an individual jiva-soul (anti-matter).

Ksirodakashayi Visnu (Paramatma) accompanies all jiva-souls who enter the material creation and sits with each jiva-soul in the heart area of the material bodily vessel as Supersoul and also enters into every atom in the material creation.  

Wherever their is Ksirodakashayi Visnu, who is also known as Paramatma or Super Soul, there is the jiva-tattva or individual jiva-soul. 

The difference between anti-matter (active spiritual living entities) and the dead matter in the material creation-

1 - Anti-matter is active living entities.

2 - Matter is dormant or inactive "living entities" because Visnu is in the atom and a jiva-soul is always in the company of Visnu who is the Supersoul behind all things.

Anti-matter is simply active spiritual energy and matter is inactive spiritual energy.

With dead matter like stone, the consciousness of the jiva-souls as that stone are completely dormant, which means almost dead (totally inactive) hence dead matter.  

The only difference between matter, where the jiva-souls are dormant and inactive like the impersonal Brahmajyoti, and anti-matter, is the jiva-souls are fully active and aware of their full spiritual potential in their natural environment as anti-matter.

Everything spiritual is based on personalism known as anti-matter that is made up of an variety of living entities (from different Visnu-tattva expansions to Lord Siva) including an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls. 

The impersonal Brahmajyoti is also where anti-matter (jiva-souls) are hovering in an dormant inactive state and therefore in an lifeless existence.

1/4 of the Spiritual Sky is like this known as matter.

3/4 of the Spiritual Sky is anti-matter or Spiritually active.

Dead matter (the material atom) is dormant spiritual energy (life) or a jiva-souls present which means Visnu is also in the material atom. 

The jiva-soul in the material atom is inactive and almost dead Prabhupada explains. 

The natural full potential of the jiva-soul is to be fully active in the service of Krsna, such a reality is anti-matter Prabhupada explains in his Book "Easy Journey to Other Planets."

Revatīnandana - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva-souls there are also fallen souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

The jiva-soul's original position is in Goloka-Vrindavana from where they originated from and have the same bodily features as Krsna- 

sat,

cit, 

ananda, 

vigraha.

Which means-

Eternity, 

Knowledge, 

Bliss,

Form.

The jiva-souls have a perpetual spiritual bodily form just like Krsna's spiritual body.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is a two-arm form like Krsna's Body.

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. 

So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. 

Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. 

That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. 

If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, May 20, 1975)

The jiva-souls who have fallen to the material creation due to some offense, or who have chosen to enter the material creation, must "hire" their material bodily vessels from Maha-Visnu through His dreams.

Those same "dreams" of Maha-Visnu include the billions of material universes called Brahmandas that come from Maha-Visnu's breathing and from the pores on His skin.

All the material bodily vessels in the material creation belong to Maha-Visnu and must be purchased or "hired" from Him.

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding, one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966 NY City USA)

The rebellious jiva-souls enter the impermanent material creation, known as the "mahat-tattva" via the dreams of Maha-Visnu.

They do this because they have chosen to reject Visnu on the Vaikuntha planets (in an all reverence relationship), or Krsna in Goloka-Vrndavana (in a intimite personal relationship of lover, friend, etc).

It is important to understand the jiva-souls left the Kingdom of God not because of any material cause, (that cannot exist in Vaikuntha anyway) but because of "free will," or wanting to be a god instead of serving God, and therefore gave up their association with Visnu or Krsna.

One cannot stay in the Lord's eternal abode if they have chosen not to serve Him, therefore they enter the material creation, also run by Krsna via His Maha-Visnu expansion and His demigod servants, who builds the material worlds.

This is how we entered the material creation in an attempt to seek out our own dreams within the dreams of Maha-Visnu..*×*..